Alec Baldwin's Rust manslaughter trial dismissed over alleged hidden evidence | BBC News
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- Опубликовано: 11 окт 2024
- Alec Baldwin broke down in tears as a judge dismissed the involuntary manslaughter case against him for a fatal shooting on the set of the film Rust.
The trial collapsed three days into Baldwin's trial in Santa Fe, at a court just miles from where cinematographer Halyna Hutchins was shot with a revolver that Mr Baldwin was using in rehearsals.
It is the second time the case against the actor has been dismissed since the October 2021 shooting. He will not be tried again.
His lawyers alleged police and prosecutors hid evidence - a batch of bullets - that could have been connected to the shooting.
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I never understood how he was responsible for this. Actors are supposed to use weapons on set which includes pointing it at the camera.
Really have you worked on a movie set?
because hes a loser. any questions?
He was not just the actor.
Yea there are some ignorant people out there!
Not really, he was bank rolling the film to which he went with the cheapest armour there is. After a scene he seen shouting quick quick re arm me so we can go again. He was as much to blame as anybody
There is no reason for live amunition to be on set. There is no reason why the gun would have live amunition loaded on set. There is no expectation for live amunition being on set.
@@DDSizeBra there are no acceptable explinations for why live ammo would be on a film set. The sound of the gun and the flash are added in post. It's 2024
@@DDSizeBrathey usually add special sound effects to a movie. It’s not a big deal.
@@SerPodrick VFX is expensive. Real guns and ammo are cheap in the USA.
@@JewTube001VFX for something as simple as a gun I would have thought would be easy and cheap for Hollywood. It's not Avatar
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Avatar was %100 CGI from floor to ceiling where this Rust is only adding in the sound and animation effect of the bullet shooting out and won't make the film look like a cyberpunk video game like Marvel crap.
Whoever brought live rounds on to the film set is responsible, whoever didn't secure the live rounds if they were even needed during filming for whatever reason is responsible.
It is not the job of an actor to know a live round could be inside a prop gun when he was rehearsing, a shocking accident from his part for which I am sure he will feel guilt for the rest of his life, but it clearly was not his fault.
Well said. I couldn't agree with you more.
Agree.
My belief is that this was a terrible tragedy that should never have occured, and ultimately, he should maybe not be criminally charged, but does bear some civil responsibility. However, there is clear evidence that would've been shown in this trial, and was shown in the HGR trial, that Baldwin was careless with his handling of guns, there were many instances of poor handling and management of dummy rounds, live rounds (which they knew were live) and other mismanagement from the production side of things.
Alec Baldwin asserts in many interviews that he NEVER ever had his finger on the trigger of any gun on set. that he would NEVER put his finger on the trigger and point the gun at anybody. And yet, there is clear pictures of his finger wrapped around the trigger of guns multiple times outside of needing to during the filming of a scene.
Also, the Screen Actors Guild (SAG) of which Alec is a member, has clear guidelines on the handling of guns from an actor's point of view which state that an actor must also take due diligence to ensure any gun they are handling is safe. There are multiple testimonies from people on set that Baldwin didn't do any checks, as well as the fact that HGR and other responsible production team members also didn't do proper checks in many instances.
The case was poorly investigated and poorly prosecuted.
The Police and prosecution also never looked into Seth Kenny's involvement and granted him immunity. They simply weren't interested in anything but nailing Baldwin
@@almac9203 - I agree. He sure made himself "helpful" didn't he? The females were easily led down the path he wanted them to follow.
Worse than poorly prosecuted. The prosecutorial misconduct in the case is staggering. The hiding of evidence from the defense was just the worst of it, but it was party of a pattern of misconduct surrounding the discovery process.
Indeed, if one credits the special prosecutor that she was unaware of the coverup, one could accuse her of “criminal negligence”, the same charge Baldwin was facing. 😂
Totally ridiculous that he was charged in the first place! How many thousands of times have actors shot a PROP gun relying on the armorer to provide a gun with blanks. This should have NEVER happened and he should sue those involved with this stupidity.
