Not as simple as it seems. I support individuals regardless of their sexual orientation. I don't blindly support LGBTXYZ. Does that make me Homophobic?
Why did you not post the entire interview here? Her crazy ramblings at the end of the interview are relevant to her state of mind. Her "apology" still makes no sense.
Wow, she is better at deflecting a question than any politician I have ever heard. This was more frustrating to watch than Ronald Reagan at a press conference!
She's apparently SUFFERING from chronic mental anguish which is interfering with her sense of any kind of coherency. It is my non-professional opinion that Michelle is in NEED of IMMEDIATE INSTITUTIONAL REMEDIATION!
I'm gay and even though I didn't choose it, I don't think I'd want to be straight. I like being me. I wouldn't know the people I know, nor would I have had the life experiences I've had were I straight. Has it been easy? No! But I've come to realize that no one's life is easy. I came out, my family disowned me. A girl I know took an Indian husband home, her family disowned her. Similar but different. I did get married. We've been together for 24 years & married for 7. To each his own. Be well.
Phew, that was like pulling teeth; prolonged and agonising. I might be going out on a limb here, but she does strike me as conflicted. A bisexual woman, now in a strong heterosexual relationship. Maybe she is contemptuous of her past? I don't know why?
Takes her two and a half minutes to answer a simple question. I met her 22 years ago and she seemed so sweet, warm and inclusive. I don't know what happened to her to turn her this way now but it's really sad.
Same here. I've met her twice and it is indeed hard to reconcile the warm and generous person who even hugged me after the first chat with subsequent news reports and clips like these. Well, I do not approve of a few things she's said and done, but I remain a fan of her music.
***** I've had unfortunate encounters with an odd contingent - in 'real life' as well as online - who vehemently argue against the existence of mental illness/eschew the use of psychotropic medications under ANY circumstances And they aren't confined to the toxic but dwindling scientology community. I am certainly skeptical with respect to over- medicated / incorrectly diagnosed individuals, particularly kids, but even more disturbing to me is the dangerous belief that mental illness simply does not exist, period. It's my impression that many who espouse this idea have been diagnosed with serious psychiatric disorders themselves and are in profound denial. No reasonably observant person could look at Michelle 's uber-erratic, self-destructive behavior in the past few years and conclude that she's mentally sound. To lend further credence to that conclusion, an inpatient stay at a psychiatric hospital
zelie-catherine r sorry- a cat forced my hand to hit thr send prematurely ! Anyway, I think i was referring to her psychiatric hospitalization as a teen, which is well - documented. She reminds me SO much of an unmedicated paranoid schizophrenic I know that it is truly chilling - I'd actually place my bets on that as the source of trouble if I were the gambling sort. Stubbornness about taking meds is common among this group...if my hunch is even close to correct, she won't improve unless and until she is properly medicated and undergoes intensive psychiatric therapy.
+Gra Smi no unfortunately she's getting WORSE not better. Her latest caper is not honoring European tour dates, demonizing her promotor and harassing him so much he had to not only BLOCK her ass @mshockedrox but REPORT her to Twitter, She also libeled and slandered his good name by FALSELY claiming he never paid her similar to what she originally did to the great producer Pete Lawrence regarding the "Texas Campfire Tapes" circa 1986 or so. She's still COMPLETELY out of control and Extremely HATEFUL and SPITEFUL!
+zelie-catherine r yea her own MENTALLY DISTURBED Mormon ma-ma who regularly allowed wild animals into the Johnston domicile in East Texas where Michelle grew up (according to Karen herself) before she RAN AWAY FROM HOME had Michelle/Karen COMMITTED to the MENTAL INSTITUTION! Btw ALL these Mental Institutions in The USA should be investigated by Congress due to the almost Universal Cruel&Unusual PUNISHMENT meted out. Michelle herself related in a public address to a mental health advocacy group about 10 years she was TREATED so HORRIBLY, she had to make FECAL MATTER(translation:SHIT) in her own bed at the Psychiatric Institution. So the Whole Field of Psychiatry and it's Concomitant institutions must IMMEDIATELY BE INVESTIGATED and if appropriate PROSECUTED to the FULL EXTENT OF THE LAW, if it merits that.
Hmm I was putting some songs for my youngest on a USB Songs I remember like yesterday and who they remind of. Eddie Bricknell, Shirley Manson, Janis ( from my very young youth lol) when searching Michelle vids plus lyrics I came across this. My hope is she was being facetious and called out a double bluff which was cruel in her own life Working in a notoriously mysoginistic yet homophobic industry. And calling out her frustration with so called Christians wearing their homophobia condoned by homophobic religion. Or I could be wrong. It was possibly harder to out yourself back in the day. But this is the catch. Maybe she wasn't gay or bi but got sick of the rumours about her sexuality. Pure rage in questioning the singer not the song I think she was unique, honest and talented That's why her music was in our orbit And dam she plays a mean mandolin Who cares really - it's like Adele's fans turning on her weight loss or Kylie fans threatening Nick Cave on stage lol Hypocrisy and irony everywhere Throw me in the shallow water
I'm gay, my dad's a Baptist pastor, and he accepts me as I am. I don't fear judgment of God or any deity, because I know that the message of true unconditional love is something that is incomprehensible by most people who follow a dogmatic religion. You wrap your ignorance and hatred under the blanket of "concern" and claim you're not homophobic. To be fair, change is rarely something Christianity has dealt with rationally. Why assign God human characteristics such as judgment and warmongering?
I spent a lot of time listening to her music back in the 90's and now I can't find a single song of her's on youtube, plenty about her homophobic views but not a single song separate the art from the artist is all I'll say
Why should a youtuber upload content he doesn't like? You can upload her music to RUclips if you want. However, be careful not to violate any copyrights.
@@genki2705 I didn't say youtubers *should* upload her music on youtube I was just pointing out that it is difficult to find her music on youtube Specifically, if you just use her name as a base reference for finding her music
The interrogation started before we went on air. After hours of exhaustive research by his staff, he asked me right before we went on air if Michelle Shocked is my real name. My point? There is no such thing as a simple yes or no question when the Court of Public Opinion conducts a Trial by Media.
She tapped danced her way around that answer better than Gregory Hines! 😂 Seriously, what’s wrong with answering the question directly instead of just beating around the bush?
No pun intended, right lol... Yeah, that was a really sketchy answer, I mean, are we sure she's not saying she wouldn't want to deny anyone that wonderful heterosexual love she has?? One thing I've always thought, tho, was that she was a little weird.
There are many people out there who are still our enemies while not being "100% solid Christian bigot." I've seen a lot as well. They were my family, friends, neighbors and acquaintances when I was growing up.
