Straight Razor Honing-Refreshing Straight Razors
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- Опубликовано: 29 авг 2024
- This video shows how to refresh and maintain straight razors for shaving, using chromium oxide, .5 micron diamond spray and higher grit sharpening stones/hones.
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Hey Lynn, Used my naniwa 12,000 7x first. Chromium oxide paste strop 7x second, the 3 inch leather strop 50x third. Now my Boker King Cutter is back to shaving my beard like butter!! Great informative video, thank you Sir.
Amazing insight. Seems like this is gonna reduce the wear on the blade to basically zero. Same for the lapping routine. The hone, if not warped after drying, doesn't need to be lapped as frequently as is recommended by other honemeisters on YT. I can imagine that a pyramid more easily mitigates planar differences in multiple hone progressions. The pyramid is something new I learned. Definitely gonna try these edge preserving and time saving methods too. Thank you very much
Lynn keeps everything simple.
Most guys on forums and RUclips complicate shaving so much.
This company is still in business? I know these videos are pretty old
@@magnoliamike not open anymore. I highly recommend either sending your razor to Max Sprecher in Las Vegas or Razor emporium.
Or if you wanted to start honing your razor yourself, I could help out.
this man is a honing encyclopedia. Period.
Thanks for sharing your knowledge
I was considering using my Japanese stones I have for my knives.
It was sharpening my knives that got me interested in straight razors.
I occasionally come back and watch this video as a refresh. Good stuff. I hope you are doing well Lynn.
Awesome!! Thanks and Happy Holidays!!
@@LynnSAbrams Happy holidays to you. Hope hope sata gives you a new after shave brew.
Hi Lynn - although you posted this a while ago and may not have time to periodically check for comments, I'd really like to add my thanks for the time and trouble you've taken to produce so many informative videos. As a newcomer, this video in particular was essential in educating me as to how I could maintain a straight razor. There is so much vague and misleading advice on the internet. I'm ordering my first straight razor very soon and looking forward! I'm currently a DE shaver and reaping the benefits. Can't wait to master the craft of straight razor shaving! Thanks again and very best wishes from another stranger. (Wales, UK).
Robert how did you find the experience to shave with a Straight Razor compared to the DE? I am going to try as well and wondering what is your insight ... thanks
It's been 4 years since I started SR shaving. Wow, the woods are full of SR-how-to videos now. Lynn and Glen are still the best.
Lynn is the Best. Always coming back to your videos. Have a great year. Happy 2024
I love the way the camera gets closer to a strop of hone, when the instructor uses the strop or hone. It adds so much to the video--and shows how smart the camera operator is!--for the camera to get twelve inches away from the strop or hone. And of course, you see so much more--the strop or hone is so much more interesting!--when the camera is close to the strop or hone. It's so good to see a headless horseman stropping or honing a razor.
This is probably the best video on straight razor honing/stropping I have watched.
I'd just like to say an absolutely massive thank you for this video! There's so much information on the internet it's impossible to know where to begin but this video covered every question I had and I'm really happy to go and purchase my straight now and be sure that with time and effort, I can keep it shave ready after the initial hone. Thanks again, videos likes this are brilliant, I really mean this! :)
I had wanted to try straight razor shaving for some time. My son had been doing it for a while but has grown a large beard and wasn't using it. So, I borrowed his razor and kit and gave it a try. I was asking myself "what's so great about this"? I found your channel here and after reviewing the information on exactly how to do it, and more important your advise on refreshing and honing razors I am about to get the hang of it and finding it very satisfying. In fact, I ordered my own razor from you this afternoon! Thanks Lynn for your very informative, useful and well made videos!
Can't wait to try refreshing on the modular paddle strop. As soon as it arrives that is. Your videos are always great Lynn, could watch them over and over. Such a humble honemeister. Thanks for the great video and the great information.
What a great no-bull channel this is. I see it's some years since you posted a new video, but there's always new people coming in, and great information like this never gets old. Hope you never take the channel down .
I’ve just tried the first process on my razor (black strop paste on the cotton side of my strop). I’ve struggled with this brand new razor since Christmas and it’s now pinging hairs away nicely. Thanks.
