1:04:10 Chesterton opined that all stories come down to the Knight, the Lady and the Dragon. I would only add that each of us is the Knight, the Lady and the Dragon in the story of our own becoming.
Nate.. I'm so behind on the Arthurian World! I got pulled deep into a re-reading of Dante and can't get to much else until that's done. Hopefully when I'm back from my trip (Sept 10th) I'll be free to turn to other things. I think Lilith has to be next though, thanks to Shari. Anyway, maybe you can be my Virgil(haha). What do I start with? Chrétien de Troyes?
Luke, Thanks. You picked up on me speaking truth there! I'm listening to your stuff. And I'm thinking (d/t you and Cassidy) I'm going to really like Barbi! I'll let you know. Also, I will mention you to Job!
Sink or swim I’m diving in I’m going deep Head over my head I wanna be Caught in the rush Lost in the flow Head over my head I want to go The rivers deep The rivers wide The rivers water is alive So, sink or swim.
@@61jcfield I’m finding his newest work on the Absolute Unknowing: Nothing Can Save Us to be very intriguing. I can’t remember if that’s exactly the right name of the book. But the main idea is that unknowing is ontic going all the way down into God.
43:00 shamans who see the incarnational aspects of reality. It’s actually what it is. I made a video about eminence and emergence about this yesterday. Fyi. 😁
31:10 This would make sense, because he is also explicitly quoting the universalist mystic Julian of Norwich, so if he's quoting Julian of Norwich and lifting images from Lilith, then it's an explicitly universalist poem.
I'll stick with it, despite my reaction to Dr Jim's expression about God needing our forgiveness. I think I know what he is wanting to say, but I am sure that's not the right way to put it. We need to understand God's ways, not "forgive" Him. Forgiveness is not something that God requires, as He is perfect and without fault or guilt. The issue is on our side; our need to understand God's wisdom in what He allows us to suffer.
@@shari6063 Thank you for making me aware of MacDonald's snowdrop poem. I have always loved snowdrops and taken poetic and prayerful inspiration from them, writing my own poor verses.
@@anselman3156 the essay is called “ George MacDonald and T.S. Elliot: Further Consideration by John Pennington. I don’t think I can link it here. But you can Google it and it should come up.
I had put a reply in here a day ago and now it is gone? 😕 The author of the paper was John Pennington and if you Google MacDonald and Eliot it should come up Anselman. Did you receive the first reply?
The rose fire is such an obvious Sophianic/Marian image regardless of what George was willing to say about it, he was irritatingly protestant at times in his views on Mary.
I think he had a deeper understanding of Mary than average Mariology. He always pushes back on the status quo. He seeks to take us deeper. No one really knows what George thought about the rose fire. He doesn’t ever say.
@@shari6063 I was thinking it’s the rose fire because if you look at (into) the fire long enough, you will see the roses. But then I remembers the jungle book! “Give me the power of man’s red flower.”
1:04:10 Chesterton opined that all stories come down to the Knight, the Lady and the Dragon. I would only add that each of us is the Knight, the Lady and the Dragon in the story of our own becoming.
Nate.. I'm so behind on the Arthurian World! I got pulled deep into a re-reading of Dante and can't get to much else until that's done. Hopefully when I'm back from my trip (Sept 10th) I'll be free to turn to other things. I think Lilith has to be next though, thanks to Shari. Anyway, maybe you can be my Virgil(haha). What do I start with? Chrétien de Troyes?
13:26 “I don’t believe the things I say…a costume” (potential) ❤
Luke, Thanks. You picked up on me speaking truth there! I'm listening to your stuff. And I'm thinking (d/t you and Cassidy) I'm going to really like Barbi! I'll let you know. Also, I will mention you to Job!
1:25:45
This might be one of the best monologues I’ve heard all year. Thanks Shari
I gotta watch the movie Annihilation again. I think it address what the feminine lacks.
@@almondtreethe feminine lacks the masculine and vice versa.
