the reason it copies over empty space in your case is because you're using time selection. when using cursor tool, you might notice that it's a dynamic type of tool that changes behavior depending on where you hover it over. so if you hover at the upper half of the track, you get the crosshair cursor, which will select content (clips) when you press and drag with it. that's what you want to do in this case. lower half of the track gets you time selection cursor, which will select time segment including empty space. another thing to know is that for looping clips you can just drag side of a clip by lower part to start looping it (instead of extending the clip container itself), which I think is a much quicker gesture to do, and it works for multiple clip selection.
This video was really kool. I seen another vid you did for day 1 awhile back and now just seeing this one where you had more time with Bitwig. I will browse to see if you have more vids because the way you break things down is amazing. I’ve been using Bitwig myself for a few years now and to your point about stability, I use Bitwig for plugin reviews on my channel because I don’t know the nature of when it will crash. Peace of mind knowing I can just restart the plugin and not the entire daw is mind blowing. Bitwig is certainly fun to do production in as well. I’m sure you know by now but some frustrations you mentioned are fixed in later Bitwig updates, we have a compressor+ that serves many purpose such as the beloved glue compressor. The saturator+ combined with the compressor+ is closer to that drum bus in Ableton. There’s a few more “+” devices they added which is pretty sweet.
28:12 if you ctrl click (cmnd on mac i assume) the middle track it will deselected or selected from the time selection. Also the cursor switches between the time selection and pointer tool depending on where in the lane you hover it. On the top part of the lane, where the clips are colored black bitwig uses the pointer tool, below that it switches to the time selection tool. Control clicking allows you to make multiple selections without losing your current selection.
8:40 For any FL Studio users happening to watch this, automation isn't supported for importing however the new DAWProject format they're creating (if others adopt it) is what is meant to solve that for any DAW
18:08 Bitwig also have Auto Save function, you can find the Autosaves in the project folder, let's say an electrical issue happened, you can find a copy of the project one hour ago (cannot say the time exactly, since i rarely needed that, only when I needed to revert to to that older version).
about automation - yes, Bitwig is suddenly laging behind Ableton on that regard, when it comes to tooling for manipulating automation in place in arranger. I think Ableton added a lot of this after version 10. but at least you can enter specific values for points via inspector panel and do histogram analysis and manipulation of the selected points, including adding randomisation. another thing you can do is combining absolute automation with relative automations, which can be stored inside a clip, and do additive or multiplicative motion (like modulation), and you see result of automations working together. this could also be the way to add cycling shapes, using clip automation instead of track automation.
@@CREATEEDUCATEINSPIRE in the interim, you can use the draw tool to draw in automation. it is very smooth and once done, it leaves points for you to edit afterwards. Holding option (on mac - alt on PC) allows for you to draw straight lines based on the grid size
My favourite educational channel, from MPC to Bitwig it's all A+ with no fluff. It helps he's an actual recording professional not just a professional geartuber
My suggestion for drumbuss replacement is creating a Chain with the functionality you want, then assigning some remote controls and save it as a preset.
Capture Midi is a must have not provided by Bitwig. This Ableton feature records Midi in the background and is super useful if you play around with a controller, such as the Push, but you didn't record the session. The opportunity to recall Midi history is important. I hope Bitwig is listening. We also need video syncing. These two features are more important than more modulators, compressors, etc. We already have plenty.
Yeah people love that for whatever reason. I don't need Midi capture personally, I'll never use it. I have a supernatural memory, but that's irrelevant because I'm very direct about what I'm composing. It starts in my imagination and goes straight to my instrument. In other words, I already know what I'm going to do. That's how the few musicians I know irl work as well. Anyways, for the time being there are several MIDI capture software/plugins. Like MIDI cap, for example. About video, I don't know who the "we" is in your scenario but a few years ago the devs said they had no intention on adding support for video. Maybe they'll change their minds at some point. Just FYI. Again, it's something I'll never need so it's not important to me at all. Good luck though.
There's also a M4L device that does that same backround recording except with audio for up to 5minutes similarly to Capture Midi, it's called Tape Buffer by MAUV studio
23:18 Well you can also Ctrl+G that VST session and put it inside a container and save it with a name for future use as container. This way you will not lose any specific controller mappings. Bitwig already puts any VST inside a container as visually seen, and you notice there is little arrow on the upper corner, there you can put any other VST or Bitwig devices like filter, ladder filter, comb, reverb etc.
Yeah automation is sluggish like that but its meant to be used in the editor! Select your clip, hit A on your keyboard and in the 3ditor now youll have way more controll be able to zoom in and way more snappy
In Bitwig there are several ways to get to your destination. Some are faster and others are shorter😉 . Bitwig is modular. I switched from Ableton to Bitwig 5 years ago and have been 100% Bitwigger ever since...
The solution for the CTRL + D thing is just to click on the title of the first clip from the top, then shift + click (or ctrl for manual clip / audio select) the title of the last clip you want to duplicate, THEN hit the duplicate command
On your question, I think it's a Live hangover. In live you cannot just loop clips without consolidating. In Bitwig just put your cursor at the bottom of the end of the clip and drag - it will just loop the whole clip. No need to duplicate at all. At a later stage you can split the looped clips of course.
3:02 you can drag the shape of the clip you want (after drawing it) to the clip arranger with the time selection tool and even save it as a shape for use in other projects. You can add favorites as well so that you can find and use all your custom shapes faster!
any chance you could send me a video of this? even a phone video. Im trying this but not sure if I am doing it correctly. This sounds awesome. My email is info@createeducateinspire.com
you can hold Ctrl on a line between two points to bring them up together and create square shapes pretty easily, similarly sine waves and S shapes can be made by holding Alt on a line or on a center point that's between two others to create a S curve pretty easy. any automation that I'm doing more than once or twice in a track I'll likely just set up an LFO or Segments for it and autonate it On/Off when I need it. pretty quick imo.
If its a cyclic pattern, I will always modulate before I automate. It just gives me more control and loads more happy accidents. If I do need a specific automation path then I record the automation and edit. Now that can be time consuming but I enjoy it more.