Quit playing the victim card. You are NOT being blacklisted or victimized. You are NOT being censored. You ARE experiencing the consequences of a bad choice. The people canceling your shows are businesses who are NOT obligated to support you. They are making a choice to serve their customers rather than you. If I went into the Lifeway Christian Center and started trying to convert everyone to Wicca or Buddhism - should I be shocked when they ask me to leave? Same situation.
Well I'm gay, so I certainly don't oppose gay rights or that we should be able to get married. But coming from a Christian background--not that I subscribe to it anymore--I do understand some of what she's trying to say. Maybe she's confused on her beliefs, who knows, I could be interpreting it wrong. When I look at her, I do think she's cryptic and odd, if not misinterpreted. I don't see an enemy in her though, she doesn't strike me as a 100% solid Christian bigot. Trust me, I've seen a lot.
When a t.v. journalist/interviewer asks you a series of questions, the best thing is to supply clear and concise answers with limited explanations when you must. There's no time for abstruse or convoluted ruminations on personal truths that you think are logical and complex, but which are actually neither. Like many here, I came away with the sense that M.S. was trying to dress up old school, limited 1980s Christian tolerance as profound, artistic truth. She should move on and stop talking.
Thank you =) I have no hatred for anyone. A lot of people are misunderstood, many of whom should not bear the fault for it due to their own personal lives and experiences, what they were taught, or how they were raised. Being in the middle of some of these arguments though and growing up in the family I did, it's rather enlightening for me. I can understand the anger on both sides. I just wish we could all speak so rationally & come to a greater mutual understanding of what love means to us all.
Morgan: "Is Michelle Shocked you real name?" Shocked: "No." Why would that have been so difficult? For a rational, thinking person not trying to hide sh!t it would have been fine.
I wish their was a documentary about her life, how she got this way. Such a transformation from where she was before.she must believe it, because in so doing, she's lost all her old fan base. What happens to someone to change her perspective like this?
I was never religious, I was always a feminist fan of Michelle Shocked and I still am. Her fans are diverse, as they've always been. I'm accepting of artists' differences from me. You wrote she's lost "all" her old fan base. Why assume someone like me does not exist? Why act like a documentary would not be an invasion of her privacy or that it wouldn't matter if it is? I don't think you'd like it if someone treated you that way, wanting to make your personal details public without your permission.
I'm waving goodbye to censorship and blacklisting just by typing this message to you, Alexandra. I can go on all night about 'reminders' because I have a gig to reclaim on April 24 at Palms Playhouse in Winters CA. What part of 'other homophobic celebrities' did you not understand? I'm not homophobic, and I sure aint a celebrity. I'm roadkill in Big Data's war on content creators but I've got a song in my heart & I'm still singing. Keep your fascist views to yourself. I'm kicking out the jambs.
Wow. Now there's a cagey answer. Whatever journey she's on, I hope she finds happiness. I just hope her happiness doesn't mean denying it to others who are different.
This is heart breaking. I performed with her at my elementary school about 23 years ago and since I was an artsy kid, I could tell she liked me and we talked a lot during rehearsals. I wonder what happened to make her say such horrible things for no reason :(
She is the star SHE SHOULD BE INTERVIEWING HIM HE's nobody except a recorder of celebrities and politicians in the uk while he shilled for the Murdoch man.HES PATHETIC SHE IS A STAR A REAL TALENT AND HER DETRACTORS ARE ALL INSANELY JEALOUS.
It's just so hard to believe. I only heard about it recently and I thought she was just making a bad joke. It was lesbians who introduced me to Michelle Shocked in the '90s! But this weird evasiveness and no outright apology or denial (in plain words) makes it evident that something is going on, her believes not far from what was stated, hard as that is to believe. She's had this sort of question many times over the years, especially when most people assumed she was gay or bi (common or commonly assumed of 'alt-rock' performers at the time she appeared). But I do wonder if it was something new, like this guy she's with, that influenced her. I know a bunch of sharp, talented people that just soak up beliefs from whoever they are with.
@@paulburrell7058 - what's your take on it? At this point I'm just "sometimes even our smart friends say or think some dumbass thing". But to say it there and then in SF? Just doesn't make sense to me.
If anybody who serves a prison sentence in good behaviour deserves a second chance, then so does Michelle Shocked, whose only sin has been a nasty rant on a bad day. Woman, go forth and rant no more. Thy sins have been forgiven
Ixinxs, of course we can and should forgive her no question. But as it stands the women STILL has NEVER apologized sincerely, straight-forwardly in an unambiguous manner for her Hurtful,Hateful comments and IMMEDIATELY resumed her TIRADES on twitter for 18 plus months admittedly against a mob BUT she could have at least contained if not obviated their brute force if she would have displayed some kind-hearted woman-ness and humility from the get-go instead of digging her poison in the proverbial wells of her antagonists hate streams ever so deeper and deeper.
MusicMC1 Perhaps I am too mild, but I think the gay community should occasionally (and loudly) proclaim an amnesty of sorts for this kind of bigots and say "We will now turn off our bitch switch, but only for as long as you do the same". See what happens.
IxInxs Karen Michelle "Shocked" Johnston has done MUCH MORE than conduct a one night "rant". She has been barking (mad) on Twitter for 28 months now as of July 2015!!! She has alternately insulted, taunted, doxxed, subjected her audience to terrible pretentious faux poetry, puked out conspiracy theories that even INSANE Alex Jones would laugh at, antagonized, goaded, cursed etc. JUST ABOUT EVERYBODY on Twitter that didn't kiss her undoubtedly ravaged Ass.(I almost at one point felt sorry for that , DESPICABLE, UNPRINCIPLED, EGOTISTICAL,FULL-of-HIMSELF Excuse for a Journalist the Inexorable Cretinous Miscreant CHRIS WILLMAN, Michelle Shocked's ORIGINAL ENEMY NUMBER 1)!!!!
The clubs that cancelled your remaining gigs aren't trying to censor you darling. It's called self-preservation. Something in which you seem to need a crash course.
Good lord. I remembered listening to her in college and went searching for a song or two to reminisce, and I find this. What a disgusting person she's become.
...what's truly sad is that she's legitimately a ONE-HIT WONDER and canceling her and that one hit...which you can't find ANYWHERE...is like erasing her from existence...so, now, if you don't know who Michelle Shocked is...or what that one song is...you could easily look at this clip and think... 🤷♂️ why is Piers Morgan interviewing that Jo Ann's Fabrics employee?
People put too much interest into what "celebrities" have to say. Personally I don't care what other people think or feel. I still love the song Anchorage and don't care what she said about anyone. PC culture is more disgusting than any type of speech ever could be...
