M*A*S*H is just something else.
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"This is so funny... in a really morbid, messed up way." Yup, that sums up MASH pretty well.
That's what black comedies do, make fun of disturbing topics like death.. Airplane! the movie though is a parody of other movies so it's weird that Ashley thought they were similar.
Alan Alda took over in season 4 and made MASH about HIM. During the 1972 Christmas break, most of the cast taped messages of hope and come home soon (in one piece) for the military still in Vietnam. Two who did not and loudly REFUSED were Alan Alda and Gary Burghoff. They felt that telling the soldiers and Marines in Vietnam that they hoped they'd come home soon was tantamount to supporting the War.
Klinger coming on turned MASH into an unfunny ideologically liberal McHale's Navy that was wholly dedicated to the personage and career of Alan Alda.
MASH the movie was extremely aware of the cruelty of the main characters. It was also extremely aware of operating a hospital just a few miles from the front. And it was aware of the "my career comes first, along with Army discipline" of Frank and Hot Lips.
Alda vetoed the notion of having Duke or any white Southerners on the TV series who appeared in a decent light. Sorta like Neil Young refusing to do concerts in the South except for South Florida. So fuck him, too.
I'm as progressive as the next guy but I don't like straw villains like white Southerners are only bad and are probably in the Klan shoved down my throat by quiche-eaters like Alda.
The movie? Classic and more realistic and to the point than Saving Private Ryan. You just KNOW Spielberg tried to get a Black actor and an openly gay character in that squad of overaged overweight Rangers who defied physics with science fiction shots like the sniper made. MASH is about how the war, any war, fucks with your head until you're like Animal Mother in Full Metal Jacket. Who had a positive outlook. "Better you than me." Because that is how we the living must think to put the next foot in front of us and keep going. Even in a war of startling moral clarity like WW2.
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Altman despised the TV series for many of the same reasons you laid out. It was largely fraudulent and the anarchic spirit of the film was completely undercut by Alda's obsession with delivering self righteous monologues, which Sutherland's Hawkeye never does. If Norman Lear had helmed the show perhaps it might have been different. But as it is it's largely insufferable. Which is a shame as there are lots of good actors on the show.
Amen. And take a look at 2024. Did 1970 EVER decide that American Democracy had not aged well? As we are doing now? Nothing in MASH can equal in horror what we are apparently about to do. @@Starchdread
Like Wayne Rogers and McLean Stevenson, adept at playing regular guys with no agenda beyond getting laid and going home.
MASH the movie had one agenda: the complete destruction of hypocrisy. He was EXTREMELY aware of the frat house humor and cruelty of The Swamp. Meaning Altman was aware.
1. The football game was HIS history of the Korean War. Per the man himself.
2. Listen to the final PA announcement. MASH is instantly lumped with all the WW2 propaganda films they show. How MASH can be described as wacky and zany instead of savagely viciously funny, starring anti-heroes who are only great in the O.R.
3. I'll go postal if I hear "has not aged well" from a performer/reactor. Which is predicated on the notion that we are perfect. Actually we live in a MAGA/MAWA country that saw 2016 elect Herr Trump and 1/6/2021 and the storming of the capitol. And in Nov it looks like we are getting ready to jettison Democracy and the Jeffersonian idea of America as an ideal which is beyond borders.
4. Nothing, not homophobic slurs or sexist remarks or racist remarks, can even approach the catastrophes of 2016 and 1/6/21 and apparently Nov 2024. Did 1970 ever elect an anti-American fascist? Did 1970 ever storm the capitol and kill cops on 1/6/21? Did 1970 ever appear to elect Trump again, even knowing what we know now? No no and no. Did 1970 roll back human rights? Voting rights? No No.
5. The past can now (as of 2016) kick out immoral asses.
6. Altman knew what he was doing. When Hot Lips has her meltdown in front of Colonel Blake, look at the face of the girl he is in bed with. She CLEARLY is sympathetic to Hot Lips' position. Very clearly. But she lets it go. Altman knew it. That's why her disapproving face is in the frame. If he approved of the actions of the Swamp tenants, he would not have used that take showing the sympathy of the girl.
And...he could be commenting on the God-complexes of good Surgeons who can get away with anything mon-violent as long as they are good Surgeons and gung no about one thing: saving life.
7. The football game, Altman said, was war in a nutshell. Especially Vietnam.
8. The TV series should have been called A*L*D*A.
9..MASH was the first mainstream
American film to use the word "fuck" onscreen.
10..it's a testament to the savage power of the movie's humor that this is probably this woman's best video, despite her cluelessness about Ho-Jon
and other plot points and her 2,out of 5 judgement. The best is Deliverance. Just showing scenes from MASH 1970 is enough to catapult this into 2nd place.
The MASH series that came out of this movie lasted like 5 times longer than the actual war.
Close.3 times🎩
Incorrect, do your research. The show lasted 11 seasons and 256 episodes. The real war lasted 1,128 days.
as well it should be
@@erikerice9068 The war actually NEVER ended. It's a cease-fire.
@@Vince1266 well, if you want to be technical 🙄
M*A*S*H stands for Mobile Army Surgical Hospital. FYI, Also the only actor that was both in the movie and T,V. series was Gary Burghoff who was Corporal Radar O'Reiley
General Hammond G. Wood is also in both the movie and the show
And radar was less of an innocent teddy bear in the movie.
@@CasperC1451and the guy who played Spearchucker. But he mysteriously disappeared after the first few episodes.
@@CasperC1451 "Spearchucker Jones"" on the show (first season), was in the movie as another character.
@@Hobbes1025 Yep, Tim Brown played Hudson in the movie and was brought over to the TV series as Spearchucker Jones. Wish they would have kept him around for more than a handful of episodes, I always like both the actor and the character.
"..he could be on screen right now.." he's on screen right now.
One thing that's nice to see apparently go over Ashleigh's head is the idea that Spearchucker could have gotten his nickname for anything other than his athletic ability.
Yeah 😒
Definitely a double entendre.
EVERYTHING goes over Ashleigh's head.
@@clarencewalker3925 Sometimes I wonder whether she's putting us on or if she's really that naive.
@@gazoontight She's just from a different generation
The MASH TV show was my grandmother's favorite show. She was a nurse in WWII and the Korean War and worked in mobile hospitals like the one in MASH. She ended up getting released for medical reasons when a Korean soldiers invaded their camp and one of them came in their hospital tent and butted her in the spine with the back of his rifle. He turned his rifle and was going to bayonet her when a fellow nurse got her service revolver out in time and shot him. The crazy thing was they were trying to save the life of a Korean soldier at the time. She had so many stories to tell both from the wars and in civil life about helping save people's lives.
How bad was her mobility impaired by the attack? I will assume she was not permanently paralyzed since you allude to a civilian career in the medical field...unless that was during the years between WWII and Korea.
My father served in Korea and was seriously wounded. He wound up in a Swedish MASH unit. They weren’t speaking much English, he spoke no Swedish. they wanted to take his leg, he was having none of it. He won the argument. He watched the series MASH religiously. He found it somewhat cathartic.
Maybe the Korean soldier they were working to save was a dickhead.
She sounds like a strong, amazing woman!!! They all were in those days!!
14:28 Lives are always at stake at a MASH. What you are seeing is them trying to cope with the absolute non stop horror of mangled bodies that they can't possibly save all of.
What you are seeing is a drugged out director glorifying his stoner friends' idiotic lifestyle using the excuse of medical trauma to justify stoned out irresponsible behavior.
As they called it in the TV series...*Meatball Surgery*
ok Hawkeye
@@timcarder2170 I gotta have THOSE RIBS!