@@Kaligulathegod you can also put automation directly into the clip. That way you have far more control over the event and it will also cycle properly when you copy and paste
Been using Bitwig since 1. I got it with free with something...cant remember what. Tried going to ableton because all of the tutorials on YT seem to be Ableton....but the workflow slowdown was crushing. These videos are great. Best thing about Bitwig is they will probs see this vid and add your sugestions next week. Have you seen that presonus and bitwig have teamed up to create a .daw file type to make sessions completely (well, it's new...) interchangable between DAWs? Lots of fun things happening from bitwig.
I would love beginner tutorials for Bitwig and Ableton. That mapping stuff is cool, but I just wish I knew more about it. Like how to do it and apply it. Thank you for the videos Stu. I look forward to new ones and I’m now a subscriber. I do own Bitwig and Ableton but it’s been months and I only opened them once. I really want to learn both, but I don’t where to start. I’m a songwriter type who’s just getting into electronic music.
Great suggestion. Im actually working on a multi-part production series for the channel, taking someone from zero to completed tracks, ready for release. Keep an eye out for episode 1 in the new weeks.
I don't know if you'd like that but I'm willing to spend an hour or two to teach you the ins and outs. I had experience in multiple daws but using bitwig exclusively for a couple years now. Free obviously, I just like to teach and spread the word.
Thanks for the offer. I would love to, can you shoot me an email at Info@createeducateinspire.com and we can plan something out. Looking forward to it.
-- Thanks for the tip about DrivenByMoss. I have a couple supported devices on his list and I'm eager to see what his extension opens up on my gear. -- Regarding your problem, I don't know about keyboard shortcuts, but dragging to select clips, then using CTRL+drag to copy them works cleanly. -- You mentioned missing Ableton's built-in "Glue Compressor" but didn't say what it was about Bitwig's built-in compressor that wasn't doing the trick for you. I've been using on everything, from beefing up wind instruments & percussion to master-track & buss glue. Seems to get the job done and is nicely transparent about it. Doesn't seem to support side-chaining, though, which is an odd oversight, IMO.
I'm completely mind blown that I can import Ableton sessions into Bitwig. Yes it's not perfect, but it's definitely useable for moving over incomplete projects and song ideas I've started in Ableton, do a few fix-ups and continue working on them in Bitwig. Thanks for the tip!
For the Bitwig Frustration, would holding CMD/CTRL down, selecting the desired clips to copy, then duplicating (cmd/ctrl - D) work? ~EDIT~ Tested this on my mac and it was CMD, not Shift. I can hold CMD down, select all clips I want to duplicate, and it skips over blank spaces.
NICE!! if I hold CMD I get a little minus and can deselect the empty space. I wonder if that can be set as the default, cause sometimes there's many empty spaces and im copy/pasting 20 tracks, half with empty spaces.
@@CREATEEDUCATEINSPIRE Odd, I don't see the minus. I'm on the 5.1 beta, but don't know if that's something different from current version or I'm just not seeing it. Hope this helps at least work around the frustration at least. Just discovered your channel and subscribed. Looking forward to more!
Why do you need to duplicate those clips? You can select the clips, turn on Looping in the Inspector on the left, then just drag the right edge of one of the selected clips to "copy" as many times as you want without copying and pasting, and without affecting tracks between the two clips. Then, if you need to edit a duplicated clip, just edit the original and all the copies get updated to match.
Hey. Polarity music just made a replacement for drum buss in bitwigs grid, just a couple of days ago. he A/B'd it and it pretty much does the same thing. He was linking it below his youtube video.
@@CREATEEDUCATEINSPIRE It never occured to me but Bitwig invites for a different approach with midi, for example to use the midi devices they have or sequencers in the grid, i usually draw my notes and use fx and sound design, i do not play the notes very often because i usually only make progressive house and techno styles. But midi note delay probably also depends on the buffer size of your asio driver?
I’m so excited about bitwig, presonus, and the future of the .dawproject standard. There’s nothing wrong with ableton, logic, or any of the other major daws, they all have their charms and difficulties, and having so many valid choices is wonderful. However, being unable to open your friends project files, and having to resort to sending stems, due to working with different daws has long been a pain point, and a non insignificant factor in daw choice for many. If this format gets adopted as a standard, collaborators won’t be penalized for enjoying a different workflow from their contemporaries.
Ohhh, wow. That Ableton duplicate functionality is really unexpected, I've never used it that way. It sort of makes sense, the selection changes after every duplicate event. But I've never known it does this, since I move tracks around before I do detailed editing that requires duplication.
@x-iso Another advantage of bitwig over ableton, in ableton there is only time selection for track, two selected clips in the same track cannot be copied or moved with another clip in the midle without it being excluded from the operation, I think its a very big mistake, reaper also has two types of selections, clips or time.
Simple solution for the end of the video problem. Move cursor around the clip you will see and + sign and draw it up or down to select those 2 clips and duplicate.. and one more way to do it select the clips while holding the Ctrl key.
If you want to use time selection to copy time from multiple tracks you can select time in one track and then ctrl click (Windows) in the other time regions of other tracks you want to copy. If you ctrl click again on a region it will remove it from the selection. This way you can have time selection spanning tracks with gaps in between thus excluding some tracks you don't want to copy.
Conceptually copying time selection is copying the sound of everything in that time selection. So the silence is also important for the sound and ignoring it would change the sound on duplicate or copy. But you can opt out of tracks you are not interested in by toggling the time selection region for that track as mentioned above.