I don't feel bad for her at all. She "lost her job" because she flipped the bird to the very people who followed and supported her. If I was at work and I told the people who paid my salary that they were abominations and going to hell, how much longer do you think I'd be gainfully employed?
I don't really give a fuck about your capitalist framework because it's fundamentally gross and psychotic. You shouldn't be deprived of a livelihood for any reason.
People with the kind of integrity she has shown are so rare, a lazy, mindless PC person[the audience he referenced] would be way to simple to begin to understand her words...
"Integrity" you call it Jaimito Jim? I say baha haha baha you silly screwball of a strange stupid surreal simplistic salacious sinful smarmy sycophant!!!
lets make this simple. we are to teach and love gods word. he wants a personal relationship with each one of us, not as the world. let god take care of his own and we need to stop pointing the finger, fighting and killing each other over it. the people yelling, fighting and pointing the finger are in the wrong. you are not praising his name. you want to praise his name. love all his people.
She's cryptic and odd, no doubt. But what she said is she would never deny anyone the same rights to love someone in the same way she loves her boyfriend. Not a simple yes or no, which is what Piers was looking for, but certainly not evading the question. It's her long-winded way of saying she's not homophobic, basically.
My interpretation was that she was saying that only a heterosexual relationship can result in ultimate happiness. But maybe your interpretation is right.
As I said...I wish we could all speak rationally. I'm gay and was raised Christian, my father is a Baptist pastor, and I grew up in a kind and loving household where I was accepted for who I am. So I have the uncommon advantage of being able to see things from both perspectives. If holding rational conversations with both Christian and gay sides is trolling, then fine, I'll leave you to solve everything with rants and see how much understanding you gain.
" There are two things you don't discuss in polite company, religion and politics." Well, this is not polite company, Michelle. This is the internet. You are called out.
If being gay was a choice, I don't believe that I chose it. In fact, I struggled with my faith for quite some time because of homosexuality. Do I want to get married? No. I'm not even so sure I want to be romantically involved with anyone for the rest of my life, but if others like me want to get married, I believe they have every right to. After all, plenty of non-Christians get married in the church. Likewise, plenty of Christian married couples get a divorce. Yet no one argues about that.
She did say that, but I believe she meant it as a point of sarcasm. Her entire speech onstage in fact was taken wildly out of context. In simple terms, I think she meant to say that she does support LGBT rights and committed relationships, but she doesn't support gay marriage within a Christian church. At least that's what I gathered from it. Her wording was a bit confusing the first time I listened to the audio.
Why is it ok for that right wing plank, Morgan, to spew out his vile utterings, and its not ok for MS to respond and give her version, and then she gets criticised for her views. The ladies views are somewhat tame , but true, compared to the non listening Morgan. He only wants to provoke and show how clever he thinks he is. She wasn't fooled. Good luck to her.
We're not feeling hurt and angry. We're upset that you're trying to deny that you said what you said. Personally, I barely remember your music and hasn't thought about you in a decade or so. I thought you were mildly talented way back when, but so were a lot of people we don't hear about any more. The thing is, they haven't said h@teful, big@ted things in the name of J.C. and then later lied about what their "true" intent was. You have. We not angry, we're just tired of the bu!!shit.
"If you want to make it simple for the audience" is like saying she's not homophobic BUT...! I've loved her music but her persona is weird. Not to mention she now charges $250 for one of her CD's. I thought it was a misprint when I first went to her page.
as a christian i always liked SHOCKED without knowing she's a christian-- it's no surprise that she gets the miff for speaking out, which is not a typical thing for other professed christians these days - celebrity or otherwise
I'm partial to funny stuff. That's a kind of prejudice. I really don't dig the gay-bashing and gay-baiting I'm seeing here, and my empathy lies with anyone trying to conduct civilized discourse in such a degrading environment
Considering that Piers nowadays is called Transphobic and often clashes with members of the LGBT, I wish he would reinterview Michelle and allow her a voice again 11 years later.
Promise? What about the torrents? The bootlegs? The file sharing? Do you promise to boycott it all? The RUclips videos? The Amazon used CDs? The Pandora streams? The Spotify playlists? Please, please, please tell me you're not buying any of it. Gratefully~ Michelle
I think anger and hatred are signs of fear but I don't think fear is exclusive to homophobia. I think fear has a pretty broad range of breeding grounds these days.
Anchorage, etc short sharp shocked Wow, several really good songs Graffiti Jungle.?? Limbo Outstanding Captain Swing ? Lovely good music and it's been about 25 years since I listened to her, properly, full tape, saw her at the Barrowland Glasgow '86,87? Good Listening.
Great listening, indeed. Several of her albums are exceptional (with a couple of disappointing ones, admittedly). 'Captain Swing' ought to be near the top of any "Best Albums" list. As with a few of my other musical idols, most have said and done things I don't associate with, but I still enjoy their music in the seperate-the-art-from-the-artist sort of way. I've twice had the good fortune to have a private chat with Michelle during two of her tours to South Africa (roughly a decade ago) and I have very pleasant recollections of that, even getting a hug too. Though that certainly doesn't mean that I don't realise that she too has feet of clay, just like each one of us.
@@scottlochans4180 Those will always remain among my favourite albums of all time. Sublime stuff. 'Arkansas Traveller', 'Threesome'...They're all quality. Lucky you to have seen her in the 1980s already! My first time was only in 1995, in London at the Fleadh Festival. Been at 3 of her concerts, and they were all special, but I sure wish I could have been at THAT campfire too!
2. Gay people do not have "rights and protections under the law as anyone else." In many states we can be fired or denied housing for being gay. No right to marry means gay couples don't quality for some 1,200+ federal tax benefits that straight couples do. 3. Marriage is always being redefined. Long ago, polygamy was the rule. Then it became a contract that dealt with money, land and title. Women were mere chattel. Gays don't seek to redefine marriage. We want equality. It's pretty simple.
Exactly. And don't be ashamed of the Gospel. But I also believe that if there are Christians out there with true unconditional love in their hearts who support LGBT equality, I would ask that they be kind & rational enough to ask other Christians not to make a huge deal out of it. A lot of Christians & gays hate each other. That doesn't need to happen, and laws need not be made on marriage between 2 consenting adults. The US isn't a theocracy, but some people unfortunately seem to think it is.
What the heck does she think, girl friend you're giving a concert, in public, and you make a statement like that....Its like saying "well lets keep this between you and me.", Now you're back tracking trying to save your ass. Let go of the hate, your self hating, and the hating of others....and things will be cool.
