Secret THPS3 skater found after 20 years
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- Опубликовано: 30 сен 2024
- Like the Korean version of Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 2, the Japanese version of Pro Skater 3 added some exclusive skaters of it's own, only one wasn't discovered for 20 years.
This was the first video I ever wrote a script for..
Gamecube save file (J):
mega.nz/file/J...
Playstation save file (J):
mega.nz/file/g...
Note:
If you're some of the few using the raw script instead, make sure to extract the game files with dolphin itself / run the DOL binary instead of using GCRebuilder, as it doesn't seem to build the game properly. mainmenu.qb belongs in scripts/qb.pre, that's where you need to inject it.
The auto-load sequence cancels out the flag setting, so you'll need to enter a level and them back out to reload the main menu properly, for the flag to actually get set.
Thanks everyone for the kind words and support, I honestly wasn't expecting to even reach 500 views. I still dislike hearing my own voice, lol.
Update #1:
Japanese PS2 save file now available.
This is always wild. I wonder how long it will be before everything for every ps2 game is found. Seems like every 3-6 months something thats been hidden for "15+ years" gets magically found as of more recent years
This video was suggested on my RUclips home page.
@@awhvex7188 I would like to know the contents of every game really, but PS2 isn't super mod friendly and it takes time to research formats and develop tools. I imagine a lot of my favorite games have at least something unused.
@@VilifiedOne thats alot of "miniscule" knowledge for one person 🫡
Its crazy that you gave me a response around this time, i have been using dolphin emulator on my phone and have been playing pokemon rumble wii, that game only released with gen 1 and gen 4 pokemon but in 2020 a hard pokemon fan and pokemon rumble player thought that gen 2 and gen 3 pokemon were suppose to be in the game, come to his suprise that with a little bit of fiddling in the code and porting the models over from other games that use similar models gen 2 and gen 3 worked flawlessly and added about 200 extra pokemon to the game aswell as their shiny variants.
The name "Sukehachi" is probably a pun for "Skate".
Skateboard = スケートボード
Suke(to) = スケー(ト) = Skate
Hachi = 八 = 8
Sukehachi = Sk8 = Skate
Just my theory
Lol rad
Definitely correct!
That's absolutely what it is
The Japanese do love combining words and puns in general, makes sense.
@@Ktjnn I don't think I've ever met a person that doesn't like (good) word play.
"Always hard neversoft" is the best motto I've heard so far
Realest motto of them all.
The Japan-exclusive skaters need to be ported to the PC version as a mod
They have been, but without their videos. I've been porting them to XBOX, as that's my preferred way to play. (video coming soon)
Wonder if they'll somehow end up on THUG Pro at some point.
@@Mateus_Carvalho And reTHAWed if someone requested 10K Rising to be put in the update 4.1 or 4.2.
@@VilifiedOneis a modded og xbox needed? i only have a base console
@@foally8485 You can also use XEMU. Tony Hawk 3 runs flawless at 60fps under XBOX emulation, if your PC is decent enough.
Brother, this is your "first video you ever wrote a script for?"
Fuck me, you're gonna enjoy your time here if this is how you come out the gate, swinging.
Thank you so much!! I tried my best, as I pretty much never commentate anything -- most of my channel up until this point was just throwaway videos.
@@AntiJewluminatiDwarf Imagine taking you the slightest bit seriously, Captain Dogwhistle. Nice name, you f*cking block of concrete.
You're a Flat Earther for Christ's sake. What would you know about being the actual first in history to explore ANYTHING? My man has less than 1k subs, got blessed by the algorithm, knows how to mod game files, and compiled a working version of the game's missing skater, and is the first person (that we know) to do it in the 23 years the game came out. You post conspiracy shorts.
I'd say have a seat, but just eat the fucking whole chair dude.
youtube algo actually recommended solid content here, great job on the video. Well spoken, well written, well read. 10/10
I really appreciate it, thank you very much! :)
@@VilifiedOne I agree, and just to point out the number of 👍.
TIL about Save Game Collection Disks.
more
We need these models ripped for THUGpro and reThawed, please🙏
I’m making beef brisket tonight. Probably.
Did you?
@@Danny__Noble LOL
You sound boring 😊
Was it good?
@@RawrStickers I ended up smoking a chicken. Sooooo good. Applewood.
I wish we could get 3+4 🥺
what dashboard is this, I've never seen a LIBRARY option in any PS2 console.
FreeHDBoot configured to look stock.
Finally good quality content
That’s pretty awesome
Love this!!
Very good video
Mind. Blown.
