Thanks for your honesty! Off grid 20+ years and started making YT videos in 2007 before google even owned YT and I have warned creators over and over not to get involved with any sponsorships or affiliate programs that put demands on your channel and control your content. I have no paid sponsors and no contracts with any company or brand and if I do a review of a product it is because I think the product would be useful to my followers and I actually use the products. Once you sign a contract you are in their pocket and they can destroy your channel or take it down. A lot of newer channels struggle to make income on YT so they get caught up in these contracts not realizing those companies are using you and if you don't comply they will destroy you legally and hold copyright claims over your content. They also will dictate your content and it will appear fake and your followers will eventually notice and leave your channel because you have lost trust. There are so many of these controlled sponsored off grid channels out there now all following the same script that it is destroying the entire off grid YT segment and they are paying to be promoted on YT. I may not get the high views and subscribers of the paid sponsored channels but I also have full control of my channel and my integrity is intact and my followers know that I am my own man and that is more important!
UNBELEIVABLE , sorry you had to go through this but don't worry i am happy to watch both your channels. You have come long way and i so enjoy your channel and you as people.
It is great you showed this - we have been approached by a couple of MCN companies and they promise the world. So glad I stayed away and your experience and proven that doubt. RUclips should protect smaller channels from this by sending out "do you really want to do this" requests to you when you request the sign over to the MCN. Keep it up both of you 👍🏻
I’m really sorry you had to experience how bad some people are, it’s really sad. I’m glad you got your channel back. Just a word of encouragement, I moved back to northern Idaho after being gone for thirty years in part because of your channel. Seeing the beautiful views and the weather on your channel made me miss home. Thank you for your time and effort. I can see you work hard and are the kind of people I think the world needs. I’m praying you continue.
This sucks nothing like building a channel then getting shamed. Sorry this has happened to you guys. Subbed to both channels. I enjoy your work from inside your home to the sheep, chickens and of course your dogs🐾🐾💞. Love you guys 👍
Liz said it correctly, if It sounds to good to be true...Unfortunately, there are ppl and businesses out there that are willing to separate one from their money, for little of nothing. Sorry it happened to ya'll, you will rise above this. Love ya'll ❤️
Thanks for sharing this. I'm miles from being approached by any MCN, but it's good to know about the predatory folks out there trying to scam other creators.
I have enjoyed Laid Back Living since I first discovered you guys here on RUclips and love to view, like and comment on your episodes. The Lordens is also cool and I look forward to more on that channel as well. Wishing you both all the best as you continue to build and improve your awesome homestead there in North Idaho. Bye for now and take good care!
So sorry that happened to you. I didn't know why you made the second channel but I am subscribed to both. I love your video's. God bless you both and your family.
There are so many people that don't want to get an actual job that might require effort on there part. So the come up with ways to take advantage of others. Glad you got it straightened out. I enjoy your channel Keep up the good work. .
Really appreciate your openness and honesty. Too bad this happened, that company should be investigated, and I sure hope this lesson got through to you both. Meanwhile I will disagree on having 2 channels - while you may think they are different, from a viewers perspective they are not sufficiently distinct, there is just too much overlap. Using your fence building example - 1 video is plenty so it all boils down to editing choices with no need for 2 videos on 2 channels. This interlude begs for a reexamination of the content, its presentation, and POV.
Something I learned very early in my life is to believe nothing of what you hear and only half of what you see and between point a and point B lies the truth. At any rate, I just thought I would throw it out there. And one more thing never give up the control of your life to someone else. But I’m really sorry you guys had to have this experience, and I wish you both all the best in the future.!