Rod Madison does NOT "know" Karen Michelle "Shocked" Johnson any more than I call up President Obama for a dinner date every week at Rat Burgers.... Um..... Sorry I meant White Castle. Hehe haha Hoho!!!!! Rod Madison sounds like a TROLL name take off on the character Oscar Madison from the Odd Couple television program and believe you me Rod sounds like an ODDBALL himself like his idol Michelle Shocked. #NoLaughRiotHere #Regrets
+Rod Madison Ok if that is "true" and I'm very skeptical pal, would you come clean and reveal your REAL NAME? Please allow me to EM you because I also met her albeit in less than ideal manner. I'm pretty sure she is poised for a complete mental breakdown if she continues down this warped path in such a headstrong manner.
+Rod Madison Michelle Shocked specifically and repeatedly told her erstwhile "Knight-In-Shining-Armour" Mr. Kissa himself that she doesn't have a phone because she claimed Google "stole" her IP. Chris Willman, yes that Willman the Slimy, Discredited Journalist who DESTROYED Karen Michelle "Shocked" Johnston's career according to 'Chelle(bad nose job) can vouch for this fact along with his partners in crime Lorraine Latta, the disgraced former Warner Brothers employee from LA who was fired for allegedly stealing company data, and Kevin Marousek the Orange County Toys are Us factotum who has at least 50 Twitter sock puppet accounts including @percentuno and @ipadgoober and used to call himself @annainyourpants when he Terrorized 'Chelle dog and her erstwhile ally Mr. Kisa.
And she claims all her previously released music on Mercury records are bootleg, original CD , Mercury pulled out, look it up. “She made too good of a deal for herself”
I don't fear Christianity. I'm gay & the son of a Baptist pastor who accepts me as I am. What I fear is that my dad will one day be one of the few sane & rational Christians left on the entire planet because of the bigotry and hatred of those who refuse to understand & who would rather see me dead than in heaven. I don't fear Christianity, I fear it's followers, because most in this age are the most blatantly psychotic, judgmental, un-Christ-like people I've ever seen. They need a wake up call.
And as Shocked waves goodbye to whatever career she had left, other homophobic celebrities are reminded they have to keep their bigoted views to themselves.
Michelle and I used to live in the same hood. Her loft is in the Biscuit Company Lofts in Downtown Los Angeles. Michelle, did you walk to the L.A. Mission for your recent concert? Be careful on those Skid Row streets!
Why are you so angry? I didn't write the Bible. As for unconditional love. Not sure where you go tthat from. My Bible says Adam and Eve were cast out of the garden for disobedience. That proves God is a God of order. If you step out of His will, He will do as He promised. Thing is, He loves you enough to still send as much love as He can in the hopes you will see His plan for you. In any event, know this., I am one Christian that will be praying for you with as much love as I an muster.
1. Much of what you say is factually inaccurate. Lawrence v. Texas was decided in 2003, not "almost 200 years ago." The "sodomite" laws pertained to straights and gays alike. Re: "loving Christians," you're not one. Real Christians love and accept people. They don't use profane language, nor do they condemn those they don't care for using cherry-picked passage from the bible, ignoring the inconvenient bits that pertain to them. Unless you support Lev 20:9-10, you're just a hypocrite.
It is important to actually make sense , and to stick with facts . If someone calls themselves a christian and molests children they are not a christian , they are a pervert . I never advocated anyone molesting chidren . Be careful stretching things out like that , you are beginning to look like you don't care what you say .
She is " very in love " with a mythology. The stories surrounding Jesus are a mythological creation. Christians never bother to question or investigate how their belief system was created. Live your life in truth not fiction.
yeesh, it's gotta be hard to come off as more unappealing than piers morgan but she managed to do it...
"No I'm not homophobic." That's all you had to say Michelle. He only asked you that like 3 times.
Thank you I was thinking the same thing
Yeah, it was like pulling teeth!
Not as simple as it seems. I support individuals regardless of their sexual orientation. I don't blindly support LGBTXYZ. Does that make me Homophobic?
But she is indeed homophobic.
Why did you not post the entire interview here? Her crazy ramblings at the end of the interview are relevant to her state of mind. Her "apology" still makes no sense.
Wow, she is better at deflecting a question than any politician I have ever heard. This was more frustrating to watch than Ronald Reagan at a press conference!
She's apparently SUFFERING from chronic mental anguish which is interfering with her sense of any kind of coherency. It is my non-professional opinion that Michelle is in NEED of IMMEDIATE INSTITUTIONAL REMEDIATION!
@@JBCo2012 lol
At least Ronnie could crack a good joke
I'm gay and even though I didn't choose it, I don't think I'd want to be straight. I like being me. I wouldn't know the people I know, nor would I have had the life experiences I've had were I straight. Has it been easy? No! But I've come to realize that no one's life is easy. I came out, my family disowned me. A girl I know took an Indian husband home, her family disowned her. Similar but different. I did get married. We've been together for 24 years & married for 7. To each his own. Be well.
Happy for you. Life is hard. Whatever path we walk. Just want people to be happy. Hope that today was a good day. Tomorrow too.
I wish I am a gay but I am not unfortunately...
Phew, that was like pulling teeth; prolonged and agonising. I might be going out on a limb here, but she does strike me as conflicted. A bisexual woman, now in a strong heterosexual relationship. Maybe she is contemptuous of her past? I don't know why?
Takes her two and a half minutes to answer a simple question. I met her 22 years ago and she seemed so sweet, warm and inclusive. I don't know what happened to her to turn her this way now but it's really sad.
Same here. I've met her twice and it is indeed hard to reconcile the warm and generous person who even hugged me after the first chat with subsequent news reports and clips like these. Well, I do not approve of a few things she's said and done, but I remain a fan of her music.
@@JacoWium She hugged me, too! She was the one who initiated it with me, on top of that!
@@BrianScottHarris I'm so relieved to hear that - one less person who'd react with scepticism to a cherished memory..! 😅
Michelle Shocked is the most confounding person I have ever met.The last time I saw her in person it was a disaster.
***** I've had unfortunate encounters with an odd contingent - in 'real life' as well as online - who vehemently argue against the existence of mental illness/eschew the use of psychotropic medications under ANY circumstances
And they aren't confined to the toxic but dwindling scientology community. I am certainly skeptical with respect to over- medicated / incorrectly diagnosed individuals, particularly kids, but even more disturbing to me is the dangerous belief that mental illness simply does not exist, period. It's my impression that many who espouse this idea have been diagnosed with serious psychiatric disorders themselves and are in profound denial. No reasonably observant person could look at Michelle 's uber-erratic, self-destructive behavior in the past few years and conclude that she's mentally sound. To lend further credence to that conclusion, an inpatient stay at a psychiatric hospital
zelie-catherine r sorry- a cat forced my hand to hit thr send prematurely ! Anyway, I think i was referring to her psychiatric hospitalization as a teen, which is well - documented. She reminds me SO much of an unmedicated paranoid schizophrenic I know that it is truly chilling - I'd actually place my bets on that as the source of trouble if I were the gambling sort. Stubbornness about taking meds is common among this group...if my hunch is even close to correct, she won't improve unless and until she is properly medicated and undergoes intensive psychiatric therapy.
