Eve Online In 2023
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Eve Online for the past 20 years has been the number 1 most popular sci fi space sandbox MMORPG, this game initially released all the way back in May 2003 and over the years has not only gone through numerous updates to keep itself up to date with other MMOs visually, but it’s also a game that’s fostered some of the most legendary battles and stories ever to have taken place in the MMO genre.
Just to name a few epic moments in Eve Online you had the battle of B-R5RB, a 21 hour long war in which 7,500 players battled it out and nearly 11 trillion ISK worth of ships were destroyed.
The Massacre at M2-XFE which held two Guinness world records with $378,000 worth of ships being destroyed.
What do you think about Eve Online in 2023? Is this game still the number 1 sci-fi MMORPG? should new players start playing today? let me know in the comments below!
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Eve Online 2023 Steam Description
THE #1 SPACE MMO
EVE Online is the largest single shard space MMO of all time. With over 7,000 solar systems and nearly 20 years of rich player-created history, join this storied universe and play free to experience everything from immense PvP or PvE battles to mining, exploration, and industry.
Seize your destiny as an immortal, a Capsuleer capable of piloting over 350 fully customizable starships from small, nimble Frigates to formidable Battleships and massive Freighters. Embark on a solo adventure through the twisting nexus of wormhole space, form a mighty industrial empire to transform athe building blocks of the universe, or take up arms with likeminded players to conquer vast frontiers together. Who will you be in New Eden?
PLAY FREE
Experience this vast spaceship MMO for free as an Alpha Clone with access to Frigates, Destroyers, Cruisers, Battlecruisers, and Battleships of any faction. Enterprising Capsuleers may also choose to upgrade to Omega Clone for unlimited Ship access and double training speed.
SINGLE SHARD, SINGLE SERVER SANDBOX
As a single sharded MMO, all players of EVE Online play on the same server across all timezones. Jump in and join thousands of players in the greatest space sandbox there is. Every decision you make, battle you win, and system you claim becomes a part of the long, rich history of New Eden. Where will you leave your mark?
GAMING'S BIGGEST BATTLES
There's no limit on what you can accomplish as a Capsuleer. EVE currently holds the Guinness World Record for the largest multiplayer video game PvP battle - 8,825 players in a single conflict. Take part in massive spaceship battles from day one or train up and command those fleets yourself.
PLAYER DRIVEN ECONOMY
EVE's player economy is one of unprecedented scale. The single shard nature of the universe makes for a single economy spread across thousands of space stations. Whether you want to trade on the local markets, produce new ships and equipment, or make cunning investments based on knowledge of player politics, it's all possible.
LIMITLESS CHOICES
Pursue a life of exploration, warfare, prosperity, or all of the above! Pilot over 350 different vessels and customize it to your liking with thousands of unique modules. Modify your ship as a fast and nimble fighter or design it from the ground up as a heavily shielded brawler to go toe to toe with others. Feeling lucky? Take a chance and modify your equipment further using alien technology found deep in Abyssal Deadspace.
CONTINUOUS DEVELOPMENT
With over 17 years of active development and free expansions, EVE is one of the longest running space MMOs out there. Join a thrilling universe filled with the unrelenting activity and combined history of millions of other players!
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The best way to learn and have a taste of Eve is to right join a big alliance corporation. THEN you will have a real taste of the game. You got so many things wrong, but I can understand it from your point of view. Eve might be scary at first and take some time to grasp the idea. I was there too.
pin ziko317's comment plz to give him some extra praise :D
Just so you know. You used to be able to walk around stations. They removed taht feature.
Would have been a fun game if your characters could move around the ship and on space stations. Doesn't need to land on planets.
well you did not give it a fair shot so there is that i guess, kinda pathetic but you do you
Watching him build a character hes never gonna see again is peak eve
Wait so we never see our characters not even in once?
@@miguelsvjr7405only if your capsule is killed and your clone body is floating in the space😂
@@aresameliajenalpha9019 So they got rid of the player housing??? I haven't play in years.
@@RayJ03l I think you used to be able to walk on a station with your character, but it eventually was cut from the game.
But I do have a lot of fun with character portraits.
This is a perfect example of what new players feel when they come into the game and why most of them leave without discovering the game. Great vid btw.
Its actually not that hard,tbh folks have no patience
It eats too darn many hours and the annual subscription price is a doozy.
I'm one of those who have up. Game is great. Just too expensive and time consuming. I clocked 500 hours minimum but it just didn't feel like it's worth it.
I agree, I wish ccp made the initial weeks less painfully boring. Let new players get into good ships faster. It is an awesome game held back by its initial impression.
@@christopherransley5319 Exactly, people now are too used to having their hands held throughout their gaming experience... which is why older games have so much more depth and breadth.
@@Nemoticondifference between having your hand held and having to live a second life on your PC to do anything worthwhile.
The reason the game has a good character creator was because there actually was plans for you to walk around the station or spaceships called 'walking in stations' and back in 2019 you could walk around a single point at a station overlooking your spaceship but no one used this feature because it was slower then the other overview so it was scrapped
thye could make just a social hub, like a pub just for players to chill a little
Eve combat seems really simple at first, almost AFK, but once you get into more complex engagements you start to realize there is a LOT to keep track of. Your damage is based on a whole bunch of factors, such as enemy resistances vs. your ammo/weapon damage type, your range to the target, your transversal velocity compared to weapon tracking, your signature radius (how big your ship is compared to enemy weapons), and that's before taking into account things like EWAR and capacitor management. You can kill battleships with frigates if you fly and fit your ship correctly, even though the battleship has way higher DPS and defenses, as it's possible to get "under" the battleship's guns with a frigate where your small size and fast speed prevents the battleship from hitting you at all.
So while PvE combat tends to be pretty chill, PvP combat is one of the most intense gameplay types in any game, and has actual stakes because you permanently lose your ship (and sometimes pod) if you lose. The "more powerful ship" thing is countered by the fact that more powerful ships are more *expensive*, which means when you eventually lose them (and you will) all you do is run out of money faster. Lots of very rich and very veteran players will fly cheaper ships in PvP just so they can afford to keep doing so.
