The HS2 train is costing between 72 and 98 billion compared to King Charles making 22.7 million. HS2 is the governments project, the same government that has had us under a decade of austerity and strict measures.
I don't envy King Charles III. Giving his whole life and autonomy to service. I would gladly take the freedom I have over his wealth and expectations. But an important cultural and national institution nonetheless. If it wasn't British, people would be begging UNESCO to try and save it. The self loathing of many British is very embarrassing.
@@internethardcase "Service?" You mean stuffing his face while waltzing about in luxury whilst making a speech or two which he himself didn't even write? Oh such an affluent humanitarian is he and his spoilt family... give me a break.
oh no not 100 m estimated which i heard first as well . only 2 days ago it was written in places including in the d . mirror ( are you are sitting down ) is 240 m
In all honesty, the people who are protesting, are probably on low incomes, and may not be paying tax; so would not necessarily be contributing to the monarchy through income tax.
I'm a republican, but at the very least the public shouldn't have to spend a penny on them. If the royal family want pomp and circumstance, they should pay for it themselves.
@@jrgboy Exactly, they can afford their own parades, security, upkeep etc, so there's no need for the public to fund it. If they don't want to pay for it, they can give up their titles.
Heavily agreed, not to mention the abundance of corruption deeply rooted within this country, and the London/Major city centric spending. That’s why the Welsh valleys, Costal North and Southwest have fell behind in development. It’s getting worse by the day. As a Young Cornishman, I have 2 choices. One, take a stand, and defy what this system of corruption wishes for me, or two, leave the country.
Peaceful protest is fine, but obstructing events that other people are there to enjoy is not fine. Peaceful protest is also not really effective, so there is no point. The monarchy has survived through centuries with a proportion of the population opposed to their existence. They know how to survive. That is why they give out knighthoods and other honours. It effectively buys the loyalty of the most influential and powerful people in the country. None of them will want to give up their knighthoods and abolish the monarchy. There will be no benefit (nor any real loss) to anyone from abolition of the monarchy. It isn't worth arguing over!
Totally agree. Don’t stop. They need to disband the monarchy. There is power in the people. With people not being able to pay their bills yet they are paying for a stupid coronation.
OK...cut the corontation.....will the 'people' be 'happy' for very long.... They would be back to square one before you knew it and then wonder who to protest about next....
@@jeffreyhearn8930 Nope. It's about the system altogether. We need a fully democratic system. No monarchy. No house of Lords. No unelected people in government
@@jeffreyhearn8930 I guess the point is that its a bit outdated, they're paying tons for a ruler that isn't really a ruler, nor do they do anything important, they just... exist, it makes sense
The cost of the coronation ..... yet food banks, no appropriate pay rise's for public servants etc. For me, the monarchy maintains the class system, which is pernicious.
The problem here is Capitalism, not the monarchy! USA has no monarchy, but has a bigger wealth divide than the UK. Something like 1% of Americans control 40% of the wealth. Food banks in USA are not overflowing with food. There is no monarchy to blame for this, just Capitalism!
Maybe they should explain how the Monarchy helped in creating and perpetuating the offshore paradise of millionaires and billionaires in the UK. And how it is basically in cahoots with the London City Financial Empire, with their laundering money and avoiding tax offshore schemes.
Let's not forget at how the queen rubber stamped a government scheme to throw the Chagossians off their own island of Chagos, each person only allowed on carrier bag of items and then all shipped off to a jetty on Mauritius, then sell Chagos off to the Yanks. John Pilger made a documentary about it, entitled The Stealing of a Nation.
I am Czech + Slovak dual citizen, so to me a ceremonial president + parliament-backed executive PM makes the most sense. I live in The Kingdom of Denmark, and I respect their tradition, since the country works very well, there is no nonsense such as House of Lords, and the Royals are scandal-free and unite the country. That cannot be said about the UK however.
I live in the USA, a democratic Republic. No kings, queens or aristocracy. However, the troubles in society at large, hungry children, homelessness, sickness, and so on, do not seem to have been alleviated with no money going to a monarchy. I think that British Republicans think the money saved on doing away with a Constitutional Monarchy would all go to helping the dispossessed. It would not. It would go to support the replacement government. And I heard a young lady assume that GB does t have a Constitution. How can such ignorance exist? How can such people have solid opinions when they know seemingly very little? People can believe what they want, but be careful what you wish for.
Exactly! Your comment makes so much sense. They believe without a monarchy, there’ll be no homeless people, everyone will be a millionaire and sleep in golden beds lmao
I agree… 🇲🇾I live in a Country with 9 Sultans from 9 States which goes on rotations every 5 years to be the Paromunt King for the Whole Country. The pass few years have seen us having Political uncertainties and after the Election, did not have enough votes to form a Government from either political parties. The Confrence of Rules ( consists of all the 9 Sultans) that help solved the Problem as per the law. .. therefore It does matter in our Country situation. I cant speak for other Countries with Monarchy but the situation is diffrent for every country..For My Country I disagree.
It’s no different here, and it’s getting worse by the day via the current government me currently have in the UK. The Monarchy does naff all and don’t have any real POWER. It’s the government of the day who rules the roost and they are slowly chipping away at our rights, and causing people to be more financially worse off. Standards of living has dropped dramatically here under the Conservative Party.
America is differant...People are too dumb to spend any time in life on learning about how the banking system really works...Most poor people in the states instead choose to watch tens of thousands of hours of stupid tv shows throughout their lives and kids they cant afford...
@@skycloud4802 no, they've stayed in power for a thousand years. and in their tenure there has been plagues, famines and wars that left their subjects in a pretty rubbish spot.
More evidence of the clown world we live in. Disgusting inequality. And no shame or remorse from them. Charles could have opted for a small, private ceremony if anything, paid for by himself as he can afford it. Down with the Monarchy !
Charles promised he wouldnt make Camilla the Queen. He broke his promise cleverly. He had no intention of ever honouring it. He had always wanted to make Camilla his queen. Why make false promises then? Peoples feelings dont matter for him? Who is he representing? Himself? Or the people?
Charles did not make Camilla Queen. It was Queen Elizabeth who in a change of heart said that Camilla should have the royal of Queen Consort when Charles ascended to the throne.
@@Jen222287 Incorrect. The law of the Uk makes the wife of the ruling king, Queen. There would have had to have been an act of parliament to change that ans there wasn't. What they had originally said is that she wouldnt use her title of Queen Camilla, but she is still the queen and was always going to be, thats the law, The late Queen was just asking for acceptance of Camilla, from the public.
Even leaving aside the thorny question of (arguably) deliberate cruelty to the late Princess Di, to have any value the monarchy must represent tradition - i.e. be at least a little rigid and uptight. It must be impressive with pageantry and colour - i.e. expensive and showy. It must also be noticeably “different”, hinting at inherently superior - i.e. secretive, removed and not in any sense merit-based. All that is hunky dory when the country is swimming in cash, but when money is tight, all the hats diamonds and crowns and tiaras and capes and gowns and sceptres and carriages and footmen and pageboys and horses and flags and standards and lords and ladies … almost make a mockery of the sufferings of ordinary people.
Over here in Ireland we have a president for head of state, as the role is largely ceremonial anyone can really run, so someone like Stephen Fry or Colin Firth could run in the UK if that happend... would be much more popular than any of the royal inbreds I think, and save a lot in taxpayer money
@@TheRajk2222 An honest un corrupted person at the helm would be marvellous but the truth sadly, is that only ruthless lying crooks ever get to the top. It’s a sad fact. Honest people never do well in anything, simply because they don’t play the game. We could end up with some idi amin type character.
Plenty of people (meaning: a few) in France want the monarchy back. They're called royalistes. They don't agree on which family should reign though, between the "légitimistes", "orléanistes" and all the rest. Besides, French is a republic but is obviously not a democracy.
@@honghong8210 Britain became a republic about 400 years ago after a civil war. The King was beheaded. Then after about 20 years the people had enough of being in control and gave the King's son the throne, made him King and returned Britain back to a Constitutional Monarchy. Return can be done. Maybe one day it will happen in China too.
You need to look at the way Switzerland is being run because I never heard of their people protesting against their government. The politicians have normal jobs.
It was on the news few months back that he has given 85% of the Estate’s earnings back to the public. Maybe the government needs to explain where that money went
They don't literally mean no law enforcement whatsoever. They mean to disestablish and reform police forces, in order to avoid the corruption, negligence, and massive overreach we see today.
It's not cops we need, it's a security and justice system that is fit for purpose. Saying that we need cops, makes it sound to many that the only choice we have is to work within the current structure of law enforcement.
Its interesting to hear that the anti monarchy crowd in the UK is fragmented. From the outside looking in you would think it would be a strong youth movement. Perhaps people are just so used to the monarchy it creates divisions? In the US most people think a majority of monarchy supporters are older, traditional and conservative in nature. These Guardian videos are always interesting to get some perspective.
The anti monarchy crowd are united by ignorance and lack of understanding about how the world works! They seem to think that problems in society will be fixed by abolition of the monarchy, even though USA has those same problems (worse) and yet no monarchy! The problems are a result of Capitalism, not a result of monarchy!
It’s not necessarily fragmented in a divided way - it’s just not organised on a large scale. There are a lot of anti monarchists, but they don’t necessarily band together.
@@east_coastt Because the U.K. as a whole doesn’t want a republic. For any negative press or criticism it’s seen as the last vestige of old England still alive and untouched. The more British culture gets attacked from outside forces the more people will band around the monarchy and that’s the end of the debate.
@@manmaje3596 not really. It’s just this person is viewing us from an American perspective with the idea that people are very divided. We’re not like America and so we aren’t super divided. I think you’re wrong and I think the monarchy will have to evolve if it is to survive. The criticism of the UK is coming from within, not ‘being attacked from the outside’ 🤣 and that criticism is very valid. The British public are struggling and don’t sympathise or empathise with the royal family as they once did. The tide is turning. I don’t think we’ll see huge changes in the monarchy in our life time, but it will change. Nothing lasts forever.
I simply don't agree with being 'beneath' someone. I treat everyone I meet like how I'd like to be treated. If I approached Charles with the same attitude I'd be seen in the wrong. I don't care about what benefits they bring if the attitude of servitude exists. I spent some time in SE Asia and it was customary for the cleaners to act in a sick manner of overt respect towards me as they'd been 'trained'. I felt awful that these people were behaving like that to me. How dare another human think themselves so superior that this exists. It is sick.
The role is to leech money, pose constantly for photo ops, and go on jollies to the Commonwealth (inc. many countries that hate them.) Stop pretending they bring in tourists when Versailles income Royal free dwarves anything the Royals bring to the UK. Buckingham would generate far more if it was vacated.
@@OldQueer This is the point though, it is not about being beneath and individual it is about allegiance to the country which is represented by the Crown. It avoids the impossible problem of pledging allegiance to political activists that happen to be in power.