@@CREATEEDUCATEINSPIRE Double comment from another post but, Other thoughts, I would custom a whole bunch of shortcuts, like re-do the zoom in and zoom out, you can make the timeline pointer 1 instead of 2, and make the 2 shortcut the default cross-hair pointer thing, etc and more. Also the large to short track height collapse is useful, I just shortcutted that. Turned the Daw look to more all--black, no midtones level, etc. You also have the draw pointer thing (pencil tool), it's shortcut number 3, or the keyboard key 3, you can draw automation that way, similar to Ableton's ctrl-b pencil tool etc. I think they could keep making Bitwig more advanced if they want to, it's quite barebones and simple especially with atmos features and video, like in Logic. I also add the time ruler as default, etc
I feel people think Bitwig is another more improved version of Ableton. Like they were trying to give ableton the finger because they didn't do what they wanted, I don't think that's actually the case. But I think Bitwig is designed for a different purpose. Ableton was meant for live performances. Everything is clean, and quick to grab and simple looking so it is easy to use when you're in front of 70 thousand people. Funny thing, was Ableton originally when it first came out was more for live performances, but they quickly realized how much people wanted to produce and perform. However, Ableton was made in 2001. Long ass time ago. Bitwig seems to be made for production rather than live performances and more focused on experimentation rather than just song writing. I think they made it because Ableton wasn't focused on the smaller group of technical musicians who wanted to get really nitty gritty. Ableton was more for song writers, bands, etc. Both can accomplish similar things, but both also were created for certain artists. That being said, get both and use them together if you can. It's a match made in heaven.
My wishlist for Bitwig is: - automation... please... - remove automation smoothing - slices added to sampler (without using drummachine) - contextual keybinds and for the love of god remove the popup browser and make the side browser useable, especially the "file" browser, which u cant search in
Wait until you start using the track view on midi it's so good! It lets you work on individual clips as one track and you start to compose things more efficiently
About your problem, i think it's better to use the drag copy function instead of CTRL-D, then you can make nice use of the operators too. Or you select the blocks with CTRL instead of selecting all 3 of the tracks.
Bitwig has the best support for Maschine controllers on the market. They feel "almost native" in Bitwig. So, anyone who uses a Maschine MK3, Mikro MK3 or Maschine+ should consider Bitwig over Ableton due to how well those controllers work there. Try a trial. Must be experienced to be appreciated. Most things are mapped 1:1, so the controls are very intuitive and it works the same way it would work in the Maschine 2 software. If using Bitwig, definitely prefer Maschine over MPC, barring other requirements or personal preferences. The best MIDI Controllers for Bitwig are those like the Oxygen Pro 49/61 which are Ableton Live Certified (Bitwig automatically switches to the Ableton Preset - the Bitwig Preset seems pretty worthless) on top of better on-device controls and a Note Repeat Engine, Rotary Knob for Session Navigation, and nice Firmware-based Theory Features. Novation Launcheky MK3 and SL-series work very well, as well, and are more "specifically-built" for these DAWs. Less flexible as a controller, though, and the Aftertouch is on the pads instead of the Keys (opposite of Oxygen Pro). Flawless Parameter Pickup for Knobs and Faders, color coded pads for Session View, etc. I just wish Bitwig had a better menu system. It has the worst feature discovery of any DAW that I've ever used because there is no menu to "overview" its functionality like almost every other DAW I've used has... It also has a pretty bad way of updating itself ON WINDOWS. Going from 5.1.8 to 5.1.9 creates a new installation in a different directory (as every install directory is versioned), and when you uninstall the old version, it breaks all of the file associations forcing you to Repair the new installation to fix it. I think the best way to update is to uninstall Bitwig and then re-install the new version. That should still carry over all of the settings (Content Directory, etc.). I will try that on a laptop later today. On macOS, this is less of an issue since you Drag-and-Drop the app to Applications and can choose to simply replace it, which avoids these issues by doing an in-place upgrade since the installations are not versioned (e.g. C:\Program Files\Bitwig Studio\Bitwig 5.1.8 vs. C:\Program Files\Bitwig Studio\Bitwig 5.1.9). Ableton Live does versioned installations, but it actually ports things like file associations over when installing a later version, so you can just uninstall the old version without having it break anything. Not sure why the Bitwig developers haven't figured this out yet. The software has been out for a while, and this is something they absolutely should have noticed during testing and worked to alleviate. Being able to double click a project file and open it in the relevant application is a basic thing people just expect to happen - even across application updates or upgrades. Both of these DAWs need a way to manage (and hide) individual plug-ins from the browser. It sucks when you have a few VST2-only plug-ins that you want to use, but enabling that format surfaces 40 redundant VST2 plug-ins (that also have VST3 versions that you'd always use over them) because they aren't auto-hidden, and there is no way to manually hide them (Studio One, Cubase, Reason, Samplitude Pro X, SONAR, Digital Performer, WaveLab, Sound Forge, Resolve, VEGAS, ACID, etc. all allow doing this).
They could definitely keep making Bitwig more advanced, it's like really simple right now and barebones in the timeline linear view and even some performance stuff
Tested your issue with duplicating clips. If you grab a clip from the top section, you will see a + icon. When grabbing from there and selecting multiple clips it won't override a clip from a track in-between the 2 selected clips. On the contrary, if you see the "I" icon (selecting bottom section of clip/track, it will duplicate everything, even empty spaces. Secondly, if you understand how drum buss works, it's easy to replicate using compression, saturation, and the resonator device. I attempted to recreate it myself and results were pretty decent.
* Bitwig has its own version of drumbus. I think it’s listed as an “FX layer” * Writing automation in Bitwig is a pain in the ass, I totally agree. I’ve heard it’s improved a bit in version 5.1 though
You can do a lot with Beat LFO, you can make a sidechain that way or use the audio sidechain modulator. You can also use it for dynamic eq and envelope eq
I will never miss anything from ableton : because I would not switch an entire DAW for couple minor features. I hear this everywhere, people using multiple DAW's for the sake of using multiple DAW's : why !? If I cannot do it in LIVE, I will simply not do it : It may be different for you since you work with musicians but holy s**t point me to a person that uses any DAW to it's maximum capabilities. No such person exists ! Imagine Vince Clarke or Chris Lowe having access to this in the 80's and gripe about missing features ....😁😁
Ableton is outdated. Ableton 12 is not becoming better, just fancy useless generative MIDI stuff, an overcrowded arranger window and browser where you have to edit the tags by yourself for millions of samples and VSTs
I tried the generative midi and it just was beep boop and not very musical. For me, working out the vibe and melody is one of the best parts of production. Learn music, don’t just slot machine the generate button and hope for something.