Lynn, thank you very much for this video. I bought a niwana 12000 but I was not getting the edge I wanted. After watching this video, I bought the niwana 5000 and 8000. WOW, what a difference. I sat down and honed all my straight razors. Again, thank you.
Thank you ,this was great ,I have always been able to sharpen knives sharp enough to shave hair off my arm ,but I have an old Straight Razor that always pulled , this helped me alot . Thank you
Glad your vids are still up Lynn! Been away from the straights for a while and going back through getting a refresher. Hope you are well!
Retired and doing great Dustin. All the best!
Hey Lynn. Good to see you, it's been about 10 years. Sadly our friend Jay took the westbound October of 2010.
I just bought my first straight razor today.
So I'm learning how to use it.
Both edge and spine are touching the strops and stones. Lifting up with a straight razor will cause you all kinds of fun and can roll an edge pretty quickly.
Mr. Abrams, thanks a lot for your advices and suggestions on the universe of straight razors. I´ve been watching all your videos, so far, I consider I´ve learned a great deal on this subject. I kindly regard from Panama, Republic.
This video cleared up a lot of confusion for me. Thank you for the information.
Thank you Brother, I've just started getting into sharpening, mainly cutlery. My father was a barber long ago and he has a straight razor that's close to two hundred years old, he offered it to me but I don't want to make it with my amateur sharpening skills.
I am going to make my own strops using kangaroo leather I have leftover from an old painting project. I also have some canvas, looks like I have my work cut out for me.
Best of luck and let me know if I can help you. Keep in mind that sharpening razors is different than sharpening knives. Both the spine and the edge need to be on the stone with even pressure at all times. With a little practice, you can certainly learn hone them nicely. Fraternally!
Thanks for the help what a great guy and a brilliant video. Im new to this too 50 shaves in and your video is like a guiding light for a know nothing like me.
I have watched this tutorial so many times-so informative and well paced. Thanks, Lynn!
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Excellent and very informative video. Thank you for posting this great information in such a clear and complete manner.
great teaching video on refreshing a straight razor. you have a great way of teaching. Thanks.
I have used the .5 micron media following both the 8K and the 10K with success. You can also use a few strokes on the 1 micron and drop down to the .5 after the stones in my opinion.
On the hanging strops, personal preference is key. I use English Bridle and Roo quite a bit with the poly webbing canvas second strop.
this is really a good explanation and very well detailed video
Thanks for the video. Having to get a razor honed multiple times has so far scared me off from jumping into the straight razor world. I was under the impression you needed multiple stones, etc just to re-sharpen a razor.
+PhotoBomb In my opinion, you can get by with a 12K or finishing stone and either spray or paste media to maintain your razors unless the edge is damaged and needs a complete re-honing from bevel set to finish.
+Lynn Abrams im looking into this method that you mentioned (12k + Cr paste) in the video before I have to send it back to you for proper honing haha.. my question is do you also sell the wood block you have holding the 12k finishing stone on SRD?
+Alex Ramirez The 12K's used to come with those plastic stands permanently affixed to them. They don't make them like that anymore and I am using the Naniwa Stone Holder. Works great for all their stones.
Thank you for your kindness in guiding me on the this.
Try 4-7 strokes with the chromium oxide followed by 40-60 strokes on your leather strop. If that doesn't work, try adding 5-7 light strokes on a 12K or finishing stone followed by the chromium oxide and stropping.
On factory edges, I usually drop down to the 4K and hone up from there using the circle method I developed. It is virtually flawless. On tweaking a shave ready blade, I will usually try 1-3 strokes on chromium oxide or a couple strokes on a finishing stone followed by the chromium oxide and see if it improves the shave. If it is truly shave ready, I just shave with it.
I recommend the pastes or crayon on the back of leather or webbing and you can put it on as demonstrated in the video. I think that the sprays work best with the hard felt. I like either the .5 diamond spray or the chromium oxide on the felt. They are very consistent and reliable.
Thank you for taking the time to make your videos...they're a tremendous help!