Sorry for all the typos - can't edit comments on this phone for some frustrating reason...hope my comments are decipherable !
+Gra Smi no unfortunately she's getting WORSE not better. Her latest caper is not honoring European tour dates, demonizing her promotor and harassing him so much he had to not only BLOCK her ass @mshockedrox but REPORT her to Twitter, She also libeled and slandered his good name by FALSELY claiming he never paid her similar to what she originally did to the great producer Pete Lawrence regarding the "Texas Campfire Tapes" circa 1986 or so.
She's still COMPLETELY out of control and Extremely HATEFUL and SPITEFUL!
+zelie-catherine r yea her own MENTALLY DISTURBED Mormon ma-ma who regularly allowed wild animals into the Johnston domicile in East Texas where Michelle grew up (according to Karen herself) before she RAN AWAY FROM HOME had Michelle/Karen COMMITTED to the MENTAL INSTITUTION!
Btw ALL these Mental Institutions in The USA should be investigated by Congress due to the almost Universal Cruel&Unusual PUNISHMENT meted out.
Michelle herself related in a public address to a mental health advocacy group about 10 years she was TREATED so HORRIBLY, she had to make FECAL MATTER(translation:SHIT) in her own bed at the Psychiatric Institution.
So the Whole Field of Psychiatry and it's Concomitant institutions must IMMEDIATELY BE INVESTIGATED and if appropriate PROSECUTED to the FULL EXTENT OF THE LAW, if it merits that.
What she can't say from the first time asked... No, I'm not homophobic, you know she is homophobic.
This woman’s music was the soundtrack to my student years 29 years ago but that memory is shattered by this.
So is mine.
Yet, 90% of Americans have no issue with God saying that gays should be executed.
Hmm I was putting some songs for my youngest on a USB
Songs I remember like yesterday and who they remind of.
Eddie Bricknell, Shirley Manson, Janis ( from my very young youth lol) when searching Michelle vids plus lyrics I came across this.
My hope is she was being facetious and called out a double bluff which was cruel in her own life
Working in a notoriously mysoginistic yet homophobic industry.
And calling out her frustration with so called Christians wearing their homophobia condoned by homophobic religion.
Or I could be wrong.
It was possibly harder to out yourself back in the day.
But this is the catch. Maybe she wasn't gay or bi but got sick of the rumours about her sexuality.
Pure rage in questioning the singer not the song
I think she was unique, honest and talented
That's why her music was in our orbit
And dam she plays a mean mandolin
Who cares really - it's like Adele's fans turning on her weight loss or Kylie fans threatening Nick Cave on stage lol
Hypocrisy and irony everywhere
Throw me in the shallow water
I'm gay, my dad's a Baptist pastor, and he accepts me as I am. I don't fear judgment of God or any deity, because I know that the message of true unconditional love is something that is incomprehensible by most people who follow a dogmatic religion. You wrap your ignorance and hatred under the blanket of "concern" and claim you're not homophobic. To be fair, change is rarely something Christianity has dealt with rationally. Why assign God human characteristics such as judgment and warmongering?
She keeps saying "If you want to keep this simple for the audience...." Does she think the audience is stupid?
It was he, the announcer, who first said to keep it simple for the audience. She was echoing him.
See 1:41
I spent a lot of time listening to her music back in the 90's and now I can't find a single song of her's on youtube, plenty about her homophobic views but not a single song
separate the art from the artist is all I'll say
My Captain Swing album disappeared from my Google playlist. I've had to buy it on CD and covert it to MP3.
For my part, judgement is not Mine to make.
Why should a youtuber upload content he doesn't like? You can upload her music to RUclips if you want. However, be careful not to violate any copyrights.
@@genki2705 I didn't say youtubers *should* upload her music on youtube
I was just pointing out that it is difficult to find her music on youtube
Specifically, if you just use her name as a base reference for finding her music
She took her music down
The interrogation started before we went on air. After hours of exhaustive research by his staff, he asked me right before we went on air if Michelle Shocked is my real name. My point? There is no such thing as a simple yes or no question when the Court of Public Opinion conducts a Trial by Media.
She tapped danced her way around that answer better than Gregory Hines! 😂 Seriously, what’s wrong with answering the question directly instead of just beating around the bush?
No pun intended, right lol... Yeah, that was a really sketchy answer, I mean, are we sure she's not saying she wouldn't want to deny anyone that wonderful heterosexual love she has?? One thing I've always thought, tho, was that she was a little weird.
There are many people out there who are still our enemies while not being "100% solid Christian bigot." I've seen a lot as well. They were my family, friends, neighbors and acquaintances when I was growing up.
Quit playing the victim card. You are NOT being blacklisted or victimized. You are NOT being censored.
You ARE experiencing the consequences of a bad choice. The people canceling your shows are businesses who are NOT obligated to support you. They are making a choice to serve their customers rather than you.
If I went into the Lifeway Christian Center and started trying to convert everyone to Wicca or Buddhism - should I be shocked when they ask me to leave? Same situation.
Well I'm gay, so I certainly don't oppose gay rights or that we should be able to get married. But coming from a Christian background--not that I subscribe to it anymore--I do understand some of what she's trying to say. Maybe she's confused on her beliefs, who knows, I could be interpreting it wrong. When I look at her, I do think she's cryptic and odd, if not misinterpreted. I don't see an enemy in her though, she doesn't strike me as a 100% solid Christian bigot. Trust me, I've seen a lot.
Your efforts to minimize this are absolutely incredible congrats!
She is definitely one very confused hater.
She really good at denying, why hasn’t she ran against the politicians yet?
When a t.v. journalist/interviewer asks you a series of questions, the best thing is to supply clear and concise answers with limited explanations when you must. There's no time for abstruse or convoluted ruminations on personal truths that you think are logical and complex, but which are actually neither. Like many here, I came away with the sense that M.S. was trying to dress up old school, limited 1980s Christian tolerance as profound, artistic truth. She should move on and stop talking.
