I know this is an older video, but part of me seriously wonders why 2174 was Scrapped but 2156 was saved instead? For those that don't know, it's the last survivor of the Y6 class, an Y6a that was modified to basically be a B, not long before being donated to the National Museum of Transportation in STL-MO. Was there something else going on with the 2174 engine that required it's scrapping? I just kind of get the vibe something else was going on with that whole situation. Also I used to live less than 10 minutes from that museum and would frequently visit. That said 2156 is my personal favorite there, they also have a Big Boy not too far from it and you can really see that the Y's were built for power while the BB's were built for speed.
Yeah, they should never have scrapped 2174. However I heard the Pennsylvania Railroad T1 Trust is building a new T1 Steam Locomotive from scratch goes by the number 5550 and they said it will be completed by 2030 which is a good sign.
Yeah, this was one of the most preservation deserved lost steam engines in history. I hope a new build project for a Y6b comes to fill as much of the gap 2174 left as they can.
The auxiliary tenders alone were beautiful with the NORFOLK AND WESTERN gold lettering on the sides and the semi large round rear light and one was used in this excursion. A true A+++++.
@@Thomasthestreamliner I have absolutely no idea but I think there should be a video about a anniversary of its scrapping but at the end of the video he says that there’s a trust organization that wants to build 2174
Norfolk & Western Y6B No. 2174 could’ve been in operation to this day with N&W 611. While Norfolk & Western class A No. 1240 could’ve been displayed at the Illinois Railway Museum in Union, Illinois.
On October 24, 1959 before the last excursion ran, I went to United Iron and Metal to see what was being scrapped. There was the 1240 in her shiny new paint. All cut up. "These museums exsist not because of, but in spite of the average fan." commented Harold Edmundson in an opinion piece in a Trains "Turntable" opinion page piece called "Now Who will save the diesels?".
Sad to think that 2174 was almost saved at one point. Imagine what could've been if she had been rescued from the scrap yard. Perhaps she would've been restored to steam, or even just put on display at the VMT?
And where would you run that, if ever built? For that sum of money you could build a shop and purchase all significant N&W artifacts, if its railfan hating board would go along with it and get off at their social climbing arses.
Where is 2174 now she was scrapped is she still in roanoke i wished she could be at the museum with 1218 A 2156 Y 611 J 1151 M 2174 YB and train 34 they have there too Long Live the Steam Trains thank you for this 🚂
O Winston Link pleaded with N&W to save one Y6b for posterity, but capitalism won that fight. Strange that several Big Boys were saved but not the greatest unsung hero of locomotive steam traction, the Y6b....
I get sick of this stuff about how the ROANOKE CHAPTER tried to save the 2174. I was a chapter member 1971-1977 and I never heard any discussion of an attempt to save her. Before one of the chapter meetings started ( Feb.1972, I think ), I saw Joe Austin and Carl Jensen members of the clique that ran the chapter standing there talking. I approached them and commented something like " Excuse me. I would like to point out that that Y-6 is in that scrapyard to be scapped. One if these days it could be gone." They both ignored me and had nothing to say about my comment. Its April, 1976. In the Roanoke Times there was a picture of the 2174 with the top of its boiler being removed.The photo's caption read "End of the line." I was furious. I immediately called the Southern Steam Program shop in Irondale AL and contacted Steve Wickersham, then the 2101's Chief Mechanical Officer. I told him "Theres an N&W Y-6 being cut up in Roanoke right now. It has the same type of feedwater heater and stoker that your engine has. Do you want me to try to get you any parts off of it.?" "Yeah, get me the distributing table." he replied. When I got there, the engine was in pieces and the distributing table had been cut up. At the time that she was cut up the Roanoke Chapter had around $15,000 in cash.The powers in charge could have gotten a long term lease on the 2174 with rights to restore and operate the engine. I think I the 611 has the same type and size stoker and feedwater heater also. Its feedwater heater perhaps could have been used to replace the 611's that Roanoke Chapter members did $30,000 worth of freeze damage to when they played " hydrostatic test" on it and refused to winterize the engine. Then came the bitter winter of 1977-78. After the dedication ceremony when the 611 came back to Roanoke in 1982, I was talking to someone who had just moved to the Roanoke area. I asked him if he was going to join the Roanoke NRHS. "Hell no! I was down there in Birmingham. They did $30,000 worth of freeze damage to it."