Friends just remember what comes around goes around those who are responsible for this dastardly deed will find their just punishment and that when they least expect it.! So take comfort my friends in this.. 😉 May you be blessed, hor in God you have been enriched in every way. Wishing that the love of God fills your hearts and may God's unfailing love and peace bless you today and every day. Prayers and best wishes. 🙏😊 P.S. Just a simple friendly piece of advice be “patient“ all good things come to those who wait in all that you do because it will bring you great virtue in your lives and I say this only only because of my own experience, how important patience is. I learned patience from my wife, and I can honestly say it was one of the most valid and Important lessons that I have ever learned because you can use this lesson in every facet of your life end it will also bring you great reward.! And also know your limitation’s this is also very important.! This Friendly advice is not for the old and not young It’s for everyone. Hold a steady moral balance in your life and this will also bring virtue and wisdom. Like the Bible teaches us do unto others as you would have them do unto you. In essence life is like a …🪃 Get the picture.. Love you guys and I am looking forward to enjoying your videos. 🥰👋 God bless…
Sorry you had to go through all that, but it is another life lesson that will only make you stronger and wiser. Love both of your channels and will follow for as long as I am alive, or you stop videoing. Hopefully that doesn't happen. Have a blessed week.
Love your channels. Sorry about the scam that’s terrible. Seems like there are people and companies that that’s what they do and that truly sucks. Stay well keep showing us what you’re doing👍🏻
Scammers!! They are everywhere and in every sector. SS# compromised, Low interest CC, save on electric bill, get ATT over your current cable, fix your compromised computer, make your WEBSITE better, now help improve your YT channel, on and on and on. Glad you got out of it so little money. Thanks for sharing this.
SO GLAD you put this warning out…!! Sorry this happened to y’all. Sadly this is the way the world sometimes works and seems more like the standard now a days. Rather than businesses being reputable and using “fair business practices”, they seem to do ANYTHING that will allow them to always grow quarterly profits rather than the general idea that as long as you can make a decent profit and stay in the black and grow gradually over time. They don’t care who they stomp on and cheat in the process!
Such a shame that this has happened to you. Glad you have control back though - and the two of you are good learners. You'll certainly learn from this episode in your lives but you'll also keep learning about planning your work and also planning and editing your videos. Remember that it is mostly YOU that people are interested in and why we subscribe and watch. We are privileged to have a glimpse into your lives and it's a lovely thing to see you relationship growing and deepening. Bless you.
Sorry to hear that this happened to you. Hopefully with you speaking out about this, it will save others from getting caught. By the way, June needs a hair cut, and a BIG cuddle. She's so cute!
Mike I am so sorry that this happened to you and your wife.I love watching your channel you both are amazing people. Please let me know what the name is of your new channel. I wish you both the best in life and with the grace of God all is good. ❤
Martin Johnson - (Off Grid Living) promoted your channel, and a couple of other RUclipsrs who are close to you there in Idaho. That's how I found your channel originally. I think that was about a year ago. In fact, if I remember correctly, he had a few meet-ups with the group to help teach you guys how to promote your own channels. If nothing else, his style and format of his videos would be worth noting. He explains at the beginning of almost every video who he is, and what we're about to see. His channel, Ambition Strikes, and Good Simple Living, who are also in your area, have consistency throughout most of their videos. I think that's what I like about them all the most. Good videography with multiple cameras and perspectives, stating in clear terms at the beginning of their videos of what they're doing, and then showing some of the progress with sped up (fast forwarding) to show the progress, helps the viewer to not get bored. I really like those 3 channels and I look forward to them each week. I used to be subbed to your channel but stopped because, to be honest, it was boring. If this video hadn't been in my recommended feed today, I wouldn't have seen this video. I'm writing this in the hopes that you'll find a way to promote your channel to a broader audience, by understanding that those other channels have a lot of subs for a reason. Learn from them. Good luck.
Its just amazing how people operate!! I would never think of scamming people but obviously there are scumbags out there that all they want to do is take peoples money. Money that they take as their own without working for it!! Good Luck guys and let us know what we need to do to make your channels go sky-high!!
I was wondering what the true impetus was for the new channel... and I figured it was a legal/contract thing...but I am so glad you got through it, learned from it, and are moving on. I'm sorry you had to deal with such lousy representatives of humankind. It just isn't right. My Dad was a lawyer, and he would say that going after the company would be "sending good money after bad"... but I've learned that it might be worth it to ALSO name those on the board... the corporate officers... and any man or woman who was personally involved in the fraud and then go after them personally... Anyway, I'm glad you filled us in... I'm subscribed to the new channel and I'll try to keep up with both of them. I enjoy your content and really like the journey you have set yourselves on.
