I had never actually noticed until this video that the original rudder on the Fletchers was expanded. I had originally thought that the whole rudder was replaced. Makes the potential plans to downsize to its WW2 configuration a lot clearer for me
The rivers did a great job under those conditions . Amazing you have the opportunity to restore it to WW2 condition and hopefully help with a problem .
Love watching the Kidd videos, just as much as those from the Jersey, and now avidly wanting to see how the Kidd goes with her drydocking period, all these ships of yesteryear deserve the absolute best of care they can receive, to preserve them for many many more years to come. Looking forward to seeing more from the drydock, and thank you!!! Cheers from Sydney Aus!!!! 🍻🍻🍻🍻
@keithhoff6715 : Bosun's mate: short for boatswain's mate. He would have taken care of the ship's boats and life rafts, maintains the ship's lines (ropes, railings), and conducted corrosion prevention on the decks. 🙂
Black was right next to Kidd when she was hit by the Kamikaze, indeed iirc the Kamikaze was originally going to hit Black when the pilot overshot her for a better hit on Kidd. Black is in the background of the surviving still frame of the Kamikaze right before it hit.
Interesting video about the rudder and its design. Fun to have Ryan collaborating on your channel. Will you make an update video about hull plating replacing/repair?
I am surprised that the cut-off was done freehand without the use of a guide batten. The springing of a simple wood batten clamped in place would have afforded a rest for the torch and completely negated the visibility problems.
It's ridiculous that you have to explain to armchair admirals who've never stepped foot on a ship and don't know what happened, that the bottom of the rudder didn't rot off. Great work!
Now that mega cruise ships did away with rudders due Azapoids and to a smaller help bow thrusters wonder if large Naval ships even air craft carriers will get them.
This is great info as usual, but I just have to say that the internet keyboard warriors get on my nerves sometimes. Just take 30 seconds to find out the truth about the rudder before coming up with your own story.
@shannonperry2418 : Tim's asking "What's wrong with missing a few fingers? Builds character and provides talking points and teachable safety moments." 😄😆😂🤣
As a former staff member there I can tell you for certain. The museum has no control of the river bed. That is the US core of engineers and if you mess with it you will go to prison. The process to get permission to do anything there let alone dreadge is minimum of 10 months. On top of that the core is the only one who dredges the river . as far as I know no one else is allowed cost is another factor also.
@Orxenhorf : The river was cresting in 3-4 days with the likelihood of no other window of opportunity for another year to get out of the cradle. The predicted high had already been scaled back to the barest minimum required to get us out. Dredging costs tens of thousands of dollars and requires permits from the Army Corps of Engineers that close to the levee (which takes months to acquire approval at times). It was now or wait another year with increased probability of more hull issues. Fixing the rudder later in the yard was an easy fix compared to more leaks one or more years down the road. It doesn't get better sitting still; only worse.
Did you ever consider using an excavator to dig out a channel when the river was really low and the Kidd was high-and-dry? Or would that be a bad idea?
@JackRussell021 : Let's just say that Tim calls that "How to sink a boom lift (insert other heavy equipment) in 4.5 seconds." 🙂 The silt rarely solidifies enough to handle that sort of weight. You'd need matting ($$$) and you'd also need to build a ramp to get down the 35-degree erosion-control rock wall built by the Corps of Engineers (more $$$). Beyond that, any excavation that close to the levee must be cleared by the Corps.
that's me in the interview. definitely an honor to burn on a piece of history
Awesome working with y'all!
That cut off section of the rudder is a fascinating piece of history in its own right.
I had never actually noticed until this video that the original rudder on the Fletchers was expanded. I had originally thought that the whole rudder was replaced. Makes the potential plans to downsize to its WW2 configuration a lot clearer for me
Always good to see collaboration among museum ships to preserve important parts of history
@@jess2690: We are #OneFleet!
The rivers did a great job under those conditions . Amazing you have the opportunity to restore it to WW2 condition and hopefully help with a problem .
Love watching the Kidd videos, just as much as those from the Jersey, and now avidly wanting to see how the Kidd goes with her drydocking period, all these ships of yesteryear deserve the absolute best of care they can receive, to preserve them for many many more years to come. Looking forward to seeing more from the drydock, and thank you!!!
Cheers from Sydney Aus!!!! 🍻🍻🍻🍻
@@tippo5341: Thank YOU! Check out our Reefer video. We need some help from our friends Down Under. 😉
Excellent video - thank you.
@@stevekirk8546: Thank YOU!
Great channel. Starting to binge watch this one too. "Gotta see them rudders".
That is really cool. My uncle served on the USS Black DD-666
@@keithhoff6715: Division mate and squadron mate! 🙂❤️
@usskidd661 I remember him saying he was a Boston's mate electrician. Other than that, I do not know.