@@JTSDAD67 We want something else! We want something else! We want something else!
"We have a lot of voices!"
If there's a chaotic dialog scene with 3+ people talking over each other and no one standing out, it's probably a movie directed by Robert Altman.
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Or an early 70's movie by Steven Spielberg...
There's a very good scene like that in John Ford's *The Searchers.*
@@NZBigfoot Spielberg only made 2 movies in the early '70s _(Duel_ and _The Sugarland Express)._ Which one are you talking about? Spielberg isn't known for overlapping dialogue.
Since Shelley Duvall just died, Ashleigh should probably do one of her movies she did with Robert Altman, such as Nashville, Popeye, or 3 Women.
Bless your innocence, not getting the spearchucker reference.
And in the south no less!
Yet here you are with full knowledge of the term and you feel free to use it. Freakin racist
@@Joedirt3349 I think it was more of an Australian expression.
I'm aware of the racial slur that it is but in the book as a way of deflecting he talks about his javelin throwing in school.
@@ThreadBomb It's actually a derogatory term by American white person to describe an African American, unfortunately.
Ironic how the overlapping dialogue was distracting to someone who talks over the dialogue.
"The Bickersons" was a radio show about a couple that spent the entire show cutting each other down with insults. The star was Don Ameche.
And Jekyl and Hyde is a bloody book. From the 1886.
aka Mortimer Duke
@@michaelleoanrd194 Which has more than one famous movie based on it.
@@michaelleoanrd194 That has been made into many movies and at least one Broadway musical. BTW in a version I saw on tv in the 70s Jack Palance played the lead and daringly for the time, it is made clear that Hyde frequents and physically abuses both Male and Female sex workers. I was a bit surprised at the time since it was on tv before there was such a thing as cable and almost anything even mildly LGBTQ was highly censored.
@@rcrawford42 and of course, Don Ameche invented the telephone. generation older than me frequently referred to that instrument as "The Ameche".
"Did they know he was taking drugs?" They gave Ho-Jon the drugs so he would fail the physical.
They don't say it, but that is Ho Jon's body being taken away in the background of the poker scene.
@@keithdean9149in the original script he's also the patient they were operating on when Radar brings in the blood he took from Henry
The blond dude in glasses is Donald Sutherland. You'd love him in Kelly's Heroes.
Keep them positive waves comin'!
Woof woof!
Oddball !!
We need to get this movie in her line up for Veteran's Day
Or in The Eagle Has Landed
M*A*S*H is a war protest movie. It was made at the beginning of the Vietnam War. They purposefully used Vietnamese motifs (the wok hats for example as well as the name Ho-Jon when Kim would be more accurate). It may be set during Korea, but it was more about Vietnam.
That said, I can understand the 2 star rating. Being a veteran myself, I love the movie. It does capture a lot about the military life. Dark humor, have to jump to work so fast you can't even get your uniform on (like when they were operating in their golf clothes), even the ending where they get orders to go home (you make good friends in the military and when you get orders to go somewhere else you just drop everything and go). It hits different for me, but that is just how it is. Not a movie I want to watch all the time either, but I consider it a must watch.
Ashliegh, this efinitely agree. Definitely a must see movie, while at the same time the TV series of the same name fared far better in popularity and success than the movie. Thus I Also understand your rating of 2 of 5 stars.
Happily the TV series did well enough in the early seasons to continue on which allowed the main characters to be better fleshed out over tune and have the chance to develop and grow. Though it would take far too long to react to the series as it lasted for 11 seasons, but worth checking out on your own.
The original book, which you should read, was about the authors experiences in Korea. There was no way to tell that story without mentioning the horror that was and is war. The series kept throwing in hints that the Vietnam war was no better.
More than a few decades ago, I was casevacced to a field hospital set up on an airfield. The 'ward' was in a large makeshift hangar, in the middle of which was a smaller tent setup which was the operating theatre, literally 10 metres away from my bed.
A mysterious bug had taken hold in my foot, which within hours had swollen and was starting to die. I was given 24hrs to show signs of improvement or the only choice would be to surgically start removing bits of my foot. Had IV drips in both arms, one for fluids and antibiotics, the other with industrial strength painkillers which thankfully did the trick. About four or five days later i discharged myself, hobbled out, and hitched a lift back to my unit. Took more than 6 months to fully recover the feeling in my foot, after all the skin peeled off like a glove.
During my stay however, a person was brought in having been shot with a large calibre round. I'll never forget seeing the surgeon's face as he walked out the back of the tent, past my bed, with the most disappointed look I've ever seen on the face of a human being, having lost the patient.
Larry Linville as Frank Burns in the tv series is one of the greatest tv characters ever.
Those snivelling lips or the stomping feet, absolute comedy gold
Larry Linville WAS A GREAT CHARACTER ACTOR BEYOND MASH...... he played a cop several times; mob-connected thief that scared the hell out of you with his threats to a female character in the room; lawyers several times; accountants; a great spy controller for CIA; a Stazi-like colonel... Recurring roles on Rockford Files, Mannix, Barnaby Jones, Trapper John, Mission Impossible tv series, etc, etc
Frank Burns eats worms. ;)
I laughed at stuff from the movie during your review that I don’t remember laughing at before.
@@rickpat-x9uI remember “Trapper John, MD” and it was supposed to be the character Trapper from the tv show MASH after getting back home but many years later and recast. Was Larry reprising his Frank Burns role? Or was he playing a different character?
The book was written by an army surgeon, who was drafted and sent to Korea. The book is more graphic than the movie. It is also hilarious.
And just as random. You should check out American Daughter Goes to War by Winnie Smith. Excellent book. Not nearly as hilarious though. She was a nurse.
Agreed, the book is far funnier than the movie (and I liked the movie). If you ever get a chance you might also find "M*A*S*H Goes to Maine" a good read as well. It involves the Finest Kind Fishmarket and Clinic' they start in Maine in honor of the "Finest Kind Pediatric Hospital & Whorehouse" that Hawkeye and Trapper go to after operating on the Congressman's son in Tokyo.
@@Ranger1PresentsVirtualRealms There was a series of books after Mash goes to Maine but they were not nearly as good.
Yep, Richard Hooker was his name (not his real name). Hooker was his golf swing, and professional ethics, at that time, prohibited the use of a doctors real name, on things outside of research papers. At the time that the last episode of the TV series was shown, his real name was revealed. Richard Hornberger.
I slapped my head when Ash said "I don't know what Donald Sutherland looks like so he could be on screen right now and I would know". Donald has been in most scenes for far.🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
And he is so difficult to recognise.....
Yep! My first thought was, "He's the one that looks rather like Keifer Sutherland"
Right, so - pull up a sandbag, story time.
Some years ago, I made my living working on a movie lot. A sales rep (woman, millennial, rather cute) would show up about once per month with her company credit card and buy lunch for us in the "commissary" - Hollywood-speak for what's actually a nice restaurant right on the lot, with waiters and tablecloths. So we were enjoying lunch when Donald Sutherland walks in and sits two tables down. I nudge our sales rep slightly - seeing a star is why we're here, right? She has no idea. Who?
I'm properly scandalized, start listing movies in a slightly exasperated whisper, and then, suddenly, the lightbulb goes on. "Oh! Kiefer's dad!"
And that was the day I realized I'd aged a generation.
I'm pretty sure she thought Tom Skarritt was Donald Sutherland until the very end.
@@thomasklausen4596 So, a cute millennial girl you knew hadn't seen _MASH, Don't Look Now, Klute, Kelly's Heroes, The Dirty Dozen_ or _Ordinary People?_ Wow, fascinating story... not!
