SpaceX Drops Some Incredible Starship News! What Will This Lead To?
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What on Earth is SpaceX doing?! Starship Booster 14.1 undergoes testing. By getting slapped? The Vertical tank farm is finally gone! Good riddance! Is SpaceX planning to build more Starship tower segments? Some shocking discoveries in asteroid samples. Did we find evidence of life? Is The International Space Station in danger?
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Do you think the feet are for another Tower section or two that will be added to the lineup for Tower two, or will these just be scrapped?
I think that the feet are for OLM 2.0
It seems that the launch tower will need a major redesign to focus on catching, while the newer one will be used for launching. This will affect the water deluge system and the flame trench.
1:35 - Great pun Felix :D
I think so... one more section!
Hi Felix, I subscribe & LOVE your show! Question: Why is Spacex scrapping "30" series Starships? Aren't they fairly new? Is it because of the new added roll-control jets?
Just some feedback. You are putting in too many jokes and redundant info. That slap joke segment was waffly and felt like it was wasting time. Maybe just get to the point.
So that’s what the kids are calling it these days, “Slapping the booster”
"It's fully erect and loaded!"
If you slap the booster too much you can go blind
Also, if you slap the booster too much, it won't get any taller.
We all need humor in these crazy times. Thanks.
Love the “7 of 9” usage.
Ok, we got to have a picture of Jeri Ryan somewhere in all of that
Resistance is futile!
Resistance is futile!
I chuckled haha
You know you are part of a light minded, but in the end still committed community of men, when you hear this stupid 7 of 9 reference and you're not the first to make a comment.
Tower is stacking, booster is slapped...
"Incredible news"
They're getting ready for the first catch attempt so I'd agree, it is good news, I'm excited to see them go for a catch on flight 5.
I agree. WAI loses its credibility everytime it sensationalizes minor updates to get quick views because they are too impatient to wait for critical news.
@@casualuser5527I agree that he hypes up a lot and always tries to be a little hyperactive in his videos, and one may like that or not, but that ain't it. The second tower and the booster catches are among the most important stuff right now in this program. Absolutely valid to get hyped about the arms slapping a test vehicle.
Totally agree, I got past the 12th minute and still looking to hear about the incredible news. That's misleading.
We have the confirmation from NASA that the deorbit vehicle will be a modified dragon - not a starship
That makes the most sense.
Why aren’t they just burning the engine on ISS?
@@PaulFlusk not enough power to deorbit the station using its own thrusters... they will need something like dragon to have enough DeltaV to deorbit it
@@PaulFlusk Not enough power. They don't need much thrust - any serious engine would rip the ISS apart - but when it comes to the final descent, they do need to decelerate as quickly as possible to ensure it comes down in the right place. The bottom of the South Pacific is a big target, but the faster it's orbiting, the less precision they've got... the more it slows, the steeper the trajectory, and the more precise the impact point.
A bit too clickbaity of a start
Annoyingly it's the name of the game.
@@gyratingwolpertiger6851 i could understand it for unique events. But for a routine news "show", where most of the viewers are subscribers and frequent enjoyers, it's a bit annoying.
Totally agree, I got past the 12th minute and still looking to hear about the incredible news. That's misleading.
I just want to come over here and yell at Felix for the super dumb clickbaity titles again. There. I'm happy now. Leaving. Didn't watch the video.
If you didn't watch it then how would you know if he talked about launch 5 or not?
🤣
They say, "Space debris."
I say, "Valuable recyclable materials already in orbit."
Nice
I’m the same with “graffiti”
Some look at it and say - that’s art
Others look and say - that’s vandalism
I look at it and say - how the f*** did they get up there??
Anything 200 feet or higher requires FAA clearance and special warning lights. That is why Expedition Everest at Walt Disney World is 199.5 feet tall.