As for the P2W thing, Eve is referred to as "P2L" or "Pay to Lose." You can get isk and training via RL money, but if you don't actually know how to fly the stuff you bought, you'll just go out and promptly lose it all. Most veteran players fund their fleets and PvP ships using purely in-game methods, often buying extra accounts from the "P2W" guys who end up feeding their blingy ships. The game also doesn't have any actual end game or objective, so "winning" is always going to be relative. Many people find flying capital ships as "winning" whereas even after 15+ years of gameplay I never want to touch the darn things.
This is the truest comment. It's hard for a lot of gamers to understand though unless they stick with it for long enough-- which has always been Eve's problem.
This commend should be pinged
great description
15 years… damn
I'm about nine months in and I'm able to get kills against much older characters through laying traps and ensuring that it's a fight I can win :)
I love eve and the many potential play styles. It is alot for new players to take in but I'd say sticking it out is one most rewarding experiences in a game I've ever encountered.
I played EVE from release to 2014, had such a blast, fond memories, near heart attack PVP, fun being pirate and sad sometimes, so much, I will always miss the times I had in the game.
what EVE subscription gives ?
What made you quit?🤔
@@june_o9idk about what made him quit but eve is a game people often come and go from with years in between. Before 2020 the last time I played eve was like 2015, but I’ve played semi-regularly for the last 3 years.
@@Crocodile939 it gives you 2x speed for training skills, unlocks the ability to initiate unconsensual pvp in high sec, allows your character to train more than 5 million skill points and there are certain skills/ships/modules that are exclusive to Omega Sub.
I have been gaming since Atari and EVE is the greatest game I have ever played. It’s definitely not for everyone and that’s a good thing.
The best advice for any new eve player is to join one of the many player corporations specialized in training/helping out new people. EvE University is a great start.
I was part of The Graduates, the corp that was around (Maybe still is?) for people who "graduated" from Eve University. Was a Small Fleet Commander for a few years. Great fun roaming Null and fighting with RED and eventually losing Tribute to them.
I’m really grateful for how Eve has pushed the envelope for MMOs in terms of its game scale and economy.
Yeah the economy of EVE is just amazing. Personally i would still be playing if it didnt drain all my free time.
And don't forget being the template for PvP (Psychopath v Psychopath) gankfest gameplay for all modern mmos! ;-p Although, to be fair, UO predates it by many years, fwiw.
Yeah and subscription gaming, feeding the pay to win games to come with more ideas
They literally hired real economist.
I LOVE how they don't Pander, it happened figure it out yourself mentality!!
Took me 6 months to really get into game and then I really fell in love. Played hardcore for 3 years, and had a blast.... and then also had enough. Was great and I often miss it.
Yeah same here. Eve can consume literally all your time. Loved it while it lasted but Eve burnout is real. I never could play it "casual" if that makes sense.
My main barrier to entry is the subscription, it feels kinda sucky that I have to pay 15-20 bucks a month in the future for a game I don't understand yet.
As a long time eve player, I'm actually really glad to see you step into this and give it a go, fresh perspective on one of my all time favourite games is great to see. I think you pretty much nailed it in regards to the pros but I would of liked to see a bit more of your analytical look into the cons, but as you say, it probably would of required a longer look into the game and if it just isn't your thing, its hard to trudge through for the sake of it.
Combat gets nuts and very sweatypalm intense as the stakes rise and your tech and ships/weapons/midd avaliable get further in. It is NOT an afk game but that is definitely something you think at first
I've never played the game, but over the years I've seen some videos outlining the happenings in the game amongst the various factions and their power struggles.
It was like seeing an alternate history of the universe and was fascinating.
"combat is not as complicated as I thought" That is part of the beauty of eve. The systems are easy to learn but mastering them takes a great deal of knowledge and skill.
Well said. Its crazy how complex combat can become.
Combat could be so much better, if you can control your ship manually. The autopilot is very annoying, too random sometimes and can lead to situations where you stuck behind an asteroid, which can result in death.
@@XpurkapiX you can fly manually
part of the skill is not ever letting that happen, you can master manual flight by clicking in space and manual flight controls AND just knowing how to manipulate the autopilot in general@@XpurkapiX
@@XpurkapiX Personally I like the combat since, for me, it makes it feel like you are commanding a huge ship. If the frigate and maybe destroyers felt a little more controllable that would make sense imo.
One of the main things which you weren't introduced to was the concept of ship roles, and the tradeoffs of choosing a larger ship.
Pretty much every ship has stats, bonuses, and a slot layout that favors a specific role. Just the combat roles include close-range "brawling," long-range "sniping" or "kiting," logistics (space-heals), fast or hard tackle (holding ships in place), EWAR (applying debuffs), and Links (applying buffs). These roles can be used in conjunction with each other to make a set of ships into far more than the sum of their parts. We call these sets of ships Doctrines, which are created by players and change over time with the game.
You mentioned in your video a fear that combat would simply turn into a case of the bigger ship winning. A combination of stats encompassing two concepts called Application and Projection work to counteract this. Application describes how capable a ship is of applying damage to another. While not a hard and fast rule, generally larger, longer range weapons either apply less damage to or find it harder to hit smaller, closer, and faster moving targets. Projection describes a ship's ability to maneuver around the battlefield and position itself optimally. Again not a hard and fast rule, but generally larger ships are slower to turn, and have slower sublight and warp speeds. These mechanics allow smaller ships to threaten targets several classes larger than them, and is also why despite having PLEX (the item which WoW Tokens and Runescape Bonds were based on), it would be difficult to classify Eve as Pay-to-Win.
Woah I was thinking about this game until I seen this video cuz I liked everything but the combat it looked boring but I liked how you broke down how complex it can get n to me that’s fun so ty for this.
Yeah. The number of times we've taken like a frigate wolfpack and wrecked something huge is legion. How you fly is def more important than what you fly.
Bigger is still probaly better for a generic engagement, and the big ships are needed for certain kinds of doctrines. but plenty of situations where bigger gets you into absolute trouble.
I love Eve Online. I also love Amarr so I can scream out "FIRE THE LASER!"
Combat gets much much more frenetic later when you're trying to control 6 targets and 10 weapons and drones.
Its a social MMO, new player exprience is rough when critical tools are not utilized. The critical tool is communication. I recommend asking people for help! Every seasoned player will do their best to help you understand the core systems and find your way in this ultimate sandbox. The effort makes the experience endearing and its worth it. The game can be as AFK but also adrenaline fuel when you venture out.