"How y'all got on the same shirt?"
😂
It's a uniform! They ALL wear the same shirt... lol
As for the MASH TV series, it holds a special place in my heart. My grandfather was a WWII combat vet. By the early 1980s, he was enjoying his retirement. I was just a little kid. I didn't understand why he'd laugh his ass off at the MASH TV series. As an adult, I have seen the movie and the series, and I laugh just as hard. It helps me feel closer to my Pop-Pop.
Three of my uncles were veterans of the Korean War. Each of them officers but spread from Germany to Korea. None of them saw any battlefield experience. I asked one of them, a sergeant who flew with The Outlaw B-17, if he or the other soldiers felt belittled by the sit coms Hollywood created about the war(s). He told me, "Of course not! We were all just a bunch of kids over there anyways..." That uncle, he was a photographer for the Air Force. I asked him once if he ever fired his weapon at all over in Korea and he explained, "Only once...." He told me how he was up late one night /early morning working in the photo processing lab and he noticed this big rat scurry past the open door every other minute, like clockwork! It was really distracting him from his detail oriented chores. Finally, when that dirty rat came by once more --"Pow!" or "Boom!" he blasted it with his army issue sidearm! (Was that a .45 caliber?). Well, he soon after finished up in the lab, signed out and returned to his barracks before dawn. Not long after reveille though, he was escorted to the office of his commanding officer --just across the hall from the photo developing lab. His next two superiors were there to question him about the large hole in the baseboard of the wall to that office! He explained the entire story, as I tried to above, and -while struggling to keep straight faces- they told my uncle, "Next time, Sergeant, ("Snicker, snicker...") request a trap." Then he was dismissed. He told me that as he walked down the long hall... He could still hear them laughing hysterically back in the office! --Yep. Most of them were fairly young and no so disciplined, they were always ready for a laugh whenever they could get away with it! 😀
Fun fact: The M*A*S*H* TV series finale, titled "Goodbye, Farewell and Amen", aired on Feb 28, 1983 and received a 60.2 Nielsen rating. Making it the highest-rated telecast at the time. Those kind of numbers would be unimaginable today for a TV series.
My favorite thing about that episode is that after it was done, the New York City water supply went almost to crisis mode because so many people held their bladders and bowels for so long they all went to the bathroom all at the same time, and the collective flush from all toilets did that.
@@JL-sm6cg For real? Never heard that. That is totally wild.🚽
@@Elephant2024-wi2liIt actually was part of the data confirming the Nielsen rating. It made the news reports once confirmed.
Isn't it still the most watched non-sports TV episode? Eliminate the Superb Owls and I think it is.
@@hectorsmommy1717The “Superb Owls” must have been one incredible show to beat out M*A*S*H*.
Best spelling mistake ever, lol.
I was a Medical Technician in the Air Force during the Iraq War (2003-2007). We rotated from *Balad Air Base* via Ramstein, Germany to *Washington, DC.* One of the first things our Commanding Officer said to us was "I catch anyone joking around or doing anything similar to *MASH,* I'll court martial them on the spot." We were actually surprised he even heard of *MASH.* Needless to say, we made sure he didn't catch anybody doing anything. 😜 Great reaction!
When I was in boot camp at Fort Knox in 1982, being the son of a career officer, I had some idea of the realities of military life. There were a lot of guys in the outfit though whose sole knowledge of the army came from old episodes of MASH. Boy did they get a shock.
29:31 they were giving Ho-Jon the drugs to make him seem like a bad fit for the army. They were trying to protect their friend from becoming a soldier. Sadly, the Korean doctor saw through it.
This meant a lot to the Vietnam-era audience-there were whole books out on how to beat conscription. (It turns-out my elbows wouldn't have bent enough to allow me to have been drafted, such a shame…).
@@AynMax666 MASH was so good, I mainlined the novels as a teenager. Loved the earlier seasons of the series. Without the laugh tracks, if possible. Radar O’Riley is a legend.
I got the distinct impression (ie my dad told me) way back then, MASH was intentionally analogous to the Vietnam war.
I think the scene that stays with me the most is Hawkeye talking to the reporter. It just felt so relatable. Like for a moment he wasn’t Hawkeye Pierce, meatball surgeon for the 4077. He was Joe Anyguy, saying hi to his dad, whom he missed dearly.
MASH had heart. It’s a great film.
"Who died?"
Oh Ashleigh, it's a war.
Hawkeye didn't steal the Jeep. He strategically transferred equipment to an alternate location.
Just wondering if KELLY'S HEROES was on that list. If not, it should have been.
It definitely should’ve been in there!
Always with the Negative ways
@@ME143-c1d He actually said, WAVES, like when people put out bad Karma. This was one of Donald's most insane roles. And what a cast.
@@Martman5150 It is my favorite of that style of movies! Burning Bridges is also a fantastic song that i can't help but think of Kelly's Heroes, when i hear it!
@@ME143-c1d 🤣
"I hear so many voices!"
Welcome to the world of Robert Altman movies.
Yup. THAT and a lot of tele-lens shots :)
Had to scroll to double check no one already commented, literally word for word what I was going to comment, lol! Welcome indeed to the world of Robert Altman. 😂
Robert Altman is one of the hardest directors to introduce newbies to because he's so his own particular voice that you have to get on his wavelength.
"It seemed like stuff was happening just to happen." Yep, and that's another Altman trademark. (And although I love the ensemble nature of his films, I've never liked his over-use of zoom shots, I find it super distracting.)
I'm hearing voices as well. Sincerely yours David Berkowitz ( aka Son of Sam )
"Hot Lips, you incredible nincompoop"
Freakin love this movie. Military humor is always a trip. When you live in a sea of death, you find humor where you can.
"This is funny, in a morbid, messed up way" nicely describes MASH.
I think "Invasion of the Body Snatchers" will make an impression.
Original black and white , invasion of body snatchers ,I think was better.
Its amazing to think, the son of the director wrote the song as a joke as his dad said "Write a song that is kind sad and funny." and that song would go on to be the main theme of the long running tv series and the son made more money from this "joke" of a song did over the years than his father made for directing this film.
Yup. But in the TV show, it's just an instrumental. Still a payday.
The really funny thing is that the son only wrote the lyrics which weren't used on the TV series.
He was also gonna sell the song in exchange for a guitar. Instead of royalties.
As someone who survived a suicide attempt, I was amazed at how accurate the lyrics are. I think that kid had some darker feelings than he wanted to admit to.
Robert Altman was the director. He wanted a silly song for John Schuck's funeral scene. Robert tried writing the song himself but could not. If I remember correctly, he asked his then 15 year old son Mike, while eating breakfast, if he could write something. Mike was done before breakfast was over. Robert thought so much of the song, he also used it as the theme song.
It is estimated that Mike has received about a million dollars in royalty payments over the decades. His dad earned a flat 70K for directing.
You missed the fact that the dentist was hung like a horse
NO he tried to kill himself with drugs not a rope!
'I wouldnʼt want to see _that_ "angry".'
@@AynMax666 The quote was ,"I'd sure like to see that angry."
Hot Lips was supposed to disappear after the shower incident but Altman was so impressed with Sally Kellerman he kept her in the film
And thankfully Loretta Swit's version got more depth in the TV series than just being Burn's bit on the side.
I'm glad he did, she stole many of the scenes during the football game as she started passionately cheering the guys on. People say the transition from enemy to friend happens early in the TV show but really we see it in the movie.
Don't feel bad for it not being your cup of tea, Ashleigh. Dark comedy (and especially wartime dark comedy) is not for everyone. It's also important to keep in mind the time frame of the movie. It takes place during the Korean War, but it was made during (and it's about) the Vietnam War. It's kind of difficult to get your head around that and appreciate the nuances if you're not from either of those times.