So glad you got LBL back under your control. Don't kick yourself over this, we've made some very expensive mistakes along the way too. It happens. Learn and grow from it, but you're already doing that. Cheers, and we'll see ya around town somewhere.
Wow, you guys have been through a lot. It certainly didnt show in your videos what was happening behind the scenes. Look forward to your channel growing in the future.It worked out in the end.vGood Luck, & all the best.
Sorry for all the trouble you been through. I had the same done to me with my insurance I got a letter from another company saying that i were going to drop if I didn't call the people that were going to drop me I called and they didn't know anything about it.
When someone asks for money say bye bye and run.......you want money earn it...nothing comes easy....remember walk softly and carry a big stick I'm 74 years old and never been taken advantage of because I trust no one.....and in this day and age.... I would not even talk to any one who contacted me...
I sub to both channels sucks you guys were put through this crap Lucky you guys were able to break away with them when you did.Hard lesson learned I enjoy both channels Thank you for the great content.
Yeah, control is everything. It's one thing to require proof of income and pay 90% to the company for services rendered (although I personally think 90% is ridiculous), but to give up control in the hopes that the company is honest and will pay you, is absurd.
Total scumbags! What a sham corporation! So sorry that happened to your young channel! No one deserves to be treated like that! You guys have done great content and I love your videos! I have been following both of your channels and will continue to do so. I would change the name if possible and keep both channels open. I hope that after this episode that this operation gets shut down completely! Best wishes for you guys and your future endeavors!
So sorry to hear about your problems the world is full of scammers never ever trust anyone when it comes to money and your hard work a genuine company would of given you proof of there abilities I'd expect a free period to show you wishing you all the best from this po ing on
Good video! Great info! I think you should probably just go back to just one channel , either Laid Back Livings or The Lordens. Trying to do two is really going to put a stress on you. I myself support a lot of channels because I know how hard it is to keep a single channel running and at the same time have a personal life. I have been a subscriber to your channel for a long time and I definitely have never been disappointed with your content! As always, thanks for sharing! I'm looking forward to seeing more! Thanks Rick From Virginia
People nowadays Keep your heads up. You two will get my sub and likes. It’s people like you that give hope. I’m just thinking “could I make it on a mountain with any of my Exes??? F that 😂😂😂.
sorry y'all had to go through all that bs 😞 there are so many dishonest people in the world nowadays it sickening 💔 but making this a bts channel is a great idea seems like most of the yt channels I follow do the same I think it's more personal just like talkin to a bunch of friends of your day to day & future ideas y'all are thinking about doing 💖
So sorry you guys had to experience the low life scum sucking criminals. We look forward to the continued success that you have been working so hard at. Perseverance will see you through. Be blessed.
I would have found it fishy of them to ask for 100% of your revenue to turn around and give you 90% back. Why didn't the MCN just ask for 10% as a fee?
I believe that's called a scam! I wonder if they put scammer down in the employer part of their annual taxes. 🤔😂 I hate this happened to you guys. I've subscribed to your new channel.
You had such a great year with the TV show and then signing over 100% of the channel revenue? I am glad it only cost you $3000. I am subscribed to both channels. I think the channel of all your camping and fishing videos would be great to separate from the homestead video.
Country road cure went through something similar, they didn't have any control of anything with their channel. They were scammed bad. I don't know what is wrong with people who do things like this. How can anyone feel good about stealing, horrible.
So sorry for you. The shame of the word has come to. I had my facebook page stolen. It goes back to never pay a contractor before the work is complete.
Hey Mike and Liz that kinda sounds bad on what happened to you guys and you name brand And I'm Nick and your channel just caught my eye one day from when you guys were pouring the concrete slab and making the concrete block walls 8ft and the loft above the garage..... I just think that there are a little bit of shady business people out there just double check your contacts or have lawyers read over it
Mike and Liz, I believe that you should make one of these channels your own...and stay with it. You have already built Laid Back Living. Everything you do is of interest to your viewers. It is difficult, as a viewer, to watch similar content twice. That is just my opinion, for what it is worth. Btw, "Laid Back" is the way you carry yourselves...whether you are planting a garden or trying to hold back a mountain!
you have learned that you do not sign any contract till you can have your attorney look atit. It wasnt YT but I learned this in the business I started years ago
Okay. Stuff happens. Please inform the Attorney General from the County and the State of Idaho asap. They will get your money back for you. It will take awhile but they’ll be all over these guys and make life hell for them, while recovering your money. Also - find a business person to mentor you when these decisions come around. Any reputable senior business person will be happy to give you advice for free.
