Can you make a video on this detailed ... Like start with a web application using APIs and if there is a requirement for a mobile app, then we can easily go since we have developed APIs For this we need to decide on which point we need to go for app development and what type of architecture we need to use, that makes it easy to move to mobile app development I want to understand that..
You ducking say that but it’s because your ok downloading a 50mb once and waiting like 10 minutes for it to install but if the website take more then 3 seconds to load with the same functionality as that app you like nah it’s too long. Websites are constrained by this, if you would wait the same amount of time and then install a website as a pwa then you’d get the same functionality but unfortunately websites are thought of as different from an app even though they are the same
I mean, the information in the blog itself isn't false. The average person most likely uses less than half of all apps on their phone, on a daily basis.
Websites are not convenient for users logically following its better to have a mobile app for companies to promote their businesses. Its better start with startup for small entrepreneurs but then its must have to have an app if they want to grow bigger and attract a huge audience
@@sqfzerzefsdf well a majority of people still use 2 to 3 year old devices which lag greatly when you apply too much css on it. If you add less styling the app would just look dull and kinda like "atleast it works". On the other hand Mobile apps are much more optimised for those hardware and you don't have to worry about responsive design. You'll be missing a lot more customers if you don't make a mobile app that's optimised enough to run on most devices.
@@anasabubakar4125 thanks for taking the time to reply. I started kotlin 3 days ago and I've been enjoying it so far, I will look into Java and c# in the future
@@AcidiFy574 , the entire point of a mobile app is that you can pull out your small and easily portable phone to use it at any time. This video completely ignores while MOBILE apps were invented.
@@Shark-hn4mvThis proves that you don't know what web technologies can do because what you just described CAN be done using web technologies. You can install the app from the app store and open it from and icon
@@Vivi-xn9iz They have to do it because they want to be in touch with users. And they can't afford to create native apps or possibly don't have knowledge about native apps development.
@@gulabpatel7477 I know but people are thinking that web apps are only websites i'm sure they have knowledge about native apps development but it's much easier to make 1 web app to distribute to everyone rather than deal with compatibility issues
As a user I‘m sometimes annoyed by this approach - the amazon app is really just the website and it feels that way. Native iOS Apps have a different way of navigating than a website and when I open an App, I want to have this workflow. But of course starting with a website is a great way to start and then you can add specific custom items and workflows for the different operating systems with React native e.g.
Websites are not convenient for users logically following its better to have a mobile app for companies to promote their businesses. Its better start with startup for small entrepreneurs but then its must have to have an app if they want to grow bigger and attract a huge audience
Nah, it is really inconvenient to use web apps on mobile. They're great on PC but on mobile it's just inconvenient, an app is much better to use so makes sense to build one
Don't undervalue notifications! They can be good for reminders, music control, alarms, status updates and really improve the retention rate of your app.
No need to explain. Notification is a very important thing itself. Without it we may lose almost 50% of the smartness of mobile phones. So many heavy use cases are required to have notification. Strong notification delivery is also compulsory as the web doesn't provide this
One thing web can't do yet, at least as far as I'm aware, is Bluetooth stuff. If you've got some specialty equipment there's no going around an app. Plus I can do a webapp and a normal app with flutter so I get the best of both worlds.
I can't track user's live geolocation with a web application unless it's instance is running in focus and the phone is unlocked. So nope, you should build native apps, as long as you must do so.
It's not about developer flexibility but the comfort of the user. With more smooth UI, users tend to like mobile apps for intense use. Such as chat or video streaming etc.
People, try FLUTTER and you will love it. Engineers: please make more FLUTTER PACKAGES so that it would become the killer multi platform framework of our age. Flutter stands for F uck yeah it’s the future!
Your title isn't entirely correct. For a business it's true they need to evaluate whether a native mobile app would serve them. But what about the developers?
