To me it comes across as more of a "I've seen some shit and it changed me" kind of calm. Could be my bias though. Either way congrats to him for getting to where he is now.
In 2006, I retired from the Air Force with full pension at age 42. I moved to Thailand and haven't worked a day since. My monthly investment income is 2-3 x my monthly pension -- held primarily in mutual funds. I continue to reinvest fully half of my income every month. The key is not how much you make, it's how much you keep.
yeah same really Ive been retired from military for 9 years since being 25 and I don't get bored. Maintaining financial discipline with even just 50k p/a I live as well as people with double that and have a nest egg investment. Just time to finally leave the west and Thailand is looking pretty good these days.
Great interview, Evan sounds like a very interesting guy/lifestyle! Any chance you could do this once a year at least to talk about investing, how is new life is in Dubai
The hardest part of expat living for me was how to manage boredom. How to understand that everyday is not vacation and learning how to develop a daily routine. Once I became content with coffee shops, malls, gyms, etc, I had the time of my life meeting new people and planning spontaneous trips to other countries.
You def need to find activities/part time work/teaching/volunteering to teach English...I can only do coffee shops, beaches, and parks for maybe 3-4 weeks before I am ready to get back to work as the boredom kicks in...
Kind of the same as me. I never wanted to be anything "higher" than a Master Sergeant because it would put me behind a desk, and I wanted to run operations! I used my military housing allowance to buy, not rent. Then when I would get reassigned I had a property management company rent the property out for me. Did that twice, wish I did it more. Volunteered for assignments where I got hostile fire pay. Did lots of long hours. 12 hours? On deployments it was working from after you had breakfast until you went to sleep. You were so busy you didn't even notice it. Also while Stateside I sacrificed, living cheap, paying off those mortgages. I had some great adventures! After the military, I worked as a military contractor doing the same things, still paying down those mortgages. I ended up retiring as a Master Sergeant with the income of a Colonel. Life is good and I'm in Turkey now, but should be permanently located to Chiang Mai, Thailand, next month. I just wish I could explain my strategy to young soldiers today!
Awesome story! When I was an E-2 stationed in Monterey the guy who ran the gym was a retired enlisted guy. He had bought a house or two at every duty station and was loaded. Get rich slowly but surely. Also, I LOVE Turkey. Best food in the world, IMO.
Just came across your channel and this was great to hear. My wife and I were able to leave our 9-5 jobs at 28 and are excited to explore Europe and south east asian over the next year. Keep up the good content.
I was recently medically retired from the Navy and am very well off at only 29. I was thinking about moving to Thailand and came across your videos, thank you for the tips.
I lived in that shipping container as a soldier in Iraq and contractor in Afghanistan. I know that life well and mad respect because most guys over there never use their income made this wisely 👏🏽
This is great, I’m ex navy, working overseas for the government on a contract, rents paid for, I don’t pay taxes and I have no debt, I’m so fortunate! Looking to do this for 5-6 more years and then doing what this guy did. Great video!
Thank you Forrest and Evan for this great video! I have found your channel to be extremely helpful when I was in the military and continue to find it extremely helpful now that I am out of the military. You cover a wide range of topics that are so great for service members and veterans alike and I really like how you're bringing in different people to share their experiences as well. I look forward to learning more from your videos!
I've been deployed multiple times to Middle East, Africa and to Asia in uniform (26yrs) and as a contractor. Yes, you can make a lot of tax-free money. I've met many people have done it and still doing it. Some of them retired in Thailand and Philippines at a very young age. They have passive income and drawing from their military retirement from 38-40yrs old as Senior Enlisted and a Warrant. Travel all over Asia living the life. I chose not to due to family commitments. There are so much OCONUS jobs that is out there as you know. Hope to come out and meet you in Thailand later in the year.
It is so nice to have vets (I'm former 11M) talk what I understand and how they went about getting it done to find what seems nirvana to me; living in Thailand. I did not give up on the US, it gave up on me and these videos have me STRONGLY considering a move to Thailand. I retired at 47 ten years ago because I was always an investor and now with a few $MM+ in cash/stocks/mutual funds, I am thinking why the hell am I living in a country I don't even recognize anymore, that hates who I am and what I believe and practice. It seems as if living in an insane asylum without hope, in a 'culture' on a terminal glide-slope with the ground rapidly approaching and the folks seem to like it that way. I want true peace and tranquility, to be a part of a real community that is polite, kind and happy simply because that is how humans should behave. I don't seek 'luxury', or wish to exploit the people; I simply want to enjoy what time I have left in a place that feels like home and to be a good neighbor and friend. Thank you Forrest for your work and wonderful videos... You have no idea how inspiring they are for an American vet who is America weary, and for the first time in a long time feels the spark and hope that an entirely new life can be at hand and a reality.
