My Hatred For Modern User Interfaces Is Infinite - Rollin' Rambles - Jody Bruchon Tech
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My dude. I have felt this for so long. My message to modern app developers is: YOU ARE NOT CLEVER! and you are NOT smarter than people that already spent thousands of hours designing it! STOP THINKING YOU ARE CLEVER!
Modern app developers also sneak in unnecessary changes just so you can work on getting used to the garbage factor.
Just when you get used to something and maybe even feel okayish about it, they change it on you.
One of the best pieces of advice I ever heard. "Use the tools you know, so you can get the job done". I will add learning something new only wastes valuable time.
I've used that advice for decades, I've been a draftsman for nearly 30 years. I've used Autocad the whole time. But I stopped upgrading, because the GuiE changed to a point where it's too much of a hassle. I once saw on a forum, kids chastising some guy because he asked about configuring the latest(then) version of Autocad, to use the old aliases(controls/menus). I find it crazy for those kids to think there time is that valueless. But that's the world we live in. I remember a day when computers were increasing productivity, and the software guys understood that. Not anymore, the latest and greatest isn't they way to go anymore. I do like that my computers and software are now far cheaper. Relatively speaking.
Yep. I’ve been accused of being a racist, a Boomer, a bigot, a bad person for simply saying older machines did a better job.
You briefly mentioned this in your video on how gaming and tech were destroyed. Websites now have hamburger menus. Forbes has an absolutely awful design.
Everything seems to be migrating towards using mobile phone-style UI, regardless of how much worse it makes things! Instead of incorporating more of the sensible desktop interface to ever more powerful phones and tablets, they're dumbing down everything everywhere...
@@EilonwyWanderer The funny thing is, I stumbled across some vintage video footage regarding civil rights when I was researching some history on the internet. This group of young people from the early 1960s, despite not being college educated, were far more articulate, and could form opinions that people today would regard as English post graduates.
No, these were people with a normal highschool education. Our vocabulary has been severely dumbed down and our usage of English words is drastically lacking.
Computers are now the dumb device and the Photos app on most smartphones is just a place to throw on photos you made with no rhyme or reason. Folders? The average person doesn’t know they exist.
@@KratostheThird oh good grief, the flattening of file systems! That one really drives me crazy; I carefully organize my documents and pictures and whatnot in folders and sub-folders, but if I want to attach a photo to a message I'm sending on my phone... *at best* I get the option to sort every single image by most or least recent.
What if the photo was one I took or downloaded several months ago? Guess I gotta cancel out of the attachment screen, open a search, and hope I can recall the exact file name!
Whereas if I just had a view of my filesystem in a tree, I could navigate to, say, ~/reactions/funny/yes/ and scroll down through the handful that I use most often and it'd be right there.
@@EilonwyWanderer When you want to experiment or be more specific, we get punished.
Casual users, in contrast, aren’t concerned with the files & folders hierarchy.
@@KratostheThird I get that "causal users" aren't concerned; I think that's a problem. It's like saying that causal drivers aren't concerned with oil levels or what the numbers on the speedometer mean -- stuff that should be pretty basic if you're someone who owns and uses a car! The big difference is, drivers haven't been told over and over that they don't let to understand any of that "confusing" and "complex" information 😂
Regarding XP users wanting Vista kernel improvements without vista, this is where I find myself right now with Windows 10. Give me the 11 kernel improvements without giving me 11. Also revert all settings back to a 7-like control panel. I also have Windowblinds and a skin to give me the 7 Aero look. The problem with that is not all programs are compatible. Some (especially most browsers) absolutely feel the need to have their own custom titlebars I can't edit. So much for uniformity. Luckily you can undo that with firefox based browsers, at the bottom of the window in customize mode.
Firefox based browsers are what I use now.
@@KratostheThird Same here. It took me a while to move away from Brave (Chrome based). The uncertain future of how Brave will handle Manifest 3.0, made me decide to switch to Librewolf (Firefox based).
At least they used to give you an option, like in Windows 7. Don't like Aero? There is basic theme, heck there is even good old 90s classic theme. Now you can't even do that anymore, you are forced to just get with the program.
I kind of understood the forced DWM change but ultimately it was a mistake. The basic interface was always faster because it required less compute power. GPU processing is still processing and still takes a non-trivial amount of time to complete.
