Rachmaninov 3rd concerto - 10 famous pianists play the ossia cadenza

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  • Опубликовано: 28 апр 2020
  • Rachmaninov wrote two different cadenza at the end of his first movement : the regular one, and another one called "ossia", longer and more difficult than the first one. Here, among about 50 versions tested, I selected 10 pianists (names below, chronological order) who play the ossia cadenza.
    0:07 Van Cliburn
    Moscow - 1958 - Moscow SO - Kirill Kondrashin
    2:53 Cyprien Katsaris
    French TV - 1980 - ? - Ohan Durian
    5:36 Arcadi Volodos
    Braunschweig - 1999 - Israël PO - Zubin Mehta
    8:15 Olga Kern
    Fort Worth, US - 2001 - Fort Worth SO - James Conlon
    11:09 Yefim Bronfman
    Tokyo - 2004 - Wiener PO - Valery Gergiev
    13:48 Lang Lang
    ? - 2005 - ? - Charles Dutoit
    16:42 HJ Lim
    Barcelona - 2014 - Barcelona SO - Pablo Gonzales
    19:17 Natasha Paremski
    Bergen - 2015 - Bergen SO - Andrew Litton
    22:14 Alexander Gavrylyuk
    London - 2017 - BBC Scottish SO - Thomas Dausgaard
    25:16 Seongjin Cho
    Moscow - 2011 - ? - Alexander Dmitriev

Комментарии • 574

  • @zestofpiano3509
    @zestofpiano3509  3 года назад +43

    Details (timestamps, year, conductor, Orchestra,...) in the description of video.
    Similar video with the regular cadenza : ruclips.net/video/2f0VXVH_hnk/видео.html

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  • @streamspring6814
    @streamspring6814 3 года назад +241

    0:07 Van Cliburn
    2:53 Cyprien Katsaris
    5:36 Arcadi Volodos
    8:14 Olga Kern
    11:08 Yefim Bronfman
    13:46 Lang Lang
    16:41 HJ Lim
    19:17 Natasha Paremski
    22:14 Alexandre Gavrylyuk
    25:15 Seongjin Cho

    • @judynelson5038
      @judynelson5038 3 года назад +23

      Lang Lang nailed it. Cliburn was off.

    • @mr2loser
      @mr2loser 3 года назад +8

      Not to open a debate about definitions or semantics, but I thought the title was "famous pianists"? Not sure half of this list are famous. Anyway, great complication. Thanks for putting it together!

    • @birgirkarl
      @birgirkarl 3 года назад +15

      @@mr2loser If you only go by fame in art, you're in trouble.

    • @mr2loser
      @mr2loser 3 года назад +13

      @@birgirkarl Check the title of the video. I'm merely commenting on that. Not artistry. Cheers!

    • @charlesbluett8195
      @charlesbluett8195 3 года назад +7

      mr2loser I haven't heard of Lim or Paremski before, but the others certainly are or were all famous pianists

  • @stephenkristan853
    @stephenkristan853 Год назад +126

    One of the most cataclysmic, terrifying passages in the entire piano literature. I love it! Who cares if it's "too much" for the movement! I'm always let down when performers opt for the standard cadenza. A little excess once in a while ain't a bad thing.

    • @trustedtarget7534
      @trustedtarget7534 Год назад +8

      I totally agree. One must grow fangs when approaching this cadenza.

    • @kevinroylancephotography9437
      @kevinroylancephotography9437 Год назад +6

      Ossia Cadenza is the point of the 1st movement. It's the contrast to that absolutely beautiful part that follows.

    • @doandadrestarahma5290
      @doandadrestarahma5290 10 месяцев назад +5

      It's Rachmaninoff! The perfect chance to be extra

    • @franksmith541
      @franksmith541 6 месяцев назад +1

      The cadenza of the Prokofiev 2nd is both more challenging and terrifying. A section of pure vehemence.

    • @dka5631
      @dka5631 5 месяцев назад +4

      If you play the standard cadenza like Argerich it is by no means easier nor boring. The build up to the D major chords becomes much more logical. but i also like big fat chords... conflict!
      source: i've played both

  • @annettefallon1652
    @annettefallon1652 6 дней назад +7

    Volodos and Lang were the 2 most powerful and convincing.

  • @Sathrandur
    @Sathrandur 3 года назад +215

    For all who may not know:
    Rachmaninov composed the ossia cadenza first, but later wrote the standard cadenza as he felt that what became the ossia cadenza created too much of a climax that he thought architecturally less desirable in the first movement. Nonetheless, he must not have minded too much as he did leave it as an ossia.

    • @itamarbar9580
      @itamarbar9580 2 года назад +40

      Hmm, interesting! This ossia cadenza shows what Rachmaninoff is best at: climaxing.

    • @99wntr
      @99wntr 2 года назад +5

      I’ve also heard he felt it may have been to difficult to play on a regular basis and created the standard cadenza to play when he had off nights during touring?

    • @ythanzhang
      @ythanzhang 2 года назад +18

      @@99wntr I guess that's a benefit of being your own composer. If you don't feel like it, you could just change the piece, and no one can really say anything about it.

    • @lczq6737
      @lczq6737 2 года назад +4

      @@99wntr Well maybe, it is also known that he made several cuts that performers can take to their discretion. I believe it was to make it easier to play as well

    • @harbinguy1
      @harbinguy1 2 года назад +3

      Do all of them play slightly different versions?

  • @mr2loser
    @mr2loser 3 года назад +133

    14:36. "Oh crap I just broke the fourth wall!"

    • @EASYTIGER10
      @EASYTIGER10 3 года назад +7

      Its a bit unsettling. Here I am in my underwear listening to RUclips when Lang Lang slowly turns and looks right at me.....

    • @chickeringfoundation1866
      @chickeringfoundation1866 3 года назад +3

      @@EASYTIGER10 Perfect!