The fact that he was a producer on the film and the producers clearly hired cheap amateurs instead of well paid professionals to handle the guns is the real issue. I don’t understand why that wasn’t brought up in the trial.
@@Orchidaceous1exactly
This was the THIRD incidence of accidental discharge on the Rust set. Something like 6 camera crew quit 'due to safety concerns' within a week of this final shooting. But their concerns were dismissed, they were replaced and the show went on. Baldwin probably was negligent. However, the prosecutor still needed to follow the law. I saw a video of Baldwin's attorneys going through a number of violations by the prosecution a few months ago. I was surprised it wasn't dismissed back then.
He got given the gun loaded and checked and he was to act on set and do his part. I don’t think he should be liable.
They tried framing him.
The importance of not only being rich, but also well connected.
Prosecutor was a manipulative liar.
Yeah withholding such crucial evidence was a big mistake.
Oh stop the bs lady you withheld evidence that's a violation of Alec Baldwin rights.
Lead prosecutor should be in jail.
Or at least seriously investigated for miscarriage of investigation
Merry Christmas Mr. Potter. And Happy New Year to you.......... IN JAIL!
Wait... An elderly man stayed awake for his trial..? Whattt 😂
It only lasted a two and a half days
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Oh.. like that matters🤪
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Poor Harry 🤣
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Said same thing .. twice.
Anyway... if old sleepy Joe is so easy to beat, why so much talk about him quitting? 😏 Why not just enjoy that dream landslide victory...??
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How could the prosecution dismiss the box of ammunition ??? Isn't it an integral part of the set's evidence?? LIKE WHAT??
Prosecutors are EVIL. They had tried to attach other charges to this case which would have added 5 years to the sentence. Prosecutors' EVIL job is to convict and do as much damage to their victim, aka the defendant, as they can. .
Both sides will try to omit or lie about things, I guess the hope is that it balances out and we get the truth in the end.
@@JewTube001 No, an eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind. This is why there are rules about what they can and can't do. The defense is expected to provide the prosecution a list of witnesses so they can try to find a way to undermine their credibility, and the defense is expected to provide all evidence in case it's exculpatory. Moreover, it's not equal and opposite, so it DOESN'T balance out.
Much like the Trump trail. Cuomo said it would never have gone to trail if it wasn’t Trump.
@@I.____.....__...__ All is fair in love and war. Legal battles are included I guess.
When someone suppresses evidence, then, it's about revenge not the justice. Exculpatory...means absolve or excuse of guilt. Am sure Mr. Baldwin will always feel such sorrow over the sad unintentional accident. Terrible pain for all families. Love one another people.
What revenge and directed at who?
Can you spell B-R-I-B-E?
@@joewoodchuck3824 there was no need for a bribe when faced with the sheer stupid incompetence of the prosecutor and the police. and that prosecutor also showed deep and open bias toward the defendant. she wasn't professional and she blew the case and she's very likely ruined her career. no one who watched that trial thinks Baldwin bought his way out of it.
1:33 _the prosecution suppressing evidence_ is one of the main flaws in the US criminal justice system. to have a system where public prosecutors can even entertain, let alone act on such thoughts, is subverting trust in the whole system.
I don't understand. There is a big difference between voluntarily suppress evidence and deciding that it wasn't evidence. Can't a prosecutor do that? Judges dismiss so-called "evidence" all the time. Besides this happened when the Guttierez trial. She should be the one being dismissed...
@@optimumposify what is the job of a public prosecutor? is it to accumulate convictions like trophies? or is it to put the bad guys out of service and let those go when there is lack of evidence, contradicting evidence or exonerating evidence?
if there is evidence suggesting the accused didn't do it or it would most likely lead to other avenues, other suspects or opens up the case to new investigation etc; what does a public prosecutor do with such evidence? if there is any incentive to suppress that evidence, then the system is failing the public. it must be in the public prosecutors interest to either produce such evidence voluntarily (or by design when the counsel for the defendant looks at the files of the prosecution) or to make them close the case as this evidence exonerates the accused.
the US lacks such rules. it makes many prosecutors resort to unethical steps. pair that with the possibility of the DA seeking [re-]election and you have the perfect recipe for corruption of the justice system.
