Im nervous this story isn’t confirmed. Outkick reported it but all the other coverage is international (or Reduxx) We need to get better confirmation. The mainstream media isn’t covering this even on the right. Maybe they’re having trouble confirming it’s real. I mean I agree he (she?) probably has 5-alpha reductase but is this “leak” real?
I found some redditor's in the Blocked and Reported thread doing some analysis on this: "The original source is a French investigative journalist who's worked with a number of publications including the Guardian and previously faced death threats for investigations into the French far right scene That's on top of the information already provided by Alan Abrahamson (an independent journalist who was the ghost writer for Phelps' biography) and Khelif's own team." (Nefarious-Bred) "Outside of Khelif directly issuing his medical report (which he won't do), we have to look at the evidence available through a common sense lens. And yes, the fact that Khelif won't directly refute the known allegations is relevant. IBA testing, IBA press conference, prior match disqualification without appeal, Khelif's own doctor and management statements, reputable journalists leaking medical records, lack of direct denial, etc. The allegations can be reasonably believed based on the preponderance of evidence." (adw802) " Following are quotes from her trainer from an interview with French media: "problem with her chromosomes and hormones, but she is a woman" (your boxer is not XX) "...woman, despite her karyotype and testosterone level" (your boxer is XY) "regulate testosterone levels, which are currently in the female range" (your boxer previously had man's levels of testosterone) ""Today, on a muscular and biological level, she can compare with a woman-woman-woman" (your boxer previously couldn't be compared to a woman on a biological level) www.lepoint.fr/monde/2024-olympics-imane-khelif-was-devastated-to-discover-out-of-the-blue-that-she-might-not-be-a-girl-14-08-2024-2567924_24.php#11 This boxer's own manager confirmed "very,very high levels of testosterone" in a TV interview, saying A "medical protocol" was used to treat this "anomaly", which is "under control". ruclips.net/video/zj0F9rd19uY/видео.html" (cemersever)
@@RayAlexWilliamsThank you for reporting on this! I've always been skeptical of the fact that Khelif would not just prove he's a female! It would be so simple.
@@laurabambam5342 Ending feminist equity would have solved this issue because equity policies started it . Women want to keep the equity that favours them like stealing ten of thousands of mens jobs lowering physical standards like in policing .
I have a lot of sympathy for anyone with DSD growing up thinking they are one sex before puberty and later discovering they are the opposite sex. I don’t think Imane should box women.
They'll correctly exclude Kelif stating that ppl with DSDs are not "Trans" while using ppl with DSDs to somehow justify medically transitioning vulnerable ppl and children.
@RayAlexWilliams I'm old enough to have spent time in gay bars in the 1990's and 2000's. Back in the day, LGBT folks could always be found in these places, along with groups of straight girls who just wanted to dance away from men with wandering hands. The ideological push of the current time has caused so much damage to the relationships between people who were once allies.
@@wolfhugs2221 that’s WHAT HAPPENS when a community doesn‘t call out bad actors… The homosexuals, espcally the gays had to fend off grooming and perversion accusations for decades, …one would have thought including f3ti$hists and paraphilia like AGPs and ˋMAPSˋ into the alphabet soup was bound to cause the normies to say …enough is enough! Women and children need protecting!
Yes, which is why I use he/him pronouns for Khelif. I’m willing to give him the benefit of the doubt but from what I’ve seen he’s not entirely innocent in all this.
In this case the money she was awarded for gold came from the Algerian government IIRC. As with other 5-ard athletes, there is an overwhelming likelihood Khelif will be heterosexual- ie female attracted. Which, in Algeria may well be considered homosexual as they are convinced she is a woman. Suspect the outcome of all this is Khelif takes the money and relocated to France.
Kelif would of known by age 18 when they did not begin their menses. A family doctor would of recommended a gynecologist that would of run blood work, did a pelvic exam and did an intervaginal sonogram of the pelvis to seek out why.