@@JodyBruchon Can you explain with some words, why was Win7 slower in the GUI? Do you know what changed exactly? I remember I noticed the slow down everywhere, like resizing columns and things, it lagged and I could watch things "render", which was never the case on WinXP (I skipped Vista, can't tell how that compares).
This was not only on my personal PC, I noticed it on every Win7 installation since then. And then some other GUI change came in with Windows8 I guess, where suddenly the theming support was basically gone (nor mor Windows Classic style either), what happened there? A technology change again? Maybe you can give some keywords I can search for to find out what happened.. o) Thank you!
@@ytbone9430 Windows Vista introduced the Desktop Window Manager and the Aero Glass hardware accelerated interface. 7 also had it. If you chose the "Windows Classic" theme, it would not only disable Aero Glass but also the entire Aero interface and fall back to the 2000-style interface. In 8 they forced DWM so no more classic interface option.
The issue is that even though Aero with glass transparency disabled is hardware-accelerated, it still requires time to offload the interface calculations to the video card and wait for it to draw. Classic is extremely simple and takes nearly no resources to draw but Aero has gradients and curves all over the place, and Aero Glass also has transparency with blurring. Acceleration doesn't necessarily mean faster because once we compare Aero to classic there's no way for hardware acceleration of calculating gradients and rounded corners at the minimum to beat drawing a flat box with an outline.
The other issue is that implementing Aero makes the code paths for classic slower. There could be potentially thousands of code branches added to decide "Aero on? If so, send to DWM, else do the old way." Code branches take time and all modern CPUs do branch prediction with speculative execution. A failed prediction causes a pipeline stall which means the CPU completely stops running code while the failed branch work is flushed and the other branch path is reloaded and taken. This is generally why software gets bigger and slower despite most of the code being the same: supporting features requires hooking them into the code, meaning branches that can miss and more cache line evictions due to more code and data to cycle through. Cache misses cause huge performance losses when they occur, so tuning code often comes down to "how can I stop blowing out the caches?"
All that combined makes 7 UI slower than 2000/XP even in classic theme mode.
HA I last year used an old Windows 7 Pro desktop that is in a patient area of a hospital. I was in Nursing. Used it for like 10 minutes, and the old clean system felt so much better than the garbage of todays computers. One day I would love to get a Gateway 2000 with a Pentium II with MMX runnign Windows 98se, and an older one running a Socket 7 with maybe 166/ or so running Windows 3.1 / 3.11 for Workgroups. Just have concers on that old of computers on the age/ condition of the power supplys.
Future videos are planned showing off the old ways!
Sounds weird, but I miss early -late 90's Windows. Windows 3.11-98se with Windows NT 4.0 :)
@@williambaldwin9346 Same. Back then you were encouraged to explore and try new things.
I liked Win 95 as a new user. The HP multimedia PC came with a massive 1.8 Gb inbuilt HD! I also needed a printer and scanner which totalled over $3000
Love listening to your ramblings. 😊 Lots of good inspiration.
I totally agree. It realy pisses me off when Microsoft refuses to listen to people. Only make the changes people want.
When you’re a trillion dollar corporation you don’t need to listen. This is the sad truth. Everything from MS Office to the way Windows 11 looks is trash.
for real though, this is really what most big-name companies really are these days
I am not doing 11. I am moving to linux and building a raspberry pi laptop. No more proprietary trash. I'm done with the garbage of """"modern"""" idiot centric design.
I agree with your sentiments. Your argumentation is solid.
Man, whoever decided to separate Edge tabs into individual alt-tab windows, just to make it more difficult to switch between 2 actual WINDOWS of a browser, should be fired and not allowed to make user interface decisions ever again...
Truly a bullshit reason for this. Each Edge (chromium) tab operates as its own instance, and then they're stitched together in one window after the fact on the taskbar. I'm guessing on this next part but it seems that alt+tab goes by processes cross-referenced against open windows. Windows could 100% fix this, they just don't care, probably because it would take effort that wouldn't result in money like bing-copilot
It doesn't go by process, it goes by application windows and dialogs. Microsoft hijacked the switcher system to show some recent Edge tabs as windows which makes the system far less useful since it's no longer just a window switcher.
@@JodyBruchon oh yeah, it actually is a few recent tabs. That's why my "all of them" felt inconsistent. Thanks for clarifying.
Anything they change would have not been such a problem, had they only allowed the user to return to tried-and-true solutions...