@@BANKO007 The king is also a political activist? He goes to different places on behalf of the country and represents the british people as a figure head. I'd much rather pledge allegience to someone I had the ability to vote for rather than some posh bloke who's never worked a day in his life.
@@justonecornetto80 they do not lad, they're embarrassing. 8 million pound put aside for fucking portraits of "King Charles" for the national public and the cost of the coronation, you know he didn't have to pay any inheritance tax on the billion's of pounds his mother left him too, ask the local joe when his mother dies and leaves 2'000 in the bank the government had their hand out, they're scum. I'm Irish. I'm telling you now a monarchy would not last In my country. You're fools
If the uk took back all the hundreds of billions of pounds given to countries around the world the uk would be the richest country in the world and the countries around the world would still be living in MUD HUTS.
Very naive and idiotic stance. The monarchy brings far more to UK than the 'costs'. We are not just talking about money here....... You are welcome to wallow.
The problem with the parliamentary system is a need for a titular head of state. Monarch or Presidents who do nothing is just a waste of taxes. There should be a one President and then power checks and balances to ensure the president doesn't turn into a dictator.
If the Royal family is so vital as they bring in so much tourism money, they should spend that amd their non inheritance taxed fortune on their party before coming to the public purse
Bro they make the UK economy 1-2 billion a year which goes towards the government and their staff, while they get 100 million a year from our taxes, (if cant do maths dw i got you) 100m - 1000million = -900m. They lose -900million yearly, but no poor old us have to spend £1.29 a year towards their fiances. if we abolish the monarchy thats jobs lost from the king guards, all the way to the tourism industry as our cultural tradition has been destroyed by a bunch of left-wing uneducated plebs
Sadly to get the message across it will take prominent figures to support the campaign to give it exposure, those figures won't come forward ,because they have comfortable lives and disparity doesn't effect them and its in their benifit to stay silent, they don't want to jeopardise their chances of Knighthoods etc.Not surprisingly not one M.P is vocally anti monarchy, so the common people are not represented in their communities.
@@tictoc5443 Fair distrubtion of Charlies stolen wealth... would do better helping the poor than making sure inbred Charlie has someone there to iron his shoelaces
No, even they had issues with current unified system with many still enthusiastic to return into more loose confederation in the past, literally fragment of what the HRE looks like.
It just baffled me in 2023. There are people who believe monarchy is relevant in today's world. Millions of pounds are going to be spent on a small family because of their genes, and the rest should celebrate their life's of this family. While there is an economic crisis, increase homeless and hunger in the country. The poor are taxed to celebrate the live of the king and his family while they struggle to feed themselves and pay their bills. It's just crazy.
It was the same with Queen Victoria ,spending the equivalent of £millions on a love nest on the Isle of Wight , while thousands/millions were on the verge of starvation. Charles Dickens spelt it out for us in his Novels and writings of the day.
@@SorceressWitch all the more reason for the UK to stand out to tourists then and not be France 2.0. If France has everything the UK has like you just said, then why lose the only unique asset that UK has left going for it?
This types of many ideas convenience British minds that there is no uk without monarchy , and nation is first ( obvious for anyone), so they obvious cherish and promote their version of unity that is monarchy..
Charles should abdicate like all other kings and queens who chose love over royal duties and Charles also has gone against everything his mom wanted, she will be spinning in her grave if she knew how Charles is acting
@@tictoc5443 1. Using and abusing his young bride then divorcing her once she'd done her duty. 2. Lack of integrity in his marriage to Diana. 3. Marrying the mistress and making her queen. 4. Investing his wealth in tax-havens despite his face being on British currency. 5. His inability to place toothpaste on his own toothbrush. 6. He's a spoilt 72 yo child. Shall I go on?
@@tictoc5443 scamming his own charities by pocketing donations from Qatari prime minister. sacking all the staff and taking from those that his mom gave too, making Camilla Queen even though she should of been Consort, his racism, they way he treats people and the way he thinks he's entitled to do what he likes, even before being crowned
@@peteradaniel The Queen was recognized throughout the world for her dedication and devotion to duty and to the service of her people above all else ... and you have the unmitigated galll to disrespect her? Shame on you, you piece of "dreck"!
What else would draw tourists by the millions to Great Britain? Oh, I forgot! Your wonderful weather? Your warm sunshine and ocean breezes? Your delicious haute-cuisine and fine wines? Fabulous resorts and sandy beaches? Cheap prices? Stunning scenery? The answer: nothing!!! PS I've been to GB 15 times - because of your history and The Royals ... and you put on a phenomenal show when it comes to The Royals. Tbe whole world is tuned in! No other country in the world comes close to you! Don't "kill the goose that lays the golden egg"!
@@MrWilhelm1950 Lol nobody comes to see royals, the castles and stuff are what they come for. France gets more tourism and they got rid of their royals long ago. They still have the castles that people go to see. Stop bootlicking.
There will always be those who do not like power, this is life, people cannot please every person, but I do not respect such people. You are destroying the power system of a great country, as long as it is ruled by a monarchy, everything will be fine. How do you imagine a republic, or how it’s eternal disputes, and as I say, the monarchy will be eternal and I’m 18 years old, all my peers are for the monarchy and there are repulsed socialists, well, what can I do, this is life. God Save the King.
It is in place more so because of convenience rather than a choice, it just is easier as they are not causing any trouble and pm really runs the country
@@bakedbeans5494 so who do you think pays for all there privileges, There Royal Castle, There servants, The royal Drivers etc.? There plane trips abroad in a private plane? We do the British public.
Yes, that defunding the police thing has gone really well in the states, leading to massive shoplifting so businesses have to relocate. I don't support monarchy, but the left are a billion times worse.
He needs his dressing up day he has waited so long for, with all the sycophants bending over backwards to please him, so no way would he pass it to Willie, who, by the way, is almost as bad as his pa. Time for a republic!
But people are indifferent to William or contrary to Charles or Harry ( I know he not the heir), it all about perception not reality, the queen was not the nicest person but people perception was has a sweet old granny.
It sounds like the British Monarchy needs to either operate more ethically, transparently and democratically, or a change to a Republic might be needed. New Zealand and Australia should become Republics. There are few reasons why they should have allegiance to the King in this day and age. Britain is a bit of a different story...
_"New Zealand and Australia should become Republics"_ They might want to consider getting their own flags first. It's a bit much telling Daddy he's not the boss of you anymore when you're still living in his symbolic basement. At least Canada got _that_ far.
As a New Zealander - no we don't. The majority of New Zealanders wish to remain under the British Monarchy according to a poll done shorty after Queen Elizabeth II's passing in 2022. 50% for the monarchy 27% for republic 23% neutral/undecided First of all, the founding document of this country, The Treaty of Waitangi / Te Tiriti o Waitangi, is a binding legal contract between the Maori people and the Crown which was not upheld in full in the past BUT the fact that the Crown signed it means that they can be held accountable for the times when they did not uphold it such as when land was wrongfully taken from local Iwi (tribes) and the Waitangi Tribunal uses the agreements in the treaty to hear claims and restore stolen lands to Maori owners. If we are no longer a British Colony, that will make the Treaty null and void. The Treaty also promises Britains protection and allyship to New Zealand which most of us are not willing to throw away.
@@loneprimate it’s not hard to do that, just have the referendum first to get the ball rolling and if they vote to leave then make a decision on the flag in the transition process. Somehow I don’t think the voters of Australia and New Zealand are particularly hung up on a piece of cloth. If nothing else they can just replace the union jack with the seal of the commonwealth. As I suspect that institution they will remain in (Allegiance to the monarchy is not a requisite for a commonwealth membership).
@@tinyfreckle 27% plus 23% is equal to 50% so your contention that the majority of New Zealanders wish to remain under the British Monarchy is not correct and I would suggest from my knowledge of New Zealand that it will likely be a Republic before Australia and even Canada. New Zealand has not been a British colony since 1907 and since the latter part of the 20th century it has more so than other past British colonies pursued a very independent path for itself.
@Sean F That respectfully Sean F is a nonsense comment!. A modern sophisticated and democratic Parliamentary Republic with a clear and written constitution will prevent the rise of any potential dictator. The head of state of a Parliamentary Republic is an elected representative and all citizens of a Republic are equal regardless of birth, faith, wealth or race. Inherited titles and birth rights are a legacy of a different era when ordinary people were subservient to often brutal monarchs and lords, it is well past the time when these titles and all the associated nonsense was confined to history.
Yeah we know. That's why we had a revolution against the monarchy centuries ago and now have a constitutional monarchy. People aren't taught history in schools these days.
Human Rights Watch slammed Saturday's arrest by UK police of protesters at the coronation of King Charles III as "incredibly alarming". "This is something you would expect to see in Moscow, not London," the campaign group said, attacking the UK government for its "increasingly averse" stance on public demonstrations.
The Revolution was initially a revolt against Parliament's egregious overreach into American affairs. George III was more popular in Boston than London. It was when the King refused to intercede on behalf of the colonists and sided with Parliament that Republicanism really took hold. So it's more accurate to say we had a war to stop government overreach, which is why the American government has historically had a system of arduous checks and balances.
You need a coalition. You need different parties rotating in power like in Germany and other European democracies. It is possible but got to get rid off the red and blue and realize there is a rainbow out there. You cant represent the true will of the people with only two parties. That's not democracy.
I listened to the words of that girl from Oxford who never really worked in her life, only participated in political rallies, that's not real work. If they want the Republic they should see the conditions of other countries that now live in the Republic, full of corrupt politicians who sell their people's interests to anyone. Also the British Monarchy is different than all the other Monarchies, young people wokes want to overwhelm everything just for political ideas... I sincerely hate politics, it's just a lie and when they come to power they forget about the people... Change one good Monarchy for a Government full of power-hungry politicians I don't know if it would be the best choice for the British people.
What does the girl at Oxford having no work got to do with anything? Doesn't make What she's saying any less valid. She's very young and probably studying there. Your comments don't add to the debate.
@@marcl3763 if the monarchy falls soon it’ll be about time. A sign that we’re moving in the right direction. Prince Andrew is a royal. Do you think he’s a good guy?
Human Rights Watch slammed Saturday's arrest by UK police of protesters at the coronation of King Charles III as "incredibly alarming". "This is something you would expect to see in Moscow, not London," the campaign group said, attacking the UK government for its "increasingly averse" stance on public demonstrations.
They've got some nerve , haven't they , rubbing our noses in it and then expecting us to be pleased for the privilege of paying for it all , by swearing allegiance ? ? Just how warped and Over the Top are they ?
It's not the best question because it's not how our Monarchy works. The Royal Family are the Royal Family. They aren't voted in because they aren't Government and don't need to be. If we had a Monarchy with all the power and no Government...I'd be inclined to agree. But we do have a Government and the decisions that are made that effect our everyday lives come from the Government, not Buckingham Palace. The only time in my lifetime that I can ever think of a situation where the Queen should have stepped in, was when Boris was in power, and she should have sacked him, and I don't think for a second the public would have disagreed in the slightest. And she still didn't get involved. Other than that...their revenue far outweighs their cost.
