My Honest Opinion | New Fall 2024 Coach Bags
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- Опубликовано: 13 сен 2024
- Everyone is talking about the new Fall bags from Coach this season! The Coach Empire Carryall and the Times Square Tabby might be the hottest bags from Coach at the moment. But, don't hate me. I don't like those bags or even the Coach Brooklyn Shoulder bag. Give me a chance to explain and watch as I give you detail reasons why I am not feeling these bags, something no one else is saying.
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This year I'd love to add more pieces from Hermès like the Birkin size 40, Constance, 24/24 and Bolide. Maybe I'll be bad and get an Hermès Kelly 40! I also recently fell in love with the Chanel Jumbo- so that's kind of a must-have for my collection, along with a Chanel Mini Rectangle and a Chanel Reissue. Aside from those, I'd love to add a few more Fendi Peekaboo bags to my collection along with a Fendi Baguette. Make sure you subscribe to see what I buy this year!
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So what our your thoughts on the new Coach bags? Do you agree with me or have a different opinion? Let me know 😁
Caleb, love your channel! Honestly, I do think Coach is still darn good. I have bought them for years, moved onto higher priced luxury and still purchase Coach bags. Occasionally with all brands, I have walked into a boutique wanting to see a specific bag, was not very impressed and eventually did buy the bag. Sometimes I wonder if our expectations could be high?
Hi Donna! Thank you! And you could have a good point with expectations!
I saw an article from High Snobriety which touted the larger Caryall sizes as an affordable Birkin-like bag. Like you, I like a capacious bag, which is what interested me. The larger ones are attractive, but I appreciate your opinions about the quality. I want a bag that will last a long time and not lose its shape from daily use.
I think it is fair to say that all of the brands we know and love Coach, LV, etc will never be vintage quality ever again.
Truth
💯
Gen X’er here. I have about 20 Coach bags from 80-90’s. There is nothing that beats them. I was always hoping as their Gen X clients aged they would bring back a (now) luxury line that is exactly those (formerly) made in USA old time thick leather bags. As fashion cycles swing and quiet luxury came out I was reallllly hoping they would do it again because I think there are a subset of us who would pay super top Coach dollar for their decades ago quality now. My vintage pieces are absolutely killing it. Blacks, British tans, forest greens, reds, they all slay nowadays. Still.
Right? I am pretty sure I will not be the last owner of my vintage Coaches. They will keep slaying long after I'm gone!
I would love it if they rereleased the older bags made at a higher quality. People would pay a pretty penny for those bags for sure!
Vintage Dooney Bourke are indestructible, probably my favorite
I just sold some older unused coach bags to a GenZ girl. :)
Fellow Gen X'er. I've noticed that the quality of all fashion has seriously plummeted over the last 25 years. It all looks and feels like low-range mall chain merchandise from the 80's.
I actually disagree on your take on Brooklyn and empire carryall. Especially for empire carryall 48, 1600 price tag for that size and hand brushed leather to create the worn and soggy style is definitely worth it when comparinh to other designer brands for the similar style ( 4k above).
@@congluo480 I agree. I love it.
The carryall 48 was on the Coach website for $895 this morning.
I think the $1600 is only for the 48 burnished honey colour which they made very limited quantities of. This was mentioned in one of the TIkToks I saw. Only less 10 was made I believe. While other colours should retail about $800+
I have the Margaux and I have to say it’s so frustrating when people compare it to the Birkin. Why can’t it just be the Margaux? And why diss the Margaux because it doesn’t “add up” to the Birkin? It doesn’t have to be one or the other, both can be great bags.
The Row paid a lot of marketing dollars to be compared to the birkin!
@@user-hy2fz4lq3s and we just rolled with it apparently. They aren’t anything alike
I say it’s better than a Birkin because I can buy them new without playing the game!
Hey Melissa! I definitely wasn't dissing the Margaux, it's a stunning bag! I was rolling my eyes at the whole "next Birkin" conversation everyone was having earlier this year.
@@CalebSnell I’m sure it’s a marketing ploy, I just don’t see how the two compare.
Strongly disagree with your takes here. Chanel and Louis Vuitton are producing bags that the handles fall off of and yet, somehow, folks still dish out 9k and more. With the price of everything going up, I think the bags are priced and well produced. The Brooklyn 39 I saw in store was stunning. But that’s just me
Exactly, totally agree MrSincerity88!