Two different labs, one in India and another in Turkey, established that Iman had male chromosoms. Iman can do another test and show us Iman is a female, but Iman doesn't.
I'm intersex and was an athlete in the start of my puberty. Since the first exam pointing high testosterone levels, my only option to keep competing was to take testosterone blockers. I can't see how Khelif would be able to compete with high testosterone levels, enven if she wasn't a pro boxer, hope there will be a better investigation in this case. I have some level of empathy with "her" tho, because I suffer from 21-hydroxylase deficiency, but I was really nervous, while doing tests, with the possibility of being male. I can only imagine how hard this must be when someone's socialized as a woman since birth, especially in a conservative country,
Thank you for sharing this information. As I was wondering: this sounds like an opportunity for corruption, you brought it up. I had never thought about that aspect. Duh.
Sports needs discreet sex screening for female category, with two primary exceptions, Swyer syndrome with no testes, and CAIS with no androgen sensitivity. But 5-ARD has full male advantage.
Ppl born with CAIS are Swyer are highly unlikely to compete in sports as their bodies do not respond to testosterone at all making it difficult for them to develop musculature required for most competitive sports. and ppl with CAH have other serious health issues due to their condition which would prevent them from athletic pursuits
Rowling rhymes with bowling. Thanks for this. How did you find this? It feels like it’s being suppressed by the RUclips algorithm and on google searches. I think we need to send this story to news outlets and get it in the radar.
@@RayAlexWilliams they are often scouted by unscrupulous athletic recruiters in less developed countries for this very reason as they will nearly always secure wins and the financial and public benefits that go with that.
@@RayAlexWilliams One reason males with 5-ARD often "experience increased effects of testosterone" when they're babies and all the rest of their lives is that many of them produce a lot more of the stuff in/from their testes in the first place. T levels in the blood of 5-ARD adult males who've been tested vary widely, but the highest level published in a scientific paper is 47.2 nmol/L. The normal T level range for healthy adult males is 7.7-29.3 nmol/L.
I think you left out "the patriarchy" in your closing statement. That's a big one, because nothing fights "the patriarchy" more than a man taking a spot from a woman in an athletic competition.
Is it really a big deal that this news is not picked up on by the TRA community... who cares.. but it will heavily spread and reinforce the GC reaffirmation of woman rights.
To me Imane Kalif doesn’t look particularly manly imo. Sure she doesn’t look very feminine, very few women who compete in combat sports do. I know loads of female athletes who are much more muscular. If anything this does highlight the impact of genetic advantages some people have in elite sports. I hear people complaining that this disadvantages their daughter blah blah blah, but let’s just cut the crap, bottom line is that you have to hit the genetic lottery to be at the top of an elite sport. Everyone else it doing it for the love.
❤ Big of you to say this, here. I think it's like drawing a line in the sand between showing up to a boxing match saying "I don't wanna get hit by a man!" and "I don't wanna get hit EVER". The distinction is moot. "What is a man" is largely dependent on what criteria are used by whichever Institution, it's ever-changing. It's never measured based on what "the individual" is capable of, or rigorous testing of the individual's capabilities to fit them into binary-specific groups
You watch elite men's sports to see the best men compete. You watch elite women's sports to see the best women compete. You do not watch elite women's sports to see third rate male competitors cheat their way to medals.
@@strykerpass600 I took weight lifting in highschool. I had female friends who went on to become body builders. Khalif has a different Q angle and makes room for a bulge.