It's more involved than Live's, aka more time consuming to use for stuff that Live handles quicker imo, but it has some advantages creatively. That said, 5.1 beta dropped last Wednesday and they've added some sort of transient detection system that seemingly will make the task cake while also being a cool creative tool. I haven't tried it personally, I'm waiting until the official release. There's a couple vids on YT that touched on it, you can do a search if interested. Hopefully someone out there makes a more in depth video about it soon.
@EnervatedSociety got it thanks for the info. I literally got recommended his first video on bitwig by youtube yesterday so it's my first time hearing about bitwig ever and I'm highly interested, I can't lie, I use session view in ableton for my live sets so I need to know exactly how session view in bitwig works and I'm pretty sure it works the same probably better but more importantly the warping system has to be the same or better than ableton for me to really make try it out. Remixing samples like how I do in ableton and auto warp and being able to manipulate the sample with transients etc etc bitwig has to do that and more so hopefully that's the case. It's crazy how I'm just now discovering and hearing about bitwig, how long has it been around ? I've seen some internet fan boys on his other video bashing and hating on ableton as if there isn't room for everybody to exist, there's tons a daws out these days and they all have there pros and cons. Bitwig from what I've saw so far is they closest thing to ableton which mean they copied abletons system AND MADE IT BETTER "don't quote me on that yet" lol but these haters talk like bitwig is the king now and it's like come on dude, stop hating, they both can exist along with every other daw.
@@ob8719 I moved from Logic Pro, after a couple decades, to Live. That's lasted a few months because just like that dude Stu I moved to Bitwig after 1 day. Only I never looked back and It's my one and only DAW. It's more like an instrument with a DAW in it. The founder of Bitwig, Claes Johanson, used to work for Ableton so yeah, some things carried over and those things are obvious, but it's really it's own beast. It became usable, imo, around ver 2.2ish but it's been a work in progress ever since. It's not as fully featured as more mature DAW's but it's getting there. For me personally, it's now to the point that it's got everything I need to get the work done. Given your needs def demo it first. I'd wait until the release of 5.1 to see if the new detection system meets your needs because currently Live if def better on warping. I'd say Bitwig strongest point is sound design. I'd say it's the best, but I'm biased. It's modulation inception in there. One cool thing I'll mention is that Bitwig sandboxes plugins. So if a plugin crashes, it doesn't take the whole session with it. it crashes alone. You just start right back up and off you go.
I’m so excited about bitwig, presonus, and the future of the .dawproject standard. There’s nothing wrong with ableton, logic, or any of the other major daws, they all have their charms and difficulties, and having so many valid choices is wonderful. However, being unable to open your friends project files, and having to resort to sending stems, due to working with different daws has long been a pain point, and a non insignificant factor in daw choice for many. If this format gets adopted as a standard, collaborators won’t be penalized for enjoying a different workflow from their contemporaries.
the reason it copies over empty space in your case is because you're using time selection. when using cursor tool, you might notice that it's a dynamic type of tool that changes behavior depending on where you hover it over. so if you hover at the upper half of the track, you get the crosshair cursor, which will select content (clips) when you press and drag with it. that's what you want to do in this case. lower half of the track gets you time selection cursor, which will select time segment including empty space.
another thing to know is that for looping clips you can just drag side of a clip by lower part to start looping it (instead of extending the clip container itself), which I think is a much quicker gesture to do, and it works for multiple clip selection.
This video was really kool. I seen another vid you did for day 1 awhile back and now just seeing this one where you had more time with Bitwig. I will browse to see if you have more vids because the way you break things down is amazing. I’ve been using Bitwig myself for a few years now and to your point about stability, I use Bitwig for plugin reviews on my channel because I don’t know the nature of when it will crash. Peace of mind knowing I can just restart the plugin and not the entire daw is mind blowing. Bitwig is certainly fun to do production in as well.
I’m sure you know by now but some frustrations you mentioned are fixed in later Bitwig updates, we have a compressor+ that serves many purpose such as the beloved glue compressor. The saturator+ combined with the compressor+ is closer to that drum bus in Ableton. There’s a few more “+” devices they added which is pretty sweet.
Omg I didn't even know we could import Ableton projects! Yasssss :)
Its great cause I can take all my track breakdown templates and just open them in Bitwig.
28:12 if you ctrl click (cmnd on mac i assume) the middle track it will deselected or selected from the time selection. Also the cursor switches between the time selection and pointer tool depending on where in the lane you hover it. On the top part of the lane, where the clips are colored black bitwig uses the pointer tool, below that it switches to the time selection tool. Control clicking allows you to make multiple selections without losing your current selection.
8:40 For any FL Studio users happening to watch this, automation isn't supported for importing however the new DAWProject format they're creating (if others adopt it) is what is meant to solve that for any DAW
18:08 Bitwig also have Auto Save function, you can find the Autosaves in the project folder, let's say an electrical issue happened, you can find a copy of the project one hour ago (cannot say the time exactly, since i rarely needed that, only when I needed to revert to to that older version).
Do you know how often it auto backs up? Is there a way to adjust the time frame? Thanks!
@@CREATEEDUCATEINSPIRE Just cheched it now and there is no specific timeframe for it. but it does it really fine intervals, i can say that.
Keep doing these, please!!!
Will have another update in a week:) stay tuned
Also, triple monitor support!!!
I need more monitors 🤣
about automation - yes, Bitwig is suddenly laging behind Ableton on that regard, when it comes to tooling for manipulating automation in place in arranger. I think Ableton added a lot of this after version 10.
but at least you can enter specific values for points via inspector panel and do histogram analysis and manipulation of the selected points, including adding randomisation. another thing you can do is combining absolute automation with relative automations, which can be stored inside a clip, and do additive or multiplicative motion (like modulation), and you see result of automations working together. this could also be the way to add cycling shapes, using clip automation instead of track automation.
Damn. That sounds amazing. I’ll check this out!
@@CREATEEDUCATEINSPIRE in the interim, you can use the draw tool to draw in automation. it is very smooth and once done, it leaves points for you to edit afterwards. Holding option (on mac - alt on PC) allows for you to draw straight lines based on the grid size
My favourite educational channel, from MPC to Bitwig it's all A+ with no fluff. It helps he's an actual recording professional not just a professional geartuber
Thanks for watching. More videos to come, just been slammed. My wife got booked for south by southwest so making all the show edits.