Agree! The empire carryall is amazing
Exactly!! 💯
The empire Caryall 40 in the Merlot, is absolutely STUNNING! 🥰
I think COACH is doing a good job reproducing these bags that are affordable, not everyone can afford The Row and Hermes. By the way I just bought a simple tote from LL Bean and had my initials put on, getting a lot of compliments, I do have luxury items, but I’m not obsessed with them!
As someone who remembers coach leather from the late 90s to the early 2000s the coach bags of today don’t compare or compete. It’s a totally different products. For coach the prices have definitely crept up over the past few years and for contemporary they are over priced. Luxury or contemporary if it’s not good it’s just not good
Thanks for sharing! I’m just disappointed in the bags that have a center divider still. Just my opinion, but I prefer one large opening for my pouches. ☺️
Totally agree, they keep putting so many dividers and it makes the bag smaller inside!!!
I love my pouches too, so I know how you feel!
i was wishing they had done a burnished times square tabby 26 it would be super cool if it was two toned❤ i love the deflated quilts❤
Right!? It would be such a vibe!
Coach hire Caleb as a consultant! We need Coach to pivot and get back to the true craftsmanship and material
I'm totally here for that job! I agree, I miss the old standards at Coach!
Thank you for your honesty!!
Always!
Loving Coach more and more. I wouldn’t mind the navy tabby
They did have some great colors this season!
I tried on the Brooklyn a few weeks ago and also thought it was way too thin...I like the look but it felt a little cheap. I haven't seen the Empire in person but I do like the style. You make some very good points about the interiors!
Thank you! Yeah, there were just little misses here and there with everything that just lead to the whole thing being a miss for me. Such a shame too, I was looking forward to it!
Agreed
Me too. I was obsessed about it and finally tried it on, but I was disappointed. Instead, I bought the Coach Lori bag and you can definitely feel the quality.
@@martharodriguez3888 I was unfamiliar with the Lori, so googled it and it's awesome! Definitely looks higher quality!
So apparently only one of the Empire Carryall 48 colours is $1600 because that one is hand burnished or something. But other people have been reporting that the Empire 48 in Merlot is $895US. I have a 40 on the way to me and am I really excited!
I've also been using a Brooklyn 39 as my work bag for the past 2-3 ish months or so (I got one of the Buy Now bags in Forest Green when they were limited), and it's help up amazingly well. It's deceptive in how much it can hold! Between those 2 bags, I take the opposite view from you - Coach did really, really well with these releases.
Oh! That's good to know about the prices!
Just found a vintage Coach 1970's bag in my mother's collection. Great condition. 😊
That's so cool! And it's even more special since it belonged to your mother!
Just grabbed the maple Brooklyn 23 for my birthday and it’s the perfect running around bag 🥰 fits my small essentials. For sure loved over the bigger ones.
Yayyyy we can save some money another season 🥴or will we , we shall see 🤪
Hahaha! We just have to stay strong!
I want that Empire 48 BAAAAAAD! 😂
Great video!!! Love your content
Thank you so much!!
Coach bags are such good quality definitely am looking to get quilted tabby it’s stunning and new plum and navy colour and same quality as 2k+ bags!!
I have been collecting vintage Coach for the last year and I have to agree with you on the quality. I have 2 Bleecker bags and a Legacy tote and they are really sturdy and have super nice linings.
I miss the Bleecker and Legacy eras- they were so good!
Vintage coach lover here, and the leather on my bucket bag from 2001 is top tier! Just impeccable! ⭐️
Right?! The old stuff is so good!
As with all things, to each is own. Some of us are downright tired of the Tabby, whether it’s puffy, inflated, or deflated 😂 and others of us like a flanker with a tweak here and there. I was interested in a longer (from top to bottom) version of the Tabby and the TS scratched that itch for me. Thank you for sharing your thoughts on these.
Haha, you're so right! A taller Tabby would be nice!
Wowwwww - so harsh Caleb 😂😂 - kidding, but I quite love the Empire, already ordered one 😉
Haha! I'm sorry, safe space!! I hope you love your Empire!
I think you are spot on. I have returned the Brooklyn twice. Not crazy about the new Tabby Times Square or Carryalls. I am one of the folks that wish they would go back to the quality from the 80's and 90's. Thanks for the information.
Thank you! The Brooklyn really had my hopes up, but every time I go in to see one, it disappoints me. Hopefully Coach gets back to their roots of good quality.
Agree 100%. I have two vintage Mulberry satchels and the leather is exquisite. It ages beautifully. I also look at the leather and try to envisage how it’s going to age. There is a lot of microfibre linings out there, which catch dust and dirt and bags look dirty after one use. I trust your review 100%.
