This was the only Civil War battle where the band advanced with the troops. A Confederate veteran of the battle later said “The tooters went in with the shooters.“
My GG Grandfather was captured in the battle for Nashville in Dec 16, 1864. He was a 1st Sgt with Co G of the 57th Alabama Infantry. He died at Camp Chase Ohio on Feb 14, 1865 and is buried there, grave marker 1234. He left my GG Grandmother Temperence Lee and four children ages seven to ten. She later moved to Texas in 1872 with her four children, one of which became my Great Grandfather.
They make a big deal about Andersonville but the North treated prisoners as bad or worse and they had the resources to at least feed them better. The south tried to get the North to take the prisoners at Andersonville but Grant wouldn't do it
Oh my God please don't come online to defend ANYTHING about the south....it had to be destroyed.... PERIOD....there was nothing heroic about the souths efforts to keep their GODLESS CRUEL PECULIAR INSTITUTION....in 1856;the REPUBLICAN PARTY had one platform....END SLAVERY....a GODLESS peculiar institution that flew in the face of ALL MEN are CREATED EQUALLY....I don't feel the least sympathy for the DEMON CRAT PARTY or the CONFEDERACY as a BLACK AMERICAN....after the war and assassination of Lincoln.... DEMONCRAT ANDREW JOHNSON became president and attacked newly freed southern blacks at EVERY OPPORTUNITY....first by blocking their forty acres and a mule.... BLACK AMERICANS who vote DEMOCRAT today have forgotten how brutal the Demoncrat party was to black AMERICANS before and after the Civil war all they to their opposition to the 1964 CIVIL RIGHTS ACT....EVERY DEMON CRAT in congress voted AGAINST it ..... EVERY REPUBLICAN voted for it and passed it....the REPUBLICAN PARTY also amended the CONSTITUTION with 14th ...15 th ...and 16th amendments without a SINGLE DEMON CRAT vote.....later president U.S.GRANT would destroy the DEMON CRAT suppported KU KLUX KLAN which was a terrorist organization. HANGING and TERRORIZING newly freed blacks ALL across the SOUTH....as a BLACK AMERICAN MALE I feel nothing for the CONFEDERACY and the DEMONCRAT PARTY....the most GODLESS chapter in American history....GOD BLESS AMERICA!!!!GOD BLESS the REPUBLICAN PARTY.... GLORY HALLELUJAH!!!!!👀
I once toured an antebellum home in Franklin. We were told the battle was fought in the front yard and several Confederate generals died on the front porch.
So I was just there this past Christmas. They didn’t die on the property per se but 6 dead generals were laid on the porch after the battle. Unreal. There’s a painting in the house of the generals bodies on the porch draped with flags. It gives you chills.
@MrBossman87 you should ses the ghosts i caught 2 different one in two pics I took secs from each other looking out the same name windows and Noone was in the house it was locked.
This was rather well done. There were a lot of foolish charges during the Civil War. Then you learn Picketts Charge was smaller than the charge at Franklin. And Hood got mauled at Gettyburg as well.
You think Hood would’ve learned his lesson at Gettysburg to not commit these large scale massed attacks against a well-entrenched enemy, but he didn’t.. leading to the needless slaughter of thousands of his own men.
One of my g-grandfathers, Marquis De Lafayette (Pal) Price was enlisted in the 17th Texas Cavalry (Dismounted) and served as one of Gen. Cleburne's sharpshooters from fall of 1863 until he was furloughed back to Texas early in 1865. My grandmother told me he didn't talk much about his Civil War but did give her some details about Franklin because of his incredible experiences there. He said the sharpshooters were right in front of Granbury's Brigade as part of the attack charge and were under fire for miles. They ended up pinned down in front of Union barricades and Pal related that he was there for a long time with three other troops loading rifles for him while he popped up and down pulling the triggers. Generals Cleburne and Granbury were both killed just yards away ... and it was a miracle my ancestor survived.
I don't think any soldier in any war that experienced horror like this talked much about what they went through. My Dad was in WWII was in the army in the Pacific - Guam and then to take the Phillippines back. Was in the worst of all that mess (as thousands of others like him) and never talked about it. This is worse because it was Americans vs. Americans. God bless them all.
You too huh? I think it went like, "---the little drummer boy exploded like a ripe tomato", I may have my horrible accounts wrong. Horrible stuff, God bless y'all go see a reenactment in your area if you can. Be safe.
@@westtnskirmishlog6820 I have a photographic type memory and imagination. So I’m clearly able to imagine a young man exploding into a red mist like a tomato hit by a modern rifle. Growing up in the country we used to shoot fruits and stuff all the time and they do literally disappear into a mist. So I can easily imagine a large artillery shell doing that to a poor young man. It is horrific beyond words. A large mass of men being hit by bullets and artillery shells would create a bloody horrific mess that even the most educated can still hardly imagine. But I can see it in my head and it’s beyond comprehension and explanation.
@@westtnskirmishlog6820 Yes he was trying plug up a Union cannon with a log Confederate General Alexander Stewart who witnessed it said when the smoke of the cannon cleared it was as if he was never there
@@travisbayles870 awful stuff, thanks for clarifying. Of all the many times similar things happened to others, I guess the wording always haunted me next to the thought.
John Bell Hood should have never been placed in charge of an Army. He was one hell of a division commander; no one would want to be in front of his Texas Brigade in a charge. But, he had to be told what to do... "all lion and no fox" as R.L. Lee put it.
Political games played by men Who desired positions beyond what they were qualified for... Was a big part of what led to multiple military failures of the Confederacy.Hiid was a prime example
He had also been grievously wounded twice in couple years time and no doubt was still suffering. Ones mind can be clouded when battling severe injuries and associated pain.
The slaves paid an even worse price. That's like giving condolences to the dead muslims that died struggling to keep control of spain and their serfs, not only did slavery hinder the souths progress and cash flow, it cost these celtic idiots their worthless lives. They should have left their lazy, violent culture back in Ireland and scottland. Now the modern blacks are carrying on their traditions and culture ironically, most southern whites have moved on. The ones that haven't though are still extremely poor and violent, who would have thought? Lived in Arkansas for years and the good old boys are always poor and angry
For those who don't know, these battlefields were never preserved. Historical markers exist here and there, but there is no battlefield. The battles occurred on private property, which remain private today. Subdivisions, Interstates and shopping centers now cover the battlefield. You can drive all over the battlefield and not ever realize you are on one.
@@williammacdonald3173 - From what I have seen, most of this is modern preservation centered around the Carter House and farm which was preserved. The holes in the wall of the one building are incredible to see in this video by the Battlefield Trust ruclips.net/video/HGHrS1ZqsFo/видео.html - the last 5-10 minutes.
Thank you for this. You have painted a very realistic image of the trials my great- g- g- grandfather suffered leading to his capture at Nashville 16 Dec 1864. The privations experienced leading up to the battle as well as those endured during transport and incarceration at Camp Chase, OH lead to his death in Ohio a few weeks after the war ended.
My g-g-grandfather was a 1st Sgt. with Company G of the 57th Alabama Infantry that was also captured at Nashville in Dec 1864 and died at Camp Chase Ohio Feb 14, 1865 and is buried there. J. F. Faircloth of Coffee Co. Ala. What a coincidence.