@@CREATEEDUCATEINSPIRE nice I want a SXSW gf
Love this!!!!
I love you.
My suggestion for drumbuss replacement is creating a Chain with the functionality you want, then assigning some remote controls and save it as a preset.
Excellent video. Instant subscribe.
Welcome aboard!
5.1 just dropped!
Amazing
@@CREATEEDUCATEINSPIRE Check also 5.2. (Glue compressor ;)
That thumbnail is hilarious 😂
Might have to put it on a shirt
Capture Midi is a must have not provided by Bitwig. This Ableton feature records Midi in the background and is super useful if you play around with a controller, such as the Push, but you didn't record the session. The opportunity to recall Midi history is important. I hope Bitwig is listening. We also need video syncing. These two features are more important than more modulators, compressors, etc. We already have plenty.
Yeah people love that for whatever reason. I don't need Midi capture personally, I'll never use it. I have a supernatural memory, but that's irrelevant because I'm very direct about what I'm composing. It starts in my imagination and goes straight to my instrument. In other words, I already know what I'm going to do. That's how the few musicians I know irl work as well. Anyways, for the time being there are several MIDI capture software/plugins. Like MIDI cap, for example.
About video, I don't know who the "we" is in your scenario but a few years ago the devs said they had no intention on adding support for video. Maybe they'll change their minds at some point. Just FYI. Again, it's something I'll never need so it's not important to me at all. Good luck though.
There's also a M4L device that does that same backround recording except with audio for up to 5minutes similarly to Capture Midi, it's called Tape Buffer by MAUV studio
Yoi can use bird or monkey vst to capture midi or audio all the time
@@madmanj.official you the man thanks yo
I use MIDI Cap, its a plug in that is always grabbing the midi.
23:18 Well you can also Ctrl+G that VST session and put it inside a container and save it with a name for future use as container. This way you will not lose any specific controller mappings. Bitwig already puts any VST inside a container as visually seen, and you notice there is little arrow on the upper corner, there you can put any other VST or Bitwig devices like filter, ladder filter, comb, reverb etc.
Yeah automation is sluggish like that but its meant to be used in the editor! Select your clip, hit A on your keyboard and in the 3ditor now youll have way more controll be able to zoom in and way more snappy
Such a great point about the energy shift in a session after a crash! 💥
4:04 You can simply use LFO Curves and choose "square" form below and draw..
Are referring to Bitwig or ableton? Thanks for supporting.
@@CREATEEDUCATEINSPIRE Bitwig ofc. :)
In Bitwig there are several ways to get to your destination. Some are faster and others are shorter😉 . Bitwig is modular. I switched from Ableton to Bitwig 5 years ago and have been 100% Bitwigger ever since...
This video doubles as an advanced feature guide to ableton. Didn't know about automation shapes, vst containers, or what that A/B button did in VSTs
Thanks for watching and commenting.
Actually, I got a free - limited functionality VST, but Bitwig was able to see all the locked-out controls via the mapping pages ;)
Before select the clip try to press key "2" or "1", it changes the cursor tool, so you can do the duplicate thing as you want.
The solution for the CTRL + D thing is just to click on the title of the first clip from the top, then shift + click (or ctrl for manual clip / audio select) the title of the last clip you want to duplicate, THEN hit the duplicate command
Thank you!
On your question, I think it's a Live hangover. In live you cannot just loop clips without consolidating. In Bitwig just put your cursor at the bottom of the end of the clip and drag - it will just loop the whole clip. No need to duplicate at all. At a later stage you can split the looped clips of course.
Love it
3:02 you can drag the shape of the clip you want (after drawing it) to the clip arranger with the time selection tool and even save it as a shape for use in other projects. You can add favorites as well so that you can find and use all your custom shapes faster!
any chance you could send me a video of this? even a phone video. Im trying this but not sure if I am doing it correctly. This sounds awesome. My email is info@createeducateinspire.com
I really doubt anyone would use a modulator to add a simple automation. We just do it in the automation area. yeah.. it does take a small bit longer.
you can hold Ctrl on a line between two points to bring them up together and create square shapes pretty easily, similarly sine waves and S shapes can be made by holding Alt on a line or on a center point that's between two others to create a S curve pretty easy. any automation that I'm doing more than once or twice in a track I'll likely just set up an LFO or Segments for it and autonate it On/Off when I need it. pretty quick imo.
@@TheWilliamSnfrd Indeed
If its a cyclic pattern, I will always modulate before I automate. It just gives me more control and loads more happy accidents. If I do need a specific automation path then I record the automation and edit. Now that can be time consuming but I enjoy it more.
@@Kaligulathegod you can also put automation directly into the clip. That way you have far more control over the event and it will also cycle properly when you copy and paste
Have you found out a way to link tracks for layer editing like in ableton?
Don’t fully understand, what do you mean linking tracks in Ableton
Been using Bitwig since 1. I got it with free with something...cant remember what. Tried going to ableton because all of the tutorials on YT seem to be Ableton....but the workflow slowdown was crushing. These videos are great. Best thing about Bitwig is they will probs see this vid and add your sugestions next week. Have you seen that presonus and bitwig have teamed up to create a .daw file type to make sessions completely (well, it's new...) interchangable between DAWs? Lots of fun things happening from bitwig.
Yup!! Need to get a hold of studio 1 update and try it out
They are also driving the CLAP format for plugins. Modulate each stacked voice differently in a synth, e.g.
It's frustrating when Ableton crashes and you have to reload the project, unsure if everything is still intact.
Thanks one big reason im loving Bitwig
I would love beginner tutorials for Bitwig and Ableton. That mapping stuff is cool, but I just wish I knew more about it. Like how to do it and apply it. Thank you for the videos Stu. I look forward to new ones and I’m now a subscriber. I do own Bitwig and Ableton but it’s been months and I only opened them once. I really want to learn both, but I don’t where to start. I’m a songwriter type who’s just getting into electronic music.