And the Mickey Ferris Wheel at Disneyland is partially in the water. To keep it just below 200ft
"but first, I wanna tell you how to improve-" Yeah yeah, automatic 30s skip
I wish SpaceX would make an alternative proposal. Rather than deorbit, modify a Starship to be a space tug, refuel it as necessary, and boost the ISS to a garage orbit outside of GEO. And perhaps put a few Optimus onboard for maintenance or continued scientific work. That would be so much better than burning it up, even if it was only for preserving history.
exactly
The vertical tank farm was one of Elons few bad decisions. I remember him saying "why are we renting all these tanks when we make tanks for a living"
Most of the largest reverses or problems that SpaceX has suffered can be traced back to a captain's call by Musk.
@@kersebleptes1317 and the fact the company exists at all comes back to the biggest captains call he ever made when he decided to fund both spacex and tesla.
I don't think it was a bad decision, without the vertical tank farm, the early test campaign wouldn't have happened as soon as it did.
Without the vertical tanks, the belly flop maneuver wouldn't have been tested.
Every test and innovation brings results, just because they are removing the tanks now doesn't mean they had no value.
To continue to use the vertical tanks now would fall into the "sunk cost fallacy". They contributed value when they were needed, now to keep them functioning would be sunk cost.
At the time the tanks were built, SpaceX couldn't get adequate tanks to support the test campaign, but now they finally have purpose built horizontal tank farms and the vertical tanks are obsolete.
@@kersebleptes1317 he makes literally every decision so you can say this for the things that work out just as much as the things that don’t. They are learning as they go
Can we stop with the dumb jokes. honestly WAI was better before.
Watch episode number 1. 👍
Seven of Nine LOL😂
Right??? Such a perfect startrek joke line up.. glad I’m not the only one. 😂
Yeah he teed that up pretty well lol
Glad you laughed with me! :D
I'm confused. How does a leaky space suit indicate an aging space station?
The reason they'll give for deorbiting the ISS is it's too expensive to maintain, while at the same time they want more money for "diversity in space"
because sending a black lesbian to the moon is more important than upgrading the ISS. I'm really starting to hate NASA.
It’s all from the same age.
I had given up on osiris-rex news after a few months of "the capsule's back on earth, but we're still figuring out how to open it" XD Thanks for the update!
:D True!
Kudos to the editor(s ?) who worked hard on adding the _little extra_ in the whole video ! NOICE ! Captain
H2O is very common in the universe, as gas or ice. Finding it in the from of water is less likely.
why are they using rigid beams and not a set of rollers to prevent marring the side of the booster? if the had horizontal springs or hydraulics they could touch the side of the booster without worrying about screeching metal against it and keep the guide rails in line with the catch points.
It's fascinating to see the progression and innovation that SpaceX is pushing beyond our imaginations. Their rigorous testing strategy is undeniably impressive.
2:45 you got it all wrong, there are portable toilets
😁🥂
That's some HUUUUUGE porta-johns. Be like a marble bathroom with a jacuzzi tub, shower stall, full vanity.... Come to think of it, you might be right. that seems like the kinda thing Musk would order.
@CarpeUniversum well Musk is flush with cash... 😊
@@seriousmaran9414 😝👏
Heavy metal toilets! 🤘
The 7, the 9, the two Towers... one rocket to rule them all, my Captain?
Ok, Felix, you moved to the USA, closer to Spacex, but you don't need to use the imperial system either MM/DD/AA. Please stop. :(
It really would be nice if we could build the next one around it and make that a Space Museum in space I know we don't want space junk but I can't see a world where we would view the International Space Station to be space junk if it is part of our history world history I do expect that SpaceX will have way better space stations in mind but it is where we started to make a difference
Bro. Just like you said, I was subscribed and then I magically wasn’t. Party on Wayne.
I love your videos! Excellent coverage!
So Bennu's composition suggests the Sumerian cosmology may be correct, that the asteroid belt resulted from a collision of planets rather than an accretion of elements during the early formation of the solar system.
I would like to thank you for the best starship news on RUclips. I enjoy watching your content and love everything you do.
*Lego, not Legos.
Felix please lose the "Products" it's covering one third of my screen..😮
I name the lifting vehicle "THE KONG CRANE!"
In order to get enough fuel into space, the size of the Starship will have to be taller. There is a benefit to a longer rocket body in the harmonics of the vibrations. My first guess was the Starship is about 1/3 of the needed size. The problem with getting up into those wind channels is overcoming high wind issues. This may cause a limit for the max length of the rocket. Some think a changing to a 15 meter diameter, but that will come will more engines and a great complexity. The only limits SpaceX faces are imagination and basic physics.