If the UK became a Republic, the British economy would lose around 2Billion per year in tourism alone. I feel that although most of these people's hearts are in the right place, they are kidding themselves to think that an elected head of state would bring them satisfaction regarding any of the clearly important social & climate issues they are discussing here. Hierarchy & bloodlines being fair or not, is another story & one I would say is definitely not fair, however personally, IMO we need the stability of the Monarchy & I do worry about the alternative. For all those that are about to reply & cry about the cost to we, the tax payers; to keep the Sovereign Grant going, it's approximately £1.30 (right now in 2023) per person, per annum. That's around approx just 11p per month for every tax payer. It's a truly tiny amount compared to what we get in return & I fear this ever growing Republican talk could lead the UK into a truly dark age for our country. The Monarchy is one of the fundamental things that keeps Britain Great & I don't see it going anywhere any time soon, thankfully!
tourists come to britain regrdless and many even say they dont come because of the rf its just a lot of polony . countries that gave up their royals have loads of tourists just the same .
@@sweeta17 The Royals do absolutely bring in 2Billion per annum in tourism (people from other countries that come to the UK specifically to see the Monarchy & their heritage). This is 2Billion per year, every year, to the British economy. Please Google it, Instead of replying with comments that aren't coherent.
@@Melanie_Star How do they bring in 2bn in tourism, Camilla organising tour groups or something 🤣🤣 People will visit the castle and palaces with or without the royals, like in France or India. Not the mention the moral argument of holding up a system that says some people are better than other based on birth. Charles doesnt even pass for a decent person let alone someone chosen by God 🤣🤣
@@callummcintyre713 Of course they do work, most of the adult population do, but the Royal Family have a seemingly infinite pot of taxpayer cash, us normal people don't have that luxury.
The argument I often hear is that the British monarchy brings in money to the economy through tourism. This argument is completely ridiculous, and reminds me of one we tend to have here in the US; Trickle-Down Economics (or Reganomics). The whole concept is that if the government decreases taxes on the rich, they’ll be incentivized to spend more and the economy will grow - Here’s the thing with that, there is no concrete way to make sure that those millionaires and billionaires who have to pay hundreds of thousands less in taxes will spend more and boost the economy, it doesn’t happen. It’s a deeply flawed idea that is used to camouflage politicians just wanting to give their donors tax breaks. When Reagan first tried to use Trickle-Down Economics it failed horribly, the government had to spend the most it ever had to prevent a complete economic failure since the Great Depression. Even with this outcome, politicians still try to use this policy (i.e. the Trump Tax Cuts). As for the Monarchy-Tourism argument, there is no concrete way to say that the individuals themselves are what drives the tourism money; if the British monarchy is abolished Buckingham palace will still be open to visitors, but now you can tour all of it. Feel free to take this as a grain of salt; after all, it is from the mouth of a freedom loving American.
🎶Do you hear the people sing? Singing a song of angry men? It is the music of a people Who will not be slaves again! When the beating of your heart Echoes the beating of the drums There is a life about to start When tomorrow comes!🎶
As an Irish person I agree with the Polish man interviewed, just let them stay, but I'd add, ''tax them!''. We had gerry adams run for president a few years ago. That's the problem with democracy, to paraphrase Socrates. Gerry Adams didn't win, the decent socialist but trinity educated (and very old) michael D higgins won. He has earned his stripes as a socialist but now he is sitting in luxury aras an uchtarain. I'm glad it's him and not the other candidates. The Royal Family exists and abolishing them will not remove poverty, or dependency on benefits. I was on benefits for a while in a country that has no monarchy. We have poverty. We have benefits. Abolishing the monarchy won't solve these problems. I would vote for charles if he was running against the awful boris johnson or nigel farage, or Dominic raab or, or, or, or
The problem is not the person but the system of government. In all government systems there can be good and bad, they all have their dark side. The dark side of Democracy is Demagogy and the dark side of Monarchy is Tyranny. But the problem when there is a bad president, the people have the (limited) possibility of choosing, in the case of the Monarchy, if there is a tyrant as monarch, the people can do absolutely nothing.
Those who love the late Princess Di should protest!! After all , millions of pounds will be spent for the coronation of these two adulterous !!its unfair !!
That young woman is right, there is such a class segregated society in which, the people suffer to enable the RF keep their lifestyles. That is very unjust.
Nonsense! Look at the US. They have no RF, yet still have the same problems, not to mention having to pay big bucks for healthcare, which many Americans cannot afford.
@@davis7099 What do I think? Well I think if you enjoy YOUR King that's up to you. He, or anyone else, would NEVER be my King. But you enjoy him if it makes you happy.
Every country needs a head of state to do all that representational stuff. It’s better to have one that is politically neutral, so everyone has the feeling that they are being represented. (Imagine a Tory/Labour head of state! It would be a disaster!!). The thing with the UK that is the real problem is the mixing of powers, that the armed forces are actually still “The King’s Regiment” and so on. If push came to shove would the army back the government against the king or the other way around? It would almost certainly end in an ugly civil war. The whole thing doesn’t need to be a republic, but it needs a constitution that is above everything else, and an independent judiciary to back that up. All these old traditions and precedent rules are just no way to run a country. Abandon the idea of a privileged class on the basis of birth, and you will be moving in the right direction.
"Imagine a Tory/Labour head of state! It would be a disaster!! - its also a false argument, since there is no protocol for electing a president. The rules have yet to be written, and there is no reason why they shouldn't specify a non-political appointment. But a non-political appointment we are allowed to have a say on, and one who is elected for a set period, not for life.
@@wearsidepsychogeography I live in Germany, which officially has a non-political head of state. And that head of state is elected by large body which is ultimately chosen by politicians. Up to now, that has worked well, but only because of the good will and cooperation between the ruling parties. If this good will broke down, then the non-political nature of the roll could disappear in a flash! As long as you have a system where the political system (I mean politicians) chooses the head of state, you can eventually get in trouble. Strangely, although I am an advocate of democratic processes in every walk of life, I can see the advantages of choosing a head of state on the basis of something random, like birth. Oh, and Kings, like cardinals, can be sent into retirement when they reach a certain age.
Personally, I see fervent Monarchists as people suffering from a form of Stockholm syndrome. However, saying that out loud will not convince monarchists to change their minds! I think most people are lukewarm when it comes to the monarchy and can be reached via reason and moral argument. However, many people see an attack on the monarchy, as an attack on their own identity - what it is to be British - for example. It's a difficult psychological barrier to overcome.
£2. approx. per year, per person - of taxpayers money - not that much. That's also how much tax payers would save if there wasn't a Royal Family.The Royal Family does a good job of diplomacy with other countries, are good ambassadors for the UK, without being political.
so he should and some say . even if he paid it would still be a huge waste of money because it could or rather should be shared amongst real needy people . many also say they have long been fed up with royals because of having to pay them while they are so very rich let alone the cost of this .
I was completely anti monarchy in my early 20s ……… but slowly over the last 20 years I’ve slowly become more neutral on the subject …… why? Because I’ve seen countless uk/us and other countries democratic elected politicians almost constantly misuse their power with constant semi-corruption and lies …… with their “animal farm” Inspired gravy train(s) for themselves and their friends in high business etc etc …… And going back to the monarchy as mad as a concept as it is ……it’s rare for any industry that brings more income into a nation then it costs to not continue regardless if we like it or not …… all I would add is it would at least be a start if all royals were at least taxed like their subjects the same amount off money as a commoner who was on 20k per year more then them… ( I’ll only giving them 20k extra non tax band only for all the hassle they have to endure from the media then a non -royal) and also limit the number off properties and amount off land they own …… should easily give half off it back to the British public …… still keeping the majorly needed bits for their jobs like Buckingham palace in their hands etc etc …
Except it’s a complete myth that they bring in more money than we spend on them. They are exempt from many taxes. We spend money from both the policing and military budget on their protection. We straight up give them tax money. Tax money is used to heat their enormous palaces. You seriously think they make up for that in tourism? Not a chance. All of the supposed tourist attractions that people say wouldn’t make money without them, undoubtedly would make money without them. The Palace of Versailles in France brings in far more money than any royal tourist attraction in the UK, and we all know what France did about their monarchy. To add to this, places like Buckingham Palace are currently closed to the public whereas the Palace of Versailles can be toured. What do you think would make for a better tourist attraction? A palace you can just look at from the outside or one you can tour and explore and witness rooms of historical significance? Your point about corrupt politicians. Sure, politicians can be corrupt. But so are the royals and at least you can get rid of politicians. Many republics have their president be a figurehead too. Take Ireland for example. Their president is a poet who is largely a figurehead but is well loved. Nothing stopping us doing something similar. Difference is, with an elected figurehead, you don’t get the nastiness that comes with a family with centuries upon centuries of inherited wealth with zero inheritance tax.
I like your reasoned position on this. Compromise, even where a bad taste remains, lies at the heart of progress. I'm all for a more holistic view of institutions such as the monarchy and its relationship to the system as a whole. If the prevailing, pragmatic argument for the monarchy is that it ultimately "brings in more than it costs", then OK, let's look at cultivating that transactional concept further with more modern, egalitarian principles. If everything is ultimately transactional, let's push for an even more lucrative bargaining position that serves even more of the "subject" population. At some point in history, an absolute monarchy became a constitutional monarchy. There is no reason to draw an eternal line under what was a move from a wholly undesirable system to a merely more desirable one.
250 million pounds for throwing on a party for someone who has got his first job after living 74 shiftless years on earth sponsored by mummy and daddy.
From my vantage in the USA, I’d say this: try a national election that drags on for months (perpetually in all actuality) in which the same billions are spent on electing a head of state, sowing deep division in the nation at the same time, while at the end of it you’re left having to choose between the lesser of two evils. The disgust will breed so many royalists that you’ll have the Restoration Part 2.
Just because American elections suck doesn't mean we want a hereditary king. Monarchy creates a whole nother set of problems, like having to support an unelected billionaire while struggling people starve.
The UK doesn't lavish the leader of the government in a fancy white house, a "first lady", and a title of president. For that at least, I'm glad the monarchy exists.
You guys just need to get the money out of elections. And don't say "oh, it can't be done"; you guys say that about EVERYTHING because you never look around the world to see how anybody else does anything. It can be done, and it would accomplish two things. First, it would vastly limit the length of your campaigns because the money to sustain them for years on end wouldn't be there. Secondly, no one would be beholden to corporations who paid to elect them, and threaten to elect their opponents if they forget to vote the right way. Campaign contributions should have severe limits, as should the amount you can actually spend. When your Supreme Court equated money with free speech several years ago, I was utterly floored. I remember saying to my friends, "Why don't they just auction the presidency and seats in Congress off to the highest bidder and be done with it?" You also need to make gerrymandering unconstitutional, and given that you were the first country to recognize the practice, I'm stunned you weren't also the first to abolish it.