@@optimumposify what kind of criminal justice system do you get when you allow prosecutors to 'voluntarily' suppress evidence which indicates an accused didn't do it and might get exonerated? this suppressed evidence would usually remain unknown to the court, to the judge, jury, the defendant and their counsel. can you see the most likely outcome and what it means for society?
Judges can decide what evidence is allowable. A prosecutor cannot decide on behalf of the defense what evidence is relevant. That’s the first basic principle that was violated. But the kicker is that the investigators working for the special prosecutor took action to hide the evidence.
I’m not an expert but an educated layman. It seems to me that the investigators, including the crime scene technician, have opened themselves up to criminal charges of obstruction of justice and conspiracy to commit obstruction.
I never understood how Alec Baldwin could be held responsible for this, but somebody should be held responsible, and shouldn't that be the armorer ? A movie set is an organization run by the director so wouldn't the director be more responsible than Alec Baldwin or any actor ?
Because the gun was in his hand and basic gun safety is to check any game handed to you to see if it’s loaded.
The armorer I believe was already sent to jail.
He was also exec producer, and there was a dangerous environment on set but yeah the prosecution case based on him being an actor was dumb
A.I. don't need lawyer for nothing.
Not responsible? He broke two of the most important firearm handling safety rules.
A. Never point a gun at anything you don't intend to shoot.
B. Finger off the trigger unless you intend to shoot.
He did intentionally aim the gun, and he did intentionally pull the trigger. The gun didn't fire by itself. FBI tested the gun and declared it correctly functional. So don't whine some feeble excuse about a faulty gun either.
This was always a civil matter. What a waste of time and money.
How do real ammunations get to sets all over the world ?
The armorer did not do her job. She is responsible for the securing the set and making sure that there is no live ammunition. However, in the case the Judge cited gross prosecutorial misconduct on the part of the investigators, prosecutors, and the DA itself.
Maga planted those live rounds.Cuoy Griffins Cowboys for Trump planted those live rounds.
sabotage in this case
The USA isn't "all over the world". In most countries, real weapons are for obvious reason not allowed on a film set, as they are _real_ weapons. The US has an insanely toxic weapons lobby called the NRA, responsible for buying and bullying legislators into bastardised readings of their constitution. They cut out all unwanted words of the second amendment and then use those out of context words to force deadly weapons into every crevasse of society, including workplaces where fiction is created.
@@marctemura2017 WRONG. This evidence proves Kenney, who supplied the blank ammo, was negligent in mixing live rounds in with blanks. He brought them to set.
Crazy how they blamed him for it.
Why put an actor on trial, its supposed to be the director ant set management. Life is not fair
He was also the director
@@blist14ant Director was Joel Souza. Baldwin might have been an executive producer in a hands off role which is very different from directoring or being a line producer.
Yeah he was also exec producer, but the prosecution case was based on him being the actor holding the gun. So yeah it was stupid and never going to convince a jury.
his acting career was over anyway regardless of the outcome
Kari Morrissey fucked the trial up big time for sure. 😂 she called herself as a witness to explain her actions to the jury
I agree, except the jury wasn't present during that motion hearing.
@@greenbeagle13yup, the jury wasn’t present.
I’ll be honest, when I heard that she testified at the hearing, I was hoping she’d jump to her feet to ask questions and sit back down to answer them, culminating in her yelling at herself, “You can’t handle the truth!”
The Prosecution's ineptitude was unbelievably misdirected. Who brought the live ammo to the set??? They forgot about that inquiry.
The dumbest case ever, why are people so hellbent to see him punished still?
No people but the state of CA. Or the state where it happened
He did a lot of SNL stuff making fun of trump, so right wing people in America hate him.
I doubted he wouldn’t get off on this one. As an actor they just hand you props. How was he to know they had live rounds?