Thank you so much!! And I agree- the older Mulberry bags had amazing leather! I'd love to get my hands on a well worn Bayswater in Oak- that would be awesome! And you're right about microfiber linings- not only do they produce microplastics, they get dirty so fast!
The Brooklyn had me tempted at first glance. Great points on the bag quality. I need a pretzel bag charm in my life! 😂🥰
Haha you definitely need the pretzel charm!!
Interesting perspectives. I enjoy Coach design as I own several including the Brooklyn bag and Tabby bags. I agree with your point of view when it comes to the material on the Brooklyn and the multiple iterations of the Tabby styles. Thanks for sharing! ❤
Thank you for watching!
I would like to know what you think about the new all leather backpacks they look buttery soft ❤
I enjoyed the empire’s leather in store but you brought up good points when we were looking at them. I agree 💯 that the quality for this price point is not matching. ❤
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Thank you, Lonnie!
@@lonnie-rs8km thank you Lonnie! ❤️
I appreciate your thoughts about the longevity. I really want to try this style and am never going to buy the Row Margaux, so I think I'm gonna go for the 40 and just see how it lasts.
Thank you, Jennifer!
The empire 40 and 48 are very different bags than the smaller sizes. They are “soft” empire, squishier and slouchier, due to being made of a different leather, having less structure and a different interior design. The smaller bags are glove tanned while the 40 is top grain. No center divider and less structured overall. I agree that the smaller sizes just look similar to past carryalls, the shape needed the dome to be higher imho. I don’t understand why the 35 was not also “soft”. I am relieved the inside is not leather as the 40 would’ve been too heavy for me otherwise (I got the black). The $1600 version I believe was hand distressed and treated like the runway versions. The regular 48 is not that price. I don’t care for the burnished look either, makes me think of oil stains.
I feel like the 35 should have been soft as well. Haha- oil stains, now I can't unsee it!
I really wanted to love the Brooklyn, but I completely agree with everything you said-the execution just wasn’t there. That interior would drive me nuts! On the other hand, I’m loving the TST and can’t wait to see it age and get a little beat up for that rugged look 🤩 Great video Caleb!
I know- I was hoping the Brooklyn would be perfect, but like you said, the execution just wasn't there. 😩 And I agree, the TST would look perfect after a few years of wear! Thanks for watching!!
I would like to know alternatives that you would recommend to these. I actually love the Time Square Tabby and while it may be reminiscent of an older deflated Chanel, I think the color and quality is there, as we all know Chanel prices are super inflated and the quality in my opinion is about on par with Coach as of late which says a lot for both brands. However, I'm with you on the Brooklyn line.....it honestly looks cheap to me whereas the TS Tabby looks more expensive for the price and quality. I'm honestly in love with the Empire 48 and while I understand your point about the leather thickness, if it was made with the glove tanned proprietary leather it would weigh as much as a toddler and everyone would be complaining about that. There are genuine concerns about quality vs price with all brands.....but if you have alternatives for reasonably priced and sized bags I think we would all tune in to that video!
An alternative video is a great idea! And you made some great points! I'll have to do some research and see what I can find out for alternatives!
You bring up some very good points! I too, am not a fan of the interior of the Empire but that didn’t stop me from purchasing! I like the feel and thickness of the leather. To me, it’s buttery soft and substantial. I respectfully disagree regarding the Empire 40 not aging well. I think this natural full grain has the potential to do just that! The smaller sizes of this bag, being gloved tanned leather, with scratch to death. I do hope they make more bags in this natural full grain as I over Coach’s gloved tanned leather. Thanks for the review!
Thank you! I agree- using a higher quality leather than the glove tanned leather for other bags would be a good move on Coach's part!
I totally agree with your comments about the leather on the new coach bags. I examined them all and the leather quality does not compare to their vintage bags. But let’s face it Chanel and LV quality today is a joke also. Coming out with different tabby’s over and over and other styles too is no different than LV with their different Speedy’s and Neverfulls they have been doing the same thing a lot longer. Let’s face it where would Hermes be without their Birken and Kelly bags. They may be one of the few company’s where the quality has remained outstanding but as far as creativity they make the same bags in different sizes and types of leather and metal trim. But people want it so….
All valid points!
$500 is nothing now for a handbag sadly. Also, enough with the tabbies 😂. This tabby does nothing for me. The quilted tabby was one of the best.
Thank you for saying it. I need to see another style 😂
Haha exactly!
I have the OG Tabby that was much bigger minus the top handle. I didn't like when they made them puffy. However, I do like the Times Square Tabby because of the beautiful fall colorway. But I'm going to wait awhile to see if it's worth the money.