You still have an election in the UK to select which party runs the country... similar to the USA...the only difference is he is called a Prime minister instead of President..the Royal family don't have much say in how the country is run...they are just there. So it's not much different from the US.
Speaking from the US, our republic isn't really... the best. I mean, just look at our political system. We're pretty much trapped in this two party system, third parties have pretty much no chance. Like, we're basically gonna be forced to choose between Trump or Biden again. I understand where these guys are coming from, but if you ask me Charles is leaps and bounds above most of the politicians here in the US. It seems like you brits are doing far better off rn than we are.
@Never repeats why would the UK want to be like Ireland? If some Brits want to be a republic so bad, they should cross the water to Ireland themselves.
But Charles has no real power. He doesn't run anything in the U.K. The elected parliament and the prime minister run the country. Charles is just a useless figurehead.
The point isn't about how much money is saved. It is actually a step toward true, full equality when people are measured by their merits and virtues, not which family they're born into.
In principle, a monarchy can be quite a good thing, which - in the presence of a good monarch - is a positive advertisement for the country. In this case, I see the problem that King Charles and his former mistress make a rather questionable couple. Many have not forgotten how badly the two of them treated his late wife. Such monarchs are not ones to look up to. I understand that it is his birthright to be the next king. Still, it would not have been a bad idea if he had renounced in favour of his son. Also just because of his age.
"Paying more for comfortable people to be more comfortable." - True and loaded.
The HS2 train is costing between 72 and 98 billion compared to King Charles making 22.7 million. HS2 is the governments project, the same government that has had us under a decade of austerity and strict measures.
I don't envy King Charles III. Giving his whole life and autonomy to service. I would gladly take the freedom I have over his wealth and expectations. But an important cultural and national institution nonetheless. If it wasn't British, people would be begging UNESCO to try and save it. The self loathing of many British is very embarrassing.
@@internethardcase "Service?" You mean stuffing his face while waltzing about in luxury whilst making a speech or two which he himself didn't even write?
Oh such an affluent humanitarian is he and his spoilt family... give me a break.
@@davis7099 🏕🐕🌲🌏 the cost to us is more a pint how many PEOPLE have died for kings????
100 million pound for coronation yet no pay rise for nurses and doctors wow what a blimp we are living in.
Do you really think that money would go to nurses instead? It would merely go into tory pockets instead.
oh no not 100 m estimated which i heard first as well . only 2 days ago it was written in places including in the d . mirror ( are you are sitting down ) is 240 m
Don't even get me started on, Camilla
BuT iT's GoinG TO BrinG in 1 BilliON says every dribbler.
Even if it does bring in 1 billion the public/tax payer aren't seeing any of the benefits.
The monarchy pays more into the system than it costs …
Google it
"You don't vote for Kings!" - Monty Python and the Holy Grail
Or kni-gits for that matter
You don't really vote for politicians either, they are chosen for you but lets consider all truths.
@@debbywillan5165 - I agree 100%.
@@debbywillan5165 chosen by whom? By voters. U re confusing it with your country russia obviously
I think they know that 😊
They have the right to protest because they pay for the royal family
In all honesty, the people who are protesting, are probably on low incomes, and may not be paying tax; so would not necessarily be contributing to the monarchy through income tax.
Most of them don't..
People tend to forget the royal family simply existing earns the government way more money than they spend
the monarchy makes way more than it costs
like 4p a year?
I'm a republican, but at the very least the public shouldn't have to spend a penny on them. If the royal family want pomp and circumstance, they should pay for it themselves.
Yes but if we gave a Head of State it should be a purely honorary position - ie unpaid, The Royals will always be multi billionaires regardless
@@jrgboy Exactly, they can afford their own parades, security, upkeep etc, so there's no need for the public to fund it. If they don't want to pay for it, they can give up their titles.
Rf take the puplics money threw sheer greed
Heavily agreed, not to mention the abundance of corruption deeply rooted within this country, and the London/Major city centric spending. That’s why the Welsh valleys, Costal North and Southwest have fell behind in development. It’s getting worse by the day. As a Young Cornishman, I have 2 choices. One, take a stand, and defy what this system of corruption wishes for me, or two, leave the country.
They will, the coronation is going to bring in £1 billion to the economy...
Fun fact: in Thailand, wearing yellow means you're royalists
And criticising the Royal family means you end up in jail.
And then the wearers can be tossed into deep prison!
@@Raulsta1985 at least they don't claim they are SHE and call everyone a homophobic if they don't agree with their gender Label.
Yellow is just a colour… It’s highly visible. It’s literally nothing more and nothing less…
It's green
You Can Shove Your Coronation - Celtic Fans Message To King Charles
Police have new powers of arrest ....so I agree with the right of protest...but 2 to 3 years in prison is a big risk to take.
Peaceful protest is fine, but obstructing events that other people are there to enjoy is not fine. Peaceful protest is also not really effective, so there is no point. The monarchy has survived through centuries with a proportion of the population opposed to their existence. They know how to survive. That is why they give out knighthoods and other honours. It effectively buys the loyalty of the most influential and powerful people in the country. None of them will want to give up their knighthoods and abolish the monarchy. There will be no benefit (nor any real loss) to anyone from abolition of the monarchy. It isn't worth arguing over!
Whatever your view people have a right to protest , il be watching from home with my vodka.
@@alcoholicjoe6199 Yep, a right to protest without obstructing or ruining the day for other people.
@@stephenthorpe3591 il drink to that.
That would mean you cant protest against a fascist March in your town……….weird, our grandparents fought for that right.
Totally agree. Don’t stop. They need to disband the monarchy. There is power in the people. With people not being able to pay their bills yet they are paying for a stupid coronation.
OK...cut the corontation.....will the 'people' be 'happy' for very long.... They would be back to square one before you knew it and then wonder who to protest about next....
USA has pay the war crimes president many money.
@@jeffreyhearn8930 Nope. It's about the system altogether. We need a fully democratic system. No monarchy. No house of Lords. No unelected people in government
@@jeffreyhearn8930 I guess the point is that its a bit outdated, they're paying tons for a ruler that isn't really a ruler, nor do they do anything important, they just... exist, it makes sense
The cost of the coronation ..... yet food banks, no appropriate pay rise's for public servants etc. For me, the monarchy maintains the class system, which is pernicious.
The problem here is Capitalism, not the monarchy! USA has no monarchy, but has a bigger wealth divide than the UK. Something like 1% of Americans control 40% of the wealth. Food banks in USA are not overflowing with food. There is no monarchy to blame for this, just Capitalism!
@@stephenthorpe3591 Tell them again, people seem to forget this or don't know it at all
@@stephenthorpe3591 The monarchy is a symbol of capatlism and wealth hoarding, the blame goes hand in hand.
@@mindssky1510 The monarchy is a symbol of capitalism to you because you are ignorant.
@@stephenthorpe3591 well said.
People hate on the royals yet George Osbourne and David Cameron walk away Scot free.
Clueless
Maybe they should explain how the Monarchy helped in creating and perpetuating the offshore paradise of millionaires and billionaires in the UK. And how it is basically in cahoots with the London City Financial Empire, with their laundering money and avoiding tax offshore schemes.
Same here in US with politicians & corporations, cronyism.
Why don't you explain it.
Let's not forget at how the queen rubber stamped a government scheme to throw the Chagossians off their own island of Chagos, each person only allowed on carrier bag of items and then all shipped off to a jetty on Mauritius, then sell Chagos off to the Yanks. John Pilger made a documentary about it, entitled The Stealing of a Nation.
It's also weird that [almost] all US presidents have been related to england's royalty since the beginning.
@#3 Most of them say they Irish
I am Czech + Slovak dual citizen, so to me a ceremonial president + parliament-backed executive PM makes the most sense. I live in The Kingdom of Denmark, and I respect their tradition, since the country works very well, there is no nonsense such as House of Lords, and the Royals are scandal-free and unite the country. That cannot be said about the UK however.
I live in the USA, a democratic Republic. No kings, queens or aristocracy. However, the troubles in society at large, hungry children, homelessness, sickness, and so on, do not seem to have been alleviated with no money going to a monarchy. I think that British Republicans think the money saved on doing away with a Constitutional Monarchy would all go to helping the dispossessed. It would not. It would go to support the replacement government. And I heard a young lady assume that GB does t have a Constitution. How can such ignorance exist? How can such people have solid opinions when they know seemingly very little? People can believe what they want, but be careful what you wish for.
Exactly! Your comment makes so much sense. They believe without a monarchy, there’ll be no homeless people, everyone will be a millionaire and sleep in golden beds lmao
I agree…
🇲🇾I live in a Country with 9 Sultans from 9 States which goes on rotations every 5 years to be the Paromunt King for the Whole Country.
The pass few years have seen us having Political uncertainties and after the Election, did not have enough votes to form a Government from either political parties. The Confrence of Rules ( consists of all the 9 Sultans) that help solved the Problem as per the law. .. therefore It does matter in our Country situation.
I cant speak for other Countries with Monarchy but the situation is diffrent for every country..For My Country I disagree.
It’s no different here, and it’s getting worse by the day via the current government me currently have in the UK.
The Monarchy does naff all and don’t have any real POWER. It’s the government of the day who rules the roost and they are slowly chipping away at our rights, and causing people to be more financially worse off.
Standards of living has dropped dramatically here under the Conservative Party.
America is differant...People are too dumb to spend any time in life on learning about how the banking system really works...Most poor people in the states instead choose to watch tens of thousands of hours of stupid tv shows throughout their lives and kids they cant afford...
What!?!?!?!? Quit using phrases from the early 1900’s.
Out of date, out of touch, not fit for purpose. There is nothing more to say about the monarchy
Wrong on all accounts! Your comment shows how little you know about the value, role, and importance of Great Britain's nearly 1000 year old monarchy.
@@MrWilhelm1950
GOD SAVE THE KING !!!!!! HURRAH.
So everyone wants uk to be exactly like Ukrainian, USA, eu European Union 😂😂😂, Venezuela 😂😂??!!🦀🏕️🪵🔥🚴🦌🐐🐃🐪🐏🦓🦥🫏
It's worked for over a thousand years.
@@skycloud4802 no, they've stayed in power for a thousand years. and in their tenure there has been plagues, famines and wars that left their subjects in a pretty rubbish spot.
Let do a vote on abolishing the monarchy
Go ahead. The Monarchy will win.
😂😂Never the monarchy will fall God save the king
@@alansbinnie1446 I don’t care, just want a vote
Wait a few years until the old fuckers are gone
@@alansbinnie1446 Imagine being a simp for Royals
Fancy pissing away all that taxpayer money while pensioners cant afford gas or electricity and Glasgow is the physical description of depression.
More evidence of the clown world we live in. Disgusting inequality. And no shame or remorse from them. Charles could have opted for a small, private ceremony if anything, paid for by himself as he can afford it. Down with the Monarchy !