Sorry you guys had to deal with this - Overall our world has degenerated quickly back to the bad old days (wild west but now on the net or phone) where there are thieves and pick-pocketers lurking everywhere. Anyway will keep following you projects and trust the revenue will return quickly. Cheers
Sorry this happened just try and let it be water under the bridge and a lesson learned. My grand said years ago don’t look a gift horse in the mouth until you go see what’s coming out the other end might be the same shit
If they kept the whole $3000, their fee should have been $300 over 5 months. No company can provide any level of personal worthwhile services for $50 or $60 a month. That does not cover an hour of combined services per month. Even doubling your revenue would not pay for a month of support services. As you said, you got away cheap. You made a good decision to break away when you did.
Your business will be only great if you are ORGANIC in dealing with your viewers as well as how you make your channel. Nobody is looking for perfect and professional.....we just want organically YOU! Great job guys. As a side note.....When I finally saw a thumbnail after a long time, but I thought....who are the Lordens and why are they stealing the channel. Thanks for the explanation. **** pass it on....BBTV are NOT a company that treats people properly****
People think they are to smart to be swindled but it can happen to anyone. It happened to me about ten years ago and I am untrusting of people to this day. So it does scar you. Look at it as a lesson and any time money is involved triple check people. Note: as you get older people try harder to swindle you.
Google you own RUclips, if you really are about RUclips and the people putting out video and us watching . You got the money you got the power. You need to go after these scammers. If you really care
Would you please put a link In subscriptions to your other channel so we may navigate easily. For convenience, and for those of us that don't remember the new name. Thank you
Not sure if this would work but maybe reupload all the videos in question to your new channel and mark them as archived. Then delete the old channel altogether. You could then monetize them again so you will get any money from future profits. Glad you stuck it to those guys. Lots of scammers on the web unfortunately.
Scammers don't miss a trick anymore where there is money involved. Other channels have been flat out hacked and lost all control of their channel. Make sure you are protected from being hacked as well. (Country Road Cure is one that successfully got their channel control back)
Thanks for your honesty! Off grid 20+ years and started making YT videos in 2007 before google even owned YT and I have warned creators over and over not to get involved with any sponsorships or affiliate programs that put demands on your channel and control your content.
I have no paid sponsors and no contracts with any company or brand and if I do a review of a product it is because I think the product would be useful to my followers and I actually use the products. Once you sign a contract you are in their pocket and they can destroy your channel or take it down.
A lot of newer channels struggle to make income on YT so they get caught up in these contracts not realizing those companies are using you and if you don't comply they will destroy you legally and hold copyright claims over your content.
They also will dictate your content and it will appear fake and your followers will eventually notice and leave your channel because you have lost trust. There are so many of these controlled sponsored off grid channels out there now all following the same script that it is destroying the entire off grid YT segment and they are paying to be promoted on YT.
I may not get the high views and subscribers of the paid sponsored channels but I also have full control of my channel and my integrity is intact and my followers know that I am my own man and that is more important!
I don't think the " specialist" was fired, I think she was a full partner in the scam!!!!
That's what I was thinking too
UNBELEIVABLE , sorry you had to go through this but don't worry i am happy to watch both your channels. You have come long way and i so enjoy your channel and you as people.
It is great you showed this - we have been approached by a couple of MCN companies and they promise the world. So glad I stayed away and your experience and proven that doubt. RUclips should protect smaller channels from this by sending out "do you really want to do this" requests to you when you request the sign over to the MCN. Keep it up both of you 👍🏻
Yep, I am at that point where I am being targeted. Glad Liz told me what a MCN was last month.
I’m really sorry you had to experience how bad some people are, it’s really sad.
I’m glad you got your channel back.
Just a word of encouragement, I moved back to northern Idaho after being gone for thirty years in part because of your channel.