Norfolk Southern does allow steam on their lines, it’s just they don’t do excursions anymore. Most steam movements on NS currently are ferry moves to get the steamers from one place to another, and those moves are usually led by a diesel because of PTC requirements and the fact that most mainline steamers don’t have PTC systems yet, at least as of the typing of this comment.
I cant believe this video got 10K views
I know this is an older video, but part of me seriously wonders why 2174 was Scrapped but 2156 was saved instead? For those that don't know, it's the last survivor of the Y6 class, an Y6a that was modified to basically be a B, not long before being donated to the National Museum of Transportation in STL-MO.
Was there something else going on with the 2174 engine that required it's scrapping? I just kind of get the vibe something else was going on with that whole situation.
Also I used to live less than 10 minutes from that museum and would frequently visit. That said 2156 is my personal favorite there, they also have a Big Boy not too far from it and you can really see that the Y's were built for power while the BB's were built for speed.
It deserved ever last one of those views. Also, I know this is mostly towards 2174, but I also wish 1240 was preserved too.
This is amazing to see 2174 run back then it was very saddening when it was scrapped I wish it made it out.
Yeah, they should never have scrapped 2174. However I heard the Pennsylvania Railroad T1 Trust is building a new T1 Steam Locomotive from scratch goes by the number 5550 and they said it will be completed by 2030 which is a good sign.
@@brianfalzon6739 They also say that 5550 could be done sooner depending on funds.
If they had the money, then it would still be around today. It is a shame.
Yeah, this was one of the most preservation deserved lost steam engines in history. I hope a new build project for a Y6b comes to fill as much of the gap 2174 left as they can.
My Dad was the fireman on 2174. I cannot begin to say how much this means. Thank you--thank you, for sharing.
The auxiliary tenders alone were beautiful with the NORFOLK AND WESTERN gold lettering on the sides and the semi large round rear light and one was used in this excursion. A true A+++++.
Rip 2174 😢😢 you will be remembered
There is now a trust organization that plans to build a replica of 2174. So not all is lost for 2174.
@@Henrythe775 wait what?!!! When did this get planned?
@@Thomasthestreamliner I have absolutely no idea but I think there should be a video about a anniversary of its scrapping but at the end of the video he says that there’s a trust organization that wants to build 2174
@@Henrythe775 I'll have to look to see the video
Congratulations for the b class, you have finally revived a y6b
This scene was so beautiful! I've seen photos, but I never saw any footage til now.
Norfolk & Western Y6B No. 2174 could’ve been in operation to this day with N&W 611. While Norfolk & Western class A No. 1240 could’ve been displayed at the Illinois Railway Museum in Union, Illinois.
On October 24, 1959 before the last excursion ran, I went to United Iron and Metal to see what was being scrapped. There was the 1240 in her shiny new paint. All cut up. "These museums exsist not because of, but in spite of the average fan." commented Harold Edmundson in an opinion piece in a Trains "Turntable" opinion page piece called "Now Who will save the diesels?".
While it’s a shame 2174 was scrapped, a distant relative of 2174 still remains and that’s a Y6A, which is 2156.
Sad to think that 2174 was almost saved at one point. Imagine what could've been if she had been rescued from the scrap yard. Perhaps she would've been restored to steam, or even just put on display at the VMT?
Ain't they just poetry in motion? Cheers Mate.
If i had a timemachine, i would save engines like:
GTW 5629
CB&Q 5632
N&W 2174 and 2143
CB&Q 6315
ICRR 2613
B&O 7600 and 7609
And more
It's hard to believe 2174 lasted until 1976. Almost made it out...
