"From All Sides" -1862 Battle of Fredericksburg - Unaired Civil War TV Special
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- Опубликовано: 26 авг 2024
- Unaired, but completed TV Pilot / Series Proposal about the December 1862 Battle of Fredericksburg, Virginia pitting Robert E. Lee against Union General Ambrose E. Burnside. With nearly 200,000 combatants-the greatest number of any Civil War engagement-Fredericksburg was one of the largest and deadliest battles of the Civil War. It featured the first opposed river crossing in American military history as well as the Civil War’s first instance of urban combat.
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Why do so many American-made historical documentaries assume that during the commercial breaks the viewers will have forgotten everything that has been shown before, and waste so much time on summaries?
Because due to television & then the Internet, most modern people (Americans are not alone in this) don't have a real attention span. A serious ability to focus & remember is usually cultivated by reading, not by watching TV or pointing & clicking.
you already answered your own question....americans
Probably to give the people just tuning in a recap.
Interesting question....to answer your question... look who is living in the white house...... that should tell you that we have more than our share of idiots!
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Currently living in Fredericksburg, it's awesome to personally know all the areas.
I visited in February…great town with lots to do. The battlefield is small but fascinating.
Amazing this was never turned into a series. This is a remarkable look at a remarkable battle that would have an effect on everything after.
They probably didn't pick it up because it made the Union look like the crazed incompetent aggressive invaders that they were/are.
I know right! The show was pretty good. Bummer the channel didn’t pick it up, as I’ll take this any day over The Pickers, Pawn Stars and other god awful programs flooding History Channel nowadays
God's and General's is a movie that is brilliant for the battle of Frederiksberg and the stars are brilliant too in this movie.
"It is well that war is so terrible. We should grow too fond of it." (Gen. Lee)
Being an engineer is a thankless job. 'First ones in, last ones out' was our unofficial motto. However armor and infantry units always gave us the utmost respect saying "You guys clear the way for us." While expected to clear a minefield under enemy fire is bad, I couldn't imagine being an engineer at Fredericksburg trying to build a pontoon bridge under sniper fire. Essayons!
One of the thankless jobs we are tasked to perform in making an Army move . Everything they did back then was insane ! Marching into 54 caliber musket fire and grape shot ? I was in Air Defense most of my 10 years Army . I know what they went through going up Maria's Heights .As a Stinger Crew member , in the 90's , we had to stay locked on a target with the stinger until it reached target , as Ivan's buddies are throwing everything they have at the end of my stingers smoke trail , ME ! Now they have fire and forget stingers . Our life expectancy on the battle field was 7- 12 seconds ( please look it up ) . Engineers ? Try building that garage with everyone trying to kill you then clear that broken glass on the kitchen floor with bare feet ? Engineers , Medics and Cooks , life blood of the Army !
@@lonnietoth5765 My engineer training cadre didn't mince any words telling us paratroopers had a longer life expectancy than us in combat. They told us engineers were targeted first because the enemy knows they there to breach defenses/cover a retreat with obstacles.
12B OSUT May-August 2000 Ft. 'Lost In The Woods'.
I just drove past Virginia and saw Fredericksburg and it’s amazing what I see now including the river to what the land and area looked like before.
Its one of the most ruined battlefields of the war. The development around it is a disgrace.
@@jwhiskey242 well some of those buildings have the original structure of some of the buildings back then.
One of my ancestors was Private John C. Edge of the 13th South Carolina Infantry, Company B, of Maxcy Gregg's brigade. Glad to see Gregg depicted here as well as in "Gods in Generals."
i seriously hate that movie i seriously hated it even jeff shaara hated it even maxwell himself didnt like due to him only making one good civil war film and that was gettysburg gods and generals bombed at the box office plus copperhead was also another disaster civil war film he made i hope maxwell never makes another civil war ever again due to him being a burnside and hooker duality but instead of him being a generals hes a failed film maker he never watches true art like star wars and star trek and people say star wars is just fiction but they are battle tactics within the old eu and new eu
Thank you. Always wonder what one of my Great Grandfather's went thru at Fredericksburg. He was drafted into the Confederacy. Wounded and captured by the Union Army. Passed away in a Union hospital 1863.