    • @dolalafontaine
      @dolalafontaine 2 года назад

      What an absolute clown.

    • @Calaf368
      @Calaf368 4 дня назад +2

      Lang Lang's Ostia is monumental. If you close your eyes, as I did, it's the most dramatic and impressive Ossia of the lot.

  • @billmarrufo
    @billmarrufo 3 года назад +41

    Volodos hands down! Though Bronfman and Lang Lang are also top notch.

    • @vlastimil-furst-gc
      @vlastimil-furst-gc 4 месяца назад +4

      I think Bronfman wasn't gentle enough in the passages where he should be. Lang Lang did quite well from this point of view, but I still appreciated the Eastern-Slavic pianists: Olga Kern and Alexander Gavrylyuk. The feeling was there, perhaps it resonates with a Slavic soul a bit more.

    • @KarenDesantissCat-uv9hd
      @KarenDesantissCat-uv9hd 6 дней назад +4

      I agree on all accounts. Volodos was the most passionate and threw everything into it. Lang Lang did the hardest part the fastest.

  • @rainchen7846
    @rainchen7846 3 года назад +12

    The thumbnail with Lang Lang made my day lol

    • @fareshajjar1208
      @fareshajjar1208 3 года назад +4

      He's a circus act.

    • @rainchen7846
      @rainchen7846 3 года назад +7

      @@fareshajjar1208 I'm really confused about why people hate Lang Lang, he's a really good pianist

    • @fareshajjar1208
      @fareshajjar1208 3 года назад +3

      @@rainchen7846 He plays notes and makes faces. He does not make music.

    • @rainchen7846
      @rainchen7846 3 года назад +4

      @@fareshajjar1208 at the end of the day everyone has different definition of what is "musical", it's just his way of expressing music

    • @fareshajjar1208
      @fareshajjar1208 3 года назад +4

      ​@@rainchen7846 cLang cLang ignores the intentions of the composer in many instances and changes notations in the score to suit his "interpretation." He seems to have little respect for the pieces as composed. Nuanced voicing is often replaced by percussive antics. Why do great pianists like Horowitz and Rubinstein seem so stiff and upright? It's because excessive movement like the childish flailing arms and legs of cLang cLang inevitably transmits to the fingers. There is no control in the jumping clown. He should wear a gold cape and play in Las Vegas with dancing girls. He is not a serious classical artist. He is a novelty act.

  • @dhwu1619
    @dhwu1619 Месяц назад +4

    langlang was just 20 th, iT was amazing

  • @jacquesprevert1902
    @jacquesprevert1902 3 года назад +217

    Bronfman. Simply awesome

    • @katbullar
      @katbullar 3 года назад +17

      I agree... Bronfman has something very special...

    • @makaan699
      @makaan699 2 года назад +17

      Yes, his whole performance... He played this a lot of times and probably has consistently the best Rach 3 in the game.

    • @marksmith3947
      @marksmith3947 Год назад +8

      Bronfman is possibly the greatest living pianist. While he gets recognition, it's not as much as he deserves

    • @pamelaweaver9983
      @pamelaweaver9983 9 месяцев назад +3

      Hands down, Bronfman. Had the great fortune of attending 3 of his concerts. Twice for the Rach 3 and once for the Rach 2.

    • @franksmith541
      @franksmith541 6 месяцев назад +2

      I saw Bronfman play this with the Vancouver Symphony in the early 90's. A big bear of a pianist who plays with crushing power.

  • @user-yb7ie9nv6l
    @user-yb7ie9nv6l Год назад +4

    Все пианисты пытаются что-то выразить, в основном собственные эмоции и только Lang Lang рассказал в каденции историю автора. За эти 2 с небольшим минуты у меня перед глазами промелькнула вся история Рахманинова, как началась в России революция, как он уезжал в Америку и как он всю оставшуюся жизнь тосковал по родине. Lang Lang эту тоску прекрасно выразил в колокольном звоне, чего не сделал ни один другой исполнитель. Собственно, эта каденция в исполнении Lang Lang открыла мне "глаза" и на музыку Прокофьева, который мне стал понятен и близок после этого концерта Рахманинова. Lang Lang один из очень немногих исполнителей, которые представляют нам автора в каждом исполняемом им произведении, его интерпретации всегда указывают на какие-то вехи жизни автора, это слышится в его музыке. В каждом произведении у него есть особая точка зрения на произведение, он видит в нем то, чего другие не замечают. Возможно, кто-то начнет критиковать гримасы Lang Lang, его экспрессивность за роялем, для меня же это все неважно. Он ни на кого не похож и его легко узнать среди сотен других исполнителей, что и составляет его соврешенство, показывает его интеллект и глубокую эрудицию.

    • @alexguzz1405
      @alexguzz1405 Год назад +1

      Шланг-Шланг

    • @user-yb7ie9nv6l
      @user-yb7ie9nv6l Год назад +1

      @@alexguzz1405 в твоем зеркале или на семейном портрете?

  • @PianoBangBang
    @PianoBangBang 3 года назад +2

    I clicked for the thumbnail, stayed for the music

  • @PuPuSin
    @PuPuSin 3 года назад +25

    Ciburn and Volodos is my fav , every notes shine with life forces.

    • @class87srule
      @class87srule 3 года назад +2

      Yeah, Cliburn succeeds in lyricism and savagery in equal measure. Why he doesn't play the repeats at the climax is baffling

    • @TrevorduBuisson
      @TrevorduBuisson 3 года назад +3

      Volodos is just something out of this world.

    • @KarenDesantissCat-uv9hd
      @KarenDesantissCat-uv9hd 6 дней назад +4

      I love Lang Lang's.

    • @PaulPrice-nr7gp
      @PaulPrice-nr7gp 3 дня назад +1

      My favorite is Lang Lang. He had it all in...Technique, Passion, pathos, dynamic range, power, precision, touch and musicianship!