I'll never touch this game, though I'm always fascinated by it.
there is ALOT to learn dude. it takes years to fully understand the game...from simple combat to mining, takes years....to even get into a dreadnaught will take just over 16 months of training without boosts....thats IF you have the monthly sub to keep training past a certain point...to do it free it double...again, there is ALOT to understand.
Takes years of clicking books to get your ingame character to learn the game. So you can finally do interesting in it.
You gave Eve a fair chance. This is what happened to me when I first started back in 2009. Came back a few months later and got hooked for a few years. Then for the next 11 years (2010 to 2021) I played thousands of hours as I kept coming back for more. Last year I realized my family and life was more important than this game I had sunk a large portion of my adult life into. I still look back fondly at all the experiences I had and the friends I made. This game defined my twenties.
I played Eve for a few years, but the grindy mechanics can work you like a second job if you want to have fun and have the ISK to do it. That's why I stopped playing. I am more into Star Citizen now. Doesn't have all the mechanics yet, but they way things are going will eventually lead to a more accessible and immersive version of what Eve does.
Ah EVE, 10 years of my life, a second job, and a group of fantastic international friends, stuck with the same group throughout and had an absolute blast. We were the last Free C6 Corp during the Russian purge of high class wormhole space a few years ago, it ended in a bloodbath, of course we lost but it was an absolute blast!
23 minutes of Lazypeon admiring space. 🚀
Did we watch the same video? I saw like 30 seconds of him admiring space, and then 23 minutes of him saying things that weren't really true about the game and complaining about the ui.
what did he say that wasn't true?
@@bellidrael7457
@bellidrael7457 He hadn't said anything bad nor made outrageous assumptions in this video. I've been playing for years and I rarely see meat riding from the eve community.
You remind me of a reddit post about eve not being a spread sheet simulator, then underneath, replies were veteran players mocking the fact that it is.
Some players really just need to "snap back to reality" if you will.
@@bellidrael7457 You heard the same subjective viewpoints as I did. However, you and I understand the objective value of EVE, while new players at large do not - just as you and I did not when we first started. Subjective and objective perspectives - like the Offspring boldly professed to the world: gotta keep ‘em separated.
Eve was always a stunning game. Visually, incomparable to anything out there, even from way back when. Technically, you've got literally HOURS of learning to do to even SCRATCH the surface; there used to be a 'meme' of the 'learning curve' of games in comparison. Eve's point was a dead-drop massive cliff. :P
There are THOUSANDS of systems to explore, there are MILLIONS of random encounters with everything from faction N.P.C.'s to random pirates (and even an ALIEN!), you can build, or mine, or fight to make money... It's really REALLY in-depth.
C.C.P. has done an INCREDIBLE job of upgrading, and updating a beautiful game, and really making it something role-players and combat-freaks can love through two decades...
...not bad for a psychology project by a bunch of students.
HOWEVER...
...the only people still in Eve are the desperate hangers-on...
...and PSYCHOPATHS.
That's right. You see, Eve Online is a money-driven slaughterhouse. You don't get to 'chill' anywhere in Eve. Well, you CAN, if you never undock. They don't tell you that in the description, do they? Or the in-game motto, 'Undocking means you consent to P.v.P.' . (that's literal; there is NO safe place in Eve Online, ANYWHERE. don't let ANYONE tell you different).
YES, it's ILLEGAL to shoot someone in high-security space...
...which they work around by having 'suicide' shooters who gun you down, after their spotter (a scanner) checks to see what you have. Meh. Maybe they kill you because they're bored. No reason at all. The 'law' isn't there to ENFORCE the law, they're there to AVENGE you in the NAME of the law. They come along and just blow up the offender. Of course, as the sector SECURITY rating drops (from 1.0 to -0.something) they appear SLOWER, and less frequently (depending on sec level).
...so you're still gonna die, and lose all your stuff you were carrying. NOTE: this is an EMPLOYMENT tactic, used to make you join a corporation! More below...
If you're not in a corporation, you WILL be soon enough. Be it a pirate group, whom will badger you while doing missions, or mining, threatening you, or stealing from you, all while taunting you to get you to join, goading you into ATTACKING them, and then they can LEGALLY fight you (or just sit back and laugh while CONCORD smacks you for attacking someone), or simply offering you EVERYTHING you could want as a new player (ships, money, parts, a place to be 'safe')...
...that's assuming they don't just tell you once you've joined them you're now a miner and you'll be spending the rest of the next few MONTHS mining for them...
...then to eventually become an 'F1-monkey' (all linked weapons are activated by pressing the F1 key...), sitting on a gate mindlessly waiting for a 'victim' to come through...
Exploring? Sure! You can do that. In a huge fleet maybe. Never mind the hostile EVERYTHING in the lower-tier sectors, but those out to PROVE themselves (and 'extract tears') HUNT you in the stranger, less populated places (if you can get to them at all).
Solo play?
AhahaAhaAHAHaHaAHHA! Ya right. Maybe as an 'alt', mining in high-sec or something.
And if you're not RICH, forget it. Eve is VERY expensive as a pay-to-play game. C.C.P. didn't amp them graphics for FREE bub. No, you'll pay a monthly fee. Don't want to? Well, you could WORK for it in-game. This means SLOGGING every day, doing missions, mining, whatever, JUST to get the in-game currency (which, by the way is purchasable for real money) PLEX, which will expand your monthly pay-in by one month for one. They run about a MILLION in-game credits a pop if you want to buy one like that. Not sure of the rates now.
Bought some PLEX for cash and want to get some AWESOME toys?! Hey! Pay to win, right?! Nope. The rarer the stuff, the better it is. Also the more VALUABLE it is. As value goes up, the TARGET on your BACK gets bigger, and BIGGER and BIGGER! Ask the Italian lawyer who dumped six and a half grand (real cash) into the game for an awesome ship, parts, and some PLEX, who got blapped out of his ship the MOMENT he undocked, all his stuff got stolen, REBUILT it all, and got SCAMMED out of the second one, when a bunch of people said they'd move it 'safely' for him.
C.C.P. CONDONES all this.
