Shame he doesn't really do cars that aren't either obviously sponsored in some way by a manufacturer or are for sale on cars and bids. The videos are still good, but the channel has lost lots of its appeal and charm. Feel like he sold out after launching cars and bids
@@richardschwarzbauer201well yeah he did sell out, he sold a portion of his channel and his business cars and bids. If we were in the same position we would do the same as he did, I definitely would, I mean for the most part it’s the same but yeah I know what you mean
I bought a Manual blue Ferrari Mondial T from 1989 and 64000km so about 40k miles just 3 Weeks ago here in Germany! So great Timing reviewing this! My Mondial T has blue exterieur and baby-blue interieur, now before you tell me that's ugly, it looks surprisingly good on that Car and apparently there are several Mondial Ts with that Combination. Also Doug, great to see that this Mondial also comes with the Leather Toolkit Bag, mine did too which surprised me. But one Mystery about my Mondial: Mine also came with an Agip/Ferrari branded black Bag but sadly whatever was in there is missing, i'd love to find out what that was for Prost & Cheers from Berchtesgaden in the Bavarian Alps
As for the key, per Cornes Motors (San Diego's original Ferrari, Rolls-Royce and Bentley Dealer, now gone) the key folded that was to reduce the amount of stress on the ignition IF you had additional keys and key rings attached. Having the hinge reduced the pressure that a Straight Headed key would have from gravity, by brining the attachments closer to the dashboard.
Very cool, I never knew that. I wish manufacturers would still do that. I remember watching an episode of Motorweek on Goss' garage (Pat has now passed) where he showed how the weight of the extra keys damages the lock cylinder and internal mechanism.
I find the "entry level" Ferrari's (California, Portofino, Mondial), more interesting than the supercars because those are something you can actually use and so I find it more interesting what it's like to live with. Edit: I wish that faux manual thing you described at 10:20 stuck around. Seems like a good compromise to me. I'm sure it was a servicing nightmare but what Ferrari isn't.
Automated clutches are hard to drive at slow speeds so they never did well. Saab tried it in the 90s and you can find a video of Top Gear crucifying the system (called Sensonic).
This is a supercar that will get its butt kicked by any modern sports car. No thanks, I'll take modern reliability and creature comforts over this "not so bad" Ferrari.
I’ve owned a 87 3.2 cab for the last 3 years and love it! It can hold 4, two adults and 2 children with ease. It is the only 4 seat mid engine convertible to ever be produced and that alone has its merits. I have a performance muffler on mine and it just opens up the experience that much more especially with the top down. I’m glad these cars are finally getting their due credit as was given by Chris Harris in his personal 3.2 cab. How can you go wrong with a Ferrari, gated manual, a full size spare, a usable trunk and room for 4? The maintenance isn’t bad in the earlier cars. The T requires engine out service just like the 348 which shares the same engine. Good luck to the next owner and enjoy it on good health.
I’ve always loved the Mondial and had no idea it wasn’t the “cool” Ferrari until someone told me that. The funny thing is that I’d rather have that Mondial over the new California all day long. Great video and thanks for paying homage to a real cool car from a great era! 👍
As recently as the 2010’s people hated the Dino (much like the Mondial) and nice examples were selling for 30k, try finding one for that price now. My point being the Mondial will have its time to shine soon as well, of that I’m sure.
I actually really like the Ferrari Mondial. Especially in the convertible body style, I think it's pretty attractive. The side view isn't great, yes it looks like a yellow tabletop from the side, but otherwise it pulls through on most of the design ques from Ferrari in the 80s. I could seriously love this thing if I had it sitting in my garage as my sports car.
And also to lock the transmission mechanically in reverse (or Park). But yeah, good for driver safety and more logical in terms of ignition-gearshift-handbrake sequencing.
I fell in love with this Ferrari in the movie ‘Weird Science” (also that 928). The next time was when, fellow Canadian, Micheal J. Fox bought one new… once he began making some of that ‘Hollywood’ kinda money. Thanks for the video.
If I buy a car, I'm buying it for my enjoyment. This is the first Mondial convertible I've seen and I'd go for the coupe too. Ferrari has never built a bad-driving car.
These always remind me of my brother in law. Mainly because he took the opportunity to get in one and drive it away after the owner left the keys in it at a petrol station. Thankfully he's a reformed character these days.
Great video Doug, but I wish I hadn’t of watched it. The reason is, back in about 1999, when I was 15, I went to my local Ford dealership in the UK, which my dad was extending the workshop on. There was a crashed damaged Ferrari Mondail, in a light blue colour. It was a coupe with white leather. And yes , it wasn’t in the best shape, but I was offered the car for £500! They just wanted it gone, as it was taking up room. I tried to talk my dad into letting me buy it, but he said no. 😢 😂
I always wanted to make my own customized Mondial cabrio after seeing one listed once. Add 355 front bumper, 355 rear tail lights, a painted lower rocker panel, and a larger more sculptural side scoop (addressing the worst styling cue of the car). MAYBE even adding a widebody rear fender flare as an ode to the 288. Just need to find buried treasure somewhere to make it happen.