First of all your video is very well done. Straight to the point, informative and easy to understand the information your trying to convey to anyone who watches it. I also had a some questions for you, if you don't mind. First; do you need to have constant contact of the spine of the razor on the strop to sharpen it the right way? Second; will a pyramid of like a 5k grit and 8k grit work in lieu of a 12k sharpening stone? I'm tired of tearing through those expensive disposable razors by Gillette so I'm trying the straight razor approach so I got 2 of them. I figured I could practice my sharpening with one and use what I learned on the other. Even if you don't get back to me I would like to express my gratitude on you taking the time and effort to post this video for us to learn a few things.😎👊
You do need to keep the spine and edge on the strop. If you lift the spine while stropping you can dull the edge. Light pressure as well. You can do the 5/8 K pyramid but in the long run you’ll find the 12K a more comfortable shave. Best of luck and thanks!
You can put chromium oxide paste or crayon on the back of a leather strop. I would not recommend the higher grit on the back side of the poly webbing or linen if it will be touching or rubbing up against another treated strop because of the possible cross contamination as you mentioned. You could put the other paste on the front side of the linen and then you should be fine. Alot of people don't use the linen before the leather as this is a personal preference thing.
Where do you hail from brother?
Great video for someone who's just recently started shaving with a straight razor!
Good video, So informational. Also i noticed you are a traveling man. Good day brother!
Excellent video and very informative. This is a great video to guide beginners. Please keep these videos going!!!!
I normally use the SRD chromium oxide crayon. Little goes a long way and it is very consistent and reliable.
Dovo is seriously behind in getting razor out to the industry as a whole. Check out the Ralf Aust razors. They are very nice.
Lynn Abrams do you have any experience with NOS razor like puma, Dorko etc. How you find them?
Hi there Lynn , I have recently bought a cheep straight razor from china ( I can just see you shaking your head lol) but I ave watched your RUclips videos, following all your tips and guides ref stropping and honing, so at the moment our kitchen knifes would look pride of place in a restaurant. anyway the razor I bought is called gold dollar it was cheap but I was surprised for my first straight razor shave was very smooth with only one cut, but am looking to step up the quality of my blade and looking for some advice, I live over here is Scotland and I really want to continue this style of shaving .... I like it !!!
Thanks Sean
I have to correct myself, Lyn. To dry it out in the sun a while was my own idea. Sorry if I insinuated that it was your idea.
Thanks again for the help!
Some people use a couple of spine leading strokes when both refreshing a razor and at the end of their honing regiment followed by a few regular sharpening strokes. I would try it and see how it works for you.
Hi Lynn,
thanks a lot for your video and for sharing your huge experiance with us!
This Video encouraged me to try my set 5000+8000SS to "refresh" a new - not shave ready Dovo Bismarck -- and the result was amazing !! (1+3;4+5 Pyramid).
"refreshing" with a pyramid is really a good point to start.
Best Regards
Hajo
what a nice video .im finally learning this
Have used noting but leather strops, an Arkansas stone, fabric strop with chromium paste to maintain my razor for over 10 years. As long as you don't damage the edge, you should never need to re-set the bevel.
Before re-honing it, try stropping it and making sure your angle is less than 30 degrees or that the spine is only one spine width off the face. Try just shaving from one sideburn to the jaw on that side of the face. If it still doesn't shave nicely after a couple tries, then a honing might be in order.
I use the green oxide on my pocket knives and they get scary sharpe
I see your light my brother. Greetings from Wasington #2
Great need to no lerning videos realy love your videos and you make things so easy to understand thanks a lot so much helpful info
Thanks I have learned a lot from you , well presented and even I can follow and understand. Geoff
Good evening, Brother (seeing your ring, I can justifiably refer to you as such),
I notice this video was posted in 2013, and so I’m a bit late. Nevertheless, I hope you get this (somewhat late) message...
At the age of 59 (soon to be 60 in May) I am just about to start using a straight razor for the first time ever. I bought all the required stuff and a brand new razor from a London company here in the UK.
I only discovered after purchasing the razor that before I use it I have to first sharpen it with a whetstone. So, with no knowledge whatsoever, I purchased a whetstone on Amazon. This is the one I bought:
“SHAN ZU Knife Sharpening Stone Knife Sharpeners Whetstone with Angle Guide Non-Slip Bamboo Base 2 Side Grit 1000/6000 Waterstone”
Now, I don’t know if this is sufficient or not... I have no idea. I only know that the grittiness levels (1000/6000) are lower than the ratings yours and others’ videos seem to be using.