This game was originally a psychology project to see what people would do if given free-reign. Early on, it wasn't so bad. It took a while to figure out 'ganking' tactics. player Corps weren't so money-crazy, and gestapo as they are now. Imagine gangs of thugs whom are rich, constantly battling each other...
Eve has it's fun moments, but they are MASSIVELY overshadowed by the disappointments you'll face. It's a challenge just to get STARTED, and you'll constantly be pushed to 'join'. If you're a soloist, you're doomed. There's C.A.S. (Centre for Advanced Studies), a STARTER corporation that has for YEARS tried to HONESTLY help new players, and make a home for themselves in-world, and slowly, inevitably, been worn down. There's very few casual players in Eve.
So Mr. LazyPeon, I agree with you; your beginner eyes are witnessing one of the most VISUALLY STUNNING space games out there. Get a good look, because a few years down the road, it'll just be blood red, smoke, and fire...
I cant seem to get away from eve. I was running 6 accounts the first time, then 12 accounts the second time. I had been mining then they gimped the market and miners couldnt make any money. I came back and was up to 12 accounts. I took a break and am considering coming back. I miss the interaction with members that we had. Ive not had that in any other game.
I do despise that we can be attacked anywhere. If Im in empire space, I shouldnt be able to be destroyed. I dont expect to get rich, but I would like to relax and enjoy the game. If you want to make more per hour you should have more risk.
@@MysticalDragon73There's risk just BEING there. They hound you. They WANT you pissed off. They want you to come out and fight them. They'll even get in crappy ships to make you think, you have an advantage. Till, of course, their pals come along, and blow you away.
Why?
Because they are BORED.
It's a game built as an experiment, that turned profitable. STOP pandering to psychotics.
Its the same two to three backdrops whenever you go in space. It looks awful. THOUSANDS of ports that all look the same and require you to hit one button to use the same services that are in all of them. Dock, wow how revolutionary. All these locations are cookie cutter boxes that a 4yr old can model. All you can do is right click something and chose an action from a menu and then watch said action. You don't actually do anything. This laughable "game" could be a video player where you just click which video you want to watch and you fools would by it.
@@troy5370 I guess you've never really got DEEP into the game; as you move around the universe, it actually has a LOT of spectacular space vistas. Often, I'd just cloak up, and look at it all. There's TONNES of different planet-scapes. As to the 'simplicity' of docking...
...that's a BOON actually. Find out what it's like when your enemy is spawn-camping your station, and you need to set a warp-to point somewhere EXACTLY straight-line OUT of the station, so the MOMENT you have control of the ship, you can jump away, and get clear of the fire. It all comes down to server ticks at that point.
The stations? The stations are, what, thirty years old? With some texture upgrades? Why bother with them? ROOKIES use them. They won't see them long, as they'll be dragged into a corp or pirate corp, and wisked away to nullsec. Why bother to make them special when C.C.P. wants you OUT of highsec, and killing...
...and dying...
...and murdering...
...and stealing.
@@eddiebrock2803Yeah didn't get too deep. Only took about 1hr to realize you don't pilot your ship. Once you realize that then you realize there is no game, it truly is a spreadsheet with some space backgrounds thrown in. You give orders and watch them executed. 0 skill required. Which is why there are bots, multi-boxers and more. Heck even the company cheats in-game for cash. Once you know this its an easy lol, uninstall, laugh at people on RUclips who pay $20 a month to see backgrounds with the illusion your that their in space.
Love Eve online and don’t think there is another game like it.The game has so much content that joining a good Corp is important as they will teach you the game.
I love seeing a person play for the first time. I created my first character 10 years ago and followed such a similar path.
Guess I'll stop now. 😅
the Legend!
As you should lol, forcing the man to play such a game.
Get this man some likes!
Your next target is called Josh Strife Hayes. Make him do a vid on eve. Go. You have a purpose now.
@werlin6629 that would be some achievement... a proper endgame 😁
Proud Player of EVE ONLINE! being in this game since 2005, yes its been 18 years ive been playing eve online and im still loving it! made a lot of video guide about it as well! 😊thank you for sharing this!
Was completely addicted to Eve from 2012 to 2017. Focused on lowsec pvp, wormhole exploration, and incursions; dabbled in industry and mining. Even went to the 2016 Evefest. Still feel that I barely scratched the surface of Eve. There's just so much to do.
Try Star Citizen
sounds like an interesting game, when did it release?@@yous2244
Oh this video gave me some serious nostalgia. I spent years playing EVE and honestly at times, it felt like a very welcomed second job - taking out keepstars, mining, bounty hunting and nul-sec exploration. It takes MONTHS to really click and it took me several times to fall in love. But saying that, 4 years since I last left our Keepstar, I doubt I'll ever go back.
Great video, Peon, as always.
The game is great, I played it for a couple of years before moving on to other things. EVE is practically one of a kind, nobody has tried to even tackle what EVE has accomplished, very niche community.
I think albion did. But never got to scale
Face of mankind did too but never got to that scale. The community is still alive though on discord, goes to show that these type of games create permanent communities. 😅
@@iabaca As both a long time EVE and Albion vet, this isn't really true. Albion is the bigger world by quite a bit, and also somewhere in the 2x-5x larger player base range. Albion also has a comprehensible UI even though pretty much all the systems from EVE are there. Albion is the dramatically better game in every way, except subjectively if you prefer one setting strongly over the other.
Albion's game world isn't physically bigger as in measuring it by how individual meters are represented. Traversal times, the number of massive alliances that can hold meaningful amounts of territory, how much players can spread out, Albion is a lot bigger.
Well before Albion there was a game called Perpetuum that tried to mimic Eve but with mechs instead of spaceships. From a cursory google it seems like it's still going but I never hear anyone talk about it so I have to assume the playerbase is pretty small by this point
Albion tried to be EvE before release. Than it was simplified and released. It is a lot simpler EvE in a much smaller fantasy world. Nothing wrong with that, it works and glad the devs have the success. But it can't compare to EvE.
The irony of him initially picking matari, then switching to Amarr...
