While I agree, The smoke was never read. It was lazy and being pushed. How a flash over was adverted escapes me. But then again the video is heavily edited
Americans are not brothers and sisters of us. They are inferiors, who have much to learn. They suck. We do not. This is how you extinguish a fire. Not by standing around doing nothing. But by actually doing something.
@ I hope so but I dont see them in use very often. I think police cars should have some too; they help tracking down suspects at night.
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@@Greylocks if you watch the youtube channels of Pompiers de Bruxelles or Brandweer Lunteren you'll see them used in every fire call. For what concerns the police maybe let suspects a chance to not get caught otherwise we'll very quickly end up in the post-apocalyptic movies scenarios ;-)
@ ah, yes. Most of the ones I see are in the USA or Canada where I live. The use of the thermal cameras is more rarely seen here. It does not mean they are not used, just that I do not see them used in videos that I watch. They are a precious tool to have.
Thats dutch society for you ;-) 'the best captains stand ashore'. But you are right, everyone is critical about this, but they would piss their pants if they actually did the - voluntary, 80% of the dutch fire department is not on a payroll - work these men are doing. But situations like this are rare, and there is something going on that we are not seeing. My best guess is the presence of asbestos.
@@ukrainica9121according to a different video of this incident there were lots of wooden pallets and plant bulbs present... those fires are highly combustible and usually left to burn themselves out in a controlled manner with the focus on saving the surrounding area/property from the fire...
Where can we see the pictures who took the photographers ? Thanks. Où pouvons-nous voir les photos prises par les photographes que nous voyons sur le site? Merci
A warehouse full of refrigerated rooms (whose walls are made of polyurethane foam), full with tens of thousands of flower bulbs packaged in plastic bags in wood boxes on plastic pallets. The fireman couldn't find out where the fire was located in all the smoke, until the whole warehouse was full of high temperature smoke and not to be saved anymore. They switched to Damage control mode, to save what can reasonably be saved.
is waarschijnlijk ook de bedoeling... pallet-branden laten ze vaak gecontroleerd uitbranden omdat je die met al het water in de wereld al moeilijk uit krijgt...
From a place of employment to a scrap yard ,officers in charge decided not to commit because something was going on in the factory that we couldn’t see ,if no risk to life why put your staff in a risky situation but explain that to the owners 🙈🇬🇧
want dat is altijd het geval? Er zal waarschijnlijk iets geweest zijn waardoor het verliep als het verliep. Ik beste gok is de aanwezigheid van asbest.
@@ukrainica9121Die Dämmung der großen Dächer ist Problem. Es brennt vor sich hin bis zum Flush-Over kijk Leerfilm af Brandweer ruclips.net/video/9ocxbuKkSmk/видео.htmlsi=ktwsiUCiyJOV7xNw
@@peterbruinenberg5739 dat is na het zien van de beelden ook mijn idee ik vermoed achterin het pand begonnen op een bepaald moment in het dak geslagen en dan telt eigen veiligheid eerst hoe graag je een pand ook wil redden
Ga jij daar maar dan eens staan, misschien moet je iets meer kennis hebben over brandontwikkeling om hier uitspraak over te doen. Er was meteen al erg groot opgeschaald en 4x dpu opgesteld voorhand. Soms dan kan je niet zo 123 bij de brand komen en moet je zo veel mogelijk defensief opstellen.
Wow! Lots of guys in uniform and helmets standing about, walking to and fro, milling around and having committee meetings in various constellations, while waiting for the whole building to become a sheet of flame.
It looks like the actual fire couldn't be located. And yes, lots of guys are standing around untill they can start working the fire. No point in getting people into danger if don't know where the danger is coming from.
Its what you prefer: The dutch approach is: What's the problem? How to solve it without spoiling energy/water and riscing lives? THINK BEFORE ACTING! This is not the US where they start running around and spoil energy in fighting fire in an already lost building iso protecting adjacent building.
75% of their firefighters are volunteers which I think means less cohesion and a smaller group of firefighters with experience. Overall they did a good job. No one was injured or killed. I like that they opened every door and made a plan for where to start fighting the fire. I like their methodical approach for firefighting and the helmets they use seem to be more practical than those of most fire departments here. The built in visors are a great idea and the helmet protects their head in a fall and from strikes by falling objects.
according to several other videos there were materials in the building (wooden pallets, plant bulbs etc) that won't be easily put out with all the water in the world... in the Netherlands, once it's known that such materials are present in the fire focus shifts to saving surrounding areas & buildings and let the fire burn itself out in a controlled manner (pulling down a building next to the fire to create a fire stop-line, thus saving the rest of the property, is a conscious choice made in such situations)....
