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I only noticed one real misplay. MST would of been sent to GY by that one Sylv that has 2K def when it was milled. I do not believe either of you atked the same turn as activating Soul Charge... as that is its only real limit.
This so click baiting just a scam Don't click it Thought was app combined 2 faces make a hypocritical baby It's a game that scams you as need add money to play decent game Cimoo gets paid to promote it
@@kodytiffany5686 Cimo also missed lethal on that turn, he could have popped the star eater with blaster, revived back the newly discarded hermitree and swung for game.
One interesting bit of trivia about this episode. At the time, Patrick Hoban was easily the most influential player in the community, and ppl would look up to see what he deemed the "best deck". He topped a tournament with lighsworn rulers as soon as they were released, ensuring a lot of people started playing that deck. Then he preceeded to enter nationals with Sylvan. He later explains that he knew ppl were going to netdeck him as long as what he was playing was good enough, so he attempted to manipulate the meta by getting everyone into LS rulers, while keepig the "better" Sylvan deck to himself.
That's the danger with focusing too hard on what the pros/meta are playing, it gives them the chance to manipulate the information so everyone else is under prepared. Some could say it's a bit scummy, but honestly people copying the "top decks," almost always verbatim, was a lot more toxic to the longevity of the game 🤔 (though it was more of a problem during this period of time iirc, so maybe people learned from this bait and switch 🤔 .)
That's still a problem to this day. But at least now the sims have gotten better to allow people to experiment without paying a fortune so they can realize what they're actually going to be able to do well with.
And also how long it was released before it started getting used. It came out in Starstrike Blast (same set as Formula Synchron), and it was almost never used until Ruler format
This is the most minor cheat in the series so far, but when Cimo revealed for Sylvan Charity at the beginning of Game 1, he was also supposed to reveal Sagequoia since you reveal both cards. MBT gets almost nothing from that tidbit of extra information, but it’s in the back of my brain so I thought I’d mention it.
In present day HAT format, Sylvan lists look a bit different. The combos are basically the same, but many people have cut down on the floodgates and Kuribandit to increase turn one combo potential. Archfiend’s Oath is pretty much standard in Sylvans now. Although you occasionally have to blindly guess the top card of your deck, it happens a lot less often than you’d think. It’s kind of like extra copies of Upstart Goblin in some situations, but you can also trigger Sylvan effects by intentionally calling the card wrong to get the mill effect. It pairs incredibly well with both Sylvan Charity and Mount Sylvania. The fact that it’s a continuous spell makes it great for follow up plays too. Players have recently been testing builds of Sylvan that run trade-in for even more draw power and Malefic Stardust Dragon as a level 8 extender.
One of the great things about Oath is that it offers a method of outing Vanity's via stacking Shroom/Marsh without having to run MST in main as in other hands its just a good extender.
Could you link me a modern HAT Sylvan list? These techs seem super cool. I've been playing HAT with friends but I've mostly only been able to find lists from when the format was going on.
@@mophead1666 take the sylvan list in the video, replace one kuribandit, one emptiness and the foolish burial with 3 copies of oath. Replace the book of moon with a second forbidden lance/rose archer. If you wanna play the trade in version, take out one forbidden lance/rose archer from the list I just showed you, one Archfiend’s Oath and both Kuribandit so you can fit in 2 copies each of trade in and malefic stardust dragon. Also you should replace the decisive armor in the extra deck for a second stardust dragon. Also this probably goes without saying, but make your own side deck specific to what your locals/friend group is likely to play. Flying C is still busted in sylvans because you can loop it with Orea. I hope this helps. : )
It didn’t really get shown off in this ep, but one of the most insane cards in Sylvans was Fertilizer. Because it is a SOFT once per turn. That means multiple copies mean multiple revives each turn, and Orea can bounce them to your hand to use them AGAIN in the same turn. Truly busted card.
In addition to Fertilizer, also bouncing Sagequoia, you can summon the Sagequoia you just bounced if you excavated a Sylvan for Orea. This and the Fertilizer at the same time of Oreas eff lets you keep making plays. Nutty
Sylvans always held a special place in my heart. I was never really fond of plant decks in general, but, for some reason, I remember trying it once and falling in love with it. Really think it's a shame that it fell off super hard over the years, specially in comparison to its contemporary archetypes, such as Shaddoll and Burning Abyss. The few cards we got over the years for it weren't enough to reignite it as a viable archetype. Also, Cimooo's ad game is absolutely top tier. If I ever had a company looking for someone to sponsor, this man would be one of the first options.
I mean the way MBT talks about Cimo on stream, he should have expected this. Also: for this episode only, I am Team Cimo all the way. I love Sylvans. I haven't watched past the deck profiles yet but I am excited.
Everybody laughs at the card world carrot weight champion but its decent for sylvan you can dump rose lover to summon the champion don't disrespect your veggies!