@@i.r.oldairborneviking2823 Many yankee prison camps were just as bad as some rebel camps for nearly same reasons, except deep South heat/humidity and North had extreme cold. Anyone who says differently is ignorant of history r lying. So prisoners not exchanged fairly quickly had a slim chance of survival unfortunately. My GG grandfather was killed n "Pickett's Charge" crossing Emmitsburg road high fence; he was 45 years old with 4 children---if he'd been captured, it's very likely he woulda died n captivity. Even as early as Summer '63, Confederate gov was calling-up reserves (home guard) due to manpower needs.
My Great, Great Grandfather fought with the 26th Ohio Infantry. In his memoirs he wrote about the battle of Franklin... from his perspective, it was payback for Stones River.
My Great Great Grandfather was in the 1st Mississippi Partison Rangers also known as the 7th Miss.Cavarly.He was a 2nd Lt.They may have rode with Forrest in this battle.They were a part of Forrest's Cavarly.
@@davesmith3023 Its sad but true For example a twelve year old drummer boy was trying to disable a Union cannon and one of the gun crew pulled the lantern and blew that poor boy into a million pieces
As Yankee generals go, Thomas was decent enough and a solid general. Sherman called him "Slow Trot" because he was so cautious in his movements and dispositions. Sherman said if Thomas saw a ploughed field, he would halt, entrench and then plan an assault.
@@unbreakable7633 I believe his military record during the Civil War, taken in its totality, was solid. But because he died so young and not in battle, he is frequently overlooked. He's still my favorite.
@@Tomatohater64 He had a solid record, no dispute there. And I like him more than most Union generals (my favorite Yankee general is likely Fitz-John Porter). David Powell makes it clear in his three volume account of Chickamauga, however, that he could not have held out much longer on Snodgrass Hill and only the fall of night saved him and his outnumbered command. He won at Nashville in large measure because Hood wrecked the Army of Tennessee at Franklin and then stupidly sent Forrest off to Murfreesboro with 8000 desperately needed men and most of the Confederate cavalry. I simply pointed out that Sherman had his issues with Thomas but Sherman undoubtedly put much confidence in him even so.
Jefferson Davis made a terrible mistake when he promoted John Bell Hood to Commander of the Tennessee Army.Two of the greatest warriors in the Civil War were bypassed probably because of discrimination. Neither General Nathan Bedford Forrest or General Patrick Clebourne had gone to West Point which many generals on both sides had done. Also Clebourne was not a southerner. He was an Irish immigrant. Both of these men had proven in battle to be extremely capable commanders.
Not promoting Patrick Cleburne to corps or army command in the Army of Tennessee was one of the most serious errors Confederate leadership made during the war
Hood was a very capable military leader in the ANV however, by the time he assumed command of the armies of Tn. war wounds and quinine made him unfit to lead.
That Video Post music and imagery is worthy of hallowed art status. ' Cry havoc and unleash the dogs of war ' or something like that. Tragic magnificence and suffering on an epic scale.
When Jefferson Davis asked General Lee what he thought of General John Bell Hood as a possible commander of the western army to replace General Joe Johnston all Lee could say was, " All lion, very little of the fox". By the time of the battle at Franklin Hood was a cripple. He had a useless arm, no left leg, and needed morphine almost daily to remain on his horse.
He also described him as a skilled corps commander (i.e. having a ranking officer to guide him), and that he was, "very industrious on the battlefield, very careless off."
The Battle of Franklin reminds me a lot of the Battle of the Bulge in WW2. One final, desperate, and virtually hopeless offensive campaign by an army on the brink of doom.
The Army of Tennessee never once had a good commander. The men loved old Joe for his kind treatment of them, but his ineffectiveness is what got Johnston relieved of command. Compare that with Robert E. Lee who couldn't even get his resignation accepted by Jefferson Davis.
@@mnpd3 Johnston was a lot better than most give him credit for. Davis' choice to relieve him was one of his most disputed of the war. He eventually restored him to the army at the insistence of Lee. But yes it is true that the Western Confederate army went through a long string of leaders, like the Union army in the East. Davis said the death of Albert Sydney Johnston was "the turning point of our fate", while Confederate general Randall Gibson said "the West perished with Albert Sidney Johnston, and the Southern country followed."
Davis’s refusal to fire Bragg despite overwhelming evidence he lost confidence of both the officer corps and the rank and file crippled the Army of the Tennessee’s chance of victory well before Hood took over
@@TheStapleGunKid Wishful thinking on the part of the Confederates. The turning point of their fate was the day they bombarded Sumpter, as it was for the Japanese when they bombed Pearl Harbour. If you take on an industrially far superior enemy in modern conventional warfare, it's only a matter of time till you lose. Both the Confederacy and the Japanese had to gamble that the US would lose heart and make an early peace. That was their only hope. Both made a fundamental misjudgement.
John Bell Hood wasted his men in useless frontal assaults. They were done to punish the Army of Tennessee. I highly recommend Sam Watkins book Company Eighch (H). He writes with a down home style but it's a great read.
Hood wouldn't have "punished" his own people with mass death. I don't what asshole thought that up, but Franklin was just his typical way to fight.... charge! It was the only way he'd ever done things.
@@mnpd3The History Channel made the “punishment” rumor and with the way Hood held the AoT in contempt when he took command for-his thoughts, albeit paraphrased badly-“their need of breastworks”, and the thought of punishing an army is plausible.
How shall i phrase it kindly in the American civil war we have militia fighting under militia officers. They learned in the job and some learned well and others did not. This means a lot of bluster happened as they weren't qualified.
Very fine presentation - I think it still holds up very well ! This battle has always been difficult to categorize historically. It easily offends old rivals and frays the nerves of many discussion groups. Northerners initially thought this a great, healthy Confederate army, ready to march on and lay siege to Chicago, Indianapolis, Detroit, Cleveland, Buffalo. Lee and Johnston needed a diversionary force to take pressure off Virginia and likely saw this as, at best, a necessary, but secondary theatre of war. William T. Sherman wouldn't follow Bell Hood into Tennessee and the Union relied on Thomas and Schofield to repel him. Maybe the last, glorious thrust north to the Ohio for The Cause, but the rebs were, in fact, ragged, hungry, worn down and commanded by one - 'Old Wooden Head' - who fought boldly, but didn't think wisely ...🤔
It's interesting that Schofield's biggest error is given little criticism posting Wagner's two brigades in from of his mail line creating an obstacle to firing from the mainline.
If you’ve ever had broken bones in your lifetime I imagine multiply that physical pain by 1.000 and you may have an inkling of the pain these poor bastards endured
Patrick Cleburne was called the Stonewall of the West. Brilliant and brave, he was prevented from becoming the commanding general of the Army of the Tennessee because he drew the ire of Jefferson Davis and fellow generals for requesting the Confederacy recruit slaves in to the army, guaranteeing their freedom. Not a popular idea to the elite but the huge number of Black soldiers would have swelled the ranks and could have made a difference.
Franklin shows what the power of one man can do When that one man is added to an entire army -- it can decimate another entire army When that one man is the leader of that other army And that one man loses sight of who he's fighting
One tactic that was becoming outdated by the time of the war was the full frontal assaults and streamlined infantry formatons due to increased range and accuracy of the weapons such as rifling technology. Fredericksburg, Cold Harbor, Pickett's Charge (actually a bit more complicated event) and Franklin are noteworthy examples. But even into the 20th this tactic was being used because of most commanders obsession for command and control and failure to update their methods.