Remember when they used to call them service packs?.. Sigh
Windows 7 had two SPs.
I've actually been wanting to use 7 just for nostalgia, but of course the computer would have to remain offline.
@@PhilipMarcYT Windows 7 had one service pack. Vista had two, XP had three. There were "rollups" that were basically unofficial service packs that packaged all updates since the final service pack into one.
I've left Ubuntu when they stopped using Gnome. I switched to Mint Mate. Those people can't seem to understand the power of familiarity. Change is good. Revolutions are rarely necessary.
Re: the additional clicks needed/lower info density --
As far as I can tell, the sentiment from current UX designers is that users are (and should be) terrified of having any information presented to them, and therefore hiding as much as possible at all times is an unmitigated good.
They're completely wrong, of course, but that does seem to be the mindset they're working from!
And instead of saying "hmm, *if* users are intimidated then we should work on helping to teach users how to operate the system" it's always "nah, they're too stupid to handle it, just hide everything!" It's insulting, it's infantilizing, and it's the opposite of helpful!
The function of space-wasting designs in operating systems & software is to deliberately sabotage the usability of everything & slow people down. It never has anything to do with making anything easier. Even on a cell phone, the same demons who pretend you can only have giant icons to click are fine admitting the keyboard to type on your little cellphone is perfectly useful even though all the buttons are very tiny. Pretending they are trying to help is like pretending '(((Doctor$)))' want 2 inject U with (((Clot $hots))) 2 'Keep U $afe' =P ~> justpaste.it/6e6ny
It takes so much tweaking to make (((Chrome))) web browser usable it's obscene ~>
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I believe Chrome and Edge browsers have also removed the “Forward” button as some kind of aesthetic choice. This is a terrible decision.
Why would you ever go forward?
Since 3.11, I have said that there should be ONE checkbox for "Administrator Defaults" that should be checked by default on any Admin account. These settings should basically be "show me everything all the time". Detailed lists, verbose outputs. As an Admin, your eyes will catch things when everything is always displayed verbose, and you shouldn't have to ask for it when you're already logged in on an Admin account.
I don't see why the start menu needs recommendations at all, even if it was limited to programs that are already installed. If I am opening the start menu, I already know what program I am trying to use and don't need any suggestions.
I love listening to old man yelling at cloud (I also yell at cloud)
I haven't used Windows since NT. I don't miss it at all.
It's almost as if they try to make people waste more time. I wonder if there's a monetary reason behind people wasting more time, so all this can make more sense.
The best UI they ever had was in Windows 2000. In fact, that OS was just about perfect. Now, it's a complete disaster. I have been using linux Mint for the last 7 years. Tired of Microsoft.
That sounds about right, somewhere around 2000 was peak computer UI, they had most of this stuff figured out, but the UX pinheads hadn't yet been allowed to destroy everything. A user interface is supposed to be in the background most of the time. You shouldn't be impressed by it beyond it's ability to not be noticed.
To this day when people ask me how to find certain things in windows 10 or 11 because I use startisback or startallback I can't really help them coz my GUI is basically windows 7 style lol.
Its not only Windows (which I don't use anyway).
I have a hatred of Icons - and most particularly Google's tendency to "update" them every few months.
If we have to learn to use picture to represent ideas, why the hell not make us learn Kanji? at least it has remained (mostly) the same for 4,000 years.
Google seem to find it hard for icons to same for 40 days. Its time to send Google to the Wilderness for "education".
I am old enough to recognise the "floppy disk" icon for save, but would have preferred to stick with the cassette tape icon.
A lot of people who are critical of flat design iconography refer to them (very fairly, in my opinion) as "hieroglyphics." Kanji is a writing system that actually has a certain logic to it; several of the tree Kanji makes the forest one, for example. The monochrome outlines of Windows 10 RTM had no logic at all. I always hated how Groove Music was supposed to be a record playing but also a G, but it ended up looking like neither.
Give me W2kPro UI with current security, compatibility. Don't "do things for me" that I never asked for and only a moron would add- like screenshots every few seconds, etc. Windows is such a turd.
there isn't much excuse for the UX team not to extend the hot region for the back button to the edge of the window, and restore the forward button. however to solve the current problem you can just press backspace to go back in the settings panel, assuming the keyboard is not focused on a text box or other element. another minor point, but a quick way to access the Settings panel in Win11 is Win+X (which brings up the same context menu as right clicking the start menu) and then N or Alt+N, which corresponds to the access key for the Settings entry on that context menu.
