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- Опубликовано: 9 сен 2024
- President Obama signed an order reversing the Bush administration's strict limits on human embryonic stem cell research.
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Politics: President Obama on Stem Cell Research
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Awesome and inspirational speech on Stem Cell Therapy
Hey I'm post med( a practicing physician). As you'll learn in embryology class, an embryo is a developing human individual. The embryo in the dish is born there. There is no carrying mother. An embryo's humanness is not determined by it's spareness. Cannibalizing our own young is not an advancement.
Have a great day and study hard.
Amen! Wish there were more like this one...
Are humans meant to be developed as parts in the corporate lab, or as a whole in women?
We are all mature "embryonic stem cell lines", except WE have not been pulled apart at an earlier stage of our development.
Thanks President this revelation is great for Humanity.
I support stem cell research!!
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I am a conservative, agnostic and biology major... pre-med track. Christians don't have a problem with stem cell research. It is embryonic stem cell research and the idea of when life starts. Adult stem cell research is much more affective anyway and those cells are taken from cooperative donors not unborn children.
anc - Let me clarify one point for you. President Bush never had a ban on Stem Cell Research. Bush had a ban on Federal Funding of most ESCR.
many scientists agree that umbilical cord stem cells are very promising. so I would be a little more conscientious about experimenting on embryo's. There are many other possibilities and president Obama is not representing an objective perspective when he says "after much discussion, debate and reflection... the majority of americans across the political sectrum and from all backgrounds and beliefs have come to a consensus that we should pursue this research". I'm sorry that is not true.
Are there any of you advocates who support ESCR that have read the Dickey Amendment? Do you know why this amendment was written? Who's administration was it written in? And finally, has it been repealed?
Better to throw them out than to grow baby parts, right?
They are forced to survive and develop in the corporate lab, not as a whole, but as pieces of a whole.
Corporations should not be allowed to control the entire body and substance of a developing human well into the infant cell stage.
@funichigo i think stem cells are used pretty much only from bone marrow these days, which can be gathered from any human so the patient can have his own stem cells extracted so no neeed for them to kll embryos
anc - Teratoma. Let me help you with this one, too. A Teratoma is simply a Tumor, made-up of a heterogeneous mixture of cells,,,, To include; Bone, Cartilage, Muscle. But, still, it is a tumor. If you need more information, I'll be happy to give it to you.
You telling the truth!
Great job!
Cell maturity and control are the reason ESC won't work? In fact, my 4th year Micro Cell Bio at McMaster university was presented that question for bonus marks. If my reply was, "Cell maturity and control," I would not mind if my Prof. laughed at my lack of understanding in the subject and question how the hell I made it to 4th year Cell Bio. Please provide educated, clinical, physiological reasons that would uphold in a Lab Report. Not some assumption backed by zero evidence.
1. Sorry for the typo
2. Teratomas happen often enough
3. Sorry, but a human embryo is human, hence the adjective human
4. I agree, embryonic stem cells have the most potential, AS AN INTACT WHOLE NEW HUMAN BEING
5. Adult stem cells are the ONLY stem cells that have shown promise
6. I said lose lose lose. I'm pretty smart
7. See number 4
8. Is the life in the petrie dish in outer space?
9. Matter of opinion. Lotsa ambition, sure. His greatest asset seems to be an uncanny ability to blow smoke.
Not for long. If a comatose patient is certain to wake up, and sit up, and speak within a few months, and walk within 2 years, would you pull the plug? If they were to forever to float around, you may have a point. Since they continue to develop, your point is moot.
@khead13 No one is against the use of adult stem cells or umbilical cells. Living human embryos, however, are not fodder for corporations conversion of humans into commodities.
Awesome and inspirational speech. Our president hit all the key points for promoting unbiased scientific research and development. Anyone with a disability or has a loved one with a disability will understand how uplifting and important his speech and executive order truly is.