You should have concentrated on its handling. The handling is immense. I have both the Mondial T and 328 and it handles way better, like its on rails. Bonus fact... it remains the world's only 4 seater mid-engined cabriolet/convertible. Name me another if you can.
Came real close to getting one of these in the early 2000's with low miles for about 25k. Ultimately passed, but always liked the idea of an affordable Ferrari!
I've always really liked the mondial actually, really like the styling (of the coupe I must admit) and the mid engine v8 with the dog leg manual is very ferrari. Obviously a lovely interior so i am very fond of these cars
Ferrari never considered the Mondial "entry level". It was actually priced higher than the 308/328 and just under the Testarossa when new. Also, cabriolet production was much higher than coupe. The T model coupes are especially rare, especially in North America. I love my triple black 87 vert and don't really worry too much about what anyone else thinks of it's styling. Looks are always subjective.
I’ve owned several Ferrari’s now. I had a 348 for about fifteen years. I have a beautiful 08 F430 spider at the moment. I don’t mind the look of this car at all. I’d be happy to own this. Another thing, the Dino variant engine in this Ferrari is glorious sounding.
Been warming up to Mondials in the last decade or so. The convertible especially really looks good to my eyes, and nowadays I don't much mind the coupe's C pillar and buttress design anymore. Consider this: the Mondial convertible is the ONLY mid-engined four seater convertible ever made. Pretty unique! The coupe is in illustrious company with other 2+2s, like its 308GT4 predecessor, that car's Urraco sister car, the Merak SS and more recently the Evora and BMW i8, all trying to beat the 911 in its own game.
@@hansmuller7161 Yes, but not a four-seater. They say the Boxster is a roadster, because it has two seats, but I think that's a misnomer as roadsters are front engined. The Boxster is a spyder. The open top Mondial is a Cabriolet.
These 80s Ferraris are majestic. It does not matter if the Ferrari Mondial is the entry level Ferrari. It's still a really cool and in my opinion, beautiful car
Volkswagen also had an automatic clutch set up. This was years before this car though I think in 1969 and some other year bugs. Anyway you would shift it like a normal bug but no clutch pedal. My wife had one when we were in high school and it worked great. No issues at all.
Have driven one of these cars and can confirm, it's a lot of fun, and it makes that "Ferrari sound". Wound up going with a bit newer Porsche instead as a concession to reliability and overall usability. That was the right call, financially. But that gated shifter... and the sound... nothing else has that.
I went for the 1988 Mondial 3.2 convertible back in 2001 since I already had a 348TB so we could put a push chair and our baby daughter in it. Now my daughter is starting to drive it and loves it for it's 80's feeling, finding it even cooler than our 458 spider. The Mondial may not be the fastest or best loved but it's the one we would never part with!
In real life this transmission was quite bad... and as already mentioned, a few different brands experimented with it, even Fiat Seicento had one here in Europe (Citymatic).
Doug, The Mondial t coupe is super rare. Only sold in US in 1989 and only about 85 units imported. Very rare. Personally I think the coupe looks better.
Styling wise the Mondial mainly needs the right wheels. Something larger, and maybe with more negative offset (ie; deeper dish / more concave). If you Google image Mondial wheels you can see some good ones. Several people have used 348 wheels which look decent.
Just wanted to chime in and say the Alfa 164 had adjustable suspension on several models, and was around the time of this car as well. The early Italian adjustable suspensions actually work really well, my 164S goes from modern Lexus gliding over bumps to an NA Miata when you flip the switch.
A very good presentation of the Ferrari Mondial! I had the chance to drive this car for a couple of years and I was really surprised how good it was and what a pleasure it is to drive! I can fully recomment the Mondial to an enthusiast who likes to enter the Ferrari world. This car is totally underrated and so much fun to drive. I like the looks of the exterior but also of the interior. Just a clean and stylish design. I am always happy whenever I see one of these!
Finally Doug reviews a Mondial! A couple of points: yes, the Mondial 8 was slow, but so were injected 2-valve 308's. The QV's, 3.2's, and the t's were considerably faster. And look at other makes in early '80's. A C3 Corvette of the day had less than 200 hp.... I wouldn't say that the T is "by far the most desirable"; the 348 isn't necessarily more desirable than the 328. The earlier Mondials don't need an engine out service to change the cam belts, which is big plus for alot of people.... That blank switch on the center console I think would have been for the glove box. Doug would love the earlier Mondials with the array of warning lights and switches in the center console -- far 'quirkier' than the T's. ... I think there would have been a spare wheel in the front trunk (at least in the earlier models). Finally, Mondials cost (marginally) more than the corresponding 3x8's. So not really an entry level Ferrari, esp. in the early 80's in the US, where the Mondial and the 308 were basically the only Ferrari's available.
The weird automatic (actually what’s called an automatic stickshift, or Autostick) was quite common in Europe in the ‘60s and ’70s, available from Volkswagen, Opel, Porsche and I’m quite sure other makes.