I am using react native for building video calling app. Gotta say that react native is not the best to do it. It doesn't give performance like other languages. And also Webrtc library is missing lots of features which is included in react JS. Only advantage is that we can develop on both platform
@@proNOOBIE_ That's an SDK. I don't know about Agora that much. Even though they will be using some kind of Webrtc. For mobile it will probably react native webtc. The normal web / desk SDK with Webrtc adapter doesn't play nicely with mobile platforms. And the mobile version might be missing a lot of things . For example stun switching since we don't get rtcrtpsender on mobile version
@@proNOOBIE_ Also I am not using third party SDK for this since it will limit the flexibility and features. Plus my company wants to make an SDK of their own
That's only an advantage if you have experience in webdev. If you are proficient with Java it'll be easier to write native android apps then go through some weird library to get a website (I'm neither so sorry if there's a very obvious solution)
It's not about just, creating APPs. We need professionals to maintain, to fix, to improve it. Like Daft punks say; Work it Make it Do it Makes us ( it ) Harder Better Faster Stronger
There are many things around this. It's just I don't do mobile applications. 1. Mobile compatibility 2. Notifications 3. User friendliness 4. Type of applications 5. Application Wright Many more...
don't worry man this doni is saying true things but andriod development will never die, it will if android dies but nevertheless if you master react native you can easily master another language or api cause you will learn core programming language from what you're doing rn, keep learning it will be of worth!
@@Shalinity I use both all the time they are the same if anything its super easy to transfer your skills. TBH native apps are still really useful the mobile browser isn't ready for rendering heavy graphics just yet. This is why native apps are way better.
Oh right, cuz we all want our apps to load forever under the weight of numerous poorly optimized JavaScript frameworks. Boo-hoo, poor software engineers don’t wanna learn to build good software, so everyone should suffer. This is what software development has become. First we saw language abstractization. Who needs these pointers and memory management, ew, too hard. Better wrap every element and even every operator into a chain of classes! Now that’s fast - to develop, but not to run. And voilà, now everyone builds slow sh*tware prone to memory leaks. Now we see this f*cking tendency to build everything on the web. And who knows what next.
I have to agree with this one WebApps are more lightweight than mobile application. WebApps are faster and more efficient. So you're right 👍 but creating a mobile application is also good to learn.
@@codegambit2507 haha WebApps are faster maybe internet troubles is the problem, but web Apps are faster because on a mobile app the more the updates extra dependencies are being added to the app so this means less storage on the user's phone but websites and WebApps access files and other metadata with ease
Videos like this tends to discourage people in exploring and doing thing hence video's with the title like "why you should'nt learn" is using social media influencers to catch more people.
Long term this is a shot in the foot, tbh. PWAs consistently ranks lower when packed and distributed in the mobile stores, users feel the clunky approach. The company I work for went from something like 3 stars in Play Store to 4.8 by just migrating their main screens to Flutter. It's like night and day. And the complaining we receive nowadays are mostly about the parts of the app that are still rendering the pwa through a WebView. The change was so big they're planning to kill all PWAs code and their Swift codebase and unify everything into Flutter.
The hardest part for web apps is hosting, while you can put an app on the app store, that everyone can download, a web app must be hosted and if you chose a reliable web hosting provider, this can be very expensive and prone to overcharge if you mess up things...
The real reason is that with web development you can develop for web with the best UI tech and easily port to mobile using technologies like capacitor.
Considering you said you’ll release a video on why you also should build an app shows you know both pros and cons on it so I won’t judge this too much. 😅 cause it’s true everything is on web now but everyone is on their phone 24/7 everything being run on apps. Plus mobile development is very niche thus a good place to getting a good place for getting jobs 🎉
Video will come for why you SHOULD build an app :) so don’t think I hate you
Can you make a video on this detailed ...
Like start with a web application using APIs and if there is a requirement for a mobile app, then we can easily go since we have developed APIs
For this we need to decide on which point we need to go for app development and what type of architecture we need to use, that makes it easy to move to mobile app development
I want to understand that..
Like iOS push notifications 😀
@@shanmukhapatil7131 you don't need capable enough to ask a question correctly. I suggest working on that first and then programming. Good luck !
@@sebastianzdroana7834 okay bro
@@sebastianzdroana7834 updated brother, hope you can now understand what i am trying to say
Lewis the type of person to use WhatsApp web on his phone 💀
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actually web apps are slower and janky sometimes. For products I usually use, I prefer downloading the app.