Thank you =) I have no hatred for anyone. A lot of people are misunderstood, many of whom should not bear the fault for it due to their own personal lives and experiences, what they were taught, or how they were raised. Being in the middle of some of these arguments though and growing up in the family I did, it's rather enlightening for me. I can understand the anger on both sides. I just wish we could all speak so rationally & come to a greater mutual understanding of what love means to us all.
Morgan: "Is Michelle Shocked you real name?"
Shocked: "No."
Why would that have been so difficult? For a rational, thinking person not trying to hide sh!t it would have been fine.
I don't underrate my "audience" my audience. Piers' audience, on the other hand, is looking a little...um..like a reality tv show audience
I wish their was a documentary about her life, how she got this way. Such a transformation from where she was before.she must believe it, because in so doing, she's lost all her old fan base. What happens to someone to change her perspective like this?
Her perspective didn't change. America's did. Ask any random 20 years ago and they'd physically flinch when you talked about gay marriage
@@fark69 her perspective did change
I was never religious, I was always a feminist fan of Michelle Shocked and I still am. Her fans are diverse, as they've always been. I'm accepting of artists' differences from me. You wrote she's lost "all" her old fan base. Why assume someone like me does not exist? Why act like a documentary would not be an invasion of her privacy or that it wouldn't matter if it is? I don't think you'd like it if someone treated you that way, wanting to make your personal details public without your permission.
I'm waving goodbye to censorship and blacklisting just by typing this message to you, Alexandra. I can go on all night about 'reminders' because I have a gig to reclaim on April 24 at Palms Playhouse in Winters CA. What part of 'other homophobic celebrities' did you not understand? I'm not homophobic, and I sure aint a celebrity. I'm roadkill in Big Data's war on content creators but I've got a song in my heart & I'm still singing. Keep your fascist views to yourself. I'm kicking out the jambs.
that look in her eyes at 1:33 when he interrupts.
Explain??
We have been waiting for your explanation 222Lighting 3 years already ...
This woman is ridiculous!! She took back everything she said in her early songs!! Ridiculous!!!
oxymoron www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/michelle-shocked-a-meltdown-jesus-432050
Wow. Now there's a cagey answer.
Whatever journey she's on, I hope she finds happiness. I just hope her happiness doesn't mean denying it to others who are different.
This is heart breaking. I performed with her at my elementary school about 23 years ago and since I was an artsy kid, I could tell she liked me and we talked a lot during rehearsals. I wonder what happened to make her say such horrible things for no reason :(
She is the star SHE SHOULD BE INTERVIEWING HIM
HE's nobody except a recorder of celebrities and politicians in the uk while he shilled for the Murdoch man.HES PATHETIC
SHE IS A STAR A REAL TALENT AND HER DETRACTORS ARE ALL INSANELY JEALOUS.
It's just so hard to believe. I only heard about it recently and I thought she was just making a bad joke. It was lesbians who introduced me to Michelle Shocked in the '90s! But this weird evasiveness and no outright apology or denial (in plain words) makes it evident that something is going on, her believes not far from what was stated, hard as that is to believe. She's had this sort of question many times over the years, especially when most people assumed she was gay or bi (common or commonly assumed of 'alt-rock' performers at the time she appeared).
But I do wonder if it was something new, like this guy she's with, that influenced her. I know a bunch of sharp, talented people that just soak up beliefs from whoever they are with.
Well said
@@paulburrell7058 - what's your take on it? At this point I'm just "sometimes even our smart friends say or think some dumbass thing". But to say it there and then in SF? Just doesn't make sense to me.
If anybody who serves a prison sentence in good behaviour deserves a second chance, then so does Michelle Shocked, whose only sin has been a nasty rant on a bad day. Woman, go forth and rant no more. Thy sins have been forgiven
Thank you, Jesus Christ...Now can I go back to jerking off?
ixlnxs LOL!!!!
Ixinxs, of course we can and should forgive her no question. But as it stands the women STILL has NEVER apologized sincerely, straight-forwardly in an unambiguous manner for her Hurtful,Hateful comments and IMMEDIATELY resumed her TIRADES on twitter for 18 plus months admittedly against a mob BUT she could have at least contained if not obviated their brute force if she would have displayed some kind-hearted woman-ness and humility from the get-go instead of digging her poison in the proverbial wells of her antagonists hate streams ever so deeper and deeper.
MusicMC1 Perhaps I am too mild, but I think the gay community should occasionally (and loudly) proclaim an amnesty of sorts for this kind of bigots and say "We will now turn off our bitch switch, but only for as long as you do the same". See what happens.
IxInxs Karen Michelle "Shocked" Johnston has done MUCH MORE than conduct a one night "rant". She has been barking (mad) on Twitter for 28 months now as of July 2015!!! She has alternately insulted, taunted, doxxed, subjected her audience to terrible pretentious faux poetry, puked out conspiracy theories that even INSANE Alex Jones would laugh at, antagonized, goaded, cursed etc. JUST ABOUT EVERYBODY on Twitter that didn't kiss her undoubtedly ravaged Ass.(I almost at one point felt sorry for that , DESPICABLE, UNPRINCIPLED, EGOTISTICAL,FULL-of-HIMSELF Excuse for a Journalist the Inexorable Cretinous Miscreant CHRIS WILLMAN, Michelle Shocked's ORIGINAL ENEMY NUMBER 1)!!!!
Because I find the question onorous. But then again, I'm a communist.
Being a communist rules.
"I'm not racist, but..."
The clubs that cancelled your remaining gigs aren't trying to censor you darling. It's called self-preservation. Something in which you seem to need a crash course.
Good lord. I remembered listening to her in college and went searching for a song or two to reminisce, and I find this. What a disgusting person she's become.
Wow. A double barrel spiral loop de loop with a cannonball at the end. The Russian judges give this one a 10
...what's truly sad is that she's legitimately a ONE-HIT WONDER and canceling her and that one hit...which you can't find ANYWHERE...is like erasing her from existence...so, now, if you don't know who Michelle Shocked is...or what that one song is...you could easily look at this clip and think...
🤷♂️ why is Piers Morgan interviewing that Jo Ann's Fabrics employee?
You say she was long-winded, I say she was deceptively evasive.
or both
People put too much interest into what "celebrities" have to say. Personally I don't care what other people think or feel. I still love the song Anchorage and don't care what she said about anyone. PC culture is more disgusting than any type of speech ever could be...
Thanks for the common sense. You either believe in free speech, or you don't. Top musician, great band, some fundamentalist opinions.
1. This is a woman who was censored and blacklisted for expressing her views publicly. 2. We care because we tune.
She didn’t express them very well
@@j.c7719 She expressed them perfectly well. You, on the other hand, are a poor listener.