I heard there are plans to build a N&W 2174 trust in the near future just like what there doing with 5550
And where would you run that, if ever built? For that sum of money you could build a shop and purchase all significant N&W artifacts, if its railfan hating board would go along with it and get off at their social climbing arses.
I can’t believe you actually found the footage!
The footage I found that is from Greg Scholl's N&W in transition
@@csxguy3002 o wow that’s amazing I actually have an N&W locomotive
@@bdvids7930 What kind of LOCO did you have?
@@csxguy3002 the Norfolk And Western Zb1 Number 1429
Such a shame to survive only to be wasted a true beast
It's a shame 2174 wasn't saved from scrap
At least 2174’s legacy isn’t gone as its relative, Y6A 2156, is on display at the National Museum of Transportation in St. Louis, Missouri.
Oh don't worry, he won't be on display for long
@@infaredxkingz8786 what makes you think that?
#1240 powers the Farewell to Steam Excursion and also #2174
It's sad that #2174 was scrapped
Yeah.
Where is 2174 now she was scrapped is she still in roanoke i wished she could be at the museum with 1218 A 2156 Y 611 J 1151 M 2174 YB and train 34 they have there too Long Live the Steam Trains thank you for this 🚂
A shame both are gone, but we do have 1218 aka the only surviving 2-6-6-4 engine in the universe and the other y class mallets.
O Winston Link pleaded with N&W to save one Y6b for posterity, but capitalism won that fight. Strange that several Big Boys were saved but not the greatest unsung hero of locomotive steam traction, the Y6b....
Why couldn’t they doublehead?
I get sick of this stuff about how the ROANOKE CHAPTER tried to save the 2174. I was a chapter member 1971-1977 and I never heard any discussion of an attempt to save her. Before one of the chapter meetings started ( Feb.1972, I think ), I saw Joe Austin and Carl Jensen members of the clique that ran the chapter standing there talking. I approached them and commented something like " Excuse me. I would like to point out that that Y-6 is in that scrapyard to be scapped. One if these days it could be gone." They both ignored me and had nothing to say about my comment. Its April, 1976. In the Roanoke Times there was a picture of the 2174 with the top of its boiler being removed.The photo's caption read "End of the line." I was furious. I immediately called the Southern Steam Program shop in Irondale AL and contacted Steve Wickersham, then the 2101's Chief Mechanical Officer. I told him "Theres an N&W Y-6 being cut up in Roanoke right now. It has the same type of feedwater heater and stoker that your engine has. Do you want me to try to get you any parts off of it.?" "Yeah, get me the distributing table." he replied. When I got there, the engine was in pieces and the distributing table had been cut up. At the time that she was cut up the Roanoke Chapter had around $15,000 in cash.The powers in charge could have gotten a long term lease on the 2174 with rights to restore and operate the engine. I think I the 611 has the same type and size stoker and feedwater heater also. Its feedwater heater perhaps could have been used to replace the 611's that Roanoke Chapter members did $30,000 worth of freeze damage to when they played " hydrostatic test" on it and refused to winterize the engine. Then came the bitter winter of 1977-78. After the dedication ceremony when the 611 came back to Roanoke in 1982, I was talking to someone who had just moved to the Roanoke area. I asked him if he was going to join the Roanoke NRHS. "Hell no! I was down there in Birmingham. They did $30,000 worth of freeze damage to it."
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Whats with the sad face emoji?
The engines were scrapped
At least we have 1218 even though 1240 held the excursion & 2156 is a somewhat smilar Y6a
Yeah 👍
I've seen footage of your brothers and sisters in action and I must say they were fine locomotives
What tape is this from
Link is in the description.
Gregg Scholl Productions
The video is called Norfolk and Western in Transition
NORFOLK SOUTHERN will not allow steam locomotives on the main line anymore
Norfolk Southern does allow steam on their lines, it’s just they don’t do excursions anymore. Most steam movements on NS currently are ferry moves to get the steamers from one place to another, and those moves are usually led by a diesel because of PTC requirements and the fact that most mainline steamers don’t have PTC systems yet, at least as of the typing of this comment.