@@JewTube001 my God I’ve only just noticed it’s the same guy 😂😂 thanks for the explanation because it always seemed the sole responsibility of the guy giving him “props” that are live weapons lmao
@@XXXTENTAClON227 Yup, if he was a B-list actor with no politics then this case would not have even happened. The man who shot Brandon Lee wasn't convicted either and never went to court. Everyone acknowledged it was an accident and not murder, although in this case people have an axe to grind against Baldwin for reasons unrelated to what happened on set.
I Hope The Haters of this Man will leave him in Peace now!
An overzealous and incompetent prosecutor. This should never have been brought to court. Shame
RIP Kari Morrissey's career and reputation as a prosecutor lol
How can you supply, as a prop item, live and dummy bullets? The ammo supplier is at fault as well.
Justice plsssss!
I feel very sorry for the family of the cinematographer, but that man should never have been on trial
But a woman have been killed because all the negligence on set. And now negligence in procecution !
And " negligence" of the actions of both your parents , or one parent and a test tube!
I believe that this movie should have never been made. The actually producers that are running the movie set and making sure everything was say was not doing the job. Believe the real people that sponsored this movie cut to many corners. That why the hired people not qualified to do their jobs.
The prosecution didn't have a case to begin with, so their further mistakes are irrelevant.
poor lady, another victim who has " Gone with the wind". that's life in criminal America. ugly head of the devil. no place for victims. America employs social Darwinism to the bone.
@@FirstLast-hs4gw What are you talking about? The Judge did not declare a "mistrial". The Judge "dismissed case with prejudice" which means the conduct of prosecutors broke the law. This is the most severe penalty that a judge can impose on the persecution for not doing their job.
"I never pulled the trigger". We believe you Billy.
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I don't get why bullets fake or otherwise should even be required in the age of CGI ????
Don't let them trick u this was his sacrifice for the fame he is the only one in his family that still famous and they all in on it judge too
Because CGI sucks
Would expect BBC News to have interviewed an England legal expert on what England court would had decided a cass dismissal with prejudice in this situation
That’s crazy!
Alec's innocent and should never have been on trial in the first place.
The judge didn’t consider the ammunition that wasn’t disclosed as allegedly hidden evidence.
The prosecution habitually withold exculpatory evidence in their zeal for successful prosecution.
It's not alleged...it's fact, and Judge ruled accordingly.
The whole production of Rust was a failure from the start. They cut corners by hiring someone so unprofessional that jumped at the chance. They had another armorer before her that was a professional and warned them about the safety concerns. Alec Baldwin is a producer on Rust, he should've known better!
True internet warrior trying to find fault and blame to make yourself look knowledgeable.
The special prosecutor doesn’t dispute that the evidence was withheld or hidden. Indeed, she claims she didn’t know it was being concealed.
An rich famous anti trump liberal walking away scott free how suprising 😂😂, completely his fault you dont go around waving a gun at people loaded or not its the first rule of gun safety
She tried to hide evidence and convict Alec so judge did right thing
The only reason he cried was because he didn't have to go to jail...not because he killed someone....narcissist
Worst episode of 30 Rock ever
Your not quoting the prosecutor
Incompletely she got evidence from the holder of said evidence late as well.
Armourer should have got more than 18 months
It sounds to me like the prosecutor didn't want that evidence messing with her case. If she cared about justice she would've followed the evidence and went after everyone responsible. She just wanted to preserve her conviction rate
Live round and blank round's look completely different how did Hannah fuk that up
It wasn’t blank round. They were using replica rounds that look like live rounds.
As live rounds are forbidden on set an actor could not tell the difference.
It why they hire an armorer.
@@SemiDad what it's called a blank round what on earth is a replica live round
@@TRSF1RACINGon movie sets they use both dummy rounds and blank rounds and they are very different. You are confusing the two different types of ammo. Blanks can fire but look different whereas dummy rounds look real but cannot fire. The case revolved around mixing a real live bullet with the 99 percent identical looking dummy rounds. It is the armourer and AD that are supposed to check the appropriate ammo is loaded in the gun.