Seeing the beautiful views and the weather on your channel made me miss home.
Thank you for your time and effort. I can see you work hard and are the kind of people I think the world needs.
I’m praying you continue.
This sucks nothing like building a channel then getting shamed. Sorry this has happened to you guys. Subbed to both channels. I enjoy your work from inside your home to the sheep, chickens and of course your dogs🐾🐾💞. Love you guys 👍
Thank you for your humility and vulnerability. Hopefully many will learn from your mistake, as I did.
Live and learn.
Expensive experience.
Man! Major bummer. Happy you were able to straighten it all out. Thanks for sharing
Liz said it correctly, if It sounds to good to be true...Unfortunately, there are ppl and businesses out there that are willing to separate one from their money, for little of nothing. Sorry it happened to ya'll, you will rise above this. Love ya'll ❤️
Glad ya'll are able to expose this. Liz, I have gotten a few emails from MNCs. So glad you told me what an MCN was last month.
Dang sorry guys that sucks so bad. Glad you git your channel back
Took a lot of guts to post this video to help others. Thank you for that.
Thanks for sharing this. I'm miles from being approached by any MCN, but it's good to know about the predatory folks out there trying to scam other creators.
Came, Viewed, Subbed - TO BOTH! WE’RE WITH YOU!
I have enjoyed Laid Back Living since I first discovered you guys here on RUclips and love to view, like and comment on your episodes. The Lordens is also cool and I look forward to more on that channel as well. Wishing you both all the best as you continue to build and improve your awesome homestead there in North Idaho. Bye for now and take good care!
Me too
I love the way you are planning on doing this. I like hearing your thoughts and watching what your doing on the homestead.
So sorry that happened to you. I didn't know why you made the second channel but I am subscribed to both. I love your video's. God bless you both and your family.
There are so many people that don't want to get an actual job that might require effort on there part. So the come up with ways to take advantage of others. Glad you got it straightened out. I enjoy your channel Keep up the good work. .
Really appreciate your openness and honesty. Too bad this happened, that company should be investigated, and I sure hope this lesson got through to you both.
Meanwhile I will disagree on having 2 channels - while you may think they are different, from a viewers perspective they are not sufficiently distinct, there is just too much overlap. Using your fence building example - 1 video is plenty so it all boils down to editing choices with no need for 2 videos on 2 channels. This interlude begs for a reexamination of the content, its presentation, and POV.
I am glad you are back never went to lordens
I am So sorry that you had that scan happen to you. Wish we all could do something about it. Please take care of yourself!
Something I learned very early in my life is to believe nothing of what you hear and only half of what you see and between point a and point B lies the truth. At any rate, I just thought I would throw it out there. And one more thing never give up the control of your life to someone else.
But I’m really sorry you guys had to have this experience, and I wish you both all the best in the future.!
Friends just remember what comes around goes around those who are responsible for this dastardly deed will find their just punishment and that when they least expect it.! So take comfort my friends in this.. 😉 May you be blessed, hor in God you have been enriched in every way. Wishing that the love of God fills your hearts and may God's unfailing love and peace bless you today and every day. Prayers and best wishes. 🙏😊
P.S. Just a simple friendly piece of advice be “patient“ all good things come to those who wait in all that you do because it will bring you great virtue in your lives and I say this only only because of my own experience, how important patience is. I learned patience from my wife, and I can honestly say it was one of the most valid and Important lessons that I have ever learned because you can use this lesson in every facet of your life end it will also bring you great reward.! And also know your limitation’s this is also very important.! This Friendly advice is not for the old and not young It’s for everyone. Hold a steady moral balance in your life and this will also bring virtue and wisdom. Like the Bible teaches us do unto others as you would have them do unto you. In essence life is like a …🪃 Get the picture..
Love you guys and I am looking forward to enjoying your videos. 🥰👋 God bless…
Sorry you had to go through all that, but it is another life lesson that will only make you stronger and wiser. Love both of your channels and will follow for as long as I am alive, or you stop videoing. Hopefully that doesn't happen. Have a blessed week.
Definitely a great idea. It lets you get more work done and then on the other channel we can find out what the thought process actually was.
