I just attended The Ride Series this weekend in Dallas and the turning portion of the clinic was INVALUABLE! 🙌🏼🙌🏼 I've been hitting the trails this past week and I already feel so much SAFER and CONFIDENT in the turns. I can't thank Rich enough for all the knowledge bombs he dropped during the clinic! 🙏🏼
Discovered your content yesterday and as a very unskilled older returning mtbiker, finding these tutorials really interesting. Can't wait to practise these skills as my fitness improves.Thank you.
Thanks and yes. Returned earlier from a pedal around our local trail and my fitness was a lot better fourth time out. Learning the track and more able to apply your techniques , although I am taking it easy on my hardtail! First time out I was nearly gasping for breath and stopping way too often from fear, going downhill. Felt like id been rotated inside a washing machine filled with rocks!😂
I took the TRS clinic this summer '21. Best thing I ever did for my skills. Take the money you are going to put into a new component that you don't really need. Yes, we all have done that, and upgrade your skills! I loved working on the turning drills and they have definitely leveled me up when I took that back home and practiced on the local trails.
Awesome video, me and 7 of my rider buddys are going to Bentonville from South Florida in May. Hopefully we can get lucky to shred with you some trails.
I have attended a couple of the ride series classes and highly recommend them. Correct technique and repetition are the key. These short vids are some of the best!
What you just discussed is what I usually call a "graceful turn." I can't help myself but react, "What a graceful turn!," while watching your video!😄 As a beginner, that's what I always wish to achieve no matter what the road condition is. Especially so that I ride a hardtail MTB, a graceful turn demonstrates that there exists a good synergy between the rider & its bike. With that, what I do is practice, practice, & more practice until I get it right! On the other hand, I call bad turns as "rowdy turns." Very often than not, rowdy turns lead me to trouble! 😂 Lots'a love, cheers, & Mabuhay, from tropical Philippines! #KeepBiking
I've seen you and your brother on South mountain hitting national and Mormon! Me and my friends enjoy your videos a lot, very helpful and entertaining!!!
Muchas gracias Hermano 🙂 Me creerias que pienso en tí en cada curva que agarro? Sí!!! 😅 pienso en ti cada vez que agarro una curva. Muchas gracias por estas clases en línea😎👍🏾💙. Dios te bendiga, Dios te pague.
Great breakdown! I've found that staying tall and timing the pump at the apex inspires a lot of confidence. How about long turns? I struggle keeping pressure down all the way through the turn. Happy xmas!
Great job on the video. My 2022 goal is to create speed everywhere you can and this video helped that cause. Never thought of pedals position in relation to the apex and adding in some lower body positioning! Keep them coming sir.
Thanks Matthew! I’m pumped it resonates with you. You have a great goal for ‘22 and we’re planning to make a few more vids to help with what you speak of. Find a grass field to work on that relative pedal position and you slowly start to get comfy with it. Also, buy an inexpensive tripod and set it up 1) facing you 2) from behind and 3) from the side. This will help you understand the positioning and what you are actually doing. The better you can get with the timing of dropping your weight into the apex, the more velocity you’ll be able to create. Once you get comfortable with this, you can slowly bring in more speed and ratchet up the input 👊🏻😉
Nice video! how tall are you to use the S3? I'm 5'9'' but short legs, almost thinking I should have gone with an S3 for my Levo SL (same geo as the Stumpjumper).
Great video! Turning is definitely one of those things I have a lot of work I need to do. Would love to see another deeper video on this that you teased. Mainly the push into the turn because how do you sustain the push? I weight into it but unweight way before I should be.. the struggle is real. Grabbing some cones and off to a dirt field I go
Thats really nice. I tasted grass sometimes when frontweehl didn´t go my way ;-) I slowly getting better and better at this. Would be really nice to be in your ride clinic. But, it is really faaaaaar away. I say, thank you for all videos with tips :-) and wish you and yours a really merry christmas :-)
Thanks, Drew. Why do I hear so many conflicting opinions on what to do with the outside foot? Some say leave level. I find greater success dropping the foot in many situations, though.
Do you use that technique in a berm turn? I older (70 and new to mtb) rolling through a steep berm is sketchy at times. Any feed back would be appreciated. DK
Thanks for another great one. Have a Stumpy as well, I custom built it, really diggin' this rig. Question - when following the leaning technique, which I completely get, agree with and use all the time, when you feel a slide or loss of grip, if you can catch it before tasting that sweet earth, what's your method of correcting? Dab? Less lean? A steering correction? I ride clipped in too. Merry Christmas!
Nice video with great instruction. I don't disagree at all but some feedback if I may... I will quote my wife ... "less blah blah and more action!". You should include more video of you riding to show the techniques that you are describing in detail.. But again, great instruction so thanks!