Great suggestion. Im actually working on a multi-part production series for the channel, taking someone from zero to completed tracks, ready for release. Keep an eye out for episode 1 in the new weeks.
@@CREATEEDUCATEINSPIREThat‘s awesome. Thank you so much! I’m looking forward to it!
I don't know if you'd like that but I'm willing to spend an hour or two to teach you the ins and outs. I had experience in multiple daws but using bitwig exclusively for a couple years now. Free obviously, I just like to teach and spread the word.
Thanks for the offer. I would love to, can you shoot me an email at Info@createeducateinspire.com and we can plan something out. Looking forward to it.
@@CREATEEDUCATEINSPIRE I've sent a mail. Happy to help.
Importing ableton projects is also handy for other tools like DJ Studio which feature exporting to Ableton,
-- Thanks for the tip about DrivenByMoss. I have a couple supported devices on his list and I'm eager to see what his extension opens up on my gear.
-- Regarding your problem, I don't know about keyboard shortcuts, but dragging to select clips, then using CTRL+drag to copy them works cleanly.
-- You mentioned missing Ableton's built-in "Glue Compressor" but didn't say what it was about Bitwig's built-in compressor that wasn't doing the trick for you. I've been using on everything, from beefing up wind instruments & percussion to master-track & buss glue. Seems to get the job done and is nicely transparent about it. Doesn't seem to support side-chaining, though, which is an odd oversight, IMO.
Thanks for the support. Haven’t tried the stock compressor yet if I’m honest
Use the 'Dynamics' instead. Or put a audio sidechain on the compressor and modulate whatever you want.
Yup, finally learned that I can literally put an audio sidechain on anything. Bitwig has plugins for its plugins 🤣 @@CJnull
I'm completely mind blown that I can import Ableton sessions into Bitwig. Yes it's not perfect, but it's definitely useable for moving over incomplete projects and song ideas I've started in Ableton, do a few fix-ups and continue working on them in Bitwig. Thanks for the tip!
For the Bitwig Frustration, would holding CMD/CTRL down, selecting the desired clips to copy, then duplicating (cmd/ctrl - D) work?
~EDIT~
Tested this on my mac and it was CMD, not Shift. I can hold CMD down, select all clips I want to duplicate, and it skips over blank spaces.
NICE!! if I hold CMD I get a little minus and can deselect the empty space. I wonder if that can be set as the default, cause sometimes there's many empty spaces and im copy/pasting 20 tracks, half with empty spaces.
@@CREATEEDUCATEINSPIRE Odd, I don't see the minus. I'm on the 5.1 beta, but don't know if that's something different from current version or I'm just not seeing it. Hope this helps at least work around the frustration at least.
Just discovered your channel and subscribed. Looking forward to more!
With a touch monitor,, a way to automation with the finger
Haven’t tried touch but iPad with Apple Pencil is awesome
Why do you need to duplicate those clips? You can select the clips, turn on Looping in the Inspector on the left, then just drag the right edge of one of the selected clips to "copy" as many times as you want without copying and pasting, and without affecting tracks between the two clips. Then, if you need to edit a duplicated clip, just edit the original and all the copies get updated to match.
Hey. Polarity music just made a replacement for drum buss in bitwigs grid, just a couple of days ago. he A/B'd it and it pretty much does the same thing. He was linking it below his youtube video.
One pro advice: use 32 bit floating points, both for recording and bouncing, to prevent possible clippings.
Curious what happens if your audio interface clips on the way in, but you are at 32bit float in Bitwig?
I also switched, but that was 9 years ago, never had an intention to switch to any DAW again.
Wow! That’s awesome. When your sessions get big do you get midi lag when playing in? Ableton has a delay compensation, does bitwig?
@@CREATEEDUCATEINSPIRE It never occured to me but Bitwig invites for a different approach with midi, for example to use the midi devices they have or sequencers in the grid, i usually draw my notes and use fx and sound design, i do not play the notes very often because i usually only make progressive house and techno styles. But midi note delay probably also depends on the buffer size of your asio driver?
I’m so excited about bitwig, presonus, and the future of the .dawproject standard. There’s nothing wrong with ableton, logic, or any of the other major daws, they all have their charms and difficulties, and having so many valid choices is wonderful. However, being unable to open your friends project files, and having to resort to sending stems, due to working with different daws has long been a pain point, and a non insignificant factor in daw choice for many. If this format gets adopted as a standard, collaborators won’t be penalized for enjoying a different workflow from their contemporaries.
Do you find that you are missing Ableton Live's Groove functionality?
I don't use the groove much, most times I cut the audio or shift the midi to find the groove, so its not missed but.. would be an awesome addition.
Ohhh, wow. That Ableton duplicate functionality is really unexpected, I've never used it that way. It sort of makes sense, the selection changes after every duplicate event.
But I've never known it does this, since I move tracks around before I do detailed editing that requires duplication.
Thanks for watching
@x-iso Another advantage of bitwig over ableton, in ableton there is only time selection for track, two selected clips in the same track cannot be copied or moved with another clip in the midle without it being excluded from the operation, I think its a very big mistake, reaper also has two types of selections, clips or time.
It frustrated me at first but now I love it
Try BLEASS Saturator as a replacement for drum bus.
Great suggestion! Thanks
Simple solution for the end of the video problem. Move cursor around the clip you will see and + sign and draw it up or down to select those 2 clips and duplicate.. and one more way to do it select the clips while holding the Ctrl key.
Thanks!
If you want to use time selection to copy time from multiple tracks you can select time in one track and then ctrl click (Windows) in the other time regions of other tracks you want to copy. If you ctrl click again on a region it will remove it from the selection. This way you can have time selection spanning tracks with gaps in between thus excluding some tracks you don't want to copy.
Conceptually copying time selection is copying the sound of everything in that time selection. So the silence is also important for the sound and ignoring it would change the sound on duplicate or copy. But you can opt out of tracks you are not interested in by toggling the time selection region for that track as mentioned above.
Thank you!!!