Ammatar :D
I never really played this game but just kind of wanted to just explore and roam around and see all the beautiful space stuff. The visuals are just so beautiful. I wish I could get into it a lot more.
its free just download it and start exploring
I recommend taking a leap of faith into a player community, even just as an alpha (indefinite free trial) account. Signal Cartel/Eve-Scout is an exploration focused corp that can be a good home for new players. But honestly if you get in discord comms with any helpful mentor or small group of newbro friendly players, you’ll probably understand the game in a new and more engaging way.
Will you want to stick with it or spend money? Who knows. But if you want to get into it, that’s how I’d recommend doing so. Even if it sounds intimidating to hop on voice comms with stranger(s). To be fair that is intimidating :)
Do it! That’s what I finally did years and years ago and it turned into a 7 year journey of the best gaming experiences I have ever…. Ummmmm experienced lol
Download it and join the Signal Cartel. Exploration in EVE is endless, including wormhole space...just watch your six
You don't have to sub, you can just use a free account and do that.
For combat you have to get into your weapons ammo types vs enemy type, accuracy falloff range and transversal movement... for the basics. Not necessarily afk combat.
if it has action combat more like ace combat will be amazing
@@gamingch4538 Well although the combat runs in real time, it's more like a turn-based simulation.
Keep in mind that the game has been developped at a time when internet was not as fast, "real time" action combat wasn't really possible without harsly limiting the number of participants. A turn-based system can absorb a big amount of lag (that's also actually how TAB-targetted combat works in old MMOs like WoW).
Yeah not afk at all, most heart racing combat i've ever played tbh. Just not at first.
@@gamingch4538 for eve, no it wouldn't. The ships are not fighters, they are battleships, carriers, dreadnoughts. They move slowly, and the only reason eve is able to have THOUSANDS of players in the same battle is because it is not doing too much at once.
@@umadbroimatroll7918100%, in Eve you have to manage your modules, speed, distance, drones, ship power, weapons and ammo types, scanners and sensors. It’s very much like being the Captain of a ship or fleet vs being the pilot.
I really enjoyed my time with EVE way back, its been some years ago now but even then it was a very good looking game. And looks like they kept improving on the visuals over the years and it looks even better now
I remember trying out EVE some 2 years ago. I spent 1,5h watching tutorials on how to set up your UI and what everything does, then played for around 6 hours, got nowhere, dropped the game.
Its hyper competitive semilawless corporate simulator in space. While they managed to make really deep ecosystem, it is not a world I'd like to live. We have enough of eve's shit irl (minus spaceships).
@@SciFiMangaGamesAnime but when it's not real it makes it fun. Look at drama shows for example, they are massive, people dont like drama in their lives, but watching it is fun. Same with eve, being in a mega capitalist society would suck irl, but playing it in a game rising the ranks and all of the intrigue, politics, scams, eve is like a 4x game if you end up in leadership but it plays in real time with actual people.
@@umadbroimatroll7918if you've ever been in a wow guild, you know that drama is mostly a burden on your enjoyment. I used to play EVE for a wormhole Corp and there's basically daily duties to be able to stay operating that could be considered equal to a day job.
The only regret I have is that I left all my ships in the base, so I think I'm pretty screwed if I ever were to log back in.
I have always loved the idea of this game more then playing. I've tried playing it like 10 times and would play it for a month and then pay for it another 3 months while doing nothing more then starting new skills lol
Peon: "I wonder if I can just walk around the station..."
Walking in stations was...oof.
Glad you finally tried it!! The ads in game can also be player made advertising their corps/alliances - also just click and drag ammo/crystals to the weapon slot and gg
Thank you for re-bringing this game back to me.. I work from home on the week days and weekends and i think this game would be perfect to keep myself semi-distracted while working at the same time.
Also I love space! Just didn't try this out cause i thought it's more overwhelming..
It is very simple to learn, but complex to master. Join a group if you play, eve truly is boring alone, coming from a 15 year eve vet.
I feel like that would be the opposite of what i need here..
I will be mostly playing this game while working from home, If i socialize I wont find time to work hehe xD
Maybe i'll change my mind when i get into it but thank you sir @@umadbroimatroll7918
Happy to see you taking a look at Eve !
It might be the game that gave me the more powerful emotions of all, but you have to push the game far enough to feel the trill.
I have quit the game for a few years now because you basically need a second lifetime just to play it fully and I cannot afford that 😅 but I keep amazing memories of learning how to achieve goals like living in a wormhole, control a mining fleet by myself, be part of a nullsec corporation.
The death in Eve can be very punishing and that’s part of the magic. Try to bring back a cargo full of Billions isk worth of material from nullsec to empire knowing that you will cross system with player waiting just for you to do that is like playing you real life 😂 just remembering about it makes my hands sweaty again !
I remember my first large fleet fight. My hands was shaking so bad i couldn’t operate my mouse. That was around -04 and if i remember correctly you lost skill points if you were podded. No other game have even come close to that adrenaline rush.
This video is amazing. I love your wonder at it. Ive had the same hesitation to try EVE but this really opens it up super well. Thank you so much.
About the walking around stations, they started developing walk around stations in around 2013ish. They created walk around hangers first, but scrapped it all not long after.
Every time he mentioned that it wasn't that complex I couldn't help but snort. Oh you sweet summer child.
Not that complex > how load ammo
Was a funny sequence lol… although gameplay complexity and ui clarity are absolutely different things. So it’s a fair criticism but a funny juxtaposition.
I'd be interested to see him play for a month in a corp with people that are vets and have like one that's going to hand hold him and give him all the answers and info he needs and see if his opinion changes at all
EVE is very cool if you already have a business degree
always entertaining to watch a new player
enter eve universe for the first time. long time player here '06
I played EVE for years. What a great game! It can be very challenging to learn but that is part of the enjoyment - mastering the skill of playing the game.
It’s funny I was wondering if you would ever review Eve Online but I figured it would be a long shot as most skills required to even have major fun with the game take literal real time to learn unless you just want to shell out hundreds of dollars, not to mention all Tech 2 and Tech 3 ships are locked by a subscription.
This game actually took me a second try to get into but once I did FW I got super sucked into and put well over 6K hours into the game. Now I mainly headquarters incursion run to make money and PvP in low sec when I don’t care about losing some stuff. This is a game with an insanely steep learning curve and is definitely not for everyone
played 12ish years, but won the game a while ago (aka, no longer play it).