Just bought a Mondial in April with my dad , after a 500C "Topolino", a 500L, an Autobianchi Y10 "Fila" , 3 Vespas and 2 vintage motorcycles... We realized our dream as Italians... to buy a Ferrari... It's a 3.0 Quattrovalvole born in 1984. Its ex owner was a famous italian actor that had it for his entire life till he died in 2021, and he just put 35k km on it, color Rosso Corsa, and it's still 100% original , with number plate Roma. I feel blessed at 23 to just ride this beauty around, with everyone staring at her...
My dad is an original owner of one of these with a 1989 Mondial T Coupe MT. He used to daily it until very recently finally getting a newer sports car but it's a good car. Just terrible to maintain and find parts for. There's several things that are broken on it but we've worked around those. The Seatbelt tensioners, Electronic dampener controller, sun roof switch, fuel door switch, and turn signals stalk are all broken. It's currently in need of a new coolant reservoir so we're waiting on parts before we can drive it again. He's thinking of selling it, let's see how this one does.
Couple of things, the Mondial was never the entry level Ferrari, they were always more expensive than the 308/328 to buy new. All Mondials have gated shifters, not just the T. And the T should have power steering, it was the only Mondial that came with it, along with ABS. The original 8 made 205bhp not 215. And yes, I do have one, a 1983 QV in red, and it is wonderful (and a bargain!).
Loved the Mondial since I first saw it in Weird Science. Watch a beautiful woman being built? Nope. Watch a gorgeous red Mondial drift around a corner? Absolutely!
I think I knew about it before that movie but yeah seeing it in Weird Science was awesome. I always thought it was a good looking car and never really understood the hate. Again, just like today, most of the haters are people who never get anywhere near the car, let alone drive it.
Regarding the suspension setting switch, my dad actually ran a limo company back in the late 90's and early 2000's and his "bridal" car was a 56 Bentley S-1 and it ALSO had a.... wait for it.... suspension control switch! YOWZA!
The Mondial T is really no comparison to the regular Mondial (the engine changed from transverse to longitudinal) With some styling changes, they could have made it into a brand new model.
Mondial is an entry level Ferrari. Good place to start to get to know all the quirks of owning a Ferrari and the costs. I bought mine back in 1995 before moving into a Modena and then to 458. Loved the car. Very capable car, albeit underpowered. Handling world class for the time. Drove it in rain and snow. Even put chains on it for the Pennsylvania winter back then. Made it from NM to Calif. in 110 degree heat with AC on hitting 150mph plus and not even a hiccup. As long as you use it everyday, drives like any other normal reliable car.
I remember seeing one of these as background in an ad in R&T or C&D in the 80s, and being instantly in love with the design. But it was just an ad for something else, so I had no idea what it was. It looked like a Ferrari, but that's all I knew about it.
It looks a little bit long in the middle, but otherwise a handsome car, especially in yellow. But I've always had a soft spot for these cars, probably because a doctor in town had a red coupe when I was in high school in the early 80's, seeing any Ferrari around town back then was special.
I'd LOVE to see you review a 456. Another car that was criticized in it's time but has aged quite well IMHO. I think its a beautiful car. Not quite like a 550 but still an interesting, beautiful, under appreciated Ferarri.
Had one of these as my daily driver for two years in the 90s and loved it. Much better ride and handling compared to a 348 or 355, more space for luggage and buying it two years old with 4k miles it was cheaper than the two seaters. Doug is right about the wheels, l had to replace them with something more stylish. I sold it with 23k miles and almost broke even. I totally agree with Doug but l still own one of the last imported 412 manuals that l really enjoy so......
My 1986 Mazda 626 Turbo had adjustable suspension as there was a switch that could adjust it from normal to sport. I believe many Nissan models at the time had that as well '83-'89 300ZX and the Nissan 200SX
Leave it to Doug to really get to the bottom of the Mondial. Most Ferrari collectors of this era go straight to the 308/328/348 and bypass the Mondial because of looks or image. But underneath it's got much of the same running gear and the same driving experience. If you can get past the looks, it's a bargain compared to the others. A similar fate befell the 308 GT-4 but those are now gaining some appreciation in both image and value. The Mondial will probably follow that trend.
Hey Doug. I agree with your opinions about the Mondial's attributes of good performance, relatively low cost of a vintage Ferrari. More importantly the feel and sound quality of its mechanical operation. There's something quite mesmerizing and distinctive about the high-end vehicles of those days. Lamborghini's and Ferraris of that era made me think that only an airline pilot would be qualified to drive one. Porsche's flat 6 had such a (mechanically precise) sound quality, I'd often lower my door window just to hear it better. Too many cars (today) look too much alike and definitely have lost the mystique of being anything special.
Wow that horn sound!! Very rarely do you hear a two toned horn pitched a minor second apart! (Like adjacent black and white key on the piano!!) Most two toned horns used a major third or minor third
I knew virtually nothing about the Ferrari Mondial, as they never looked interesting to me compared to cars like the Ferrari Testarossa, 512tr, F40, F50, and so.on... the cars people think about when they usually think of Ferrari. But now I am educated on this car, so thank you Doug. I love watching the videos on the more enigmatic and less well known car models on this channel to grow my car knowledge.
Doug, do house reviews again. I loved it! I understand if nobody else enjoyed it and you don’t want to waste your time but I thought you were great at it.