The reluctance (to put it mildly) of some of the field commanders was also evident in 1929/40 during the Nazi invasion of Belgium 🇧🇪, the Netherlands 🇳🇱 (Holland) and France, the French commanders were in overall command of the whole allied forces, they failed to appreciate that they were facing an enemy who had brought a new way of attacking, namely blitzkrieg, the top brass were a throwback to 1914-1918 (WWI) and even before then, they were convinced that the war would descend into trench warfare and only planned for that scenario, and we all know how that played out, and it wasn’t a good end for the allied forces, thank goodness for Dunkirk.
Franklin, where Hood wrecked the Army of Tennessee and destroyed any chance to take Nashville. Worst commander the army had and that says a lot since Bragg really bit the big one. Johnston was the commander of the army that did the best and his men appreciated that he didn't waste their lives and fighting spirit.
When was this filmed? Because if it was filmed in 1995, I participated in the reenactment as a soldier with the 19th Alabama Infantry. I recognize the terrain and how it looks in this documentary and it is exactly what it looked like back in 1995
It’s good channel. Keep doing remarkable job, friend. It’s incredible educational for me, though as an outsider I guess, make quite different conclusions form those that might be intended. Anyway, totally proves the saying, those who don’t learn the history are doomed to repeat it.
I think you mistake the tactics of Napoleon. His vision of battle was columns. It was the British who stood shoulder to shoulder and saved the modern world from tyranny.
Well the Prussians. the Austrians, the Russians had the men, the guns and the won battles. The English were in Spain, but in Spain was no Napoleon just french troops. Wellington had lost without the prussian army and Blucher saving the day. Not to mention an Austrian and Russian army was moving against France. So Napoleon was outnumbered 4 to one and had no chance even if he had won Waterloo.
All previous mentioned countries had lost battles and wars to the French and Napoleon except Wellingtons army.Prussian’s had even been beaten day before Waterloo at Ligny so don’t bang on about Blucher and Prussians they were a spent force.
What's interesting to me after seeing this is that Hood's strategy of cutting off and decimating Schofield's army was pretty sound. But he was probably so high on opium/laudnum from the pain that he wasn't fit to make any battlefield adjustments fast enough to see it through.
I understand the overall outcome of the out of date tactics used at the time. But wouldn’t even firing your weapon from a one ☝🏾 knee position have been better than standing. Than rise and March forward and repeat? You had to have balls made of stainless steel not even brass to be able to stand there fire March reload and fire into murderous volleys of lead
I think hood COULD have been successful commanding an army before his injury at Gettysburg and was in constant pain getting loaded on that opiate tincture. Not that I blame him, i likely would have done the same put in his position in his health. I also believe the writing was pretty much on the wall by the time he got that army. Not only had Gettysburg taken place, Vicksburg fell and those were to the south what stalingrad and kursk were to the Germans. Idk if the south had the men and material to go north again if they wanted to. Or maybe I just have sympathy for Sam because I'm a naturally empathetic, understanding type of person.
At Franklin Hood was it is said," teaching his undisciplined Force a lesson " with the frontal assault. You maybe correct but his battplan was fatally flaws. 🎶 And now I'm heading southward, my heart is full of woe. I'm going back to Georgie to find my Uncle Joe. 🎶 🎶 you my talk a about your Beauregard a d sing of Bobby Lee, but the Gallant Hood of Texas sure played hell in Tennessee. 🎶
Sending in a final charge and lossing so many high ranking officer was a big mistake for General Hood . But , the General in charge was mad because of the Fedarals walked right by them the night earyeir .
When I saw the title, I immediately thought there had been another school massacre. Has there been a school shooting in Franklin? So many it's hard to keep track.
There were a lot of the big slave owners who pushed for this war. The guy who fired the first cannon shot at Fort Sumter was a big slave owner from Mississippi.
There were also a lot of northern industrialists that wished to control the agricultural south who pushed for war,since free blacks and slaves were treated badly before, during and after the war by the north slaves and slavery were just an excuse
I found some of that history. Within an urban wastewater system. Tool marks of slaves. Hired to build entrenchments. For the CSA and USA. Slave owners were exempt from CSA conscription but a gold-backed revenue was often quietly welcomed
Could’ve fought for months with the army hood was given. He mangled his own compatriots. Knowingly at that. How you beat an army to the punch just to let them march right by you during the night is unbelievable almost. Should’ve been Cleburne.Young, respected, battle tested, and brave. I always wondered why they didn’t just put the capitol of the confederacy in Texas? Plenty safe from an invading army. In my opinion.
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It's quite possible that holding Atlanta through the '64 election might have meant a Pres. McClellan and both a Conf. victory and the end of emancipation.
When the Atlanta Campaign Started in Dalton on may 7th 1864 Johnston was outnumbered 4 to 1. on July 17th of 1864 Sherman as lost over 30,000 men and Johnston losing not even half of that when hood replace Johnston it was 5:8 ratio. All Johnston had to do was keep what he was doing and slowly bleed Shermans army.
I do agree. Johnston was a good general, knowing that the war aught to be a defensive one. Enough of the stupidly over confident aggressive confederate generals. They all eventually met failure.
Or he would have kept evacuating until he got to Havana but seriously after he failed to do anything to relive Vicksburg I have doubts he would have not pulled out of Atlanta prematurely- more confidence in Hardee or Breckinridge
Glad that General George Thomas, stayed in the Union, & his Service Proved his Loyalty to the United State's! His Virginia Family were "Upset", about it! Imagine if George had gone South, & fought for the C.S.A., there would not have been the "Rock of Chickamauga", & the Union Army would have been Destroyed there, But for the Rock?
Southerner’s knew how bad it would be if they lost, and it was terrible during Reconstruction. It was horrible, postwar for the Southerns. I have my family’s diaries telling about wartime and postwar atrocities.
Then he has no excuse for his tactical blunders - great division commander but poor corps commander and a disaster army commander- not as bad as Bragg of course
Benjamin Franklin Cheatham screwed Hood!! This film must be the original Battle of Franklin film, the re edit version is better. The Battle of Franklin Five Hours in the Valley of Death. A Documentary Film About The Historical Civil War Battle. But this is 😎 cool to see. Cool this also takes place after Franklin also.
16:07 - as usual a complete misunderstanding of Napoleonic tactics. Infantry tactics by the end of the Napoleonic wars was all about quick movement in columns, screened by large numbers of skirmishers. This was rarely done during the civil war. Tactically the civil war was much closer to the 7 year war as fought Europe. Slow moving line trading fire at close range. And the usual myth about the rifle musket. It simply don't matter than men have rifle muskets, when they never learned to use it at more than point blank range. None of the two sides implemented any sort of structured marksmanship program. And it takes serious training to hit anything with riflemusket at unknown ranges ourside of 150 yards. The result is that the typical combatrange was about 100yards... well within effective smoothbore range.
Oh ok this is the first time the repeater rifle was first used. Oh man fell sorry for Johnny Reb. They didn't know. Paid for their lives in the thousands. Horrible
So I do enjoy this documentary but it’s somewhat outdated in its information, imo. This program takes some of the Central figures in this fight and makes some very glaring assumptions about their attitude and disposition. For Cause and For Country by Eric Jacobson I think gives some clarity on this. Fantastic read for any Franklin enthusiasts. Mr. Jacobson is the foremost authority on this battle.
