That's a very nice movie prop. Your restoration made it look pretty authentic. The differences between the Grant and Sherman hulls aren't that obvious, most people would never notice.
Looks like a Marine-proof tank to me. Crayons Ready-to-Eat. Thanks for this. Well done. Important to have these Frankensteins for use in movies -- preserving, protecting, and maintaining the remaining prized relics. Nice opportunity to highlight foundational differences in types.
I'm surprised to see you here again (LOL) but I totally agree @davidk7324. All sorts of movies have used replicas or mocked up vehicles - the Tiger in Kelly's Heroes comes to mind. I like it that they're being honest here and not trying to pass it off as the real thing. I'm sure I'll catch you back at @WW2TV, and perhaps you might be able to hook someone up from this wonderful museum to chat with Woody?
Thanks for answering the neutral steer question. I didn't expect it to have one for such a build, but as an old and retired Armor Officer, I was sure curious. Armor yellow crayons have the best flavor. Artillery red is a distant second.
A great movie prop and great to see it still survives and is appreciated…I posted late last night some history of this tank but it seems my post may have been deleted..there was a reference to Australian customs and a small tribute to those who lost there lives in 9 11……I guess I got cancelled ..anyhow… I may have upstairs in a old photo album some photos of the build we did here in Australia…we were very proud of the team that built it…if you guys would like some original photos I will see if we can find them and send them off to the museum
That is a magnificent piece of work! The Australians got a surprising number of Lees, (they were surplused to farmers, and they are scattered all over the place) so this sort of conversion made sense; the Oz Armour museum has a lot of information on them. Thanks for explaining the markings; I couldn't get past them. 8:45 HA!! 😂
Very good restoration and presentation. I was a US Army Reserve member after my 2 years as a Draftee. I taught 19D recruits how to drive various version of M113 APC lots of fun. I also was able to get into through the escape hatch of a M4A1 Sherman at Ft Lewis Washington except for the escape hatch missing it was in very good condition inside. I also got to ride in a M7 Howitzer Motor Carriage near Rockford Illinois when my unit was on a recruiting mission. That one was privately owned with the Howitzer removed at that time.
Just a thought you want to see the input shaft visually to ensure it has sopped rotation why not cut a port hole into the cover (which really is nothing more than a tin scatter shield by the looks of it. and bolt or screw a clear plastic plate over top just make it a thicker plexi-glass to compensate for being plastic not tin
When they were retired from Army service a lot of the Grants were bought by farmers, attacked with a gas-axe and turned into improvised bulldozers/tractors and used to clear land. Once they were done with them, they were abandoned in the bush. I wouldn't be surprised if everything from the bottom of the sponsons up wasn't cut away and that's how the movie guys got and had to work with it.
OMG! I thought i was going nuts watching "The Pacific" and couldn't figure out what the heck was wrong with that Sherman. I saw some major differences, but when I saw the episode, it was late, and I was tired. Thank you for setting me straight on it.
A brilliant video; that movie prop Sherman is great. The only way to tell is that when in motion it rides light, without the inertia an (at a guess) four or five times heavier genuine M4 has. I expect that on location there's quite a few techniques that would disguise the lower inertia, for example a touch of slow motion filming.
The earliest M4’s also had a side door like the M3. An armor plate was added to fill the weak spot when the door was deleted. Armor was added to the later Sherman’s in a similar location to protect the ammunition stowage the replaced the door in the production models. The very earliest M4’s used the same riveted chassis as the M3 but none of those left the US. BTW Australia got 1500 M3’s delivered- half from British stocks in the Middle East and half directly from the U.S. They were used for training in WW2 and never left Australia. Australia used Matilda II tanks against the Japanese from 1943 on as they were light enough to land on a standard vehicle landing craft (and utterly impervious to most Japanese anti tank weapons).
i mean, pretty inventive use of a grant hull that was likely cut down beyond any hope of restoration. i would not have known it was a rplica if id not been told.
Remember watching that exact machine run over a car, it was when john still owned it here in australia, as it was an ex movie prop the turret if i remember right was made out of fibreglass. We have a really decent number of grant tanks here in aust, some have even been exported overseas, U.K. and the U.S.A.
