All remaining battleships must be preserved for future generations to see and explore. They are all magnificent ships that deserve to be preserved forever. The USS Texas has the distinction of being the only surviving WWI battleship in the world, the rest were either sunk or scrapped. America owes a debt of gratitude to the USS Texas and all who served on her, and to preserve her means to preserve the memory of those very brave men. As americans, we can't allow this magnificent ship to be lost, it is our solom duty to save her. I fear that if we lose the USS Texas, we will lose a big part of America's soul. And those brave men who served aboard her will also be lost to history. We can't let that happen, not now or ever. She may be old but she's worth saving. I am donating to her preservation and I definitely encourage anyone who's able to do so to also donate. We owe it to our country and those men who have served on her at least that much. Anything will help. God bless America
You got a huge thumbs up from me. Our HMS Ark Royal was scrapped in the 1970's despite a huge campaign to save her and make her into a museum ship much like your USS Intrepid. I hope this old battlewagon is saved. The British equivalent was HMS Warspite. Fought with distinction in both wars but after WW2 was being towed away for scrap. She ran aground and had to be scrapped where she was. Such a shame.
I can only imagine the damage she's received from being in the water so long. Here in Chicago, we have the German submarine U-505. She stood outside, dry with exception of the elements and took a beating for fifty years. In 2004 she was moved to a new underground (dry) home and restored. The Texas needs to be dry to survive.
@@2468HOTROD There you go: weaponize the situation! I'm a Democrat, and have supported the preservation of this ship all my life. I had a great-uncle and three cousins on the battlefield at San Jacinto. My disabled veteran grandfather used to patiently wait on the deck, and wait for me to climb all over this ship as a child. Democrats originally preserved this ship. As a 7th gen Texan I take offense at your willfully ignorant and divisive comment... 😼
THE finest of her time. She was the first warship in the water to carry 14 inch guns, and later the first warship to carry an aircraft for scouting and target spotting.
I absolutely couldnt agree more, it was not just stupid, it was absolutely evil, to take her, the US Enterprise CV-6, away from us, the American people, and for all future generations, she is, and was a National and Historic treasure!!! And SHE will always be a true BAD-ASS, and when America was on its ass after pearl harborl, she never let us down, and she was actively hunting and fighting the Japanese, sometimes all alone, and she never let up through the entire war, while America licked its wounds and regrouped, at times, she was the only thing between the japanese and America, and she kicked Ass EVERYWHERE she went!!! And SHE was the most DECORATED SHIP of all time, and they destroyed her in 1958!!! I'm not just upset, but pissed off, the navy had absolutely every reason to save it, and absolutely no reason to destroy it, and she had even just been completely overhauled and repainted, after the war, she was kept turn key!!! Its like, the Navy cant comprehend what they have, or how truly precious it is, until its gone!!! And now they want to do the same to USS ENTERPRISE CVN-65, it's like watching an American nightmare all over again!!!She is America's very first Nuclear aircraft carrier, and she too was just overhauled and was absolutely immaculate and polished, when the navy pulled HER from active service to bring in a brand new carrier, she is still the fastest American carrier to this day!!! and she been in the thick of it since she was built, and she is a movie star, she was In many films since she was launched, including Top Gun!!!, she still exist, please call your representatives, and tell them to make her a National Historic landmark, she even has pieces of the originas Enterprise CV-6, in her for good luck!!! We paid for her, she belongs to us, the American people, not the clueless beuracrates who dont care about, or appreciate our history!!! God bless you all!!!
Saratoga should have been saved too. The only reason Texas, North Carolina, Alabama, and Massachusetts (the non-Iowa class battleship museums) were saved was because the people and governments of all 4 states led and financed a campaign to save the battleships named after their states. Sadly not a single one of the 10 out of 12 surviving standard type battleships (Nevada in 1916 to West Virginia in 1923. AZ and OK were permanently sunk at Pearl Harbor) were saved. If Texas were not saved everybody born after the WWII generation would falsely believe that the Pearl Harbor battleships looked like NC or NJ when they all looked just like Texas, a super dreadnought.
Ryan over at Battleship New Jersey had some interesting comments regarding keeping ships out of the water. (Made during his coffer-dam episode at the USS North Carolina.) Basically, it boils down to 'they're not buildings'. They are not designed for all their weight to be supported vertically on the keel and they will eventually 'bulge out' as the weight of the superstructure and upper fittings press down on the hull. They actually need the hydrostatic pressure of the water pressing in on the hull from outside to maintain their structure. By all means create the 'dry berth' as a means of maintaining the ship, but keep it flooded, except when you need to do work on the hull. Otherwise, your ship will eventually collapse in on itself.
With the massive leaks that opened up after Hurricane Harvey, Wargaming has an event going on where you buy certain items related to the USS Texas in World of Warships, all the proceeds go to the project to save the Texas. Hopefully this will finally raise the money needed to save her.