WHAT kind of firefight was that...!!!???? WHY wasn't there a ventilation hole cut in the roof IMMEDIATELY...? WHY is everyone standing around waiting for the fire to GROW....??? What a cluster fuck.
Typical American. Hasn't a clue. We've seen American fire fighters running around like headless chickens. No one except the Americans make holes in roofs and smash every window in the building. American fire fighters philosophy make lots of hole so we can feed the fire with more oxygen.
Don't you think that the roof may likely have been of truss construction?
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Ventilation is a question once the fire is out, to remove the smoke. While there is still fire, adding ventilation only makes the fire even worse. When you can't locate the fire but the smoke is already everywhere at high temperature, just shut off everything you can and cool down what can be saved to avoid the fire spread more than necessary.
Just they are a lots of standing talking and talking they do there job but it's to late walking and walking standing and talking and talking weak 👎👎👎👎👎👎👎👎👎👎👎👎👎👎👎👎👎👎👎👎👎 they are waiting the intire building fires 👎👎👎👎👎
Well if you stand around long enough the fire WILL come to you ! Wish we could see OTHER views to see if there was any attempt to attack this fire and stop its advance because nothing was done on this side. And the Demo-Grapple operator was so gentle it was like he didn't want to offend the building. Oh BOY ! C----- F--- for shure !
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What is your evaluation of the materials on fire in the warehouse ? You know, in some cases there is just not any chance to put the fire down even with all the water of the world. In such industrial warehouses it does quickly become Damage Control mode : protect what can be saved and let the fire burn what can't be saved...
@ according to a video from a different fire brigade also present at this fire there were loads of wooden pallets and plant bulbs in the burning warehouse... those are usually left to burn themselves out in a controlled manner, with the focus on saving the surrounding area... the destruction of the next warehouse was to create a fire stop-line... (this was explained in the other video)...
@waltergeldof4923 Only the aerial work platform fights this very large fire. The rest of the firefighters just stare at the floor. Be active and lend a hand !!!!!!!!!
there are lots and lots of protocols that have to be followed... personal safety is most important, and certain types of fires are left to burn themselves out in a controlled manner, hence needing just the area on this side (and as per several other videos, plenty of capacity on the other side of the building)... judging from just 1 video is about the worst thing you can do...
The Dutch are great firefighters. Great job from your brothers and sisters here in America. We love you
While I agree, The smoke was never read. It was lazy and being pushed. How a flash over was adverted escapes me. But then again the video is heavily edited
If they're such great firefighters, then why has EVERY video I've seen so far result in a total loss?
Americans are not brothers and sisters of us. They are inferiors, who have much to learn. They suck. We do not. This is how you extinguish a fire. Not by standing around doing nothing. But by actually doing something.
@@keithweathersbee1 vhvhvgvgvgvgvg
BIG critics....
I'm sure You'll do much better in America.
From 🇨🇦
Mooie beelden!!!
Muchos bomberos paseándose al estilo americano...Luego el incendio se les fue,o sea, se lo comieron..
Tranquille les pompiers ☮️☮️☮️☮️😴😴!!
What impresses me is the preparation and speed for everything. They even use thermal scanners.
A thermal scanner is a basic tool even for the smallest fire truck
@ I hope so but I dont see them in use very often. I think police cars should have some too; they help tracking down suspects at night.
@@Greylocks if you watch the youtube channels of Pompiers de Bruxelles or Brandweer Lunteren you'll see them used in every fire call.
For what concerns the police maybe let suspects a chance to not get caught otherwise we'll very quickly end up in the post-apocalyptic movies scenarios ;-)
@ ah, yes. Most of the ones I see are in the USA or Canada where I live. The use of the thermal cameras is more rarely seen here. It does not mean they are not used, just that I do not see them used in videos that I watch.
They are a precious tool to have.
Mooi, had er ook al een NL alert van gekregen. Ga zo door!
Огромное очень хорошая дева дева я даже их тут❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤😢😢😢😅😊
❤
Waarom duurde het zo lang voordat er geblust kon worden ?