Pretty cool 1:1 scale M4 replica, reminds me of the 1:1 scale Tiger 1 replica that was built from the ground up in Russia more than 10 years ago which was supposed to be featured in the Russian movie "White Tiger".
I like the Pacific however I follow the exploits of the US Army Cavalry & Infantry, we had 21 Inf. Divisions in the Pacific, plus the 1st Cav Div, 112th Cav RCT (SPECIAL), 158TH RCT bushmasters plus countless separate tank battalions. I love the 7th, 27th, 40th, 24th, 25th & AmeriCal Divisions.
That’s such a cool setup, have you thought of using some plexi glass or polycarbonate to make a window to see the drive shaft since you mentioned how you would like to be able to see that ?
Very cool movie prop. Why not take a thick piece of plexiglass glass to put over a section close to the transmission so you can see what the driveline is doing.
I wonder if the molds are still around? Always wondered why not build a good replica? Have seen a very convincing Panzer III using the chassis of a modern British light tank.
Great work both on the tank and the talk as well! Just a lil question, the devil dog says "applique" constantly, but I've heard somewhere else "appliqué" with the E more accentuated, you guys know if both are correct or something? thanks!
The first thing I thought when I saw it was: "H-block tracks? On a Sherman?" But I probably would just accepted it as a post-war track swap, in the show. Was all the modification/fabrication really more economical than just renting a real M4?
Cost , those in civilians hand likely command a hefty user fee .a movie prop only needs to look like an original from a distance . Another reason to use a prop is reliability and ease of repair . I can appreciate the value and increasing rarity of originals
@@heartland96a Fabricating that entire mockup could not possibly cost less than renting one from a prop house. A real tank would be much more reliable and robust than that flimsy sheetmetal and fiberglass top. And its not any more reliable because the locomotive bits are still an old tank's. The only rational thing I can think of is time. They couldn't get find one that could be brought on location for their filming schedule so had to create one. I was hoping for a definitive answer from the Museum.
Excellent! The deadpan crayon-chomp just about killed me
Crayon eating devil dog, nice touch!
That's a very nice movie prop. Your restoration made it look pretty authentic. The differences between the Grant and Sherman hulls aren't that obvious, most people would never notice.
Thank you!
What a great movie prop. Kudos to the original makers and your restoration.
Looks like a Marine-proof tank to me. Crayons Ready-to-Eat.
Thanks for this. Well done. Important to have these Frankensteins for use in movies -- preserving, protecting, and maintaining the remaining prized relics. Nice opportunity to highlight foundational differences in types.
I'm surprised to see you here again (LOL) but I totally agree @davidk7324. All sorts of movies have used replicas or mocked up vehicles - the Tiger in Kelly's Heroes comes to mind. I like it that they're being honest here and not trying to pass it off as the real thing. I'm sure I'll catch you back at @WW2TV, and perhaps you might be able to hook someone up from this wonderful museum to chat with Woody?
@@philbosworth3789 That would be great. Might be a "Bridge too Far"!
cre makes good crayons sf brothers
Thanks for answering the neutral steer question. I didn't expect it to have one for such a build, but as an old and retired Armor Officer, I was sure curious. Armor yellow crayons have the best flavor. Artillery red is a distant second.
A great movie prop and great to see it still survives and is appreciated…I posted late last night some history of this tank but it seems my post may have been deleted..there was a reference to Australian customs and a small tribute to those who lost there lives in 9 11……I guess I got cancelled ..anyhow… I may have upstairs in a old photo album some photos of the build we did here in Australia…we were very proud of the team that built it…if you guys would like some original photos I will see if we can find them and send them off to the museum
Wow that Sherman really is an Illusion. From the outside you can't tell by looking at it, at least from 10 ft away. Pretty amazing prop build.
That is a magnificent piece of work! The Australians got a surprising number of Lees, (they were surplused to farmers, and they are scattered all over the place) so this sort of conversion made sense; the Oz Armour museum has a lot of information on them.