Speaking of UI shittiness. Let's take the current windows for example. Remember how easy it was to find the power management menu in previous versions of windows? You know, that menu where you could set how long would it take for your HDD's to stop spinning after being idle, PCI-E power-states, sleep-, hibernation-timers, stuff like that?
Just humour me for a minute, and try finding that menu. The task of finding that menu, made me want to switch to linux, damn the consequences.
WIN+R, powercfg.cpl, edit power plan, advanced settings. But you are correct!
Audis and VWs used to look really good (even if they were still pretty unreliable). They had clean, straight lines and utilitarian proportions that put the interior first. Now they've turned into egg-shaped crossovers and "four-door coupes" like everything else.
Cars in general look ugly now.
I look at 1950s to 1980s/1990s era vehicles and I can’t help but admire the distinct styles and features. Reliability is a different story.
The point is, cars today are ugly, monotone and boring. Case in point, the cyber truck.
You are absolutely right! I completely agree with you that this is just a very terrible, inconvenient, uncomfortable and ugly interface. I also agree about the Windows Kernel, that in Windows Vista the kernel was really greatly updated for the better and in general a lot of fundamentally new things appeared there, and Windows 8, 10, 11 are essentially stupid marketing useless junk collected mostly from old Vista/7 sources, where there is nothing essentially new and significant, a small part of the code was slightly rewritten, several APIs and components were updated, and stupid cosmetic changes, where they constantly change the interface crookedly not completely to an inconvenient, uncomfortable, buggy, poorly optimized crap based on stupid UWP. In fact, Microsoft has made very little progress and fundamentally new good things in Windows for more than 10 years.
You rant so I don't have to 🎉😂
Totally agree, The last few Windows interfaces are GARBAGE, never mind most common software!
No consistency of what is what, not obvious signs of what is clickable, STUPID and CUMBERSOM GUI elements like sliders and scrollers, and my most hated, scroll bars when other much cleaner ways possible (e.g. the replacement of cascading Start menus in WinXP -> Win7 onwards. The removal of 3D effects to make elements of what is what on screen also removed by those MORON GUI designers at M$. Don't get me started on smart phones, media players etc., UTTER CUMBERSOME GARBAGE!!!!!!!!!!!
And most of this 2-D garbage has crossed into Linux, the guys doing the coding were raised on phones.
Never before has so little visual detail used so much processing time.
I call apps by the name appies to further rub in that the name is childish...or I call them programs. Similarly 'ribbon' is 'tabbed toolbars' and 'hamburger button' is 'menu bar button'. The changing/dynamic interfaces as you use a program are almost always a mistake to implement and normally they are worse than burying controls behind tabs/menus/etc. which already has its own disadvantage. I only like to learn a change when it provides me with something: additional capability, more efficient interface, etc.
Open-Shell may help work around 'some' of the undesired general UI changes but not all of them; as a heads up, right clicking start button vs right clicking literal screen corner will give different results with it on win10 & similar. I miss when there were more projects taking on efforts to redesign/improve interfaces for Windows.
For Firefox, tap alt or better press alt+v, choose 'v'iew>'t'oolbars>'m'enubar to fix the hamburger interface issue. I still don't have fixes for other bad UI like an i-beam displayed when next mouseclick selects the textbox instead of inserting cursor (i-beam should be an arrow instead), menus inconsistently putting '...' at end of choices or not despite if another dialog follows the choice, etc.
Ribbon was an easy selling point for a # of family members to use OpenOffice/LibreOffice.
Most developers crippling interface designs fail to remap hotkeys so if you learn hotkeys you usually have a more stable interface you can use while the graphics get altered to no end. Other than pressing keys usually being a faster in general than mouse move+click operations, you often have keys that skip some steps entirely
Netbooks were a mistake, though I made some money for the company I used to work for by making Windows 10 fit with room for updates through a series of configuration/cleanup/optimization/compression steps. Originally had 32GB(=28.6GB-ish) drive have over 20GB free (varies per machine) when Win10 was new but last I tried it was more around 14GB free. The price savings doesn't mean too much once the computer needs upgrades (usually not possible) for modern student tasks or causes errors because the default content+optimization effort couldn't complete a Windows update which automatically consumes much of the remaining space.