What a joke of a prosecution!
Now he can get back to bashing Trump.
Cowboys for Trump planted those live rounds because Alec mocked Trump on SNL
How can an actor be liable?? The weapons expect is solely responsible for presenting an armed weapon.
expect? You mean expert?
Sad that someone died from a tragic accident like with Brandon Lee can't help but wonder if this case was pushed because of his SNL run
Michael Massey wasn't even charged with Lee's death because of course not. But then, he wasn't as rich and famous as Baldwin is, and he didn't mock Bush in a scathing and hilarious parody, otherwise, North Carolina, where they were filming _The Crow,_ was indeed a red state in 1993, so they likely could/would have tried to get revenge and burn him.
Exactly and Cuoy Griffin with Cowboys for Trump planted those live rounds.
2:05 *Prosecutor: "We did everything humanly possible to bring **-Justice-** **_corruption, disgrace and failure_** to Helena and to her family." (ftfy, you arrogant, self-serving, crook)*
The same evidence was not withheld from the defense in Reed's trial, so she's still screwed. Even your "experts" don't know what they're talking about.
That's what I said. Because he's powerful, he got off with it. He said "I didn't pull the trigger". He's a a lying sack of crud. Anyone else would've been charged.
You don’t have to say alleged.
So will the prosecution be tried for withholding evidence?
BBC…..”alleged”…..do the BBC know more than the judge ?
Should have been dismissed as a mistrial and retried at a later time with new competent prosecutors.
@@dwaynepiper3261 ….and you are a legal expert I take it ?
@@californiadreamin8423 No I am not. If this was the trial of a premeditated murder with witnesses do you think they would walk because of this technicality.
@@dwaynepiper3261 Exactly you’re not an expert yet you pretend to know more than the Judge .
@@californiadreamin8423 Expressing my opinion is not pretending to be anything other than sparking debate about if justice was being served to someone who was killed. For justice to be served all the facts should be heard and a decision made based on those. That is not happening here.
it feels like a Hitman game level, its bizarre. live rounds never suppose to be on set. and no actor should be worried to use a gun on set. this is unbelievable. Baldwin or any actore or production member at that matter should not suffer for this.
They use the wrong scales for justice in the USA
Its hard not to put some blame on the person who pulled the trigger BUT the circumstances are very important here. The circumstances ARE why he isnt responsible. He wasnt shooting for fun or to hurt. He was given a prop weapon which was supposed to be deemed safe by the armor
Excellent news he would of trusted the armourer and probably wouldnt have even thought that a live bullet would be used so why should he be prosecuted
Because he didn't check himself. He was using the gun so the onus was on him. It's similar to the way parachutists pack their own chutes or you get asked at customs if you packed your own bags.
Is she blind?
No justice for Halyna and her family. Pitiful.
My question is, what poor soul is going to get railroaded in the other case? The case with the live ammo evidence from The Baldwin/Rust case? This is bad! Very bad!
No shocker there since Alec is clearly innocent
Surely unjustifiable and corrupt decision by the prosecutor it would seem.
Imagine Tom Cruise while filming Mission Impossible movies - checking everytime if his prop gun contains live rounds on every take or while rehearsing. The Mission Impossible movies may take a decade to shoot or film!
Or introducing a law that requires all actors who are handed prop guns to check if the bullets have live rounds. Sounds very silly. Imagine the director saying in every take: "Hey, we have a law that you cannot rehearse and point guns at the camera. Please check first your guns ALL the time if it contains live rounds".
@@MrQwertypoiuyty how to tell everyone you haven’t ever touched a firearm let can have this debate. It takes less than two seconds to check it. Proving how NONE of you have any idea.
@@Censortubes Laughable reply. Your two seconds or two eye blinks is the time for a quick visual inspection which cannot help in any way. Can you tell if it's live or a fake round by a 2 second eye blink?
@@MrQwertypoiuyty yea child as the judge even did on tv with zero knowledge of ammo. What do windows taste like?