Yes, give them money to save the planet and give us "green energy", while we all pay 3-5 times as much for energy.
Charles promised he wouldnt make Camilla the Queen. He broke his promise cleverly. He had no
intention of
ever honouring it. He had always wanted to make Camilla his queen. Why make false promises then? Peoples feelings dont matter for him? Who is he representing? Himself? Or the people?
Charles did not make Camilla Queen. It was Queen Elizabeth who in a change of heart said that Camilla should have the royal of Queen Consort when Charles ascended to the throne.
"Iam glad you can see he is just a fake." He is not for the the british pple." But for them selves.✔️
Who cares...
@@Jen222287 Incorrect. The law of the Uk makes the wife of the ruling king, Queen. There would have had to have been an act of parliament to change that ans there wasn't. What they had originally said is that she wouldnt use her title of Queen Camilla, but she is still the queen and was always going to be, thats the law, The late Queen was just asking for acceptance of Camilla, from the public.
Clearly HIMSELF. A man who has his shoelaces ironed and uses velvet toilet paper is NOT about the people
Even leaving aside the thorny question of (arguably) deliberate cruelty to the late Princess Di, to have any value the monarchy must represent tradition - i.e. be at least a little rigid and uptight. It must be impressive with pageantry and colour - i.e. expensive and showy. It must also be noticeably “different”, hinting at inherently superior - i.e. secretive, removed and not in any sense merit-based. All that is hunky dory when the country is swimming in cash, but when money is tight, all the hats diamonds and crowns and tiaras and capes and gowns and sceptres and carriages and footmen and pageboys and horses and flags and standards and lords and ladies … almost make a mockery of the sufferings of ordinary people.
Hi cheetah , how about William for King , noble attributes , a man of the younger generation and a fresh look way forward , the people's choice
Britain is swimming in cash compared to most countries.
@@CanadianMonarchist yeah and most people aren't seeing it
@@jenny2tone242 that’s Rishi’s job. You might not see the cash even if Britain becomes a republic lmao
@@natasha6945 It's still the same worship of luxury for the few and hardship for the many.
Indeed all British taxpayers have the right to question if their taxes are being squandered , especially in a deepening economic crisis !
The monarchy gives more to the British government than they take due to their estates that they let the government use
USA has economic crisis too, many president have more money than Royal family.
@@lucasblack4962 Source?
A large part of me really wants to get rid of the lot of them. On the other hand the worry is whom or what they’ll be replaced with.
Over here in Ireland we have a president for head of state, as the role is largely ceremonial anyone can really run, so someone like Stephen Fry or Colin Firth could run in the UK if that happend... would be much more popular than any of the royal inbreds I think, and save a lot in taxpayer money
@@TheRajk2222 An honest un corrupted person at the helm would be marvellous but the truth sadly, is that only ruthless lying crooks ever get to the top. It’s a sad fact.
Honest people never do well in anything, simply because they don’t play the game.
We could end up with some idi amin type character.
@@annieg1812 What are you trying to say? 🤣🤣🤣
Nothing. They'll just have to integrate into high society. We would be a Republic like France and Germany etc
The Royals don't have any say so over government stuff. They're just ornamental
Here in France it is the exact opposite. I never met someone who would the royalty to come back.
Plenty of people (meaning: a few) in France want the monarchy back. They're called royalistes. They don't agree on which family should reign though, between the "légitimistes", "orléanistes" and all the rest.
Besides, French is a republic but is obviously not a democracy.
already died, How to come back? If make wrong decision never coming back.
@@honghong8210 Britain became a republic about 400 years ago after a civil war. The King was beheaded. Then after about 20 years the people had enough of being in control and gave the King's son the throne, made him King and returned Britain back to a Constitutional Monarchy. Return can be done. Maybe one day it will happen in China too.
You need to look at the way Switzerland is being run because I never heard of their people protesting against their government. The politicians have normal jobs.
France is awesome.
Still hate Thatcher!
damn right, still angered that she made me redundant from my first ever job in 1970.
I've even got the T-shirt.
She's dead
@@74Spirit1 her ideas aren't
@@aethellstan the woman is dead. Sorry you dislike what she left behind.
Should do a "quickie" coronation paid out of his own pocket..That would appease...
Yeah I'm sure the billionaire Charles could afford it
It was on the news few months back that he has given 85% of the Estate’s earnings back to the public. Maybe the government needs to explain where that money went
2 billion
He actually did do the coronation on the cheap. it's a once in a few decade's event. Let the country celebrate ffs
I cant take anyone seriously who thinks having "No cops" is a good idea
posh morons who have nothing better to do
yeah that threw me off a bit first but they said very interesting things later on so yeah
They don't literally mean no law enforcement whatsoever. They mean to disestablish and reform police forces, in order to avoid the corruption, negligence, and massive overreach we see today.
It's not cops we need, it's a security and justice system that is fit for purpose. Saying that we need cops, makes it sound to many that the only choice we have is to work within the current structure of law enforcement.
Better cops.
Its interesting to hear that the anti monarchy crowd in the UK is fragmented. From the outside looking in you would think it would be a strong youth movement. Perhaps people are just so used to the monarchy it creates divisions? In the US most people think a majority of monarchy supporters are older, traditional and conservative in nature. These Guardian videos are always interesting to get some perspective.
The anti monarchy crowd are united by ignorance and lack of understanding about how the world works! They seem to think that problems in society will be fixed by abolition of the monarchy, even though USA has those same problems (worse) and yet no monarchy! The problems are a result of Capitalism, not a result of monarchy!
It’s not necessarily fragmented in a divided way - it’s just not organised on a large scale. There are a lot of anti monarchists, but they don’t necessarily band together.
@@east_coasttcause they're brain dead
@@east_coastt Because the U.K. as a whole doesn’t want a republic. For any negative press or criticism it’s seen as the last vestige of old England still alive and untouched. The more British culture gets attacked from outside forces the more people will band around the monarchy and that’s the end of the debate.
@@manmaje3596 not really. It’s just this person is viewing us from an American perspective with the idea that people are very divided. We’re not like America and so we aren’t super divided. I think you’re wrong and I think the monarchy will have to evolve if it is to survive. The criticism of the UK is coming from within, not ‘being attacked from the outside’ 🤣 and that criticism is very valid. The British public are struggling and don’t sympathise or empathise with the royal family as they once did. The tide is turning. I don’t think we’ll see huge changes in the monarchy in our life time, but it will change. Nothing lasts forever.
The ignorance of the role of the monarchy is stunning. We have failed to teach civics in the UK.
I simply don't agree with being 'beneath' someone. I treat everyone I meet like how I'd like to be treated. If I approached Charles with the same attitude I'd be seen in the wrong. I don't care about what benefits they bring if the attitude of servitude exists.
I spent some time in SE Asia and it was customary for the cleaners to act in a sick manner of overt respect towards me as they'd been 'trained'. I felt awful that these people were behaving like that to me. How dare another human think themselves so superior that this exists. It is sick.
The role is to leech money, pose constantly for photo ops, and go on jollies to the Commonwealth (inc. many countries that hate them.) Stop pretending they bring in tourists when Versailles income Royal free dwarves anything the Royals bring to the UK. Buckingham would generate far more if it was vacated.
@@OldQueer This is the point though, it is not about being beneath and individual it is about allegiance to the country which is represented by the Crown. It avoids the impossible problem of pledging allegiance to political activists that happen to be in power.
@@BANKO007 why would I pledge allegiance to anyone? I understand your point, but I disagree
@@BANKO007 The king is also a political activist? He goes to different places on behalf of the country and represents the british people as a figure head. I'd much rather pledge allegience to someone I had the ability to vote for rather than some posh bloke who's never worked a day in his life.
Not my king or queen. Waste of tax payers money. We have no say in it 😡
Idiots should have no say, use that energy to fight against the one percent elite and corporate capitalism
Its not their idea its the illuminati families, ya need to understand the vatican calls the shots around most of the world on both sides of the wars.
The monarchy generates far more for the British economy than it costs.
@@justonecornetto80 they do not lad, they're embarrassing. 8 million pound put aside for fucking portraits of "King Charles" for the national public and the cost of the coronation, you know he didn't have to pay any inheritance tax on the billion's of pounds his mother left him too, ask the local joe when his mother dies and leaves 2'000 in the bank the government had their hand out, they're scum. I'm Irish. I'm telling you now a monarchy would not last In my country. You're fools
The monarchy is over quite the lowest material desires of man. You may indulge your selfish ends, whereas the Monarchy will exist ever-last.
😂😂😂
So many people around the world need to visit the UK museum, just to look at artifacts actually belong to their country.
If the British museum stored only British things, they would only need a room the size of a small public toilet.
@@supervhschannel4139 It's a relevant debate actually. Neither occurs in a vacuum.
If the uk took back all the hundreds of billions of pounds given to countries around the world the uk would be the richest country in the world and the countries around the world would still be living in MUD HUTS.
British museum is what you mean? 😂
We have the Cullinan diamonds on their crowns and whatever juweliery. Please give it back to South Africa.
I totally agree we don’t need a royal family
Very naive and idiotic stance. The monarchy brings far more to UK than the 'costs'. We are not just talking about money here....... You are welcome to wallow.
I agree middle ages
@@davis7099 it s debatable
I wouldn't trust to look after out heritage.
It's just insane that there are still monarchs in Europe or anywhere else in the world.
The problem with the parliamentary system is a need for a titular head of state. Monarch or Presidents who do nothing is just a waste of taxes. There should be a one President and then power checks and balances to ensure the president doesn't turn into a dictator.
@@VishnuKamath where are you from
Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia, got rid of their monarchies.
if no king , the people just president.
@@ThePierre58 what are you talking about Cambodia still have a monarchy
If the Royal family is so vital as they bring in so much tourism money, they should spend that amd their non inheritance taxed fortune on their party before coming to the public purse
Exactly 👍
Bro they make the UK economy 1-2 billion a year which goes towards the government and their staff, while they get 100 million a year from our taxes, (if cant do maths dw i got you)
100m - 1000million = -900m. They lose -900million yearly, but no poor old us have to spend £1.29 a year towards their fiances.
if we abolish the monarchy thats jobs lost from the king guards, all the way to the tourism industry as our cultural tradition has been destroyed by a bunch of left-wing uneducated plebs
MOANING
@@marcl3763 weak
its the Kings purse, not public purse, you are lucky you are allowed to live on these islands which are the Kings lands, dont bite the hand that feeds
Sadly to get the message across it will take prominent figures to support the campaign to give it exposure, those figures won't come forward ,because they have comfortable lives and disparity doesn't effect them and its in their benifit to stay silent, they don't want to jeopardise their chances of Knighthoods etc.Not surprisingly not one M.P is vocally anti monarchy, so the common people are not represented in their communities.