Good stuff
Got my sub
Those shmup themed boards are pretty rad
if they ported Cotton-related boards I would have lost my shit that a franchise I learned about in obscure sega import collecting made a cameo in my favorite games as an American child.
I think a pin up of Silk might have actually been pretty fitting deck lol.
Hell yeah!
that tokyo map with the never ending slide around 😎
This is so rare 🥶
Fuckin dope ass video first time I've been schooled on thps in along time
This game needs to be on the PlayStation cloud.
I loved this game as a kid, spent many hours over the years I remember I could unlock multiple stages in 1 run
At 5:30 is that supposed to be Claude from gta3? How random.
That's my create-a-skater at the moment.
@@VilifiedOne aaaaye, big fire bro!
Rad video :]
0:39 No doubt one of only a small handful of non-rpg games where the smaller data storage of the GameCube was actually a problem. Most games were not large enough to require anything more then 1.46GB. However, I have to wonder if perhaps some developers chose to limit their multi-platform games to 1.46GB to avoid the issue of having to choose to either not release a GameCube version, cut a bunch of content to make it fit onto a GameCube disc (which would obviously make for a rather butchered release, although you could try to make up for it somewhat with exclusive content), or split the game up into 2 or more discs.
If I'm not mistaken, the PS3 version of Final Fantasy XIII was released on a single blu-ray disc, but since the 360 was still using the outdated DVD's it's version of the game required 3 discs. Thankfully, this sort of thing isn't really an issue anymore. X-Box and Playstation both use the same format, and although the Switch uses a very different format, it's game cards go up to 60GB which is a little more then the 50GB a dual layered blu-ray can hold. Not sure if they're making games big enough to need 4K blu-rays yet, but I guess if they are Nintendo would need to make bigger game cards. Switch is on it's last legs anyway though, and I'm sure Switch's successor will have bigger cards.
Never even knew that Japanese versions had exclusive skaters
Huh. Neat.
Would really really love to see a Gamecube Action Replay code for this, I still play everything in my stock 'cube, and would love to have this one in my collection!
You could use something like a Memory Card Pro to transfer the save to a stock cube, Wii is also incredibly quick to softmod. You can use GCMM to copy the save to your card.
You're right though, would be very cool.
@@VilifiedOne I don't have a moddable wii on hand, nor the funds to get them just for the saves. C'est la vie
It's a huge bummer the GC AR scene is only basically ran by Ralf on GC Forever. There's gonna be a day Ralf is gone, and that only knowledge of gamecube hacking'll be dead
SHOUT OUT HIROKI goofy supreme
Shoutout to Hiroki for also rocking dreads
Tabarnack que c'est cool
Careful with the song for the gameplay. Might get flagged for copy wright!
It was the very second the video went live :)
Toruny Hawkuuu
I berive en riuuuu !
5:29 Wait, they had a GTA3 tie in with Claude?
No, that's my create-a-skater.
Interesting. I lived here in Osaka half my life and my Jaoan ps2 collection is everything i can dream about i bave this but never knew this. Now it makes me wonder if there is something like this on the Japanese Def Jam Fight for New York because there were exclusive Japanese only characters on there too.
It would be really great to see another character like this, especially if the game was published by success. An interesting time to be alive.
man, that's cool as hell. We're kind of a lucky community that, firstly we know about this, but also so much talent is in here that lets everyone experience it. I'm just a fairly casual THPS fan, but it seems every few months someone invites me to put on a new pair of socks so they can blow them off once again. The story behind this one is cool, I had no idea save discs were a thing
That outro caught me off guard lol
Always hard! 💪
now i'm wondering which ps2s have the library option on the main menu?
None. FHDB configured to look stock.
5:30 I'm sorry, is this Claude from GTA III???
Yes :) That's my create-a-skater setup, at the moment.
Wow! Amazing! After 20+ years with the THPS franchise and a highly dedicated modding community I thought there was nothing else to find. Guess I was proven wrong, good job man!
Why... did you capture gameplay without licensed music, only to add licensed music back in lol.
I mean it's fine I'm just confused.
Also imagine Kyroptonite in THPS that actually goes hard lol I didn't expect it to work
Because I am sick of the soundtrack right now, I've heard it too much this week.
I usually use custom soundtracks, but that's an XBOX feature, no Gamecube.
Hi I have a question about the Dengeki save files, it seems to be VERY NICHE ps2 history and I was wondering if there is a source for all the save files on there, or if anybody perhaps knows of any other weird secrets on there
I don't think they've ALL been compiled together, but every disc is available online and there are a few official collections, like Dengeki 2006 which I personally used.