  • @i9avici7a5
    @i9avici7a5 3 года назад +14

    Volodos causes me to water up. His emotions are so transparent...

  • @iankemp1131
    @iankemp1131 3 года назад +25

    Absolutely fascinating comparison. For me, this cadenza needs both dynamic and rhythmic variety, but also a sense of struggle when the main theme returns and in the final climax - not the pianist struggling to play it, but the music struggling to fight its way through. Some come closer to "my ideal" than others, perhaps Cho most of all marginally, but all of them brought something different and individual. In particular, despite sonic limitations, a great reminder of how fine Van Cliburn was before he gave up regular playing too early.

    • @spiritualatheist1
      @spiritualatheist1 2 года назад

      I have to agree with you about Cho. He has a controlled mastery, he sounds less like all the devils in Hades are after him and more like he's totally in control. There are recording problems with Cliburn and some of the others that makes them sound a bit blurred together. And I think Cho's piano was tuned a bit brighter. I like Evgeny Kissin better than any of these - playing the ossia does not seem to be a stretch for him. His piano is also brighter. On the other hand, if you're into Ponderous and Scary, as I am sometimes, go with Cliburn.

  • @StijnDefrancq
    @StijnDefrancq 3 года назад +30

    Thanks for this nice video!
    I prefer Bronfman and Lang Lang.
    Do you know the version played by Trifonov? For me the best ever.

  • @JOHNDOE-fr2jw
    @JOHNDOE-fr2jw 3 года назад +17

    CHO WAS AWESOME!!!

  • @daniloberaldo570
    @daniloberaldo570 3 года назад +4

    Excellent video! For me, HJ Lim was the best!

  • @dang5874
    @dang5874 3 года назад +5

    Lol, all those people complaining about Lang Lang's exaggerated movements, hopefully you never get to see a jazz pianist play, a genre which Rachmaninoff greatly appreciated.

  • @ThatWasLoud
    @ThatWasLoud Год назад +26

    Time to add Yunchan Lim to this compilation

    • @RaineriHakkarainen
      @RaineriHakkarainen 10 месяцев назад +4

      Yunchan Lim colorless cold piano sound! This student Yunchan Lim should study next 6 years with a goog teacher! The best Rach no 3 really Horowitz in 1930! Evgeny Mogilevsky in 1965! Vladimir Ashkenazy! Marta Argerich Andrei Gavrilov in 1978! Natalia Trull in 1989! Yunchan Lim will be next Zimerman or Kissin boring with cold colorless sound! And crazy people will claiming Zimerman Kissin Yunchan Lim the Greatest!

    • @vlastimil-furst-gc
      @vlastimil-furst-gc 4 месяца назад +2

      @@RaineriHakkarainen From the newer performances, you kinda left out Arcadi Volodos, he's actually in the video.
      Anyway, yeah. It's quite a difference if you put any passion it it. I could hear it from Olga Kern, Alexander Gavrylyuk, Sengjin Cho or Van Cliburn, but not as much from the others in this video. A largely Slavic lineup, but for instance, Natasha Paremski didn't make it to my list.

    • @AhbibHaald
      @AhbibHaald 4 месяца назад +2

      ​@@RaineriHakkarainen what kind of mental illness do you have to call kissin cold? Just because he isn't using annoyingly excessive rubato, he is cold?

    • @orizoref
      @orizoref 3 месяца назад +2

      True! He plays the regular cadenza though

    • @alessandropelizzoli6613
      @alessandropelizzoli6613 2 месяца назад

      I agree completely with Raineri...

  • @swanee9599
    @swanee9599 3 года назад +16

    HJ Lim's playing of this cadenza is unworldly. Pure bold virtuosity.

    • @765lbsquat
      @765lbsquat 2 года назад +1

      sloppy more like it. roast beef sloppy

    • @alis1637
      @alis1637 Год назад +1

      No it’s probably the worst of this bunch

  • @michaelowens5394
    @michaelowens5394 3 года назад +6

    Nice work! I collect Rakh 3 recordings and half of these I've never heard of. My all-time favorite is Dimtris Sgouros' age 14 recording (which also took the ossia cadenza, and ossia everything). But Olga Kern's cadenza strikes me as even more musical than Sgouros'. She brought out things I've never noticed. I'll be checking out her whole recording. Thanks!!

    • @edwinwelch1393
      @edwinwelch1393 Год назад

      Have you a link to this recording?

    • @kosmosyche
      @kosmosyche 11 месяцев назад

      @@edwinwelch1393 Just type in Olga Kern Rach 3 into the search bar.

  • @mamakokonao
    @mamakokonao 8 месяцев назад

    カチャリスの演奏が圧倒的にすごい!まさにマジック!手の形がいいし、力を入れていないようでもfffがすごい。

  • @paolobozano4125
    @paolobozano4125 Год назад +1

    If I'm not wrong recently also Yeol Eum Son and Yuja Wang play the ossia cadenza, Yeol Eum Son in the final round of the Tchaykoski competition and Yuja Wang I dont remember when;

  • @florianeichenberger7354
    @florianeichenberger7354 3 года назад +140

    Is nobody going to mention Kissin? His version is sensational and underrated!

    • @TrevorduBuisson
      @TrevorduBuisson 3 года назад +11

      Exactly what I was thinking; although I wouldn't say he's underrated. I think people are fully aware of who he is. His cadenza with Ozawa is perhaps the most dynamic, nuanced and certainly flawless. He recorded it at age 21, I believe.

    • @partituravid
      @partituravid 3 года назад

      YES!!!

    • @fridagarbati5383
      @fridagarbati5383 3 года назад

      Florian Eichenerger, I ask the same question. Kissin’s version is superb!

    • @user-wy7kx2to1v
      @user-wy7kx2to1v 3 года назад

      yes,yes,yes!!!