@@GeneralKenobiSIYE Absolutely. Hurricane Harvey did not hit the Houston area as a hurricane. It made landfall near Corpus Christi which is about 200 miles away. As it moved inland it rapidly downgraded to a tropical storm before turning east and dumping an unprecedented amount of rain on the Houston area. Since Houston is very flat and basically a swamp, it caused devastating flooding that lasted for days. Typically the dangers of a hurricane are extremely high winds and storm surge. Houston did not experience any of these during Harvey, and neither did the Battleship Texas. Her mooring system is designed to allow her to simply float up and down with the tides. She's experienced hurricanes before, along with countless heavy downpours. Harvey was no problem at all for her. There were also no severe listing events or new leaks in the immediate aftermath of Harvey. Almost all the listing events she's had have been caused by the deterioration of her torpedo blisters, which are very thin and almost 100 years old. None of these have produced a list greater than around 8° or so.
Been on her twice and loved every minute. You get to feel what she was like manned and in action. The history around this vessel and those who sailed on her should always be kept alive.
Nope that is about the worst thing you can do! Concrete is porous and it will rot the ship from the outside in. That is why it is not done anymore for this very reason.
I've read that the concrete was actually poured inside the Mikasa as well. Part of the agreement that allowed Japan to preserve her as a museum ship required that her guns and engineering spaces be 'demilitarized'. The concrete was how they did the engine rooms, according what I read.
My Dad quit school in 1937 and joined the Navy. After recruit training he was assigned to the USS Texas for additional training. Always said that was most fun he had before the war started. Getting her in a dry dock is good but Texas weather, with the salt air and humidity, is going to eventually win this fight. Don't know what their budget is but it's just getting too costly to keep them. I think S. Dakota had the best idea to keep the memory of their namesake, BB-57, alive is the way to go.
Okay, so the TPWD started on the USS Texas drydock project in 2010 .... That was a decade ago! Where does the battleship stand now? Still in water? Was the project abandoned?
It was abandoned. It was discovered that her interior structure had deteriorated to the point that she could no longer support her own weight in a dry berth. It was also determined that construction of the berth itself was far more expensive than originally estimated. The problems with the structure have largely been fixed, and the new plan is to tow her to a dry dock so that most of the hull can be replaced, then she'll return to the water in a new home.
USS Texas is the only super-dreadnaught battleship still in existence. Ultimately the same dry-berthing scheme will have to be used for Massachusetts, Alabama, and North Carolina; it's just a matter of time. Rust never sleeps! The old saying in the world's navies since the ironclad days was: "If it moves, salute it. If it doesn't move, PAINT it!" Well, these museum ships don't have a crew of thousands to put on maintenance duty.
Putting the Battleship U.S.S. Texas in "Dry-Berth" is the only logical way of saving this historical ship. She has a lot of history and it shouldn't be lost to the Elements of Nature. It would also afford the opportunity to do some much needed repairs to bring her back to her former glory.
The Uk’s military budget is on the ropes yet we still can afford to keep every historic ship (that hasn’t been recycled) in dry dock- even HMS victory from the 1700’s seems to be in better condition than this
When we visited Lord Nelson's flagship 2 years ago they were studying ways to replace the cribbing supporting the ship to even oug stress on the hull- she is well cared for and will last for hundreds of years more. That having been said, she exists in a well funded museum setting, much like our USS Constitution. If they could dry berth the USS Texas would not detract from her history.
Rather than keel blocks I wonder if they could make her a concrete cradle which would support her at all points the same as if she was in water. Between the concrete and hull perhaps there could be some sort of water/air-tight padding that would keep her steel dry and prevent further rusting.
Battleship is build to with stand three pressure points 1. Gravity from the top. 2. Pressure from the water pressure on both sides. Over time if not in the water the ship will pancake and flatten.
exactly. it is engineered to be IN the water and there is expected maintenance and risk. removing it from that designed environment introduces other risks that were not originally engineered into the design.
I live like 10 minutes from the monument or battleship texas and since here in houston we get strong storms and hurricanes so wouldnt it topple over with like 80 mph winds or more
They already found the money once, but the "board of trustees" misspent it on useless things and squandered the opportunity. That board is gone, but now we're left with the consequences of their dereliction of duty.
Shore bombardment wasn't a perfect tactic, but undoubtedly there were men who were able to live out a normal lifespan because German and Japanese positions were taken out by Texas's main battery.
So im guessing nothing happened with thus project? As of August 2019 it is pictured in the water still, and now with the Rona it seems like most is as a hold.
Go to the USS Texas website. The ship is being readied for tow to an undisclosed shipyard for full hull replacement below the waterline (shell plating). It needs it. I think most of the inner hull structure supporting the engines and rest of the ship has been repaired. They state that the ship will not return to the same berth. I guess they are looking for a more hospitable place that will draw more people so the dry berthing project has been scrapped as far as I know. I would like the ship to be dry berthed for preservation sake. It would have been nice to have that done decades ago then the they wouldn't have to spend so much money repairing the ship and would have keep the originality intact.