@@CREATEEDUCATEINSPIRE Double comment from another post but,
Other thoughts, I would custom a whole bunch of shortcuts, like re-do the zoom in and zoom out, you can make the timeline pointer 1 instead of 2, and make the 2 shortcut the default cross-hair pointer thing, etc and more. Also the large to short track height collapse is useful, I just shortcutted that. Turned the Daw look to more all--black, no midtones level, etc.
You also have the draw pointer thing (pencil tool), it's shortcut number 3, or the keyboard key 3, you can draw automation that way, similar to Ableton's ctrl-b pencil tool etc.
I think they could keep making Bitwig more advanced if they want to, it's quite barebones and simple especially with atmos features and video, like in Logic. I also add the time ruler as default, etc
So just you know, Bitwig's eq has latency so when you use it in a group it'll create phasing.It's a known issue that'sbeen in Bitwig for a while.
Only the EQ+ HAD this issue of uncompensated latency. It was fixed with 5.1
I feel people think Bitwig is another more improved version of Ableton. Like they were trying to give ableton the finger because they didn't do what they wanted, I don't think that's actually the case. But I think Bitwig is designed for a different purpose. Ableton was meant for live performances. Everything is clean, and quick to grab and simple looking so it is easy to use when you're in front of 70 thousand people. Funny thing, was Ableton originally when it first came out was more for live performances, but they quickly realized how much people wanted to produce and perform. However, Ableton was made in 2001. Long ass time ago. Bitwig seems to be made for production rather than live performances and more focused on experimentation rather than just song writing. I think they made it because Ableton wasn't focused on the smaller group of technical musicians who wanted to get really nitty gritty. Ableton was more for song writers, bands, etc. Both can accomplish similar things, but both also were created for certain artists. That being said, get both and use them together if you can. It's a match made in heaven.
They both have their strength but I just test the CpU efficiency… damn!!! Results posted on Thursdays video… pretty amazing results
My wishlist for Bitwig is:
- automation... please...
- remove automation smoothing
- slices added to sampler (without using drummachine)
- contextual keybinds
and for the love of god remove the popup browser and make the side browser useable, especially the "file" browser, which u cant search in
I agree. Automation update would be awesome. The highlight and grab like Ableton and the shapes are amazing
Wait until you start using the track view on midi it's so good! It lets you work on individual clips as one track and you start to compose things more efficiently
Is there any videos that show this? Would love to research it.
@@CREATEEDUCATEINSPIRE Most likely Polarity has a video on it but I only found out through my own experience
Driven by Moss Maschine Mk3 script doesnt function as in his video, it is quirky
What are you having issues with?
@CREATEEDUCATEINSPIRE no coloured knob functions on screen and flashing buttons on top that don't do anything when pressed.
seams like the only real heavy heavy heavyweight on ableton's side of the scale is max4live
I would say the Bitwig grid is much easier to get into then max4live. P
Ableton Crashing is What Drove me to Demo Bitwig. same I why I Dropped Solidworks to move to OnShspe for my CAD.
Never had one crash in Bitwig
About your problem, i think it's better to use the drag copy function instead of CTRL-D, then you can make nice use of the operators too. Or you select the blocks with CTRL instead of selecting all 3 of the tracks.
Thanks!
Bitwig has the best support for Maschine controllers on the market. They feel "almost native" in Bitwig. So, anyone who uses a Maschine MK3, Mikro MK3 or Maschine+ should consider Bitwig over Ableton due to how well those controllers work there. Try a trial. Must be experienced to be appreciated. Most things are mapped 1:1, so the controls are very intuitive and it works the same way it would work in the Maschine 2 software. If using Bitwig, definitely prefer Maschine over MPC, barring other requirements or personal preferences.
The best MIDI Controllers for Bitwig are those like the Oxygen Pro 49/61 which are Ableton Live Certified (Bitwig automatically switches to the Ableton Preset - the Bitwig Preset seems pretty worthless) on top of better on-device controls and a Note Repeat Engine, Rotary Knob for Session Navigation, and nice Firmware-based Theory Features. Novation Launcheky MK3 and SL-series work very well, as well, and are more "specifically-built" for these DAWs. Less flexible as a controller, though, and the Aftertouch is on the pads instead of the Keys (opposite of Oxygen Pro). Flawless Parameter Pickup for Knobs and Faders, color coded pads for Session View, etc.
I just wish Bitwig had a better menu system. It has the worst feature discovery of any DAW that I've ever used because there is no menu to "overview" its functionality like almost every other DAW I've used has...
It also has a pretty bad way of updating itself ON WINDOWS. Going from 5.1.8 to 5.1.9 creates a new installation in a different directory (as every install directory is versioned), and when you uninstall the old version, it breaks all of the file associations forcing you to Repair the new installation to fix it. I think the best way to update is to uninstall Bitwig and then re-install the new version. That should still carry over all of the settings (Content Directory, etc.). I will try that on a laptop later today. On macOS, this is less of an issue since you Drag-and-Drop the app to Applications and can choose to simply replace it, which avoids these issues by doing an in-place upgrade since the installations are not versioned (e.g. C:\Program Files\Bitwig Studio\Bitwig 5.1.8 vs. C:\Program Files\Bitwig Studio\Bitwig 5.1.9).
Ableton Live does versioned installations, but it actually ports things like file associations over when installing a later version, so you can just uninstall the old version without having it break anything. Not sure why the Bitwig developers haven't figured this out yet. The software has been out for a while, and this is something they absolutely should have noticed during testing and worked to alleviate. Being able to double click a project file and open it in the relevant application is a basic thing people just expect to happen - even across application updates or upgrades.
Both of these DAWs need a way to manage (and hide) individual plug-ins from the browser. It sucks when you have a few VST2-only plug-ins that you want to use, but enabling that format surfaces 40 redundant VST2 plug-ins (that also have VST3 versions that you'd always use over them) because they aren't auto-hidden, and there is no way to manually hide them (Studio One, Cubase, Reason, Samplitude Pro X, SONAR, Digital Performer, WaveLab, Sound Forge, Resolve, VEGAS, ACID, etc. all allow doing this).