War of attrition... The rifle musket was only used at longer ranges to a limited extent. The trajectory of the mini ball was so exaggerated, "like a modern shotgun "foster slug," that trajectory training for so many soldiers was impractical. That is why the shooting was generally withheld until the opposition was in the vicinity of 100 yards. "Buck and Ball" continued the preferred load, shot from smooth bore muskets and was effective out to 100 yards. Repeating lever action rifles were used towards the end of the war, but not as military issue, but were private purchases. Rifle muskets are "highly accurate at long ranges" only if the soldiers are trained to adjust for trajectory, which included formal training for judging distances, which they were not. The "mass assault" encountered most rifle fire when in the vicinity of 100 yards of the breastworks. I do not know the, then, trajectory of the lever action repeating rifle. Artillery has the most range.
(1) Remember JBH was a soldier and followed orders. (2) Remember that this was primarily an infantry war; in the infantry, the ground's features control the maneuvers and tactics. (3) JBH was a convenient scapegoat. Jefferson Davis knew that JBH's physical problems would force him to not perform a commanding general's job correctly. (4) Remember REL was successful when defending against Union generals who were invading. REL lost when he invaded - that was Gettysburg.
@ 5:32 IS that a Winchester 1866 I see being used in the recreation of the battle?, if so why? I thought 💭, rightly or wrongly, that the Winchester rifle descended from the Henry and even that rifle was not used or manufactured in large numbers. Obviously I could be wrong, as could Google, so please feel free to correct me, I don’t bite………..or at least not often, lol😊.
It is a myth that Hood took Laudanum . Eric Jacobson author of two books on the Battle of Franklin found that not one person that knew Hood ever saw him take Laudanum. The myth was traced to a 1964 Magazine article with no evidence to back it up. It was just speculation. The night that Schofield snuck past Spring Hill Hood had ordered that road be blocked but the General that was assigned the task was ordered by another General to move east to link up with the rest of the units around Spring Hill. The unit moved a couple of hundred yards east of the road. If they hadn't moved the battle would have taken place at Spring Hill not Franklin. It is a good thing it did or my Gr Great Grandfather might have been killed in the 183rd Ohio Inf. on that road as his unit was the rear guard and I would not have been born.
They do all they can to try to prove John bell hood was the mr brownstone of the confederate army. No matter what- the line broke at Franklin- but situations changed. I had family captured at Franklin - 39 Mississippi inf company I and another watching from winstead hill with 36 alabama
John bell Hood was one of the worst Generals ever . He got his men slaughtered on the field and many other battles he did the same . Sad these men had to die the way they did . Sherman said it best War is Hell and he was correct.
15:43 Thanks, that answers the question I have been having since kid every time I watched movies about battles in America. My apology I'd been calling the Americans stupid then
They marched north in he beginning of winter into a larger better supplied army. Oh well The intentions were noble Will they be defeated of freeze to death ?
Toured the Confederate Missouri grave sites in the Confederate Cemetary at Franklin a couple years ago. Paid my respects.Not far from the antebellum home at Franklin. Most Missourians were fighting the union invaders in their home State.
Both Thomas and Hood were mediocre generals, Thomas prevailed because of superior numbers and a good defensive posirion. If John A. Logan had replaced him (as Grant planned), the slaughter would have been much worse.
On a night before a battle and understanding this could b the last night of life prayers to god have to b real some of those confederate soldiers regetted the way they treated the blacks
I notice one thing, many of the confederate reinactors are way to heavy, by this time in the war, starvation for the south was a daily way of life. just look at the period pictures of the confederate troops.
Even as a Pennsylvanian, sometimes I wish I could grab these confederate generals and shake them, for attacking prepared positions over open ground time and again.
I think every general officer in both army's were just cold blooded murderers of their own men. Great leadership demands adaptability to new situations. None of the generals on both sides, even by the end of the war were able to adapt to the changes in war technology.
Hood was indeed a fighter but as good as he was at it, he wasn’t a good General from the perspective of tactics. His main strategy was frontal assault.
This was the only Civil War battle where the band advanced with the troops. A Confederate veteran of the battle later said “The tooters went in with the shooters.“
They farted as they charged the Yankees? 🤣😂😜
I was a rooter but ARMED
My GG Grandfather was captured in the battle for Nashville in Dec 16, 1864. He was a 1st Sgt with Co G of the 57th Alabama Infantry. He died at Camp Chase Ohio on Feb 14, 1865 and is buried there, grave marker 1234. He left my GG Grandmother Temperence Lee and four children ages seven to ten. She later moved to Texas in 1872 with her four children, one of which became my Great Grandfather.
He was right there with my 4th great grandfather. Also 57th Alabama but Co. A. He died at Camp Chase that January. RIP.
They make a big deal about Andersonville but the North treated prisoners as bad or worse and they had the resources to at least feed them better. The south tried to get the North to take the prisoners at Andersonville but Grant wouldn't do it
FACT!@@bluesky6985
Oh my God please don't come online to defend ANYTHING about the south....it had to be destroyed.... PERIOD....there was nothing heroic about the souths efforts to keep their GODLESS CRUEL PECULIAR INSTITUTION....in 1856;the REPUBLICAN PARTY had one platform....END SLAVERY....a GODLESS peculiar institution that flew in the face of ALL MEN are CREATED EQUALLY....I don't feel the least sympathy for the DEMON CRAT PARTY or the CONFEDERACY as a BLACK AMERICAN....after the war and assassination of Lincoln.... DEMONCRAT ANDREW JOHNSON became president and attacked newly freed southern blacks at EVERY OPPORTUNITY....first by blocking their forty acres and a mule.... BLACK AMERICANS who vote DEMOCRAT today have forgotten how brutal the Demoncrat party was to black AMERICANS before and after the Civil war all they to their opposition to the 1964 CIVIL RIGHTS ACT....EVERY DEMON CRAT in congress voted AGAINST it ..... EVERY REPUBLICAN voted for it and passed it....the REPUBLICAN PARTY also amended the CONSTITUTION with 14th ...15 th ...and 16th amendments without a SINGLE DEMON CRAT vote.....later president U.S.GRANT would destroy the DEMON CRAT suppported KU KLUX KLAN which was a terrorist organization. HANGING and TERRORIZING newly freed blacks ALL across the SOUTH....as a BLACK AMERICAN MALE I feel nothing for the CONFEDERACY and the DEMONCRAT PARTY....the most GODLESS chapter in American history....GOD BLESS AMERICA!!!!GOD BLESS the REPUBLICAN PARTY.... GLORY HALLELUJAH!!!!!👀
I once toured an antebellum home in Franklin. We were told the battle was fought in the front yard and several Confederate generals died on the front porch.
So I was just there this past Christmas. They didn’t die on the property per se but 6 dead generals were laid on the porch after the battle. Unreal. There’s a painting in the house of the generals bodies on the porch draped with flags. It gives you chills.
My mistake, only 4 of them were generals, 2 were lower rank but there were dead generals laid on the porch at Carnton.
@@MrBossman87The Carter House and Carton were both moving to go through back a few years ago. Time to go visit again.
@MrBossman87 you should ses the ghosts i caught 2 different one in two pics I took secs from each other looking out the same name windows and Noone was in the house it was locked.
This was rather well done.
There were a lot of foolish charges during the Civil War. Then you learn Picketts Charge was smaller than the charge at Franklin. And Hood got mauled at Gettyburg as well.
You think Hood would’ve learned his lesson at Gettysburg to not commit these large scale massed attacks against a well-entrenched enemy, but he didn’t.. leading to the needless slaughter of thousands of his own men.
People think Pickett's Charge was the biggest infantry assault of the war but it was at Franklin.