@@jth877 Years of planning, years worth of restoring and repairing every time it starts to list. Somebody's making a lot of money out of not giving it a permanent home.
@@bigwitt187 Well, the dry docking will happen. They are already starting to fill the inside of the torpedo bulges with expanding foam to create enough buoyancy for towing. The foam will be removed in dry dock. They have enough money this time to move it. The question is where? Dry berthing would be so nice... I wish all museum ships were able to be dry berthed. So easy to maintain, very little deterioration and you'd be able to walk underneath the ship and get a real idea of how big these thing are.
Seems easier to dig an absolute minimum size slip / inlet. install the ship, then wall that off. The ship would still be visible with a wall only a fraction of the size presented. If the slip was long enough, the entire opening could be filled with the earth from the dig. So no wall would be needed at all.
Interesting idea for display to enable visitors to see the enormity of a battleship, especially the one & only WWI left. Any ship/boat owner knows water ironically destroys water craft & they rust & corrode constantly. Maintenance must be ongoing to be effective. Non-ship example: the GoldenGate Bridge, constant maintenance crew on duty.
That pit might be appealing if there wasn't a ship in the middle of it, and being completely out of the water would have taken away from the battleship experience. The best part of the video was where they took it out and moored it parallel to the channel. If they had left it in that position, it would have been nice. I haven't been there, but I understand that the current location isn't ideal and the new location will probably be better.
The Texas was the first Battleship museum, and one of the first preserved steel ships. She has been inactive since 1948. Alot of trial and error, and alot of learing happened along the way, which allowed for better upkeep of the Alabama, The Iowas, The Midway, and every other Warship museum that came after.
Das ist die beste Idee. Das Schiff muss raus aus dem Wasser. Und die dadurch enstehende Landschaft ist ebenfalls ein reizvolles Ziel für Besucher. Allerdings wird das ein Vermögen kosten.
While this set up looks very cool I’m not sure how good it would be for the ship, as is now being seen battleships when kept on dry land have the tendency to inflate out on the sides as there is not enough pressure on the sides of the ship as there should be when the ship is in water. I know it would be hard to keep it in water but it should be the better option for the ship long term as long as it goes into dry dock to get fixed. I hope whoever is in charge of this project will consider the long term impact that this plan may have on the ship.
So people won't be able to marvel at her propellers? Are they stored somewhere and can be reattached to her shafts? If not, how about building authentic looking replica propellers to attach once she's dry berthed?
This is be what will be done . I've actually worked on the Texas since 1982 dry docking at Todd Shipyard . The internal structure of the ship is in very bad shape and some parts of the hull are only millimeters thick . The recent patching after Harvey stopped the larger leaks and also did repairs to the structural supports for the boilers and engine . The permanent dry docking is expected to exceed $25,000,000
Her boilers will be way beyond their service life and with the amount of flooding she's had over the years I'd dread to think of the condition of the pipework, would likely be easier and cheaper to rip them out and throw in modern diesel engines. I'd imagine for such a task you would need to remove a large portion of the upper decks to get access...
I really like this concept... I just hope the Texas conservancy can find the funding before her bottom falls out. Our state government keeps bragging about Texas having a surplus of money instead of debt... I'd like to see them offer up the funds to keep the ONLY remaining dreadnaught preserved for ALL Americans to enjoy...!!!
If the hull is as weak as they say, the only thing to do is level it and drop 10000 truckloads of clay around it. It’s not a model that can sit on props, it needs a full bed. Make a concrete pit in the back to see the propellers.
First of all she is part of txs history the ship have reputation therefore I am of the opinion that the state of txs must spared her from destruction during the w w 2 she was terribly slow because of her age however did carried some good defensive fire with there rounds & the troops held many times the line therefore the state must do the job of preserved her for future generations
Texas was only called into active duty because of the 5 sunken battleships at Pearl Harbor. She was essentially the emergency replacement for Arizona and Oklahoma. Btw, Texas was the same speed as Arizona and Oklahoma the two battleships that were permanently sunk during WWII. So she was not outdated if you are talking about the Pearl Harbor battleships. In fact, Texas was just as fast as West Virginia which was the youngest Pearl Harbor battleship (commissioned in 1923). Texas was supposed to have a WWII career like Wyoming which was a training battleship. Texas served mainly as a training battleship until Pearl Harbor. The Navy kept her, NY, and AR as a reserve division that could become replacement battleships just in case a Pearl Harbor event happened.