Good, solid interview Forrest. I only understood about 35% of the financial chatter. But I suppose that's the point, isn't it? This interview made me sit up and pay attention to the fact that (even as a grey beard) there are investment opportunities out there. And it doesn't even require hard physical effort to take advantage of them; just the time, attention and discipline to sit down and learn basic principles and strategies. Evan, dispensed more beneficial and practical information than my freshmen year Econ 101 professor. This may sound a little bit like apple polishing, my brother, but this interview should be required viewing for every male (and female) between the ages of 18-24 who's wondering what the heck they're going to do with their life. Take a bow, my brother. You too, Evan. P.S. Now that we've got the arcane 'bean-counting' out of the way I would have been interested in a five-minute trailer about Evan's life in Thailand and why he chose Thailand as a place to finally settle down. More of the 'day in the life' stuff that you do in your videos.
When I was young met a couple guys that loved to talk about investing and they seemed to be knowledgeable. But as the years went by, come to find out their real safety net was momma and daddy. I did the real estate thing, rented and managed the property myself. Sold everything and retired 17 years ago. My best guidance is, start young, see your goal and go for it. Ignore the naysayers, they don't have your vision.
I really enjoyed this video because he's not really selling you dreams; he basically worked his butt off and through smart saving & investing, he's retired. And he's not even that old!
This is really valuable info and you both seem like interesting people. I went to Thailand when I was 38 for a 3-month trip, that was 4.5 years ago (I went back to Dallas once in November for a work conference) and I just kept doing my recruiter job. I work nights now, even as I type this I'm working. There are so many ways to do this and I'm excited to see the way Evan did it. Great content and info.
Nicely done. Been living here 4.5 years and still go back and forth Europe every month for work...hopefully can retire early here as well in 10 years. Great video 🙏
Than you Forrest and Evan. Listening to the interview has reinvigorated my aspirations for financial freedom. I will take your advice and listen to it again and take notes! :)
Great insightful talk on building passive income. The one thing I would add to the talk track is that the 6000 dollar monthly passive income goal has a 24000 dollar net effect in Thailand as cost of living is 4x to 5x lower than the US.
Yup! I met a few guys while on deployment that were contractors in the middle east. I met one guy who had the same MOS as this guy (HUMINT) and he made 158K a year (he named his price) but he worked 12hrs hell or high water. He would have to go to Dubai sometimes within the year because of visa stuff. Not many people get into HUMINT while in the military, however, a lot of the other contractors were Special Forces so it was a combo of former HUMINTS and Green Berets.
I'm an Air Force Vet, 32 currently. Just traveled there last January. I will open a business there with the Amity treaty. Evan has the right idea! I'll be there soon again!
excellent video … i live between CM and Phuket and have a similar story if you are in CM happy to share my story too just to help and inspire people to find freedom … keep up the great work
I retired early in Thailand also but I sell off 4%, but dividends is a great way to go. Also, Charles Schwab is great for this lifestyle, no ATM fees or trading fees.
@@jamies6534 Yes, but there are people who would debate you can go higher. There are calculators online that will show you about how long your investments will last. Of course, you can always lengthen that time by not selling when the market is down.
Yeah, I too believe the 4% strategy works. Probably the easiest for most people. If I had done that, would have a greater net worth now. Live and learn!
I’ve got some commercial rental income and it looks like I could easily live off this income in many countries. Just not here, the US is just so expensive.
Army for the win! I consistently tell people that one enlistment in any branch is a good way for an already stable individual to hone their untapped skills. At the very least, it sets you up with an understanding of your personal limits and desired life direction.
I hated the Navy. They sent me to six months of avionics school and then had me work in the galley and wash planes for a couple of years before I touched anything technical. It wasnt because I was a shitbag. This is how they treated everyone. It was full of low lifes. I had a motorcycle stolen out of the barracks parking lot and could not leave the washing machine unattended or my clothes would be stolen. Alot of enlistees are doing it as a deal to stay out of jail. It works out for some people, but most just dream about the day they get out. The pay was far below minimum wage. Most people would be better off to take a loan out for community college technical program. They don't cost that much and you don't have to commit 4 years of your life to be a slave. I wouldn't recommend it to anyone, unless they go into it with the intention of making a carreer out of it.