@keithhoff6715 : Bosun's mate: short for boatswain's mate. He would have taken care of the ship's boats and life rafts, maintains the ship's lines (ropes, railings), and conducted corrosion prevention on the decks. 🙂
Black was right next to Kidd when she was hit by the Kamikaze, indeed iirc the Kamikaze was originally going to hit Black when the pilot overshot her for a better hit on Kidd. Black is in the background of the surviving still frame of the Kamikaze right before it hit.
@@sirboomsalot4902: Correct on all counts. Well done!
Great Job Thanks 👍👍🇺🇸🇺🇸
@@jeffsr8300: Thank YOU!
why were yall fuzzing out half the screen at 15:30 in the video?
Great info on the rudder, never knew that.
Interesting video about the rudder and its design. Fun to have Ryan collaborating on your channel. Will you make an update video about hull plating replacing/repair?
@@adrianames8590: Absolutely. We update as new developments occur. 🙂
I am surprised that the cut-off was done freehand without the use of a guide batten. The springing of a simple wood batten clamped in place would have afforded a rest for the torch and completely negated the visibility problems.
@@charlescanton4740: That's a diver question. What's done is done. No use second-guessing now. They're the professionals.
Okay okay we believe you!
@@PresidentCamacho24: 😄👍
it's not the size that matters but the motion of the ocean! :P
Mighty Mississippi current is horrible. I can’t imagine how hard that was
It's ridiculous that you have to explain to armchair admirals who've never stepped foot on a ship and don't know what happened, that the bottom of the rudder didn't rot off. Great work!
@@duanem.1567: Agreed! 💯
Sounds like a certain administration selecting candidates
If Ryan needs to see a ship out of the water he could just head up the Turnpike and go see USS Ling, although she is not in good shape.
@@kolt4d559: 😥😢
Should keep that rudder piece with the ship
What's NYKF on the flag hoist?
@@danquigg8311: KIDD's old radio callsign.
Now that mega cruise ships did away with rudders due Azapoids and to a smaller help bow thrusters wonder if large Naval ships even air craft carriers will get them.
@@garbo8962: Good question.
Those pictures beg the question, couldn't the rudder have been cropped during a period when she was dried out, IE above the mud?
@emmabird9745 : Of course, ... but how you to know if the river will rise high enough where you don't have to crop it? Why crop if you don't have to?
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B O N D O !
@@davidvavra9113: 😄😆😂🤣 ... ... No! 😃
This is great info as usual, but I just have to say that the internet keyboard warriors get on my nerves sometimes. Just take 30 seconds to find out the truth about the rudder before coming up with your own story.
@@Odin029: Agreed! 💯
Ryan, i forbid you using a table saw, I do not need to see videos were you are missing fingers. this is a professorial wood worker you just scared!
@shannonperry2418 : Tim's asking "What's wrong with missing a few fingers? Builds character and provides talking points and teachable safety moments." 😄😆😂🤣
@ , nope he would have to stop being a curator, and start on his new career as a shop teacher! They might let him back on a wooden boat!
lol the rudder did not rust off- this is a case of illegal rudder castration on a senior citizen- somethe gov does everyday!
@@samstewart4807: 😬😬😬😯😲
Why the heck didn't you dig or dredge it out though. That was a butchering.
As a former staff member there I can tell you for certain. The museum has no control of the river bed. That is the US core of engineers and if you mess with it you will go to prison. The process to get permission to do anything there let alone dreadge is minimum of 10 months. On top of that the core is the only one who dredges the river . as far as I know no one else is allowed cost is another factor also.
@Orxenhorf : The river was cresting in 3-4 days with the likelihood of no other window of opportunity for another year to get out of the cradle. The predicted high had already been scaled back to the barest minimum required to get us out. Dredging costs tens of thousands of dollars and requires permits from the Army Corps of Engineers that close to the levee (which takes months to acquire approval at times). It was now or wait another year with increased probability of more hull issues. Fixing the rudder later in the yard was an easy fix compared to more leaks one or more years down the road. It doesn't get better sitting still; only worse.
Much of it getting cut off one way or the other.
Did you ever consider using an excavator to dig out a channel when the river was really low and the Kidd was high-and-dry? Or would that be a bad idea?
@JackRussell021 : Let's just say that Tim calls that "How to sink a boom lift (insert other heavy equipment) in 4.5 seconds." 🙂 The silt rarely solidifies enough to handle that sort of weight. You'd need matting ($$$) and you'd also need to build a ramp to get down the 35-degree erosion-control rock wall built by the Corps of Engineers (more $$$). Beyond that, any excavation that close to the levee must be cleared by the Corps.
Is Ryan drunk?
@@NV555_82nd: No, why? 🤔