True websites are slower on my phone and its boring
Nice answer
Only true for nartive apps and not for apps that just hosts the web code
You ducking say that but it’s because your ok downloading a 50mb once and waiting like 10 minutes for it to install but if the website take more then 3 seconds to load with the same functionality as that app you like nah it’s too long. Websites are constrained by this, if you would wait the same amount of time and then install a website as a pwa then you’d get the same functionality but unfortunately websites are thought of as different from an app even though they are the same
@@sc76399 Well websites are inherently made for quick access whereas apps are made for reliable and regular access
"research" - shows some nameless blog post.
Just for spec topic so its really not for everyone 🤷🏻.
He probably automatically create these videos with stock photos with sone kind of py bot, so there will be things that don’t make sense
@@AleOnRUclips no?
I mean, the information in the blog itself isn't false. The average person most likely uses less than half of all apps on their phone, on a daily basis.
@@_Nonines most likely doesn't count as a statistic.
On the next episode “This is why you shouldnt breathe”
Threatening
scary
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Research
only 25% of the population breathes
Source - Trust me bro!
Hes on about nothing lol how is he going to store data locally without an app, not everyone wants to use the internet connection for everything
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@@nesletchimaew9209web is best
@@nesletchimaew9209you can probably do web apps that store things locally. like syncthing
@@nesletchimaew9209 no way you don’t know how to store data locally, cookies exist for a reason
Imagine someone really believes in this, lol. Mobiledev won't die soon.
Websites are not convenient for users logically following its better to have a mobile app for companies to promote their businesses. Its better start with startup for small entrepreneurs but then its must have to have an app if they want to grow bigger and attract a huge audience
@@Madikon07 true!
@@Madikon07 isn't that what he said tho? Like building a todo app is redundant. But something for ur company is kinda expected..
@Westerner please explain why you think that because I hardly ever download any app I can access on the web
@@sqfzerzefsdf well a majority of people still use 2 to 3 year old devices which lag greatly when you apply too much css on it.
If you add less styling the app would just look dull and kinda like "atleast it works".
On the other hand Mobile apps are much more optimised for those hardware and you don't have to worry about responsive design.
You'll be missing a lot more customers if you don't make a mobile app that's optimised enough to run on most devices.
Please stop this kind of clickbait.
Exactly
I am a self employed mobile app developer. This advice is hilarious.
Which tech stack would you suggest learning please?
@@EUU100 it depends on the language you know. i use java/Kotlin for native android and C# for ios and windows
but i prefer C# since you can use Unity to develop awesome mobile games and 3D apps
@@anasabubakar4125 thanks for taking the time to reply. I started kotlin 3 days ago and I've been enjoying it so far, I will look into Java and c# in the future
@@EUU100 swift and Kotlin
Tell me you're a web dev without telling me you're a web dev
All phone apps are glorified web apps
@@AcidiFy574ok I believe you my child.
@@AcidiFy574 , the entire point of a mobile app is that you can pull out your small and easily portable phone to use it at any time. This video completely ignores while MOBILE apps were invented.
@@Shark-hn4mvThis proves that you don't know what web technologies can do because what you just described CAN be done using web technologies. You can install the app from the app store and open it from and icon
Noted but still gonna make one.
That's a open threat
Lol
Did u make one
lol that was mean 😂
Lewis the type of person to order food through the browser on his phone 💀
It's actually not bad. Infact I'd argue food apps are useless because they work well as a just a website.
Isn't it better to order food through the website. Like just to order food why would u install an app and waste ur storage.
@@adithya8067 okay bro, always use web and save everything on cloud for not using storage.
@@kayraeren2786 ok 👍
the weird part here is. some apps are customized browser on the phone. It is just inside the app.
I would develop a mobile app just to avoid Javascript
As android developer, i am offended 😂
How mobile apps were UI design?
Like webs are designed by css, so how java do that?
same bro 🤣
@@ganeshmk2652 java/kotlin using xml,
@@ganeshmk2652 java isn't popular in android development anymore its kotlin
@@JoeMemes Still used and the two can be jointed.. also it’s better for starters.
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Developers prefer web apps, non-developers prefer mobile apps. Unless your target are developers, mobile apps are the way to go.