Thanks for explaining the markings; I couldn't get past them. 8:45 HA!! 😂
love there lee finds from last year
@@corpnut2906 Yes, indeedy!
Very good restoration and presentation. I was a US Army Reserve member after my 2 years as a Draftee. I taught 19D recruits how to drive various version of M113 APC lots of fun. I also was able to get into through the escape hatch of a M4A1 Sherman at Ft Lewis Washington except for the escape hatch missing it was in very good condition inside.
I also got to ride in a M7 Howitzer Motor Carriage near Rockford Illinois when my unit was on a recruiting mission. That one was privately owned with the Howitzer removed at that time.
I hit like right when he ate the Crayon lol
Just a thought you want to see the input shaft visually to ensure it has sopped rotation why not cut a port hole into the cover (which really is nothing more than a tin scatter shield by the looks of it. and bolt or screw a clear plastic plate over top just make it a thicker plexi-glass to compensate for being plastic not tin
Wow, what an amazing difference between the outside and inside of that tank. You folks did a great job rebuilding it!
That tank has a deep history! Thanks for the video.
Sad that it's common name is that of a WAR CRIMINAL.
When they were retired from Army service a lot of the Grants were bought by farmers, attacked with a gas-axe and turned into improvised bulldozers/tractors and used to clear land. Once they were done with them, they were abandoned in the bush.
I wouldn't be surprised if everything from the bottom of the sponsons up wasn't cut away and that's how the movie guys got and had to work with it.
Best looking “fake” tank I’ve ever seen.
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Nice one guys.
😎👍
OMG! I thought i was going nuts watching "The Pacific" and couldn't figure out what the heck was wrong with that Sherman. I saw some major differences, but when I saw the episode, it was late, and I was tired. Thank you for setting me straight on it.
A brilliant video; that movie prop Sherman is great. The only way to tell is that when in motion it rides light, without the inertia an (at a guess) four or five times heavier genuine M4 has. I expect that on location there's quite a few techniques that would disguise the lower inertia, for example a touch of slow motion filming.
Great video. I wouldn't have guessed this was originally an M3 and not an M4.
Excellent video, love going through the layout and features of this vehicle, makes you appreciate the work the prop builders are capable of
Cool crossover of military and film history
Reminds me of the wood Sherman Firefly tanks they made for A Bridge too Far. This is much better with the Grant hull though.
The earliest M4’s also had a side door like the M3. An armor plate was added to fill the weak spot when the door was deleted.
Armor was added to the later Sherman’s in a similar location to protect the ammunition stowage the replaced the door in the production models.
The very earliest M4’s used the same riveted chassis as the M3 but none of those left the US.
BTW Australia got 1500 M3’s delivered- half from British stocks in the Middle East and half directly from the U.S. They were used for training in WW2 and never left Australia.
Australia used Matilda II tanks against the Japanese from 1943 on as they were light enough to land on a standard vehicle landing craft (and utterly impervious to most Japanese anti tank weapons).
I think the hull door was deleted on the T6 pilot when it was standardized as the M4. Also never seen a riveted M4 hull.
@@bobjohnston9154 As noted - they never left the US. They were used as training vehicles replacing the M2 Medium that preceded them.
When I see cannons firing in movies and there is ZERO recoil it kills it for me.
Well done with the crayon, brother. I prefer the red. Semper Fi
Using the gears can make your turn sharper . .
i mean, pretty inventive use of a grant hull that was likely cut down beyond any hope of restoration. i would not have known it was a rplica if id not been told.
Remember watching that exact machine run over a car, it was when john still owned it here in australia, as it was an ex movie prop the turret if i remember right was made out of fibreglass. We have a really decent number of grant tanks here in aust, some have even been exported overseas, U.K. and the U.S.A.
Can't wait to come back and visit again.
Really nice movie prop!
1990-1996 0481 B co. 1st LSB S-3 1st LSB. Shore Party up !! Great video. Semper Gumby Red Patcher.
You get a like just for the crayon. Semper fi. 😂
Love your videos! 👍
Thank you!
SO WHAT IT LOOKS AUTHENTIC !