Not sure what the deal is, but Google Maps shows the ship still in water and the tag says image is from 2020. www.google.com/maps/search/Battleship+Texas+/@29.7567439,-95.0899579,395m/data=!3m1!1e3
1 Victory is wood 2 Victory is a LOT smaller 3 They still had to come up with a way to simulate the side pressure that water provides to maintain structural integrity
When ever they get the money to do so, and do it, than they can fix the hull of the ship more, so in case the dam breaks (due to poor matiance becouse short of money or something), she can float and wont leak it could be fixed and drained out again.
She's been in salt water for 115 years; she needs to be dry docked. The problem is, her hull is so deteriorated, she'll crush it under her own weight. :/
Hi, iam a German who loves history, or better, the history behind those old Battleships. I don't get why there still is no money left for the restoration of this beauty. You (the Us as a country) waste way too much on your military, just cut off a few million dollar from that budget to restore and dry dock this thing, you already are and will always be the most powerful country. Even if you cut like 25-50 million dollars for restorations of your old War Vets
Texas should be ashamed for not maintaining this vessel in a state of readiness. It would take less to get her in top shape than all the fancy crap they're doing for a cheap fix. If the State was smart they would get her fully operational and the charge a fair price for day trips into to Gulf of Mexico...
All remaining battleships must be preserved for future generations to see and explore. They are all magnificent ships that deserve to be preserved forever. The USS Texas has the distinction of being the only surviving WWI battleship in the world, the rest were either sunk or scrapped. America owes a debt of gratitude to the USS Texas and all who served on her, and to preserve her means to preserve the memory of those very brave men. As americans, we can't allow this magnificent ship to be lost, it is our solom duty to save her. I fear that if we lose the USS Texas, we will lose a big part of America's soul. And those brave men who served aboard her will also be lost to history. We can't let that happen, not now or ever. She may be old but she's worth saving. I am donating to her preservation and I definitely encourage anyone who's able to do so to also donate. We owe it to our country and those men who have served on her at least that much. Anything will help. God bless America
You got a huge thumbs up from me. Our HMS Ark Royal was scrapped in the 1970's despite a huge campaign to save her and make her into a museum ship much like your USS Intrepid.
I hope this old battlewagon is saved. The British equivalent was HMS Warspite. Fought with distinction in both wars but after WW2 was being towed away for scrap. She ran aground and had to be scrapped where she was. Such a shame.
No so USS Massachusetts USS Alabama ,USS Wisconsin,USS North Dakota, USS Missouri,USS Iowa ,USS Arizona still commissioned USS Texas
Dana Coyle Is that even English?
@@danacoyle1826 none of those ships are still commissioned, they all belong to different organizations which operate them as museum ships.
Dont forgot the uss salem, she is the last heavy cruiser
I can only imagine the damage she's received from being in the water so long. Here in Chicago, we have the German submarine U-505. She stood outside, dry with exception of the elements and took a beating for fifty years. In 2004 she was moved to a new underground (dry) home and restored. The Texas needs to be dry to survive.
@@2468HOTROD There you go: weaponize the situation!
I'm a Democrat, and have supported the preservation of this ship all my life. I had a great-uncle and three cousins on the battlefield at San Jacinto. My disabled veteran grandfather used to patiently wait on the deck, and wait for me to climb all over this ship as a child. Democrats originally preserved this ship. As a 7th gen Texan I take offense at your willfully ignorant and divisive comment... 😼
@@2468HOTROD the history buffs will help
Such a Beautiful battleship, One of the finest knights of the seas during her time, of a design we can never recreate again.
lest we forget!
THE finest of her time.
She was the first warship in the water to carry 14 inch guns, and later the first warship to carry an aircraft for scouting and target spotting.
Watching this makes me sad. The USS Enterprise should have been saved too.
Why i more like uss enterprise that still kickin BUT,
Especially with future new USS ENTERPRISE CVN80
@@mihover6665 yep, the best carrier is still the best carrier even if it's a remake
I absolutely couldnt agree more, it was not just stupid, it was absolutely evil, to take her, the US Enterprise CV-6, away from us, the American people, and for all future generations, she is, and was a National and Historic treasure!!! And SHE will always be a true BAD-ASS, and when America was on its ass after pearl harborl, she never let us down, and she was actively hunting and fighting the Japanese, sometimes all alone, and she never let up through the entire war, while America licked its wounds and regrouped, at times, she was the only thing between the japanese and America, and she kicked Ass EVERYWHERE she went!!! And SHE was the most DECORATED SHIP of all time, and they destroyed her in 1958!!! I'm not just upset, but pissed off, the navy had absolutely every reason to save it, and absolutely no reason to destroy it, and she had even just been completely overhauled and repainted, after the war, she was kept turn key!!! Its like, the Navy cant comprehend what they have, or how truly precious it is, until its gone!!! And now they want to do the same to USS ENTERPRISE CVN-65, it's like watching an American nightmare all over again!!!She is America's very first Nuclear aircraft carrier, and she too was just overhauled and was absolutely immaculate and polished, when the navy pulled HER from active service to bring in a brand new carrier, she is still the fastest American carrier to this day!!! and she been in the thick of it since she was built, and she is a movie star, she was In many films since she was launched, including Top Gun!!!, she still exist, please call your representatives, and tell them to make her a National Historic landmark, she even has pieces of the originas Enterprise CV-6, in her for good luck!!! We paid for her, she belongs to us, the American people, not the clueless beuracrates who dont care about, or appreciate our history!!! God bless you all!!!