At about the 19:35 mark he mentions if he invested in a total market index he would have been a bit richer. The Vanguard total market index (VTI) 10 year return is probably around 15%. Which is on the high side. To be safe I’d assume a 7-9% return. I’d say for the average person who doesn’t want to spend too much time this is probably the “easiest” way to invest.
Agreed. Especially if you have a long time horizon. I have no idea what the markets are going to do in a month, year, or five years. But ten years from now, probably up. Twenty years from now, yeah, probably will average 8-10% annual returns. Most of the money I'm investing now goes into VTI.
After watching this video I began reading more about stocks and shares. Yesterday I put my first few thousand GBP into an index fund and several EFTs, and will continue dollar cost averaging each month with as much as I can afford. With Evan's advice in mind, I began looking abroad and I'm due to start teaching in the middle-east soon, with a tax free salary and accommodation/utilities paid. Evan's advice has had a direct impact on my life and for that I am very grateful.
Love this type of interviews. Investments /Trading - options, etf, stocks, are essential skills that are not taught in our education system. Wish I found out sooner, would be well retired by now.
Although I can retire today and live like you guys but I like my stuff and life style too much. I guess I’ll be stuck in the rat race for a little longer. However, great advice for my children. Good job, guys!
I'm like you. Three kids and single, mom left and took half of all I had and now blew it in 5 years 1/2 mil. I brought the three up now for ten years, youngest will be 18 in 20 months. I could retire today as I made it all back and more. I have the kids and so I stay. It's life but I choose! Great advice Forrest!
Question: is interactive brokers an actual company or is he referring to companies that are considered / acting as interactive brokers ? Great stuff, really smart man.
For a young person in the UK the Royal Navy (especially submarines) is an interesting idea. If you don't keep a home and just a room in the parental home, and try to spend all your time on a warship, you could retire by 30. Ten to twelve years of hard saving would easily do it, with a useful service pension to supplement your state pension when you're old.
You could do this.. another option is join at 18, do your full 22 and retire at 40 on a full pension. You’re looking at around a grand every month, for the rest of your life.
@@Ben-yp9nh They didn't use to index-link it, which (with 1970s inflation) meant it was worthless really quickly. I think they do index-link it now, which is vital given the inflation.
Really appreciate this interview! 🙏 Super inspiring, thanks y'all for taking the time to share~ I'm curious if he sold all his real-estate and invested it before moving to Thailand? or if he decided to keep it for rental income? (Also curious how he chose $6k monthly dividend as a goal for retirement?)
I love the story. That’s my path forward also - selling yearly cash secure puts on a high conviction stock and leaving the other half in the stock market.
Nice! Yeah, I never outright buy any ETFs...I just sell cash-secured puts for the yield and am happy to take delivery at a lower price. Speaking of which...today is going to be a great day to sell more puts!
These strategies are all well and good for your guest but most people dont have the option/skills to get paid $200k+ net for 6 years with another 5 years on top from army where spending is also negligible. This is really what people need to be able to achieve to get this type of lifestyle. For me it was a similar story except I worked in O+G, 4 weeks on 1 week off 12 hour days, no bills while at work but sacrificing a lot over a 10 year period (not including 5 years of training prior to that) to get to this point. Great interview, two savvy guys, your guest sounds like he has done a lot of research and knows what he is doing.
Nice! I love your story. Yeah, my path might not be easily repeatable, so thanks for letting people know about the oil and gas industry. That sounds like an excellent option for people looking to escape student loans, avoid the cubicle, and live an exceptional life.
Great interview and appreciate how Evan points out that people should do what they want to be happy. Investing and savings require some level of sacrifice or trade off unless you are just making crazy money. If you want to buy a big ticket item, just remember the cost incurred is not just money but also the trade off of not investing or saving that money. Not everyone can work overseas and live rent free but no matter where you work, the sooner you start and the more you save/invest, the quicker your money can start working for you. Again great conversation from the two of you.
Fantastic interview, appears honest and reliable. I wish I had that advice and knowledge 35 years ago. I’ve never been afraid of putting the hours in, just never been savvy enough to make the best of it (despite advice), I’ll be looking to both save and invest my meagre funds to improve my financial situation. Forest: best vid I’ve watched of yours.