    • @Joshua_Hershensohn
      @Joshua_Hershensohn 2 года назад +1

      Agreed even other brilliant interpretations were left out like Trifonov and Ashkenazy!

  • @undisclosedmusic4969
    @undisclosedmusic4969 3 года назад +42

    Say what you want about Lang but DAMN that was good

    • @fareshajjar1208
      @fareshajjar1208 3 года назад +8

      So many dropped notes. No clarity. Shortcuts everywhere. The worst of the lot...

    • @Gardis72
      @Gardis72 3 года назад +9

      Any pianist with those absurd facial expressions loses me....it detracts from the music....

    • @adrianchewygum
      @adrianchewygum 3 года назад +9

      @@fareshajjar1208 I have extreme perfect pitch and I couldn't hear all pitches written on the complicated score. You must be a genius to catch the missing notes!

    • @fareshajjar1208
      @fareshajjar1208 3 года назад +5

      @@adrianchewygum Perfect pitch would add no special ability to hear dropped notes (neither would "extreme perfect pitch"...whatever that is.) I am referencing many years of listening to cLang cLang perform, both love and recorded. My views are shared by thousands. His shortcomings have been widely discussed by critics. It is nothing new.

    • @adrianchewygum
      @adrianchewygum 3 года назад +1

      @@fareshajjar1208 so you're saying "last time"... but based on this performance, you should not be biased...

  • @sebastian9445
    @sebastian9445 3 года назад +9

    Lmaoo that thumbnail 😂😂😂

  • @neilmillensted7723
    @neilmillensted7723 3 года назад +1

    They are all wonderful in their own ways but for unmatched hugeness of sound go to Lazar Berman with Abbado ( audio only ): its quite overwhelming.

  • @garysandiego
    @garysandiego 3 года назад +6

    I’m not going to pretend I know who is best. But Volodos is a beast! I was quite amazed. Bronfman was very good, smooth and balanced. I liked Cho too although I cannot pinpoint why. I like Lang Lang generally and I don’t go along with the haters at all but...I sure am glad he’s not doing the Bugs Bunny at the piano routine anymore. Maturity has its benefits.

  • @alexandershamonin7476
    @alexandershamonin7476 Год назад

    Great thanks You for sowing greatest masters of piano, but we've got - Peter Donohoe, Alfred Cortot, Walter Gieseking; please, listen his Cadenza ossia!!! Yours sincerely, Alexander Shamonin)))

  • @byfrax2371
    @byfrax2371 2 года назад +1

    listening to how pianists play the ossia cadenza is one of the best ways to get a feeling for their character when interpreting

  • @Marko4237
    @Marko4237 3 года назад

    They're all good in their own way. Personally, I prefer to not have any part of the cadenza inaudible or sped though just for showmanship. An example of my 'choice' recording would be Jean Yves Thibaudet w/ Ashkenazy conducting.
    Nice collection! Thanks for sharing

  • @EASYTIGER10
    @EASYTIGER10 3 года назад +1

    To me Bronfman is the king of Rachmaninov 3. No Yuja Wang here, but to be fair I've not seen a recording of her playing Ossia which is surprising given her technique

  • @efghabcd4126
    @efghabcd4126 3 года назад +4

    weissenberg is my most favorite.

  • @mimo-le3ik
    @mimo-le3ik Год назад +1

    i think you should add Trifonov too he plays it beautifully

  • @FrostDirt
    @FrostDirt 3 года назад +8

    Unbelievable to think that Cho was only 17 here... (and to my knowledge, 5 years of piano study)

    • @stravinskyfan
      @stravinskyfan 3 года назад +5

      He started studying piano at 6 and gave his first public performance at 11. So, 11 years of piano study to achieve that level.

    • @eduardovera8162
      @eduardovera8162 3 года назад +5

      @@stravinskyfan wow even like that is a crazy level

  • @javascriptkiddie2718
    @javascriptkiddie2718 Год назад +3

    14:55 This is terrifying!!

  • @andre.vaz.pereira
    @andre.vaz.pereira 3 года назад +5

    Great video! If you want to do a round two of the ossia cadenza i suggest Artur Pizarro (Leeds Competition winning performance), Grygory Sokolov, Rafael Orozco, Denis Matsuev and Yeol Eum Son. Loved the version of Yefim Bronfman (best for me), Cliburn, Volodos, Gavrylyuk, Katsaris, Olga Kern and Seongjin Cho.

    • @zestofpiano3509
      @zestofpiano3509  3 года назад +2

      Thanks, very good propositions, usually I don't like Matsuev

    • @andre.vaz.pereira
      @andre.vaz.pereira 3 года назад +1

      @@zestofpiano3509 Me neither... But the Rach 3 cadenza is very good!! Orozco video recording is miles away from the studio recording but he still nails the cadenza!! Fedorova, Trifonov and Buniatishvli recent live performances are also very good.

    • @dang5874
      @dang5874 3 года назад +1

      Sokolov's Rach 3 is one of my favorites along with Horowitz's, they are so powerful making the lowest and darkest notes of the piano shine

    • @andre.vaz.pereira
      @andre.vaz.pereira 3 года назад

      Also consider Eliso Virsaladze in 1989 live concert. It's on youtube too.

  •  Год назад +2

    It is sad you have not putted the Matsuev interpretation. It was magnificent !

  • @CuratorOfRealities
    @CuratorOfRealities 3 года назад +11

    I've been hooked on this cadenza ever since I first listened to Vladimir Ashkenazy's Decca recordings as a teenager.

    • @botezmi
      @botezmi Год назад

      ...same here but with Lazar Berman-Claudio Abbado recording ruclips.net/video/jgjsBAmedw8/видео.html

  • @auzziePRlDE
    @auzziePRlDE 3 года назад +43

    I don't know how many times I have watched Olga Kern play the whole piece. Truly brilliant.