As for secrets, possibly but that would take forever to comb through. Dengeki is mostly just completed save files or "special" item unlocks.
There is definitely a way to mod the PlayStation 2 games. There is a bunch of Soul Calibur 3 hacks. None of them would run on OPL though.
All I know is PS2 games can be LBA hell. Not all games require specific addresses, sizes and checksums, but some do; Not sure about tony hawk.
I think, like Dolphin, a PS2 game can be ran as an extracted ELF, so I might look into that. It's enough to make a save file, anyway.
What THPS1,3,4 & THUG 1/2 secrets are there? On the JPN release
Only 3 has additional content in Japan. Two has additional content in South Korea, however.
THUG2 and THAW were not released in Japan, but we're released in Singapore; Other than the cover, it's just the American versions of the game but NTSC-J disc pressing.
Library?!
FreeHDBoot configured to look stock.
algorithm just recommended me this elite channel. i haven’t seen this mentioned anywhere. could you do a video on those ps2 save collections. i never even knew that was a thing you could do
Appreciate the support; I'll consider making a dedicated video, I'm just in the middle of rebuilding a desktop currently.
Awesome video buddy! I highly reccomend taking the music out of your video or they will clip you if you can get monitized eventually
I appreciate the concern, but I've no interested in being monetized on RUclips, nor any kind of partnership with them for the record.
why the hell does your PS2 bios have a second button
You mean third, the library option is the not normal one
I just thought of something. You thing there are Japanese RUclipsrs who go over the same type of stuff but for the American versions of games? 🤔
In the 90s to mid 2000s, Japanese made games would always get released in Japan first, later publishing North American versions with bug fixes, or sometimes newer content. A good example is Jet Grind Radio, which had a new story and two new levels in the US/PAL territory.
A lot of these cases also have re-released in Japan based on our versions, like De La Jet Set Radio.. Sonic Adventure international to name a few. I'm sure there are people and forums that discuss these changes, maybe videos too on sites like Nico Nico.
It's kind of funny how the last decade has been the total opposite.
5:30 There is Claude from GTA3 here rly? Or is it some kind of mod?
That's my create-a-skater.
Ive played the Korean THPS2 version but never heard about a Japanese THPS3 before. Are there any other Japanese releases?
There are, but none of them are any interesting, in terms of extra content.
Dam this brings back a lot of memories with my first serious girlfriend, we spent hours on this and were so excited for underground when it came out
I was really excited for THAW, personally. good times.
Hey whats that Library Option after System Configuration?
Modded PS2? Browser 2.0? what functionality does it have just out of curiosity
FreeHDBoot configured to look stock; Shortcut to OPL.
@@VilifiedOne oh ok thanks for info 😁 just got confused as browser 2.0 have library In browser itself, I have similar stock fhdb setup just more options
Nice and sneaky 😁
Great video!
Thanks so much!!
"The skater lost to time" is a subtitle that goes so damn hard
A good anime name 😂
Why your BIOS have Library in it?
FreeHDBoot configured to look stock
Definitely seems like a obscure easter egg. Similar to the cheat codes for the pre-made custom skaters
That's definitely the feeling I got as well, those pre-made skaters take up the created skater slot however, where as sukahachi has a unique slot in the master skater list.
Do you use a PSX (PS2 DVR) so that's why there's the library option in the PS2 main menu?
FHDB configured to look stock.
@@VilifiedOne dope, is it worth using over FreeMCBoot, that's what I currently use
IDK if I'm racis-t or what but I thought they literally used the exact same face for all 3 of the pro Japanese skaters for a second. I have to put my face to the screen to tell them apart.
Hearing the makers of a franchise as strange as Cotton series was connected to Tony Hawk is also wild!
The textures are different, but all of them have the same head mesh that the face texture is mapped to.
@@VilifiedOne probably that combined with the textures not being scanned as well as the Americans perhaps.
I looked for IRL photos and they're way more distinct looking then the game
Theres a lot of unique DLC esque content released through gaming magazine CDs that nobody knows about. I have one that adds a small island to Morrowind on Xbox
Ayyyy that's pretty sick. I only ever remember the game saves
This was a thing with Japanese mags. Dreamcast magazine had new moves for Fire Pro Wrestling D for example.