I will watch both your channels no matter what!!!!!!.
I'm about to start my channel so I will watch out for them Glad You Got Away From That Mess
Love your channels. Sorry about the scam that’s terrible. Seems like there are people and companies that that’s what they do and that truly sucks. Stay well keep showing us what you’re doing👍🏻
Scammers!! They are everywhere and in every sector. SS# compromised, Low interest CC, save on electric bill, get ATT over your current cable, fix your compromised computer, make your WEBSITE better, now help improve your YT channel, on and on and on. Glad you got out of it so little money. Thanks for sharing this.
It’s a stinkin’ shame! That company should be taken to court for scamming and lose every penny.
SO GLAD you put this warning out…!! Sorry this happened to y’all. Sadly this is the way the world sometimes works and seems more like the standard now a days. Rather than businesses being reputable and using “fair business practices”, they seem to do ANYTHING that will allow them to always grow quarterly profits rather than the general idea that as long as you can make a decent profit and stay in the black and grow gradually over time. They don’t care who they stomp on and cheat in the process!
First, I'm sorry that happened. I've been suplbscribed to both watch and like both. Thank you
You two were violated, we all have violated people in the past. Your willingness to forgive is so critical. Nice Video!
Respect to you two.
Liz - looking cool, love the overalls.
Praying for y’all 🙏🙏
Such a shame that this has happened to you. Glad you have control back though - and the two of you are good learners. You'll certainly learn from this episode in your lives but you'll also keep learning about planning your work and also planning and editing your videos. Remember that it is mostly YOU that people are interested in and why we subscribe and watch. We are privileged to have a glimpse into your lives and it's a lovely thing to see you relationship growing and deepening. Bless you.
Glad you guys are getting straightened out;love your content you seem to be salt of the earth people,good luck,,
Sorry all that happened. Really glad y’all got your channel back though. Love watching and have followed both channels.
Thank you for sharing
Yikes, we've received emails from them in the past too
Thanks for sharing, definitely very helpful info
Sorry to hear that this happened to you. Hopefully with you speaking out about this, it will save others from getting caught.
By the way, June needs a hair cut, and a BIG cuddle. She's so cute!
Mike I am so sorry that this happened to you and your wife.I love watching your channel you both are amazing people. Please let me know what the name is of your new channel. I wish you both the best in life and with the grace of God all is good. ❤
Martin Johnson - (Off Grid Living) promoted your channel, and a couple of other RUclipsrs who are close to you there in Idaho. That's how I found your channel originally. I think that was about a year ago. In fact, if I remember correctly, he had a few meet-ups with the group to help teach you guys how to promote your own channels. If nothing else, his style and format of his videos would be worth noting. He explains at the beginning of almost every video who he is, and what we're about to see. His channel, Ambition Strikes, and Good Simple Living, who are also in your area, have consistency throughout most of their videos. I think that's what I like about them all the most. Good videography with multiple cameras and perspectives, stating in clear terms at the beginning of their videos of what they're doing, and then showing some of the progress with sped up (fast forwarding) to show the progress, helps the viewer to not get bored. I really like those 3 channels and I look forward to them each week. I used to be subbed to your channel but stopped because, to be honest, it was boring. If this video hadn't been in my recommended feed today, I wouldn't have seen this video. I'm writing this in the hopes that you'll find a way to promote your channel to a broader audience, by understanding that those other channels have a lot of subs for a reason. Learn from them. Good luck.
Its just amazing how people operate!! I would never think of scamming people but obviously there are scumbags out there that all they want to do is take peoples money. Money that they take as their own without working for it!! Good Luck guys and let us know what we need to do to make your channels go sky-high!!
I was wondering what the true impetus was for the new channel... and I figured it was a legal/contract thing...but I am so glad you got through it, learned from it, and are moving on. I'm sorry you had to deal with such lousy representatives of humankind. It just isn't right. My Dad was a lawyer, and he would say that going after the company would be "sending good money after bad"... but I've learned that it might be worth it to ALSO name those on the board... the corporate officers... and any man or woman who was personally involved in the fraud and then go after them personally... Anyway, I'm glad you filled us in... I'm subscribed to the new channel and I'll try to keep up with both of them. I enjoy your content and really like the journey you have set yourselves on.