  • @user-cj7mt7oi2n
    @user-cj7mt7oi2n Год назад +4

    Самая лучшая каденция у Александра Малофеева. Юный восхитительный пианист! Как могли про него забыть?

    • @emilyhutjes
      @emilyhutjes Год назад

      Irina , Look up on YuTube the channel of " Richard" . He posted Rach. 3 by Alexander Malofeev in the USA. He is indeed the best. BRAVO. (Netherlands)

  • @MrJakejonesy
    @MrJakejonesy Год назад

    If only there was a video of Lazar Berman 😥 the Rach 3 GOAT

  • @JanetESmith-er8sk
    @JanetESmith-er8sk 3 года назад +23

    That pause at the end of the Ossia sealed the deal! Heartbreakingly beautiful! Oh Maestro Van Cliburn it’s you!!

    • @oriolsolano3946
      @oriolsolano3946 Год назад

      Totally agree. The only one of them that gave deep expression to the closing of the phrase preceding the pause, and consequently to the pause too. Won by a narrow margin to Volodos

    • @saikalyan3966
      @saikalyan3966 3 месяца назад

      Cliburn is out of the world, the coda of rach3 by him is also by far the best, feels like falling down a large bell tower's staircase

  • @catherinehegazi4440
    @catherinehegazi4440 3 года назад +3

    it's hard not to let the piano "win" -with most of these artists..still listnening.

  • @catherinehegazi4440
    @catherinehegazi4440 3 года назад

    my parents and I watched (and pretty much drooled) in the mid-seventies near Butler in Indianapolis Concert with Cliburn; my dad shared how his mother attended all his concerts, and my mom shared her disappointment in my not being professional.

  • @randomytguy7315
    @randomytguy7315 3 года назад +21

    each one of them are amazing, but olga's cadenza just stroke me like a lighting bolt

    • @michaelwinegarden5443
      @michaelwinegarden5443 3 года назад +3

      I highly recommend watching her entire concerto.
      Her interputtaion is what made me fall in love with Rach 3, and become my favorite piece of music of all times.
      here is a link to her full performence:ruclips.net/video/9AmxZnlRa6Q/видео.html

    • @kosmosyche
      @kosmosyche 11 месяцев назад

      Her cadenza is demonic, as if she was possessed by the spirit of the music itself. I wish there was a proper recording of this performance on a CD, it deserves it.

    • @KarenDesantissCat-uv9hd
      @KarenDesantissCat-uv9hd 6 дней назад

      Not enough power...

  • @bilahn1198
    @bilahn1198 3 года назад +4

    I'm confused. This is the Cadenza you hear 90% of the time. And to me it sounds much more difficult and is much to be preferred and far superior to the other Cadenza I thought this was the regular Cadenza and the Ossia Cadenza was the other one, a simplification. In fact a score that I looked at show this Cadenza as the main Cadenza and the other one in small print above it.
    I do not understand why a top pianist woul play the other Cadenza. Can someone straighten this out for me?
    At any rate when I listen to an unfamiliar recording of this incredible concerto the first thing I do is check the Cadenza. If it is not this one, whatever you call it, I don't listen to the rest.

    • @nicklewisatx
      @nicklewisatx 3 года назад +2

      This was the original cadenza played by Rachmaninoff at the premiere. The lighter one is a revision. Why this one is referred to as the ossia is a mystery to me as well. My best guess is that since Rachmaninoff revised it, the scores marked the original as ossia. Rachmaninoff also made no recordings of him playing the original.
      Either way, the argument I've read for the revision is it works better structurally .. e.g. "too big of a climax in the first movement." Personally, I have no idea what those people are talking about: this cadenza isn't an early climax, it's the "Oh shit!" moment the audience needs exactly at that moment in the first movement. Rachmaninoff had it right the first time IMHO.

    • @bilahn1198
      @bilahn1198 3 года назад +1

      @@nicklewisatx "too big of a climax"? In Rachmaninoff? That's about the stupidest thing I've heard in a long time, but then know it all critics have been saying stupid things about Rachmaninoff ever since he was alive, refusing to believe that music with such wide appeal could also be extremely sophisticated, which it is. That is Rachmaninoff's unique gift.
      Rachmaninoff was known for his self doubt, but he should have told his critics to Drop Dead.
      For me the simpler Cadenza absolutely destroys the first movement, completely dissipating its energy at the very moment you're expecting it to explode on passion, and thus leaving for an unsatisfactory conclusion. The original Cadenza is difficult - just like the rest of the piece. There is no reason whatsoever to use the simplified Cadenza.
      Anyway thanks for your comments and clarification!

    • @brentstahl204
      @brentstahl204 3 года назад

      @@bilahn1198 Everyone can have a preference. I do know from interviews that Horowitz didn't perform the big version version of the cadenza because he thought it musically inferior to the lighter version and it did not fit with the flow of the first movement. Argerich didn't play it either. I think both could have handled the octaves if they wanted to play it.

    • @bilahn1198
      @bilahn1198 3 года назад

      @@brentstahl204 Well I find it astonishing that two artists of the caliber of Horowitz and Argerich would have that opinion. Fortunately the majority of pianists play the original version.

  • @vinylisland6386
    @vinylisland6386 3 года назад +13

    Volodos and Cliburn. Bronfman is also magnificent. Gavrilov's first recording with Fedoseyev had the most stupendous ossia cadenza I have ever heard.

  • @barney6888
    @barney6888 3 года назад +22

    I quite liked the clarity of Seongjin Cho

    • @FrostDirt
      @FrostDirt 3 года назад +7

      And he was only 17 (2011 in the video) at the time, I think he got better. Check out his 2018 recording of Rach 3.

    • @garysandiego
      @garysandiego 3 года назад +6

      He resolves very well to the theme.