I'd say the problem is that the movie is visually ugly, the sound is harsh, and the treatment of women, especially Hotlips, is pretty bad.
@@ThreadBomb The visuals and sound make the movie.
@Threadbomb So it's accurate to what it's depicting. As it should be.
No. Right and wrong are right and wrong no matter the time or place. We absolutely CAN judge 1951 by 2024. Because we are perfect now. And we'll prove it in November by electing Hitler and his MAGA, I mean Nazi, followers.
This video performance was scripted because it is too dead on. "He could be on the screen now" as he is on the screen now. Come on. This is professional wrestling.
And everyone in Tennessee knows what "spearchucker" is. What an idiot for expecting us to believe that shit is real. "Oh! Too much blood in the operating room!" Jesus H. Christ.
@@ThreadBomb I was trying to think of how to bring that up without having people tune out. Yes Hot Lips is hypocritical by sleeping with Frank, but given that half or more of the men are sleeping around on their wives the only excuse they have for treating her badly is because she wants military rules followed. Not saying they all had to be super sweet to her but rigging the shower to collapse to see her naked and all the guys waiting around to see was just cruel. You usually don't want your heroes to be cruel. The movie is good , don't get me wrong, but it comes from a POV where women were thought not to deserve respect and a lot of the football subplot is about her complaints being trivialized. I think the other reason this subplot was acceptable in the past is that her character symbolized the establishment during a time (the Vietnam Era) where the establishment was the VILLAIN , so the POV of the movie is you can do anything to her character and be on the side of good. They also reinforce the idea that Hawkeye and Pierce are good when the operate on the baby. Real life is however more complex and you CAN have a person do a good deed for one person and be a terrible person who harms other people if they feel like it.
Just a tidbit here as to women wearing pants, as recently as the 90’s a company could require women wear dresses or skirts while the me. Wore suits. The women could not wear a pant suit. That’s the kind of stuff feminists were wrapping up the fight over. It was done by 2000, we have it pretty easy if we’re qualified now. The problem is the unqualified want standards lowered for them. Putting my soapbox away now. ✊ Girl power.
Just reminding people that viagra was invented around 1998, not the 50s.
I'm sure that they had access to other vasodialators, such as nitroglycerin. But the Painless Pole's problems were chiefly between his ears. When he woke up he discovered that he was wrongly self-diagnosed or at least totally cured. Note: this occurred before the invention of the 🍆 emoticon, so I will not use it in this comment.
"Viagra was invented in 1989 by British Pfizer scientists Peter Dunn and Albert Wood while they were researching a treatment for high blood pressure and chest pain. "
@@williamdegnan4718 nitroglycerin is the opposite of a vasoconstrictor.
Spanish fly
@@F1083 That's just an irritant.
I find waking up to a hot nurse to be much more effective... uh, purely theoretically. Call it an informed opinion.
The TV series finale was the only time we convinced a teacher to put off a test by another day, because we said no one would be studying that night, we'd all be watching the MASH finale.
I was preparing for the school musical and had rehearsal. I only saw the last bit of that finale.
During the MASH finale I was washing the dishes and bussing tables at a Dennys. Someone brought in a TV and due to everyone being at home, we had very few interruptions.
Oh that’s a one and done. I’d rather take the test 😭 in hindsight of course.
As a medical professional who has served in the military, MASH is surprisingly accurate.
I used to watch The M.A.S.H. TV series and when I found out that the M.A.S.H. theme songs is called "suicide is painless" and it actually has lyrics and I listen to it I was shocked. And then I finally saw the movie it really makes it all hit home more theme fits the show perfectly.
The lyrics were written by Robert Altman's 14 year old son. They sound just like they were written by a 14 year old.
It's typical of a Robert Altman movie that some things become clearer on a second viewing, such as: Very early in the movie, when Hawkeye and Duke first arrive, they are warned off of trying to score with one particular female officer, but do not hear the actual conversations, so we do not know why. Only much later, when Hot Lips comes to complain to Colonel Blake after the shower incident, do we learn that the colonel is sleeping with that officer - a fact which also explains why he told her that an item he recently acquired was "sent to him," quickly restarting his sentence in order not to say that his wife sent it to him.
Ashleigh. There are movies I love that didn't work for you. Conversely, there were 5 star movies for you that left me looking for the 40 minutes I didn't enjoy. My point is, as individuals, some things rock our world, some are a rock to the head. Never apologize for your honest opinion of what you like. I think I speak for all of us who watch your channel, we'd rather have your honesty than bowing to a perceived pressure to like something that a bunch of people like just because they are a bunch and you are one. Keep being refreshing and honest. That's what we love. Dolly would agree.
Excellent comment. That is totally true. We like different things.
Well said .... completely agree ...
Hear, hear!
THIS.
AMEN
Robert Altman encouraged the cast to improvise. He put microphones on every actor including the background players and shot the movie in a wide angle lense so he could zoom in on anyone so the actors made sure to converse in character at all times
One of the improvisers can be seen at the river discussing Hot Lips: Carl Gottlieb, who later co-wrote the screenplay for "Jaws."
Not a fishing lure, he's typing flies as in fly fishing. You wrap thread, tie knots, affix feathers and the like to a fishook and wrap it up. Ends up looking like nymph or black fly, etc. The patience and focus on tying flies is similar to surgical stitching and would ensure you maintained your fine motor skills.
I would think Ashleigh, being a southerner, would know a little something like that.
@@JL-sm6cg nah, she's a modern liberal. I bet she could name all the genders before knowing what fly fishing is.
One thing you have to know about doctors and nurses. We can talk about blood and body fluids and other stuff while we’re eating. It’s just shop talk for us. 🤣
Cracks me up every time Ashleigh watches a movie, laughs and is completely engaged and having fun, then gives it a low score at the end.
She's in way over her head watching films, from different periods, and her woke compass is thrown out of sync. If one of her present day sacred cows are mentioned, she gets confused, and has to figure a woke exit from the confusion.
She is from a generation that is afraid to like edgy things and scenes that create dialogue. I hate to say it, but one corner of the industry is ruining it for the rest of us. I'm a Liberal, and even I am fed up with the checkbox morality plots of modern media.
MASH was very controversial at the time. It was the first movie to actually show surgery, blood and guts in the operating room. Government higher ups didn't want the public to see all that, in fear that it would turn the public against the war.
Just to be clear about which war we are speaking of, even though the war in the film is the Korean War, the movie was a thinly disguised Vietnam
war protest picture.
If I remember correctly it was also the first mainstream film (or one of the first) to include the word Fuck, the new MPAA rating system being introduced shortly before.
And not for nothing; as the increased televised coverage of the Vietnam War - the first war to have that level of coverage - is said to have contributed to the war having far less public support than past wars; on account of the realities of the war being beamed to everyone's homes on a regular basis.
@@LaBlueStateGirl Ya the Studio forced them to say Korean War.
Specifically, the Vietnam War, although the film is set during the Korean War.
MASH used to often come on after Saturday morning cartoons. As soon as that music started it was the que to shut off the TV play. Then I decided to watch an episode when I was older and ended up watching every episode. MASH has some of the best and funniest writing of any show.
I was born in the mid-60s. I was grew up on the show in the 70s didn't see the movie until the 90s. If you were around in the 70s you watched M.A.S.H. Alan Alda and Wayne Rogers will always feel like the real Hawkeye and Trapper.