46:00 Dr Jim says the word Jon and a wild Jess is summoned!
8:30 feelings are not graspable. They’re spirit, in a way.
1:10:40 chaos is a womb
Yes it is.
Sink or swim
I’m diving in
I’m going deep
Head over my head I wanna be
Caught in the rush
Lost in the flow
Head over my head
I want to go
The rivers deep
The rivers wide
The rivers water is alive
So, sink or swim.
You are great.
@@WhiteStoneNamemiss you
What dr. Jim brings up at 1:24:15 and following is ❤. Peter Rollins? Ontic Unknowing.
God’s greatest claim on us is that we make a claim on Him.
I was a bit into Rollins 4-5 years ago. Pyrotheology and all that... I don't turn back to it much but I've definitly carried some of it with me since.
@@61jcfield I’m finding his newest work on the Absolute Unknowing: Nothing Can Save Us to be very intriguing. I can’t remember if that’s exactly the right name of the book. But the main idea is that unknowing is ontic going all the way down into God.
43:00 shamans who see the incarnational aspects of reality.
It’s actually what it is.
I made a video about eminence and emergence about this yesterday. Fyi. 😁
43:00 Divided Man (un)consciousness
45:43 Jess returns!
I'm back, baby!
31:10 This would make sense, because he is also explicitly quoting the universalist mystic Julian of Norwich, so if he's quoting Julian of Norwich and lifting images from Lilith, then it's an explicitly universalist poem.
I think so too Nate.
1:26:55 a womb needs a seed to do what a womb does.
That intro, wow!
Dr. Jim’s channel please?
Thanks- awesome discussion ❤
ruclips.net/video/R6L6mR6c-Io/видео.html - not much there; hope,to produce more in the future.
@@61jcfield Thank you good sir!
15:10 I was gonna comment “confessionalism”, but then Jess did it for me. 😂😊
@@phlebas9204good. But not in a confessionalist spirit.
The rose and the fire both symbolize passion (maybe zeal?)
Love, both romantic (song of songs, marriage supper of the lamb) and powerfully “destructive”.
I'll stick with it, despite my reaction to Dr Jim's expression about God needing our forgiveness. I think I know what he is wanting to say, but I am sure that's not the right way to put it. We need to understand God's ways, not "forgive" Him. Forgiveness is not something that God requires, as He is perfect and without fault or guilt. The issue is on our side; our need to understand God's wisdom in what He allows us to suffer.
I definitely picked the spiciest clip to start this one. 😁
I’m glad you decided to stick with it! That’s what I love about you.
@@shari6063 What is the essay you referred to, suggesting an influence of MacDonald's "lilith" on Eliot, and who is the author?
@@shari6063 Thank you for making me aware of MacDonald's snowdrop poem. I have always loved snowdrops and taken poetic and prayerful inspiration from them, writing my own poor verses.
@@anselman3156 the essay is called “ George MacDonald and T.S. Elliot: Further Consideration by John Pennington. I don’t think I can link it here. But you can Google it and it should come up.
What was the essay which alleged the influence of MacDonald's "liith" on T S Eliot, and who was its author?
I had put a reply in here a day ago and now it is gone? 😕 The author of the paper was John Pennington and if you Google MacDonald and Eliot it should come up Anselman.
Did you receive the first reply?
Thanks, Shari. I did not get the first reply. YT can be funny at times! @@shari6063
Say hi to Job for me, Dr. Jim.
The rose fire is such an obvious Sophianic/Marian image regardless of what George was willing to say about it, he was irritatingly protestant at times in his views on Mary.
I think he had a deeper understanding of Mary than average Mariology. He always pushes back on the status quo. He seeks to take us deeper. No one really knows what George thought about the rose fire. He doesn’t ever say.
@@shari6063
I was thinking it’s the rose fire because if you look at (into) the fire long enough, you will see the roses.
But then I remembers the jungle book! “Give me the power of man’s red flower.”
Rosary - the burning bush.
First!
Woo!