God yes enterprise should have been preserved
Saratoga should have been saved too. The only reason Texas, North Carolina, Alabama, and Massachusetts (the non-Iowa class battleship museums) were saved was because the people and governments of all 4 states led and financed a campaign to save the battleships named after their states. Sadly not a single one of the 10 out of 12 surviving standard type battleships (Nevada in 1916 to West Virginia in 1923. AZ and OK were permanently sunk at Pearl Harbor) were saved. If Texas were not saved everybody born after the WWII generation would falsely believe that the Pearl Harbor battleships looked like NC or NJ when they all looked just like Texas, a super dreadnought.
Ryan over at Battleship New Jersey had some interesting comments regarding keeping ships out of the water. (Made during his coffer-dam episode at the USS North Carolina.) Basically, it boils down to 'they're not buildings'. They are not designed for all their weight to be supported vertically on the keel and they will eventually 'bulge out' as the weight of the superstructure and upper fittings press down on the hull. They actually need the hydrostatic pressure of the water pressing in on the hull from outside to maintain their structure.
By all means create the 'dry berth' as a means of maintaining the ship, but keep it flooded, except when you need to do work on the hull. Otherwise, your ship will eventually collapse in on itself.
With the massive leaks that opened up after Hurricane Harvey, Wargaming has an event going on where you buy certain items related to the USS Texas in World of Warships, all the proceeds go to the project to save the Texas. Hopefully this will finally raise the money needed to save her.
General Obi Wan Kenobi pity the Oil Companies can't donate they made Billions out of the State.
Hurricane Harvey didn't cause any leaks.
That’s good, I’d donate and I’m not even from the state. They should run a nationwide fundraising campaign.
@@QuadinarosLS I suppose her severe list and heavy leaking just happened and had nothing to do with the storm, eh?
@@GeneralKenobiSIYE Absolutely.
Hurricane Harvey did not hit the Houston area as a hurricane. It made landfall near Corpus Christi which is about 200 miles away. As it moved inland it rapidly downgraded to a tropical storm before turning east and dumping an unprecedented amount of rain on the Houston area. Since Houston is very flat and basically a swamp, it caused devastating flooding that lasted for days.
Typically the dangers of a hurricane are extremely high winds and storm surge. Houston did not experience any of these during Harvey, and neither did the Battleship Texas. Her mooring system is designed to allow her to simply float up and down with the tides. She's experienced hurricanes before, along with countless heavy downpours. Harvey was no problem at all for her.
There were also no severe listing events or new leaks in the immediate aftermath of Harvey. Almost all the listing events she's had have been caused by the deterioration of her torpedo blisters, which are very thin and almost 100 years old. None of these have produced a list greater than around 8° or so.
An excellent idea. Preserving history of this nature is important.
Just waiting for this to happen !
It’s gonna take awhile..
July 27 '19 still waiting
Been on her twice and loved every minute. You get to feel what she was like manned and in action. The history around this vessel and those who sailed on her should always be kept alive.
I really hope that this plans happens cause I still haven’t been able to go see her and I would love to still see her.
Beautiful work, thanks for showing the detail of the retaining wall.. it’s interesting👍🏼
Been here a couple of times. Loved it.
I mean the mikasa is incased in concrete to preserve her. So this seems like a pretty good idea to keep the Texas in good shape!
Nope that is about the worst thing you can do! Concrete is porous and it will rot the ship from the outside in. That is why it is not done anymore for this very reason.
The Mikasa is in worse shape than the Texas, the concrete has eaten the structure away, and left no hope of repair either.
I've read that the concrete was actually poured inside the Mikasa as well. Part of the agreement that allowed Japan to preserve her as a museum ship required that her guns and engineering spaces be 'demilitarized'. The concrete was how they did the engine rooms, according what I read.
The USS Kidd in baton rouge has a ingenious system should check it out
I like this idea better than keeping her in water for 2 reasons the ocean wont claim her and 2 everyone will see the full hull of the ship
Guideplay yeah I agree but it would still be cool to keep her afloat but that may not work
I 100% agree with you Guideplay
Van's Videos why would they sell parts if Texas history?
d a w a e ?
They keep her in water, because it would cost 25M dollars to get her out.
Like the concept, The USS Texaa has a honorable history, that future Texans should know about!!
I am so thankful to have photos of it, taken from the top of the monument, that shows the wood decks. A shame it was not fully restored 😢
THE HULL IS ROTTEN.