Those center buttons are OUTRAGEOUS. So slapdash that Ferrari would put those random two-way window switches (IE, whatever was lying around) to open all these things and put them right in the middle of the console spaced out so far with minimal effort to the graphics. So Italian and hilarious. Part of the charm of the car now, but what the heck honestly.
People also don't realize that's the same V8 that Ferrari put in everything, up through the 360, including the F40. The Dino V8 was reworked, retuned, and turbocharged in various iterations. But the Mondial engine is way more similar to the F40 than a lot of people realize.
Living in southern California. I still see a few Ferrari mondials around. Older guys bringing them out on the weekend. And although I've always known that the mondial is not the appreciated Ferrari I think they still look really nice and you can take more than one person for a ride. Obviously the convertible is sweet for California and I would have no problem owning and driving this car. Watching the video, I never realized the mondial had such a ridiculously high and awkward front wheel arch
The Semi automatic transmission You describe is actually something that has been in the automotive industry since the 1930s when cord came out with the 810 Sedan. This car was the first vehicle to be sold with a presselector automated manual transmission Which operates the exact same way as the Ferrari mondial
The automatic system reminded me of the fifties Beetle system the Saxomat and the later two speed that was used until 1975 in production.. Or The French electromagnetic systems from Renault in the sixties used in the Dauphine, Renault 8 and Renault 10 Major…from Jaeger..
Doug really is a type of guy.
Big if tru
very true
Amazes me how stupid, inane comments like this get so many thumbs up.
Big facts
Hot take
Pity Doug doesn't give short previews anymore of upcoming reviews. A hint of what's to come was a great idea imo.
You get Doug in a matching tshirt. What more do you want?
Shame he doesn't really do cars that aren't either obviously sponsored in some way by a manufacturer or are for sale on cars and bids. The videos are still good, but the channel has lost lots of its appeal and charm. Feel like he sold out after launching cars and bids
@@richardschwarzbauer201 Agreed.
@@richardschwarzbauer201well yeah he did sell out, he sold a portion of his channel and his business cars and bids. If we were in the same position we would do the same as he did, I definitely would, I mean for the most part it’s the same but yeah I know what you mean
Agreed, giving those teasers was cool and built up anticipation
I bought a Manual blue Ferrari Mondial T from 1989 and 64000km so about 40k miles just 3 Weeks ago here in Germany! So great Timing reviewing this!
My Mondial T has blue exterieur and baby-blue interieur, now before you tell me that's ugly, it looks surprisingly good on that Car and apparently there are several Mondial Ts with that Combination.
Also Doug, great to see that this Mondial also comes with the Leather Toolkit Bag, mine did too which surprised me.
But one Mystery about my Mondial: Mine also came with an Agip/Ferrari branded black Bag but sadly whatever was in there is missing, i'd love to find out what that was for
Prost & Cheers from Berchtesgaden in the Bavarian Alps
I’m envious, you have a manual Ferrari in one of the most beautiful places on earth!
That would have been a tire inflator kit.
What a significant place to live. Under the shadow od the Fuhrer. Just kidding..
Blue and blue, sounds nice
That blue on blue is really nice! I'd rather have blue than yellow, congratulations on your purchase! Take good care of it on the Nürburgring!
As for the key, per Cornes Motors (San Diego's original Ferrari, Rolls-Royce and Bentley Dealer, now gone) the key folded that was to reduce the amount of stress on the ignition IF you had additional keys and key rings attached. Having the hinge reduced the pressure that a Straight Headed key would have from gravity, by brining the attachments closer to the dashboard.
Well definitely is.
Very cool, I never knew that. I wish manufacturers would still do that.
I remember watching an episode of Motorweek on Goss' garage (Pat has now passed) where he showed how the weight of the extra keys damages the lock cylinder and internal mechanism.
I find the "entry level" Ferrari's (California, Portofino, Mondial), more interesting than the supercars because those are something you can actually use and so I find it more interesting what it's like to live with.
Edit: I wish that faux manual thing you described at 10:20 stuck around. Seems like a good compromise to me. I'm sure it was a servicing nightmare but what Ferrari isn't.
Automated clutches are hard to drive at slow speeds so they never did well. Saab tried it in the 90s and you can find a video of Top Gear crucifying the system (called Sensonic).
@@Ty4ons makes sense. I vaguely remember the Saab thing.
My friend had an auto stick early '70's VW beetle in high school. Worked similarly
Gianni Agnelli had a Valeo transmission specially installed in his F40 because he had trouble pressing the clutch pedal due to his leg injury
This is a supercar that will get its butt kicked by any modern sports car. No thanks, I'll take modern reliability and creature comforts over this "not so bad" Ferrari.
I’ve owned a 87 3.2 cab for the last 3 years and love it! It can hold 4, two adults and 2 children with ease. It is the only 4 seat mid engine convertible to ever be produced and that alone has its merits. I have a performance muffler on mine and it just opens up the experience that much more especially with the top down. I’m glad these cars are finally getting their due credit as was given by Chris Harris in his personal 3.2 cab. How can you go wrong with a Ferrari, gated manual, a full size spare, a usable trunk and room for 4? The maintenance isn’t bad in the earlier cars. The T requires engine out service just like the 348 which shares the same engine. Good luck to the next owner and enjoy it on good health.