The first minute or so of this video taught me that THAT is what I want for 30+ minutes. Throw in some RJB and I’m all in. *Throwaway Thursdays*. A throwaway day where you guys just talk Yugioh and your respective communities.
Well I wouldnt say "boy was I wrong" as some floodgates did shine as the time went by so they were worse in certain der formats, and they switched they usefulness pretty heavily depending on the firmat. So you were kinda right, certain formats were less susceptible to floodgates
Dang…I was super excited to see MBT’s turn at 20:46 to see if he could out Cimo’s board. And then 20:54 happens and ruins all the fun 😂 I think I speak for everyone when I say that we can’t wait for Vanity’s to get banned. Like seriously
Being a Felgrand enjoyer and watching Game 3 made me sad. Felgrand can negate monsters too. I personally love Sylvans as a deck: it has one of the only Brainstorms in all of Yugioh and its sad that this deck really only exists for exactly one format. One of the coolest combo decks in all of ygo's history.
@@AlphaSquadZero This might surprise you but Felgrand can negate monsters on both sides of the field. Against Lightsworn, who can pretty easily beat over Felgrand and have to, using Felgrand to negate cards like Raiden or Kuribandit is really powerful.
I remember a couple funny tidbits about both of these decks and they both involve Patrick Hoban: -Hoban was initially on Sylvan during this stage of the format but pivoted to LS Ruler, a seemingly worse deck before jumping back to Sylvan for nats. Why? Because he knew that if he piloted LS Ruler and word got out people would buy into the hype of the deck, play it at Nats and he'd be able to pick up easier wins on them with his superior Sylvan deck. This was one of the first instances where Hoban would use how the playerbase acts to his advantage (the most infamous one of these being Djinngate). -One of my friends was at Nationals and was passing by one of the tables that happened to have Hoban at them and the man was on tilt or something. I think time was coming up? All I know is that he distinctly remembered Hoban yelling, "It takes more than a minute to resolve Sylvan Charity!" and it's become a meme in our friend group since.
I feel like one deck that history missed was the brief period where soul charge skyrocketed Infernity to tier one contention. The deck; combined with lavalval chain and soul charge was a notable player with crazy turn 1’s. Not sure if they opted not to explore it but I recall that deck was crazy especially on the arg circuit
There's a reason why the format is named after a grindy control deck and not either of the sacky explosive combo decks they played for this episode. Vanity's is unironically not that problematic when you're summoning a couple of monsters per turn at most and trading with backrow every turn. It's like when MBT went out of his way to run Scythe when he played HAT and lost to Cimo's Geargia deck because Scythe does nothing against grindy control strategies.
MBT hand in game 3 is why some people ran Hand Destruction. Wyvern and rulers are really bad in hand so a card to fix that is really nice. As I liked to tell myself "going minus one doesn't matter if you win next turn."
Ahh, Sylvans. I remember wanting to build this deck as soon as I saw it. It was such a fun but competitive deck. Felgrand and miracle fertilizer really gave this deck its power! Sucks they couldn't show off Alsei but I remember my opponent's face when I call blue eyes just so I could get the mill so I could spin their cards!
Lightsworn Rulers will always have a special place in my heart. In 2014, as a high school student who didn’t have a ton of money to spend, the main deck of LS Ruler was very affordable and did great at a local/regional level. Lightsworn Structure, Eclipse Wyvern came in a structure. Rulers were all rares I just had from pulling LTGY. And Soul Charge was a super in Dragons of Legend. Good times.
The lightsworn starter deck was my second deck ever. (Still have it too) This is the time I really started getting into yugioh more heavily. Had a small collection back then, now it’s outrageous.
Aside of Rulers which should almost never have been printed. Sylvans might be the most pushed archetype in the game so far historically. Charity literally reads like a custom card. If Duelist Alliance wasn't so significantly good Sylvan Chairty or just more plant stuff would've gotten hit.
Ah, Sylvans. I remember playing a Sylvan deck that used Amaryllis and Circle of the Fire Kings to cycle into Hermitree and draw crazy advantage. Reasoning was also a ridiculous card in Sylvans. Here’s hoping they make another appearance! :)
sylvans were definitely not the best deck in the format, they just had the highest ceiling. They could be really bricky and through the course of an entire tournament they didnt tend to stick which is why HAT ended up winning the WCQ, where people were more scared of Geargia and Lightsworns/Rulers
Ah Lightsworn Ruler. My best memory of it is playing my Fabled deck against it. Round 1 I used Unicore to negate Tidal, Eclipse and Tempest in one go, locking a card out of the game for good. It traumatized my opponent so badly that in round 2, they summoned Judgment Dragon while I again had Unicore, but instead of risking me activating a card to change my hand size when they used its effect, they attacked my Unicore...eating an Honest and losing their dragon. Whoops! Not sure how well he slept that night...