The colors are really good- I loved the green!
I got the regular quilted tabby 26 in navy bc I think it’s the perfect shade. I agree on the center divider being annoying, but I also got the largest Times Square tabby in black bc it does remind me of vintage Chanel but without the flashy logo and I know im going to enjoy how comfortable it is. I agree with your points on craftsmanship though
That darn divider! haha!
The Time Square Tabby looks like a deflated Madison Pillow. With those big apple, Statue of Liberty, yellow cab & Empire State Building charms, which by the way you can find from those I ❤ NY gift stores near Time Square, the TQ Tabby looks like a square pizza to me 😂
Great- now I want pizza! haha!
Thank you for this and your opinion. I agree there is a rare item that impresses me from Coach these days which is just depressing. I remember wanting everything and in multiple colors for years, but the only thing peaking my interest was the Broome from an earlier release nothing from this season. I’m just not seeing the quality but that is also apparent in other brands as well.
Thank you, Nancy. I agree- Coach used to be my go-to brand, but lately it's just been disappointing and underwhelming. Hopefully they'll catch my interest again later down the road? I hope? haha
The two bags behind you on your right, are so richly beautiful.
I think so too!
I have the 26 in black and LOVE IT! 💖
oh! That's a really classic choice. I might have to get the 26 as well!
I bought the 26 in Maple and it really is a lovely color. I would have loved a size 30- wonder why they jumped from 26 to 35?
You’re in good company Caleb and I’m here to support this video. The new drop isn’t a mic drop. Not impressed with the Times Square nor the Brooklyn or Empire. I think the buck stopped at the quilted tabby. Not excited. Great points you’ve made!!
Thank you, Julie! I appreciate that! Yeah, I'm ready to see something new from Coach for sure!
Overall, I wasn’t as disappointed in the collection but I loved your review!! I’m really intrigued by the Brooklyn and almost went for it in ruby recently, but I’m still undecided. I’m really shocked by the quality issues you showed. It’s so disappointing because I always loved Coach quality. 😢
Thank you, Lula! It really is disappointing- Coach used to always be a step above similar brands with quality- it's a real shame!
Sooo disappointed to hear about the Brooklyn. I really like the way it looks. I had heard about the inside flaking and couldn’t understand because I thought the inside was just the other side of the hide. Now that you’ve explained it’s poorly painted lining, I get it now. Very disappointing.
The Brooklyn is a fabulous looking bag- maybe the one I picked up at the boutique was a dud? Only time will tell!
I agree. I love the Tabby. I own 2 (the 26 and Pillow 18) but have no interest in adding the Times Square Tabby. The Merlot color is beautiful though for Fall. Thank you for sharing!
I agree- I love the Merlot! So rich!
I just ordered a Brooklyn bag! It’s so nice and soft, I do agree it’s on the thinner side but I did actually like that. Let’s see how long it lasts!
They came in some beautiful colors this season!
You made me go grab my tablet. I need the bag in the back ❤Brooklyn no & that waffle looking Tabby no, but the huge version of Empirecover all….YES. I want it
Haha! Overall, it's a really neat design! I just wish I could have fallen in love with it!
I appreciate your honesty. I agree 100%.
Thank you so much!
Fall lover over here!!! I really like the Brooklyn in suede. Great video Caleb!!! Happy weekend :)
Thank you so much! Happy Weekend!
I was really only looking at the Empire because of someone I saw on IG… don’t think it’s gonna be added to my collection at this time. Great video! Thanks for sharing 😊
Thank you, J! I was really hoping to love the 40cm, but it had too many design quirks for me personally.
I'm coached out. I brought two 33 tabbies. However my burgundy coach combo suede/alligator skin leather bag from 2020 is chef kiss, so glad i have it!
Your burgundy bag sounds gorgeous!
I watched Autumn and Dawn’s unboxings, I do like the new quilting on the tabby, it does give vintage Chanel vibes. I absolutely love the shape of the empire and the burnished look in that Merlot is omg gorgeous. But you’ve seen these in person, that makes all the difference, quality is important spending money on handbags. LV quality and Chanel have gone down hill but prices keep going up, it’s sad.
Quality is super important. But I agree- I do love the Merlot!
I'm totally on board with all of this. I was bummed when I went in store and saw the actual pieces (which obtw also had different hues IRL vs. on the website). I wanted SO BADLY to love these.
I know! I was so excited to see the Empire IRL, and it was just kind of a let down. And you're right, the colors aren't as rich and vivid IRL vs website.