M*A*S*H right after cartoons? Where I lived, it was sports that signaled the end of the cartoon run. Must have been a regional thing. What I personally recall was that CBS, the network that aired the series first run would, during the late 70s, play an additional episode once a week during the 11 PM or midnight hour. I somehow got it in my mind (O was in my mid teens at that time) those were somehow unexpurgated or "uncut" episodes with more adult content. Much later I learned that, nope, just the same content, just an extra airing in an era when "marathon" broadcasts of a specific show were just...well, they just didn't exist!
IT WAS A BABY!
You and I are of similar age my friend! I grew up hating that song for that reason LOL
We always got RAT PATROL after cartoons. I loved that show.
This is before the sitcom and it’s set in the Korean War and the Acronym of M*A*S*H is Mobile Army Surgical Hospital! And god bless Walter Eugene “Radar” O’Reilly
Mobile Army Surgical Hospital, allowing them to quickly move to where they were needed.
Elliot Gould (McIntyre, with the moustache) was in Friends.
Donald Sutherland (Hawkeye, was wearing the metal rimmed glasses). You must watch the TV series.
Really? For the longest time I thought it meant Mobile American Slaughter House.
@NY4Life i saw this after i grew up with the original T.V series so i kept expecting a laugh track at certain scenes lol! 🤣
alright wars not funny i'll work on some new material .
@@harveylee51 we didn't have the laughter track here in the UK and having a few of the DVDs it sounds strange with the laughter track
My husband was a military man for 26 years and has never had a drop of alcohol. He even went through ROTC. Remember, before these men were drafted, they were civilian doctors, living nice lives in the suburbs, with their 2.5 children, a nice set of golf clubs and a well stocked bar in their living room. Of course they enjoy martinis.
Yeah, the character wiki states that most of the doctors were privately educated and came from the likes of Dartmouth and Harvard with flying colours so they likely expected to live cushy middle-class lives, instead they were drafted to hell. It's no wonder Trapper arrives with a jar of olives in his coat, Korea wasn't going to stop them enjoying the finer things in life. 🤣
What is important about this movie is that it created a new style of film making that became prevalent in the 1970's. Of course it created one of the biggest TV shows ever. The final episode is one of the most watched TV shows ever and was watched by as many people that watched the Super Bowl.
42:05 "Who died?!" It was Ho-John. It's what's left of a deleted subplot where Ho-John ends up as a patient by getting shot in battle. The body on the Jeep is his.
Robert Altman was a revered late-20th century director; his specialty was naturalistic lighting & photography with overlapping dialogue, most of it improvised. MASH put him on the map, but some of his best stuff is NASHVILLE, SHORT CUTS, and THE PLAYER.
Funny note about Sutherland: Altman's style was so radical in 1969 that people thought him incompetent. Both Sutherland and Elliot Gould (Trapper) tried to get him fired behind his back. After the movie became a hit, Gould owned up to it but Sutherland didn't. Gould worked with Altman regularly for the rest of Altman's life. Altman never hired Sutherland again.
"The Bickersons" was a very popular radio program with Don Ameche and Francis Langford about a constantly-fighting married couple.
If it makes you feel better, real M*A*S*H veterans have said no camp would ever treat their head nurse the way they treat Hot Lips. A head nurse was the second-most important person in the camp next to the supply clerk because she kept everything running smoothly. The whole thing with Hot Lips is that she was a"regular-Army"--she was Establishment, not a draftee, so she was by the book, while everybody else is a civilian trying to get through the day. MASH is an anti-Establishment film so all the heroes are scoundrels and the villains are clean-cut authority figures--so Hot Lips is a "villain" until she lightens up.
Wouldn't every Head nurse, and all the nurse for that matter be 'regular' army as they had to volunteer? Did the military continue to draft doctors after the Korean War, or had they made the benefits enough that the had enough volunteers, did they draft the doctors because the military had been drastically reduced after the conclusion of the second world war?
@@PeteOtton I think Hot Lips is an anomaly of sorts. She says she thinks of the Army as her home, so she's likely a career woman who never planned to do anything else. Notice how officious and formal she is compared to everybody else--she may be from a military family and never learned how to socialize with regular civilians. When she finally does learn to cut loose, she's awkward and overzealous because she doesn't know how to be a normal person.
Keep in mind also that Hawkeye is a captain but he was drafted, so if it happens to doctors, it must have happened to nurses as well. Spearchucker is a neurosurgeon but was going pro football until he was drafted so this keeps happening.
As far as after Korea I don't know. I do know that Vietnam was different because by then, the socioeconomics of the US had changed. The White House was worried about losing voting ground to a massive middle-class who didn't want to lose their children in a new war. It's part of the reason Project 100,000 went into effect. I also know that one way people could stay out of the draft was to stay in college and pursue high degrees. Afterward, it may have depended on how necessary you would be and doctors would be very important to the military in wartime.
@@Theomite Nurses and all other female personnel were all volunteers. The US never drafted women. Also doctors were brought in as captains or higher.
I'm pretty sure that no woman, nurse or not, was ever drafted in the U.S.. -in the U.S.S.R. during the Great Patriotic War, certainly, something the Germans wouldn't, for ideological reasons-they were trying to make Germany great again with traditional values!-do, they didn't even release men to fight by hiring women to do war-work until it was too late
Trapper John, the "mustache guy", was played by Elliot Gould who is Barbra Streisand's ex-husband and father of her son Jason Gould.
Forget them He is Monica and Ross's Father. A hole generation know him as only that. I was around in the 70s he was a big movie star. He also hosted SNL many times in the 70s with the Classic Cast. My favorite Elliot Gould movie is Capricorn One.
Ocean's. Ruben who is kitsch in person
@@reesebn38 I was letting Ashleigh know about them. She is a Barbra Streisand fan.
Painless was, err... was the best 'equipped' dentist in the army and the others would stare at his junk in shower because it was so big.
Also, this is an emergency treatment hospital - fast & dirty "meatball" surgery to save lives before shipping the wounded back to other hospitals to finish up treatment. Big stitches take less time. The goal was to get the wounded on & off the surgical tables as fast as possible. This was one of the mobile hospitals that moved to follow the battle - often only a mile or so from the front lines for quick treatment to save the wounded lives before shipping them elsewhere
Also- big stitches leave bigger scars. The wounded was an enlisted soldier, and the doctors gave him a big scar so he could show it off later. Presumably to get girls.
'Yeah, just got back from Korea. Wanna see my scar?'
He asked if he was an officer or enlisted man. Officers get small stitches. Enlisted men get big stitches. (RHIP)
My Dad was a Dental Tech in the Navy in the 70's and everyone called him Painless because of this movie.
@@ruthsaunders9507 Thats not why lol just kidding.
Fun Fact the series finally of the show titled Goodbye, Farewell, and Amen had more viewers than the Superbowl of that year. You would like the show itself more than the movie I recommend watching it on your own time because it's got like 11 seasons.
Same!
I once had a nice conversation with Tom Skerritt and I asked which film did he have the most fun acting in and he said "without a doubt, MASH.
He said it was a nonstop kegger LOL!" When I asked which was the most important to him, he said ALIEN. Super nice guy.
ALIEN's a good movie but, important? I wonder what he saw in it?
@@odysseusrex5908 Probably the most important for his career.
A little trivia: Roger Bowen who played Henry Blake in the film and McLean Stevenson who played him in the TV show died a day apart.
I lived about 90 miles west of Detroit, and I remember seeing Rodger Bowen in several Highland Appliance commercials when I was a kid.
@@kevinpogue7294 I used to work in advertising. I hired Roger Bowen several times to play humorous characters in radio commercials. He was always a pleasure to work with and quite funny. I also did a multiple hour session with Sally Kellerman (Hot Lips) to do voiceover work for many tv and radio ads. She was very unusual.