People basically like to open a software rather than search everytime
No need to search or open a browser. PWA
@@mgr1282 pwa is shit
a lot of apps/softwares nowadays are just web browser displaying a website.
@@Vivi-xn9iz They have to do it because they want to be in touch with users. And they can't afford to create native apps or possibly don't have knowledge about native apps development.
@@gulabpatel7477 I know but people are thinking that web apps are only websites
i'm sure they have knowledge about native apps development but it's much easier to make 1 web app to distribute to everyone rather than deal with compatibility issues
As a user I‘m sometimes annoyed by this approach - the amazon app is really just the website and it feels that way. Native iOS Apps have a different way of navigating than a website and when I open an App, I want to have this workflow. But of course starting with a website is a great way to start and then you can add specific custom items and workflows for the different operating systems with React native e.g.
As an android Amazon user. I like the app better than going to the web browser and doing it. But idk might just be me
Well… why tf would they make the app different from the website 😂😂
@@-keiskx1774 why would they then create an app if you could just go on the web?
@@simonkraemer3725 the app feels fine for me on iOS, what are you talking about?
You can achieve a near native feel with PWA’s if you’re skilled enough.
Ah yes, let me just take my laptop to the gym to listen to music on RUclips.
Ever heard of progressive web apps?
Beautiful/stable interfaces also? I find webapps look and act crappy on my phone. It may be just the case for the apps I came across.
Well it depends on whether or not the website considered actually supporting mobile web usage
Websites are not convenient for users logically following its better to have a mobile app for companies to promote their businesses. Its better start with startup for small entrepreneurs but then its must have to have an app if they want to grow bigger and attract a huge audience
As a wise man once said:
"Do not develop his app Jerry"
I don't think that man is very wise hahaha
Nah, it is really inconvenient to use web apps on mobile. They're great on PC but on mobile it's just inconvenient, an app is much better to use so makes sense to build one
The entire point of mobile apps is that they're mobile and can be pulled out anywhere at any time.
I just can't imagine how many mobile dev students got demotivated and lost their interest in android devlopment by this video
A random guy on RUclips should not be able to demotivate them. Also, it doesn't say do not learn mobile development. 😊😊
Gotta love those calculator Apps that need 200 MB of RAM to run.
You can't access file system freely in the web
Stop demotivating and fear mongering.
What you are suggesting is right, but only from a developer's perspective, from a client's perspective, achieving the best user experience is a must.
Bro I’m trying so hard for months now to be an android app dev and this just made me shit my pants…
Hhhhhhhh i feel u bro
🤣 You are good dude!! Android devs is a high in demand industry.
Just stick one thing!
@@CodingWithLewis good thing then because my future depends on it 😅🤣
I am into flutter and i shit my pants too
Don't undervalue notifications! They can be good for reminders, music control, alarms, status updates and really improve the retention rate of your app.
No need to explain.
Notification is a very important thing itself. Without it we may lose almost 50% of the smartness of mobile phones. So many heavy use cases are required to have notification. Strong notification delivery is also compulsory as the web doesn't provide this
One thing web can't do yet, at least as far as I'm aware, is Bluetooth stuff. If you've got some specialty equipment there's no going around an app.
Plus I can do a webapp and a normal app with flutter so I get the best of both worlds.
Yep!
Hands down worst video you’ve posted yet !
I respect your opinion 🙏
Your completely forgetting brand loyalty and ease of use
Yes some apps can be developed as both web and mobile apps however the mobile version will deliver better quality and much better user experience
I WoUld jUst sTiCk tO tHe wEB
- some guy
Like a wise man once said, "JS can be used for everything, but its not like it should be"
I can't track user's live geolocation with a web application unless it's instance is running in focus and the phone is unlocked. So nope, you should build native apps, as long as you must do so.
I will still develop mobile apps 👍
You are still living in the 2010 👀
Counter argument, i want to make apps for myself and gatekeep it and have a resume project
It's not about developer flexibility but the comfort of the user.
With more smooth UI, users tend to like mobile apps for intense use. Such as chat or video streaming etc.