When will Starhopper get a HAL 9000 eye? (An R2D2 eye would also be acceptable)
A Dalek eye, an egg whisk, and a tiolet plunger 😅
2:25 foot pic reference was perfect! Haha😂
He's finally learning to speak the mother tongue
I almost spit out my coffee!
That was funny 😂
That one got me, too. Felix owes me a keyboard.
Noticed the 1 less plug thanks WAI
You bet!
Alles Gute! Danke Felix
You are get to much promotion in your content.. it makes me want to STOP watching your channel
Either Bennu is the most unusual asteroid in the solar system or water was present on light bodies making the asteroids comet-like in the early solar system. If those clays on Bennu came from an earthlike planet, how much of the planet would have water-modified minerals? Just the super-thin crust, right? The other 99% would have no clays, so this is either an unusual asteroid made from the crust of a planet, or we need a different explanation of where the water came from.
A European switching from meters to feet?! You've been in the US for too long buddy.
I'm actually just alternating between the two systems as I found that I get bad comments for using either. :D
@@Whataboutit Go with the majority. I know you have to live with the Americans, but you might as well set a good example for them.
Excessive Infomercial+Advertising=Felix Greed
Signs of life on an asteroid? could it be a piece of Tiamat? Hmmm, maybe we should take another look at the Enuma Elish.
You guys remember one of the theories of how the Earth's Moon formed? Another planet that crashed into the Earth leaving a huge hunk in orbit, the Moon, and some of the the pieces crashing back onto the Earth and the new Moon, and the rest in an orbit that had it passing nearby the Earth's orbit?
What if Benu is a piece of that collision? It would explain why it has chemical compounds that can be found in the sea bed.
The composition of Benu would then match that of the moon, Earth or both. They can determine that.
My guess why only certain areas are getting the ablative underlayer and the nose DIDN'T, is because the nose is a high-flow (no restrictions) area and there is minimal heat buildup as a result. _(or minimum risk of tiles falling off)_
Whereas the belly is much wider, so slightly more restriction to plasma flow. Plus the flaps, introducing even more restrictive pathing.
Still think they should 'master' the booster landing by strapping a few barges together out in the gulf, and then hitting the dead centre a few times to ensure the tower doesn't go 'bye bye' before it should. And, as Falcon doesn't 'always' hit the centre every time, well 🙄😎🖖
If it's hovering between the arms they'll be able to slap it into the center. It'll take some timing and this was practice.
Super heavy doesn’t have landing legs.
Strapping barges together is not easy or cheap. F9 has a different landing profile entirely.
Fire breathing wizard should be the name of the first Starship that SpaceX sends to Mars.
Hmm, watching the catch tests, I'm not convinced that it's ready yet. There's too much bounce to it which could potentially be catastrophic. Then there's the nature of the catch itself. Will the booster and starship slide down the rail a short distance or will they try to precisely catch it just under the pin? If that bounce happens at the wrong time it could miss the pin. But then again there should be no bounce at all.
Secondly, I haven't seen any evidence of a precise pinpoint landing accuracy.
It would be in SpaceX's best interest to have a specific special test catching tower at a safer distance from the main facility. That way, if something does go wrong, damage will be minimal.
And I don't want to hear wannabe space wetting themselves over it when their rockets are even more hazardous than SpaceX's rockets. Those astronauts on the starliner were very lucky this time.
Better to have Crew Dragon bring them back and send starliner back uncrewed just to be safe.
Thats why guessing like you are is pointless. You have zero data other than some limited video footage and from that you draw a lot of flawed conclusions.
@@TheEvilmooseofdoom, and apparently neither do you. I've looked but have not found any conclusive data on landing accuracy.
As for the catch arms, they're looking rather wimpy and need to be beefed up for a more solid catch, and those pads on the inside definitely need a huge upgrade.
Was there an editing issue immediately after "Starship updates" title card? Why'd we get a second "things we'll cover" in there for items unrelated to starship?