Bowen played a great twit in the TV comedy "Arnie".
In the film, Blake is wonderfully checked-out, he's obviously coping by doing as little work as possible, staying drunk, and ignoring the war as much as he can.
In case you didn’t know, they didn’t have regular milk. They had powdered milk, which means you had to add water to it to reconstitute it.
I could imagine the 4077th arranging to get proper milk from a local village. If the doctor's can get their hands on Martini they aren't going to stand for powdered milk.
So when they're talking about "Painless" being the best equipped dentist in the Korean Theatre of Operations. They're not talking about his dentistry equipment, they're talking about his block and tackle so to speak. Which is why Lieutenant Dish looked so happy, when she was in the helicopter going home.
Also I can't recall if you've seen him in anything else. But Frank Burns was played by Robert Duvall (most famous for playing Tom Hagen in The Godfather).
Doctor Jekyll and Mister Hyde was originally a book, written by Scottish author Robert Louis Stevenson. Who also wrote the book Treasure Island. There have been multiple movie, tv show and even a Broadway Musical adaptions of Doctor Jekyll and Mister Hyde. (There's even been an Abbott and Costello meet Doctor Jekyll and Mister Hyde). Any of the movie versions would make a great reaction for Hallowbeans.
Also Ho-Jon wasn't using drugs, at least not in the way you're thinking. Hawkeye and the gang, gave him a drug to increase his heart rate and blood pressure. So he'd fail the medical evaluation and not get drafted into the South Korean Army. The problem is the Army doctor who examined him saw through the ruse. There was a subplot in the original script that involved Ho-Jon showing up at the M.A.S.H. Camp wounded after being drafted and dying on their operating table. But it was cut, the footage was used though and re-dubbed. So that the man they're operating on, is a North Korean P.O.W.
that bit about ho-jon showing up wounded is also not in the book IIRC. it's been awhile since I've read it though.
@@this.is.a.username I wouldn't know, since I've never had the opportunity to read the book.
@@phillipribbink6903 In the book, Ho-Jon survives and they manage to raise money to send him to the States.
It's why Radar goes out of his way to find blood by any means necessary, the blood was for Ho-Jon, though as you say they chose to alter the story.
@@phillipribbink6903 it's actually a really short book, and you get a bit more of what happens after hawkeye leaves the 4077 and heads stateside, i recommend it. go pick it up.
I knew a phycician who was in Korea in a forward aid station. He got the silver star and a letter of reprimand for treating civilian refugees.. He had them mounted side by side on his living room wall.
'So shines a good deed in a naughty world.'
"My God they've shot him"
"Margaret you incredible nincompoop, it's the end of the quarter"
😂😂
TMI Warning
My mother was a nurse in a MASH unit in Korea. My dad was a medic attached to his infantry unit, the 15th Infantry Regiment of the U.S. Army. Mom never said how they met, but, since they married at Fort Sam Houston, I'm going to assume it was there. Then again, maybe it was through their duties in Korea. Who knows? Unfortunately, they separated when I was 4, so I didn't get to grow up with my dad.
This movie has two Star Trek actors in it...
Father Mulcahy - René Auberjonois played Odo in Star Trek: Deep Space Nine & Colonel West in Star Trek VI: the Undiscovered country.
&
Major "Hot Lips" Houlihan.-Sally Kellerman played Dr Elizabeth Dehner in Star Trek (TOS) Where No Man Has Gone Before
There’s a third… Painless, played by John Schuck, played the Klingon Ambassador to the Federation in Star Trek’s IV and VI.
Except with Hot Lips, it's Where Every Man Has Gone Before.
@@johnnygood4831 not funny...
Okay, a little bit funny.
Fun fact, Rene Auberjenois is descended from Marshal Murat and Napoleon's sister, Caroline.
@@AaronButton And a 4th - Fred Williams (Dr. "Spearchucker" Jones) was in an episode (The Cloud Minders) of TOS
MASH=Mobile Army Surgical Hospital.
There were a couple episodes of the tv series where they had to “bug out”- pack up the camp quickly and move to a new location.
I highly recommend checking out the tv series. The first few seasons were the best.
No lie I have seen every episode about 5 times. some many more than that. Still the high water mark for a television comedy.
I liked it when potter became c.o.
In the first two years, Col. Potter would have been a villain chucked-out with hijinx and Col. Blake brought back.
The football games were intense in Korea, mostly because if you got injured during the game you still got points that would get you home, and got out of combat duty until you were healed.
Interesting fact is that when the series aired in the UK on the BBC, it was played without a laughter track. It was required viewing for millions. I tried to watch an episode on a commercial channel many years later with the laughter track included and turned it off because it just cheapened the whole experience.
My Favorite & THE BEST ROLE he has ever played,, Donald Sutherland as "Oddball" in "Kelly's Heros" (1970) A MUST SEE Classic Movie. 🔥❤️🔥
He is pretty good in "Max Dugan Returns", "Klute" "The Hunger Games", and about 100 more--How can you determine "The Best!"
I liked his role in The Great Train Robbery. I recommend it if you haven't seen.
At 18:32, "dilatation and curettage" is a surgical procedure of widening the cervix and scraping out the uterine lining with a sharpened loop (curette). He's making a crass joke that Burns is all up in O'Houlihan's business.
Before Roe v Wade an abortion was officially known as a D & C. I guess we are back there again. Also the movie is heavy in the chauvinistic behavior of surgeons. Everything that Women's Lib was against. It's just a big satire. You have to know the social norms of the day that they are making fun of.
A D&C could be needed for other reasons, but yes, in my 1950s, neighbourhood a lot of women evidently suddenly needed a D&C and everybody knew not to ask questions.
(Though all Italuan-American, they also avoided Catholic hospitals because pre-{Vatican 2} the doctrine of the damnation of infants who died before baptism led some such institutions to prefer the foetus' life to the mother's in the case of a difficult birth. I guess we've come a long way since then…haven't we?)
The men's attitude toward women was pretty much accurate for 1950 and 1970 both…a lot of early feminists in the latter year got there by seeing how badly _lefty_ men in The Movements treated them. (They _expected_ it from the Right.)
RIP Donald Sutherland
Alan Alda who played Hawkeye in the TV version said that a big difference between the movie and TV show was that the surgeons were very serious when it came to operating in the TV show. They may have joked while they worked but the patients came first.
My father (Royal Artillery) received treatment for a head injury in a US Military Hospital and said later that M*A*S*H was a pretty accurate reflection of what he remembered it being like. After treatment there he spent two weeks in Tokyo where a couple of American aircrew taught him a card game called "poker" so he bought a Rolex to keep his winnings portable. I gave that watch to one of my sons as a birthday present earlier this year.
This is one of those rare films where the movie is better than the book.
and the TV show is better than the movie (see also Buffy TVS)
I beg to disagree: the TV show was too often sappy and morally simple. Based on my father's military experiences as related to me decades later, the movie's 'War turns _everyone_ into a jerk.' message also seems more accurate.
Honestly, I do not fault your rating at all. For one thing, I think this movie is very centered in a particular time and place that simply no longer resonates. Released in 1970, at the height of the US's involvement in the Vietnam War, set in the Korean War as a stand-in, this movie and later the show was speaking directly to the futility and senselessness many Americans felt about these wars we'd gotten ourselves embroiled in. For another thing, while the TV show didn't necessarily shy away from calling out that senselessness, it also was much more comedy-oriented than the movie. And the show was on TV for so many years I get the sense that it eclipsed the movie in the popular imagination of what MASH was, so it's thought of as more of a comedy than it actually is. Though, I was VERY young at the time, so take that musing with a grain of salt, as I could be wrong about that. I remember being a big fan of the TV show and then going back and watching the movie later and being frankly disappointed by it.