😂Sure
@@SVW1976the Mondial for me has chassis from Testarosa and engine from F40.
Do have a liking for these, for some reason. Mid engine V8 four seat soft top. Just about the right amount of crazy.
My first Fefe was a Mondial 3.2. I loved it. Can be 3 Inside, cost of maintenance not too high, pleasant to drive
Pop up headlight ❤️
Alas, the Mondial T update made maintenance much more expensive. Engine went longitudinal and the (frequent) timing maintenance is engine-out.
I’ve always loved the Mondial and had no idea it wasn’t the “cool” Ferrari until someone told me that. The funny thing is that I’d rather have that Mondial over the new California all day long. Great video and thanks for paying homage to a real cool car from a great era! 👍
You'd rather have a Mondial? You're an eccentric geriatric lol.
As recently as the 2010’s people hated the Dino (much like the Mondial) and nice examples were selling for 30k, try finding one for that price now. My point being the Mondial will have its time to shine soon as well, of that I’m sure.
I would have jumped on the 30k price. Best I could find was $150k around that time with “Flairs and Chairs”- still kicking myself
Yes!
I actually really like the Ferrari Mondial. Especially in the convertible body style, I think it's pretty attractive. The side view isn't great, yes it looks like a yellow tabletop from the side, but otherwise it pulls through on most of the design ques from Ferrari in the 80s. I could seriously love this thing if I had it sitting in my garage as my sports car.
Looks good in yellow too
@@Sevan_UP that it does
@@Sevan_UPand also has esque from Ferrari F40.
@@Sevan_UPand it looks like those rare 80s synthwave cars you see on those neon synthwave backgrounds
Part of the reason Saab put the key between the seats was to avoid it going into your knee in an accident. No folding key.
And also to lock the transmission mechanically in reverse (or Park). But yeah, good for driver safety and more logical in terms of ignition-gearshift-handbrake sequencing.
I fell in love with this Ferrari in the movie ‘Weird Science” (also that 928). The next time was when, fellow Canadian, Micheal J. Fox bought one new… once he began making some of that ‘Hollywood’ kinda money. Thanks for the video.
My dad had one of these when I was a kid so I've always had a soft spot for the Mondial. Very happy to see it get some praise for once :)
If you love a car, the least of your worries should be what others think of it. I always liked the Mondial, but I would choose for a coupe
If I buy a car, I'm buying it for my enjoyment. This is the first Mondial convertible I've seen and I'd go for the coupe too. Ferrari has never built a bad-driving car.
like half the reason most people buy cars like this is to flaunt them
These always remind me of my brother in law. Mainly because he took the opportunity to get in one and drive it away after the owner left the keys in it at a petrol station. Thankfully he's a reformed character these days.
you think anyone came here hoping to hear about your BiL? wow
Great video Doug, but I wish I hadn’t of watched it. The reason is, back in about 1999, when I was 15, I went to my local Ford dealership in the UK, which my dad was extending the workshop on. There was a crashed damaged Ferrari Mondail, in a light blue colour. It was a coupe with white leather. And yes , it wasn’t in the best shape, but I was offered the car for £500! They just wanted it gone, as it was taking up room. I tried to talk my dad into letting me buy it, but he said no. 😢 😂
I always wanted to make my own customized Mondial cabrio after seeing one listed once. Add 355 front bumper, 355 rear tail lights, a painted lower rocker panel, and a larger more sculptural side scoop (addressing the worst styling cue of the car). MAYBE even adding a widebody rear fender flare as an ode to the 288. Just need to find buried treasure somewhere to make it happen.
You should have concentrated on its handling. The handling is immense. I have both the Mondial T and 328 and it handles way better, like its on rails. Bonus fact... it remains the world's only 4 seater mid-engined cabriolet/convertible. Name me another if you can.
The Amphicar 😉
Lotus Evora if we consider the Mondial coupé. 2+2 rear midengine car.
Does this version of the Mondial require an engine out service like the 348 for a cam belt change?
The Dutton Reef, an amphibious kit car based on Ford Fiesta running gear.
Came real close to getting one of these in the early 2000's with low miles for about 25k. Ultimately passed, but always liked the idea of an affordable Ferrari!
Doug the type of guy to give his wife a doug score
right after the Doug style
Before or after test drive?
He's usually reviewing other people's cars, so, wouldn't he be giving your wife a Doug score?
@@forbiddenera now that is what I call an argument
I would absolutely love to hear Doug’s thoughts on the automatic transmission for this car, this is the first I’ve heard of it!
Valeos are NOT automatics.
I've always really liked the mondial actually, really like the styling (of the coupe I must admit) and the mid engine v8 with the dog leg manual is very ferrari. Obviously a lovely interior so i am very fond of these cars
That wheel and dash cluster is something I could look at forever. Especially at dusk with the lights on. They really got it right.
Make more quirky rare car reviews
Those reviews come about by people offering their cars to him. He can’t just HAVE them all lol.
@@devongee1776I thought Dougade a video of a new car.
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Yeah review a Morris Marina coupe.