Its a game save on a CD like all the others, from an America magazine. Not sure how they pulled off adding a whole island (it is pretty small) but I've seen people theorize they probably used a hex editor, or some kind of deeper save editor, to edit the save file so that there's extra content on the file thats not in the original game
Is there a name for this island? I love Morrowind and would like to learn more about this
@fgfhjfhjfbhfghf5771 I sold my old Xbox, so I can't check out the old save file right now, but I'll give you some info on the CD. It's from Xbox Magazine November 2003, labeled disc #24. On the back of the box it's just named Morrowind "treasure hunt" in the download center column. From what I remember, the island was super tiny off one of the coasts, in the corner of the map. It had a tomb with some unique enchanted items inside. I don't think the island had a name, but the tomb was probably named something. I also found some more unique enchanted items in the one of the guilds in either Aldruhn or Viviec. The enchantments weren't unique or anything, they were just standard enchanted weapons/armor with unique names. In all honesty, the additions were a little underwhelming, so after seeing the island, I mostly forgot about it and went about the normal game. There could be more stuff added that I didn't bump into though.
Neat. Since there’s an actual flag to be triggered for the unlock instead of hacking together unfinished data, a simple AR code should be able to flip the flag on the JPS2 version without needing a full mod. The challenge is, of course, *finding* that flag in memory.
Reminds me of another THPS thing that’s known to exist but has no clean footage and little documentation: Disney’s Extreme Skate Adventure (essentially a level pack for THPS4 with licensed characters, same engine and all) has some implemented but unused costume part options for the CAS. One otherwise unused part is loaded as a placeholder on the title screen, but texture files indicate a few others.
I'm aware of this game and played it in my youth, TH4 isn't too different from 3 so I may be able to script for it; Even easier since there's an XBOX version.. I'll consider checking it out.
As for PS2, I hadn't thought of a memory patch which is kind of funny considering I grew up with an Action Replay disc.. oh well. I'm pretty inexperience in this area, so I'm of no help here but it would be really great if someone made the effort to do this. On the PS2 side of things, I've been comparing the dengeki save to "new" and "slightly uses" saves in gameplay, trying to see if I can piece together a few addresses, as I've experience with writing save editing tools. Never done it for a console game before but maybe it'll happen..
I love the way you're explaining this like we just got a few den geki disks laying around in a draw or whatever 🤣
very cool stuff tho!
To be fair, all of them have been backed up online :)
@@VilifiedOne well that shows me, then!
Really happy this popped up in my recommended. No clickbait, thoroughly researched and explained well, and I learned something today about one of my fav games series - THPS
A new reveal for THPS3 in 2024? Thank you!
Someone needs to send this to Nick Robinson so he can start digging into who the character is based on.
I don't think it's anyone specific, someone below had a decent theory as to what the name could mean; It's a detail I wish I had picked up / included in my video, solid theory.
I thought Nick Robinson was funny at first, but that dude has some problems...
the ps2 version should be able to be fixed via ram editing.
Someone else mentioned that. It would be nice to see an action replay code, so we can finally get a proper PS2 save file; You're welcome to try.
@@VilifiedOne funny enough i work over at retroachievements and could actually give it a good go, but sadly we cant really 'edit' ram values on a permanent basis with our tools. if i get time i will have a look into this, butt im sure someone else from RA has already thought about this.
@@flipmostyles2583You would only need to do it long enough to create a save file, as his unlock flag is in the save table.
Can someone elaborate on the Library button in the PS2 BIOS?
FreeHDBoot configured to look stock
oh nice!
Does the JPN version have Kriptonite by 3 Doors Down in its soundtrack or did you edit that in? I don't remember that song being in the American version
Edited in, 5:45 I put a note in the corner. :) Footage didn't have music, all I had on hand lol.
@@VilifiedOne hunh, thought something felt wrong. the song just felt.... out of place. Like it wasn't being rendered by the same hardware as the game audio.
@@marhawkman303 It was the only song I had on hand that fit the gameplay, but for sure, it doesn't sound compressed at all.
@@VilifiedOneI used to have a custom soundtrack with that song on my Xbox back in the day so it fits for me 😂
I have it on my XBOX as well lol, that's the only reason I had it on hand.
This is an extremely cool find, excellent video! I wonder if other THPS games have hidden skaters?
The PS1 version of THPS4 has Bam Margera as a fry cook.
@@VilifiedOne Lol, just googled it then. Absolute perfection.
It's pretty neat tho sadly unused. I believe it was an inside joke because the GBA version also as a non-bam fry cook that (I recall) is unlockable.
@@VilifiedOneHow strange haha. I love it when things like this are discovered.