One of my g-grandfathers, Marquis De Lafayette (Pal) Price was enlisted in the 17th Texas Cavalry (Dismounted) and served as one of Gen. Cleburne's sharpshooters from fall of 1863 until he was furloughed back to Texas early in 1865. My grandmother told me he didn't talk much about his Civil War but did give her some details about Franklin because of his incredible experiences there. He said the sharpshooters were right in front of Granbury's Brigade as part of the attack charge and were under fire for miles. They ended up pinned down in front of Union barricades and Pal related that he was there for a long time with three other troops loading rifles for him while he popped up and down pulling the triggers. Generals Cleburne and Granbury were both killed just yards away ... and it was a miracle my ancestor survived.
Amazing story passed down . I live some miles from Franklin, it must truly have been ‘Hell’ for both sides that fateful night
By far, "hell" for the Confederates ... 30% casualties, inc. 6 generals killed, 7 wounded and 1 captured.
I don't think any soldier in any war that experienced horror like this talked much about what they went through. My Dad was in WWII was in the army in the Pacific - Guam and then to take the Phillippines back. Was in the worst of all that mess (as thousands of others like him) and never talked about it. This is worse because it was Americans vs. Americans. God bless them all.
Been at Franklin many times.
A great place to collect your deep thoughts.
Just gott back..my first trip. Very .moving
Grew up in that area, seen the battlefield back when it was still pristine and not a big suburb.
Sam Watkins writes about a man blowing up like a tomato 🍅 from a point blank artillery hit. Makes my skin crawl
You too huh? I think it went like, "---the little drummer boy exploded like a ripe tomato", I may have my horrible accounts wrong.
Horrible stuff, God bless y'all go see a reenactment in your area if you can. Be safe.
@@westtnskirmishlog6820 I have a photographic type memory and imagination. So I’m clearly able to imagine a young man exploding into a red mist like a tomato hit by a modern rifle. Growing up in the country we used to shoot fruits and stuff all the time and they do literally disappear into a mist. So I can easily imagine a large artillery shell doing that to a poor young man. It is horrific beyond words. A large mass of men being hit by bullets and artillery shells would create a bloody horrific mess that even the most educated can still hardly imagine. But I can see it in my head and it’s beyond comprehension and explanation.
@@JohnnyRebKy yes sir very well said.
@@westtnskirmishlog6820 Yes he was trying plug up a Union cannon with a log Confederate General Alexander Stewart who witnessed it said when the smoke of the cannon cleared it was as if he was never there
@@travisbayles870 awful stuff, thanks for clarifying. Of all the many times similar things happened to others, I guess the wording always haunted me next to the thought.
What a battle. Many of my ancestors fought in this battle, all in the 33rd Alabama Regiment and they all lived,.
John Bell Hood should have never been placed in charge of an Army. He was one hell of a division commander; no one would want to be in front of his Texas Brigade in a charge. But, he had to be told what to do... "all lion and no fox" as R.L. Lee put it.
Political games played by men
Who desired positions beyond what they were qualified for... Was a big part of what led to multiple military failures of the Confederacy.Hiid was a prime example
He had also been grievously wounded twice in couple years time and no doubt was still suffering. Ones mind can be clouded when battling severe injuries and associated pain.
You think he was a Hail Mary pass, running out of commanders?
The South will Rise Again!!
@@bradentoncane8830😂😂😂
That was awesome history. Full stop.
The opening credits music and imagery is breathtaking in its profound magnificence of epic tragedy and suffering. Most awesome.
All of these soldiers paid a horrible price. They must be honored. Many left their families never to return.
The slaves paid an even worse price. That's like giving condolences to the dead muslims that died struggling to keep control of spain and their serfs, not only did slavery hinder the souths progress and cash flow, it cost these celtic idiots their worthless lives. They should have left their lazy, violent culture back in Ireland and scottland. Now the modern blacks are carrying on their traditions and culture ironically, most southern whites have moved on. The ones that haven't though are still extremely poor and violent, who would have thought? Lived in Arkansas for years and the good old boys are always poor and angry
i only honor the union soldiers
For those who don't know, these battlefields were never preserved. Historical markers exist here and there, but there is no battlefield. The battles occurred on private property, which remain private today. Subdivisions, Interstates and shopping centers now cover the battlefield. You can drive all over the battlefield and not ever realize you are on one.
Part of Franklin is preserved
Do your research before you comment
They find remains during construction around Franklin. No telling who might be buried in your backyard
@@williammacdonald3173 - From what I have seen, most of this is modern preservation centered around the Carter House and farm which was preserved. The holes in the wall of the one building are incredible to see in this video by the Battlefield Trust ruclips.net/video/HGHrS1ZqsFo/видео.html - the last 5-10 minutes.
I am trying to get involved with American battlefield trust
Thank you for this. You have painted a very realistic image of the trials my great- g- g- grandfather suffered leading to his capture at Nashville 16 Dec 1864. The privations experienced leading up to the battle as well as those endured during transport and incarceration at Camp Chase, OH lead to his death in Ohio a few weeks after the war ended.
My g-g-grandfather was a 1st Sgt. with Company G of the 57th Alabama Infantry that was also captured at Nashville in Dec 1864 and died at Camp Chase Ohio Feb 14, 1865 and is buried there. J. F. Faircloth of Coffee Co. Ala. What a coincidence.
@@i.r.oldairborneviking2823 Many yankee prison camps were just as bad as some rebel camps for nearly same reasons, except deep South heat/humidity and North had extreme cold. Anyone who says differently is ignorant of history r lying. So prisoners not exchanged fairly quickly had a slim chance of survival unfortunately.
My GG grandfather was killed n "Pickett's Charge" crossing Emmitsburg road high fence; he was 45 years old with 4 children---if he'd been captured, it's very likely he woulda died n captivity. Even as early as Summer '63, Confederate gov was calling-up reserves (home guard) due to manpower needs.
My 3GGF was captured in July 1864 and sent to camp chase also. He was transferred in spring 1865
46th Alabama infantry
@@davesmith3023. Dumb Ass!
Like your sense of humor@@davesmith3023
My Great, Great Grandfather fought with the 26th Ohio Infantry. In his memoirs he wrote about the battle of Franklin... from his perspective, it was payback for Stones River.
My Great Great Grandfather was in the 1st Mississippi Partison Rangers also known as the 7th Miss.Cavarly.He was a 2nd Lt.They may have rode with Forrest in this battle.They were a part of Forrest's Cavarly.
If we are to die let us die like men
General Patrick Cleburne
Confederate Army
He couldn't very well have said let us die like white supremacists.
He died like a pig on the battlefield lmao. They fought to keep others living like animals, but wanted to be treated like men. What a joke. 😂
@@davesmith3023 Its sad but true For example a twelve year old drummer boy was trying to disable a Union cannon and one of the gun crew pulled the lantern and blew that poor boy into a million pieces
They definitely did a lot of dying.
@@RogerDuly It was a bloody battle for both sides
G.H. Thomas: my absolute favorite Civil War General. He survived the war only to die from a stroke at his desk at age 53. Fabulous video, gentlemen. 👍
As Yankee generals go, Thomas was decent enough and a solid general. Sherman called him "Slow Trot" because he was so cautious in his movements and dispositions. Sherman said if Thomas saw a ploughed field, he would halt, entrench and then plan an assault.
@@unbreakable7633 I believe his military record during the Civil War, taken in its totality, was solid. But because he died so young and not in battle, he is frequently overlooked. He's still my favorite.