    • @yimeizi2648
      @yimeizi2648 3 года назад

      I thought his bass line was not clear at all

    • @barney6888
      @barney6888 3 года назад +5

      @@yimeizi2648 no you didnt

    • @KarenDesantissCat-uv9hd
      @KarenDesantissCat-uv9hd 6 дней назад +1

      But he has no dynamic range. He needs more passion.

  • @fgattorno
    @fgattorno 3 года назад +2

    Very interesting work! congratulations!, I will include RAFAEL OROZCO, from my point of view the clearest and at the same time virtuosity Rachmaninoff Third. Enjoy it.

  • @ronhernandez8857
    @ronhernandez8857 3 года назад

    kudos to the piano makers all over

  • @theenglishalpinist5031
    @theenglishalpinist5031 7 месяцев назад

    Lang Lang goes up in my estimation somewhat. That's what he can do when gets serious.

  • @cantkeepitin
    @cantkeepitin 3 года назад

    Was not aware of the ossia cadenza. Like it much more, the original is too short.

    • @Sathrandur
      @Sathrandur 3 года назад

      Rachmaninov composed the ossia cadenza first, but later wrote the standard cadenza as he felt that what became the ossia cadenza created too much of a climax that he thought architecturally less desirable in the first movement. Nonetheless, he must not have minded too much as he did leave it as an ossia.

  • @mytake3692
    @mytake3692 Год назад +1

    My favorites are Cliburn #1 and Bronfman #2. The others are odd.

  • @temorxavi5400
    @temorxavi5400 3 года назад +66

    Everybody is really good at palying the cadenza but Bronfman each every note is so clear and neat you can hear them all

    • @equilibrio823
      @equilibrio823 3 года назад +4

      The only truth I have read in these comments !

    • @MattSmith-il4tc
      @MattSmith-il4tc Год назад +6

      Not everybody. HJ Lim absolutely butchers it. She misses more notes than she hits... I don't know how that performance is even in this video. It's unlistenable.

    • @KarenDesantissCat-uv9hd
      @KarenDesantissCat-uv9hd 6 дней назад +1

      Actually, he overused the pedal. I say this as a huge fan of his Rach 3.

  • @Gardis72
    @Gardis72 3 года назад +3

    Beautiful video, it would have been a plus to know the performance dates and where these were performed. Just saying.

    • @Jonathan-mn4ss
      @Jonathan-mn4ss 3 года назад

      Information is listed in the description notes.

  • @scrobbl
    @scrobbl 3 года назад +4

    Never forget BYRON JANIS !! one of the best !

    • @zestofpiano3509
      @zestofpiano3509  3 года назад +2

      I wanted to include him but never found video of him playing the rach3

    • @wcsxwcsx
      @wcsxwcsx 3 года назад

      His is my favorite.

    • @bcarr1122
      @bcarr1122 3 года назад

      I've got a CD of Byron Janis playing the 3rd, but he uses the regular cadenza, not the ossia. Did he make a different recording?

    • @wcsxwcsx
      @wcsxwcsx 3 года назад

      @@bcarr1122 I've got him on LP from decades ago.

  • @Entertainer114
    @Entertainer114 3 года назад +9

    Rafael Orozco needed to be included in this list. This was a great lineup and a cool video nonetheless. But I think Orozco did this ossia cadenza so well. Not sure if there's video footage of his recording with the Rotterdam orchestra, but I think he made a stupendous recording of this with them (I know he did Rach 2 with that orchestra, but someone can correct me if he didn't record Rach 3 with them).

    • @MrYupsilon
      @MrYupsilon 3 года назад

      Yeah, his Rach 3 is my favorite one.

  • @catherinehegazi4440
    @catherinehegazi4440 3 года назад

    killin" it (the composer of every mensch) apologetically, thank you Alexander Gavrylyuk? I love you and your parents for giving you Leben; and Seongjin Cho, the composer (picture to your left) smiled on your effort!

  • @davewalker9926
    @davewalker9926 Год назад +5

    omg, I love Natasha Paremski's interpretation! I love how she hits the low and high notes hard at the extreme ends of the range.

  • @MMB.__
    @MMB.__ 3 дня назад

    HJ Lim's interpretation has the most musical sense of all.

  • @chrisiu1369
    @chrisiu1369 3 года назад +1

    the thumbnail haha

  • @user-vf8un5bx6y
    @user-vf8un5bx6y 3 года назад +2

    Somehow I feel Alexis Weissenberg deserves a place here, although I know someone would consider his playing too cold and mechanical.

    • @zestofpiano3509
      @zestofpiano3509  3 года назад +2

      Weissenberg played the regular cadenza, see my other video ruclips.net/video/2f0VXVH_hnk/видео.html

  • @classicalclinician
    @classicalclinician 3 года назад +1

    First, thanks for putting this together! Great comparison. However, my favourite is not included. Daniil Trifonov with Sir Simon Rattle, New Year's Eve 2016 Concert of Berlin Philharmonic Orchestra. And all of Trifonovs energy goes into the music. Not like Lang Lang here, who spends a lot for showmanship and effect (although I think he is a very good player despite this, but best to listen to him without a picture).

    • @OdedeCologne
      @OdedeCologne 3 года назад

      I just looked this up as I really like Trifonov ... the cadenza is a bit too careful, but the flute / oboe / horn soli afterwards (Pahud, etc) are exquisite.

  • @igorkronaveter2428
    @igorkronaveter2428 Год назад +1

    Valentina Lisitsa, Rachmaninoff Concerto No 3 (solo)
    ruclips.net/video/EhEpvIpe-6s/видео.html

  • @fangoodog
    @fangoodog 2 года назад

    沒有對比就沒有傷害。

  • @marcosPRATA918
    @marcosPRATA918 3 года назад +1

    Isso é bem interessante para a escuta comparativa.