Why oh why do they have to put that center pocket in the Tabbys??? It's a narrow bag to begin with and this makes it even harder to fit stuff in it! I love the open soft Tabby (I've got the denim one you have). Also I have a bunch of 90s Coach where the inside of the bags is the other side of the leather and the leather was luscious ❤ Unfortunately mine were in a closet they had a mildew problem 😥
I love my denim Tabby! And I'm really glad it doesn't have that goofy center pocket haha! I'm sorry to hear about your vintage Coach bags, that had to be heartbreaking!
Totally in agreement with you, that glove tan leather is nothing like we had seen coach before...
Thank you, catlady- and I agree 100%
Well, i bought the Brooklyn 39, i haven't received it yet, and i am excited. I haven't bought a coach in a long time, so i will see how the quality has changed.
I hope you enjoy your new bag!
Thanks for pointing out some of these potential issues. I’m such a “it’s cute. I want it” shopper that I don’t always look at the long term wear.
I'm glad I could help! I used to be the same way, but now I want to make sure I spend my money wisely on pieces that I'll have for a really long time!
I agree !! The Brooklyn and the Empire bags look so thin and cheap 😞 Long gone are the days of 1941 leather , there is absolutely no comparison! The only one I purchased is the Times Square Tabby in the size 20 , and even that I’m 50/50 on; at least it has the jacquard lining - but I fully I agree with you , I’m underwhelmed by this collection , I was expecting more quality, and a bummer that the 26 TST only comes in Black , why didn’t they make it in all the colors ? 😢
Thank you, Millie! I miss the old days of good quality thick leather that ages well! I will say, I do appreciate the jacquard lining more than the microfiber, it's going to wear so much better.
@@CalebSnell yes !! 1941 bags always had jacquard lining ❤️and yes way better than micro fiber for sure
When Stuart first revitalized the brand, I got one of the handpainted tea flower dinky bags and a custom rogue bag from their New York City flagship. The quality was so good! I also still have my tote bag from high school and similarly, the quality is amazing. I feel like Coach is starting to cheapen in their bags again, which is the old trap that they fell into… it’s tough these days so every brand is doing it!
Hey Sofia! It's a shame Coach can't learn from their history!
Totally agree on the Brooklyn I was just in coach yesterday the leather was so thin on the small one. I was shocked. Tabby def still in style tho. They were flying off the shelves yesterday. It’s really user friendly. The Ruby red is gorgeous
The Ruby red really is gorgeous! And it's such a shame about the Brooklyn, I had high hopes for it!
Thank you for keeping my feet on the ground lol I'm in love with the merlot/brass combo but I just haven't committed to a style.
Haha! I'm happy I could help! Yeah, I love that colorway too, it's such a classic combo.
The Brooklyn interior is not painted. It’s brushed with Tokonole to make the nap lay flat, essentially the interior is burnished.
So the Tokonole is brushed or painted on. That’s interesting. How were you able to find out?
@@CalebSnell tokonole is a burnishing gum/glue. Usually it’s brushed on and the you take a piece of glass and rub it on the nap to lay it flat. I’m sure coach uses a more industrialized version of that (probably an industrial stamping machine) since they have to work on large quantities. I bought the Brooklyn and compared it to the leather items i make myself and it’s the same finish on the flesh side.
The one I tried on in store was already flaking. I wish they had just finished the suede interior for a more luxe feel.
@@CalebSnell I feel like Coach doesn’t use the highest quality leathers sometimes so if they would have used the suede interior, the fibers would have gotten all over the place too.
I agree late 90s early 2000s is when Coach started to go down the cheaper route. My goal was to get a Coach bag once I went off to university. That's the year all CC's totes were super popular, especially where I went to school. Wasn't my vibe. I did purchase a few wristlets over the years because I don't carry much, but it's not the Coach it was when I was a child a dreaming of the day when I finally get one of my own. I understand times have changed and they want to make a profit but that's what really set Coach apart back then. Now there just part of the group. 😞
I agree! It's such a shame that they're just in it for the profit and not the quality and reputation. I hope that changes
Would love to hear your thoughts on the new Cassie 17.
I haven't seen it yet, but I'm excited to!
I love my Brooklyn 39 but I did buy mine back in February after the fashion show so maybe mine is different? But my Brooklyn 39 is holding up well. I also have the Brooklyn 23 in that ruby color and I have the time square tabby coming to me in the regular size in Merlot and so excited. I do agree w/ you I do wish they made the time square tabby look alittle bit more lived in but excited to get it.