IT COULDNT STAND THE HUGE WEIGHT, MATE.
My Dad quit school in 1937 and joined the Navy. After recruit training he was assigned to the USS Texas for additional training. Always said that was most fun he had before the war started. Getting her in a dry dock is good but Texas weather, with the salt air and humidity, is going to eventually win this fight. Don't know what their budget is but it's just getting too costly to keep them. I think S. Dakota had the best idea to keep the memory of their namesake, BB-57, alive is the way to go.
Okay, so the TPWD started on the USS Texas drydock project in 2010 .... That was a decade ago! Where does the battleship stand now? Still in water? Was the project abandoned?
It was abandoned. It was discovered that her interior structure had deteriorated to the point that she could no longer support her own weight in a dry berth. It was also determined that construction of the berth itself was far more expensive than originally estimated.
The problems with the structure have largely been fixed, and the new plan is to tow her to a dry dock so that most of the hull can be replaced, then she'll return to the water in a new home.
USS Texas is the only super-dreadnaught battleship still in existence. Ultimately the same dry-berthing scheme will have to be used for Massachusetts, Alabama, and North Carolina; it's just a matter of time. Rust never sleeps! The old saying in the world's navies since the ironclad days was: "If it moves, salute it. If it doesn't move, PAINT it!" Well, these museum ships don't have a crew of thousands to put on maintenance duty.
I was thinking the same thing about all the battleships . Sooner or later all will need this treatment .
Why would 15 people dislike this ? They must hate history .
Some people just hate for the sake of hating.
By all means .save this part of our heritage and history .
I'm still a little angry at my mom and my younger brother for not allowing me to visit USS Texas. God I hope I do get a chance to do so .
Putting the Battleship U.S.S. Texas in "Dry-Berth" is the only logical way of saving this historical ship. She has a lot of history and it shouldn't be lost to the Elements of Nature. It would also afford the opportunity to do some much needed repairs to bring her back to her former glory.
Wonderful idea
The Uk’s military budget is on the ropes yet we still can afford to keep every historic ship (that hasn’t been recycled) in dry dock- even HMS victory from the 1700’s seems to be in better condition than this
When we visited Lord Nelson's flagship 2 years ago they were studying ways to replace the cribbing supporting the ship to even oug stress on the hull- she is well cared for and will last for hundreds of years more. That having been said, she exists in a well funded museum setting, much like our USS Constitution. If they could dry berth the USS Texas would not detract from her history.
1700s
Nicholas Smith ur right lol
Dave Chappell could still sink a french capital ship I reckon.
Nicholas Smith lol
Sad that this has to happen to a battleship Texas but it must be done to save it
What if we make it ready for back in service?
Rather than keel blocks I wonder if they could make her a concrete cradle which would support her at all points the same as if she was in water. Between the concrete and hull perhaps there could be some sort of water/air-tight padding that would keep her steel dry and prevent further rusting.
I would love to see a new deck on that boat.
But is the hull strong enough to rest on the blocks ?
Visited Saturday. She's getting moved to a dry dock which is undecided as of yet. And will no longer be in La Porte.
Would the dry dock scenario. Still be enough to support the weight without collapsing in on it self still the water helps in supporting her structure
Battleship is build to with stand three pressure points 1. Gravity from the top. 2. Pressure from the water pressure on both sides. Over time if not in the water the ship will pancake and flatten.
exactly. it is engineered to be IN the water and there is expected maintenance and risk. removing it from that designed environment introduces other risks that were not originally engineered into the design.
2 questions is it salt water in that channel? and will the superstructure be able to hold it's self up with out the help of buoyancy?
yes salt water in the channel. yes after the repairs going on now it will support itself out of the water.
It's actually more of a brackish water in that part of the channel. A mix of fresh and salt water.
I live like 10 minutes from the monument or battleship texas and since here in houston we get strong storms and hurricanes so wouldnt it topple over with like 80 mph winds or more
While I'm no engineer surely 27,000 tons of ship should be quite safe from such winds out of the water.
It's gonna take more than that to move this 31,000 ton dreadnaught.
If the wind gets strong enough to knock over a battleship we have more pressing problems.
Alex Garcia no
Beautiful warship! But in Texas with no state taxes and low other taxes, how are they going to find the money for this???
They already found the money once, but the "board of trustees" misspent it on useless things and squandered the opportunity. That board is gone, but now we're left with the consequences of their dereliction of duty.
two yrs ago I went to Texas, and was on that ship.
What is the status of this project as of now? December 2019
Not happening, there's no money to pay for it.
@Lovell Rodriguez There's no need to scrap it, she's being drydocked and repaired later this year.
Shore bombardment wasn't a perfect tactic, but undoubtedly there were men who were able to live out a normal lifespan because German and Japanese positions were taken out by Texas's main battery.
& build a car-port style roof structure directly over it as well, & with maintenance it'll last centuries.