People, try FLUTTER and you will love it. Engineers: please make more FLUTTER PACKAGES so that it would become the killer multi platform framework of our age. Flutter stands for F uck yeah it’s the future!
It's great but lacks backend resources
yeah mate +1 flutter is killer
@@trevortrevose9124 u can use firebase
Your title isn't entirely correct. For a business it's true they need to evaluate whether a native mobile app would serve them. But what about the developers?
Developers need to make the right decision that will save them on development time :) that being said, mobile apps still have lots of use cases!
Building an app for your business/personal use is valuable
As a mobile and web dev i completely disagree with this
I am using react native for building video calling app. Gotta say that react native is not the best to do it. It doesn't give performance like other languages. And also Webrtc library is missing lots of features which is included in react JS. Only advantage is that we can develop on both platform
Use agora
@@proNOOBIE_ That's an SDK. I don't know about Agora that much. Even though they will be using some kind of Webrtc. For mobile it will probably react native webtc. The normal web / desk SDK with Webrtc adapter doesn't play nicely with mobile platforms. And the mobile version might be missing a lot of things . For example stun switching since we don't get rtcrtpsender on mobile version
@@proNOOBIE_ Also I am not using third party SDK for this since it will limit the flexibility and features. Plus my company wants to make an SDK of their own
This is actually good news, because it makes cross-compatibility between platforms much easier.
you forget to mention that business apps are important and the majority of the app store shareholding
That's only an advantage if you have experience in webdev. If you are proficient with Java it'll be easier to write native android apps then go through some weird library to get a website (I'm neither so sorry if there's a very obvious solution)
That's a great point!
@@CodingWithLewis thx for knowledge
There's still a huge demand for native developers on the market and on average we earn more than frontend web developers...
That's very true :) I didn't say you shouldn't learn mobile apps!
The worst thing in history is those apps that are just a simple browser that will redirect you to the website of the application I freaking hate that
Yh but if you’re at an interview, you can pull out your app on your phone right there
Also ur website?
It's not about just, creating APPs. We need professionals to maintain, to fix, to improve it. Like Daft punks say;
Work it
Make it
Do it
Makes us ( it )
Harder
Better
Faster
Stronger
Bro i learnt flutter dart programming language used to develop native mobile apps. But now I am worried after this video 🥲
You shouldn't be. Do some research yourself
Dont worry. I prefer the apps over web browser. I will use your app. 😂😂🤞
In short, it is easier to use App instead of Web, As an experienced mobile app checker, I can confirm this 👍👍👍
And if your client thinks they need an app, I'd try to steer them into the idea of a PWA.
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Imagine people spending thousands of dollars on a new iPhone just to access website
Yup that's what phones are
This is a good point. I usually use the same few apps, buy websites I go to New ones constantly
There are many things around this. It's just I don't do mobile applications.
1. Mobile compatibility
2. Notifications
3. User friendliness
4. Type of applications
5. Application Wright
Many more...
So on android push notifications can be done?
Yes they can be!
🥺🥺🥺😓 and i just started learning react native
don't worry man this doni is saying true things but andriod development will never die, it will if android dies but nevertheless if you master react native you can easily master another language or api cause you will learn core programming language from what you're doing rn, keep learning it will be of worth!
Don't you think anything like that.
React Native is the most high in demand for cross platform applications or mobile applications in general
Just because theres tools to make a web app doesn’t mean that I shouldn’t make a mobile app
It is true it can be done on website, but the experiences not always be the same as native apps
I start learn english and i watch you speak, is can be improve my english thank you 😍
Crying in react native :)
same 😅
But if you know react native it’s very easy to transfer your skills to react?
@@dD-tn8tf hello ! Yes it's quite similar, but learning react will be better rather than learning react native first
@@Shalinity I use both all the time they are the same if anything its super easy to transfer your skills. TBH native apps are still really useful the mobile browser isn't ready for rendering heavy graphics just yet. This is why native apps are way better.