Pretty cool 1:1 scale M4 replica, reminds me of the 1:1 scale Tiger 1 replica that was built from the ground up in Russia more than 10 years ago which was supposed to be featured in the Russian movie "White Tiger".
4:33)The tie down, towing and lifting points are lower down. The front ones are at 0:51. The rear are shown at 2:01.
A wonderful machine.
If the 13 speed transmission was fully functional it would be pretty humorous to see that thing going 70 mph. Lol
I like the Pacific however I follow the exploits of the US Army Cavalry & Infantry, we had 21 Inf. Divisions in the Pacific, plus the 1st Cav Div, 112th Cav RCT (SPECIAL), 158TH RCT bushmasters plus countless separate tank battalions. I love the 7th, 27th, 40th, 24th, 25th & AmeriCal Divisions.
Keeping movie history alive 👍🇺🇸
I would think taht this kind of build would be more of a nightmare to repair than a standard sherman
Excellent! Even if it's a "Vis Mod"...😂 As far as I'm concerned, it's a M4A2 early production! Many thanx 👍👍
That’s such a cool setup, have you thought of using some plexi glass or polycarbonate to make a window to see the drive shaft since you mentioned how you would like to be able to see that ?
What a ton of work that thing was. Seems like there are quite a few running M4's left, I wonder why they didn't just hire one out?
Very cool movie prop. Why not take a thick piece of plexiglass glass to put over a section close to the transmission so you can see what the driveline is doing.
As a 19Echo Cold War tanker, and one who has 50 plus years in the automotive restoration field,I have but one question: Are you hiring?
I wonder if the molds are still around? Always wondered why not build a good replica? Have seen a very convincing Panzer III using the chassis of a modern British light tank.
Amazing. Nice job.
Thank you very much!
"so its a kit car then? is it based on a volkswagon beetle or a triumph herald?"
if you know, you know..
How did they get paint to stick to UHMW polyethylene? That stuff is slicker than snot!
Great work both on the tank and the talk as well! Just a lil question, the devil dog says "applique" constantly, but I've heard somewhere else "appliqué" with the E more accentuated, you guys know if both are correct or something? thanks!
Just a crayon eating Jarhead, I’m probably pronouncing it incorrectly.
The first thing I thought when I saw it was: "H-block tracks? On a Sherman?" But I probably would just accepted it as a post-war track swap, in the show. Was all the modification/fabrication really more economical than just renting a real M4?
I like that LVT(A)4
Interesting that it has the same gear pattern as a Centurion.
Amazing work. I'd love to work on such projects.who should I contact?
"M4 Sherman Tank is Not What You Think..."
Its a jelly bean.
Why didn't they just use an actual Sherman?
Cost , those in civilians hand likely command a hefty user fee .a movie prop only needs to look like an original from a distance .
Another reason to use a prop is reliability and ease of repair .
I can appreciate the value and increasing rarity of originals
@@heartland96a Fabricating that entire mockup could not possibly cost less than renting one from a prop house. A real tank would be much more reliable and robust than that flimsy sheetmetal and fiberglass top. And its not any more reliable because the locomotive bits are still an old tank's.
The only rational thing I can think of is time. They couldn't get find one that could be brought on location for their filming schedule so had to create one.
I was hoping for a definitive answer from the Museum.
that Amtrac in the background does it run it looks good
Yes it run, but not very well. There are plans for the future. It does have the original r975 in it
Good video
A cummins 903 i think the m50 sherman had one too
Why didn't they put in a small window so you could see if the driveline was moving?
Wasn't the sherman just a new top on a grant hull?
BUT IT ISN’T A GRANT! It is a Mk4 Sherman!
"Featured in the 2010 HBO mini series"
What the hell are you talking about 2010, the Pacific wasnt that long ago......right?
Why use a Lee hull to build a Sherman when the Lee served throughout the war in the Pacific as an infantry support tank?
It was probably just the lower half of a m3 cut in half to be a farm vehicle
@@nippe97 That makes sense.
poor grant have to chage to be m4 to live on 😂😂😂
You restored a faked-up movie prop?