Eve is a social game at it's core, which is why you might've felt a bit out of odds - being able to collaborate with others, can really change the feel. Notice how many of their promotional material surrounds voice chat and group content.
But it is definitely a niche gameplay-wise.
Thanks for reviewing it.
This game lives with player interaction. When you play solo you get bored so fast.
There's a sci-fi jet fighter MMO called ACE Online that's still managed to survive since 2006. It would be incredible if you covered that game as well.
You could not have been more wrong about combat in the game, but I understand why you came to that conclusion. Fighting career agent NPC ships is exactly that, approach and shoot. There is no chance of dying. As soon as you get into PVP or for some higher skill level PVE you need a lot more active gameplay to get by. Other than that I think it is great and refreshing to see a bigger youtube channel give EVE a go :)
Please explain, besides staying within your optimal range and out of their optimal range? The bigger the guns, the less chance you have to hit a smaller target, so really you just need a ship for every situation. The rest is all point and click whilst outlasting the other person. You are just overcomplicating it so it sounds complex.
@@DragonXDreiWell for starters, all of the things you mention is so much more than just that. Optimal range can differ from ship fit to ship fit, just as it can change mid fight if the opponent switches a script from Tracking speed to optimal range. Sure you can have a ship for every fight, but you can’t bring them all at the same time, so sometimes you are fighting at a disadvantage, but knowledge of manouvering, transversal and angular velocity can give you an advantage over an opponent who only knows approach or orbit. Springle on top of this, character skills, expensive modules and implants, none of which you can know before engaging in PVP. If you find all of this simple then I applaud you.
Second. I believe most of what you mention wasn’t even part of the video. He fought some career agent npcs and based his opinion of combat from that, which is nothing like the rest of the game.
@@noobcollector9146 you make it sound too complicated when in reality it's simple. The person with more skills, expensive implants and better equipment will kick your ass. If I am in a battleship and some dude thinks like you, and I have all the skills maxed out. Even a large turret can still track and hit someone enough times whilst repairing shields and hull with infinite energy. Like I said, drones, bombs, electronic warfare, and so many different things the million skills in EVE can give you an advantage over others that don't have your wallet or time. Unfortunately anyone that spent more time training and has unlimited ISK will kill you, unless they are in a pod, and even then they might be able to move and warp away faster than you can lock.
Also, decent players can have equipment for every situation. I always used to have defensive or offensive gear, even in my industrial ship. Something to give me an edge. Had one of the Amarr industrial that could hit warp speeds with multiple afterburners or micro warp drives in a second. Obviously by now I imagine some things got nerfed or fixed, but there is always another way to have a few surprises.
I got all my fortune playing solo, my main source of income was ICE mining, which was just stupid AFK mining with macro recorded, whilst playing something else on another PC or watching stuff, whilst paying attention to local chat. EVE is just not fun, and it's all about who has the bigger gun, more money and more skills. I think that it is impossible for a new player to catch up in skills to someone who's been playing for over two decades.
@@DragonXDrei You will never be able to fit a ship to fight in every scenario. Sure you can have every counter fitted in your hangar, but when you are out there fighting you probably wont have the time.
I feel like you dont understand that skill will always outplay money. And if you combine skills with money you can outplay even groups. It might be very easy to say “Just stay inside your optimal range and outside theirs” but doing it requires knowledge of so many factors that you cant put it up so simple.
I feel like the expression "haven't even scratched the surface" doesn't even begin to describe this video. You haven't even _seen_ the surface.
Why the expression here is your average MMO learning curve. Here is Eve pushing them over the cliff Meme was created..
Great video from the perspective of a new player, thank you! I've been playing EVE on and off since 2008, and as others say in the comments, you need a corp to help you through it, as it's quite a complex game. And I'd say that the medieval version of EVE is Albion, they are incredibly similar in terms of meta gameplay.
I have been a long time fan but seeing you play Eve was special, nice video!
Unfortunately game only really opens up once you join a corp(equivalent of a guild) and get taught how to play by other players while also gaining access to the most fun content you could get
Eve took 5 years of my life, first 3-6 months just to "start" understanding all the possibilities the game offers and by the time I quit I think I tried almost every aspects of the game (like 97%) and it was absolutely epic.
Peon u are the best when it comes to MMO reviews but as u said, u couldn't possibly review this without spending more time on it. Still much respect for u to giving it a try!
For everyone else, I do recommend try it with some friends at least more experienced or just look for a new players corporation 🙂
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I remember when I first played Eve. I love complicated games so it was right up my street. I learned the ropes in High-Sec, killed a Moros as apart of a group on a roam in my crappy Vexor with T1 drones. I had such a blast! I was then instantly curious about nulsec, so I went there to live. I got bored and moved to wormhole space which is still my favorite part of Eve (when with a good active group). Diving into Nulsec on roams as part of a wormhole group is amazing. I haven't played for a while but I have fond memories. The combat gives you adrenaline like no other game. Like with most things though, I get bored but will go back at some point. I hear Faction Warfare is great fun these days. Maybe that will be my next calling :)
It's cool watching you have fun as a new start. I hope you continue to play. Maybe I'll see you in game.
Eve is definitely not for everyone, but is still one of the few games to get my adrenaline going in pvp.
Best MMORPG for me! Finally, I found some time and energy to understand how to play it (the UI is more user-friendly with proper tutorials). It is the best game for my age right now. Also, it is casual-friendly! Havoc Expansion with the FPS Mode later is fantastic! Thank you for your Video!
Is the game actually P2W now?
@@nighter62Is not , you could swipe the 💳 sure and inject into skills and ships fast but that won't mean you gonna win against a more experienced player if you fought him
great stuff, hope to see a part 2 of this!
Played for 15 years and am still learning new stuff in the game. You are right it is super complex, but very rewarding in the long run 🙂
The UI experience was something I noticed as well as being a lot. I personally don't have a hard time learning interfaces and I found everything I needed to, but it was more than I really wanted to be faced with as I was looking to play casually. It wasn't necessarily just the amount of windows, it was all of the text and poor visual contrast.
I think the other thing that ultimately turned me off is the lack of truly recreational things to do in the game world. Not that that is universally bad, it was just the major determiner in realizing it wasn't the game i was looking for.
Not everyone enjoys spreadsheet simulator and that is OK.