You miss out the fact that many COMMON people support the monarchy and trust them more than most politicians
@@tictoc5443 Yeah the dense ones 😂😂
@@TheRajk2222 maybe they are wiser than you understand
Robbing Peter to pay Paul is imo not progress
Self help is best jmo
@@tictoc5443 Fair distrubtion of Charlies stolen wealth... would do better helping the poor than making sure inbred Charlie has someone there to iron his shoelaces
@@tictoc5443 the fact that you call them common people (aka commoners) says it all
Switzerland has a better model on how to run a country. The politicians have normal jobs.
No, even they had issues with current unified system with many still enthusiastic to return into more loose confederation in the past, literally fragment of what the HRE looks like.
It just baffled me in 2023. There are people who believe monarchy is relevant in today's world. Millions of pounds are going to be spent on a small family because of their genes, and the rest should celebrate their life's of this family. While there is an economic crisis, increase homeless and hunger in the country.
The poor are taxed to celebrate the live of the king and his family while they struggle to feed themselves and pay their bills. It's just crazy.
Frankly, their genes are pretty mediocre. If anything, Diana and Kate M. injected some healthy genes.
It was the same with Queen Victoria ,spending the equivalent of £millions on a love nest on the Isle of Wight , while thousands/millions were on the verge of starvation. Charles Dickens spelt it out for us in his Novels and writings of the day.
It cost each of us around a £1 per year 🤦♀️ for the monarchy
@@gillian4856 68 million people in the UK so £68 million.
@@Iveraghboy they are rich. I suggest they pay us £1 per year instead. Or better, reduce taxes for the highest paid
God save the people, the country,and the world.
£100,000,000. How many lives could have been saved, how many homeless housed and how many starving people fed?
Dunno, maybe you should suggest they spend the £345,000,000 profits from the day on that if you're so concerned.
Millions being spent on a coronation when so many people are living in poverty...he should use that money to help food banks stock up.
True. You presume he cares.
@@induchopra3014 i know i should know better
@@induchopra3014 He very much does!
I know a lot of people, including myself, visit the UK because of the monarchy.
Why though? You will not see any royals. In France even more people visit the palace of Versailles and no king lives there anymore
@Never repeats but little better. Castles, knights, battles, and kings are what make the UK interesting.
I love watching these imbred tax dodgers hide in their palace too :)
@@skycloud4802 France has all that without the monarchy and people still go visit. Nobody needs to lick the kings boots.
@@SorceressWitch all the more reason for the UK to stand out to tourists then and not be France 2.0. If France has everything the UK has like you just said, then why lose the only unique asset that UK has left going for it?
Ah, the monarchy bringing people together
💀💀💀
loool
You Can Shove Your Coronation - Celtic Fans Message To King Charles
Cant argue with that
This types of many ideas convenience British minds that there is no uk without monarchy , and nation is first ( obvious for anyone), so they obvious cherish and promote their version of unity that is monarchy..
😂
Charles should abdicate like all other kings and queens who chose love over royal duties and Charles also has gone against everything his mom wanted, she will be spinning in her grave if she knew how Charles is acting
What are you talking about? The late queen was disgraceful. She knew exactly what was going on.
Hows he acting that bothers you?
@@tictoc5443
1. Using and abusing his young bride then divorcing her once she'd done her duty.
2. Lack of integrity in his marriage to Diana.
3. Marrying the mistress and making her queen.
4. Investing his wealth in tax-havens despite his face being on British currency.
5. His inability to place toothpaste on his own toothbrush.
6. He's a spoilt 72 yo child.
Shall I go on?
@@tictoc5443 scamming his own charities by pocketing donations from Qatari prime minister. sacking all the staff and taking from those that his mom gave too, making Camilla Queen even though she should of been Consort, his racism, they way he treats people and the way he thinks he's entitled to do what he likes, even before being crowned
@@peteradaniel The Queen was recognized throughout the world for her dedication and devotion to duty and to the service of her people above all else ... and you have the unmitigated galll to disrespect her? Shame on you, you piece of "dreck"!
That medieval dynasty mindset is over a long time ago 😏
While there are still monarchies in North africa and the middle east
@@temptemp6276 And they're doing GREAT, right?
What else would draw tourists by the millions to Great Britain? Oh, I forgot! Your wonderful weather? Your warm sunshine and ocean breezes?
Your delicious haute-cuisine and fine wines? Fabulous resorts and sandy beaches? Cheap prices? Stunning scenery? The answer: nothing!!! PS I've been to GB 15 times - because of your history and The Royals ... and you put on a phenomenal show when it comes to The Royals. Tbe whole world is tuned in! No other country in the world comes close to you!
Don't "kill the goose that lays the golden egg"!
not over, still here
@@MrWilhelm1950 Lol nobody comes to see royals, the castles and stuff are what they come for. France gets more tourism and they got rid of their royals long ago. They still have the castles that people go to see. Stop bootlicking.
Charles is not my king. I need no king
NOT MY DRAGG👑 CHARLENE(AND HUSBAND CAMILLA) OPEN YOUR‼️ 👀‼️ PEOPLE ‼️
There will always be those who do not like power, this is life, people cannot please every person, but I do not respect such people. You are destroying the power system of a great country, as long as it is ruled by a monarchy, everything will be fine. How do you imagine a republic, or how it’s eternal disputes, and as I say, the monarchy will be eternal and I’m 18 years old, all my peers are for the monarchy and there are repulsed socialists, well, what can I do, this is life. God Save the King.
It is in place more so because of convenience rather than a choice, it just is easier as they are not causing any trouble and pm really runs the country
@@sadpumpkinpie1756 What is easy is almost never what is right
Eli D
If you are that way inclined perhaps you would rather he be a queen for you 👸👸👸😇😇😇
Tradition doesn’t mean it’s good or worthwhile. It’s not enough of a reason to keep it going. Not at the cost to the everyday worker.
The monarchy costs only about a quid per year for the average worker
@@Juho221 Even less.
I'd sooner get rid of the BBC.
@@Juho221 You have to be joking?
@@bakedbeans5494 so who do you think pays for all there privileges, There Royal Castle, There servants, The royal Drivers etc.? There plane trips abroad in a private plane? We do the British public.
I see "no cops", i know I'm dealing with idiots
Yes, that defunding the police thing has gone really well in the states, leading to massive shoplifting so businesses have to relocate. I don't support monarchy, but the left are a billion times worse.
Well done British Civilians demolish monarchy make your voice and movements louder to every Civilian can see how useless monarchy body is.
Charles would have gone down in history as a forward thinker by passing the 'crown' to youth- his son William. An opportunity missed...
He needs his dressing up day he has waited so long for, with all the sycophants bending over backwards to please him, so no way would he pass it to Willie, who, by the way, is almost as bad as his pa. Time for a republic!
But people are indifferent to William or contrary to Charles or Harry ( I know he not the heir), it all about perception not reality, the queen was not the nicest person but people perception was has a sweet old granny.
He'll probably die in a month.
Yes I was thinking that 😢would that have been possible? It's hard for me to see Camilla as a Queen 😢
@@maryfenton958 William is not bad like his Father. If he was, I am British and have never heard that.
It sounds like the British Monarchy needs to either operate more ethically, transparently and democratically, or a change to a Republic might be needed.
New Zealand and Australia should become Republics. There are few reasons why they should have allegiance to the King in this day and age. Britain is a bit of a different story...
_"New Zealand and Australia should become Republics"_ They might want to consider getting their own flags first. It's a bit much telling Daddy he's not the boss of you anymore when you're still living in his symbolic basement. At least Canada got _that_ far.
As a New Zealander - no we don't.
The majority of New Zealanders wish to remain under the British Monarchy according to a poll done shorty after Queen Elizabeth II's passing in 2022.
50% for the monarchy
27% for republic
23% neutral/undecided
First of all, the founding document of this country, The Treaty of Waitangi / Te Tiriti o Waitangi, is a binding legal contract between the Maori people and the Crown which was not upheld in full in the past BUT the fact that the Crown signed it means that they can be held accountable for the times when they did not uphold it such as when land was wrongfully taken from local Iwi (tribes) and the Waitangi Tribunal uses the agreements in the treaty to hear claims and restore stolen lands to Maori owners.
If we are no longer a British Colony, that will make the Treaty null and void. The Treaty also promises Britains protection and allyship to New Zealand which most of us are not willing to throw away.
@@loneprimate it’s not hard to do that, just have the referendum first to get the ball rolling and if they vote to leave then make a decision on the flag in the transition process. Somehow I don’t think the voters of Australia and New Zealand are particularly hung up on a piece of cloth. If nothing else they can just replace the union jack with the seal of the commonwealth. As I suspect that institution they will remain in (Allegiance to the monarchy is not a requisite for a commonwealth membership).
@@tinyfreckle 27% plus 23% is equal to 50% so your contention that the majority of New Zealanders wish to remain under the British Monarchy is not correct and I would suggest from my knowledge of New Zealand that it will likely be a Republic before Australia and even Canada. New Zealand has not been a British colony since 1907 and since the latter part of the 20th century it has more so than other past British colonies pursued a very independent path for itself.
@Sean F That respectfully Sean F is a nonsense comment!. A modern sophisticated and democratic Parliamentary Republic with a clear and written constitution will prevent the rise of any potential dictator. The head of state of a Parliamentary Republic is an elected representative and all citizens of a Republic are equal regardless of birth, faith, wealth or race. Inherited titles and birth rights are a legacy of a different era when ordinary people were subservient to often brutal monarchs and lords, it is well past the time when these titles and all the associated nonsense was confined to history.
Actually the monarchy still has a lot power. Jake Tran did a video on it.
I'm sure they do, money talks!!! Backhanders, best mates etc.... shouldn't be allowed
@Never repeats These guys want that abuse of power while their guy is in charge...
just read about people being arrested for twitter posts...
same with the surveilance being rolled across the country. Its not that they opose it its just that they fear its targetting "the right" people
N they will do ANYTHING to hold on to that power.
This is a kick in the teeth to all Brits struggling to feed and heat themselves. He could easily pay for this himself...but better if he fades away.
Parliament is that way ➡️ direct your anger over there. They caused this, not the King.
@@skycloud4802 Jaysus your arguements are weak 😆
@@TheRajk2222 how old are you?
Jezebel do you live in the United KINGDOM? are you even British?
Come on over to The USA. That is why this country was created. No Monarchy.
British struggles to buy bread but worships and pay these useless relics to live in gigantic castles.. priorities people
Long live the monarchy
😂
Britain is famous for its castles and kings, Cry more.
The Police are going to be much more heavy handed this time round after the incident a couple of days ago and Queen Elizabeth's funeral.
Good.
Yes as of yesterday they've got new powers/laws to deal with them if they get out of hand. Peaceful protest is obviously still allowed.
@@stevenalderley9036 ⬅️ spot the bootlicking serf
I’m sure they are ready to go full North Korea
@@annieg1812 Its true, its been confirmed on the news.
I'm not British but I love their monarchy for them.
Its funny how no other channels showed this side of story
Not really, the Guardian has always been anti-monarchy.