I'm excited for you, Stephanie! Nothing beats the feeling of a new bag!!
Agree 💯-especially regarding Empire Carryall 40. So not worth the hype!
Right!? I'm hoping the Spring drop is better!
I’m totally with you! I have found several pieces very interesting in this fall line up. I ordered the Carryall 28 from Neiman Marcus and the leather was my precise gripe - the leather is just so so. I don’t think it will age like my vintage Coach pieces which is what I also brought up in my first impression video. Darn it for sure!
Thank you! I miss how the older bags aged- that leather was fabulous!
thank you as coaches it not my thing the carryall is so sad the 48 is coming for holiday I love fall as October baby it sad back in day fall was best Time for coach I was feeling bad thank you that why I love you Caleb they only thing that good is Christmas holiday red head barbie she so beautiful all sold out you need that doll for your Christmas party
That would be fabulous!
I completely agree with you on the lack of quality materials in the newer Coach bags. I think you’ll be proven right over time when we see how these bags wear over time in comparison to older Coach bags. Mind you I’m a former Coach employee and I loveeeee and collect Coach. Even the newer rogues I’m disappointed in the material selection. Not like the first several collections where leather was stitched over the side panels to bring the corners of the bag together. Now it’s all glazing?! Yikes. It’s sad bc customers would come into the store and I could tell who wasn’t well versed in leather quality. They only cared about the look and not the materials. In my opinion it all matters collectively. 🤷🏾♀️
I really wish I had jumped on the Rogue trend when they started making them because the first few seasons are such a higher quality than they are now. Such a shame.
Would Love to have Time Square Tabby 👍
Overall it is a cute bag! I would just have to work at getting over the center divider.
And so much of my coach was bought in 2022 and 2023. The pieces were more thought out and carefully crafted like my bandits are so luxurious. I’m with you
And the Idol bag too- that bag hasn't gotten enough love, they hardly push it out.
Unpopular opinion: the margaux bag is quite ugly
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I totally agree! I’m definitely in the minority on the Brooklyn bag. I purchased it right after the runway show in denim blue and actually retuned it. It just didn’t wow me and I felt the construction was lacking and the leather is really thin. Where the strap joined the body, it constantly “folded in”. I can only imagine what it’s going to look like after ppl hang all the silly charms on them 🙄
Nothing worse than getting excited about a new bag only to return it when it arrives! Yeah, the construction quality and material just isn't there for me. Haha the charms will definitely do some damage on the poor Brooklyn!
I looked at the Brooklyn and thought it was aesthetically gorgeous, I didn’t think it was bad quality but I also didn’t think it was amazing, but gorgeous it is. I was not a fan of the Times Square Tabby, I just don’t like how it looks but that’s subjective. I am however in love with and getting the Empire 40, just haven’t decided the color yet.
It really is a gorgeous bag! I just wish it had been made better. The colors are going quickly online for the Empire, I hope you were able to make a decision!
I really want the largest empire carryall size, but I loathe pre-distressed items. I'd rather it wear and tear naturally than having someone burnish it and wear it down before it even hits the sales floor. I don't even buy ripped jeans! And that microfiber lining is not good. ever since I bought my Birkin, I won't accept any bag that isn't fully lined in leather, especially for THAT price
I agree! Let ME do the distressing! haha
I love this collection and colors forever a coach fan
The colors are fabulous
Same I think they did a great job this fall even in ready to wear and shoes. They a lot of my cash this season.
Love this video. I agree with you about the row margeaux
Thank you!
Fall is also my favorite season 😊 I saw the empire in person and it’s just not my style. I think the Brooklyn is actually very nice. I will have to keep an eye on the interior that you mentioned. For what it is I think it’s a nice bag 🤎 I see your point about the tabby’s. I have various styles of tabby’s and I think I’m pretty happy with my current bags so I don’t plan on adding anymore for the time being.
I love my Tabby, so much! I don't think I'd ever want to add another to my collection either.
I’m not feeling the current Coach bags. I’ve been carrying vintage bags from the 90’s. The last bag I purchased was the pillow tabby back in 2021.
Such a shame too- I love Coach!
I'm so glad you spoke on this topic I've been eyeing the Empire bag but very reluctant to pull the trigger and I couldn't quite put my finger on why that is. You have described the words that I was lacking as to why I'd rather put my $1600 dollars towards my goal bag Metier!
I’m not paying $1,600 for coach…
Thank you, Andrea! I went in wanting to fall in love with the Empire, but there were too many things about it that I just couldn't get over. Such a shame too!