@@Tomatohater64 He had a solid record, no dispute there. And I like him more than most Union generals (my favorite Yankee general is likely Fitz-John Porter). David Powell makes it clear in his three volume account of Chickamauga, however, that he could not have held out much longer on Snodgrass Hill and only the fall of night saved him and his outnumbered command. He won at Nashville in large measure because Hood wrecked the Army of Tennessee at Franklin and then stupidly sent Forrest off to Murfreesboro with 8000 desperately needed men and most of the Confederate cavalry. I simply pointed out that Sherman had his issues with Thomas but Sherman undoubtedly put much confidence in him even so.
Jefferson Davis made a terrible mistake when he promoted John Bell Hood to Commander of the Tennessee Army.Two of the greatest warriors in the Civil War were bypassed probably because of discrimination. Neither General Nathan Bedford Forrest or General Patrick Clebourne had gone to West Point which many generals on both sides had done. Also Clebourne was not a southerner. He was an Irish immigrant. Both of these men had proven in battle to be extremely capable commanders.
Forrest never lead infantry or had to master artillery.
Not promoting Patrick Cleburne to corps or army command in the Army of Tennessee was one of the most serious errors Confederate leadership made during the war
Hood was a very capable military leader in the ANV however, by the time he assumed command of the armies of Tn. war wounds and quinine made him unfit to lead.
DAVENPORT IOWA DAD JOKE of the day
[Q] what are,the most mentally deranged, INSECTS,known to mankind?
[A] why, the LUNAR-TICK's,of course
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That Video Post music and imagery is worthy of hallowed art status. ' Cry havoc and unleash the dogs of war ' or something like that. Tragic magnificence and suffering on an epic scale.
When Jefferson Davis asked General Lee what he thought of General John Bell Hood as a possible commander of the western army to replace General Joe Johnston all Lee could say was, " All lion, very little of the fox". By the time of the battle at Franklin Hood was a cripple. He had a useless arm, no left leg, and needed morphine almost daily to remain on his horse.
Lee also said of Hood He's a bold fighter but I'm doubtful of any other qualities
Hood was a superb division commander but lacked the intellectual firepower for any higher rank - especially not command of an independent army
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He also described him as a skilled corps commander (i.e. having a ranking officer to guide him), and that he was, "very industrious on the battlefield, very careless off."
Both sides had leadership problems. How about Burnside at Fredericksburg?.😢😢😢
The Battle of Franklin reminds me a lot of the Battle of the Bulge in WW2. One final, desperate, and virtually hopeless offensive campaign by an army on the brink of doom.
The Army of Tennessee never once had a good commander. The men loved old Joe for his kind treatment of them, but his ineffectiveness is what got Johnston relieved of command. Compare that with Robert E. Lee who couldn't even get his resignation accepted by Jefferson Davis.
@@mnpd3 Johnston was a lot better than most give him credit for. Davis' choice to relieve him was one of his most disputed of the war. He eventually restored him to the army at the insistence of Lee.
But yes it is true that the Western Confederate army went through a long string of leaders, like the Union army in the East. Davis said the death of Albert Sydney Johnston was "the turning point of our fate", while Confederate general Randall Gibson said "the West perished with Albert Sidney Johnston, and the Southern country followed."
Only less better lead, General Hood was not up to the task, Model was.
Davis’s refusal to fire Bragg despite overwhelming evidence he lost confidence of both the officer corps and the rank and file crippled the Army of the Tennessee’s chance of victory well before Hood took over
@@TheStapleGunKid Wishful thinking on the part of the Confederates. The turning point of their fate was the day they bombarded Sumpter, as it was for the Japanese when they bombed Pearl Harbour. If you take on an industrially far superior enemy in modern conventional warfare, it's only a matter of time till you lose.
Both the Confederacy and the Japanese had to gamble that the US would lose heart and make an early peace. That was their only hope.
Both made a fundamental misjudgement.
John Bell Hood wasted his men in useless frontal assaults. They were done to punish the Army of Tennessee. I highly recommend Sam Watkins book Company Eighch (H). He writes with a down home style but it's a great read.
Hood wouldn't have "punished" his own people with mass death. I don't what asshole thought that up, but Franklin was just his typical way to fight.... charge! It was the only way he'd ever done things.
@@mnpd3The History Channel made the “punishment” rumor and with the way Hood held the AoT in contempt when he took command for-his thoughts, albeit paraphrased badly-“their need of breastworks”, and the thought of punishing an army is plausible.
How shall i phrase it kindly in the American civil war we have militia fighting under militia officers. They learned in the job and some learned well and others did not. This means a lot of bluster happened as they weren't qualified.
Very fine presentation - I think it still holds up very well ! This battle has always been difficult to categorize historically. It easily offends old rivals and frays the nerves of many discussion groups. Northerners initially thought this a great, healthy Confederate army, ready to march on and lay siege to Chicago, Indianapolis, Detroit, Cleveland, Buffalo. Lee and Johnston needed a diversionary force to take pressure off Virginia and likely saw this as, at best, a necessary, but secondary theatre of war. William T. Sherman wouldn't follow Bell Hood into Tennessee and the Union relied on Thomas and Schofield to repel him. Maybe the last, glorious thrust north to the Ohio for The Cause, but the rebs were, in fact, ragged, hungry, worn down and commanded by one - 'Old Wooden Head' - who fought boldly, but didn't think wisely ...🤔
This is an excellent documentary.
I have this on VHS tape somewhere. Got it when I was a kid visiting some of the battlefields back in the South.
It's interesting that Schofield's biggest error is given little criticism posting Wagner's two brigades in from of his mail line creating an obstacle to firing from the mainline.
really well done ,enjoyable and accurate
If you’ve ever had broken bones in your lifetime I imagine multiply that physical pain by 1.000 and you may have an inkling of the pain these poor bastards endured
Patrick Cleburne was called the Stonewall of the West. Brilliant and brave, he was prevented from becoming the commanding general of the Army of the Tennessee because he drew the ire of Jefferson Davis and fellow generals for requesting the Confederacy recruit slaves in to the army, guaranteeing their freedom. Not a popular idea to the elite but the huge number of Black soldiers would have swelled the ranks and could have made a difference.
I’m sure those slaves would have been very motivated to serve the despots who enslaved them. What a stupid idea.
Franklin shows what the power of one man can do
When that one man is added to an entire army -- it can decimate another entire army
When that one man is the leader of that other army
And that one man loses sight of who he's fighting
One tactic that was becoming outdated by the time of the war was the full frontal assaults and streamlined infantry formatons due to increased range and accuracy of the weapons such as rifling technology. Fredericksburg, Cold Harbor, Pickett's Charge (actually a bit more complicated event) and Franklin are noteworthy examples. But even into the 20th this tactic was being used because of most commanders obsession for command and control and failure to update their methods.
Would have been good to have adopted storm trooper tactics. Refuse open battle.
Less others jest, the standard infantry tactic in RVN was "charge the ambush." Machine gunners love the idiocy of officers trained in such tactics.
The reluctance (to put it mildly) of some of the field commanders was also evident in 1929/40 during the Nazi invasion of Belgium 🇧🇪, the Netherlands 🇳🇱 (Holland) and France, the French commanders were in overall command of the whole allied forces, they failed to appreciate that they were facing an enemy who had brought a new way of attacking, namely blitzkrieg, the top brass were a throwback to 1914-1918 (WWI) and even before then, they were convinced that the war would descend into trench warfare and only planned for that scenario, and we all know how that played out, and it wasn’t a good end for the allied forces, thank goodness for Dunkirk.