PRINCE HARRY TOLD US--- the royals BUY THEIR MEDIA COVERAGE.
Instead of Not My King slogan..
It should instead say: Pay For Your Own Coronation Chuck (children are starving..)
Let them eat coronation chicken
Moronic statement. How much did the Coronation cost versus how much revenue they bring in each year?🤡
We need the billions the coronation brought in
Or maybe We don’t want a king. Or it’s 21 century.
@@cdean2789 this comment is proper hilrious
✊🏽 Power to the people. The people are the power.
Cry
Wtf
And the people say they like the monarchy to stay.
Yeah we know. That's why we had a revolution against the monarchy centuries ago and now have a constitutional monarchy. People aren't taught history in schools these days.
Yes... like North Korea... Power to the People in the 'People's Republic of North Korea'.
the tampon king
Not my Queen!
Well go on tell us who it is DUCKY 😂😂😂😂
Maybe she's glad of that. Lol
@@dakotahstr I don’t give a poop if she’s glad or not, she just couldn’t let Diana be.
Diana is the true queen. Not CowMilla.
Well done to the protesters wish I could be there
Human Rights Watch slammed Saturday's arrest by UK police of protesters at the coronation of King Charles III as "incredibly alarming".
"This is something you would expect to see in Moscow, not London," the campaign group said, attacking the UK government for its "increasingly averse" stance on public demonstrations.
Good I support these protesters. End this exploitative, embarrassing royalty. 🤗
Imagine being monarchist in 2023 we are not in 1500
I am a Monarchist, so what ?
@@alansbinnie1446 So you believe that Charles a higher person than you because he was born into the right family? Smh
I am one. I support the Monarchy because it's history in the making!
@@sarahfaded5108 sounding like a damn fool😂
History is in the galleries and books
Dumass
I am a monarchist. So?
In the US, we had a war to stop the monarchy. Now we have Team Biden or Team Trump. Which is better?
Valid point. But unelected bloke living in a 800 room castle is not on
The Revolution was initially a revolt against Parliament's egregious overreach into American affairs. George III was more popular in Boston than London.
It was when the King refused to intercede on behalf of the colonists and sided with Parliament that Republicanism really took hold.
So it's more accurate to say we had a war to stop government overreach, which is why the American government has historically had a system of arduous checks and balances.
Your war was to avoid paying less tax than Britains and to steal First Nations land
You need a coalition. You need different parties rotating in power like in Germany and other European democracies. It is possible but got to get rid off the red and blue and realize there is a rainbow out there. You cant represent the true will of the people with only two parties. That's not democracy.
It's possible to have a republic that isn't a two-party system. The US isn't exactly a good example of democracy
I listened to the words of that girl from Oxford who never really worked in her life, only participated in political rallies, that's not real work.
If they want the Republic they should see the conditions of other countries that now live in the Republic, full of corrupt politicians who sell their people's interests to anyone.
Also the British Monarchy is different than all the other Monarchies, young people wokes want to overwhelm everything just for political ideas... I sincerely hate politics, it's just a lie and when they come to power they forget about the people... Change one good Monarchy for a Government full of power-hungry politicians I don't know if it would be the best choice for the British people.
What does the girl at Oxford having no work got to do with anything? Doesn't make What she's saying any less valid. She's very young and probably studying there. Your comments don't add to the debate.
Monarchy is a dictatorship. But i guess that you like that.
I am happy there thoughts taken seriously now
Go on lads. They can’t arrest us all!!
very constructive. lol.; and what are you going to do if there wasnt a queen or king. how will it effect your life?
@@marcl3763 if the monarchy falls soon it’ll be about time. A sign that we’re moving in the right direction. Prince Andrew is a royal. Do you think he’s a good guy?
@@davis7099 come to Abergwyngregyn and say that, you royalist arse licker!
Human Rights Watch slammed Saturday's arrest by UK police of protesters at the coronation of King Charles III as "incredibly alarming".
"This is something you would expect to see in Moscow, not London," the campaign group said, attacking the UK government for its "increasingly averse" stance on public demonstrations.
@@cdean2789 are we truly moving forward! These gilded oiks and their privilege are anathem
That adulterous ‘head of the Church of England’ and his trollop should be ousted.
They've got some nerve , haven't they , rubbing our noses in it and then expecting us to be pleased for the privilege of paying for it all , by swearing allegiance ? ? Just how warped and Over the Top are they ?
Would you vote for Charles? is the best question. The most are apathetic and this might make you think
I'd vote for Charles over the Tories. He's probably more in touch with the people than any self serving politician.
It's not the best question because it's not how our Monarchy works. The Royal Family are the Royal Family. They aren't voted in because they aren't Government and don't need to be. If we had a Monarchy with all the power and no Government...I'd be inclined to agree. But we do have a Government and the decisions that are made that effect our everyday lives come from the Government, not Buckingham Palace. The only time in my lifetime that I can ever think of a situation where the Queen should have stepped in, was when Boris was in power, and she should have sacked him, and I don't think for a second the public would have disagreed in the slightest. And she still didn't get involved. Other than that...their revenue far outweighs their cost.
@@stevenalderley9036 then, what is the point of the monarchy?
That will be difficult to comment as he’s not allowed to any political opinions, so therefore don’t know what his policies would be
@@stevenalderley9036 Except they don't cost a dime, the royal family brings in more money to the UK than it costs the British public.
It's a net gain.
If the UK became a Republic, the British economy would lose around 2Billion per year in tourism alone. I feel that although most of these people's hearts are in the right place, they are kidding themselves to think that an elected head of state would bring them satisfaction regarding any of the clearly important social & climate issues they are discussing here.
Hierarchy & bloodlines being fair or not, is another story & one I would say is definitely not fair, however personally, IMO we need the stability of the Monarchy & I do worry about the alternative.
For all those that are about to reply & cry about the cost to we, the tax payers; to keep the Sovereign Grant going, it's approximately £1.30 (right now in 2023) per person, per annum. That's around approx just 11p per month for every tax payer. It's a truly tiny amount compared to what we get in return & I fear this ever growing Republican talk could lead the UK into a truly dark age for our country. The Monarchy is one of the fundamental things that keeps Britain Great & I don't see it going anywhere any time soon, thankfully!
tourists come to britain regrdless and many even say they dont come because of the rf its just a lot of polony . countries that gave up their royals have loads of tourists just the same .
@@sweeta17 The Royals do absolutely bring in 2Billion per annum in tourism (people from other countries that come to the UK specifically to see the Monarchy & their heritage). This is 2Billion per year, every year, to the British economy. Please Google it, Instead of replying with comments that aren't coherent.
Most of the tourism that comes to the United Kingdom is not because of the monarchy but because of other cultural elements that the United Kingdom has
@@Melanie_Star How do they bring in 2bn in tourism, Camilla organising tour groups or something 🤣🤣 People will visit the castle and palaces with or without the royals, like in France or India. Not the mention the moral argument of holding up a system that says some people are better than other based on birth. Charles doesnt even pass for a decent person let alone someone chosen by God 🤣🤣
Cultural elements such as what??
Fish and chips, pies and cloudy skies...
Monarchy is bad enough ; but a ‘king’ that said he wants to be a tampon. ??? Enough already..
Cheating Charlie and his strumpet CowMilla.
They should go and work, No more royal.
Put them in council houses
You just made me realise the people who told the campaigners to “get a job”, maybe they should be saying that to the royal family!
They do work. There was literally a documentary last year on their roles as diplomats.
The ignorance of anti-royalists is astounding.
@@callummcintyre713 Of course they do work, most of the adult population do, but the Royal Family have a seemingly infinite pot of taxpayer cash, us normal people don't have that luxury.
@@callummcintyre713 Countries without royal families don't have diplomats??
Everytime royals visit New Zealand, it costs the kiwi taxpayers 4-5 million dollars, please royals just stay home.
That's not even a dollar each, we can afford it.
What do you expect kids to pay? Wouldn't it be better spent on roads or even subsidized food prices 🤔
@@leemoka4602 kids don't pay taxes
@Tiny Freckle and yet they part of the 4-5 mil population as to what u mention before dah
And actually some kids do esp ones who deliver papers
No king, No queen, No cops... oh boy
How do you equate no monarchy with no cops? Daft af you are.
Good start. Ditch them all and build useful systems.
It’s like getting a view inside their heads.
The argument I often hear is that the British monarchy brings in money to the economy through tourism. This argument is completely ridiculous, and reminds me of one we tend to have here in the US; Trickle-Down Economics (or Reganomics).
The whole concept is that if the government decreases taxes on the rich, they’ll be incentivized to spend more and the economy will grow - Here’s the thing with that, there is no concrete way to make sure that those millionaires and billionaires who have to pay hundreds of thousands less in taxes will spend more and boost the economy, it doesn’t happen. It’s a deeply flawed idea that is used to camouflage politicians just wanting to give their donors tax breaks. When Reagan first tried to use Trickle-Down Economics it failed horribly, the government had to spend the most it ever had to prevent a complete economic failure since the Great Depression. Even with this outcome, politicians still try to use this policy (i.e. the Trump Tax Cuts).
As for the Monarchy-Tourism argument, there is no concrete way to say that the individuals themselves are what drives the tourism money; if the British monarchy is abolished Buckingham palace will still be open to visitors, but now you can tour all of it.
Feel free to take this as a grain of salt; after all, it is from the mouth of a freedom loving American.
and also france gets more tourism and they killed their royals.
100% agree with u. Thank u.
freedom loving American. American don't want freedom, it want control.
And cause a war.
🎶Do you hear the people sing?
Singing a song of angry men?
It is the music of a people
Who will not be slaves again!
When the beating of your heart
Echoes the beating of the drums
There is a life about to start
When tomorrow comes!🎶
YES!!! ❤
That song really was short-lived, as slavery was abolished in Britain in 1833, USA in 1865 via the 13th Amendment.
Stop giving money to king and family. Shame give to poor.
not my king🏴
Well if you are British, he is, get over it.
You are not my protesters
@@alansbinnie1446 Why does he have that right?
So?
@@xxsaruman82xx87 What right ?
As an Irish person I agree with the Polish man interviewed, just let them stay, but I'd add, ''tax them!''. We had gerry adams run for president a few years ago. That's the problem with democracy, to paraphrase Socrates. Gerry Adams didn't win, the decent socialist but trinity educated (and very old) michael D higgins won. He has earned his stripes as a socialist but now he is sitting in luxury aras an uchtarain. I'm glad it's him and not the other candidates. The Royal Family exists and abolishing them will not remove poverty, or dependency on benefits. I was on benefits for a while in a country that has no monarchy. We have poverty. We have benefits. Abolishing the monarchy won't solve these problems. I would vote for charles if he was running against the awful boris johnson or nigel farage, or Dominic raab or, or, or, or
The problem is not the person but the system of government. In all government systems there can be good and bad, they all have their dark side. The dark side of Democracy is Demagogy and the dark side of Monarchy is Tyranny. But the problem when there is a bad president, the people have the (limited) possibility of choosing, in the case of the Monarchy, if there is a tyrant as monarch, the people can do absolutely nothing.