Pretty much any normal job you do in the US is available in the Middle East, Africa, Asia, etc. The pay is usually a bit higher, comes with huge tax dedications, and includes housing. Often better schools for your kids too. If I were straight out of high school, I would look for something in oil and gas. Go live somewhere most people don't want to live, put in 70+ hours per week, live for free, and invest all that cash.
Much respect! We have similar personalities as I worked a respectable paying job for 5 years and saved over 80% of my annual net to achieve financial security, however I married because of loneliness and had my ex deplete my savings grotesquely! I'm working again and building it back, but it's not the same as I have a distrust of people and can't find balance!
@@spookyblack7526 My mother asked me to move back home and reside 'rent free' if I could help with my younger sibling who had a drug problem. I didn't have the rent, or mortgage, electric, cable, sewer/garbage that deplete many. I worked for a company so I didn't have a commercial trk payment. The company actually allowed me to bobtail the tractor home because I was on call 24/7. The company also paid for my meals when out! Anyway, my personal vehicle was paid for so all I had was cellphone, auto insurance, and gas for personal trk!
This guy is an example of being in the right place at the right time, plus he was making good money so all he had to do was pull the trigger, the stock market crashed and so did the RE market just before he started. The market today is not really great, so someone trying to do the same today wont get the same benefits in the same time.
The key isn't all about his investment only.. This guy didn't get himself baby mama(s), kids, wives or such in his 20/30s like everyone else did
@@fjackson4382 Or I don’t know? Just get a woman who has her own career and doesn’t spend your money? 🤣
@@Ben-yp9nh nah
Very true
@@Ben-yp9nh I've never been able to attract anything but losers. I.e. cashiers and other minimum wagers.
Ecxactly!
Such a calm and composed guy. Shows he has the discipline to pursue things in life that he wants
To me it comes across as more of a "I've seen some shit and it changed me" kind of calm. Could be my bias though. Either way congrats to him for getting to where he is now.
In 2006, I retired from the Air Force with full pension at age 42. I moved to Thailand and haven't worked a day since. My monthly investment income is 2-3 x my monthly pension -- held primarily in mutual funds. I continue to reinvest fully half of my income every month. The key is not how much you make, it's how much you keep.
Nice! And I'll bet you are living like a king!
@@ewstuber and with a young Thai chick too. LOL
Any regrets retiring early? Do you ever get bored? I’m 42 and I’m thinking of taking early retirement.
@@carlyndolphin nope
yeah same really Ive been retired from military for 9 years since being 25 and I don't get bored. Maintaining financial discipline with even just 50k p/a I live as well as people with double that and have a nest egg investment. Just time to finally leave the west and Thailand is looking pretty good these days.
Great interview, Evan sounds like a very interesting guy/lifestyle! Any chance you could do this once a year at least to talk about investing, how is new life is in Dubai
The hardest part of expat living for me was how to manage boredom. How to understand that everyday is not vacation and learning how to develop a daily routine. Once I became content with coffee shops, malls, gyms, etc, I had the time of my life meeting new people and planning spontaneous trips to other countries.
if you have boredom then throw away your schedule and time. I never get bore being by myself. Such a wonderful life.
@@jparsit I think I’m getting used to that method. Thx!
You def need to find activities/part time work/teaching/volunteering to teach English...I can only do coffee shops, beaches, and parks for maybe 3-4 weeks before I am ready to get back to work as the boredom kicks in...
@@calbear20. Didn’t think of teaching English. Thanks!
Kind of the same as me. I never wanted to be anything "higher" than a Master Sergeant because it would put me behind a desk, and I wanted to run operations! I used my military housing allowance to buy, not rent. Then when I would get reassigned I had a property management company rent the property out for me. Did that twice, wish I did it more. Volunteered for assignments where I got hostile fire pay. Did lots of long hours. 12 hours? On deployments it was working from after you had breakfast until you went to sleep. You were so busy you didn't even notice it. Also while Stateside I sacrificed, living cheap, paying off those mortgages. I had some great adventures! After the military, I worked as a military contractor doing the same things, still paying down those mortgages. I ended up retiring as a Master Sergeant with the income of a Colonel. Life is good and I'm in Turkey now, but should be permanently located to Chiang Mai, Thailand, next month. I just wish I could explain my strategy to young soldiers today!
Awesome story! When I was an E-2 stationed in Monterey the guy who ran the gym was a retired enlisted guy. He had bought a house or two at every duty station and was loaded. Get rich slowly but surely.
