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What the Heck!?!?!?! That's just DUMB! Fuel Can that Can't Hold Fuel!
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Thank the government for this. They can't sell them as a fuel can because they don't have the special valve spout on them. Everyone uses them for fuel cans anyway.
Yeah, it's about the fail-safe mechanism that shuts off if you release it. As long as you're OK with not having that, you're good to go.
Absolutely correct thank the government it has to have spill proof design to be sold as a fuel can
This way they don’t have to use the worthless EPA spout. It’s a great sales feature.
You can't even buy them at all here in California. Still, I buy them out of state and use them for all my equipment.
I suspect it is due to the new EPA laws requiring the safety valves for pouring and minimizing fumes. You know the pain in the, , nozzles that don't work well for anyone!
I agree with the other commenters that opined this is "lawyer speak" to get around the EPA regulations regarding "non-spill" fuel spouts (which have caused me to spill more fuel than I ever did with cans with a simple hose). "We're from the government and we're here to help" is the scariest sentence in the English language.
I agree 100%. I RARELY spilled any fuel until these no-spill fuel spouts came along. Leave it to the government. Their initial intentions always end up being completely opposite of the real world results. Like the war on drugs, the Patriot Act, the Affordable Healthcare Act, ect.
Lawyers and government destroy everything they touch.
This is due to government. Can't sell them cause they don't have the safety valve. How that get around it is saying not for fuels!!
Between lawyers and the government, nothing makes sense anymore.
You’ve been California’d !!! Everyone else still uses them for fuel but they are called “utility jugs” thanks AQMD and EPA !
Want to get really frustrated? Try to actually pour fuel out of a modem gas can. 😂
Right! In all of my years of pouring fuel out of a gas can, I’ve never had any fuel spill until the first time I used a can with the government’s “no spill” dispenser on it! They are totally ridiculous and do just the opposite of what they are designed to be for. Liberalism will always generate the exact opposite of its stated intent.
I use the VP Racing cans all the time for diesel and gas, and they work well. I think it has to do with some BS government regulations which make the gas cans (like the one you showed on the right) terrible to use. Props to VP for skirting stupid governmental regulations by posting a disclaimer that nobody reads or pays attention to.
That crap started with CARB in California. Ignore the label and do what the rest of us do and fill it with gas.
It’s quite simple really, the vp racing jug has an easy to use vent and spout that aren’t sealed and might let some fuel vapors or gas accidentally leak out. While the other style, that’s approved by the epa and carb for fuel use and is a sealed container is guaranteed to spill more fuel and still blow the fuel vapor everywhere when you try to start pouring it.
Love the VP cans for GASOLINE and/or DIESEL. They are tough as nails and way better than the “spill proof” EPA cans. You can actually squeeze 6 gals in them too.
Cause it’s not “spill proof” that’s why. It’s called governmental overreach
If it looks like, smells like a fuel tank , probably is a fuel tank. But it is called a “Seed Carrier” you know the government intervened at some point
Bought one of those 'safety valve' cans a while back not realizing it was not like my older fuel can. Tried to use it to fill the gas tank in a car. Those are not designed as an emergency means of filling the cars gas tank - unless you have a gas fill opening that looks up instead of sideways. I believe I saw somewhere that we can thank California for ruining gas cans (I researched it and saw something that indicated the requirement started in California). The comments below makes sense with the regulations in mind.
It's government, as others have said. Fuels cans have to be sealed and with a "no-spill" approved nozzle.
What's funny is I have probably spilled and wasted more fuel using the government approved designs than I do my VP fuel cans. This is what happens when government thinks it knows better.
We have a dozen or so VP Jugs, some of them are probably 15-20 years old. They are amazing, the best fuel jugs ever made. 🐾🐾
I bet the label says it’s a federal crime to put fuel in that container. Think about that.
It’s for government purpose. I have the VP and have used them for years. But it’s the same reason why the VP high flow hose isn’t sold with it but it conveniently screws into the top where the red plug is on the vp “gas jug”. About like saying a light bar is for “off road use only”
I just bought one on the 21st of April, my dad ordered the spout/nozzle for it, can't wait to use it for our subcompact tractor 😊
Such an intelligent man whose opinion I hold in high regard and incapable of reading between the lines. GOTTA be an engineer 😂
Kd0axs is correct. They can’t sell it as a fuel tank because of safety spout regulations. The EPA does not want you to pull off the caps of your mower and gas tank and pour it in at a fast rate because you will sooner or later spill and not clean it up, they surmise.
There are two more issues: government-approved cans also have some kind of anti-fire baffle, and are supposed to control fumes better.
Of course I use a VP Racing can, instead.
The sipll part actually happens more with the new garbage safety spouts.