Anyhow, a few days ago I tried following the sharpening and honing procedures given on another video (I hadn’t seen yours until this evening) and my razor’s edge ended up more blunt than I started!!!
I just can’t seem to get it. I’m following the procedure given on that other video (very similar to yours) but it’s not working. Could it be the stone?
Appreciating any advice you can offer.
Danny
I am thinking and debating if giving a try, Great video and very instructive. Thank you very much. Glad to see you are a Traveling man, congrats
Lynn,
Thanks for another great video. Very informative. I've got to try some of these techniques.
I just refreshed 3 of my razors and I did 20 on the 8k and 20 on the 12k (Naniwa Super Stomes ) and about 7 on the Crome ox. I’m playing around with less to see how that works. Last time I did a lot more and like 30 on the Crome ox.
Your videos are great man I’m thinking about buying one of your strops to upgrade from my amazon Naked Armor one
Thanks. I have been retired for a while now. Check out Smallflower.com for a strop.
@@LynnSAbrams thanks I ended up getting one from someone on one of the FB groups
I got my Crome ox “DIALUX “ bar
Naniwa 12K, 8K, 5K-3K combination stone and the 1K
I think I’m going to return the other stones and just keep the 12 K, I only have 2 straight razors , I don’t think I need all of them yet
I’ve been honing for over a year now, I’m really good now. Came a long way 💈😁🤙🏻💈
From my experience, I like the sprays better on the felt surfaces and the pastes better on the webbing or leather.
Hello Lynn!
I've watched this video several times and enjoyd watching it. I even pick up some points that I've forgotten or missed. I really do apreciate your videos!! I find them quite helpful. thanks for the videos- this one and in particular the video about circular motion technique on the 4/8k Norton stones. I found that video very,very helpful!!
I tried it and it really sharpened my razor to a very nice level.
I have a question though regarding this video. When you notice that the paste ( chromium-oxide or Diamond Paste, etc.) on your canvas [felt,etc] has faded or that it is not doing it's job;do you (1) wash it off, let the strop dry, then add new paste? Or (2) Do you just add new paste over the old one? What do you recommend?
Again thanks for posting such fine videos!!
I just started doing this straight edge.
Have fun!!
Excellent video. Answers all my remaining questions. Thanks so much.
Wonderful! Iam a newbie this is fabulous info.
Thank you for a great video .
The scrub leather is being used in lieu of a webbing or canvas type second strop.
Very thorough 👌 Stay sharp
what is a good method to identify each stone ? im having issues keeping track of the things .This is awesome info from a grand master . I have a few knives i keep an amazing edge on using the same principles. I found an amazing 1940's vintage German razor on ebay that i fixed up (my first one) and looked at it under an electron beam microscope , The scratches and pattern are incredible . I use a sharpie before each stone or procedure to see what it does. I could never afford one of these microscopes but my job has one and i sneak in there at lunch time to take a peek . at 200 x and 300x you actually see whisker remains that look like tree bark. The blade always maintains a radius regardless a true point is theory impossible .
im so glad i quit using disposable razors and blue shave goo
Hey brethren. Thanks for the information.
Hi Lynn. I am looking at getting a proper straight razor soon, after using a shavette for a couple of months. One concern I have though is that I cant seem to find a shop that sells the compound/paste here is South Africa. Is it possible to refresh the blade by simply using the back(rough side) of the leather strop and then stropping it again as normal?
Brilliant video, thanks! Could you explain how much pressure you apply when using stones?
I just refresh when the razor starts to pull a little. You could go the the Norton if that is your preference.
Thank you Johnathan!
Excellent video. I had a company sharpen two straight razors on only one side of the blade with a machine. My gut tells me he just wrecked them because they are only sharp on one side. He said it was better to have only one side beveled. 🤔 The one razor that is not that deep, has a pretty thick edge on one side that you can easily see. Is this possible to have re-beveled properly is will this be too much work to accomplish? My second straight razor looks much newer and much deeper. When he sharpened it, the bevel did not look so deep or thick. You could barely see it. So I believe it would not take as much effort to re-bevel both sides proper. I have never used these before nor have I ever sharpened one before. I am just starting to use brand new one with a replaceable blades. From me being a butcher in the past, I love sharpening my own knives and other tools. I want to learn how to sharpen a straight razor properly. What is the best method to have these two straight razors re-beveled properly? What should I buy to get started?