I want everyone who opposes this research to publicly make a pledge now to abstain from profiting from all advances in medicine this research will bring. Otherwise you're just hypocrites. It's that simple.
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it is the time that stem cell will be treated in the USA and not out of the USA
The problem with your intellectually bereft example is that this overlooks the basic biological difference between a regular body cell, and one whose nuclear material has been fused with an unfertilized egg cell, resulting in an embryo. A normal skin cell will only give rise to more skin cells when it divides, while an embryo will give rise to the entire adult organism. Skin cells are not potential adults. Skin cells are potentially only more skin cells. Only embryos are potential adults.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't adult stem cells heavily limited in the type of cells that they can differentiate into? Embryonic stem cells, to my knowledge, are able to differentiate into a greater diversity of cells. In addition, is it not much easier, even prior to the uplifting of the stem cell research restrictions, to obtain embryonic stem cells compared to adult stem cells?
just because u are against it doesnt mean we shouldnt do it. im not telling you how to live your life dont stop me from living the way i want(unless i hurt sombody else) not all of us see a human being when we are looking at a group of cells, we see a cure.
This is just horrible....embryos are going to be someone someday if the keep growing! Why are people so selfish for killing a human being for their own health! Also i cant believe our tax dollars are paying for this to be happening...we live in a very sad world...being 15 and seeing whats going on now...i am VERY afraid for my future and the future of my kids...
Thanks for not misusing public funds.
When he signs a bill or order the president does so with loads of pens and then gives each one to different people around the room. Just a ritual. Americans are bit weird.
damn bass always every few seconds, it's like i'm gonna expect godzilla to pop up any minute or something
You're at McMaster, Right? Have you discussed your query with Mick, yet? And if so what was Mickie's response?
As for your lack of understanding, Hell, there are Stem Cell Researchers that don't know why they have been unable to direct ESCs in their desired direction.
at this point. literally the only reason i am subscribed to this channel is to read these comments :P
@SpongyOLlama Greetings. I, as a physician, know just about everything biological. This includes embryology, the life cycle of a human being, etc. I've touched a teratoma, and I see this type of research going NOWHERE. It's a true waste of taxpayer funds, as much of this current administration's policie, and it truly takes away from more promising research.
We're all for cures.
You do hopefully know that women have an abundance of eggs, no woman could ever use all of her eggs. I know this is a sensitive issue but did you know that statistically as much 50% of all pregnancies end in involuntary abortion world wide? You also criticize the fact that eggs/embryons are harvested for research, how else are they going ever to find out the potential other than from the study of these embryons?
Thanks Dr. Anand Srivastava for this valuable lecture on Stem cell.
Non fetal stem cell research success = 90 . Fetal parts stem cell research success = 0.
Ladies and Gents place your bets.
@HiddenFacedMatt A tray of embryos not in a woman are as good as dead. The reason why Catholics and Christians are against using "spare embryos" is because they are against abortion as well. I do not agree with embryonic stem cell research because there are other ways to obtain stem cells like Adult stem cell research and umbilical cord stem cell research, they are not hard to get and are also pluripotent like embryonic stem cells, meaning they can make many other types of cells.
The potential of saving a person who's already alive, & in incredible discomfort by experimenting on Embryonic cells who haven't developed enough to even have the functional 5 senses (the things that allow you experience reality, or what we like to call 'life') is a trade that should always be taken. For a person who's alive is alive 100%, and the person who is not is niether in discomfort, capable of experiencing discomfort or even alive. If you don't have developed senses, you're not alive!
He referred to himself as "a person of faith". I severely doubt he was sincere in saying this. My guess is that he's a non-believer but can never fully admit it. If he had, he would never been elected to office in the United States.
qasjp, On the same day mr oblama released Federal Funds for Embryonic Stem Cell Research, he stopped Federal Funds for Adult Stem Cell Research.
If you don't believe me, just accomplish a tiny bit of research and, there it is.
so you would rather just destroy the stem cells? the only stem cells that are used are ones that will not be used.