I would put a paper if asked me to work on hybrid
as soon as you need to store files locally you're done with that option as web application have a 2kb cap
“Figma” is a beast for wireframes
Oh right, cuz we all want our apps to load forever under the weight of numerous poorly optimized JavaScript frameworks. Boo-hoo, poor software engineers don’t wanna learn to build good software, so everyone should suffer. This is what software development has become. First we saw language abstractization. Who needs these pointers and memory management, ew, too hard. Better wrap every element and even every operator into a chain of classes! Now that’s fast - to develop, but not to run. And voilà, now everyone builds slow sh*tware prone to memory leaks. Now we see this f*cking tendency to build everything on the web. And who knows what next.
Salute Lewis… awesome content as always… 👋🏻🇮🇹
Honestly, whenever I get a notification through chrome I straight up block the site. Looks tacky in the android UI.
This is what tim cook was hoping for before. However, everyone still wanted downloadable apps.
Or just use Flutter and build it everywhere
Not ideal for web. Flutter + react for website
I'm with your thought 💭. yes web is way better than apps. most people don't know that.
Bro 😂😂 literally reality is opposite , people use all sorts of apps to handle the pdfs , edit images , listen songs , make payments , etc
Makes a good point but building one from scratch is good practice 👍
Yes, that's a bullshit.
I have to agree with this one WebApps are more lightweight than mobile application. WebApps are faster and more efficient. So you're right 👍 but creating a mobile application is also good to learn.
Agreed!
"Faster"? I don't think you know what you are talking about
@@codegambit2507 haha WebApps are faster maybe internet troubles is the problem, but web Apps are faster because on a mobile app the more the updates extra dependencies are being added to the app so this means less storage on the user's phone but websites and WebApps access files and other metadata with ease
@@CreativeTutorialsWeb I still don't think you know what you are talking about
@@codegambit2507 Yeah right okay then 😂
I just made my hello world mobile application and got this as recommendation, yt really does not want me to continue
Videos like this tends to discourage people in exploring and doing thing hence video's with the title like "why you should'nt learn" is using social media influencers to catch more people.
BS. Web is very far away from native experience. And it feels.
Not very far away at all, but it is behind still :)
@@CodingWithLewis Web browsers add another layer of software, and that can make for poor performance on low-end devices. Ask me how I know.
@@CodingWithLewis bro you don't know how to make native apps so you do this type of video correct??
Long term this is a shot in the foot, tbh.
PWAs consistently ranks lower when packed and distributed in the mobile stores, users feel the clunky approach. The company I work for went from something like 3 stars in Play Store to 4.8 by just migrating their main screens to Flutter. It's like night and day. And the complaining we receive nowadays are mostly about the parts of the app that are still rendering the pwa through a WebView.
The change was so big they're planning to kill all PWAs code and their Swift codebase and unify everything into Flutter.
Our prof prefer for us to make a mobile app than a web app for a thesis
you can't do normal animations on the web, it's 50% user-friendliness
Restaurant apps are usually better for online ordering than their website.
I’m never on the web I’m always on apps says it all
Screw this guy follow your dream pursue your visions you’ll be mad if you didn’t try.💯
Man, the only reason i'm searching this is because if i don't built one, I'll get a 0 on my assignment
Exactly!
I have hundreds apps installed but I've never used more then 4/5.
And notifications are blocked.
“This is why you shouldn’t eat”
Nah I want more customers for my product. Mobile apps are significantly more profitable
Agreed, very few companies have mobile apps. They’re there for when the company is already profitable
Nothing beats a mobile App that is programmed in a native language like Kotlin or Swift
Sipping my coffee, and going back to build MY APP 😂
Next one: Why should you live?
The hardest part for web apps is hosting, while you can put an app on the app store, that everyone can download, a web app must be hosted and if you chose a reliable web hosting provider, this can be very expensive and prone to overcharge if you mess up things...
Can't imagine having my PC without Android studio and Xcode installed
The real reason is that with web development you can develop for web with the best UI tech and easily port to mobile using technologies like capacitor.
i always search for something and this DUDE ALWAYSS "WHY YOU SHOULDN'T" like bruh leave me breath ffs
Considering you said you’ll release a video on why you also should build an app shows you know both pros and cons on it so I won’t judge this too much. 😅 cause it’s true everything is on web now but everyone is on their phone 24/7 everything being run on apps. Plus mobile development is very niche thus a good place to getting a good place for getting jobs 🎉