I appreciate your nuanced approach in seeking truth and happiness for ‘your kind’, yet I observe the black-and-white thinking you often criticize. Transitioning from a trans rights activist to the opposite spectrum risks trapping you in another echo chamber. With your background, you have the potential to bridge divides, which would be far more valuable than merely echoing gender-critical, bio-essentialist views. As a philosopher and liberal, do you find it justifiable to reclassify someone who has grown up with female genitals, lived as female, and has been treated and socialized as such, to be labeled a ‘man’ against their will due to a biological condition like 5-ARD? It appears somewhat oblivious to assert categorically that assigning ‘female’ at birth is a mistake. A more thorough investigation into intersex conditions could have broadened your perspective before making such sweeping generalizations. Furthermore, the discourse surrounding intersex athletes often neglects wider fairness issues in sports. Aren’t the broader aspects of fairness compelling enough to merit deeper examination? Here is a list of various advantages in sports that often go unaddressed or are even celebrated: • Limb length in swimming • Fast-twitch muscle fibers in sprinting • Endurance genetics in distance running • Body type in gymnastics • Flexibility in figure skating • Hand-eye coordination in baseball • Visual acuity in shooting sports • Oxygen efficiency in high-altitude sports • Anaerobic capacity in weightlifting • Thermal regulation in marathon running • Pain tolerance in endurance sports • Bone density in contact sports • Metabolic efficiency in cycling • Neural reaction speed in motorsports • Balance in surfing and snowboarding • Psychological resilience in competitive sports • Socioeconomic factors Physical and neurological conditions significantly impact fairness in sports by influencing athletes’ abilities across various domains-motor control, coordination, cognitive processing speeds, sensory processing, reaction times, muscle tone, endurance, pain perception, and emotional regulation. It seems particularly unfair to single out intersex conditions when so many factors influence athletic performance. If our goal is to achieve ‘real’ fairness, shouldn’t our discussions be more comprehensive, considering all factors that tilt the playing field, rather than focusing narrowly on intersex athletes alone? A more inclusive approach could lead to fairer competition for everyone, rather than unfairly targeting a select few.
>>>> • Limb length in swimming • Fast-twitch muscle fibers in sprinting • Endurance genetics in distance running • Body type in gymnastics • Flexibility in figure skating • Hand-eye coordination in baseball • Visual acuity in shooting sports • Oxygen efficiency in high-altitude sports • Anaerobic capacity in weightlifting • Thermal regulation in marathon running • Pain tolerance in endurance sports • Bone density in contact sports • Metabolic efficiency in cycling • Neural reaction speed in motorsports • Balance in surfing and snowboarding • Psychological resilience in competitive sports • Socioeconomic factors This is impractical and therefore an immediate deadend. Imagine a sports league that attempted to pre-screen and biologically measure all these different factors and sort them into categories such that people with "low balance" compete against other "low balance" people. It's completely impractical to consider measuring all these different variables. And nobody would watch it. Nobody watches to watch a sports league only for people with long limbs and a another sports league for people with short limbs. There'd be no money. No one would watch. People are interested in watching the BEST MALES compete. Period. And the male category is more like an open category. Let the best compete. The idea of a basketball league that had 5'5 people play agianst each other and 7'0 people play against each other would be a dumb idea. Nobody would watch it. Male vs female is the most fundamental and primordial and logical and practical division and has reflects actual biological reality.
>>>As a philosopher and liberal, do you find it justifiable to reclassify someone who has grown up with female genitals, lived as female, and has been treated and socialized as such, to be labeled a ‘man’ against their will due to a biological condition like 5-ARD? It is a matter of principled definition that man = adult human male. There is no other coherent definition of that term. Socially, it might be ok to treat men AS IF they are women for politeness but at the end of the day they are still men. As for Khelif, there is good evidence to think Khelif knew he was male, did not follow the strict social and dressing rules for Islamic females post-puberty, rumors his family used he/him pronouns on social media. He does not act the same as a female in an Islamic country. He was given way more leeway and acted as a male does. Considering the corruption in these sports organizations, there's good reason to think this is a cynical cash grab. He knew he was male and still decided to compete against females. His coach knew too.