Pvt. T. E. Chambell.
RIP
Got to go get that ice cream from the refrigerator, during the commercial break. Let me know if I missed anything (lol).
@@ArmenianBishopRather long breaks, weren't they?
Well...I guess they gave ya enough time to go to the bathroom, and at least urinate!
My great grand uncle, Augustus Parks Ellison (1842-1912) of the 16th Georgia Infantry Regiment, sustained a wound that necessitated removal of his left arm near the shoulder joint. Ellison’s cave in Walker county, Georgia was named for him.
Absolutely incredible. It's hard to believe that was only 98 years before I was born. My grandmother told me stories about her grandfather and his brother fighting on opposite sides. And they lived in the same area I lived in the last 40 years on Indian Creek in Elkview West Virginia. It all seems so ridiculously stupid but I guess they didn't have any idea how brutal war was. You have to wonder what they were thinking. But as in any war, it's the young men and now women that do the fighting and the higher ups that make the decisions to send them to their fate.
God bless Robert E. Lee and all men, who fought within the CSA !
An interesting side note...The "Irish Brigade" that the series names as coming from multiple States, was also made up of "conscript Irish Immigrants" that were either seized or bribed or lied to as they landed in Ellis Island and immediately thrown into the Army. I have Irish heritage and yes, that was common policy in NY.
They were offered a bonus, nobody was taken against their will and surely they had all heard of the civil war before they got on the boat and had plenty of time to think about it, Irish people continue to disproportionately be in the military to this day
The Irish were used as cannon fodder by both sides .
@@charlesohear ''Perhaps they not fully understand what they were been sucked into between- 1860 - 1865
I have Scottish and Irish heritage, about 70% with my Welch per DNA test. I'm gonna have to dig into my heritage and see if I had any ancestors that fought.
The Irish Brigade were slaughtered by the Irish Brigade from the South
this site is really,really good ..perfectly put over, thank you
I am 'glad' LH FW posted this again. This needs to be viewed again and again. And I wonder why this production was not aired. I can only assume that this makes Lincoln look bad - as indeed he should.
Both side's of the war had so many losses. I had two great great, great grandpas serve, one a confederate, who was given the medal of honor posthumously in 1994, and is in an east Tennessee museum, james keelan, strawberry plaines Tennessee bridge that he almost died fighting by himself. He can be googled. My other grandpa was killed on the sultana after being let out of the pow camp. God bless, and may we stay united, because they want us to kill each other. God bless.
Amen
I did not know that the U.S. government issued the M.O.H. to Confederate rebels.
Well said on that
A Confederate soldier given the medal of honor???? I gotta Google that!
No way he got the MoH
Edit: He got awarded the confederate medal of honor which was created by the sons of confederate veterans in 1977. An invented medal by a group of neo confederates is not the same as the MoH
General Halleck was the blame for the failure at Fredrickburg, he was the General In Chief. He didn't send out the pantoon boats that Burnside requested, day or days before. They were late getting to Fredrickburg because of Halleck incompetence, and laziness, and the weather didn't help either or the roads.
Wagons got stuck in the snowy mud roads and it took a long painful process to get them there. Halleck was arogant, vane, sneaky little worm. Lincoln did get a Union victory in late winter 1862, the Battle of Stone River in Tennessee. You should do All Sides video of Stone River.
lincoln didnt like helleck and helleck didnt even like grant and grant won two victorys in 1863 lee only had one victory in 1863 and that was chancellorsville then lee got his greatest defeat at gettysburg
@@thereturnofdarthcaedus Halleck was arogant and vane, he couldn't lead a horse too water, Grant had lot more victories in his career then Lee.
@@jamesrichardson3322 why do people in the south still claim lee could have won the battle of gettysburg some of his own men at the battle of gettysburg didnt even like him yes his own men who fought under him didnt even like him
@@thereturnofdarthcaedus Because the Lost Causers/ Neo Confederates are very delusional think they won Gettysburg. History speaks for itself who really won Gettysburg, we know George Mead & The Army of Potomac won. Next those idiots will claim they won Vicksburg 😆😂. Longstreet and Hood disagree with the battle plan of the third day, can't remember at this moment who disagreed with Lee with the whole Gettysburg battle plan
@@thereturnofdarthcaedus General Pickett didn't care for him.