Also, I LOVE Turkey. Best food in the world, IMO.
How many years were you in the military? Do you have a family now?
Just came across your channel and this was great to hear. My wife and I were able to leave our 9-5 jobs at 28 and are excited to explore Europe and south east asian over the next year. Keep up the good content.
By investing?
@@aileen8492 Yes.
What a great example of hard work, sound planning, and delayed gratification. Well done!
I was recently medically retired from the Navy and am very well off at only 29. I was thinking about moving to Thailand and came across your videos, thank you for the tips.
Great content! Smart guy who didn’t get weighed down with things, family…. Now has the world at his feet!
I lived in that shipping container as a soldier in Iraq and contractor in Afghanistan. I know that life well and mad respect because most guys over there never use their income made this wisely 👏🏽
This video honestly sparked something in me. Thank you Evan for showing me that such a life is possible.
Great Video! Love to see people who can retire earlier in life. I retired at 45, wish I would have moved to Thailand sooner.
This is great, I’m ex navy, working overseas for the government on a contract, rents paid for, I don’t pay taxes and I have no debt, I’m so fortunate! Looking to do this for 5-6 more years and then doing what this guy did. Great video!
Hi, Im a tax payer…glad you’re enjoying my money.
@@kaym7704 don’t hate… duplicate. Get some skills, serve your country for 20 years and go work in a combat zone. Easy Peezy! NOT!!!
I have never done this before, but you and I have the same name. My 'RJ' is Ryan James. Cool. Also, I'm Air Force but in the Philippines.
This guy is so smart and humble really unique situation but shows it is completely possible to retire early without beating the market
Thank you Forest and Evan ❤. I learned a lot from this interview, it was very informative and inspirational!
Excellent video , you asked some great questions and got some great answers . That is a very wise and smart guy 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
Thank you Forrest and Evan for this great video! I have found your channel to be extremely helpful when I was in the military and continue to find it extremely helpful now that I am out of the military. You cover a wide range of topics that are so great for service members and veterans alike and I really like how you're bringing in different people to share their experiences as well. I look forward to learning more from your videos!
I've been deployed multiple times to Middle East, Africa and to Asia in uniform (26yrs) and as a contractor. Yes, you can make a lot of tax-free money. I've met many people have done it and still doing it. Some of them retired in Thailand and Philippines at a very young age. They have passive income and drawing from their military retirement from 38-40yrs old as Senior Enlisted and a Warrant. Travel all over Asia living the life. I chose not to due to family commitments. There are so much OCONUS jobs that is out there as you know. Hope to come out and meet you in Thailand later in the year.
Awesome video! I appreciate videos with real people not trying to sell crap!
Exactly. Forests best video.
Excellent interviews. Two great guys having a good conversation. 👍👍👍👍👍👋👋👋👋👋
It is so nice to have vets (I'm former 11M) talk what I understand and how they went about getting it done to find what seems nirvana to me; living in Thailand. I did not give up on the US, it gave up on me and these videos have me STRONGLY considering a move to Thailand. I retired at 47 ten years ago because I was always an investor and now with a few $MM+ in cash/stocks/mutual funds, I am thinking why the hell am I living in a country I don't even recognize anymore, that hates who I am and what I believe and practice. It seems as if living in an insane asylum without hope, in a 'culture' on a terminal glide-slope with the ground rapidly approaching and the folks seem to like it that way.
I want true peace and tranquility, to be a part of a real community that is polite, kind and happy simply because that is how humans should behave. I don't seek 'luxury', or wish to exploit the people; I simply want to enjoy what time I have left in a place that feels like home and to be a good neighbor and friend. Thank you Forrest for your work and wonderful videos... You have no idea how inspiring they are for an American vet who is America weary, and for the first time in a long time feels the spark and hope that an entirely new life can be at hand and a reality.
Good, solid interview Forrest. I only understood about 35% of the financial chatter. But I suppose that's the point, isn't it? This interview made me sit up and pay attention to the fact that (even as a grey beard) there are investment opportunities out there. And it doesn't even require hard physical effort to take advantage of them; just the time, attention and discipline to sit down and learn basic principles and strategies.
Evan, dispensed more beneficial and practical information than my freshmen year Econ 101 professor. This may sound a little bit like apple polishing, my brother, but this interview should be required viewing for every male (and female) between the ages of 18-24 who's wondering what the heck they're going to do with their life. Take a bow, my brother. You too, Evan. P.S. Now that we've got the arcane 'bean-counting' out of the way I would have been interested in a five-minute trailer about Evan's life in Thailand and why he chose Thailand as a place to finally settle down. More of the 'day in the life' stuff that you do in your videos.