I too am very underwhelmed by the Brooklyn line. The quality is so NOT en par with the price point. I was rather taken aback when I felt how thin the leathers are, even for a drapey bag. Also, that silhouette is so big right now one can certainly find a better option at a more reasonable price. In fact, anyone looking for that shape as a trendy seasonal carry should definitely look elsewhere. Honestly it is so true what you say about vintage Bleecker leather. It really spoils you. I think I’ll be shopping my vintage closet this fall. The Empire leather is a bit better but… idk more and more when I see Coach’s newer bags they just make me think I’d rather buy another vintage bag!
I agree with everything you said! On point! And the Bleecker line was phenomenal- anything after that is a guaranteed disappointment haha!
Hey 👋 I was your 100 thumb 👍 Hehehe 🤭 now yes I HATE YOU FOR RAINING ON MY PARADE!!! 😂 🤪 Just joking 🙃 although I waited a few hours before I watched this because I knew you were going to pick on the two bags I liked 😂. But actually you were kind -ish. I may or may not have bought the Merlot /ruby in one of the first two bags you picked on 😂 it’s supposed to arrive tomorrow!! 🎉 we will see deliveries have been sooo slow over here. The bag you really were disappointed in I don’t like it anyway so I’m good 😂 although I wish your video came out like 3/4 days ago because I might have waited to get a different bag. Hmmm 🤔. But thanks for the informative view point, and now I’m better at retuning it doesn’t work. Not much but better 😂 🤦♀️. Thanks Caleb for the information and I totally get your frustration, you have been there from the beginning when Coach was superior but ….. for me a new comer some things in general I’m disappointed but something’s don’t bother me as much as it does someone who’s seen a bunch of history. So it’s all perspective I guess, all though I’m still so disappointed in coachtopia in principle. Thanks once again ttyl 👋 🛍️👛🚢🦆🙏
Hey Dee Dee!! 100 Winner!! Haha!! Don't hate me!! 😱 Safe Space! Haha! I'm excited to see what you got!! I'm super curious to see what it is! Haha, and I know what you mean about returning things lol! And don't even get me started on Coachtopia lol!
Caleb. Good review. There was a couple I thought was nice. But I don’t know about purchasing I see tabby’s everywhere. One thing on my bags I have to have a zipper close.
Thank you, Kris! And you made some good points!
The bandit it overlooked because of the tabby. Love both but bandit os so elegant
I agree! I think the Idol is in the same boat as far as going overlooked goes.
i saw on a japanese blog some peaks of coach original releases for fall 2024… they are releasing another version of the safari tote and hamilton hobo’s (?). the Hamilton style hobo had bedazzled jacquard.
Oooh! That would be cool to see!
The one bag reminds me of Coach’s answer to the Row’s Margaux.
Absolutely!
Materialinside and the length of the zipper is important to me. Zipper is too short if you waant to have it open like a tote.
BUT finally a big one with a strap! The totes always become one shoulder and they keep the measurment but enlarge them making you fuzz around finding stuff. Too deep and too high. My perfect tote has not yet been made.
Wipable inside is a must, too many good bags have been ruined because of the lining.
Maybe if I take the scissers and cut of the zipper on this? I am about to do it on a Kate Spade tote.
These are all really great points! It takes a lot to make the perfect tote!
A couple of months ago I bought a Coach Burough bag(bowling bag) in saddle. It is gloved tanned leather and leather lined. I paid $212. Last weekend I bought a Brooklyn 28 in dark stone for full price $295. I thought it was raw suede on the inside. When I got it home I saw different. It is bonded leather. A thin piece of leather bonded to a materal of some sort of backing. You are right it could peel and crumble just like my couch of the same material did. But that took a few years for that to happen and I just use my bags for a week at a time on my bag rotation. I like the bag for its lack of bling and it holds alot, unusual in the era of small bags. I am still glad I bought it. I live in California I don't see a lot of women carrying Tabbys. S. CA is full of over priced high end bags. Young women carry Chanel not Coach. But give me a good hobo any day. The price was right for what I got so I am happy
The Burough was such a unique bag! And that's good to hear that the Brooklyn 28 is small but mighty! I love a good hobo too!
The empire carryall is in their glove tanned leather, thats the same type as the legacy coach bags. I have a almost 10 year old cooper carryall in GT leather, no issues at all with the color. Its not burnished though. Those colors are a pass for me 😴
I liked some of the colors- the merlot and green were speaking to me!
Did you get a chance to see the suede quilted tabby 26? Curious to the quality of that suede.
Not yet! I'll have to go back and check it out!