@@RayAlexWilliams With the advancements in current technology, we have the capacity to develop more sophisticated and equitable models for assessing athletic performance. By employing regression analysis and enhancing it with machine learning algorithms, we can quantify the influence of various physiological and environmental factors on athletes. For example, consider a swimming race between Michael, who is 6’4” with superior limb efficiency, and Alex, who is 5’10” and technically skilled. Michael finishes the race in 1:42.00, scoring a perfect 10 on the Time Score for speed, while Alex finishes close behind at 1:43.00, scoring 9.5. However, Alex’s technical prowess, including turn efficiency and stroke, earns him a 10 on the Technical Score, compared to Michael’s 8. To compute the final Weighted Composite Score, with 60% weight on the Time Score and 40% on the Technical Score, Michael’s score calculates to 10*0.6 + 8*0.4 = 9.2, and Alex’s score comes out to 9.5*0.6 + 10*0.4 = 9.7. Despite Michael’s speed, Alex’s superior technique gives him a slight edge overall, showing a balanced evaluation of speed and skill. There are already existing categories like weight classes or age groups, we would have even greater refinement and accuracy. Professionals in the field can develop advanced models to enhance fairness and inclusivity in sports. I don’t think it would decrease the views, it could be even more interesting.
@@RayAlexWilliams I don’t think Algeria enforces a dresscode for women so Imane might have a non conforming look if desired. It does not mean she saw herself as a man and thus presented masculine.
@@RayAlexWilliams definitely not a reliable source. they just repost anything they find on the internet that fits their female-supremacist agenda. or it must be legit because it's in French?
Predictable denialism. Cope harder. If Reduxx wasnt reliable journalism it wouldnt have been cited in a recent Alabama Supreme Court amicus brief. They are definitely biased but it's solid reporting.
@@RayAlexWilliamsagreed. They'd have been sued out of existence with the stuff they report on if it wasn't solidly researched and backed up with evidence.
As a sex realist I still try to listen to both perspectives, trying to understand why things are happening even if I personally might not feel comfortable about men who have their sexuality altered by the amount of bad corn they have watched, I also really respect anybody sticking their neck out trying to speak truth, especially when most people want to put a big TABOO on anything ‚unsavory‘. I‘d rather know why, how, and what to do about it if anything
Im nervous this story isn’t confirmed. Outkick reported it but all the other coverage is international (or Reduxx) We need to get better confirmation. The mainstream media isn’t covering this even on the right. Maybe they’re having trouble confirming it’s real. I mean I agree he (she?) probably has 5-alpha reductase but is this “leak” real?
I found some redditor's in the Blocked and Reported thread doing some analysis on this:
"The original source is a French investigative journalist who's worked with a number of publications including the Guardian and previously faced death threats for investigations into the French far right scene
That's on top of the information already provided by Alan Abrahamson (an independent journalist who was the ghost writer for Phelps' biography) and Khelif's own team." (Nefarious-Bred)
"Outside of Khelif directly issuing his medical report (which he won't do), we have to look at the evidence available through a common sense lens. And yes, the fact that Khelif won't directly refute the known allegations is relevant. IBA testing, IBA press conference, prior match disqualification without appeal, Khelif's own doctor and management statements, reputable journalists leaking medical records, lack of direct denial, etc.
The allegations can be reasonably believed based on the preponderance of evidence." (adw802)
" Following are quotes from her trainer from an interview with French media:
"problem with her chromosomes and hormones, but she is a woman" (your boxer is not XX)
"...woman, despite her karyotype and testosterone level" (your boxer is XY)
"regulate testosterone levels, which are currently in the female range" (your boxer previously had man's levels of testosterone)
""Today, on a muscular and biological level, she can compare with a woman-woman-woman" (your boxer previously couldn't be compared to a woman on a biological level)
www.lepoint.fr/monde/2024-olympics-imane-khelif-was-devastated-to-discover-out-of-the-blue-that-she-might-not-be-a-girl-14-08-2024-2567924_24.php#11
This boxer's own manager confirmed "very,very high levels of testosterone" in a TV interview, saying A "medical protocol" was used to treat this "anomaly", which is "under control".
ruclips.net/video/zj0F9rd19uY/видео.html" (cemersever)
@@RayAlexWilliamsThank you for reporting on this! I've always been skeptical of the fact that Khelif would not just prove he's a female! It would be so simple.