A very assured, confident guy who knew what he wanted at an early age and worked hard to achieve that...... Well done Sir 👏
Very cool. Thanks for sharing his story.
Hey, I heard you on a podcast and love YOUR story! Let me know if you're ever in Bangkok! - Evan
@@ewstuber Will do
When I was young met a couple guys that loved to talk about investing and they seemed to be knowledgeable. But as the years went by, come to find out their real safety net was momma and daddy. I did the real estate thing, rented and managed the property myself. Sold everything and retired 17 years ago. My best guidance is, start young, see your goal and go for it. Ignore the naysayers, they don't have your vision.
Great video very generous this friend of yours. Thanks for another great video
Love it.. I glad you started to talk more about finances!!
Great questions!
I really enjoyed this video because he's not really selling you dreams; he basically worked his butt off and through smart saving & investing, he's retired. And he's not even that old!
This is really valuable info and you both seem like interesting people. I went to Thailand when I was 38 for a 3-month trip, that was 4.5 years ago (I went back to Dallas once in November for a work conference) and I just kept doing my recruiter job. I work nights now, even as I type this I'm working. There are so many ways to do this and I'm excited to see the way Evan did it. Great content and info.
Nice! I found out about Dave Ramsey and the F.I.R.E. MOVEMENT when I was 31 years old. I am so thankful and changed the way I lived my life.
This is an Excellent Story man I love hearing stories from smart people .
Awesome stuff way to go man .
Forrest a pro at these interviews damn
Nicely done. Been living here 4.5 years and still go back and forth Europe every month for work...hopefully can retire early here as well in 10 years. Great video 🙏
How come I missed this great channel so far, awesome and very educational channel, thanks for sharing great videos. subbed and liked !
This interview is so inspirational and motivating. Thank you for this.
Very interesting, thanks for the time to do this.
Than you Forrest and Evan. Listening to the interview has reinvigorated my aspirations for financial freedom. I will take your advice and listen to it again and take notes! :)
Very nice interview. You have a new fan. Thanks.
That was great Forest. Love these types of videos. Keep them coming.
Thank you Forrest to you and your guest this kind of content has this magnetic appeal to it can we have more just like this one
Great insightful talk on building passive income. The one thing I would add to the talk track is that the 6000 dollar monthly passive income goal has a 24000 dollar net effect in Thailand as cost of living is 4x to 5x lower than the US.
good video mate
Congratulation Evan!
Thanks for this interview Forrest! So valuable 🙏🏻🙏🏻
Yup! I met a few guys while on deployment that were contractors in the middle east. I met one guy who had the same MOS as this guy (HUMINT) and he made 158K a year (he named his price) but he worked 12hrs hell or high water. He would have to go to Dubai sometimes within the year because of visa stuff. Not many people get into HUMINT while in the military, however, a lot of the other contractors were Special Forces so it was a combo of former HUMINTS and Green Berets.
I'm an Air Force Vet, 32 currently. Just traveled there last January. I will open a business there with the Amity treaty. Evan has the right idea! I'll be there soon again!
Your videos and stuff keep randomly coming in to my feed... Nice video. :)
excellent video … i live between CM and Phuket and have a similar story if you are in CM happy to share my story too just to help and inspire people to find freedom … keep up the great work
First off guys, Thank You for your Service. Great postive and informative interview.
Thank you for sharing. It was very interesting.
This is another good one! Thanks.
I retired early in Thailand also but I sell off 4%, but dividends is a great way to go. Also, Charles Schwab is great for this lifestyle, no ATM fees or trading fees.
The 4% rule looks solid by my calcs. Is this what you've found also?
@@jamies6534 Yes, but there are people who would debate you can go higher. There are calculators online that will show you about how long your investments will last. Of course, you can always lengthen that time by not selling when the market is down.
@@TheListPlanet Agreed. Have been playing with the calculators.
Yeah, I too believe the 4% strategy works. Probably the easiest for most people. If I had done that, would have a greater net worth now. Live and learn!
Than you
Excellent info guys. Thanks! Will be joining you guys in a couple years.
I am in the military , about to retired cant wait to live as an expa
Good show.
Great interview. Basically plan early and work hard and reap afterwards.