The combat in eve is the most heart racing, intense, overwhelming experience I have ever had in gaming hands down. You just need a guide. It is incredibly complex, theres like 15 variables you don't consider during the tutorial that matter in the actual game. I get why you don't know this stuff of course though, the truth is the tutorial explains nearly nothing when you consider the entire games complexity. It is as bare bones as you can imagine.
The tutorial teaches you how to interact with Eve’s skin. It doesn’t even mention that there is a heart, much less how to get there
Just started playing shortly before you uploaded this. I feel like a moron, you figured all this stuff out way quicker than I did
there use to be captains quarters where you can move your character around, with a door with a red button (never talk about the red button) but they updated the stations to get a scale how big the eve universe is. also learning in EVEOnline since 2013 still loads to learn.
Well done on the review! A few things, Eve is not pay to win as the only way you win is to stop playing! You can spend literal hundreds of dollars to “get the edge” in a capital ship and die to a frigate gang who knows your ships weaknesses. Combat is exceedingly complex with ship types dictating your role in the fight and with such simple inputs you can find yourself in an incredibly complex 3d chess match with your opponent(s). Fleet combat, especially small to medium gang (20-50 ppl) is a gripping experience. I have never felt PvP as meaningful, and heart pounding in any other MMO. The real change for any new bro jumping into the game is the community and the lasting friendships and enemies you make. No other game gives you this freedom and flexibility to shape the landscape of the game in such a meaningful way. Every character leaves their mark on the game ..
I've always been intimidated by this game as well, not sure i'm going to play but it does look pretty cool! Thanks for this video, that was nice having your thoughts about it
If you're anything like me and generally play MMOs solo, one of my favorite play styles in Eve Online is solo wormhole exploration. It gives you the opportunity to find some higher value resources in lawless space with full-loot PvP allowed. Unlike jumpinng from high-sec to low-sec systems, wormholes aren't camped by player pirates on the other side, so you can safely move on after a jump into a wormhole.
To stay safe ongoing in a wormhole, the first thing you'd want to do is to find a destination to warp to, warm, and in the middle of warping, set a bookmark randomly in yhe middle. Then go back and warp to that bookmark. Then find another destination and warp to that. Then, in the middle of that warp, save another bookmark. Since thay bookmark is literally in tbr middle of nowhere (not in yhr path between any 2 objects in yhe system), you can consider it a safe area to warp to if you encounter another player.
If you are looking for a noob-frendly corporation, try joining Eve University.
"combat is a little bit boring, I want to mine" LOL. Nice video, was interesting to see how the tutorial looked now, I've not seen it in years
The last time I played, which was a couple of years ago, you first mounted the energy weapon on your ship, then you dragged the crystal from your inventory onto the weapon.
16 years playing this game it still grabs me to play till this day..
what keeps you in? I fell out of it a while back.
The complexity in eve combat is very subtle. Things like range , turn speed, sig radius ( an abstract stat indicating how large your ship is ) all factor in your to-hit calculations.
If you have a big ship and are turning away from the enemy, you will miss more often. But if you turn with them you will hit them. Don't let the simplicity of the actual attacks fool you. You need to manage your capacitor, your positioning in relation to your allies and your enemies, swap your ammo for the correct range and tracking for your target, understand what on the map is really dangerous, etc. Then there is ewar, remote repair, tank management, etc.
PVP takes years to master.
Glad you did this. As a 6 year Vet that left due to….well EvE taking over my life it was very cool seeing your legit impressions and you picked it up really quick!
You left the military because of Eve?
@@assaultsquirrel no no no! Hahha. Sorry I was a six year veteran of playing the game!
@@Papatoole Ahhhhhh okay. Totally misunderstood 😂
'warp to' is a huge time saver and you can set it's distance to 1, and it doesn't look like they ever changed the character creator. They made that as an intro to 'walking in stations' but the that part of the game never came out and they left the CC in the game.
bit to complicated for me but for the people who get over those initial hurdles it'd be the game of their lifetime.
I think what new players miss regarding combat is there are hard counters to other ships and setups and there's a lot of fun in theory crafting your fittings and seeing how it performs in combat or otherwise. The game also actually forces you to be social as it requires a lot of cooperation to accomplish things, even mining is better with friends.
I miss the social aspects when you can find an active good group to chill with.. Getting on comms, shooting the breeze with friends. I keep hoping to find something similar but so far I havent. Ive tried console
I started the game in 2004 and was running 3 accounts. I was mining for isk to pay for the accounts. Then they introduced the drone regions and ruined the market. I sold my accounts. Then friends got playing. It was rough to start again. Then our new players and new corp got griefed by someone enjoying picking on newbies. I purchased an account to counter them and missed playing at a high level. Before too long I was up to 12 accounts.
I am trying not to be drug back into the back but im feeling the draw. Its just such a beautiful game.
I consider the Career Agents to still be part of the intro, you go an ocean to explore, welcome to EVE
I started a month after the initial release, I was an FC (fleet commander) in the orginal Curse Alliance (before an Alliance was a thing in the game) and after 10 years I ran the [FATAL] Alliance with 1200 players in 10-11 Corps, it was a blast and I made many good friends. It is a hard and unforgiving game, but so are the rewards and fun you can have. I highly recommend anyone to give it a go.
EvE Online has experienced several revisions to the game engine over the years. In the beginning, the character creator ws limited to just a portrait. A full sized character model is less than 10 years old, which is why it's so well made compared to a game from 2003.
The combat is actually incredibly complex,
Things like tracking speed,
Transversal
Missile explosion speed and radius,
Resistance profiles
Tackle electronic warfare and all other things
Once you understand all the mechanics (which typically takes years to fully do) you will manually pilot your ship, clicking around in space, flying to the strength of your ships and the weakness of others,
It's really really hard for new players to get into because of how stupidly complex the game and sadly no matter what CCP do to try create a tutorial it's a game which does require a bit of time sunk into it to understand and people just don't get that in the first few hours of gameplay, meaning new players coming to eve are few and far.