Thank you for jdupes. Its not the only duplicate finder I use, but definitely one I always want in my toolset.
The Ribbon isn't a tabbed tool bar, it's far, far worse. Tabs are tabs and they've been with us for decades. Ribbon is a tabbed interface, but it also hides a bunch of stuff that you then have to go hunting for. IIRC, Office XP had a much better design with the smart toolbars. By default, it would hide anything you weren't using, but you could disable that if you wanted to. So, if it wasn't there, you could hide it, and if you hid it, you could unhide all of them to click on before reenabling the setting if you wanted to.
@@SmallSpoonBrigade though yea the toolbar is less bar and more box, the burying part of it is really bad. The 'not recently used, so its hidden' interfaces are dynamic so I'm opposed to them.
Layouts shouldn't change and more importantly shouldn't rise/fall through buried layers. Imagine if a car started swapping pedals around or hiding them just because one wasn't used in the past few minutes; a horrible workflow that would never be tolerated.
I forgot to mention other annoyances:
- Scrollbars becoming sliverbars that are hard to click on, sometimes can't be clicked on, sometimes don't show until scrolling takes place.
- Having to left click on a window's object before a right click can be a right click on that object.
- Ordering a window to open, having it pop up in front of others (even with a cursor), but have it somehow not take focus of the keyboard until clicked on.
@@mirror1766 I really like how Windows lets random auto-start applications grab keyboard focus, especially when it's stealing focus from a password field and now half my password is clearly visible in plaintext.
@@desertdude540 ^_^ or when an nvidia bug started repeatedly stealing focus to what should have been a background process making computers hard to use...that was fun to try to troubleshoot.
In explorer you can go into the options and under view tab you can select reduced spacing and it makes things more dense like before.
I know, but it unfortunately doesn't. It only reduces density for SOME File Explorer elements, but (a) not all, and (b) the density is still spaced more than Windows 10.
Classic shell is nice to use to change the start menu icon 😊👍
Ain't it great though we finally have LGBT color schemes in Outlook?
Much more important than having a working piece of software.
New User INterfaces are very unresponsive. On my old Laptop PVP Clients for Minecraft such as LabyMod 4, Feather Launcher were very slow on an HDD, i5 3340 and 16GB DDR3 RAM. Windows 11 Settings very unresponsive. And why the hell do you need an SSD to run an operating system properly?
Ok im not the only one to search the setting icon on Android and control panel on Windows...
When the settings are so poorly classified, what else can you do? Android phones all have different settings panel configurations depending on the vendor and some of the placement is absolutely stupid. For example, my Moro G Stylus 5G has Notifications and Sounds under settings. I almost always try Notifications when I want to change my text tone because Notifications is BEFORE Sounds and a text tone is a notification sound, but I always have to back out and pick Sounds, and even then the tones are a full page down in that panel. Even if it's in Sounds, why can't there also be a link to it in Notifications? Why can't Sounds be higher in the settings list since it makes sense and eliminates my browsing before I get to Notifications? Do these engineers use the phones they make at all?!
On Windows 10 in Settings, File History backup is under Updates. WHY?! The grouping of settings panels is absurd! Lumping together Bluetooth, printers, scanners, speakers, microphones, and game controllers under a "devices" umbrella was an awful idea. They all work differently and are configured differently. If you can figure out the exact words they will accept in search, it's often faster to open the settings panel by hitting Windows and typing the word in the Start search box instead. It's not that search is good, it's that Settings is very bad.
Maybe the problem is that the people who are responsible for designing windows are not actually using windows very much. How do you design an OS if it is no longer an MVP? Well, personally I would try to understand how people use the OS and not touch the stuff that people are used to.
Hallelujah brother ❤😂🎉
You are saying exactly what I think about new fruking win GUI.
I have theory but I can't say it publicly because they will call me bigot and hater 😂
Although I apsolutly do not have anything against gay community ;-)
This guy gets itttttt
In my view, Windows 7 was the last good windows
Thanks!
Thank you! 🎉😎
These videos are good how you do them while driving and focusing on the road and vehicles in front of you while you dive into deep subjects regarding random topics. Video's like this or physically showing people while you speak of said topic we can use computers for example while you are on the PC to explain and teach people with instructions for a better understanding.