Definitely your best video,I started investing in the stockmarket and plan to retire in Thailand in a few years.
Excellent insight, awesome video 🙏👍💕
I'm now FI too, heading to Thailand in next few months - Expat abroad
Excellent video brother Lee - one of your best. And a great interview - this is why I subscribe to you channel. Information, knowledge and insight.
Thanks for this video forest! Cheers 🍻
I’ve got some commercial rental income and it looks like I could easily live off this income in many countries. Just not here, the US is just so expensive.
This was a really helpful video. Enjoyed the candid information on what is possible in layman terms. Many thanks!
Great video!
Great interview!
Valuable information.
Army for the win! I consistently tell people that one enlistment in any branch is a good way for an already stable individual to hone their untapped skills. At the very least, it sets you up with an understanding of your personal limits and desired life direction.
@@robertnew4568 cool, cool…enjoy your day.
Agreed. Learn valuable skills, get job experience, get paid, earn college benefits...best decision I ever made.
I hated the Navy. They sent me to six months of avionics school and then had me work in the galley and wash planes for a couple of years before I touched anything technical. It wasnt because I was a shitbag. This is how they treated everyone. It was full of low lifes. I had a motorcycle stolen out of the barracks parking lot and could not leave the washing machine unattended or my clothes would be stolen. Alot of enlistees are doing it as a deal to stay out of jail. It works out for some people, but most just dream about the day they get out. The pay was far below minimum wage. Most people would be better off to take a loan out for community college technical program. They don't cost that much and you don't have to commit 4 years of your life to be a slave. I wouldn't recommend it to anyone, unless they go into it with the intention of making a carreer out of it.
@@mctransportation9831 how is everyone making so much money in the military? Are they full of it?
Great video. Wonderful information!!!!
Excellent interview!!!!
Thanks a lot man.
Very composed , both dudes 👍🏻
Amazing, thank you so much.
At about the 19:35 mark he mentions if he invested in a total market index he would have been a bit richer. The Vanguard total market index (VTI) 10 year return is probably around 15%. Which is on the high side. To be safe I’d assume a 7-9% return. I’d say for the average person who doesn’t want to spend too much time this is probably the “easiest” way to invest.
Agreed. Especially if you have a long time horizon. I have no idea what the markets are going to do in a month, year, or five years. But ten years from now, probably up. Twenty years from now, yeah, probably will average 8-10% annual returns. Most of the money I'm investing now goes into VTI.
VOO
VTI, VYM, VOO are some of the best ETFs out there.
I agree. Returns from 2010-2021 were not typical. A downside of dividend stocks is that they offer lower returns.
The most fantastic and informative video loved this guy honestly need more kind of this video
After watching this video I began reading more about stocks and shares. Yesterday I put my first few thousand GBP into an index fund and several EFTs, and will continue dollar cost averaging each month with as much as I can afford. With Evan's advice in mind, I began looking abroad and I'm due to start teaching in the middle-east soon, with a tax free salary and accommodation/utilities paid. Evan's advice has had a direct impact on my life and for that I am very grateful.
Whoa, that's badass! Enjoy the journey...if you find it fun and not a sacrifice, you are going to love it! Thanks for the kind words!
Great story.
Love this type of interviews. Investments /Trading - options, etf, stocks, are essential skills that are not taught in our education system. Wish I found out sooner, would be well retired by now.
Although I can retire today and live like you guys but I like my stuff and life style too much. I guess I’ll be stuck in the rat race for a little longer. However, great advice for my children. Good job, guys!
I'm like you. Three kids and single, mom left and took half of all I had and now blew it in 5 years 1/2 mil. I brought the three up now for ten years, youngest will be 18 in 20 months.
I could retire today as I made it all back and more. I have the kids and so I stay. It's life but I choose!
Great advice Forrest!
Question: is interactive brokers an actual company or is he referring to companies that are considered / acting as interactive brokers ? Great stuff, really smart man.
"Interactive Brokers" is the online brokerage firm I use. Like Schwab, TD, or Robinhood. But way better.
thanks for this, Thailand is great!
Thanks guys. Evan is a steady hand and mind. Exactly what you need to invest wisely.
For a young person in the UK the Royal Navy (especially submarines) is an interesting idea. If you don't keep a home and just a room in the parental home, and try to spend all your time on a warship, you could retire by 30. Ten to twelve years of hard saving would easily do it, with a useful service pension to supplement your state pension when you're old.