So glad you got LBL back under your control. Don't kick yourself over this, we've made some very expensive mistakes along the way too. It happens. Learn and grow from it, but you're already doing that. Cheers, and we'll see ya around town somewhere.
Thanks for the info- I watch both channels- I enjoyed Your episode on Homestead Rescue on the Discovery channel too ✅✅👍
Good luck to you guys. Keep at it.
Wow, you guys have been through a lot. It certainly didnt show in your videos what was happening behind the scenes. Look forward to your channel growing in the future.It worked out in the end.vGood Luck, & all the best.
Sorry for all the trouble you been through. I had the same done to me with my insurance I got a letter from another company saying that i were going to drop if I didn't call the people that were going to drop me I called and they didn't know anything about it.
When someone asks for money say bye bye and run.......you want money earn it...nothing comes easy....remember walk softly and carry a big stick I'm 74 years old and never been taken advantage of because I trust no one.....and in this day and age.... I would not even talk to any one who contacted me...
Sorry to hear, myself and my Wife are going to be starting a You Tube Channel too, again sorry !!! Liked you both #60 and Subscribed!!!
I sub to both channels sucks you guys were put through this crap Lucky you guys were able to break away with them when you did.Hard lesson learned I enjoy both channels Thank you for the great content.
I will let all the RUclips channel i watch know this thanks guys
I can't believe that contract. 100% and they give you 90% back??? RED FLAG!!! SO glad you got out from under that. (sub for both channels)
Yeah, control is everything. It's one thing to require proof of income and pay 90% to the company for services rendered (although I personally think 90% is ridiculous), but to give up control in the hopes that the company is honest and will pay you, is absurd.
Total scumbags! What a sham corporation! So sorry that happened to your young channel! No one deserves to be treated like that! You guys have done great content and I love your videos! I have been following both of your channels and will continue to do so. I would change the name if possible and keep both channels open. I hope that after this episode that this operation gets shut down completely! Best wishes for you guys and your future endeavors!
So sorry to hear about your problems the world is full of scammers never ever trust anyone when it comes to money and your hard work a genuine company would of given you proof of there abilities I'd expect a free period to show you wishing you all the best from this po ing on
Good video! Great info!
I think you should probably just go back to just one channel , either Laid Back Livings or The Lordens. Trying to do two is really going to put a stress on you. I myself support a lot of channels because I know how hard it is to keep a single channel running and at the same time have a personal life. I have been a subscriber to your channel for a long time and I definitely have never been disappointed with your content! As always, thanks for sharing! I'm looking forward to seeing more!
Thanks
Rick From Virginia
People nowadays Keep your heads up. You two will get my sub and likes. It’s people like you that give hope. I’m just thinking “could I make it on a mountain with any of my Exes??? F that 😂😂😂.
It's something that is a shame that it happened. Good luck in the future.
Ya this whole time period was weird and didn’t seem right! Now it all makes sense.
sorry y'all had to go through all that bs 😞 there are so many dishonest people in the world nowadays it sickening 💔 but making this a bts channel is a great idea seems like most of the yt channels I follow do the same I think it's more personal just like talkin to a bunch of friends of your day to day & future ideas y'all are thinking about doing 💖
So sorry you guys had to experience the low life scum sucking criminals. We look forward to the continued success that you have been working so hard at. Perseverance will see you through. Be blessed.
So sorry this happened to you guy's
Sorry for you both 😮, some people are just bad.
Sounds like scammers are everywhere. Good luck, I will subscribe to your new channel.
How we get on the new channel.
I would have found it fishy of them to ask for 100% of your revenue to turn around and give you 90% back. Why didn't the MCN just ask for 10% as a fee?
I believe that's called a scam!
I wonder if they put scammer down in the employer part of their annual taxes. 🤔😂
I hate this happened to you guys. I've subscribed to your new channel.
Sorry to hear this. Too many greedy people out there these days. So sad that people are like that.
It seems like what this company did was not only shady, but illegal. I would think BBTV needs to be investigated by someone.