@@ainnochaim9450 agreed. Just releasing the medical data would be so easy.
Even if Khalif didn't know at puberty, he knew a year before the Olympics and he still fought women.
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Yep. He's a man prepared to beat up women.
And he did know at puberty and so did everyone close to him. The sporting bodies that sets Ted and trained him should be named and shamed too.
Exactly
@@laurabambam5342 Ending feminist equity would have solved this issue because equity policies started it .
Women want to keep the equity that favours them like stealing ten of thousands of mens jobs lowering physical standards like in policing .
I have a lot of sympathy for anyone with DSD growing up thinking they are one sex before puberty and later discovering they are the opposite sex. I don’t think Imane should box women.
. TRAs will say Khelif isn’t trans, BUT Khelif presented as female when entering Olympics in full knowledge that it did not correspond with natal sex.
Men with 5ARD are born appearing as female and raised as girls. Google guevedoces in the Dominican Republic.
They'll correctly exclude Kelif stating that ppl with DSDs are not "Trans" while using ppl with DSDs to somehow justify medically transitioning vulnerable ppl and children.
It's insane that he was looking at suing JKR and Elon Musk. One way or another, this information would have got out into the public.
Gender ideology and trans activism emboldens the worst entitlement.
@RayAlexWilliams I'm old enough to have spent time in gay bars in the 1990's and 2000's. Back in the day, LGBT folks could always be found in these places, along with groups of straight girls who just wanted to dance away from men with wandering hands. The ideological push of the current time has caused so much damage to the relationships between people who were once allies.
@@wolfhugs2221 that’s WHAT HAPPENS when a community doesn‘t call out bad actors…
The homosexuals, espcally the gays had to fend off grooming and perversion accusations for decades, …one would have thought including f3ti$hists and paraphilia like AGPs and ˋMAPSˋ into the alphabet soup was bound to cause the normies to say …enough is enough!
Women and children need protecting!
He was never going to sue anyone.
@@XxYwise thank you
Imane definitely knows he's male. As you say, it's all about corruption -- grab the money and run.
Yes, which is why I use he/him pronouns for Khelif. I’m willing to give him the benefit of the doubt but from what I’ve seen he’s not entirely innocent in all this.
The article said that, "Khelif was placed on testosterone suppressants following the 2023 medical assesment." He knew.
In this case the money she was awarded for gold came from the Algerian government IIRC. As with other 5-ard athletes, there is an overwhelming likelihood Khelif will be heterosexual- ie female attracted. Which, in Algeria may well be considered homosexual as they are convinced she is a woman. Suspect the outcome of all this is Khelif takes the money and relocated to France.
@@grieffoundation8451 many boys born with 5-ARD are afab and undergo amputation of their underdeveloped penis.
It’s a lot of praise and money to turn down. Isn’t he on the cover of vogue arabia??
Thanks for covering this. Nobody else is. The MSN article has been removed and Google is hiding the story in its search.
Kelif would of known by age 18 when they did not begin their menses. A family doctor would of recommended a gynecologist that would of run blood work, did a pelvic exam and did an intervaginal sonogram of the pelvis to seek out why.
Not necessarily - healthcare isn’t always accessible in Algeria, and khelif grew up impoverished.
@@benababasthis exactly. Algeria is a poor country
Two different labs, one in India and another in Turkey, established that Iman had male chromosoms. Iman can do another test and show us Iman is a female, but Iman doesn't.