  • @Franz_Liszt_Korean
    @Franz_Liszt_Korean 3 года назад +3

    Great thumbnail

  • @miriamprince7479
    @miriamprince7479 9 месяцев назад

    Está faltando Daniil Trifonov❗️
    Ele é referência preciosa na execução desse magnífico Comcerto‼️

  • @rmpelnilschen130
    @rmpelnilschen130 4 года назад +11

    How long have I been looking for a video of that kind xD
    Thank you very much

  • @ashleycole2836
    @ashleycole2836 3 года назад +7

    I wish malofeev was on this list

    • @Paroles_et_Musique
      @Paroles_et_Musique 3 года назад +5

      he is so young, doesn't match those on this video

    • @deoxyanpoochyena9560
      @deoxyanpoochyena9560 3 года назад

      he may be but in a very long time from now

    • @daninza2310
      @daninza2310 3 года назад +2

      @@deoxyanpoochyena9560
      BS

    • @daninza2310
      @daninza2310 3 года назад +2

      @@Paroles_et_Musique
      BS

    • @michaelearendil6843
      @michaelearendil6843 3 года назад +1

      In Alexander Malofeev's famous video of this piece (nearly 1 million views), he did make an error at around 12:00, but his passion, sensitivity, and lyrical brilliance makes his version my favorite. He is a young genius.

  • @ransomcoates546
    @ransomcoates546 3 года назад +5

    Has anyone played it without a single wrong note?

    • @petermetrinko607
      @petermetrinko607 3 года назад +1

      That's a great question. Another is - has anyone played the entire 3rd without a wrong note? One problem with assessing that is that the orchestra drowns out a lot of the playing, and the piano music by itself is beautiful. So I'd suggest visiting Valentina Lisitsa's page where she has, among other things, her unedited recordings of her playing the 3rd (and the 1st and 2nd) unaccompanied.

    • @rainchen7846
      @rainchen7846 3 года назад +1

      @@petermetrinko607 I mean in playing I always believe there is a certain opportunity cost between accuracy and musicality/expression. If you put too much emphasize into accuracy, then you will lack musicality, and vice versa.

    • @jfpary7336
      @jfpary7336 2 года назад +1

      Humanly impossible to play without wrong notes.

    • @mariakim-tn4px
      @mariakim-tn4px 4 дня назад

      Yunchan Lim .

  • @marshall62020
    @marshall62020 3 года назад +6

    Van Cliburn BRAVO!!!!

  • @MicoAquinoComposer
    @MicoAquinoComposer 2 года назад +10

    Katsaris's playing is breathtaking. Beautifully played.

  • @Chima4289
    @Chima4289 Год назад +21

    I have listen to many renditions of this famous Ossia, but was stunned by Cyprien Katsaris. Actually, never heard of him… Bravo!!!!

    • @gixelz
      @gixelz 7 месяцев назад +3

      never heard of katsaris after listening to a bunch of classical? what has youtube done to you

  • @user-bs6bg2bs6g
    @user-bs6bg2bs6g 3 года назад

    lazar berman where?

  • @rigel48
    @rigel48 3 года назад +23

    For me the keyword of this cadenza is grandeur. No flashy technical displays with unsteady tempos but a constant majestic flow with a mastered virtuosity which leads to a grand and powerful climax.
    In this respect I find Van Cliburn and Bronfman the best and HJ LIm the least convincing.
    I would add that if this ossia cadenza taken alone is extremly impressive, I think that the regular cadenza suits far better the spirit of the concerto.

    • @joegoetz2024
      @joegoetz2024 3 года назад +2

      Andre Watts did a hybrid cadenza...starts out with the regular one, then switches to the Ossia before the huge chords come in

    • @swanee9599
      @swanee9599 3 года назад +3

      I have to disagree. I believe HJ Lim's performance was very controlled and perfectly captured the boldness of this concerto. Its exhilarating, fiery, and courageous - as the cadenza should be. I don't believe Rach's 3rd concerto is one to be played lightly. Perhaps you are not used to seeing female pianist display such assertiveness.

    • @rigel48
      @rigel48 3 года назад +7

      @@swanee9599 Martha Argerich has displayed plenty of assertiveness for much longer than HJ Lim.

    • @mlaux72
      @mlaux72 3 года назад

      This why Sergei put this one in the "ossia" and not viceversa :)

  • @evifnoskcaj
    @evifnoskcaj Год назад +8

    Olga Kern and Arcadi Volodos hold nothing back and I love that. This passage requires passion, a willingness to absolutely crush the piano and yet have these beautiful and soaring melody lines, and have huge dynamic range. Rachmaninoff also demands for sweeping rubato, which was all over his playing and interpretations as well, so you can't simply blow through this.
    Of these selections, I agree with the crowd on this one: Yefim Bronfman absolutely crushed it. Wondeful sense of style, great phrasing, good dynamic range and control, excellent clarify for such a rich and chordal section, and wonderful passion, not some cartoonish animation like the person that followed. 💯😂❤

    • @evifnoskcaj
      @evifnoskcaj Год назад

      Seongjin Cho deserves very high praise as well, especially under the gaze of Tchaikovsky. 😂 He played very well in all aspects of the piece. I hope he won that Tchaikovsky comp. Oh...3rd prize? Well, a performance like that is well deserving of a high place!

  • @militaryandemergencyservic3286
    @militaryandemergencyservic3286 4 года назад +13

    as someone who has played this version, I can say that Freddy Kempff's version is the best I've heard (it's not on this list but it is on youtube). However, I prefer the other cadenza which is apparently harder. I studied this version with Muza.

    • @LC-ig2jm
      @LC-ig2jm 4 года назад +13

      As a classical pianist, I know this cadenza well. Bang Bang(Lang Lang) played it the fastest and accurately. While Van Cliburn made a lot of mistakes.
      Yekim Bronfman is my favorite pianist for the complete Rach3 (the poster misspelled his name as Bronstein). Bronfman also ranks among the best for his interpretation of the Tchaikovsky 1.