Anyway, I voted for Invasion of the Body Snatchers in the poll, and I do hope you get to it eventually (perhaps, indeed, for Hallowbeans) - it's an excellent film and much more entertaining than this one, IMO.
The Director has said it was completely about the Vietnam War but was forced by the Studio to not point at the Nam War. The film was groundbreaking at the time. It really is the first R-Rated Raunchy Comedy.
Very much the same experience for me. I started watching the TV series in the latter 70s (shortly after my father's death and I move in with my grandmother, when I was in my mid teens). I did not see the movie until it played on HBO (so around 1980 as that was when I got the service). I expected the "comparatively" lighter atmosphere of the series and instead experienced a grim and scathing (though well made) satire. I was not really disappointed, understanding a film could "get away" with a lot more, but it was a "very different animal". Even as a "kid", I noted, "Oh! the song has lyrics! And I can see why they don't play on TV!"
Yeah. Didn’t age well at all lol
Seeing Bud Cort in the film made me wonder - what would Ashleigh think of Harold and Maude, which also has a great cameo from Tom Skerrit.
Great movie.
I think it'd be worth finding out. She might find it too weird. She might absolutely love it. Let's see.
Good call! But I think she has issues with complicated films like that or MASH that are also of a certain era's values. I've noticed that the millenial reactors need to be judgemental a lot about past eras. Like if I were to watch one of the old Cagney/Bogart gangster flicks & constantly comment how I don't like gun violence, etc.. But Harold & Maude is a good idea.
@@jefffinn1105 My thoughts too. I guess that films like “The Loved One” or Slaughterhouse Five” are right out. 😂
@@jefffinn1105 "Consistency is not really a human trait." She might surprise us. And I think she'll love the pitch black humor in it.
Okay, a LOT to help unpack.
As you found out, M*A*S*H stands for Mobile Army Surgical Hospital. The M*A*S*H units were a big experiment during the Korean war. The concept was to have the primary emergency care units as close to the fighting as possible for rapid/immediate care. They were around 3-4 miles from the actual fighting. The front changed positions, THEY changed positions (hence the MOBILE part of the acronym). And, as you found out at the end, Donald Sutherland was the goofy looking scarecrow guy who was on the screen, pretty much, the entire movie.
The studio had Donald Sutherland and Elliot Gould signed on BEFORE having a director (went through 13 before finding one crazy enough to take on the task). By the third day of actual filming, the two aforementioned lead actors decided to approach the producers with a request to have said director removed, fearing for the future of their careers. This meeting was PRECEDED by one with the director making a similar request (for different reasons) about the two lead actors. Obviously BOTH requests were heard and ignored and everyone was asked to get along and play nice and just ride it out.
Between the "gore", the language, and the (very few) nude shots (mainly "Hot Lips'" ever famous shower scene), The movie VERY NEARLY got an "X" rating from the censors. This movie, remember was made in 1970. These days, a lot of that stuff can be shown on Disney Kids without much fear. Although this movie is set during the Korean war, the director didn't let the word "Korea" be said during the entire movie, other than the written quotes at the very beginning from Douglas MacArthur and Dwight D. Eisenhauer. Due to the time period, this caused a lot of audiences to parallel what they were watching with the Vietnam war that was currently (at the time) raging, and the director WANTED it that way. He got it past the studio by being WAY under budget (if you noticed in the opening credits, about 80% of the cast was "introduced" in this movie) and keeping STRICTLY to the studio's timetable.
The shower scene took about 8 takes to actually film. What was supposed to be a complete surprise for "Hot Lips" was in the script; so, every time that tent flap so much as ruffled, Sally Kellerman (the actress) would immediately follow her first gut-instinct - HIDE (as would be normal for ANYONE). The director begged her to try and hold her pose for even a brief second and she just couldn't do it. Finally, Gary Burghoff (Radar) got a brilliant idea. He and the director got up on a hill across from the tent where they could be right in Sally's line of sight when that tent fell. So the scene starts, the tent falls, and the very first thing Sally Kellerman sees is Gary and the director standing across from her on a hill... with their pants down. This caused her to pause JUST ENOUGH to get the shot.
No, they didn't give "Painless" Viagra. Nor did they insinuate that anything even resembling it was used. IN FACT they don't mention, one way or the other, WHAT the "Black Pill" was. And, while Viagra DIDN'T exist in the 50's, hormone shots (that could do the same basic thing) DID.
Rene Auberjonois (Father Mulcahy) ad-libbed the "blessing of the jeep" at the end before Donald Sutherland and Tom Skerritt puttered away into the sunset.
I'm not gonna give you crap about your low rating. I DO get it, I think. A lot of the surgery scenes were a lot to deal with. They were a HELLUVA lot in 1970 (didn't see surgical scenes like that before anywhere). And, really, not everything is great for everybody. My siblings and I were practically raised on the show (one of my dad's all-time faves). I LOVED it (one of the only things my dad and I could bond over), my younger brother was kinda indifferent to it (something to watch before the big football game), and my older sister HATED it. She only watched THIS movie ONCE... less than half-way (I don't think she even made it as far as Frank Burns' departure). At least it looked like you enjoyed yourself for quite a bit of it, though. All good.
Growing up during the Vietnam War era I can tell you this theme song stresses out a lot of people including myself. Even though the tv series based on the movie doesn't use the lyrics it still doesn't help.
Hope you feel better soon
I was in the military for 26 years. Drank as much as I could for the first 16, and then nothing for the last 10. Hangovers get harder to recover from after you turn 30. Keep that in mind
Fun fact: Almost none of what you see onscreen was in the script. The movie was entirely improvised. (Ring Lardner Jr., the scriptwriter, was super pissed when he saw it.) This became Robert Altman's style, taking a script and letting his actors embroider and improvise on it. It's why his films tend to sound so much like the way people really talk and behave.
Another fun fact: The loudspeaker was also not in the script. After shooting the film, Altman had the task of pulling together hundreds of hours of chaotic mayhem into an actual movie. He finally hit on the idea of the loudspeaker as a kind of through-line to keep everything moving. The lines spoken through it are all taken from real announcements made in MASH units.
P.S. Dilation and curretage is the technical term for a surgical abortion, which was the only kind available back then. Thus Hawkeye's snarky reference while they were listening to Frank and Hot Lips going at it.
For anyone who hasn't watched the series, or it has been a long time since you have, I HIGHLY recommend tracking down the DVD sets vs streaming, as you get the original aspect ratio without things cropped out.
And MOST importantly you get it with NO laugh track, the creators wanted that for the original airing but the network insisted, they compromised and as aired it kept the laughs out of the OR.
For the DVD they added an alternate audio track without.
After reaching the agreement for no laugh tracks in the OR, the writers started writing all episodes in the OR until the laugh track was completely dropped.
@@SethBrower I highly recommend it without the laugh track
@@SethBrower I highly recommend it without the laugh track
@@stephenolan5539 I still find it amusing that if your watching them all without the laughs, and you get to one of the few clipshows ... due to the nature of how it was made the clips have the laughs baked in.
The problem with the no-laughtrack version is, they were filmed with a laughtrack in mind so, when it’s removed, you end up with awkward silences after the jokes. Even worse than the laughtrack.
MASH should be your next midweek tv show
This is one of those movies that are more powerful in its time. The audiences at the time “got” this movie. It was a huge success,
Jo Ann Pflug (Lt. Dish) was married to game show host Chuck Woolery for eight years. Woolery was the original host of Wheel of Fortune (he was replaced by Pat Zajak).