Yep, BUT . . . another way to think about what you're doing is to "ride" the bike, not be a passenger. You must be an active participant, or you'll get ejected. If you just sit on the bike you can't dominate it. To ride quickly and safely YOU must dominate your bike. Make it do what you want. Make it go where YOU want it to go. Be it's master. Anything less is injury. Or plodding along waiting to jump off and walk.
Just a question: at 8:46 you say that if you drop your hips down you're bringing more weight. Isn't it the opposite? To bring more weight you have to push through the legs, not to brig hips down. When you're on a scale and you compress down, what happens?
Dropping your hips, means you essentially push your legs at the end of the movement so it's not opposite. If you are stood up straight and want to push your legs into the floor, you would need to drop your hips and then as you get to the bottom of the motion push up with your legs. It's the same thing.
Generally, keeping both your feet level is used when you have a berm / built up / banked corner, but you then push a lot more with your hips into the apex to gain speed out of the turn. :)
I'll be interested to hear Rich's take on this. I find that on really steep berms where you really "stick" into them, it's actually better to stay centered over the bike so the entire tire is flush with the angle of the berm, because that gets the most surface area of the tire in contact with the ground. There's no reason to rely on the side lugs in that scenario. Sometimes I still drop my outside foot out of habit, and that's probably just my comfort zone so that I feel I can get my inside foot out quickly if something goes wrong, and I do it so much on everything else...it's habit. I'm not sure Rich touched on it in his video, but for me, lowering my outside foot actually helps to lower my center of gravity slightly. If you think about it...your outside foot is lower than if your pedals are level, so you inherently lower your center of gravity. I'm old school, and I drop my outside foot on everything other than really steep berms, even when I'm going slower than when it's really needed. I have never really identified a downside to doing it.
I'm pretty sure that when he's bluntly telling people to go elsewhere with their comments and criticisms it's all part of his comedy aggressive 'drill Sergeant' persona. He's a smart guy and obviously wants to do something more interesting and unique than the usual nice-guy RUclipsr style. RUclips comments are a free-for-all, and there's often a load of uninformed, confrontational nonsense on here, so I love the idea of a RUclipsr straight up telling his critics where to go. I'm sure Rich doesn't believe for one moment that he can shut the internet up, but attempting to do so is just a comic skit, the same as his Stewie from Family Guy impression in the 'How to Whip' video. The important thing is that the instructional content is always high quality - particularly when it comes to helping you to understand and visualise the individual components of complicated manoeuvres. In this video, the concept of balancing your inside hand guidance against the weight on your outside foot is a new one on me, and I'm looking forward to trying that out later.
@@richdrewtherideseries You know that if you're throwing sarcasm and silliness into your tutorials, the Brits will always have your back.... Feedback on this vid after today's ride: game-changer. I've followed lots of tutorials on bike-body separation, slalom-drills etc., and have improved a hell of a lot, but plateaued. The difference made by simply visualising your inner hand balancing your outer foot was dramatic - I actually found it fried my brain to start with and I was getting my front/back foot mixed up, but I did about a mile of downhill slalom drill, and by the end, I was close to internalising it and was even taking my hand off the outer handgrip each time. After that session, cornering on the streets back to my house has never been sweeter. So thanks for the big help - if you were to do some deeper dives on this, I reckon they'd be popular.
I just attended The Ride Series this weekend in Dallas and the turning portion of the clinic was INVALUABLE! 🙌🏼🙌🏼 I've been hitting the trails this past week and I already feel so much SAFER and CONFIDENT in the turns. I can't thank Rich enough for all the knowledge bombs he dropped during the clinic! 🙏🏼
So bummed out I missed the Frisco clinic this year.
I had a lesson w/ Rich Drew and we spent 30mins on riding turns and berms, and I’m not a new rider. Game changer.
I agree 100% after doing the clinic!
Discovered your content yesterday and as a very unskilled older returning mtbiker, finding these tutorials really interesting. Can't wait to practise these skills as my fitness improves.Thank you.
Heck yes! Glad you found it and I hope it helps you in your return to the mountain bike! Have fun!
Thanks and yes. Returned earlier from a pedal around our local trail and my fitness was a lot better fourth time out. Learning the track and more able to apply your techniques , although I am taking it easy on my hardtail! First time out I was nearly gasping for breath and stopping way too often from fear, going downhill. Felt like id been rotated inside a washing machine filled with rocks!😂
Your turning tip regarding inside hand outside foot changed the game for me. Great video!
Thanks to him I run some sick flat turns.
I does have real fun.
Great explanation of how physics affects your turning.
This was fantastic can't wait to try it on the trail 💯🤙🏾
I took the TRS clinic this summer '21. Best thing I ever did for my skills. Take the money you are going to put into a new component that you don't really need. Yes, we all have done that, and upgrade your skills! I loved working on the turning drills and they have definitely leveled me up when I took that back home and practiced on the local trails.