Those who love the late Princess Di should protest!! After all , millions of pounds will be spent for the coronation of these two adulterous !!its unfair !!
Cheater Charlie and his strumpet CowMilla.
That young woman is right, there is such a class segregated society in which, the people suffer to enable the RF keep their lifestyles. That is very unjust.
Nonsense! Look at the US. They have no RF, yet still have the same problems, not to mention having to pay big bucks for healthcare, which many Americans cannot afford.
They Holds 3 Trillions Dollars Properties Business In Britain
Kings? Queens ? Fairy Godmothers ? It's all baffling to me!
And me
Its not difficult of you read history.
@@davis7099 What do I think? Well I think if you enjoy YOUR King that's up to you. He, or anyone else, would NEVER be my King. But you enjoy him if it makes you happy.
@@davis7099 God , Religion , Monarchy, Class system all excellent ways to keep people under the thumb. I don't believe, trust or respect any of them.
Fairy Godmothers? I prefer time travel, immortality, and superpowers better.
Every country needs a head of state to do all that representational stuff. It’s better to have one that is politically neutral, so everyone has the feeling that they are being represented. (Imagine a Tory/Labour head of state! It would be a disaster!!). The thing with the UK that is the real problem is the mixing of powers, that the armed forces are actually still “The King’s Regiment” and so on. If push came to shove would the army back the government against the king or the other way around? It would almost certainly end in an ugly civil war. The whole thing doesn’t need to be a republic, but it needs a constitution that is above everything else, and an independent judiciary to back that up. All these old traditions and precedent rules are just no way to run a country. Abandon the idea of a privileged class on the basis of birth, and you will be moving in the right direction.
Totally agree!
"Imagine a Tory/Labour head of state! It would be a disaster!! - its also a false argument, since there is no protocol for electing a president. The rules have yet to be written, and there is no reason why they shouldn't specify a non-political appointment. But a non-political appointment we are allowed to have a say on, and one who is elected for a set period, not for life.
@@wearsidepsychogeography I live in Germany, which officially has a non-political head of state. And that head of state is elected by large body which is ultimately chosen by politicians. Up to now, that has worked well, but only because of the good will and cooperation between the ruling parties. If this good will broke down, then the non-political nature of the roll could disappear in a flash! As long as you have a system where the political system (I mean politicians) chooses the head of state, you can eventually get in trouble. Strangely, although I am an advocate of democratic processes in every walk of life, I can see the advantages of choosing a head of state on the basis of something random, like birth. Oh, and Kings, like cardinals, can be sent into retirement when they reach a certain age.
Personally, I see fervent Monarchists as people suffering from a form of Stockholm syndrome. However, saying that out loud will not convince monarchists to change their minds! I think most people are lukewarm when it comes to the monarchy and can be reached via reason and moral argument. However, many people see an attack on the monarchy, as an attack on their own identity - what it is to be British - for example. It's a difficult psychological barrier to overcome.
Go an play your piano and don't worry about our glorious monarchy!
it wont be overcome, youll be overcome with a bayonet charge
There's only one true KING YESHUA.
Amen 🙏
Elvis!!
Amen to that.
No to the monarchy. All men are created equal.
£2. approx. per year, per person - of taxpayers money - not that much. That's also how much tax payers would save if there wasn't a Royal Family.The Royal Family does a good job of diplomacy with other countries, are good ambassadors for the UK, without being political.
So she hates the flag, the symbol of the country, and openly admits she hates Britain. Why would anyone listen to her?
Apparently the new "left wing" is "hatred of the country you live in"
If they are so good for de country,why are there so many food banks
That is the government not the monarchy.
@@samdasilva1914 He's to far gone to understand.
This gives me hope and makes UK relatable ❤️ Thanks ❤️
Wouldn't get your hopes up too far.
Hope for what? Relatable how?
Hope for what 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Allowing charles and horse head to be head of state is an embarrassment. If Liz didn’t change the etiquette he wouldn’t have been eligible
Unfit Charlie and Strumpet CowMilla.
Poll carried out in Wales found that 78% of respondents couldn't care less about the "coronation" and want Charlie to pay. Time to go.
so he should and some say . even if he paid it would still be a huge waste of money because it could or rather should be shared amongst real needy people . many also say they have long been fed up with royals because of having to pay them while they are so very rich let alone the cost of this .
Most people in Scotland feel the same way.
I was completely anti monarchy in my early 20s ……… but slowly over the last 20 years I’ve slowly become more neutral on the subject …… why? Because I’ve seen countless
uk/us and other countries democratic elected politicians almost constantly misuse their power with constant semi-corruption and lies …… with their “animal farm” Inspired gravy train(s) for themselves and their friends in high business etc etc ……
And going back to the monarchy as mad as a concept as it is ……it’s rare for any industry that brings more income into a nation then it costs to not continue regardless if we like it or not …… all I would add is it would at least be a start if all royals were at least taxed like their subjects the same amount off money as a commoner who was on 20k per year more then them…
( I’ll only giving them 20k extra non tax band only for all the hassle they have to endure from the media then a non -royal) and also limit the number off properties and amount off land they own …… should easily give half off it back to the British public …… still keeping the majorly needed bits for their jobs like Buckingham palace in their hands etc etc …
Except it’s a complete myth that they bring in more money than we spend on them. They are exempt from many taxes. We spend money from both the policing and military budget on their protection. We straight up give them tax money. Tax money is used to heat their enormous palaces. You seriously think they make up for that in tourism? Not a chance.
All of the supposed tourist attractions that people say wouldn’t make money without them, undoubtedly would make money without them. The Palace of Versailles in France brings in far more money than any royal tourist attraction in the UK, and we all know what France did about their monarchy. To add to this, places like Buckingham Palace are currently closed to the public whereas the Palace of Versailles can be toured. What do you think would make for a better tourist attraction? A palace you can just look at from the outside or one you can tour and explore and witness rooms of historical significance?
Your point about corrupt politicians. Sure, politicians can be corrupt. But so are the royals and at least you can get rid of politicians. Many republics have their president be a figurehead too. Take Ireland for example. Their president is a poet who is largely a figurehead but is well loved. Nothing stopping us doing something similar. Difference is, with an elected figurehead, you don’t get the nastiness that comes with a family with centuries upon centuries of inherited wealth with zero inheritance tax.
I like your reasoned position on this. Compromise, even where a bad taste remains, lies at the heart of progress. I'm all for a more holistic view of institutions such as the monarchy and its relationship to the system as a whole. If the prevailing, pragmatic argument for the monarchy is that it ultimately "brings in more than it costs", then OK, let's look at cultivating that transactional concept further with more modern, egalitarian principles. If everything is ultimately transactional, let's push for an even more lucrative bargaining position that serves even more of the "subject" population. At some point in history, an absolute monarchy became a constitutional monarchy. There is no reason to draw an eternal line under what was a move from a wholly undesirable system to a merely more desirable one.
Well said
If you are neutral in the times of oppression you have chosen the side of the oppressor
I believe a Monarchy in the style of the Holy Roman Empire would be better for stability, liberty and prosperity.
A gold chariot during a times of financial hardship.
250 million pounds for throwing on a party for someone who has got his first job after living 74 shiftless years on earth sponsored by mummy and daddy.
The Chariot i hundreds of years old its money that spent long ago.
@@MrSalbego No it was made in 2014 and spent even more money on it with AC and electric windows
@@rodden1953 No your wrong. That was a gift from Australia. The gold state coach in 330 years old.
@@manmaje3596 The revamp cost enough .they are thieves and gangsters
Ironically, I would actually vote for Charles as he’s a genuine, caring guy
Same
He cares about leaky pens....arrogant bully
At least force them to sell their land as a source of revenue (they own over £1,200,000,000 worth of land, and that’s not including their estates)
From my vantage in the USA, I’d say this: try a national election that drags on for months (perpetually in all actuality) in which the same billions are spent on electing a head of state, sowing deep division in the nation at the same time, while at the end of it you’re left having to choose between the lesser of two evils. The disgust will breed so many royalists that you’ll have the Restoration Part 2.
Just because American elections suck doesn't mean we want a hereditary king. Monarchy creates a whole nother set of problems, like having to support an unelected billionaire while struggling people starve.
The UK doesn't lavish the leader of the government in a fancy white house, a "first lady", and a title of president. For that at least, I'm glad the monarchy exists.
There are more options than just these 2.
You guys just need to get the money out of elections. And don't say "oh, it can't be done"; you guys say that about EVERYTHING because you never look around the world to see how anybody else does anything. It can be done, and it would accomplish two things. First, it would vastly limit the length of your campaigns because the money to sustain them for years on end wouldn't be there. Secondly, no one would be beholden to corporations who paid to elect them, and threaten to elect their opponents if they forget to vote the right way. Campaign contributions should have severe limits, as should the amount you can actually spend. When your Supreme Court equated money with free speech several years ago, I was utterly floored. I remember saying to my friends, "Why don't they just auction the presidency and seats in Congress off to the highest bidder and be done with it?" You also need to make gerrymandering unconstitutional, and given that you were the first country to recognize the practice, I'm stunned you weren't also the first to abolish it.
You still have an election in the UK to select which party runs the country... similar to the USA...the only difference is he is called a Prime minister instead of President..the Royal family don't have much say in how the country is run...they are just there. So it's not much different from the US.
Speaking from the US, our republic isn't really... the best. I mean, just look at our political system. We're pretty much trapped in this two party system, third parties have pretty much no chance. Like, we're basically gonna be forced to choose between Trump or Biden again. I understand where these guys are coming from, but if you ask me Charles is leaps and bounds above most of the politicians here in the US. It seems like you brits are doing far better off rn than we are.
@Never repeats why would the UK want to be like Ireland? If some Brits want to be a republic so bad, they should cross the water to Ireland themselves.
But Charles has no real power. He doesn't run anything in the U.K. The elected parliament and the prime minister run the country. Charles is just a useless figurehead.
The point isn't about how much money is saved. It is actually a step toward true, full equality when people are measured by their merits and virtues, not which family they're born into.
In principle, a monarchy can be quite a good thing, which - in the presence of a good monarch - is a positive advertisement for the country.
In this case, I see the problem that King Charles and his former mistress make a rather questionable couple. Many have not forgotten how badly the two of them treated his late wife. Such monarchs are not ones to look up to.
I understand that it is his birthright to be the next king. Still, it would not have been a bad idea if he had renounced in favour of his son. Also just because of his age.
They didn't treat his ex-wife badly, they killed her.
Hear! Hear!
The ex wife want a angel the media made her one get the media on your side and u have won
I find nothing royal or acceptable of this event
Protesters 'theres nothing illegal about protesting peacefully, why are the police having low tolerance'
Also protesters: *throws things at the king*