Love to see the tool kit; back when car manufacturers actually made it possible for you to work on your own vehicle 😂
Agree bro.
Now you can't even see your engine
Ferrari never considered the Mondial "entry level". It was actually priced higher than the 308/328 and just under the Testarossa when new. Also, cabriolet production was much higher than coupe. The T model coupes are especially rare, especially in North America. I love my triple black 87 vert and don't really worry too much about what anyone else thinks of it's styling. Looks are always subjective.
I’ve owned several Ferrari’s now. I had a 348 for about fifteen years. I have a beautiful 08 F430 spider at the moment. I don’t mind the look of this car at all. I’d be happy to own this. Another thing, the Dino variant engine in this Ferrari is glorious sounding.
Hey Doug! Not sure which car had the first adjustable suspension, but in 1984 the z31 turbo had it. Pretty neat!
An 1854 horse model had adjustable suspension, constant variable suspension
My faith in Doug has been rocked by the revelation that he considers the iconic two-tone Ferrari horn “ridiculous”…
Love it. Gorgeous and practical, just enough straight edge styling and very practical. Great video Doug. Thanks
Been warming up to Mondials in the last decade or so. The convertible especially really looks good to my eyes, and nowadays I don't much mind the coupe's C pillar and buttress design anymore. Consider this: the Mondial convertible is the ONLY mid-engined four seater convertible ever made. Pretty unique! The coupe is in illustrious company with other 2+2s, like its 308GT4 predecessor, that car's Urraco sister car, the Merak SS and more recently the Evora and BMW i8, all trying to beat the 911 in its own game.
i thought also porsche boxster was mid engine convertible :O
@@hansmuller7161 Yes, but not a four-seater. They say the Boxster is a roadster, because it has two seats, but I think that's a misnomer as roadsters are front engined. The Boxster is a spyder. The open top Mondial is a Cabriolet.
These 80s Ferraris are majestic. It does not matter if the Ferrari Mondial is the entry level Ferrari. It's still a really cool and in my opinion, beautiful car
Volkswagen also had an automatic clutch set up. This was years before this car though I think in 1969 and some other year bugs. Anyway you would shift it like a normal bug but no clutch pedal. My wife had one when we were in high school and it worked great. No issues at all.
I was waiting for Doug to say “and it’s mine!”
Have driven one of these cars and can confirm, it's a lot of fun, and it makes that "Ferrari sound". Wound up going with a bit newer Porsche instead as a concession to reliability and overall usability. That was the right call, financially. But that gated shifter... and the sound... nothing else has that.
It was the 80s. Almost everything had low power, but compared to many of the cars today, this machine looks absolutely beautiful, IMO.
I wouldn't call it beautiful. It doesn't look bad, it looks like a Toyota Corolla from the same era.
@@kristofsznida724 No, it doesn't look like a Corolla. You need to have your eyes checked out.
@@heiner71 The coupe very much looks like an AE86 Corolla.
This car reminds me so much of GTA Vice City.
I went for the 1988 Mondial 3.2 convertible back in 2001 since I already had a 348TB so we could put a push chair and our baby daughter in it.
Now my daughter is starting to drive it and loves it for it's 80's feeling, finding it even cooler than our 458 spider.
The Mondial may not be the fastest or best loved but it's the one we would never part with!
I love the idea of that automatic that Doug mentioned. Sounds far more interesting and fun than modern day paddle shifters.
The idea wasn't new. The NSU Ro 80 (1967-1977) also had an automatic clutch that worked the same way.
Well thats interesting now.
In real life this transmission was quite bad... and as already mentioned, a few different brands experimented with it, even Fiat Seicento had one here in Europe (Citymatic).
When it comes to cars, I've always liked the "underdogs," and this one is probably my favorite, and I don't care what anyone says.
Doug, the kind of guy who refers to a van as an enclosed pickup truck.
Doug,
The Mondial t coupe is super rare. Only sold in US in 1989 and only about 85 units imported. Very rare. Personally I think the coupe looks better.
Styling wise the Mondial mainly needs the right wheels. Something larger, and maybe with more negative offset (ie; deeper dish / more concave). If you Google image Mondial wheels you can see some good ones. Several people have used 348 wheels which look decent.
Just wanted to chime in and say the Alfa 164 had adjustable suspension on several models, and was around the time of this car as well. The early Italian adjustable suspensions actually work really well, my 164S goes from modern Lexus gliding over bumps to an NA Miata when you flip the switch.
A very good presentation of the Ferrari Mondial! I had the chance to drive this car for a couple of years and I was really surprised how good it was and what a pleasure it is to drive! I can fully recomment the Mondial to an enthusiast who likes to enter the Ferrari world. This car is totally underrated and so much fun to drive. I like the looks of the exterior but also of the interior. Just a clean and stylish design. I am always happy whenever I see one of these!