I can actually think of two acts of compassion during that Battle, and both of them were from the Confederates themselves. The Irish Brigade that fought for the Confederacy, forced to fight against their own Irish Brethren, that were Union, were moved to the point of tears and admiration for the Irish, that had sided with the Union. The Confederate Irish still loved, and cared about, their own Irish Countrymen, that were fighting for the Union, even though the Confederate Irish still had to fight against them.
The other instance that I bring to mind is, of course, that Brave Young Soldier from South Carolina, Pvt. Richard Kirkland. Taking Water out to the wounded Union Troops like that, at the risk of his own life, earned the respect and admiration of both the Confederates, and the Union!
History has, ever since, dubbed him, and known him, as The Angel of St. Maryes Heights!
However, The Union Troops, that pillaged the Good People's Houses of Fredericksburg, should be remembered in infamy and shame!
And many people still look at Troops like these, as the "Good Guys"?!?
Really?!?!?!?
Not in my opinion!!! Anybody that treats people badly, deserves to be punished!
Severely!!!!!
I’m in Fredericksburg on business today. Going to def try and check out the battlefield
Crazy to think about the place i live after watching this video.
Burnside's sideburns were burning hot! 🔥
That's why they are called "sideburns"
@@dimitriwolfs9370 burnside was not fit to command a army neither hooker
Just like he burned so many young men's lives.
He was the complete opposite of Gen. McClellan, that's for sure! One General wanted to advance with the most extreme caution, at least for the most part...and the other one wanted to shove Troops into Battle, where even Angels would fear to tread! Gen. Burnside was, indeed, inexperienced, and yet very eager to make a good impression on President Lincoln... only to have the whole thing backfired spectacularily!!!
One of my 3rd great grandfathers was wounded at Fredericksburg on December 13th, 1862. Prior to this he also served at Antietam and Bull Run before that. He lost his right arm and served as a enrollment officer after his hospital stay and served out the rest of the war, recruiting new recruits.
Excellent documentary! So impressed! Thank you!
This is the same narrator that does the WWII Battlefield 360 Pacific series. I really like his work.
At the 11:00 mark that graphic is NOT a Napoleon cannon! It looks more like a 3" Ordinance Rifle with the tapered barrel. The Napoleon has a flared muzzle and is Bronze, not painted black like the graphic shows. Small detail, but important for knowledgeable Civil War historians and enthusiasts.
There were Napoleon's that were cast from iron, it's not "painted" black, it's the metal that they use. The Napoleon's you are talking about were cast from bronze while there were many that were cast from iron, you "knowledgeable civil war historian and enthusiast"
Lionheart FilmWorks are the best.
Well done bravo!!!
Excellent
As a Boomer not subjected to the "rewrite of history" and fortunately received some education from outside of the USA, I can only comment how sad it was that Our Men and Boys were slaughtered on both sides by the whims of politicians. those boys from the South or North were All Americans! Most had no idea of the politics, only believing the rhetoric from their "leaders" through what at the time was their "mainstream media" fueled by the political rhetoric. For those subjected to "public school education" for the last 50 years....the future of slavery had little impact on the men in the Confederate Army....what they were taught was the "tyranny of the North" was strangling their farms through tariffs imposed, and yes, added to that was being told that Yankees dictated whether They could or could not have slaves. The Northern rhetoric was that the Southerns "were rebelling against the Union. Read the memoirs of the Confederate and Northern Military Leaders....it is rare if ever that the "slavery issue" is even mentioned. Wake Up America! Our so called Leaders still send our sons to be killed for political reasons.
Take all of the politics out of it, and the Southern men and boys were simply defending their homes. When one was questioned after being captured he summed it up in 4 words.
Why are you fighting this war?
Because you're down here.
That was the vast majority of the army.
War is to make money now. The cream of the crop of young people are killed and keeps the population down.
Says that you weren't subject to the rewrite of history but spews Confederate BS... Please don't justify the actions of these white supremacists.... Thier constitution clearly says that they are doing this to preserve slavery. This is in thier own words, please educate yourself instead of spreading Confederate disinformation.