Awesome video, me and 7 of my rider buddys are going to Bentonville from South Florida in May. Hopefully we can get lucky to shred with you some trails.
I have attended a couple of the ride series classes and highly recommend them. Correct technique and repetition are the key. These short vids are some of the best!
That is a great video, used your technique and I'm becoming a better rider. Thank you for making all these videos.
Don't know about anyone else I think you're spot on great video
Thanx for the video. Cant wait for the Ride Series to get to Los Angeles.
Killin' it with those Trail Manos gloves! 🤘🏼
You know it 👊🏻👊🏻
What you just discussed is what I usually call a "graceful turn."
I can't help myself but react, "What a graceful turn!," while watching your video!😄
As a beginner, that's what I always wish to achieve no matter what the road condition is. Especially so that I ride a hardtail MTB, a graceful turn demonstrates that there exists a good synergy between the rider & its bike. With that, what I do is practice, practice, & more practice until I get it right!
On the other hand, I call bad turns as "rowdy turns." Very often than not, rowdy turns lead me to trouble! 😂
Lots'a love, cheers, & Mabuhay, from tropical Philippines! #KeepBiking
I've seen you and your brother on South mountain hitting national and Mormon! Me and my friends enjoy your videos a lot, very helpful and entertaining!!!
This is an awesome, very good detail session!
Thank you Tim 👊🏻
Another great vid Rich, thanks. Lemme know when the ride series makes it’s way to the UKs Surrey hills!
Hey Rich, how talk are you? ..in reference to S3 vs S4. Thanks
Hey Joseph! I'm 5'10 with fairly average limb lengths. I could go either way on sizing honestly, I just prefer the S3
Muchas gracias Hermano 🙂
Me creerias que pienso en tí en cada curva que agarro?
Sí!!! 😅 pienso en ti cada vez que agarro una curva.
Muchas gracias por estas clases en línea😎👍🏾💙.
Dios te bendiga, Dios te pague.
Looking forward to more of these, especially more technical corners with different radii.
Great breakdown! I've found that staying tall and timing the pump at the apex inspires a lot of confidence. How about long turns? I struggle keeping pressure down all the way through the turn. Happy xmas!
Great job on the video. My 2022 goal is to create speed everywhere you can and this video helped that cause. Never thought of pedals position in relation to the apex and adding in some lower body positioning! Keep them coming sir.
Thanks Matthew! I’m pumped it resonates with you. You have a great goal for ‘22 and we’re planning to make a few more vids to help with what you speak of. Find a grass field to work on that relative pedal position and you slowly start to get comfy with it. Also, buy an inexpensive tripod and set it up 1) facing you 2) from behind and 3) from the side. This will help you understand the positioning and what you are actually doing. The better you can get with the timing of dropping your weight into the apex, the more velocity you’ll be able to create. Once you get comfortable with this, you can slowly bring in more speed and ratchet up the input 👊🏻😉
Excellent video!
Let’s talk about tarrrsssss. Awesome vid 🤙🏼
Harry Hogge knows his stuff ;)
Great vid, thanks
Nice video! how tall are you to use the S3? I'm 5'9'' but short legs, almost thinking I should have gone with an S3 for my Levo SL (same geo as the Stumpjumper).
Great video! Turning is definitely one of those things I have a lot of work I need to do. Would love to see another deeper video on this that you teased. Mainly the push into the turn because how do you sustain the push? I weight into it but unweight way before I should be.. the struggle is real. Grabbing some cones and off to a dirt field I go
Thanks Austin and GREAT question! Our plan is to break it down even deeper and make this a series. Stay tuned 👊🏻👊🏻
Man I need to get to one of these ride series. Oklahoma on the docket?
Rich do i have to put down my outside foot/pedal completely down during turning? ty
Thats really nice. I tasted grass sometimes when frontweehl didn´t go my way ;-) I slowly getting better and better at this. Would be really nice to be in your ride clinic. But, it is really faaaaaar away. I say, thank you for all videos with tips :-) and wish you and yours a really merry christmas :-)
Thanks so much Tony 🙏🏻! It certainly takes time to hone this skill, don’t rush it. Merry Christmas to you and yours as well!
Thanks, Drew. Why do I hear so many conflicting opinions on what to do with the outside foot? Some say leave level. I find greater success dropping the foot in many situations, though.
Do you use that technique in a berm turn? I older (70 and new to mtb) rolling through a steep berm is sketchy at times. Any feed back would be appreciated. DK
For a very heavily banked turn do you get your hips out as much or stay more inline with the bike?
Do you use the same principles when a trail has leaves/pine needles etc?