The mind uses heuristics and chunking to make common tasks automatic. Driving requires visual perception, not absolute mental focus to the exclusion of all other stimuli. I'm talking about things I've put a lot of thought into so even the discussion is not that taxing, plus I edit out the long pauses and some of the placeholder things like "umm" and "but anyway". The drive I usually do here is also mostly highway or multi-lane light to medium traffic driving that I've done for years, so I know everything about it very deeply. There are videos about how I do this stuff on my channel as well.
You want to know what else is stupid about office? Nowadays if you installed a modern forever version with a digital key and later deleted your windows installation, you will not be able to reinstall the app without purchasing another digital key even on the same Microsoft account. It is a one time install. Thats on top of the hyper telemetry wanting to know what you type on their software. So so stupid. Subscriptions have given them brainrot
@@exzld or just use MAS_AIO with the KMS38 hack and you have activation for the next 14 years!
Subscriptions are cancer.
Libre Office FTW!
Though since we're on topic of UI and UX, I hate Hate HATE the way text is selected in LibreOffice (and was on OpenOffice too, 10 years ago). I don't know what the internals of that are, if it's something Java related, but it's so stupid and annoying. I've grown to get used to it, but every time and again I get baffled at how stupid it is. It probably it's something very difficult to fix or simply have too much relying on it to be able to be fixed, otherwise I can't understand why people are still putting up with it.
@@Winnetou17 I'm not going to pretend like LO is remotely perfect! The toolbars are fantastic though.
win 11 background is literally redraw of sh1t emoji. I dunno how people can not see that.
Not that you said it (well, wrote it), I can't unsee it. You're so right!
Although I use macOS more, I loved the XP start menu of the past.
if I ever use BSD... I would use xfce...
that is how I grew up with: Windows 95 / 98 GUI...
If you do use BSD, I beleive there is vwfce95 (or something similar) that gives you a Windows 95 UI.
I hate that they don't have an easy way to make Windows 11 look like XP
There should be a question in the setup and a simple setting off the start menu to make Windows 11 look like XP, restoring the icons and the menus and all the settings in all the crazy places, that it would be like XP and easy to find the preferences
And PLEASE 🥺🙏 I AM BEGGING YOU, have a setting to make the search box just search the drive
So when I ask for a file it doesn't return 10,000 web page results instead of the directory listing
I would love 1 search box just for the drive like XP and a search box for Windows settings
So I could search for Restore Point settings, or I can search for a specific file
This Linking to the web and searching the web instead of the local drive, it is so useless and takes up more time
There must be a setting to make the search box just search the local drive
I think you can use "file:" and "web:" prefixes to focus the search onto specific locations, I tried this once, because I was annoyed as well. I'm not sure though the prefixes work in the task bar.. but iirc, there was a setting somewhere to turn of "searching web and elsewhere", but I can't tell you where, I don't use the windows search feature at all. It's the first thing I remove out of sight everywhere. I use Directory-Opus and void's Everything-Search to find things.
Regarding your XP Settings, I agree. There also should be a dark theme in XP style. It can be done, it would pull the efficient GUI of the past into the present, where general dark mode availability is kind of an improvement actually. It seems to be the only improvement over the last 2 decades though, I totally agree on what Jody is rambling about.
MS SOP. Just go off on some weird tangent, whatever tickles the fancy... it's not as if the user matters in some way...enough people will buy it, partly because it's new, partly because too many are just trained dogs, who will obediently 'roll over' on command, partly because they have no real alternative. If you're MS, if you do nothing else all day, make VERY sure you shoot a few holes in the new release, if only through negligence, carelessness, or a haughty contempt for the saps who eagerly pay to smell every MS fart, that way there won't be another "XP" fiasco, where the previous release was properly done, relatively speaking at least, so nobody wanted the new "VISTA" they didn't need and sure as HELL didn't want, if only they knew!
I'll never forget my first encounter with MS: Living overseas for a number of years, I encountered XP in S.E. Asia. I copied some files, or so I thought. After a while, I noticed that despite the appearance of messages that the files were copied, there was no correleation between the length of the file and the time it took to copy it. So I checked my files and discovered some were copied, many were just fragnents of various, almost random lengths!
XP's so-called "file copy" was just a copying program with a timer of variable duration controlling it, one supposes depending on how much else the computer was doing, and when the alotted time expired, the copy process was simply terminated, and a message automatically sent that the file was copied, regardelss the facts of the matter!!!