And he never will because he knows the truth
I'm intersex and was an athlete in the start of my puberty. Since the first exam pointing high testosterone levels, my only option to keep competing was to take testosterone blockers. I can't see how Khelif would be able to compete with high testosterone levels, enven if she wasn't a pro boxer, hope there will be a better investigation in this case. I have some level of empathy with "her" tho, because I suffer from 21-hydroxylase deficiency, but I was really nervous, while doing tests, with the possibility of being male. I can only imagine how hard this must be when someone's socialized as a woman since birth, especially in a conservative country,
It's better to be a man in Algeria than a woman.
But in the male category, he's never going to be an Olympian.
Shocking?! 😂 Gurl, we been knew!
Truly grateful this is out, and it's so funny/sad to me that his name is literally I-man(e) lmao he was telling everyone all along!!
Wait until you meet Caster Semenya!
Thank you for sharing this information. As I was wondering: this sounds like an opportunity for corruption, you brought it up. I had never thought about that aspect. Duh.
Turns out evolutionary biologist Colin Wright was right (no pun intended).
Sports needs discreet sex screening for female category, with two primary exceptions, Swyer syndrome with no testes, and CAIS with no androgen sensitivity. But 5-ARD has full male advantage.
Agreed
Ppl born with CAIS are Swyer are highly unlikely to compete in sports as their bodies do not respond to testosterone at all making it difficult for them to develop musculature required for most competitive sports. and ppl with CAH have other serious health issues due to their condition which would prevent them from athletic pursuits
More great work. You're fastly becoming one of my favorite voices of reason❤
Thank you! Appreciate that
Thanks Ray.
About time this came out
Rowling rhymes with bowling.
Thanks for this. How did you find this? It feels like it’s being suppressed by the RUclips algorithm and on google searches. I think we need to send this story to news outlets and get it in the radar.
I saw it on Twitter this morning
Reduxx broke the news
What is a Imane Khelif? Imane khelif is anyone who identifies as a Imane Khelif.
😉
🤣
Vaush be like
Baby boys born with 5-ARD often experience increased effects of testosterone over regular males.
I didnt know that!
@@RayAlexWilliams they are often scouted by unscrupulous athletic recruiters in less developed countries for this very reason as they will nearly always secure wins and the financial and public benefits that go with that.
@@RayAlexWilliams One reason males with 5-ARD often "experience increased effects of testosterone" when they're babies and all the rest of their lives is that many of them produce a lot more of the stuff in/from their testes in the first place. T levels in the blood of 5-ARD adult males who've been tested vary widely, but the highest level published in a scientific paper is 47.2 nmol/L. The normal T level range for healthy adult males is 7.7-29.3 nmol/L.
haven't really followed this news item but a person who thinks/wants to be female pursues a sport that is primarily male orientated??
4:08 "doctors suggested Khelif's parents may have been blood relatives." holy moly, he's an incest baby!
Thanks!
Thank you 🙏
I think you left out "the patriarchy" in your closing statement. That's a big one, because nothing fights "the patriarchy" more than a man taking a spot from a woman in an athletic competition.
Is it really a big deal that this news is not picked up on by the TRA community... who cares.. but it will heavily spread and reinforce the GC reaffirmation of woman rights.
if i had elon money i sue the boxing commission the boxer and all staff who lied
hes tried.
Took the press long enough…no surprise there…duh!
To its kind he beat women and won a medal that he didn't have to, he has taken millions of people for you this is this for you ...
Omg i can't believe he is not a woman😂😂
I know I almost spit out my coffee this morning upon learning of this shocking revelation 😂
@@RayAlexWilliams ..lol
I anticipate a swift retreat to the Phelps Gambit.
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and its companion, "hey did you know [NBA basketball player] had a height advantage"
Vindication!!
Finally 🙄
wow absolutely surprising
we have the same stutter. two thoughts coming out at once yes?
Dunno lol I’ve stuttered since childhood
Can we please pronounce them tess-ti-cleez?