It is based on true stories of surgeons from Korea. The interesting thing when reading the original novel is understanding that the doctors and nurses were so young - most were under 30. The book has even more obscene pranks. Pulling outrageous pranks and hooking up seem to be necessary life affirming activities surrounded by unrelenting death. Robert Altman intended this movie to be a criticism of the Vietnam War that was currently raging when he filmed. So, actually MASH is the first Vietnam movie and not Apocalypse Now. 20th Century Fox made Altman add the introductory text about Korea because Korea is never mentioned in the film. It is obviously Korea, but the suits were worried that people would think it was about Vietnam.
"So, actually MASH is the first Vietnam movie and not Apocalypse " Actually the Deer Hunter came out a year before Apocalypse. If you want to include less successful/smaller budget movies there were a few. The Green Beret's, though basically pro war propaganda, was technically a Vietnam War movie as well.
@@bg7893 Didn't Deer Hunter come out eight years later in 1978?
@@ToNowHereShow Apocalypse Now came out in 1979. The Deer Hunter in 1978. Green Berets in 1968.
Thus Korea is often called The Forgotten War. Thankfully Dad; USAF Military Analyst and cold warrior, missed going off to Korea because he was ROTC in college and they wanted him to finish his education. He later went to Nam early enough to be able to come home to us; whole in body but disillusioned in spirit. A side affect of that was he would never watch any movie set in Vietnam. He told us that no matter how well made or well intended they were, the filmmakers would still get it wrong. And yet he remained in the Air Force until the mid 70s, but his work as a systems manager in the private sector was often DOD jobs. Go figure. RIP Retired Major Wallace Zimmerman(of beloved memory) And this is a great movie. 😎
The book had Trapper John on a cross being flown around in a helicopter.
You may recognize Frank Burns from another movie. He was Tom Hagen in the Godfather. MASH was an anti-war film at the height of the Vietnam War. The how did a degenerate like that get into the army part got an ovation in the theaters because the draft was so unpopular.
Trivia: the director’s son wrote the lyrics to the theme in 15 minutes. Even though it’s not heard in the TV SHOW he still gets paid!
Add to the trivia: because of the royalties from the song, he made more than his dad did from the movie.
My Grandfather was a 20 year Navy veteran and served in both Korea and Vietnam. He hated the MASH TV show because he said it reminded him of the doctors he met. Most of them were drafted and acted unprofessional. According to him the show was an accurate representation of the shenanigans that occurred. He was 18 years old in 1952, Graduated early in December and enlisted. He spent a few weeks in boot camp and then 5 months in Korea patrolling until the armistice and then aided in evacuations for the remainder of his deployment. He retired from the Navy in 1973 as a Lieutenant. He served 3 tours in Vietnam and was involved in the Gulf of Tonkin incident that started that war. His ship was damaged and had to be towed. We have a picture of him holding a piece of shrapnel from a rocket that hit the mess hall on the ship. They offloaded the crew in the Philippines and the ship was towed to San Francisco before getting repaired. During that time he was reassigned to search and rescue of downed airmen in the gulf during the initial air raids before the ground invasion.
My Dad was such a huge fan of the original book by Richard Hooker, and then he was also MASSIVE Robert Altman fan, so he let me watch this movie when I was TOTALLY too young...like 7 or 8 years old. LOL It took me a long time to truly understand what the nickname "Hot Lips" REALLY referred to. 😜😁
And of course MASH became one of the most successful TV shows in Network history, 11 seasons 256 episodes & winning 14 Emmys with a final episode that attracted over 120 million viewers.
It is a comedy set during the Korean War, but that was just really a cover because everyone knew it was representing Vietnam
I can still remember watching that last episode..
Well, I was a kid and I didn't know it was about Vietnam, I thought it was about Korea
not to mention an Atari 2600 Game!
Frank and Margaret were hilarious in the show - the regular army stiffs.
As a Xennial, M*A*S*H and/or Soul Train signified that cartoons or kid's shows were over for the day.
The director's son wrote the lyrics to the song "Suicide is Painless".
This film was based on a book "MASH: A Novel About Three Army Doctors, was written by Richard Hooker,"
The author wrote it under a pseudonym.
The real authors were H. Richard Hornberger and W. C. Heinz
Hornberger was a surgeon at the 8055th Mobile Army Surgical Hospital in Korea during the Korean War.
So it's hard to say how much of it is exaggerated in the movie.
Meatball surgery gives you all the blood and guts of war with people who became doctors and nurses to help people heal.
It's got to be a special kind of hell.
Doctors weren't a dime a dozen so they couldn't just be sent back home if they had mental issues developed in the course of their work. They could get away with odd behavior. To some extent.
The one thing that not a lot of people realize is this movie came out during the Vietnam War and was an Anti-War movie set in Korea.
The film followed the novel it's based on fairly closely, and it was about drafted doctors in the Korean War... And "MASH" stood for "Mobile Army Surgical Hospital"...
Donald Sutherland's best role is in Kelly's Heroes (1970). A fantastic movie.
It's a smaller role, but he's also brilliantly creepy in Backdraft (1991).
I'd say Fellini's "Casanova", but that may be entirely out of place.
Invasion of the Body Snatchers (1978) is really good
and Eastwood
I thought his best roles were Invasion of the Body Snatchers and Eye of the Needle.
I can't watch the Henry or Radar episodes without weeping like a little girl. Those who know the show know the two episodes.
Radar comes shuffling in and tells in a choked voice the colonel's plane was shot down over the see of Japan and the entire OR is crying. Yup, that episode
That naked shower scene with Sally Kellerman is so iconic . . .
Jekel and Hyde is a novel. Dr Jekel develops a potion that unleashes his inner, more powerful/aggressive persona called Mr Hyde. The Incredible Hulk is based on it.
The book is by Robert Louis Stevenson and is a metaphor for drug addiction.
M*A*S*H. Mobile Army Sergical Hospital. It was an emergency unit set up three miles behind the front lines, where the doctors jobs were to stabilize wounded soldiers until they could be medivaced to a proper hospital facility. The whole MASH facility, could be set up, or collapsed and moved, as needed within about 48 hours, as needed. Hence, the Mobile part of it.
And yet the TV series gave the impression the hospital was seemingly "stationary" except in a few rare instances when they had to "BUG OUT!!!" At least, that's what I personally inferred while watching as a mid teen.
@@Redfern42 During a large portion of the Korean War, the lines were fairly static, I think even during the period the author was in Korea he maybe bugged out once.
Been a long time since I saw the movie, but from what I remember, Hot Lips was making the nurses' lives hell too, which is why they had no sympathy for her when the shower prank happened.
Nominated for 5 Oscars, including Best Picture and Director- Robert Altman, screenplay, editing and supporting actress- Sally Kellerman- 'Hot Lips'. It's only win was for screenplay- Ring Lardner, Jr. Ring won another Oscar in the 40s- for Tracey/Hepburn film- "woman of the Year' (See it!!), then was Blacklisted in the 50s- MASH was sort of a comeback
It was a sleeping pill and as they said he was the best equipped dentist in the army.
Also, the show and I assume the novel, show more of why Frank and Margaret are disliked. Frank is an incompetent doctor and granted the shower prank was too far, but early on Margaret is very strict with the doctors and her nurses.
Ashleigh as a veteran and a member of the medical field you'd be surprised some of the things we do and say and references we make up. And yes when people have weird names we usually give them even weirder nicknames. I'm sorry that you did not give this a higher rating I guess you have to come from that generation to enjoy it. And this was actually a protest movie against Vietnam. But thank you for watching it finally.