I normally use a 1K stone (Naniwa Traditional or Professional 1K) to put the bevel on the razor. In my opinion, getting the bevel right is the foundation for sharpening straight razors.
No problem Jamie.
Thanks for the video. I am new to straight razor shaving. Nice ring, Abe Hinson #472
Thanks! Rising Sun #115
Lynn, do you recommend removing the base that is atrached to Naniwa Super Stones or Choseras? I like your videos lot, keep your good work!
I always use the bases when available 👍. Thanks!
Great demo! Very helpful info.
Lynn I went to your website to buy a straight razor but it seems most (all that I've clicked) say out of order. Can you point me to a good razor/set?
Thank- you for the reply. I did as you suggested- to spread it more with my fingers, and then to dry it out in the sun for an hour or two, and that helped. Thanks! I did apply it rather prudently- just enough for the belt to be an even green, and dried well in some places. However, Next time I'll be more careful.
I have another question and would once again appreciate your advice:
I have a balsa stropping board that was laced with liquid paste ( chromium oxide ) directly onto the wood. By now there are brown streaks on two thirds of he board area respectively. This probably means that it's time to refresh it. What would be a good procedure to do this?
Thanks again for your help!!
thanks for the video. You appear to be about my age, so I'm sure you remember the barber, who would just strop on his equipment, and always had an edge quite sharp enough to shave with. I'm sure he usesd stones when needed, but there were neither Shapton glass, or Nanua (sp?) stone cleaners, and for sure there was no 5 micron fairy dust. I really do appreciate the work, and effort, but at what point does one hit the point of diminished return ?
IMO you should be able to function well once you get to the 12k stone.
@@LynnSAbrams Yes, I agree, but I think that is still overkill. I just use a HARD Arkansas, and a strop. Maybe I'll get a finer stone and try it. Thanks
Some used to use just a Carborundum and Arkies as well. Have fun.
Hello Brother! Excellent video. Many thanks. May I ask, how long do you think someone can maintain a straight razor for? Could it be a lifetime?
I think in many cases, you can go years on just refreshing a razor so long as the edge is not damaged along the way.
I have a shavette and want to move up to a real straight razor. What would you recommend for a first real straight razor? (I am in the UK)
Thanks
whitedragon101 Ralf Aust, Dovo, Revisor, TI. All should be available near you. Don’t overlook vintage in good condition as well.
Great video. Thanks a lot for the tutorial. One question, are you laying the razor on it's side for the honing and stropping? Aka. is the spine touching on every stroke?
The spine and the edge are touching both the stone and strop for best results.
I don't have the patience or the funds for all this gear but interesting video nonetheless. cheers sir.
Very good Information.
Thanx for your videos learned a bunch! What is the difference between leather strops? From a cheap one to an expensive one. Is not leather the same from one to the next? Thanx in advance.
Excellent, thank you.
Great videos !
Thankyou for your advice, much appreciated.
Not sure what strop you have. The crayon works well for me on the poly webbing or cotton canvas or linen second strops as well as on the back of the leather strops.
Is that honing paddle magnetic for swapping out the panels?
Lynn, which finishing stone do you like the best. I am not asking which stone makes the sharpest blade. Which finishing stone feels like shaving with butter. Thanks and I miss Straight Razor Design. Take Care……
Suehiro 20K remains my favorite all around finisher. All the best and thanks!
Hi, thanks for the video. Very informative! Are you laying the blade down flat so that the spine is also gliding along the stone, or are you lifting it off and only allowing the edge of the blade to touch?
Great video! thank you very much!
Great video! Thanks!
Wow awesome video!!
Great info thanks
Hey Lynn, thank you for this video it is great. I wasn't sure if I'd take a liking to shaving with a straight razor so I started with a shavette and am now more than ready for the real deal. This video has definitely lifted my concerns about maintaining a sharp razor however I was wondering at what angle do you hold the razor when honing it on a stone? Do you rest the spine down on the stone as well or keep it up off of the stone? I want to keep it consistent and for sure don't want to damage a good blade. Thank you so much
Both the spine of the razor and the edge should be on the stone when sharpening and stropping. Thanks.