It looks like a rendering issue more than an editing issue Adobe has a tendency to be annoying lol.
I was thinking about how you said ship 32 might get scrapped, but they are testing it's mate booster 14. What if they successfully capture booster 12 on flight 5 (next one), and Elon feels bold enough to try to capture the starship 31 on flight 6, after catching booster 13 or ditching it in the ocean (because of it's lucky number). Then if they capture starship 31, they relaunch it on top of booster 14 to show re-usability. I know it sounds insane but so is Space X, which is why they are so cool...
With the ablative coating and dumped HS ring, reuse isn't in the cards anytime soon. Until those steps away from reuse are reversed, it's essentially disposable. They may try to refly the first caught booster after extensive rework, though. Then we'll see where it's at.
Are those bolted-on steel stubbs on top of each of the legs on new tower to be removed, or do the tower segments get bolted to the stubbs?
I would guess those are for lifting it and would be removed.
OMG, imagine the live reentry feed from ISS!
It’s possible that the tiles on the nose cone are glued in place and not relying on pins.
STOP TRYING TO BE FUNNY BECAUSE YOU ARE NOT FUNNY
Much, much better Felix. Solid space news from start to finish. Very watchable. Thank you!
Ha Ha, I saw what you did there with 7 of 9 in that quickie. Very cool and she was a hottie too, LOL.
There's no ablative layer under the tiles on the nose because they are glued on.
No need tiles. Just blow high pressure air to form a xushion of air
Please utilize the metric system, similar to the United States Armed Forces and NASA.
@@BokoMoko65 Even the Falcon launches have telemetry in metric.
@@lotanerve Good call
Let us all use metric system
And all medical and scientific areas.
The US is basically metric but people seem to ignore it.
@@lotanerve All SpaceX operations are in metric
:D Metric all the way, baby! BUT: I used both for some time and got complaints about it being too much. Then I switched to Matric only and got complaints that these are US rockets and so I should use Imperial, then I wen't Imperial and now I'm seeing these comments. I guess I'll just alternate randomly to annoy everyone equally! XD
Will tower 2 have a flame trench or the same water deluge system?
Elon said something along the lines of 'some kind of trench' but also said he didn't think it was needed.
Keep up the great work, WAI TEAM! Love the videos!
7 of 9? Is SpaceX using Borg technology? That would explain a lot.
Looks like Space X will be busy for many years.
Don't put outlets in the bathtub. Please!
WE TRUST THIS HEAT SHIELD UPGRADE WILL WORK. IN FACT, WE WONDERED; Does the Change Have to do with "THE ORIGINAL THERMAL EXPANSION DIFFERENTIAL" between Stainless and Ceramic. We wondered if this Internal Ablative is more Thermally Forgiving to keep Ceramic Tiles from just Flying Off?? Just Curious!
We've posted in here before, a careful look at the Structural/Thermals of Re-Entry. Thrilled to see what seems wise changes. MENTIONED IS "ABLATIVE MATERIAL AND SILICONE" SO we were wondering if this may have to do with 'sort of' CHEATING THE DIFFERENCE IN COEFFICIENT OF EXPANSION OF S-STEEL ADJACENT TO CERAMIC TILES who's coefficient must be very Low.
SpaceX does like learning by building extras, Captain.
Thanks for another exciting update Felix and Team. You rock ;)
Funny reference to the rescued Borg-human called Seven of Nine(Annika Hansen) played by Jeri Ryan in "Star Trek" "Voyager" and "Picard".
Wondering if Space-X is considering installing a Load (dummy load) in the Nose-Cone during one of the Launches. Why? Well. to measure Starship Dynamics Under close to Typical PAYLOAD!
Personal opinion, I found the background music distracting. Thank you, WAI, for the great work. Figured you'd want that feedback, delivered with love and gratitude
We can send machines to Mars. Send people to space. And, yet, something smaller than a pea, growing on my brain stem, will kill me! WTF kind of experimenting are they doing in space? If space can slow the growth of the glioblastoma, maybe Elon can let me go to space. They told me I was ‘clean’, two years ago…….Elon Musk, I volunteer to go to the moon. I have an engineering degree, BOOM!!!