I took one "C" course in college, and if I had been assigned the creation a file copy program, and then submitted a program that behaved in that manner, I'd never have passed the course......
On my return to the USA, I acquired a VISTA machine...to my great misfortune, NOT backwards compatible with XP...
'nuff said.
It would explain much if MS hiring practices involve recruitment of software design people possessing no prior computer knowledge....
2015 I think it was I dropped WIndows for good!
Jody they have fixed some of the things you have mentioned, I too was really annoyed with the task bar behaviour, 10 was better for work flow, now 11 is similar, you can switch to small icons and you can have separate icons per window, the start still sucks balls big time though.
I don't think it's good enough. The truth is that I desperately want the Windows 2000 GUI back. There have been many improvements especially in the behavior of Explorer (XP and older were notorious for simply aborting with an error mid-copy or move if anything at all went wrong and I don't want that back) but today we have an astonishing amount of fundamental inconsistency and misbehavior and it actively blocks you from getting things accomplished.
One such case: the menu bar and toolbar paradigm vs. the ribbon paradigm. The toolbar is a row of buttons and controls that are frequently used to the point that making them a single click operation saves tons of time while the menu bar houses ALL of the controllable functionality at the expense of more clicks and searching. The ribbon paradigm replaces all that with much larger multi-row toolboxes that can be swapped out using tabs, and toolboxes can have an arrow at the bottom-right to open a submenu of even more controls that didn't fit in the toolbox.
The ribbon paradigm seems brilliant at first because it removes the multi-tier menu bar entirely in favor of swappable "toolbars" which have more buttons available and can change out based on the task you're performing. In reality, you've increased the complexity and decreased the discoverability while also making the tools stateful. If I want to change the margins, I need to change ribbon tabs and then click the page setup options I need, then I can't do any formatting quickly until I change the ribbon state back to the one with the standard formatting buttons. The bar paradigm is constant and stateless, so the functions never move or change. A menu is all text label while a ribbon is mostly images and icons; often, you need to wait on tooltips to explain what everything is, while menus are somewhat self-documenting. Compounding the issue is the insistence on changing the specifics of the ribbon in every release, so you have no choice but to re-learn things you had already committed to muscle memory.
@@JodyBruchon I agree its not good enough, I personally loved Win2k, favourite Windows OS of all time, I remember having to install 95 from 24 floppy disks, every 2 or 3 days..., but at least I can now use the OS, before they fixed some of the issues with the start menu, I found that 11 was unusable as a day to day OS, it was work flow breaking, this is on the general user side, admin is still bad, its so annoying if I want to have Windows Updates open, then change some personalisation, and maybe correct the time zone, or check network settings, I would prefer to have multiple windows open, not one that is super confusing to navigate, there is talk they are pulling the old control panel out, next will be the old network panel, and so many group policies are ignored, or been removed, and some things I remove, keep coming back like a bad dose of cold sores, I have automated scripts now running in the background that hourly uninstall certain things as I can't stop them from re-downloading and installing like some stupid annoying virus, I definitely prefer Windows 10, but to use the latest hardware properly, one has to install Win11, I have some machines on 10, and a mix of Linux machines, and a few Macs, and I have to say, at this point, even MacOS is easier and more consistent to use than Win11.
As far as the ribbon in Office on my Mac I still use the top menu rather than use the ribbon. Unless it comes to some other office features.
I actually HAD TO buy a start menu app for windows 11 to restore the Win7 I got used to, otherwise I'd've gone crazy. StartAllBack saved my sanity, not an ad just fact.
Microsoft have RUINED their interface. In terms of buttons, the NT interface was fine. Explorer peaked by Windows7. It just gets worse and worse every release at this point. I just use linux at home...with a win95 style desktop :-)
Microsoft designer like to shuffle stuff...also painfull in Visual Studio
jody do you remember norton commander on the MSDOS? aaah the good old days...and i had a PRAVETZ computer
Midnight Commander and Total Commander, IIRC, are still a thing. Not the same nice yellow on blue background, but you have much better resolution now.
You raise some good points. Your videos could use some editing where you show us on-screen what you mean. Would improve the engagement and entertainment of the videos.
That is not part of this format. This is a ramble. If I started editing in visual aids I may as well just make a fully edited video which takes a lot of time.