In this idiots humble opinion. Nathan Bedford Forest was the man’s unit you wanted to be part of if you wanted a chance of surviving this lunacy.
Hood lost an arm and a leg, also the army of tennessee.
So many nice Hardee Flags. ✌
Franklin, where Hood wrecked the Army of Tennessee and destroyed any chance to take Nashville. Worst commander the army had and that says a lot since Bragg really bit the big one. Johnston was the commander of the army that did the best and his men appreciated that he didn't waste their lives and fighting spirit.
When was this filmed? Because if it was filmed in 1995, I participated in the reenactment as a soldier with the 19th Alabama Infantry. I recognize the terrain and how it looks in this documentary and it is exactly what it looked like back in 1995
It’s good channel. Keep doing remarkable job, friend. It’s incredible educational for me, though as an outsider I guess, make quite different conclusions form those that might be intended. Anyway, totally proves the saying, those who don’t learn the history are doomed to repeat it.
Any narcotic dulls the senses and suppresses intelligence and crippling injuries
Stunning.
I think you mistake the tactics of Napoleon. His vision of battle was columns. It was the British who stood shoulder to shoulder and saved the modern world from tyranny.
Well the Prussians. the Austrians, the Russians had the men, the guns and the won battles. The English were in Spain, but in Spain was no Napoleon just french troops. Wellington had lost without the prussian army and Blucher saving the day. Not to mention an Austrian and Russian army was moving against France. So Napoleon was outnumbered 4 to one and had no chance even if he had won Waterloo.
All previous mentioned countries had lost battles and wars to the French and Napoleon except Wellingtons army.Prussian’s had even been beaten day before Waterloo at Ligny so don’t bang on about Blucher and Prussians they were a spent force.
Captain, it's a bit chilly. Can we come back in the springtime?
I am a keen student of history and I sure that Hood's first name was Robin and his army were called the merry men.
Didn't make sense to fight shooting into each other in long lines? Mental!
What's interesting to me after seeing this is that Hood's strategy of cutting off and decimating Schofield's army was pretty sound. But he was probably so high on opium/laudnum from the pain that he wasn't fit to make any battlefield adjustments fast enough to see it through.
Once a disagreement of two sides on an issue leads to war. Insanity has won the day. War has no winners . Ever
There is No true glory in war
I understand the overall outcome of the out of date tactics used at the time. But wouldn’t even firing your weapon from a one ☝🏾 knee position have been better than standing. Than rise and March forward and repeat? You had to have balls made of stainless steel not even brass to be able to stand there fire March reload and fire into murderous volleys of lead
I think hood COULD have been successful commanding an army before his injury at Gettysburg and was in constant pain getting loaded on that opiate tincture. Not that I blame him, i likely would have done the same put in his position in his health. I also believe the writing was pretty much on the wall by the time he got that army. Not only had Gettysburg taken place, Vicksburg fell and those were to the south what stalingrad and kursk were to the Germans. Idk if the south had the men and material to go north again if they wanted to. Or maybe I just have sympathy for Sam because I'm a naturally empathetic, understanding type of person.
At Franklin Hood was it is said," teaching his undisciplined Force a lesson " with the frontal assault. You maybe correct but his battplan was fatally flaws. 🎶 And now I'm heading southward, my heart is full of woe. I'm going back to Georgie to find my Uncle Joe. 🎶
🎶 you my talk a about your Beauregard a d sing of Bobby Lee, but the Gallant Hood of Texas sure played hell in Tennessee. 🎶
Gen. Forrest tried hard to talk Hood out of it , but was unfortunately, not successful
@@kencarney5456 Wow, that was really cool and I must admit at nearly 60 years old it's the first I've heard it. Impressive!
Sending in a final charge and lossing so many high ranking officer was a big mistake for General Hood . But , the General in charge was mad because of the Fedarals walked right by them the night earyeir .
You really should be using Grammarly.
I consider these profound films to be hallowed art and a warning from the past of ineffable import and gravitas. Axiomatic art.
Apparently you've never met anyone who "got the message" from art or learned from History's lessons.
When I saw the title, I immediately thought there had been another school massacre. Has there been a school shooting in Franklin? So many it's hard to keep track.
There were a lot of the big slave owners who pushed for this war. The guy who fired the first cannon shot at Fort Sumter was a big slave owner from Mississippi.
Edmund Ruffin from Virginia was credited with firing the first shot of the war at Fort Sumter.
There were also a lot of northern industrialists that wished to control the agricultural south who pushed for war,since free blacks and slaves were treated badly before, during and after the war by the north slaves and slavery were just an excuse
I found some of that history. Within an urban wastewater system.
Tool marks of slaves. Hired to build entrenchments. For the CSA
and USA. Slave owners were exempt from CSA conscription but
a gold-backed revenue was often quietly welcomed
Could’ve fought for months with the army hood was given. He mangled his own compatriots. Knowingly at that. How you beat an army to the punch just to let them march right by you during the night is unbelievable almost. Should’ve been Cleburne.Young, respected, battle tested, and brave. I always wondered why they didn’t just put the capitol of the confederacy in Texas? Plenty safe from an invading army. In my opinion.
"Unless under the protection of breastworks,... eradicating this evil. " He sounds like he's still made at Joe Johnson's battle strategy
130th ? ( 1864 ? ) this would have been filmed then in 1994 ? Nice Video
Q: "Hey! You guys wanna be in a movie?"
A: "Yeah! Cool!"
Q: "Don't get your uniforms dirty -- you'll look better on film."
A: "Are the tubby, bearded guys gonna be in it, too?
Q: "Yeah -- we need numbers for the battle scenes..."
And also Hood is a distant cousin of mine. His 3 great Aunt married my 4th Great Grandfather.
Why was fort Hood named for a poor - or at least very unlucky- General ?
Johnston couldn't have won the war, but he may have been able to defend Atlanta.
It's quite possible that holding Atlanta through the '64 election might have meant a Pres. McClellan and both a Conf. victory and the end of emancipation.
Possible, but unlikely.
That's the fun part of contrafactuals.
When the Atlanta Campaign Started in Dalton on may 7th 1864 Johnston was outnumbered 4 to 1. on July 17th of 1864 Sherman as lost over 30,000 men and Johnston losing not even half of that when hood replace Johnston it was 5:8 ratio. All Johnston had to do was keep what he was doing and slowly bleed Shermans army.
I do agree. Johnston was a good general, knowing that the war aught to be a defensive one. Enough of the stupidly over confident aggressive confederate generals. They all eventually met failure.
Or he would have kept evacuating until he got to Havana but seriously after he failed to do anything to relive Vicksburg I have doubts he would have not pulled out of Atlanta prematurely- more confidence in Hardee or Breckinridge
Franklin was also known as Pickett charge of the west
Roughly twice the scale in terms of the number engaged and length of the front.
@@Janetsfear wow
That’s what Shelby Foote said
Glad that General George Thomas, stayed in the Union, & his Service Proved his Loyalty to the United State's! His Virginia Family were "Upset", about it! Imagine if George had gone South, & fought for the C.S.A., there would not have been the "Rock of Chickamauga", & the Union Army would have been Destroyed there, But for the Rock?
Why did the soldiers pack themselves so close? Why didn't they spread out a little?
Southerner’s knew how bad it would be if they lost, and it was terrible during Reconstruction. It was horrible, postwar for the Southerns. I have my family’s diaries telling about wartime and postwar atrocities.
“Borders on reckless stupidity.” Well, yes.