NASA: Hey Russia, do you have an unused satellite that you can blow up?
Russia: Why?
NASA: We forced Boeing to launch the Starliner. Now Boeing is making us both look bad and we need a media story to make both of use look better.
Russia: How would our satellite blowing up make you look better?
NASA: We will say that the astronauts are SAFE in the starliner. Plus, Russia bad.
Felix, yours is one of the few channels I look for every day! Question: recently a young lady was the speaker. Her content was so similar in construction, I suspect the author was the same as for yours. Also, her mannerisms were very, very similar to yours. Is this lady a family member? She did well enough to be completely acceptable should you wish to take some time off! You’re doing a great job of following this project!
Best regards
5:34 with the potential for a tropical depression (or greater) beryl going through starbase, I don't see this happening any time in the next week.
The commercial/selling parts of videos always get me, people turning everything into a circus ("here here 3 for 5"). I greatly admire people like Lex Fridman and Scott Manley for at least attempting to avoid being a clown. Yes I know it's the system that has been set up by others. BUT what got me here especially was using "Best part is no part" to then try to sell some crap for your house you don't need. I guess moving to US was expensive. Anyway, I can't watch this anymore past 6:40.
A small clarification. You said that the Chang'e capsule landed in "Mongolia" - note that this refers to Inner Mongolia (i.e. part of China), not to the country of the same name. It's like saying "Mexico" when you actually mean the US state of New Mexico.
Y'know, with a little ambition, NASA etc could order a TransHab style module, inflate it, slice one end off, and slide the whole ISS inside to protect it, reattach the cap, then park it somewhere safe, like Geostationary Orbit.
Heck, an object that size, covered in Starship tiles, would slow down pretty fast, bring the ISS back to Earth like a Ship in a bottle.
The cross-sectional shape of Starship is circular. At angles of attack used during reentry... the plasma flow will follow a more elliptical path - like a streamlined strut on an old bi-plane. With an elliptical path, there will NOT be a large bow shock and the boundary layer will be tight against the skin... resulting in considerable surface heating. No amount of tech-no tomfoolery is going to change that flow field. Change the Starship to look like a Space Shuttle without wings and vertical tail... sharply round the side edges, taping the sides to a round top... and move the control flaps up from the flattish reentry bottom to mid height along the sides - away from the side edge flow separation field. Something like the Convair T-18 Orbiter concept (sans the folding wings) ...BUT with the 4 control flaps.
The Chang-E 6 mission really resembles an automated Apollo 11
Ah thank you Felix for some good news.
The last couple of days have been so depressing. A find myself comparing the vision of the future under JFK, an unbounded future full of optimism and freedom, compared to what we have now. Thank goodness for Elon's achievements and thank you and your team for bringing us the news.
Maybe the Catch Pins will not be adequate enough being too small a device and having to be too precise !!! Maybe a more efficient alternative would be to have a Slanted Catch Lip around the whole circumference of the Starship Booster ??? This way the Tower Arms can catch the Starship Booster much more safely and also the Slanted Catch Lip would also serve as an extra Grid Fin (knowing that there is a plan to reduce the number of Grid Fins from 4 to 3 for future Starship Boosters so that means there will be no extra weight involved) to slow the speed of the Starship Booster on re-entry back through the atmosphere !!! Also incorporated into the outer surface of the Slanted Catch Lip could be a series of Vortex Generators or Golf Ball Dimples in order to reduce the friction Drag on the Ascent through the atmosphere !!!
Thinking out loud could Endura Coating's Composite Diamond Coatings (CDC) Specifications Series 1100 formula be changed to be slightly improved to result in a higher temperature resistant diamond coating adhesion resilience, then coat Starship's many stainless steel heat prone surfaces like Flaps, and the non tiled Outer Space Facing on reentry unshielded fuselage side so that on re-entry heat could be wicked away by diamond coating from under the new two layer heat shield tiles, and the heat would leak into the plasma stream exiting as heat lost, and away from the stainless steel surfaces adding additional surface cooling. Possibly even stabilizing Starship even more on reentry by means of improved more stable, laminar plasma fluid flow dynamics when Starship is entering Earth's upper atmosphere in a less turbulent stream, which may decrease both flap, and fuselage unwanted abrasion. The benefit of the diamond coating is the removal of destructive heat from StarShip’s many plasma heating transitioning points, even wicking heat from tiled surfaces to non tiled surfaces to be dissipated away in the trailing plasma stream. Are there any thermal engineers out there who wish to comment on a three layered heat shield system comprised of diamond coated stainless steel surfaces, layer one heat shield, layer two heat shield.