    • @lucaslorentz
      @lucaslorentz 3 года назад +1

      @@LC-ig2jm no, orozco had played it faster then lang lang

    • @judynelson5038
      @judynelson5038 3 года назад +3

      @@lucaslorentz
      In this video, Lang Lang, by far. I'm not even his fan. But there's no competition.

    • @lucaslorentz
      @lucaslorentz 3 года назад

      @@judynelson5038 no bruh just like at the time of lang and orozco , despite orozco made some mistakes he played it faster and btw im not comparing whos better

  • @PersnicketyRed
    @PersnicketyRed 2 года назад +10

    Van Cliburn is all I will ever need. My heart still holds this beautiful Texan, so close! 🥰

  • @sydneyscarlett4198
    @sydneyscarlett4198 3 года назад +36

    Lang Lang gave me chills.

    • @Pogouldangeliwitz
      @Pogouldangeliwitz 3 года назад +5

      He definitely needs to be given a musical treatment

    • @fareshajjar1208
      @fareshajjar1208 3 года назад +10

      He's a cruise ship pianist. The Liberace of the classical world. The most overrated pianist in history.

    • @lahouit
      @lahouit 3 года назад +1

      Fares Hajjar Thank you! Almost buffoonish.

    • @Pogouldangeliwitz
      @Pogouldangeliwitz 3 года назад +2

      @@fareshajjar1208 A cruise ship pianist for the Yellow Sea...

    • @jfpary7336
      @jfpary7336 2 года назад +1

      In my humble opinion Lang is overdoing it...

  • @juhyunkim3438
    @juhyunkim3438 3 года назад +1

    감사합니다♡

  • @jifangzhang2832
    @jifangzhang2832 3 года назад +2

    14:33 hahahahahahaha. best emoji ever

  • @Paganini-Liszt
    @Paganini-Liszt Год назад

    6:58 | Volodos is about to cry

  • @micaelabonetti949
    @micaelabonetti949 3 года назад +1

    Where is Mikhail Pletnëv???

  • @TwelfthRoot2
    @TwelfthRoot2 11 месяцев назад +2

    from this video: gavrylyuk, bronfman, lang lang, volodos. i also think sgouros at 15 years old makes top 3 and matsuev is top 4.

  • @jannis11
    @jannis11 2 года назад

    noice

  • @jimmydelrosario60
    @jimmydelrosario60 3 года назад

    Where is the famous Filipina pianist cecile Licad?

  • @MrPGOLIVEIRA
    @MrPGOLIVEIRA 3 года назад +37

    Van Cliburn aos 23 anos, um fenômeno de talento.

  • @perappelgren948
    @perappelgren948 3 года назад +7

    Van Cliburn does astonishingly well!

  • @tsc7589
    @tsc7589 2 года назад +1

    Lang Lang is the GOAT

  • @possisvideos
    @possisvideos 2 года назад

    1. Bronfman, 2. Kern, 3. Gavrylyuk

  • @PoeCompany
    @PoeCompany 3 года назад

    That thumbnail

  • @chrisiu1369
    @chrisiu1369 3 года назад +34

    katsaris's voicing in 4:40 absolutely beautiful

    • @fareshajjar1208
      @fareshajjar1208 3 года назад +4

      Rachmaninoff has so many inner voices for a gifted interpreter to bring out.

    • @jfpary7336
      @jfpary7336 2 года назад +1

      Yes!!

    • @InfiniteClouds
      @InfiniteClouds 2 года назад +3

      Glad someone else noticed - best of the bunch for me.

    • @herobrine1847
      @herobrine1847 10 месяцев назад

      He brought out the red on the edges of the video

  • @stefanbuchberger1166
    @stefanbuchberger1166 Год назад

    Trifonov version could be added

  • @K43TOC
    @K43TOC 3 года назад +1

    Lang Lang

  • @geuros
    @geuros 3 года назад +29

    In this list, Volodos and Bronfman share the #1 for me, Van Cliburn #3, Cho #4.

    • @billmarrufo
      @billmarrufo 2 года назад

      Agreed, in the same order you mention!

    • @rr4tb4rtr46
      @rr4tb4rtr46 2 года назад

      you have to try Lazer Berman

  • @stevenvinson1615
    @stevenvinson1615 6 месяцев назад +14

    Volodos is just wild. There is nobody that posseses the power he has. It's crushing.

    • @stevenvinson1615
      @stevenvinson1615 6 месяцев назад +2

      And Bronfman. He still pours it out, but he maintains the rhythmic integrity like nobody else.

    • @franksmith541
      @franksmith541 6 месяцев назад +1

      I saw Tzimon Barto play this live. I swear the piano moved a bit under the weight of his playing. His chords in the ossia were like cast bronze. Big fellow with huge hands. I also saw Volodos play this in concert, and both his power and virtuosity were not on the scale of Tzimon Barto.

    • @EttorealbertoGelli-vr6sz
      @EttorealbertoGelli-vr6sz 2 месяца назад

      Volodos Is a giant but 1 only SCHUBERT Impromptus Is more than all the works of Rachmaninov

  • @partituravid
    @partituravid 3 года назад +17

    No Kissin!?!? For me, Gavrylyuk blows away everyone else - the transitions between sections are carefully thought out and paced. The harmonic outlines and areas are clear, with delineation of the chords'relationships, progressions and significance. The melodic line is sustained by de-emphasizing chords that, while massive, support the melody. Everyone else's massive chords all have equal importance.
    This is impressive for the beautiful transitions as well as architecturally, tonally, musically, conceptually. With beauty AND strength - actual music- the only place most of these people think about dynamics is the shift to C minor - too little too late. Gavrylyuk is dynamically shaping all the time so there are arcs.
    I think the conductor for Olga Kern might be James Conlon?

    • @alis1637
      @alis1637 Год назад

      Agreed, but keep in mind he has the benefit of a more modern sound recording system