@@RUclipsIsAnEnemyToSongwriters she spent the first 2 and a half minutes avoiding the question and talking babble
I don't feel bad for her at all. She "lost her job" because she flipped the bird to the very people who followed and supported her. If I was at work and I told the people who paid my salary that they were abominations and going to hell, how much longer do you think I'd be gainfully employed?
I don't really give a fuck about your capitalist framework because it's fundamentally gross and psychotic. You shouldn't be deprived of a livelihood for any reason.
People with the kind of integrity she has shown are so rare, a lazy, mindless PC person[the audience he referenced] would be way to simple to begin to understand her words...
"Integrity" you call it Jaimito Jim? I say baha haha baha you silly screwball of a strange stupid surreal simplistic salacious sinful smarmy sycophant!!!
She's been struggling with mental illness for some time, it's pretty well known. Sorry to burst your bubble.
it really, really was a simple question.
"If you want to keep things simple for the audience, let me give it to you straight..."
Then, proceeds to over complicate her answer.
lets make this simple. we are to teach and love gods word. he wants a personal relationship with each one of us, not as the world. let god take care of his own and we need to stop pointing the finger, fighting and killing each other over it. the people yelling, fighting and pointing the finger are in the wrong. you are not praising his name. you want to praise his name. love all his people.
YES! I say this all the time! God made the gays, he made marijuana, he made everything! Lets love his creations!
I like the way you express yourself Pete. And the truths you express are very profound. Sincerely.
Well, she dragged that out unnecessarily.
She's cryptic and odd, no doubt. But what she said is she would never deny anyone the same rights to love someone in the same way she loves her boyfriend. Not a simple yes or no, which is what Piers was looking for, but certainly not evading the question. It's her long-winded way of saying she's not homophobic, basically.
My interpretation was that she was saying that only a heterosexual relationship can result in ultimate happiness. But maybe your interpretation is right.
As I said...I wish we could all speak rationally. I'm gay and was raised Christian, my father is a Baptist pastor, and I grew up in a kind and loving household where I was accepted for who I am. So I have the uncommon advantage of being able to see things from both perspectives. If holding rational conversations with both Christian and gay sides is trolling, then fine, I'll leave you to solve everything with rants and see how much understanding you gain.
" There are two things you don't discuss in polite company, religion and politics." Well, this is not polite company, Michelle. This is the internet. You are called out.
If being gay was a choice, I don't believe that I chose it. In fact, I struggled with my faith for quite some time because of homosexuality. Do I want to get married? No. I'm not even so sure I want to be romantically involved with anyone for the rest of my life, but if others like me want to get married, I believe they have every right to. After all, plenty of non-Christians get married in the church. Likewise, plenty of Christian married couples get a divorce. Yet no one argues about that.
She did say that, but I believe she meant it as a point of sarcasm. Her entire speech onstage in fact was taken wildly out of context. In simple terms, I think she meant to say that she does support LGBT rights and committed relationships, but she doesn't support gay marriage within a Christian church. At least that's what I gathered from it. Her wording was a bit confusing the first time I listened to the audio.
😂 Some spirituality there that discriminates against people because of who they fall in love with
she is banned pretty much but her music lives on if you can find it
There will be no "end of days" , someone made that up .
Why is it ok for that right wing plank, Morgan, to spew out his vile utterings, and its not ok for MS to respond and give her version, and then she gets criticised for her views. The ladies views are somewhat tame , but true, compared to the non listening Morgan. He only wants to provoke and show how clever he thinks he is. She wasn't fooled. Good luck to her.
She's playing the Devil's Advocate - and it works even misconstrued
We're not feeling hurt and angry. We're upset that you're trying to deny that you said what you said. Personally, I barely remember your music and hasn't thought about you in a decade or so. I thought you were mildly talented way back when, but so were a lot of people we don't hear about any more. The thing is, they haven't said h@teful, big@ted things in the name of J.C. and then later lied about what their "true" intent was. You have. We not angry, we're just tired of the bu!!shit.
"If you want to make it simple for the audience" is like saying she's not homophobic BUT...! I've loved her music but her persona is weird. Not to mention she now charges $250 for one of her CD's. I thought it was a misprint when I first went to her page.
as a christian i always liked SHOCKED without knowing she's a christian-- it's no surprise that she gets the miff for speaking out, which is not a typical thing for other professed christians these days - celebrity or otherwise
I think homophobia is real but I think xenophobia might be more prevalent. But let's not waste time with that, we have smaller fish to fry.
I'm partial to funny stuff. That's a kind of prejudice. I really don't dig the gay-bashing and gay-baiting I'm seeing here, and my empathy lies with anyone trying to conduct civilized discourse in such a degrading environment
How self-obsessed does one have to be to react to her comments by demanding your money back?
I hate the word Homophobia
It's a phobia
You are scared
You're just a child of God
I know you are , but what am I ? I am rubber and you are glue , whatever you say about me bounces off and sticks to you HA HA HA HA !
@Robert Thank you, you're one of the more intelligent people offering commentary in here =)
Considering that Piers nowadays is called Transphobic and often clashes with members of the LGBT, I wish he would reinterview Michelle and allow her a voice again 11 years later.
Promise? What about the torrents? The bootlegs? The file sharing? Do you promise to boycott it all? The RUclips videos? The Amazon used CDs? The Pandora streams? The Spotify playlists? Please, please, please tell me you're not buying any of it. Gratefully~ Michelle
😂😂😂
I think anger and hatred are signs of fear but I don't think fear is exclusive to homophobia. I think fear has a pretty broad range of breeding grounds these days.
All I am trying to do and no matter where I go I can't find it!! "When I grow up I want to be an old woman" Can someone send me a link please?
Me also I love this song 🐝✨🥰
She is so liberal and outspoken. Dont forget they alter everything in the news.
Anchorage, etc short sharp shocked Wow, several really good songs Graffiti Jungle.?? Limbo Outstanding Captain Swing ? Lovely good music and it's been about 25 years since I listened to her, properly, full tape, saw her at the Barrowland Glasgow '86,87? Good Listening.
Great listening, indeed. Several of her albums are exceptional (with a couple of disappointing ones, admittedly). 'Captain Swing' ought to be near the top of any "Best Albums" list. As with a few of my other musical idols, most have said and done things I don't associate with, but I still enjoy their music in the seperate-the-art-from-the-artist sort of way. I've twice had the good fortune to have a private chat with Michelle during two of her tours to South Africa (roughly a decade ago) and I have very pleasant recollections of that, even getting a hug too. Though that certainly doesn't mean that I don't realise that she too has feet of clay, just like each one of us.
@@JacoWium Saw Michelle at Glasgow's Barrowland, Good live.