Finally Doug reviews a Mondial! A couple of points: yes, the Mondial 8 was slow, but so were injected 2-valve 308's. The QV's, 3.2's, and the t's were considerably faster. And look at other makes in early '80's. A C3 Corvette of the day had less than 200 hp.... I wouldn't say that the T is "by far the most desirable"; the 348 isn't necessarily more desirable than the 328. The earlier Mondials don't need an engine out service to change the cam belts, which is big plus for alot of people.... That blank switch on the center console I think would have been for the glove box. Doug would love the earlier Mondials with the array of warning lights and switches in the center console -- far 'quirkier' than the T's. ... I think there would have been a spare wheel in the front trunk (at least in the earlier models). Finally, Mondials cost (marginally) more than the corresponding 3x8's. So not really an entry level Ferrari, esp. in the early 80's in the US, where the Mondial and the 308 were basically the only Ferrari's available.
Doug the kind of guy to a rent a car to go on a date.
The weird automatic (actually what’s called an automatic stickshift, or Autostick) was quite common in Europe in the ‘60s and ’70s, available from Volkswagen, Opel, Porsche and I’m quite sure other makes.
Doug the type of guy to be a type of guy
Just bought a Mondial in April with my dad , after a 500C "Topolino", a 500L, an Autobianchi Y10 "Fila" , 3 Vespas and 2 vintage motorcycles... We realized our dream as Italians... to buy a Ferrari... It's a 3.0 Quattrovalvole born in 1984. Its ex owner was a famous italian actor that had it for his entire life till he died in 2021, and he just put 35k km on it, color Rosso Corsa, and it's still 100% original , with number plate Roma. I feel blessed at 23 to just ride this beauty around, with everyone staring at her...
How hard ($) is it to maintain this thing?
The fact that Doug feels the need to explain motorized antennae makes me think I might already be old
I love how he just calmly called people who don't like the Mondial stupid. Outstanding
My dad is an original owner of one of these with a 1989 Mondial T Coupe MT. He used to daily it until very recently finally getting a newer sports car but it's a good car. Just terrible to maintain and find parts for. There's several things that are broken on it but we've worked around those. The Seatbelt tensioners, Electronic dampener controller, sun roof switch, fuel door switch, and turn signals stalk are all broken. It's currently in need of a new coolant reservoir so we're waiting on parts before we can drive it again. He's thinking of selling it, let's see how this one does.
Vice city
Just a thought. Give up on the concrete, brutalist archetecture for better sound. Doug's garage sounds so much better. Nice car!
Couple of things, the Mondial was never the entry level Ferrari, they were always more expensive than the 308/328 to buy new. All Mondials have gated shifters, not just the T. And the T should have power steering, it was the only Mondial that came with it, along with ABS. The original 8 made 205bhp not 215. And yes, I do have one, a 1983 QV in red, and it is wonderful (and a bargain!).
205hp like the 1984 C4 corvette with crossfire injection.
@@espritmike is that the one they call 'can't fire' :P
Teasing 400 for one frame. Would love a video on one, my favorite design by far.
Love these cars. And the 308 gt/4 . Great cars that have aged really well.
Man getting tired of the Dungeon setting smh
You know what? A clutchless gated manual sounds pretty cool. I'd actually be willing to use a manual if it was like that.
Loved the Mondial since I first saw it in Weird Science. Watch a beautiful woman being built? Nope. Watch a gorgeous red Mondial drift around a corner? Absolutely!
I think I knew about it before that movie but yeah seeing it in Weird Science was awesome. I always thought it was a good looking car and never really understood the hate. Again, just like today, most of the haters are people who never get anywhere near the car, let alone drive it.
Regarding the suspension setting switch, my dad actually ran a limo company back in the late 90's and early 2000's and his "bridal" car was a 56 Bentley S-1 and it ALSO had a.... wait for it.... suspension control switch! YOWZA!
From the factory?
@@carltonleboss I believe so, although in that time, there were so many coach built specialized things on them that there's really telling
The Mondial T is really no comparison to the regular Mondial (the engine changed from transverse to longitudinal) With some styling changes, they could have made it into a brand new model.
Mondial T also has 300bhp like Corolla WRC.
Mondial is an entry level Ferrari. Good place to start to get to know all the quirks of owning a Ferrari and the costs. I bought mine back in 1995 before moving into a Modena and then to 458. Loved the car. Very capable car, albeit underpowered. Handling world class for the time. Drove it in rain and snow. Even put chains on it for the Pennsylvania winter back then.
Made it from NM to Calif. in 110 degree heat with AC on hitting 150mph plus and not even a hiccup. As long as you use it everyday, drives like any other normal reliable car.
For the money, THE best Ferrari ever built. Haters always hating…!!
I remember seeing one of these as background in an ad in R&T or C&D in the 80s, and being instantly in love with the design. But it was just an ad for something else, so I had no idea what it was. It looked like a Ferrari, but that's all I knew about it.
It looks a little bit long in the middle, but otherwise a handsome car, especially in yellow. But I've always had a soft spot for these cars, probably because a doctor in town had a red coupe when I was in high school in the early 80's, seeing any Ferrari around town back then was special.
Doug has reviewed dozens of cars with the “fly away” parking brake but still claims they’re rare and bizarre 😂
10:18 semi trucks used to have the opposite. An Automated manual with a clutch. You used the clutch when coming to a stop and taking off
my neibhour had one - red with beige interior. Bought in 91, sold in 2022- for me it looks extra! it is so low and long. I simply love it
I'd LOVE to see you review a 456. Another car that was criticized in it's time but has aged quite well IMHO. I think its a beautiful car. Not quite like a 550 but still an interesting, beautiful, under appreciated Ferarri.