Would be nice if Sony made another PS Vita but with a actual windows style UI OS built in when we use the browser but "only" for the browser.
@UC6RUnPNdRsnKFzNqesjvpXANot to mention their games are all interactive snore fests.
Everything changes over time just the law's of life sadly and crazy people doing things to cause bad or good things to happen.
What better XP features could be integrated into Win 11?
The issue is more that features were removed, like half of the control panel. All UWP "apps" are slow to start while most old Win32 programs run extremely quickly. I guess I'm saying that most of the "improvements" since Windows 2000 are actually regressions.
@@JodyBruchon Yes I understand, just wondrin if any of the older preferred features could be brought back, aside from the other issues you mentioned which I got. What grinds the gears more than a useful feature they decide to change for no good reason.
@@JodyBruchon ok good to know thanks. Are there third party apps developed which address these concerns in the way of plugins or something?
I read from your irritation that you are an employee and not a consultant...right? Consultants LOVE stuff like this so they can re-do every little script they ever made.
@@swedishpsychopath8795 I don't understand what you're trying to say. I own a PC repair shop, a video production company, and I have been writing code for fun since childhood.
The reason people like Volkswagen is because it's a reliable and quality brand.
As for the rest of your video, I mostly agree with you, except not how you feel about W10 which we're free to disagree of course. I use 10 LTSC so it's an edition very few use and are aware so my experience differs from the majority.
10 LTSC feels like 7 with a 10 skin and I very much like it. I'll try to keep using it until 2029 and then? Well, every PC will begin using Linux around here.
As a former vw tech I can tell you they are NOT reliable or high quality.
@@PhilipMarcYT Except it's not. European cars are notoriously unreliable and very expensive to repair. Volkswagen may be reliable compared to BMW and Mercedes but they're still the top tier of the bottom of the barrel. American cars are more reliable and Japanese cars absolutely dominate in the reliability ratings, and have for decades.
@@jgiffin25 I'm sorry you had to work on those. You should look at my Mitsubishi Mirage under the hood. It's a mechanic's dream. Room to work, simple design, not run by 30 computers, cheap, reliable, and the 3-cylinder powertrain is all small parts.
@@JodyBruchonVolkswagen is also notoriously difficult to work on. I’ve talked to car mechanics who said as much.
They are ruining their own products. It's ok, more users will come to open source products.
They're trying to make it mobile-friendly, but the people who use Windows use/used it as a traditional PC OS not a darn mobile OS!
And Windows 8 sucked because of that, even 8.1 wasn't that much of an improvement as the Start Menu was a fake start since it didn't open a traditional Start Menu. It'd open a menu with a mobile UI. Sigh.
I never thought I'd be pushed to Linux by M$. lol
woah get a load of this trendy gut with the wednesday tshirt!
@@vampire_kiril I filmed it on a Monday. That's the joke.
Okay I know I already posted, but this post is actually about the video's content, so.
I'm nowhere near administrative-level work - I can't get a "Hello world!" to work! - but I do that trick a lot too, mostly because I keep losing track of where the mouse is on a laptop. That's more a "me" thing, though. I can't imagine how irritating that "design decision" must be, but I'm pretty sure if I were in that moment, I'd be thinking about driving to Microshaft HQ with a shotgun.
Microsoft really needs to go back and take a look at vista,XP,7,8,10 and build something better for the customers for work and gaming with the choice to Not include a.i. into the PC. Concerned what to do about windows 10 next 0ctober. One of my PCs is to old to upgrade to 11 and trying to prevent any upgrade to 11 unless I have no choice don't like the way 11 looks at all or works.
w8 and w10 are terrible, even though i dont like w11 at least it has a way nicer and more cohesive interface than those two.
You could use Windows 10 LTSC or IoT LTSC. I've also never had it nag at me to upgrade to 11 with that version. IoT would last you until 2032.
You need to get a quality Toyota bro, hightest quality in the world.
@@williambaldwin9346 My Mitsubishi Mirage is better than a Toyota.
In Windows 11, you can do what you need to do without the problem.
I don't hate win 11
But there are several things I don't agree with Microsoft in how things are set up and how Windows 11 works.
I have modified win 11 to get it so I like it more
and it is not always easy.
win 11 lock is not good. Sad simple and ugly and cold.
It is not always so easy to change things. you often have to spend a long time on the internet to find a solution, which often means that you have to visit reg edit.