Remarkable!
So im guessing nothing happened with thus project? As of August 2019 it is pictured in the water still, and now with the Rona it seems like most is as a hold.
Go to the USS Texas website. The ship is being readied for tow to an undisclosed shipyard for full hull replacement below the waterline (shell plating). It needs it. I think most of the inner hull structure supporting the engines and rest of the ship has been repaired. They state that the ship will not return to the same berth. I guess they are looking for a more hospitable place that will draw more people so the dry berthing project has been scrapped as far as I know. I would like the ship to be dry berthed for preservation sake. It would have been nice to have that done decades ago then the they wouldn't have to spend so much money repairing the ship and would have keep the originality intact.
@@jth877 Years of planning, years worth of restoring and repairing every time it starts to list. Somebody's making a lot of money out of not giving it a permanent home.
@@bigwitt187 Well, the dry docking will happen. They are already starting to fill the inside of the torpedo bulges with expanding foam to create enough buoyancy for towing. The foam will be removed in dry dock. They have enough money this time to move it. The question is where? Dry berthing would be so nice... I wish all museum ships were able to be dry berthed. So easy to maintain, very little deterioration and you'd be able to walk underneath the ship and get a real idea of how big these thing are.
wauw....its GREAT to see this.
Wouldn't this expedite rust?
Seems easier to dig an absolute minimum size slip / inlet. install the ship, then wall that off. The ship would still be visible with a wall only a fraction of the size presented. If the slip was long enough, the entire opening could be filled with the earth from the dig. So no wall would be needed at all.
Interesting idea for display to enable visitors to see the enormity of a battleship, especially the one & only WWI left. Any ship/boat owner knows water ironically destroys water craft & they rust & corrode constantly. Maintenance must be ongoing to be effective. Non-ship example: the GoldenGate Bridge, constant maintenance crew on duty.
That pit might be appealing if there wasn't a ship in the middle of it, and being completely out of the water would have taken away from the battleship experience. The best part of the video was where they took it out and moored it parallel to the channel. If they had left it in that position, it would have been nice. I haven't been there, but I understand that the current location isn't ideal and the new location will probably be better.
The condition of this ship is a disgrace . I checked out The USS Alabama . It looks brand new. Hope the move to Galveston raises mor revenue
Her new home hasn't been decided yet.
The Texas was the first Battleship museum, and one of the first preserved steel ships. She has been inactive since 1948.
Alot of trial and error, and alot of learing happened along the way, which allowed for better upkeep of the Alabama, The Iowas, The Midway, and every other Warship museum that came after.
Is it still in the water?
Yup
Das ist die beste Idee. Das Schiff muss raus aus dem Wasser. Und die dadurch enstehende Landschaft ist ebenfalls ein reizvolles Ziel für Besucher. Allerdings wird das ein Vermögen kosten.
Beautiful park
This is sad because USS Texas Is the only super-Dreadnaught battleship remaining.
2018 Any progress?
Hope they can refloat and move the ship.Lower hull is quite bad.Maybe dry berth it in place and encase in cement and reinforce internally
You can't dry dock it. The thing is 108 years old and can't support it's own weight unless it's in water.
It would be an amazing view if they did this.
Put a roof over it & it'll make maintaining it in the long-term far easier.
While this set up looks very cool I’m not sure how good it would be for the ship, as is now being seen battleships when kept on dry land have the tendency to inflate out on the sides as there is not enough pressure on the sides of the ship as there should be when the ship is in water. I know it would be hard to keep it in water but it should be the better option for the ship long term as long as it goes into dry dock to get fixed. I hope whoever is in charge of this project will consider the long term impact that this plan may have on the ship.
So people won't be able to marvel at her propellers? Are they stored somewhere and can be reattached to her shafts? If not, how about building authentic looking replica propellers to attach once she's dry berthed?
God Bless TEXAS !
Yes, Texas too.
Another idea would be to fill the berth arounf the ship with backfill and cement much like the Japanese battleship mikasa
sarcastic? Never. True, though with this proposal you will be able to see what she looked like underwater as well which is kind of cool
the destroyer escort uss Stewart is back filled like that on pelican island at sea wolf park a submarine too
This is be what will be done . I've actually worked on the Texas since 1982 dry docking at Todd Shipyard . The internal structure of the ship is in very bad shape and some parts of the hull are only millimeters thick . The recent patching after Harvey stopped the larger leaks and also did repairs to the structural supports for the boilers and engine . The permanent dry docking is expected to exceed $25,000,000
@@raymondsimpson7433 Seawolf Park USS Cavalla , sank the Shokaku .
I wonder how much it would cost to fix the engines and let her run under her own power
Even if the engines would run, her screws were removed long ago.