I believe that is mostly for California's sake. Just put gasoline in it and throw the tag away...
Just be glad you can still get that in Texas. When I search on it in California Amazon tells me "This item cannot be shipped to your selected delivery location. Please choose a different delivery location."
I have to buy something that I can't even get the fuel to come out of if I want it in CA.
Like I said, just fuel and keep going.
Great rant though... All the best,
Pat
Blame California for pretty much everything wrong in the country.
After viewing this an ad popped up on social media from Walmart advertising this jug from VP.
Below is how it is listed:
The VP Racing Fuels Motorsport 5 Gallon Square Plastic Utility Jug in Red (4 Pack) is the ultimate fuel storage and handling solution for motorsport enthusiasts. Its durable construction, generous capacity, square design for stability, and easy handling features make it an essential addition to your motorsport gear. With this 4-pack, you'll have everything you need to keep your engines running at peak performance during your motorsport adventures.
The VP Racing Fuels Motorsport 5 Gallon Square Plastic
Man there is thousands of these things at every dirtbike race across the country, they legally cant sell it as a fuel jug unless it has the stupid "spill proof" system the actual gas cans have. You also need to buy the hose spout kit for the VP jugs. These will last 20 years
VP fuel/fluid cans are great - just pop out top plug and put in hose for dumping. The card that comes with is a CA/EPA thing - they required a vapor capture system to be certified for fuel. Any "fuel" can you buy in Calif. has a locking system and they suck and they spill! The VP is not a legal fuel can in Calif. - yet is has far less spills and is just a better way to carry and dispense fuel. Sometime the regulations lead to designs that simply don't work and cause more spills and fumes than the old school cans like VP - that just work. You will see those disclaimers on fuel bags as well.
Buccee’s sells these style cans too. I’ve bought a few from there. I dont use regular gas cans anymore because like others say, they spill more than they pour into the equipment you are fueling.
I thought everyone knew about this. Same issue with NATO/"Jerry cans".
Apparently Mr. Know it all didn’t.
Like every one else has already stated, it's because of the spout. They can't legally sell it as a fuel can because it doesn't have the safety spout on it. I picked up a 5 gallon can like that but with the approved spout and it's almost impossible to put fuel in anything.
I have 5 for hurricane fuel emergencies. The make perfectly ok fuel storage cans. It like a previous post stated. It doesn't contain the regulated valve the epa mandates. VP can't sell them as fuel cans. That doesn't stop the user from using them for the design purpose.
I have 6 of the red jugs from Buc-ees. I use them while driving Rhode Island to Nashville, and Nashville to Rhode Island around 5 times a year. As you know fuel prices are high. On the route I take I’ve seen regular gas as high as $4.50 a gallon. My truck has a 36gallon fuel tank. I fill my tank at the Buc-ees in Crossville, TN. @ around $2.90 a gallon, and I fill the 6 jugs. That gives me enough fuel for the entire trip so I can avoid the high fuel prices. I just pull into a rest area and fuel. Incidentally I purchased a small liquid transfer pump from harbor freight it uses 2 d batteries, and a small folding stool I put the jug on the stool and use the pump to transfer the fuel so I don’t have to hold the jug. The pump only reaches 4 gallons but I’m sure you’ll agree having to lift that last gallon and dump it manually is nothing.
But I’ve had the jugs for just over 2 years and I have had zero issues with them.
From what I read, it says that so it will still be compliant in California as a standard "jug". A California gas can is required to have a spout built on to the can.
Hey JD the jug you really like can be purchased at Buc-ees for $26. They also sell a really cool mounting system for it on the next shelf for $30.
And it comes WITH the nozzle too!! I also buy them at Buc-ees !
I have the same cans (VP Racing) and have only used them (four of them) for transporting fuel to the race track. Had them for 8 years plus. Absolutely no issues. Can't wait to hear what VP has to say
I got the same things from rural King to store fuel in been in there since last year for hurricane season no leaks work great need to go pick up a few more.
I'm still using a Gott fuel can from back in the 90's so I remain blissfully unaware firsthand of all the problems with new ones.
JD, I have a great idea on that VP 5.5 gallon jug. You can carry 5.5 gallons of coffee in that since no petroleum products are allowed. I’m sure you’d be happier than an itchy pig up against a picket fence with all that ☕️☕️☕️☕️☕️☕️☕️☕️☕️☕️☕️☕️☕️☕️☕️☕️☕️☕️
Coffee for days!!!
👍😃☕️
BRILLIANT IDEA 👍
i have a vp racing fuel can. because of EPA regs. is is deemed illegal to transport fuel. the approved ones work alright to fuel lawn mowers but i spill over a quart trying to put fuel in a truck. i don’t think the regulation was throughly thought threw. I use it for diesel fuel and it works fine
I have six of them that I bought 20 years ago when I was running jet skis pretty heavily. Now days I use two for gas, two for diesel, one for kerosene, and one for used oil.