To me Imane Kalif doesn’t look particularly manly imo. Sure she doesn’t look very feminine, very few women who compete in combat sports do. I know loads of female athletes who are much more muscular. If anything this does highlight the impact of genetic advantages some people have in elite sports. I hear people complaining that this disadvantages their daughter blah blah blah, but let’s just cut the crap, bottom line is that you have to hit the genetic lottery to be at the top of an elite sport. Everyone else it doing it for the love.
❤ Big of you to say this, here. I think it's like drawing a line in the sand between showing up to a boxing match saying "I don't wanna get hit by a man!" and "I don't wanna get hit EVER". The distinction is moot. "What is a man" is largely dependent on what criteria are used by whichever Institution, it's ever-changing. It's never measured based on what "the individual" is capable of, or rigorous testing of the individual's capabilities to fit them into binary-specific groups
You watch elite men's sports to see the best men compete. You watch elite women's sports to see the best women compete. You do not watch elite women's sports to see third rate male competitors cheat their way to medals.
You should see the way he walks. Women don't walk like that.
@@ellisdunegan you obviously have never been to a CrossFit gym.
@@strykerpass600 I took weight lifting in highschool. I had female friends who went on to become body builders. Khalif has a different Q angle and makes room for a bulge.
Ha Ha! Russian propaganda?! HEH
i hope they won't take away her gold medal because it would mean that China won the medal table
I appreciate your nuanced approach in seeking truth and happiness for ‘your kind’, yet I observe the black-and-white thinking you often criticize. Transitioning from a trans rights activist to the opposite spectrum risks trapping you in another echo chamber. With your background, you have the potential to bridge divides, which would be far more valuable than merely echoing gender-critical, bio-essentialist views.
As a philosopher and liberal, do you find it justifiable to reclassify someone who has grown up with female genitals, lived as female, and has been treated and socialized as such, to be labeled a ‘man’ against their will due to a biological condition like 5-ARD? It appears somewhat oblivious to assert categorically that assigning ‘female’ at birth is a mistake. A more thorough investigation into intersex conditions could have broadened your perspective before making such sweeping generalizations.
Furthermore, the discourse surrounding intersex athletes often neglects wider fairness issues in sports. Aren’t the broader aspects of fairness compelling enough to merit deeper examination? Here is a list of various advantages in sports that often go unaddressed or are even celebrated:
• Limb length in swimming
• Fast-twitch muscle fibers in sprinting
• Endurance genetics in distance running
• Body type in gymnastics
• Flexibility in figure skating
• Hand-eye coordination in baseball
• Visual acuity in shooting sports
• Oxygen efficiency in high-altitude sports
• Anaerobic capacity in weightlifting
• Thermal regulation in marathon running
• Pain tolerance in endurance sports
• Bone density in contact sports
• Metabolic efficiency in cycling
• Neural reaction speed in motorsports
• Balance in surfing and snowboarding
• Psychological resilience in competitive sports
• Socioeconomic factors
Physical and neurological conditions significantly impact fairness in sports by influencing athletes’ abilities across various domains-motor control, coordination, cognitive processing speeds, sensory processing, reaction times, muscle tone, endurance, pain perception, and emotional regulation.
It seems particularly unfair to single out intersex conditions when so many factors influence athletic performance. If our goal is to achieve ‘real’ fairness, shouldn’t our discussions be more comprehensive, considering all factors that tilt the playing field, rather than focusing narrowly on intersex athletes alone? A more inclusive approach could lead to fairer competition for everyone, rather than unfairly targeting a select few.