Had one of these as my daily driver for two years in the 90s and loved it. Much better ride and handling compared to a 348 or 355, more space for luggage and buying it two years old with 4k miles it was cheaper than the two seaters. Doug is right about the wheels, l had to replace them with something more stylish. I sold it with 23k miles and almost broke even. I totally agree with Doug but l still own one of the last imported 412 manuals that l really enjoy so......
I got to sit in a Mondial years ago. It was the best day of my life!
I've never seen a car that looked so much like doug
for some reason i could definitely see him owning this over the countach he just got. We all know he don’t fit in there, he just bought it to flex 🗿
How have I not heard of this Ferrari before!, And I call myself a car guy...
My 1986 Mazda 626 Turbo had adjustable suspension as there was a switch that could adjust it from normal to sport. I believe many Nissan models at the time had that as well '83-'89 300ZX and the Nissan 200SX
I love the gear shifter with that metal plate on the bottom. Actually i love that since a little kid. It's super duper cool.
Always like the Mondial! Saw a few here in Louisville, in the early 90s. Only saw the red. Love the yellow, though. Love the coupe.
Leave it to Doug to really get to the bottom of the Mondial. Most Ferrari collectors of this era go straight to the 308/328/348 and bypass the Mondial because of looks or image. But underneath it's got much of the same running gear and the same driving experience. If you can get past the looks, it's a bargain compared to the others.
A similar fate befell the 308 GT-4 but those are now gaining some appreciation in both image and value. The Mondial will probably follow that trend.
Hey Doug. I agree with your opinions about the Mondial's attributes of good performance, relatively low cost of a vintage Ferrari. More importantly the feel and sound quality of its mechanical operation. There's something quite mesmerizing and distinctive about the high-end vehicles of those days. Lamborghini's and Ferraris of that era made me think that only an airline pilot would be qualified to drive one. Porsche's flat 6 had such a (mechanically precise) sound quality, I'd often lower my door window just to hear it better.
Too many cars (today) look too much alike and definitely have lost the mystique of being anything special.
10:43 my man sitting in utter darkness and depression, honking away 😂😂
Gauge font is pretty cool, I'd love that as a skin on a modern electronic dash interface
Wow that horn sound!! Very rarely do you hear a two toned horn pitched a minor second apart! (Like adjacent black and white key on the piano!!)
Most two toned horns used a major third or minor third
Doug is the type of guy to wear a volvo shirt while reviewing a Ferrari
I always liked the look of the Mondial.. I think it's kida cute like the 70s Fiats!
On the edge of WW3 , Doug is throwing us the mind cure. Watching you since 2018 or 2017 . Thanks man
I knew virtually nothing about the Ferrari Mondial, as they never looked interesting to me compared to cars like the Ferrari Testarossa, 512tr, F40, F50, and so.on... the cars people think about when they usually think of Ferrari. But now I am educated on this car, so thank you Doug. I love watching the videos on the more enigmatic and less well known car models on this channel to grow my car knowledge.
Doug, do house reviews again. I loved it! I understand if nobody else enjoyed it and you don’t want to waste your time but I thought you were great at it.
Those center buttons are OUTRAGEOUS. So slapdash that Ferrari would put those random two-way window switches (IE, whatever was lying around) to open all these things and put them right in the middle of the console spaced out so far with minimal effort to the graphics. So Italian and hilarious. Part of the charm of the car now, but what the heck honestly.
People also don't realize that's the same V8 that Ferrari put in everything, up through the 360, including the F40. The Dino V8 was reworked, retuned, and turbocharged in various iterations. But the Mondial engine is way more similar to the F40 than a lot of people realize.
Finally! I asked you 4years ago to review this car!
Living in southern California. I still see a few Ferrari mondials around. Older guys bringing them out on the weekend. And although I've always known that the mondial is not the appreciated Ferrari I think they still look really nice and you can take more than one person for a ride. Obviously the convertible is sweet for California and I would have no problem owning and driving this car.
Watching the video, I never realized the mondial had such a ridiculously high and awkward front wheel arch
Those folding keys... you see those for some of the keg/tap/coolers that we work with at my job.
I think this is the final proof that we are done with those terrible joint reviews as we have a ferrari review and thankfully, no Kennan to be found.
I find it to be a very nice looking car.
The Semi automatic transmission You describe is actually something that has been in the automotive industry since the 1930s when cord came out with the 810 Sedan. This car was the first vehicle to be sold with a presselector automated manual transmission Which operates the exact same way as the Ferrari mondial
The automatic system reminded me of the fifties Beetle system the Saxomat and the later two speed that was used until 1975 in production..
Or The French electromagnetic systems from Renault in the sixties used in the Dauphine, Renault 8 and Renault 10 Major…from Jaeger..
Everyone of his reviews especially the driving is really positive.
About that adjustable suspension. The 1984 300ZX had same toggle switch for suspension settings I think soft normal and hard 3 settings