Their towing it
Her boilers will be way beyond their service life and with the amount of flooding she's had over the years I'd dread to think of the condition of the pipework, would likely be easier and cheaper to rip them out and throw in modern diesel engines. I'd imagine for such a task you would need to remove a large portion of the upper decks to get access...
will never run again.
I like this.
And number tree the concrete blocks are Cedric and will over time will eat through the steel.
PORNTIPSGUZZARDO. sweeeet. really good
I really like this concept... I just hope the Texas conservancy can find the funding before her bottom falls out. Our state government keeps bragging about Texas having a surplus of money instead of debt... I'd like to see them offer up the funds to keep the ONLY remaining dreadnaught preserved for ALL Americans to enjoy...!!!
As a native Texan it saddens me to see our flagship and a state icon wasted so
If the hull is as weak as they say, the only thing to do is level it and drop 10000 truckloads of clay around it. It’s not a model that can sit on props, it needs a full bed. Make a concrete pit in the back to see the propellers.
jon smitt her propellers have been removed
First of all she is part of txs history the ship have reputation therefore I am of the opinion that the state of txs must spared her from destruction during the w w 2 she was terribly slow because of her age however did carried some good defensive fire with there rounds & the troops held many times the line therefore the state must do the job of preserved her for future generations
Texas was only called into active duty because of the 5 sunken battleships at Pearl Harbor. She was essentially the emergency replacement for Arizona and Oklahoma. Btw, Texas was the same speed as Arizona and Oklahoma the two battleships that were permanently sunk during WWII. So she was not outdated if you are talking about the Pearl Harbor battleships. In fact, Texas was just as fast as West Virginia which was the youngest Pearl Harbor battleship (commissioned in 1923). Texas was supposed to have a WWII career like Wyoming which was a training battleship. Texas served mainly as a training battleship until Pearl Harbor. The Navy kept her, NY, and AR as a reserve division that could become replacement battleships just in case a Pearl Harbor event happened.
I like option 4 the most
Just that easy I'll bring my shovel
Cheer~~~a ship's allotted place at a wharf or dock.
Hope she can be saved, I know her hull is in bad shape.
Not sure what the deal is, but Google Maps shows the ship still in water and the tag says image is from 2020. www.google.com/maps/search/Battleship+Texas+/@29.7567439,-95.0899579,395m/data=!3m1!1e3
The plan shown in the video will not be happening. Visit the Battleship Texas Foundation's website to get current updates on her repairs.
This is what the British has done with the HMS Victory. 🇬🇧
1 Victory is wood
2 Victory is a LOT smaller
3 They still had to come up with a way to simulate the side pressure that water provides to maintain structural integrity
They're taking so long to do this the ship is rusting and sinking...... again!
When ever they get the money to do so, and do it, than they can fix the hull of the ship more, so in case the dam breaks (due to poor matiance becouse short of money or something), she can float and wont leak it could be fixed and drained out again.
Hopefully, USS Olympia can been saved.
This battleship was sunk by gov bureaucrats.
Are you fucking stupid? It's not sunk and it's still sitting in the water to this day for anyone to visit.
Just curious...How?
So sort out already guys n gals, before its too late!
Yess just like the nomadic
if only this would happen
A ship has to be afloat, especially this one.
Not if keeping it in the water will be the demise of it.
She's been in salt water for 115 years; she needs to be dry docked. The problem is, her hull is so deteriorated, she'll crush it under her own weight. :/
Hmmm seems like a plan but the list is unstoppable the rusted metal would clearly beseen
perfect... now start a gofundme to pay for it... I'll be first to donate $100... good luck!
I may be a dissenting vote on this issue, but knowing that there are coatings that have a 50+ year lifespan it makes me sad to see her dry birthed.
Hi, iam a German who loves history, or better, the history behind those old Battleships. I don't get why there still is no money left for the restoration of this beauty. You (the Us as a country) waste way too much on your military, just cut off a few million dollar from that budget to restore and dry dock this thing, you already are and will always be the most powerful country. Even if you cut like 25-50 million dollars for restorations of your old War Vets
Thank you, cute melon. I have been on her, I am a Texan, an Air Force brat, the neice of a Guadalcanal Marine and I WANT her saved!
This looks really expensive
That a more like it.
Still waiting.
I hope that they save her
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But it says Texass on her side...
Texas should be ashamed for not maintaining this vessel in a state of readiness. It would take less to get her in top shape than all the fancy crap they're doing for a cheap fix. If the State was smart they would get her fully operational and the charge a fair price for day trips into to Gulf of Mexico...
Eugene, Ritter yeah, that's gonna be a bit difficult to do since they removed her screws long ago. Can't move a ship without the means to move her.
+Rebel Skull That and she is so old she wouldn't make the trip to the yard for repairs.
Eugene What in the Hell have you been smoking in your Vape Pipe?
Break out the needle scaler. And 1000 men. The ship is an abandoned wreck.
Tow her out to sea and let her sink. It is time to let her go. Let her rest in peace.