You had such a great year with the TV show and then signing over 100% of the channel revenue? I am glad it only cost you $3000. I am subscribed to both channels. I think the channel of all your camping and fishing videos would be great to separate from the homestead video.
Country road cure went through something similar, they didn't have any control of anything with their channel. They were scammed bad. I don't know what is wrong with people who do things like this. How can anyone feel good about stealing, horrible.
Was you called misty dawn farm?
So sorry for you. The shame of the word has come to. I had my facebook page stolen. It goes back to never pay a contractor before the work is complete.
Hey Mike and Liz that kinda sounds bad on what happened to you guys and you name brand
And I'm Nick and your channel just caught my eye one day from when you guys were pouring the concrete slab and making the concrete block walls 8ft and the loft above the garage.....
I just think that there are a little bit of shady business people out there just double check your contacts or have lawyers read over it
Mike and Liz, I believe that you should make one of these channels your own...and stay with it. You have already built Laid Back Living. Everything you do is of interest to your viewers. It is difficult, as a viewer, to watch similar content twice. That is just my opinion, for what it is worth. Btw, "Laid Back" is the way you carry yourselves...whether you are planting a garden or trying to hold back a mountain!
How do I get to your new channel is it called the Lordins ?
All kinds of scammers out there good luck in the future guys
The Lordens was just discovered by me
you have learned that you do not sign any contract till you can have your attorney look atit. It wasnt YT but I learned this in the business I started years ago
Okay. Stuff happens. Please inform the Attorney General from the County and the State of Idaho asap. They will get your money back for you. It will take awhile but they’ll be all over these guys and make life hell for them, while recovering your money. Also - find a business person to mentor you when these decisions come around. Any reputable senior business person will be happy to give you advice for free.
Hope other channels watch this and learn from your experience
Sorry you guys had to deal with this - Overall our world has degenerated quickly back to the bad old days (wild west but now on the net or phone) where there are thieves and pick-pocketers lurking everywhere. Anyway will keep following you projects and trust the revenue will return quickly. Cheers
Sorry this happened just try and let it be water under the bridge and a lesson learned. My grand said years ago don’t look a gift horse in the mouth until you go see what’s coming out the other end might be the same shit
If they kept the whole $3000, their fee should have been $300 over 5 months. No company can provide any level of personal worthwhile services for $50 or $60 a month. That does not cover an hour of combined services per month. Even doubling your revenue would not pay for a month of support services.
As you said, you got away cheap. You made a good decision to break away when you did.
Your business will be only great if you are ORGANIC in dealing with your viewers as well as how you make your channel. Nobody is looking for perfect and professional.....we just want organically YOU! Great job guys.
As a side note.....When I finally saw a thumbnail after a long time, but I thought....who are the Lordens and why are they stealing the channel. Thanks for the explanation.
**** pass it on....BBTV are NOT a company that treats people properly****
People think they are to smart to be swindled but it can happen to anyone. It happened to me about ten years ago and I am untrusting of people to this day. So it does scar you. Look at it as a lesson and any time money is involved triple check people. Note: as you get older people try harder to swindle you.
Google you own RUclips, if you really are about RUclips and the people putting out video and us watching . You got the money you got the power. You need to go after these scammers. If you really care
I couldn't hear the name of your new channel so would you send it me. been following you since you started.
Would you please put a link In subscriptions to your other channel so we may navigate easily. For convenience, and for those of us that don't remember the new name. Thank you
Not sure if this would work but maybe reupload all the videos in question to your new channel and mark them as archived. Then delete the old channel altogether. You could then monetize them again so you will get any money from future profits. Glad you stuck it to those guys. Lots of scammers on the web unfortunately.
Liz, you are doing voice overs, right?
With Google taking 45% of your revenue why would you give away another 10% , keep it in house so you know what's going on
Yea guys i learn never sign over your money to anyone if they cant trust that you pay them there share never give it to them
I am so sorry, that company sounds so shady.
GOOD LUX
Scammers don't miss a trick anymore where there is money involved. Other channels have been flat out hacked and lost all control of their channel. Make sure you are protected from being hacked as well. (Country Road Cure is one that successfully got their channel control back)
Glad your nightmare is over. Now you can move forward with both channels.