I have several and have used them for gas for my mower, atv's, etc. Never had any issues. I have the spouts which thread into the small opening where the red plug is.
I’ve got 4 of the VP gas can. Been using them for years for gas. You’re good to go.
I thought the same thing when I bought my vp jug, it works great as a fuel can, had it for 7 years now, works great, no issues
I've uses them for years. I got the clear ones and they work great for all types of fuel.
It’s like selling car components as “for off-road use only”. Government can’t let us live.
CYA for EPA!
I purchased 8 red jugs and 2 yellow from Amazon a couple years ago, they didn't have those tags on them when I purchased. All 10 jugs stay full of gas and diesel most of the time to be prepared for storms, no regrets buying those VP jugs.
Thank you government!
I have 12 or more of the VP fuel cans, none of the have ever came with that tag.
They're 100% meant for fuel. I have several of clear/white ones I use for 110 race fuel. Used to keep methanol in them when I was doing meth injection. Everyone at MX and race tracks use them. Throw the label away and send it.
It’s a lawyerism just to” CYA”
Everyone knows you can't call something a fuel can anymore without it having the shutoff valve...
I have 6 of them and use them for fuel all the time. Only one of them leaks (dribbles) when I dump the fuel. There is a tiny split at the seam where the cap meets the can. It actually might not even be a split. It may just need a little shaving to remove some excess flashing from the mold. Whenever I get to that can I want to look at it closer, but I am usually too busy, and then I forget about it until next time.
Surprised you didn't know about those cans. We still use them for fuel. Take the center cap out and you can attach a hose.
My VP cans came with those tags 5 years ago, been using them for fuel everyday without issue.
I’ve had two of them for over a year now and they work great. I think Buc’ees also has a similar jug they sell for less $
Yeah that’s just epa crap… fill it up… I have many of them… and they actually can hold 6 gallons… 👍🏻
What is stamped on the bottom as for who made the container?
That's the work of a brilliant legal team. A lot of times you can't buy a fuel container in California. But being labeled as non-fuel they can sell it to California. Well played VP.
been using there jugs since the 80's for our motorcycles and go carts now for boats and generators great product only thing I ever replaced was the vent caps there have been other companies that try to copy there jugs, tIve bought they leaked and I tossed them
It's just because of the EPA. They come with a regular hose rather than the stupid pour spout things on the cans that are approved for fuel. I have a couple like that and use them for gasoline. They work great. One of the best things about them is how quickly they will dispense fuel. If you have a larger tanj with a larger opening, you can empty one of those VP cans MUCH faster than any of the EPA approved ones
You do need to remove the internal filter from No-Spill, and others, to make them work well. A pair of 8" utility pliers expanded inside, with a twist, takes them right out.
Use at your own risk. There. I fixed the label!
(Just like your RV warranty) edited.
It’s quite laughable that VP Racing Fuel sells a can for wildlife feed.
I totally agree with your take on this.
A lot of Jetski people either use sureflow or the JP racing style jugs to carry on their rear racks.
After you have this mystery figured out, go ahead and buy a "solvent trap" that screws onto the end of a rifle barrel.
Diving into Amazon product descriptions is even more difficult since AI became involved.
Mine is a 2 handle super Jug from speedway motors , works really well in 6 different colors.
OMG that’s great!!! Need to vent deer corn!!!
Motorsports style gas can are always made out of a heavier material. Generally speaking, the only businesses that sell them are powersports dealers and vendors, since, for the most part, off highway motorcycle riders and PWC owners are who mostly use them.
JD, The Fed's, EPA rules and lawyers have negated practical can designs. I'm curious Why you don't use your "SureCan". I love mine for all fuels and all applications.
That’s for vp racing, so if you transport gas or put gas in it and something happens (fire, explosion) they can’t be held accountable (sued)!
Weird, it does say right in the description on Amazon "should not be used as portable fuel container".
home depot has fire spray foam that not supposed to be used as fire block?
Look up blitz gas cans. This has to do with flame arrestor. People would pour gas on a bonfire, catch the can on fire, and would get injured when the can exploded.
You really don't get it !!???? It don't have the stupid safety value on it. It legally can't be sold as a gas can in the U.S. !!!! So they sale it as a utility jug !!!! It's funny you said it was the dumbest thing you've ever heard of ! Lol!
I have two that I keep off road diesel in for my tractor. They have worked well for two years.
Congratulations, you stumbled across the (wording loop hole). I feel your frustrations my brother.