Alot people who have Diabetes dont have health insurance. Those numbers are expected to double in the next few years. So they better find a cure soon for Diabetes. Yes, the goverment is going to pick up the tab. And that could damage the economy.
ok, noone would do something like that if they know the comatose would come out of their state. also, what if the embryos from which the cells are taken are within a woman who does not want a child but wants to abort it instead? it would be a better option than adoption.
i beleave he is right to revers the bush administrations strict limits on human embryonic stem cell research. Because these cells could in fact one day help cure so many criple, cancer,parkinses, and diabetes people take it from me i have diabetes and i hope one day they could find a cure 4 me cause i know how it feels to be sick and how u have to spend soo much money to jus support my medicens an stripsso ya i think this is a good step in american history
@magichristo Don't discriminate a human being because of their age...just because your older and everyone else is doesn't mean you can kill life that young at your own selfishness. Why the hell would you create life and kill it! It's so absurd.
As an ex-embryo, now an MD, I fully understand the consequences of embryonic stem cell use. It's a tumor called a teratoma. Watch the video "teratoma monologue" and see for yourself. This is why Dr. Oz stated, "the debate is over" in front of Oprah and Michael J. Fox. Hopefully you'll find the video memorable.
What do Obama and Pope know about Stem Cells?
Why haven't they spoke on it recently knowing there's a coronavirus going on?
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The moral analysis of what we may permissibly do with an embryo doesn’t depend on its otherwise "going to waste," nor on the incidental fact that those embryos are "trapped" in liquid nitrogen. If we think about a school house in which there is a group of children who are trapped through no fault of their own, that would not make it okay to send in a remote control robotic device which would harvest organs from those children and cause their demise.
Why did President Obama have to change pens so many times?
It sure does, if you consider a seed growing in the soil flower.
VERY EXPENSIVE CANNIBALISM
Corporations should not own human beings at any stage of their life cycle. Corporations do not have a history of benevolence.
Have a great day.
i fail to see what's wrong with growing human bodyparts, aslong as the "person" dont have a consciousness.
Legally, the development of living infant tissues should remain under the total control of the women of the U.S., not the corporations of the U.S.
Taxpayer financed systematic cost-prohibitive cannibalism of the youngest of our species is not a medical advancement.
Spend my hard-earned tax money on REAL research.
magichristo wrote:
Also, embryonic stem cell research has many times helped a LOT with treatments, it's a viable source for treatment which is being investigated
I must have missed that Scientific Paper showing how "ESCR has many times helped a LOT with treatments."
Would you please show all of us where you got that information?
Because of a firm belief in "Quantity over quality" of new people.
@Volf99 It IS a human. Textbook fact: Human Embryology.
humans are meant to prosper and thrive and move forward....sure you can take consideration and not abuse things but its ignorant to want to holt human progression
Very informative! Nice Presentation by Giostar.
If you're wondering wut a teratoma is, search the you tube video "teratoma monologue" and enjoy.
Scientist fix problems, but at the same time they create problems.
Is that the way you talk to your physician? If my 17 year old needs to study for finals, I'll tell him to do so, kiddo.
"A lie cannot live."
Martin Luther King, Jr.
Dr. King was a great man and a Baptist minister and a man of principle. 94% of Baptist ministers are against human embryonic stem cell research. This research is going nowhere and is a waste of very valuable research dollars. I agree with Dr. King.
you a clown
Thank goodness we're getting back on track after eight years of fuck-uppery.
What you're describing in the "pull the plug" scenario is diffrent; if the plug is pulled then the patient dies and story ends there. but with embryos and the stem cells, the cells can then be used to heal people with cancer, disabilities, and other diseases/disabilities that would be incurable otherwise.
What is needed to create these experiments? Carbon my friend. It's what the lizard uses. Evil is he that provides gifts.
So you supported embryos to being used to help those who havent been able to tap into nature and fix themselves.