If it wasn't for the pontoon bridges being so delayed and Franklin's ineptitude, Fredericksburg very likely would've been a Union Victory.
Possibly, they still had to march uphill.
Not with the leadership of the yanks in this battle!
If my aunt had balls she would be my uncle.
I would not call Burnside "inexperienced." He led a brigade at 1st Bull Run, commanded the force that attacked the South Carolina coast, and was in command of the 9th Corps at Antietam.
yeah u was wondering why they said that. he wasn't a terrible commander. he wasn't particularly a good one either. just middle of the road
Ambrose E. Burnside was certainly not 'inexperienced': for the Union it would have been very much better had he never had the opportunity for any experience at all. At Sharpsburg he insisted on large sections of his command crossing a narrow bridge on foot in single file while highlighted against the horizon by the direction of the sun; the result was that they were exposed like targets in a fairground shooting gallery to Confederate marksmen: the Antietam Creek spanned by the bridge was, at that time, only thigh-deep! The bridge is still known with irony [and complete contempt for his incompetence] as "Burnside's Bridge'. The 'brilliance' of his command at Fredericksburg is legendary and illustrated here! - and his very last "Hurrah" was his 'inspired' scheme to dig a 'mine' under Confederate trenches at Petersburg, stuff it full of explosives and then detonate it, thus creating a crater fifty feet deep into which an entire regiment of Union troops would then charge. They did! - but unfortunately for them Burnside had neglected to consider how they could get out of a fifty-foot-deep hole, with the result that they were "like fish in a [dry] barrel" and suffered the same fate. With all due respect to Burnside, it would seem that he had realised the flaws in his three-month scheme in advance of its detonation, because at the time of the explosion he was reported to have absented himself without authority, and was subsequently discovered cowering 'dead drunk' in a shell hole half a mile away.
Hence the well-honored and enduring toast drunk since at least Sharpsburg by the Confederacy: "May God save and protect General Burnside, and long preserve him to continue to command the Union army!"
@@robertwhittaker5477 burnside failed not just at fredericksburg but also the battle of the creater
@@thereturnofdarthcaedus Burnside had at least one virtue, in that he was quite prepared to be entirely honest and open about his limited military capabilities. When appointed to command of the Union Armies in the months before the Battle of Fredericksburg he stated, face to face to Mr. Lincoln, that he regarded himself as "unsuited to high command". Mr. Lincoln completely ignored his protestations and appointed him anyway, - so responsibility for the carnage in the Union army at Fredericksburg does not rest with Burnside alone!
@@robertwhittaker5477 well look at what happened after fredericksburg look what happened to him again at the battle of the creater at the battle of the creater that was his last time taking command and after that he stopped being in the union
God Bless Robert E. Lee
A true Virginia hero.
Amen brother
I'd give anything for a complete season about this. Battle of Wilson's Creek, Chickamauga, Gettysburg, Vicksburg, Glorieta Pass, Petersburg, and Atlanta, that would be so amazing. They always cancel the cool shows then renew garbage like Ancient Aliens and Pawn Star's for the hundredth season.
Burnside was not overcompensating. He was completely freaking paranoid because he was not fit for the job.
Final comment....The West Point Fighting tactics were absurd. We the People won independence with "non conventional" tactics during the Revolution....All of the Union Commanders and some of the Confederate Commanders were still fighting the "last War" while many of the Confederate Commanders were much more unconventional and their troops were mostly country boys who were not only better marksman but skilled at concealment and cover. Logistics in the end doomed the South.
logistics, industry and mainly manpower.
My great great great uncle Captain Wesley Mellard Co H 13th Mississippi Infantry Barksdales brigade CSA fought at Fredericksburg I also had a great great great grandfather Corporal Richard Pierce Co B 27th North Carolina Infantry who helped defend Maryes Heights
Approximately at 35 minutes narrator mentions a Union victory was still possible. I’m not sure, but my opinion is the modern narrator was trying to show a closer battle than the facts reflected. To what end, I don’t know.
Cause some of us have a short attention span and cant remember everything when your attention is enthralled with the video🙂
I see Alonzo Cushing K.I.A. 07/03/1863, in frame 9:31
The fact that houses stand on the killing field sickens me. Why would anyone want that.
Waterboy is one of the true heroes of the war.