I think is of California registration. I grew up racing motocross and riding offroad. These are extremely common. I beleive this is to be able to sell in California. Thats what we were told at the dealership when they started putting up signs " not for fuel". Some people were even ticketed for using them for fuel. Eventually they stopped ticketing. I've owned several over the years. I still have one that I've owned since 2006. It sat for about 10 years, just started using it again now that we live full-time in a toy hauler. Only issue I ever had was the vent cap cracked, and the rubber hose dry rotted. still use it to haul fuel every day , never had to replace one due to wear or failure
I use vp racing jugs and have for a good 10+ years it seems.. now I can't speak on behalf of amazon and its so called products found online on places like Amazon, but I got mine from local motorcycle and dyno tuning shops that sell vp racing fuels and products such as the fuel jugs and I don't see or have heard of not putting gasoline in them because that's what they were crated for because you have to have a container to buy the fuel by the gallon from the local shops because most carry different race blends which is a big factor when it comes to the cost per gallon so the jugs were created for us customers to buy our certain blend like I run vp110 or vp118 octanes in my 2 stroke dirtbikes with ther racing big bore & stroker kits in them cuz that's what they designed and tuned to run off of along with some classic 2 stroke oil I love the smell of the classic 2 stroke oils like ex: Bel-Ray
Like others have said it’s because of the “wonderful” EPA.
If you want to save a little money Rural King sells a 5 gallon jug that is very similar to this for around $20ish. They come in all different colors too. I have four of them. Use them for my race car and keep methanol in them. I’ve had them for four years. No issues. They also said “not for fuel” lol.
Tractor Supply sells pretty good EPA compliant gas cans if you want something that is compliant. They are pretty expensive in my opinion for a plastic fuel can but they work great and are very easy to use. They come in 2.5 and 5 gallon versions. I got a few of those too and have had them for a few years. They have held up good.
The LC2 jugs are far superior to the vp jugs. It’s to easy to spill out of the vents on the vp jug.
Yep. If it was labeled as a fuel can, it would have to get a valve like your can on the right. Government overreach.
I hate those new spouts. Lots of times I just pour from the can using funnel.
Not to sound uninformed, but my kid has competed in Motocross for years. We probably have 25 VP “fuel holders” and the only issue with the “VP fuel holder”(gas can) is the add on tubing that is usually purchased with these gas cans. Within a short period of time, the tube, filter, cap becomes brittle. Ok, one more small complaint, they get heavy with very expensive race fuel, five gallons is over one hundred dollars. Most MX people just buy the metal cans from VP. By the way, we only buy clear fuel containers. Yes they stain but better than not seeing how much is left. I appreciate your video’s.
Anytime someone tells me something they claim has to be true because some government agency said so, i remind them how much they screwed up fuel containers.
Fyi i use vp cans and others with no issues, the warning is simply down to goverment overregulation, the cans are generally safer than the officially classed "Fuel Can".
That’s a lawyer tag. Throw the tag away and go fill the can with gas.
Sometimes its best not to ask. 😂
As many have already said, much better for not dumping fuel everywhere when using a California compliant fuel jug.
I have an old Blitz can with a non government rated nozzle. I don’t spill a drop except if I accidentally over fill my lawn mower tank
Look for the sunoco brand from performance bodies. Same jug as the terra jug
Surecan 5 gallon Type II. Much better IMO to use than the VP style container. Super easy to fill and control fuel delivery.
Just take the cap off of your jug and use a large steel funnel to fill up the mowers .
I think they are using the disclaimer to cover their a**. Have you considered a bulk tank for your gas needs? I know AM-Tank makes 55 gallon plastic tanks for gas. I have the Vevor version for off road diesel. I hate 5 gallon cans since I use a lot of off road diesel in the excavator. The government adding these antispill nozzles made the modern gas can absolutely terrible. The aftermarket pour spouts are just meh.
All motorsports use VP for reason, better construction and fast smooth pour
You need to read between the lines. It is a California compliance thing. Of course it holds gas. I have 4 of them and use it as such.
This is a click bait video. You know exactly why they have that "not for gasoline" warning on it.
It’s because it’s vented. Blitz got sued into oblivion and it was because of the vents and gas vapor leaking.
I’m thinking about getting a metal jerry can
I’m in the Motorsports business and these are intended for racing gas and have been for years and years. This is all give me t related due to the lack of the spout.
They are not all listed as Fuel anything. They are not a portable fuel container as described by ASTM, EPA, ARB and other official agencies. Just checked the amazon listing and it doesn't say fuel anywhere. It may be in the amazon "gas can" category, but that is it. The history blurb is about VP fuels, not the jug.
Full send. It’ll hold six gallons. Legal jargon because of the EPA.
I apparently never read the label oops. I'm on my 3rd season with the VP fuel can without issue
The only logical/illogical scenario I could think of is, maybe the seals aren't compatible with fuels.