Google Search at “ScienceDirect”: Research Paper titled "Effective thermal conductivity of a diamond coated heat spreader"
Are the already-existing modules [believed to be] going into the second Starbase tower not ALREADY known to be enough for a noticeably taller tower than the first one? Have I really NOT heard that dozens of separate times?
Re Bennu; re the Titius-Bode Law, re the early speculation that the asteroid belt used to be a planet:
I had an early young-age enthusiasm for that vision. It then mostly died when I heard that total asteroidal mass was only a tiny fraction of a planetary mass. It then revived quite a bit when I read that the uneven momentum transfer possible in asteroidal collisions could eject one of the pieces out of the solar system. ... And now... this.
If the water compatibility of Bennu-material data is confirmed, wouldn't that be a huge boost to the theory of the planetary origin of asteroids (or, at least of most of the non-Trojan ones)?
If the water data are verified, let us again prioritize Vesta for investigation. Is it part of a planetary core, one more accessible than is Ceres?
@WAI note that in the June 28 media teleconference, they answered a question and said "we saw draining out was on the umbilical side not on the space suit side ". So not a spacesuit leak. They also said that this was not an unusual problem with those type quick connect disconnect liquid line valves. But, it sill might be a 40 year old part, or maybe not, if it is just a flex line that is easily replaceable, so might not be that old.
Hah! The arms lifting up instead of the booster being lowered is exactly what I predicted last week. FAR simpler than some wonky crane work with the wind blowing the booster around.
Felix, whenever you or your RUclips content creator colleagues ask us to write our opinion about something you know damn well we have no information on, my heart sinks a little more. It’s meaningless and patronising, and so obviously just a lazy attempt at driving engagement.
I mentioned before… OLIT2 probably will be taller to accommodate block2 Starship.
It would be much more difficult to lengthen the tower later.
6:21 regular plug sockets by a bathroom sink.
What could possibly go wrong? 🤣
Prefect for plugging in my Toaster.
'innuendo'..... Isnt that an Italian suppository?????
Felix, I loved these exceptionally brilliant updates on everything SpaceX and Starship!
Well done, Felix!
The China return of Far Side regolith is important for several reasons. We need to respect their tech achievement both positively and apprehensively. Also, the scientific value is immense. We would be wise to find a less confrontational solution.
dear Felix, all i can do for now is like, subscribe and share some of your videos. i will buy your subscription as i get my job. hope you wont mind me watching your videos for free till then.
After the last couple of near misses from space debris which "should have" burnt up, but didn't, who is taking a bet on an ISS catastrophe?
Why is this channel becoming so clickbaity and money grubby? There are other places to get the same “news” you are presenting here without feeling so speculative and phony.
Why doesn’t Musk sell small pieces of the tanks with laser etchings or something? Would be cool to have a piece of the tank farm knowing it was pummeled by debris from the largest rocket in history 🚀
Can the titles start giving a bit more info and be a bit less clickbaity? Every video you post has 'incredible news!' and its not motivating me to watch it because i know a decent percentage of this 'incredible news!' is not that incredible. I'd watch more of these if the title actually gave me some info about the topic at hand.
why they dont use ıss on mars or moon to make it first station before landing and make more test there if you can boost it to deorbit why they dont boost more to go mars or moon ?
Do YOU know why I OFTEN stop entirely when you shamelessly plug? Cram it at the end like SMR does
Do not smash that Join button, SLAP IT :) ...
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When will Starship land on the Moon? I have heard that the ship require about 30 re-fills (not taking boil-off into the consideration) to be able to do so in current design.
So we are almost in the forty's (ahhh, the roar'n forties) as far as ships are concerned. How many did Elon say?, way back just before hooper.