>>>>
• Limb length in swimming
• Fast-twitch muscle fibers in sprinting
• Endurance genetics in distance running
• Body type in gymnastics
• Flexibility in figure skating
• Hand-eye coordination in baseball
• Visual acuity in shooting sports
• Oxygen efficiency in high-altitude sports
• Anaerobic capacity in weightlifting
• Thermal regulation in marathon running
• Pain tolerance in endurance sports
• Bone density in contact sports
• Metabolic efficiency in cycling
• Neural reaction speed in motorsports
• Balance in surfing and snowboarding
• Psychological resilience in competitive sports
• Socioeconomic factors
This is impractical and therefore an immediate deadend. Imagine a sports league that attempted to pre-screen and biologically measure all these different factors and sort them into categories such that people with "low balance" compete against other "low balance" people. It's completely impractical to consider measuring all these different variables. And nobody would watch it. Nobody watches to watch a sports league only for people with long limbs and a another sports league for people with short limbs. There'd be no money. No one would watch. People are interested in watching the BEST MALES compete. Period. And the male category is more like an open category. Let the best compete. The idea of a basketball league that had 5'5 people play agianst each other and 7'0 people play against each other would be a dumb idea. Nobody would watch it. Male vs female is the most fundamental and primordial and logical and practical division and has reflects actual biological reality.
>>>As a philosopher and liberal, do you find it justifiable to reclassify someone who has grown up with female genitals, lived as female, and has been treated and socialized as such, to be labeled a ‘man’ against their will due to a biological condition like 5-ARD?
It is a matter of principled definition that man = adult human male. There is no other coherent definition of that term. Socially, it might be ok to treat men AS IF they are women for politeness but at the end of the day they are still men. As for Khelif, there is good evidence to think Khelif knew he was male, did not follow the strict social and dressing rules for Islamic females post-puberty, rumors his family used he/him pronouns on social media. He does not act the same as a female in an Islamic country. He was given way more leeway and acted as a male does. Considering the corruption in these sports organizations, there's good reason to think this is a cynical cash grab. He knew he was male and still decided to compete against females. His coach knew too.
@@RayAlexWilliams With the advancements in current technology, we have the capacity to develop more sophisticated and equitable models for assessing athletic performance. By employing regression analysis and enhancing it with machine learning algorithms, we can quantify the influence of various physiological and environmental factors on athletes. For example, consider a swimming race between Michael, who is 6’4” with superior limb efficiency, and Alex, who is 5’10” and technically skilled. Michael finishes the race in 1:42.00, scoring a perfect 10 on the Time Score for speed, while Alex finishes close behind at 1:43.00, scoring 9.5. However, Alex’s technical prowess, including turn efficiency and stroke, earns him a 10 on the Technical Score, compared to Michael’s 8.
To compute the final Weighted Composite Score, with 60% weight on the Time Score and 40% on the Technical Score, Michael’s score calculates to 10*0.6 + 8*0.4 = 9.2, and Alex’s score comes out to 9.5*0.6 + 10*0.4 = 9.7. Despite Michael’s speed, Alex’s superior technique gives him a slight edge overall, showing a balanced evaluation of speed and skill. There are already existing categories like weight classes or age groups, we would have even greater refinement and accuracy. Professionals in the field can develop advanced models to enhance fairness and inclusivity in sports. I don’t think it would decrease the views, it could be even more interesting.
@@RayAlexWilliams I don’t think Algeria enforces a dresscode for women so Imane might have a non conforming look if desired. It does not mean she saw herself as a man and thus presented masculine.
why do you read that hate site?
Why do you hate facts?
@@RayAlexWilliams definitely not a reliable source. they just repost anything they find on the internet that fits their female-supremacist agenda. or it must be legit because it's in French?
Predictable denialism. Cope harder. If Reduxx wasnt reliable journalism it wouldnt have been cited in a recent Alabama Supreme Court amicus brief. They are definitely biased but it's solid reporting.
@@RayAlexWilliamsagreed. They'd have been sued out of existence with the stuff they report on if it wasn't solidly researched and backed up with evidence.
As a sex realist I still try to listen to both perspectives, trying to understand why things are happening even if I personally might not feel comfortable about men who have their sexuality altered by the amount of bad corn they have watched, I also really respect anybody sticking their neck out trying to speak truth, especially when most people want to put a big TABOO on anything ‚unsavory‘.
I‘d rather know why, how, and what to do about it if anything