@@JacoWium Texas campfire tapes... Fogtown, is beyond lovely music song.
@@scottlochans4180 Those will always remain among my favourite albums of all time. Sublime stuff. 'Arkansas Traveller', 'Threesome'...They're all quality. Lucky you to have seen her in the 1980s already! My first time was only in 1995, in London at the Fleadh Festival. Been at 3 of her concerts, and they were all special, but I sure wish I could have been at THAT campfire too!
@@JacoWium Making the run to Gladewater, was an outstanding song. Not on RUclips, lost Short Sharp Shocked, ? About 25 yrs.ago.
Seriously CNN? Allowing a 1:30 comercial play before your video? COME ONE! We use the internet to AVOID commercials.
It was hard for her to say she is not homophobic...
Why stop there? People can be really unkind.
where can we see the whole interview
2. Gay people do not have "rights and protections under the law as anyone else." In many states we can be fired or denied housing for being gay. No right to marry means gay couples don't quality for some 1,200+ federal tax benefits that straight couples do.
3. Marriage is always being redefined. Long ago, polygamy was the rule. Then it became a contract that dealt with money, land and title. Women were mere chattel. Gays don't seek to redefine marriage. We want equality.
It's pretty simple.
Closet case, for sure.
You are feeling hurt and angry, aren't you. Can we be friends...somehow...against all odds?
Exactly. And don't be ashamed of the Gospel. But I also believe that if there are Christians out there with true unconditional love in their hearts who support LGBT equality, I would ask that they be kind & rational enough to ask other Christians not to make a huge deal out of it. A lot of Christians & gays hate each other. That doesn't need to happen, and laws need not be made on marriage between 2 consenting adults. The US isn't a theocracy, but some people unfortunately seem to think it is.
What a jumble of non-committed nonsense. Ask me if I’m homophobic and I’ll answer by saying “no, I’m not,” for the excellent reason that I’m not.
What the heck does she think, girl friend you're giving a concert, in public, and you make a statement like that....Its like saying "well lets keep this between you and me.", Now you're back tracking trying to save your ass. Let go of the hate, your self hating, and the hating of others....and things will be cool.
I know Michelle Shocked. She is NOT homophobic.
You "Claim" to know her? Two things: (1): in what capacity as a casual fan and (2): if more than a fan "where's the proof" to what you say?
Rod Madison does NOT "know" Karen Michelle "Shocked" Johnson any more than I call up President Obama for a dinner date every week at Rat Burgers.... Um..... Sorry I meant White Castle. Hehe haha Hoho!!!!!
Rod Madison sounds like a TROLL name take off on the character Oscar Madison from the Odd Couple television program and believe you me Rod sounds like an ODDBALL himself like his idol Michelle Shocked. #NoLaughRiotHere #Regrets
I have met her,exchanged mail with her, talked to her on phone, etc. I know her.
+Rod Madison Ok if that is "true" and I'm very skeptical pal, would you come clean and reveal your REAL NAME? Please allow me to EM you because I also met her albeit in less than ideal manner. I'm pretty sure she is poised for a complete mental breakdown if she continues down this warped path in such a headstrong manner.
+Rod Madison Michelle Shocked specifically and repeatedly told her erstwhile "Knight-In-Shining-Armour" Mr. Kissa himself that she doesn't have a phone because she claimed Google "stole" her IP. Chris Willman, yes that Willman the Slimy, Discredited Journalist who DESTROYED Karen Michelle "Shocked" Johnston's career according to 'Chelle(bad nose job) can vouch for this fact along with his partners in crime Lorraine Latta, the disgraced former Warner Brothers employee from LA who was fired for allegedly stealing company data, and Kevin Marousek the Orange County Toys are Us factotum who has at least 50 Twitter sock puppet accounts including @percentuno and @ipadgoober and used to call himself @annainyourpants when he Terrorized 'Chelle dog and her erstwhile ally Mr. Kisa.
Wish I can still hear "Anchorage". That's a shame😢.
And she claims all her previously released music on Mercury records are bootleg, original CD , Mercury pulled out, look it up. “She made too good of a deal for herself”
Why do these people never answer questions?? She’s being more deflective than Batman’s Teflon body armour!
A simple yes or no would suffice, isn't it?
If you ask me a question, I would just be straight up. It's not complicated.
I don't fear Christianity. I'm gay & the son of a Baptist pastor who accepts me as I am. What I fear is that my dad will one day be one of the few sane & rational Christians left on the entire planet because of the bigotry and hatred of those who refuse to understand & who would rather see me dead than in heaven. I don't fear Christianity, I fear it's followers, because most in this age are the most blatantly psychotic, judgmental, un-Christ-like people I've ever seen. They need a wake up call.
And as Shocked waves goodbye to whatever career she had left, other homophobic celebrities are reminded they have to keep their bigoted views to themselves.
I'm reminded of that scene in "Best Little Whorehouse": "Ooh, I love to dance a little sidestep............"
Tapped. Let's pause on that note. Left nostril was disfigured by skin cancer. My bad.
Michelle and I used to live in the same hood. Her loft is in the Biscuit Company Lofts in Downtown Los Angeles. Michelle, did you walk to the L.A. Mission for your recent concert? Be careful on those Skid Row streets!
Why are you so angry? I didn't write the Bible. As for unconditional love. Not sure where you go tthat from. My Bible says Adam and Eve were cast out of the garden for disobedience. That proves God is a God of order. If you step out of His will, He will do as He promised. Thing is, He loves you enough to still send as much love as He can in the hopes you will see His plan for you. In any event, know this., I am one Christian that will be praying for you with as much love as I an muster.
No one you need to be concerned with. Just keep moving, folks. Nothing to see here.
Don't feel too much, it will be too painful.
1. Much of what you say is factually inaccurate. Lawrence v. Texas was decided in 2003, not "almost 200 years ago." The "sodomite" laws pertained to straights and gays alike.
Re: "loving Christians," you're not one. Real Christians love and accept people. They don't use profane language, nor do they condemn those they don't care for using cherry-picked passage from the bible, ignoring the inconvenient bits that pertain to them. Unless you support Lev 20:9-10, you're just a hypocrite.
It is important to actually make sense , and to stick with facts . If someone calls themselves a christian and molests children they are not a christian , they are a pervert . I never advocated anyone molesting chidren . Be careful stretching things out like that , you are beginning to look like you don't care what you say .
She is " very in love " with a mythology. The stories surrounding Jesus are a mythological creation. Christians never bother to question or investigate how their belief system was created. Live your life in truth not fiction.
I don't know who she is, but all the gays are posting death threats and seem to hate her with a burning passion for some reason??