Use both they link together easily. I use 3 different daws 1 tool in your tool but is a silly idea. We have the box full of tools
They could definitely keep making Bitwig more advanced, it's like really simple right now and barebones in the timeline linear view and even some performance stuff
Welcome to the dark side 😜
It’s nice on this side.
I don´t need the time consuming "The Grid" and I don´t need modulation in each direction... Bitwig is more for sound nerds. So I prefer Abelton Life.
I don’t use any of the grid or modulators, use it just like a do Ableton but the browser is soooo much more efficient and just speeds up my flow state
Tested your issue with duplicating clips. If you grab a clip from the top section, you will see a + icon. When grabbing from there and selecting multiple clips it won't override a clip from a track in-between the 2 selected clips. On the contrary, if you see the "I" icon (selecting bottom section of clip/track, it will duplicate everything, even empty spaces. Secondly, if you understand how drum buss works, it's easy to replicate using compression, saturation, and the resonator device. I attempted to recreate it myself and results were pretty decent.
Legend!!! Damn that is sick, so many options without switching tools
Thanks!
* Bitwig has its own version of drumbus. I think it’s listed as an “FX layer”
* Writing automation in Bitwig is a pain in the ass, I totally agree. I’ve heard it’s improved a bit in version 5.1 though
It has improved. I’ve been messing with iPad as display and Apple Pencil and automation with the pencil is amazing.
That's great news!
Cause the old automation was giving me headache galore!@@CREATEEDUCATEINSPIRE
@@CREATEEDUCATEINSPIREHow do you do that?
Once you get used to the modulators... you can't live without them...
You can do a lot with Beat LFO, you can make a sidechain that way or use the audio sidechain modulator. You can also use it for dynamic eq and envelope eq
Bitwig is ableton 20 😂
Yup!!
Basically yes. Original Ableton developer(s) setup Bitwig.
i dont get it how does one have sex with a software?
You gotta ram the hard drive and hope she’s got a good cpu.
I will never miss anything from ableton : because I would not switch an entire DAW for couple minor features. I hear this everywhere, people using multiple DAW's for the sake of using multiple DAW's : why !? If I cannot do it in LIVE, I will simply not do it :
It may be different for you since you work with musicians but holy s**t point me to a person that uses any DAW to it's maximum capabilities. No such person exists !
Imagine Vince Clarke or Chris Lowe having access to this in the 80's and gripe about missing features ....😁😁
thats big big errors and missing features of Ableton Live .... nailed ...
Thanks for supporting
you buried ableton in this video. How many session and mood crashed because of a damn plugin. Bitwig here i come
Ableton doesn't even work.
So according to your thumbnail, you left a dude for a female..?🤔😆😆
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Bitwig is cool but their pricing is awful. Ableton is much better for updates.
You serious? Ableton version updates cost as much or more than the most expensive full brand new user license for Bitwig.
Ableton is outdated. Ableton 12 is not becoming better, just fancy useless generative MIDI stuff, an overcrowded arranger window and browser where you have to edit the tags by yourself for millions of samples and VSTs
I tried the generative midi and it just was beep boop and not very musical. For me, working out the vibe and melody is one of the best parts of production. Learn music, don’t just slot machine the generate button and hope for something.
how is the time stretching and/or warping system in bitwig if any ? haven't seen you touch on that
It's more involved than Live's, aka more time consuming to use for stuff that Live handles quicker imo, but it has some advantages creatively. That said, 5.1 beta dropped last Wednesday and they've added some sort of transient detection system that seemingly will make the task cake while also being a cool creative tool. I haven't tried it personally, I'm waiting until the official release. There's a couple vids on YT that touched on it, you can do a search if interested. Hopefully someone out there makes a more in depth video about it soon.
@EnervatedSociety got it thanks for the info. I literally got recommended his first video on bitwig by youtube yesterday so it's my first time hearing about bitwig ever and I'm highly interested, I can't lie, I use session view in ableton for my live sets so I need to know exactly how session view in bitwig works and I'm pretty sure it works the same probably better but more importantly the warping system has to be the same or better than ableton for me to really make try it out. Remixing samples like how I do in ableton and auto warp and being able to manipulate the sample with transients etc etc bitwig has to do that and more so hopefully that's the case. It's crazy how I'm just now discovering and hearing about bitwig, how long has it been around ? I've seen some internet fan boys on his other video bashing and hating on ableton as if there isn't room for everybody to exist, there's tons a daws out these days and they all have there pros and cons. Bitwig from what I've saw so far is they closest thing to ableton which mean they copied abletons system AND MADE IT BETTER "don't quote me on that yet" lol but these haters talk like bitwig is the king now and it's like come on dude, stop hating, they both can exist along with every other daw.
@@ob8719 I moved from Logic Pro, after a couple decades, to Live. That's lasted a few months because just like that dude Stu I moved to Bitwig after 1 day. Only I never looked back and It's my one and only DAW. It's more like an instrument with a DAW in it. The founder of Bitwig, Claes Johanson, used to work for Ableton so yeah, some things carried over and those things are obvious, but it's really it's own beast. It became usable, imo, around ver 2.2ish but it's been a work in progress ever since. It's not as fully featured as more mature DAW's but it's getting there. For me personally, it's now to the point that it's got everything I need to get the work done.
Given your needs def demo it first. I'd wait until the release of 5.1 to see if the new detection system meets your needs because currently Live if def better on warping.
I'd say Bitwig strongest point is sound design. I'd say it's the best, but I'm biased. It's modulation inception in there. One cool thing I'll mention is that Bitwig sandboxes plugins. So if a plugin crashes, it doesn't take the whole session with it. it crashes alone. You just start right back up and off you go.
thanks for watching. More to come comparing the two
Working on a video showing 5.1 updates. Thanks for watching.
I’m so excited about bitwig, presonus, and the future of the .dawproject standard. There’s nothing wrong with ableton, logic, or any of the other major daws, they all have their charms and difficulties, and having so many valid choices is wonderful. However, being unable to open your friends project files, and having to resort to sending stems, due to working with different daws has long been a pain point, and a non insignificant factor in daw choice for many. If this format gets adopted as a standard, collaborators won’t be penalized for enjoying a different workflow from their contemporaries.