I’ve been buying Coach now for awhile, but my last purchase was really disappointing. I bought a little handbag in metallic silver and within a month or two the handle was peeling off. This bag was not cheap. I know I could probably email CS and see what they could do. The fact of the matter is though, that shouldn’t happen when you have something for less than a month or two. I’ve been watching a lot of content discussing designer bags and all the shortcuts they’re taking while still charging very high prices. IDK, I kind of feel like I see the same thing every season and they want hundreds of dollars. It’s just sad. There’s a channel called My Perspective who breaks down different mid range priced bags and a lot of the brands kind of blow these big name companies out of the water. I’m with you though, tell me what kind of leather you’re using, stop cutting corners. I get it too, I don’t have to shop if I don’t want to pay the price. However I still want to love Coach, I want to get a luxurious product for the money I’m spending.
I was worried about the metallic silver collection. I'm sorry to hear that yours didn't hold up well. I hope Coach and other brands stop cutting corners- it's a dangerous game!
Great post. I feel very underwhelmed with Coach lately. I don’t know, maybe I’ve just outgrown them. I just don’t have a desire to buy the brand like I used to. It could change (I’ve had times where I just didn’t buy Coach for a while). For right now I feel like if I’m going to invest in a bag it will be something I really have to have - and not just Coach but all brands. I’m waiting to see if LV holiday animation gets me again (I say I’m done with that every year but always end up getting something)
Thank you! "Underwhelmed" is a great way to describe it. And I've been in the same boat where I'll go years without buying something from Coach, and years where I'm obsessed. I think they'll be relevant in my closet- I'll keep going back, but I hope they improve!
The dye is important. It must be important that it age well .
Exactly!
I agree with you I’m not loving these new bags. I think the cost cutting, not leather inside, and pricing of these bags are ridiculous! Tfs Caleb 😀
Thank you, Andrea! Yeah, too many corners cut for me to appreciate them, which is such a shame.
100% agree with questionable quality.
It's such a shame!
Thank you for the review. Is it just me or anybody else finds that piece of leather hanging on the flap to be too much on Tabby? that "elephant trunk" under C annoys me. I may get Times Square tabby and just alter it to lose the "trunk"😉🐘It would be so much nicer to show more of the beautiful quilting.
Hahaha! I can't unsee it now! 🫣
Hi Caleb I would see you with the Empire bag it suits you
Hey Jeanette!
Great review. i actually purchased the Empire 26 in Brown last week and have used it every day. Usually, i despise the inner dividers, but this one has a larger base, and i find it easier to use than my soft tabby in amazon green with the huge C on it.
I agree with you about the micro fiber inside. i would have preferred a leather interior. But i really enjoy this bag. It's easy to use and today i added a leopard twilly.
I tried on that Brooklyn Hobo 24, and it definitely felt flimsy, and the chain strap is too light and looks cheap.
The square quilted bag "time square"? It reminded me of a cassie 19-plus. im over the quilting, so i got my empire 26 instead and LOVE IT!
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Thank you!! That's good to hear that you're enjoying your Empire bag! And a leopard twilly is the perfect addition. Yeah, the Brooklyn I wanted to love, but just couldn't get into it. I hear a new Cassie is coming out in a mini size too! That might be fun to see!
@CalebSnell Sorry and the typos 😆
BROOKLYN:
My initial reaction was that the interior felt like cork board. After about a month of wear, the interior is softening. Absolutely no flaking or anything - the pouch I put in there would pick up the flakes if they were there (it hasn’t).
I honestly feel like the Brooklyn shouldn’t have a lining - it doesn’t feel like corners were cut. I also don’t feel like the leather on my 28 is particularly thin or anything- I have certainly seen thinner leather out there. Then again, the 39 being the same thickness may feel more unstructured than then 28, so maybe that is why so many people with the 39 keep making the statement. I am excited for the 28 to break-in and feel lived in. I buy as someone who intends to use and love my bag and not as someone who wants to collect and put a bag on a shelf, only using it occasionally, so maybe our approaches and what we are looking for is different.
Yesss to everything you said! No flaking at all in mine, I loove the worn in look! Natural grain leather is one of my favorite leathers! 🤗
I agree on the Brooklyn lining. It feels like cardboard with some kind of fuzzy material sprayed on. Not the quality suede linings of vintage Coach bags. Or, even the suede in Rogues. Definitely a cheap material. A deal breaker for me. Couldn’t get past it so I returned the bag.
I'm sorry to hear you were disappointed. But the lining is awful on the Brooklyn, like truly awful.