Men moet eerst zeker weten waar de brandhaard zich bevind..
Lots of "experts" in the comment section. They should work for the fire department.
Better not ! 😀
Thats dutch society for you ;-) 'the best captains stand ashore'. But you are right, everyone is critical about this, but they would piss their pants if they actually did the - voluntary, 80% of the dutch fire department is not on a payroll - work these men are doing. But situations like this are rare, and there is something going on that we are not seeing. My best guess is the presence of asbestos.
@@ukrainica9121according to a different video of this incident there were lots of wooden pallets and plant bulbs present... those fires are highly combustible and usually left to burn themselves out in a controlled manner with the focus on saving the surrounding area/property from the fire...
Незнам защо, но в началото нямаше голям пожар и може би тогава лесно щеше да го погасят но ...С една струя трудно стана.
Благодаря за видеото.
Waarom zijn die bollen de schuur niet uitgereden tijdens het wachten?
Wat dacht je van "EIGEN VEILIGHEID EERST" ???
Heel apart alles moet in de fik
Where can we see the pictures who took the photographers ? Thanks.
Où pouvons-nous voir les photos prises par les photographes que nous voyons sur le site? Merci
I think they are for evaluation of cause/insurance only.
Anyone know how long these guys are trained to stand around and watch the fire?
What was on fire?
A warehouse full of refrigerated rooms (whose walls are made of polyurethane foam), full with tens of thousands of flower bulbs packaged in plastic bags in wood boxes on plastic pallets. The fireman couldn't find out where the fire was located in all the smoke, until the whole warehouse was full of high temperature smoke and not to be saved anymore. They switched to Damage control mode, to save what can reasonably be saved.
Hoe dichtbij was jij
Met 1 waterstraaltje kom he niet zo ver 🧐
Weet iemand wat deze stijve pijpen zijn, om 13:40 ?
Veel mensen (brandweer) met hun handen in de zakken.
❤ Я хочу
Leuk dat het geblust is maar ik zou daarna deze brandweerlieden toch een partijtje aanklagen.
Pand brand volledig uit op deze manier
is waarschijnlijk ook de bedoeling... pallet-branden laten ze vaak gecontroleerd uitbranden omdat je die met al het water in de wereld al moeilijk uit krijgt...
Een vuurkolk om ongeveer 8:51
Blussen met zulke straaltjes is dweilen met 5 kranen open
From a place of employment to a scrap yard ,officers in charge decided not to commit because something was going on in the factory that we couldn’t see ,if no risk to life why put your staff in a risky situation but explain that to the owners 🙈🇬🇧
That's why one carries insurance.
de brandweer te veel regeltjes en overleg te weinig actie
want dat is altijd het geval? Er zal waarschijnlijk iets geweest zijn waardoor het verliep als het verliep. Ik beste gok is de aanwezigheid van asbest.
@@ukrainica9121Die Dämmung der großen Dächer ist Problem. Es brennt vor sich hin bis zum Flush-Over kijk Leerfilm af Brandweer
ruclips.net/video/9ocxbuKkSmk/видео.htmlsi=ktwsiUCiyJOV7xNw
van kleine binnen brand, naar twee door brand verwoeste hallen. en de brandweer stond er bij en keek er naar. tjonge tjonge wat een prutswerk!
ja he
Lijkt er meer op dat ze niet bij de brandhaard konden komen.
@@peterbruinenberg5739 dat is na het zien van de beelden ook mijn idee ik vermoed achterin het pand begonnen op een bepaald moment in het dak geslagen en dan telt eigen veiligheid eerst hoe graag je een pand ook wil redden
Ga jij daar maar dan eens staan, misschien moet je iets meer kennis hebben over brandontwikkeling om hier uitspraak over te doen. Er was meteen al erg groot opgeschaald en 4x dpu opgesteld voorhand. Soms dan kan je niet zo 123 bij de brand komen en moet je zo veel mogelijk defensief opstellen.
@@woutrnick4397 Logisch besluit, aangezien je brandoppervlak...2.0 opleding.
1 klein pis straaltje water
PT UrAqq ko
Wow! Lots of guys in uniform and helmets standing about, walking to and fro, milling around and having committee meetings in various constellations, while waiting for the whole building to become a sheet of flame.
It looks like the actual fire couldn't be located. And yes, lots of guys are standing around untill they can start working the fire. No point in getting people into danger if don't know where the danger is coming from.