"Because he's Obama!" is NOT a valid argument for ANYTHING, pro or con. If you're a right-winger, then NOTHING this man could ever possibly do would be acceptable in your eyes, thereby nullifying any criticism you'd have of him.
We're approaching the one year mark since mr oblama released Billions of US Dollars for Embryonic Stem Cell Research. I don't think it's too much to ask for an annual update or even a thorough progress report of this past years ESCR.
We Are All Waiting!
"The potential of saving a person who's already alive..." Bla, Bla, Bla.
You want to carry the above thought to it's logical conclusion? Well, it isn't a very pretty one. It would indeed open a pandora's box.
Abraham Lincoln and Martin Luther King would be against this.
The importance of stem cell treatment is vast
Very informative...
@RJJ12
What I said isn't opinion, it's fact. I never discussed adult stem cells is the comment, I was simply defending the use of embryonic stem cells, and gave a success story.
I never said adult stem cells DONT work, did I?
did he reli? ban adult stem cell research?
There is no such a thing like finish line in a world of Science " HE. President Baraka Obama USA 2013
Should make you think too about scientists around the world curing cancer in the near future. Tabu reasoning is to freedom what a Bigmac is to fitness.
agreed strongly
@oran6es Here's a "clue", just as the use of embryonic stem cells is debated, so is the idea that a embryo is a human. When you state that a embryo is a human like its a fact, then you just come off as foolish. Instead you should sate it as your opinion.
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Neer - that's so the people around him would have a souvenir of his signing this presidental moment in history.
@SpongyOLlama well, if I were paralyzed and you implanted embryonic cells in me, I'd still be paralyzed and I'd have a new tumor, a teratoma, containing baby hair and teeth. Adult stem cells, on the other hand, have shown some promise.
@oran6es and what text book is that? the name and the publishing date would be nice.
Would you rather that they were destroyed and in that way made to do nothing? I agree that there are many ethical factors to consider, but non the less it is an avenue worth pursuing, not without due consideration. You criticize that embryonic stem cell research has yet to yield results, where as adult stem cells has a good track record, did you know only 2 studies have been made using embryonic cells and adult stem cell research has been researched to over 50 years?
'Cause they don't understand it.
I wonder how pro-lifers would regard the rarest forms of teratoma. If you don't know what that is look it up. Now there's a "life" they should defend.
where
Hope Stem cell will bring revolution modern medicine
Climate change appears real. Evolution is real. We must protect the environment as if our life depends on it, because it does.
Cannibalism is not an advancement. It's pretty simple stuff. My brain is just as big as yours. I'm probably more educated. Goin' with the flow is not always the best course.
Or they can get a teratoma
would you kill one person, if it wouyld mean that you save the life of two others ? considering you dont know each of those three
its good to see america now has a leader with a brain
YOU are AWESOME
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I think President obama understand the scientific intelligence so much.
envanje...i don't see the link...
the two are not the same thing you can have stem cells without abortion.
are you referring to Emeril? I haven't heard him say grace before making a meal. BAM! Or maybe barefoot contessa? The french chef, perhaps?
"This is no different than when a person gives a kidney, piece of thier liver, bone marrow ect....." The only difference is embryo stem cells come from the killing of a human life where giving a liver, kidney etc... does not.
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Thanks
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At this moment, we have become our own worst disease.
WHY NO CLONING???
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This decision was a triumph of science and technology over superstition.
@HiddenFacedMatt I’m not fighting I'm researching Opinions on the subjects of abortion, embryonic stem cell research, and human cloning for use of their stem cells. Adult stem cells should have more support because they can be taken from many parts of an adult without harming them. And I was not giving the definition of clone embryos. I was saying in this situation, there is a form of collecting stem cells by implanting and aborting cloned embryos for their stem cells.
@RJJ12
Look, I'm not going to argue with you about where life begins. I'm assuming a pastor or priest told you that who called himself a doctor.