@@Censortubes Again. Laughable reply. The judge was already acquainted with the bullets from long time ago, as it was her duty.
@@MrQwertypoiuyty hahahahahah poor govbot. Thanks for proving you are paid to post. You also just killed your own argument. Tom cruise has more knowledge than her. So he could even faster with more accuracy yes? Another one bites the boot of elites and take the L.
Its not alleged! Its fact!
And he immediately went to Pennsylvania to a rally😂🤣
Obviously, this whole tragic affair has been a nightmare for all involved. The charges against Baldwin have been a horrible miscarriage of justice. He never should have been charged at all.
what a shame for him..................
It must be nice to have the money it takes to afford justice.
Why would live bullets be on site?
Yay! The Judge is exemplary in her discretion and execution of theJudicial law. DA shame on you. They only need to disclose a new piece of evidence. Why didn’t they. They were not executing justice they wanted to win at any cost.
His prayers were answered. 🙏❤️
Sad what Alec Baldwin has gone through for the last three years.
His best movie yet since Miami blues
Brady, Brady, Brady... I bet this trial cost a bundle to put together and the prosecution team blew it.
Did someone set up the Prosecution to intentionally make for a dismissal with prejudice?
They've been trying to dismiss that case for 3 years. They finally succeeded. They found out about the suppressed evidence and that was it. It's not a conspiracy.
@@lpr5269 So the prosecutor just accidentally mis-filed the evidence?
This reminds me a lot of Michael Jackson's case
The prosecutor knew the case was bogus and did this on purpose to save face, its obvious
Should have been dismissed as a mistrial and retried at a later time with new competent prosecutors.
This poor man. Not only has he had to deal with the trauma of accidently killing someone hes had to go through all this 😢
That woman in glasses was being blinded by her ring light lol
2:10 And, my dear, #Justice was brought; if you're going to hide #evidence that #clears the accused, what other out come did you expect??? 🤨😤
True there should NEVER be live ammo on the set.
BUT also...
True Baldwin should NOT have been practicing drawing and firing a gun by pointing it at people. If he had pointed it anywhere there was no living being in the line of fire, then no one would have been killed.
BOTH errors contributed to a tragic and needless death.
The actor did not weep, he was acting. He covered his face, and did some shaking, he left, had a whisky, and planned a vacation.
His reality show comes next, further fueling his sense of perpetual overt narcissism.
He has already paid
Face in cloud. 😮 1min mark
A disappointing outcome, the armourer has already been convicted and sent to prison for 18 months which i think is fair as she is the most accountable, followed by the 1st assistant producer who i think should be found guilty as well and finally I think Alec shouldve been found guilty too eventhough I agree he's the least accountable for the poor cinematographers death but i think he still holds a share of responsibility for the incident as he pulled the trigger when he wasnt supposed to and he was rushing the filming process and not doing basic safety checks with the gun that i think he wouldve done if he was going to use the gun on himself for the scene, i think he shouldve been convicted, given a life long criminal record, a suspended sentence and probation, hopefully this negatively affects his career and i hope he gets sued by the victim's family, RIP Halyna Hutchins.
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I just wonder why the gun was aimed at the cinematographer...................
Maybe because they hold the camera?
Should been a free man always .. he believed in his team and others to make sure things like this are safe and checked .. they let him down and more importantly let the lady who died down
A fiend of mine told me of an incident that ocurred when he was a new recruit at the guards depot about 60 years ago. He and about five other new recruits were being instructed on how to use a rifle and how to take a sight picture, using dummy rounds. Suddenly there was loud bang, and two guardsmen toppled over in opposite directions. It turned out that one had been shot through the head and the other had been thrown back by the unexpected recoil! Apparently a live round had got into the box of dummies. A dummy round looks very different from a live round and different from a blank, so anyone who knew this wouldn't have made the mistake of loading a live round into his rifle, but these were new recruits who had never handled a firearm before.
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We saw this year's ago whir OJ Simpson
The movie production industry brings lots of money to New Mexico.
And? Alec is innocent