Lee aparrently did not learn the lesson well enough after watching the almost complete futility of charging prepared works there, Antietam and previously even rudimentary works at Malvern Hill without overwhelming odds and at least without stacked up calvary and infantry reserves with optimally strategic enfading artilary since he risked it at Gettysburg .
20:13 - l'audace, l'audace, toujours l'audace! Attack, attack, always attack.
Somebody should invent a time machine. Go back in time and give the confederate army modern day weapons…could you imagine, the confederates using AR-15’s, land mines, Artillery shells and tanks😂😂
'Guns of the South' by Harry Turtledove.
Yeah the South might have enslaved fellow human beings for another 50 years.
Most likely not. Possibly. But I don’t think it would have happened. That wasn’t what I meant by it…. No way to ever know.
Serìamos invencibles👊🐄❤
Shaundever77 seriamos invencibles
You can't win a battle when your enemy has the high ground to send your men over and over again would be suicide and it was
so if Lee sees the destructive power of Longstreet's corps behind the wall firing upon advancing lines of enemy troops in the open, does he commit the very same action in reverse on the third day at Gettysburg?
George Mead is the ultimate unsung hero of the entire civil war. Grant gets all the credit and need is all but forgotten. Tragedy.
Burnside went on to be governor of Rhode Island. Hard to believe but yeah.
All right man group up so when they hit us with the artillery it will take us all out. What were they thinking?
And people criticize Pickets charge,,,
How come the confederates artillery didn't target the pantoum bridges?
Would have could have should have never wins the day the Confederates kick some ass that day as they did in a lot of Civil War battles that historians don't want you to hear about
They lost terribly. They won some battles and lost the war, got thier teeth kicked in.
Look at the Nazis they won battles at first and also got thier teeth kicked in. It really doesn't matter that you won some battles when you can't win a war.
Ask Hannibal how that went for him.
Well the south and north have not forgotten. But this was the growing of a nation. Taxes were tje main reason for the war. But anyone who made it to america was extremely blessed. Think about it. No other nation has so many people trying to get in. We are still growing and changing.
Slavery was the main reason for the war.
Burnside was'nt inexperienced! He fought greatly as a general on the Union side from the beginning. Why do you think they made him the general of the whole army of the Potomac? The problem was he did'nt get his pontoons when he needed them. That's not his fault but someone in Washington. He even managed to surprise Lee with his tactical moves! This documentary is trying to give him all the blame. Very, very wrong to do so.
11:45 Is nobody going to talk about this war crime?
21:07 The Springfield 1842 Was a Smooth-Bore Musket...
Union should have put general thomas in charge and said do what you do best. Thomas gets overpassed by history because he was a virginian that fought for the union. Despised by rebels and untrusted by many yanks. Even Longstreet the confederates best defensive man said thomas was the best defender. Thomas didnt have no quit in him. If lincoln would have put him in total command and said trick them into attacking us and it would have been so
Wasn't this put up before
Ever think about how the USA might be today if the South had defeated the Federal Government?
Fredericksburg was one of the worst defeats the Union had
FREDRICKSBURG!
1/17th infantry motto.
General Sideburns!
Geez with today's technology, you'd think production could've done much better job of editing this program!
Lincoln furious? He was a very bright and thoughtful man. I have never read any accounts of him being "furious" at any time.
Yankees got a butt kicking! 2 at Manassas!
Thanks Sir ! 🧐
Barring an attack on Fredericksburg within a couple of days of the arrival of the Army of the Potomac (and having lost the element of surprise in that section) due to the misplaced pontoon boats, Burnside should then have followed Hooker's later strategy at Chancellorsville, leaving a screening force in front of Lee's then-assembled army on the heights, and then striking with lightning speed with the bulk of his army upon Lee's exposed left flank. Given the description of Burnside as having only 'moderate intelligence', this would probably have been too imaginative for him.
my former best friend hates civil war tactics he calls the american civil war boring and not true history my former best friend is obsessed with nazis and adolf hitler his all time favorite tv show is the man in the high castle he worships american nazis and he never stops worshiping the man in the high castle hes obsessed with the american reich in the show he beileves hitler was a true god and a true american hero he also beileves hitlers circle of evil are also true american heroes my former best friend blamed marilyn manson and slipknot for the attacks on the world trade center he blamed both manson and slipknot on columbine he also keeps blaming manson and slipknot for lots of masscres and school shootings
The sacking of Fredericksburg was nothing compared to what happened in Laurance Kansas.