Nice video. I did a brief research to see if the Japanese community was aware of this character. I could only find a post from 2002 which predates the Dengeki save file. Original text is
日本語化や日本人キャラプラス意外に変化がないと
思ってたら微妙に違ってた。
２１回クリア後にNeversoft Eyeballってキャラが出たんだけど
そこでオリジナルキャラのSUKEHACHIも登場。
サクセスのＴシャツ着てるけどこのキャラは一体…。
The key part of the above being "after 21 times clearing, Neversoft Eyeball and original character SUKEHACHI was unlocked. He's wearing an Access t-shirt, but what is this character".
Perhaps the character was hidden in plain sight.
I also located the original issue of Dengeki the save data was on. It was Dengeki Playstation D57 (February 2003). I hope this helps.
Only the Neversoft eyeball is unlocked. I looked in the unlock scrips, as well as 100% the game legitimately, so I'm not sure about this post.
Thanks for telling me the original Dengeki disc, as well!
That discord convo made me lol,
"It doesn't exist"
*shows personal copy*
"Fair enough"
"Hold my beer"
Cool video, i love nostalgic video games. Happy your video got recommended to me. You sir earned another subscriber. Great content!
Keep making A class videos like this and you'll grow in no time flat. That was very well edited and extremely informative. Also, congrats on making a video on something I've never seen before. Just absolutely amazing all the way around. Great job! 😁
Great job! Subbed
This is so cool, thank you for sharing!
I'm noticing from your video that THPS3 apparently uses different trick string fonts between the JP PS2 and JP GCN versions. Wonder why that is!
Actually didn't notice until you pointed it out, rather strange. Both of the fonts are bitmap fonts to my knowledge, but perhaps the Gamecube version was the least of their concern considering no videos for the new skaters. Even though I mentioned the disk space, compression was really good back then; Overall lazy.
So glad this dropped in my recommended. Keep making content!
I had no idea different regions of THPS had different skaters, let alone one hidden. Great vid!
For sure! The original game has some songs replaced in Europe, one of them is "No Time to Waste" by Aim ft. YZ... the other one was something sky by Aqua I think?
It's very cool to see, but I would have loved the Japanese pros regardless, and that's why I published the XBOX mod.
How do I spell the name of these disks? I’m going to need to find out what that initial d special stage file is. Interesting video!
Never-mind saw it in another comment. Now I need to find out!
@@BGNADSI'd love to know what you find, there's some others saves in there as well that I'm planning on checking out too.
@@VilifiedOne update it was a weird played through save file with story mode completed on the easiest setting to unlock a car. Very strange. Other unlockables still locked
this is so cool, thanks for the video and discovery!
I'm glad you enjoyed, I appreciate the support!
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I appreciate it, glad you enjoyed the video. :)
Anthony Trujillo is a skater I barely played as in Tony Hawks American Wasteland
Behind every cool video game discovery is 5 discord mods all saying it doesn't exist.
Thank you for this, I heard about this for a long time I’m glad someone figured it out
My man really made his RUclips script debut by giving a history lesson, demonstration, and gift to the gaming community all at once. Real King hours.
I really appreciate that man, one hell of a compliment. It means everything to me, thanks for your support!!
this was a crazy algo recommendation
This is incredibly cool and super interesting. I have never heard about this before, thought I knew everything about these games. Super awesome.
Very well made, I look forward to more of your vids
Wow very interesting... couldn't you use a trainer like cheat device or action replay or game shark for the ps2 to get him? You can create
/ add your own codes. Pretty outdated but i wouldn't be surprised if its either possible or has already been done in Japan.
Somebody already mentioned this, and it's a good idea, however I personally have zero experience with memory editing. Someone else will need to take on this challenge, by comparing a new save vs a dengeki save in memory and see exactly what changes. Given nearly everything is complete on the dengeki, it will take much more time.
Damn, time flys. I remember when THPS was BIG, like Call of Duty from 2007 to what, 2012. THPS3 was THE game that got me and my big bro to buy a PS2. (well that and then I knew about MGS2). I've just kind of grown out of those kinds of games though. I tried to get into the THPS 1 + 2 Remake, but I just lost interest. I'd rather play games like FF7 Remake and God of War.
I think everyone in the community lost Interest in 1+2, it's a rather soulless facade.
We found him boys. We did it.
Let's goooo, banger of a video my friend.
So sick! Algo did me justice here lol
Respect for adding the save file too. I have a emulated disc drive and mem card pro for my gamecube. The fact i could just pop this in is awesome.
Have a GCLoader and a X16 madcatz card, myself.
You're very welcome, I hope I can get a non-Dengeki PS2 going save eventually.
Thanks for making this video! Very cool 😎
Good video
Dude... Square Eyed Jack gonna HATE you for this video... He's gotta make a whole new review now LMAO
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