You could do this.. another option is join at 18, do your full 22 and retire at 40 on a full pension. You’re looking at around a grand every month, for the rest of your life.
@@Ben-yp9nh They didn't use to index-link it, which (with 1970s inflation) meant it was worthless really quickly. I think they do index-link it now, which is vital given the inflation.
@@Ben-yp9nh you cannot retire on a grand every month. Or is that just the pension and you would have your own dividend income stream on top of that?
@@method341 I meant retire from the military, not from working at all. Of course you’d need another source of income, to live in the U.K. anyway.
@@Ben-yp9nh even in Thailand that's not even 30,000 baht a month. That's enough to pay the rent and food but not much more than that.
Great informative vid!
Really appreciate this interview! 🙏 Super inspiring, thanks y'all for taking the time to share~ I'm curious if he sold all his real-estate and invested it before moving to Thailand? or if he decided to keep it for rental income? (Also curious how he chose $6k monthly dividend as a goal for retirement?)
I love the story. That’s my path forward also - selling yearly cash secure puts on a high conviction stock and leaving the other half in the stock market.
Nice! Yeah, I never outright buy any ETFs...I just sell cash-secured puts for the yield and am happy to take delivery at a lower price. Speaking of which...today is going to be a great day to sell more puts!
These strategies are all well and good for your guest but most people dont have the option/skills to get paid $200k+ net for 6 years with another 5 years on top from army where spending is also negligible. This is really what people need to be able to achieve to get this type of lifestyle. For me it was a similar story except I worked in O+G, 4 weeks on 1 week off 12 hour days, no bills while at work but sacrificing a lot over a 10 year period (not including 5 years of training prior to that) to get to this point. Great interview, two savvy guys, your guest sounds like he has done a lot of research and knows what he is doing.
Nice! I love your story. Yeah, my path might not be easily repeatable, so thanks for letting people know about the oil and gas industry. That sounds like an excellent option for people looking to escape student loans, avoid the cubicle, and live an exceptional life.
Great information
Thank you so much
Great interview and appreciate how Evan points out that people should do what they want to be happy. Investing and savings require some level of sacrifice or trade off unless you are just making crazy money. If you want to buy a big ticket item, just remember the cost incurred is not just money but also the trade off of not investing or saving that money. Not everyone can work overseas and live rent free but no matter where you work, the sooner you start and the more you save/invest, the quicker your money can start working for you.
Again great conversation from the two of you.
Fantastic interview, appears honest and reliable. I wish I had that advice and knowledge 35 years ago. I’ve never been afraid of putting the hours in, just never been savvy enough to make the best of it (despite advice), I’ll be looking to both save and invest my meagre funds to improve my financial situation. Forest: best vid I’ve watched of yours.
any examples of such jobs for non military/intelligence folks? how can one research or learn more about this? thanks
Pretty much any normal job you do in the US is available in the Middle East, Africa, Asia, etc. The pay is usually a bit higher, comes with huge tax dedications, and includes housing. Often better schools for your kids too.
If I were straight out of high school, I would look for something in oil and gas. Go live somewhere most people don't want to live, put in 70+ hours per week, live for free, and invest all that cash.
GREAT info, it's the way to security.
Your friend needs his our podcast / You Tube channel. Smart guy.
Much respect! We have similar personalities as I worked a respectable paying job for 5 years and saved over 80% of my annual net to achieve financial security, however I married because of loneliness and had my ex deplete my savings grotesquely! I'm working again and building it back, but it's not the same as I have a distrust of people and can't find balance!
How were you able to save 80%? Living with parents?
@@spookyblack7526 sarcasm yes?
@@randymullins3555 no answer the question
@@spookyblack7526 My mother asked me to move back home and reside 'rent free' if I could help with my younger sibling who had a drug problem. I didn't have the rent, or mortgage, electric, cable, sewer/garbage that deplete many. I worked for a company so I didn't have a commercial trk payment. The company actually allowed me to bobtail the tractor home because I was on call 24/7. The company also paid for my meals when out! Anyway, my personal vehicle was paid for so all I had was cellphone, auto insurance, and gas for personal trk!
Wow thank you
97% into saving and invested,that is insanely great.
This guy is an example of being in the right place at the right time, plus he was making good money so all he had to do was pull the trigger, the stock market crashed and so did the RE market just before he started. The market today is not really great, so someone trying to do the same today wont get the same benefits in the same time.
Smart guy.