Thanks for another great one. Have a Stumpy as well, I custom built it, really diggin' this rig. Question - when following the leaning technique, which I completely get, agree with and use all the time, when you feel a slide or loss of grip, if you can catch it before tasting that sweet earth, what's your method of correcting? Dab? Less lean? A steering correction? I ride clipped in too. Merry Christmas!
I need to try out some of these cornering drills. Since riding a 29, I never feel as though I have enough grip on the front when cornering!
Nice video with great instruction. I don't disagree at all but some feedback if I may... I will quote my wife ... "less blah blah and more action!". You should include more video of you riding to show the techniques that you are describing in detail.. But again, great instruction so thanks!
+1 for Florida! Do you need a permit if you just show up as “a friend who’s staying with me?”
Yep, BUT . . . another way to think about what you're doing is to "ride" the bike, not be a passenger. You must be an active participant, or you'll get ejected. If you just sit on the bike you can't dominate it. To ride quickly and safely YOU must dominate your bike. Make it do what you want. Make it go where YOU want it to go. Be it's master. Anything less is injury. Or plodding along waiting to jump off and walk.
Heck yes #DOMINATE!!!
Just a question: at 8:46 you say that if you drop your hips down you're bringing more weight. Isn't it the opposite? To bring more weight you have to push through the legs, not to brig hips down.
When you're on a scale and you compress down, what happens?
Dropping your hips, means you essentially push your legs at the end of the movement so it's not opposite. If you are stood up straight and want to push your legs into the floor, you would need to drop your hips and then as you get to the bottom of the motion push up with your legs. It's the same thing.
Nice break down of the turn Drew! I am taller (6’2”) and cornering is what keeps me from progressing. Great video. Happy Holidays Dumper!
Great break down on cornering!
Are there scenarios where you would position the pedals level and what are they?
Generally, keeping both your feet level is used when you have a berm / built up / banked corner, but you then push a lot more with your hips into the apex to gain speed out of the turn. :)
I'll be interested to hear Rich's take on this. I find that on really steep berms where you really "stick" into them, it's actually better to stay centered over the bike so the entire tire is flush with the angle of the berm, because that gets the most surface area of the tire in contact with the ground. There's no reason to rely on the side lugs in that scenario. Sometimes I still drop my outside foot out of habit, and that's probably just my comfort zone so that I feel I can get my inside foot out quickly if something goes wrong, and I do it so much on everything else...it's habit.
I'm not sure Rich touched on it in his video, but for me, lowering my outside foot actually helps to lower my center of gravity slightly. If you think about it...your outside foot is lower than if your pedals are level, so you inherently lower your center of gravity. I'm old school, and I drop my outside foot on everything other than really steep berms, even when I'm going slower than when it's really needed. I have never really identified a downside to doing it.
2:35 I will like to have a fox fork one day.
7:21 you are so fucking good bro. thanks
Rich how tall are you?
Lots of rewinding!!! Thanks
what you said at the end is just going to make people want to troll you in the comments even more
Why is he so sensitive to what people say? It's the internet...
I'm pretty sure that when he's bluntly telling people to go elsewhere with their comments and criticisms it's all part of his comedy aggressive 'drill Sergeant' persona. He's a smart guy and obviously wants to do something more interesting and unique than the usual nice-guy RUclipsr style. RUclips comments are a free-for-all, and there's often a load of uninformed, confrontational nonsense on here, so I love the idea of a RUclipsr straight up telling his critics where to go. I'm sure Rich doesn't believe for one moment that he can shut the internet up, but attempting to do so is just a comic skit, the same as his Stewie from Family Guy impression in the 'How to Whip' video. The important thing is that the instructional content is always high quality - particularly when it comes to helping you to understand and visualise the individual components of complicated manoeuvres. In this video, the concept of balancing your inside hand guidance against the weight on your outside foot is a new one on me, and I'm looking forward to trying that out later.
@@tacticianomen3077 Well said and spot on!
@tactician omen You ABSOLUTELY win the Internet for 2021 and possibly all time 🙏🏻 😉
@@richdrewtherideseries You know that if you're throwing sarcasm and silliness into your tutorials, the Brits will always have your back.... Feedback on this vid after today's ride: game-changer. I've followed lots of tutorials on bike-body separation, slalom-drills etc., and have improved a hell of a lot, but plateaued. The difference made by simply visualising your inner hand balancing your outer foot was dramatic - I actually found it fried my brain to start with and I was getting my front/back foot mixed up, but I did about a mile of downhill slalom drill, and by the end, I was close to internalising it and was even taking my hand off the outer handgrip each time. After that session, cornering on the streets back to my house has never been sweeter. So thanks for the big help - if you were to do some deeper dives on this, I reckon they'd be popular.