Burnside had a good plan but it was poorly executed and delays from pontoons. I think burnside should have crossed the river with a regiment or brigade and occupied the town
Ok, before anyone lectures me about Burnside, I know about his limitations and mistakes BUT, Lee did not have him figured out, had those pontoon boats been there this war would have taken a different turn.
Also the battle of the crater wasn't his fault either. The black regiment that had been training was swapped last minute because of politics and switched with a regiment woefully unprepared for that charge and yet history acts as if this man was a complet moron, kinda unfair.
Irish clear the way!
What is so civil about war when men from both sides lose their lives I don't understand why they say the civil when in fact it was the war between the north and south
@ConfederateGeorgia we are heading for another war on American soil but this time it could be rich against the poor I could be wrong
The word civil has multiple definitions. The other person replying here didn't complete grade school and is unable to understand.
Look up the word civil in the dictionary you're using the wrong definition of the word.
@@kirin8484 the end result of the so called civil war was to abolish slavery which should not have happened to start with
The north would have been in trouble if britain had have invaded
From canada!
Poorly edited.
We need some nice statues erected for the Unions fine heroic action here.
There is nothing heroic in participating in an invasion of a neighboring country that posed no threat to your own country.
There is nothing heroic about being a white supremacists unless you're poorly educated and don't understand things... Oh wait apparently that's you. Sorry the system failed you
Where do they get some of the narrators I wonder , hearing the female voice sounding like a child...........??
I would’ve did a better job commanding the Army Of The Potomac then Burnside,I would’ve have stepping foot in Fredericksburg or across The city until those poton boats 🛶 where ready on hand that way he would’ve been across the bridge before Lee formed the Defense Confederate Position,but I can’t say things different when you’re there an we as people always judge with hindsight,in Burnside defense no one knew the outcome before it Happened but his Orders and Decision making where ridiculous He was clearly a Scared an Panicked Man who was being ordered by the Union Too Commad(Lincoln) to Attack Fast
we have been fighting the same criminals to this day. today their called democrats, but now the plantation is welfare and food stamps.
You're fighting a losing battle against your poor education. Please educate yourself and learn how to spell before you continue to to boot lick white supremacists. They spelled out thier intentions in their constitution and succession documents. It's all there in thier own words it's really not that hard to understand with basic reading comprehension but apparently that might be too hard for you. Sorry that the system failed you 😬
Confederates were fighting to preserve and expand African American slavery. Read Confederate Vice President Alexander Stephens "Cornerstone Speech" made in March of 1861. Special thanks to Generals Meade, Grant, Sherman, Sheridan, over 200,000 African American Union troops known as United States Colored Troops (U.S.C.T) who fought to end slavery and the Union armies who fought to preserve the Union.
Exactly, the Neo Confederates Lost Causers still believe otherwise, but also should read the Confederate Constitution, that has laws protecting the institute of slavery. Read Alexander Steven Cornerstone Speech and read papers and letters of the time.
and what a glorious union it is!!! hail biden!!!
@@Davidbirdman101 Yes this is a glorious Union, NO F**k Creepy Sleepy Sippy Cup Joe Biden Administration. Worst president in America History and you probably voted for him, and then stole that election in 2020.
You are Southern Demoncratic!!
will- The Top Confederates were all - Jew's. @@2 and where there is money too be made there are the Jew's.
@@seanodwyer4322 I don't think all them were Jewish, they are probably Scots/ Irish and English. There was a few Jewish men who were in the high ranks of the Confederacy.
Yes they made money during the antebellum period and through out early years of the Confederacy. Most probably lost all their fortune due to the fall of the Confederacy, and the Confederate money was worthless on the market.
If only our forefathers can see Fredericksburg now. Our history is completely gone their. Filled with progressive fascists.
This was aired on TV in 80's 1989ish I remember watching it first then.🗡🦅👑🦁🦝🐍🍷💜🇺🇲
God bless Dixie
Fascists
States rights