I would really wish a content creator like yourself or any big content creator would sit down with what eve people call "bitter vets" and play under their guide for even 7 days, and then give an opinion at the end of it, instead of playing for 1hr getting overwhelmed by an overwhelming game, and then call it quits,
Sadly it does fall under the "this game is great after x time" flaw of many modern MMOs, but also if you like the idea of space battles and totally player run sandboxes, give eve a little bit of your time, make an assessment after a week while playing with some experienced guys,
Well said and I wish the same.
100% Couldn’t agree more!
I quit Eve 3 times before fully diving in and oh boy when I did it ruined all other games for me. Nothing compares..
The best thing about the combat for me is that new players are still able to contribute. EWAR, scouting and tackle is always useful in PvP. SOCT ship bonuses let you take part in PvE with less skill points. Most MMOs don't let you play the relevant content with friends until you've caught up to their level or they make a new character.
I really disagree it takes years *if* you learn from experienced players. On your own-yes, you’re totally right.
@@Renderc4tpart of Eve’s misunderstood beauty. Many new players are discouraged by how apparently “behind” they are compared to vets. But it’s a much more lateral experience than the vertical climb of many rpgs. As a veteran of many years some of my favorite pvp ships are playable quickly. Some are more friendly to lower sp than others, but you can be a contributor to pvp engagements in your first week with the right goals and guidance.
I wanted to try the game but it seems overwhelming to start and have fun... Thank you for the video! Subscribed :)
I've played a lot 15 years ago and this video is so on point, I guess nothing has changed. Spreadsheets in space. Had its appeal.
Been playing , i think the graphics look great, there is skilled gameplay but yeah low level pve does boil down to click lock orbit and f1 (attack) , honestly it took me more time to learn to play dwarf fortress than eve and im still enjoying eve after 3k hours having started around covid when i needed something with some depth and being a bit bored of poe
If you ever feel like consuming a very well told EVE online story/narrative, look up Rooks and Kings :)
Still remember the day I was taught about relative velocity vs transverse velocity and how if you’re orbiting at speeds greater than the guns can track or the explosive velocities of missiles even if you’re locked and shot at, you take no damage. Blew my mine that one should never approach directly towards an enemy but at an angle.
Then learning about falloff, damage types, shield or armor tanking, resistances. 🤯
I haven't played this in decade, I am kinda curious how it plays now. Glad you made this.
Really nice to see all these updates and tutorials for beginners.
I started playing EVE in 2007 and there was nothing like that ^^
I guess the most overwhelming thing in EVE is all the learning in general.
Many people just got overwhelmed when they have to read text.
Some people learn things by greabbing a book or searching the internet by themselves.
Some people learn things by getting fed with a little spoon by someone who needs to be the teacher.
EVE is not for the second type.
I started in 2003 and yeah 'what tutorials?'
I’ve played eve for years. There is not a single sandbox out there better than eve online. It’s so much fun. It’s also happens to be the only game that gets my heart pumping hard on a regular basis.
Not pay to win. Pvp is actually deep an complex, though not obvious based on your video. It’s a slow burn as a new player but the game gets deeper and deeper.
I can't believe you got through that sponsored ad with a straight face lol
The crafting window :D
There's a lot of contextual menus in EVE. The reason why you couldn't use the other weapon is it was not a "civilian" version and essentially an actual weapon in comparison. You needed to either drag the Crystal Lenses onto the module icon, or in space you right-click your gun to change crystal/ammo type (Can be used to change damage type of your weapon).
Also, seeing some of the comments, it is never too late to play the game and make a difference with joining the right group. There is an age-old meme (mostly relevant to PVP):
"My ship costs less than your ammunition.
My modules were all picked off NPCs.
I don't even think my weapons are loaded.
And I'm about to ruin your life."
(Essentially, you don't have to shoot something, you can just CC a pvp target to prevent it from running away, and your friends kill it and you're credited as vital to the kill).
This is still very relevant today, and I still see lots of new players making this kind of impact and using skill to overcome hubris of older players.
Also, JOIN PLAYER GROUPS! They love to teach, mentor, and bring down the learning curve. We WANT new blood to come into the game.
...... I stopped reading after not a civilian version etc...... too complex sorry.
@@george.l2593 let’s say it was Black Desert Online instead of EVE. If I said not a “Rosar Shortsword” instead of a “Kzarka Shortsword” you’d stop reading there too because the difference between one type of Shortsword and another is too complex?🤣
Ccing until your friends show up seems like like a huge issue. Couldn't a big streamer just zerg on every single clan this way
Actually I stopped reading because after that sentence my phone quite small so need to scroll down 😅 so I see a wall of text I stopped 😅🤣😂. Sorry bro
Eve online is basically space excel sheets simulator and I love it
Just subscribed! thank you for this, i was looking for an MMO that has a good history, Because i will be starting again to game after so many years, Life has just been really tough, hope i find good people
I've played this game off & on for the last 16 years. It's truly one of a kind. Its got something for everyone from care bears to hardcore pvpers, the economy is completely player driven.
I was at the Battle of B-R5RB, it was epic. Very slow from the time dilatation but still one of my fondest gaming memories ever. And I came back for World War Bee on the side of PAPI quit after the PAPI leadership gave up right on the doorstep of the last couple gooni systems.
Never could get into EVE
I played back in 06 to 2011 and I just came back like a month ago, very casual like an hour or two a day tops, and I am having a ball out in nullsec ratting and pvping. Never thought i would ever play Eve again but it is actually not bad for casuals who have lives lol.
Watching you play makes me think about firing it up again. Endless boredom mixed in with moments of sheer terror. Played for about 7 years. Some really good memories. I remember losing an Amarr freighter with a full load of really expensive stuff. The pirates told me they enjoyed giving me a deep colon massage then podded me. I Was angry for about 2 months over that lol. Good times.
your left hand stayed on your head this whole video. try putting it on the keyboard, u might be able to play the game that way.
If you really want to be awed by space you should try Elite Dangerous, a 1 to 1 recreation of the milky way aka ~200 bilion star systems.
Wide as a ocean but as deep as a puddle.
Elite dangerous is literally just pokémon but in space. All the special events just kind of pop up randomly, nothing is permanent, very boring and unimmersive. 😅
Peon sounding like every boss on piercings "it could get caught and you will die"
I was there, in the midst of the battle of B-R. Commanded by one of the more legendary Fleet Commanders of the Clusterfuck Coalition. I don't think I will ever forget my years in EVE Online.