HOODS medical records prove he was not on opiates after his injury and all his acquaintances agreed they never saw him take them.
Then he has no excuse for his tactical blunders - great division commander but poor corps commander and a disaster army commander- not as bad as Bragg of course
I researched this after reading your comment and it appears you are correct, very interesting thanks for posting 😁👍
I always felt sorry for Hood. Sally Preston did him wrong in my opinion.
@@stevewheatley243 Sally Preston was an 1860s "mean girl"
@@stevewheatley243 They say Sally Preston was cursed Every officer who fell in love with her was either killed or seriously wounded
Perhaps the last unexplored field of civil war study ..drug addiction amongst the generals ....
My gggrandfather fought every battle with jackson except for Chancellorsville,as he was escaping point lookout maryland pow camp
Benjamin Franklin Cheatham screwed Hood!! This film must be the original Battle of Franklin film, the re edit version is better.
The Battle of Franklin Five Hours in the Valley of Death. A Documentary Film About The Historical Civil War Battle. But this is 😎 cool to see. Cool this also takes place after Franklin also.
gee, the guys who made that stuff sure didn't like Hood lol
Trying to blame Napoleon for the devastating lethality of 1860s weaponry is a bit much.
16:07 - as usual a complete misunderstanding of Napoleonic tactics. Infantry tactics by the end of the Napoleonic wars was all about quick movement in columns, screened by large numbers of skirmishers. This was rarely done during the civil war.
Tactically the civil war was much closer to the 7 year war as fought Europe. Slow moving line trading fire at close range.
And the usual myth about the rifle musket. It simply don't matter than men have rifle muskets, when they never learned to use it at more than point blank range. None of the two sides implemented any sort of structured marksmanship program. And it takes serious training to hit anything with riflemusket at unknown ranges ourside of 150 yards.
The result is that the typical combatrange was about 100yards... well within effective smoothbore range.
Oh ok this is the first time the repeater rifle was first used. Oh man fell sorry for Johnny Reb. They didn't know. Paid for their lives in the thousands. Horrible
So I do enjoy this documentary but it’s somewhat outdated in its information, imo. This program takes some of the Central figures in this fight and makes some very glaring assumptions about their attitude and disposition. For Cause and For Country by Eric Jacobson I think gives some clarity on this. Fantastic read for any Franklin enthusiasts. Mr. Jacobson is the foremost authority on this battle.
War of attrition... The rifle musket was only used at longer ranges to a limited extent. The trajectory of the mini ball was so exaggerated, "like a modern shotgun "foster slug," that trajectory training for so many soldiers was impractical. That is why the shooting was generally withheld until the opposition was in the vicinity of 100 yards. "Buck and Ball" continued the preferred load, shot from smooth bore muskets and was effective out to 100 yards. Repeating lever action rifles were used towards the end of the war, but not as military issue, but were private purchases. Rifle muskets are "highly accurate at long ranges" only if the soldiers are trained to adjust for trajectory, which included formal training for judging distances, which they were not. The "mass assault" encountered most rifle fire when in the vicinity of 100 yards of the breastworks. I do not know the, then, trajectory of the lever action repeating rifle. Artillery has the most range.
(1) Remember JBH was a soldier and followed orders. (2) Remember that this was primarily an infantry war; in the infantry, the ground's features control the maneuvers and tactics. (3) JBH was a convenient scapegoat. Jefferson Davis knew that JBH's physical problems would force him to not perform a commanding general's job correctly. (4) Remember REL was successful when defending against Union generals who were invading. REL lost when he invaded - that was Gettysburg.
What THE hec!? A re run of Gettysburg! Hallo!
@ 5:32 IS that a Winchester 1866 I see being used in the recreation of the battle?, if so why? I thought 💭, rightly or wrongly, that the Winchester rifle descended from the Henry and even that rifle was not used or manufactured in large numbers. Obviously I could be wrong, as could Google, so please feel free to correct me, I don’t bite………..or at least not often, lol😊.
You are right neither Henry nor Winchester were bought by the US army in large quantities. They played no role for the outcome of the war.
It is a myth that Hood took Laudanum . Eric Jacobson author of two books on the Battle of Franklin found that not one person that knew Hood ever saw him take Laudanum. The myth was traced to a 1964 Magazine article with no evidence to back it up. It was just speculation. The night that Schofield snuck past Spring Hill Hood had ordered that road be blocked but the General that was assigned the task was ordered by another General to move east to link up with the rest of the units around Spring Hill. The unit moved a couple of hundred yards east of the road. If they hadn't moved the battle would have taken place at Spring Hill not Franklin. It is a good thing it did or my Gr Great Grandfather might have been killed in the 183rd Ohio Inf. on that road as his unit was the rear guard and I would not have been born.
Why? Just why?
Gen Hood... hold my beer
They do all they can to try to prove John bell hood was the mr brownstone of the confederate army. No matter what- the line broke at Franklin- but situations changed. I had family captured at Franklin - 39 Mississippi inf company I and another watching from winstead hill with 36 alabama
also the gatling gun was available,i don't think it was used.maybe if he had artillery barrage first
The Gatling Gun was unreliable in the Civil War, but it would see use in Africa against the Zulus.
Why was there a National Training fort named after Hood?
spooky music at the beginning, no credits for it though. shame
It's in the public domain. No credit requiired.
John bell Hood was one of the worst Generals ever . He got his men slaughtered on the field and many other battles he did the same . Sad these men had to die the way they did . Sherman said it best War is Hell and he was correct.
The maelstrom.
15:43 Thanks, that answers the question I have been having since kid every time I watched movies about battles in America. My apology I'd been calling the Americans stupid then
They marched north in he beginning of winter into a larger better supplied army. Oh well The intentions were noble Will they be defeated of freeze to death ?
Toured the Confederate Missouri grave sites in the Confederate Cemetary at Franklin a couple years ago. Paid
my respects.Not far from the antebellum home at Franklin. Most Missourians were fighting the union invaders
in their home State.
Hard to invade your own country.
Both Thomas and Hood were mediocre generals, Thomas prevailed because of superior numbers and a good defensive posirion. If John A. Logan had replaced him (as Grant planned), the slaughter would have been much worse.
Hood will burn in hell for eternity for what he ordered his army to do that day.
The emancipation proclamation did not end slavery
On a night before a battle and understanding this could b the last night of life prayers to god have to b real some of those confederate soldiers regetted the way they treated the blacks
I notice one thing, many of the confederate reinactors are way to heavy, by this time in the war, starvation for the south was a daily way of life. just look at the period pictures of the confederate troops.
too bad you dont tell about the living hell the river boats and the artillary did to the confederates as they advanced
Even as a Pennsylvanian, sometimes I wish I could grab these confederate generals and shake them, for attacking prepared positions over open ground time and again.
Murder
@@ottomeyer6928 indeed
I think every general officer in both army's were just cold blooded murderers of their own men. Great leadership demands adaptability to new situations. None of the generals on both sides, even by the end of the war were able to adapt to the changes in war technology.
Offense needs at least a 3 to 1 advantage before attacking a prepared position. Rebs didn't have close to the manpower needed. Reckless and stupid.
Hood was indeed a fighter but as good as he was at it, he wasn’t a good General from the perspective of tactics. His main strategy was frontal assault.
I see the sorrow. It's in the rebel uniform. Too much butternut. That's all captured federal clothes
Loyalty can lose a war between bragg and hood who's own staff hated them and davis wouldnt remove them no win situation