Its what you prefer:
The dutch approach is: What's the problem? How to solve it without spoiling energy/water and riscing lives? THINK BEFORE ACTING!
This is not the US where they start running around and spoil energy in fighting fire in an already lost building iso protecting adjacent building.
@@MrRCGNL Oh come on now...quit barking. You firemen like to eat your own. What the hell is wrong with you? Are you are nuts?
75% of their firefighters are volunteers which I think means less cohesion and a smaller group of firefighters with experience. Overall they did a good job. No one was injured or killed. I like that they opened every door and made a plan for where to start fighting the fire. I like their methodical approach for firefighting and the helmets they use seem to be more practical than those of most fire departments here. The built in visors are a great idea and the helmet protects their head in a fall and from strikes by falling objects.
according to several other videos there were materials in the building (wooden pallets, plant bulbs etc) that won't be easily put out with all the water in the world... in the Netherlands, once it's known that such materials are present in the fire focus shifts to saving surrounding areas & buildings and let the fire burn itself out in a controlled manner (pulling down a building next to the fire to create a fire stop-line, thus saving the rest of the property, is a conscious choice made in such situations)....
strange fire fighting , I thought they would have moved out some product while waiting for ? And the it gets away on them ....hmm
Snap van deze strategie niets……….
1 hoogwerker voor zon brand
Ik denk het moest in de brand
Het valt vies tegen hoeveel ladderwagens/hoogwerkers er zijn
@@wilcoschagen9748 Op 12 kilometer van waar ik woon hebben we 2 Hoogwerkers/ladderwagen en op een half uur rijden nog een hoogwerker
er stonden best wat brandweerwagens (en ook hoogwerkers) aan de andere kant van het gebouw...
WHAT kind of firefight was that...!!!???? WHY wasn't there a ventilation hole cut in the roof IMMEDIATELY...? WHY is everyone standing around waiting for the fire to GROW....??? What a cluster fuck.
Typical American. Hasn't a clue. We've seen American fire fighters running around like headless chickens. No one except the Americans make holes in roofs and smash every window in the building. American fire fighters philosophy make lots of hole so we can feed the fire with more oxygen.
They must have watched to many American fire videos.
Don't you think that the roof may likely have been of truss construction?
Ventilation is a question once the fire is out, to remove the smoke. While there is still fire, adding ventilation only makes the fire even worse. When you can't locate the fire but the smoke is already everywhere at high temperature, just shut off everything you can and cool down what can be saved to avoid the fire spread more than necessary.
@ LOL!
Mooi om te zien dat de brandweer al net zo wordt als onze bestuurders in dit land, veeeeeel overleg en weinig handelen……
Excellent !!
Just they are a lots of standing talking and talking they do there job but it's to late walking and walking standing and talking and talking weak 👎👎👎👎👎👎👎👎👎👎👎👎👎👎👎👎👎👎👎👎👎 they are waiting the intire building fires 👎👎👎👎👎
wurden die kartoffeln alle gerettet 😳🤔🧐
Auch viel zu wenig Wasserwerfer und Monitore
Well if you stand around long enough the fire WILL come to you ! Wish we could see OTHER views to see if there was any attempt to attack this fire and stop its advance because nothing was done on this side. And the Demo-Grapple operator was so gentle it was like he didn't want to offend the building. Oh BOY ! C----- F--- for shure !
What is your evaluation of the materials on fire in the warehouse ? You know, in some cases there is just not any chance to put the fire down even with all the water of the world. In such industrial warehouses it does quickly become Damage Control mode : protect what can be saved and let the fire burn what can't be saved...
@ according to a video from a different fire brigade also present at this fire there were loads of wooden pallets and plant bulbs in the burning warehouse... those are usually left to burn themselves out in a controlled manner, with the focus on saving the surrounding area... the destruction of the next warehouse was to create a fire stop-line... (this was explained in the other video)...
@waltergeldof4923
Only the aerial work platform fights this very large fire. The rest of the firefighters just stare at the floor. Be active and lend a hand !!!!!!!!!
there are lots and lots of protocols that have to be followed... personal safety is most important, and certain types of fires are left to burn themselves out in a controlled manner, hence needing just the area on this side (and as per several other videos, plenty of capacity on the other side of the building)... judging from just 1 video is about the worst thing you can do...
Mooie beelden!