@@nnnp634 Jar of Greed, Karma Cut & Phoenix Wing Wind Blast were my ways to tinker with my hand. The Jar got me mocked with "Oh looks like someone found a replacement for Upstart!" until Unicore hit the field and it was all "Oh...fuck". Also my build wasn't the beast-centric one. But instead Kushano abuse. Using Tour Guide or Mathematician to get it into the grave quickly, then Lurrie for the Synchro Summon.
I've been looking forward to this episode since the series began as light sworn ruler is what I came back into Yu-Gi-Oh playing back in 2014 or so.. only for a b tier version of the deck we played. Only one breakthrough skill in the main deck, no necro gardna that protects from attacks while in the graveyard, turn, only 2 recharge.. and iirc only 2 Vanity's Emptiness.. Not even including the turns of "kuribandit pass"
I hope y’all cover one of my fav old decks from this period- ilmos (stands for in loving memory of Stratos) it topped in Jan 2014 and was a deck based around using monsters with stratos like effects to gain value-the name refers to the fact that stratos was banned around that time
One thing didnt come up in this episode is that the sylvan rank 8 can stack the top 8 cards of your deck, when paired with draw effect like charity or upstart and with 3 vanity in deck this almost means search vanity on turn one.
*This list looks like the 5th place Oceania LIGHTSWORN deck, except they played 0 soul charge.* They played gold sarc too. He’s the only list I’ve ever seen play Leo too.
Been playing Rikka Sylvan in 2023 (now 2024 as its Jan 1st nice) and... Sylvan Dancepione is just actually an insane link monster? Dancepione excavate 3 is literally just double e-tele. Then you level fix... and she doesn't negate the cards that come out. So Dance into stuff like Lonefire or Mardel, Hermitree, etc it just feels insane. THEN after that you go Aromage Jasmine, then the new Aromage link 3. Then Benghalancer. Not even considering all the rikka cards too. And the Sylvan Rank 1 Xyz is ALSO insane?? Revive any plant pitching any plant and you make it so incredibly easy between Dancepione/Evilthorn/Rikka-Petal/All the sylvan level 1's.
I swear, the SECOND I saw the new Lore, I just hit the like button and laughed myself sick for half the video!! I love this!! Also great dueling today!
I'm glad you didn't show off the Stardust Spark Dragon/Vanity's Emptiness combo. I absolutely hated that combo even more than Emptiness by itself back in the day. Doesn't getting around the downside of one of the most powerful floodgates in the game's history so fun!?
Sagequoia's summon from hand is a "when ... you can" effect so the activation window can be missed Most importantly, if you draw off of hermitree after milling a sylvan. The draw was the last thing to happen, not the sylvan going to grave
Missed the early mention of just how fat Komushroomo's behind is. Its even better than Geargia's 1900 def. I'm a big proponent of Vanity's from a time when special summons were uncommon and, well, special and not combo pieces but the longer History goes the more I get it. I still think an effect like it should exist but it needs to burn the activator just as hard. Really force everyone into playing beatstick YGO. Not just "You can't set up after I have" the card.
can't wait for them to get to the "mist of resolving,crowning with the pure green leaf,praise to their father, blessed by the water black night dark sky the devils cry" deck in a couple of episodes
@@geiseric222 And MST solves the whole problem. And i know that most decks don't play much spell and trap removal. But this is only the case because it's rarely useful to have Spell and trap removal. A full Board of immunities and negates can prevent a player from playing the game, just like floodgates do. And i prefer playing a longer game where i have the chance of drawing my outs compared to loosing all my life points in Turn 2. But this is a preference thing. Let's not start a debate about whos playstile is more legit or something like that :D. I can totally see why other players love having constant access to toolbox extra decks witha nearly guaranteed Boss Monster on turn X.
@@Trashloot if just drawing the out is enough then just draw dark ruler no more, instantly outs any negate board. But doesn’t stop your opponent from playing. Though I was talking about in this format where negates basically don’t exist
@@geiseric222 I know. Just wanted to bring negates in to the discussion because Vanities still does what it did back in this format. But you are right.
I get time constraints and stuff but when you get to this point in yugiohs history you guys may want to consider playing out two matches, one where each of you gets to pick who goes first G1. Just a thought.
It’s very rare for star eater to be good in a format, but when it can be made fairly easy it is a real fun card to use Also both these decks are so sick, if this format didn’t have soul charge and vanity’s I feel like late HAT would be remembered much more fondly
0:47 Add a shitpost Ad? 1:28 now for the actual add 2:27 MBT's Deck: Lightsworn Dragon Rulers 5:48 Cimooo's deck: Sylvan 13:50 Game 1 21:00 Game 2 25:05 Game 3
I like to watch this series to see how old formats were, even if it was not the most fun. Emptiness was a big part of the game for a while, I think it's important to show us why
Yeah if you've watched one of MBT's recent Twitch streams, he made it clear he was not a fan of all the episodes they already recorded for this entire format. I think he said he enjoyed the episodes after this format though.
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I only noticed one real misplay.
MST would of been sent to GY by that one Sylv that has 2K def when it was milled.
I do not believe either of you atked the same turn as activating Soul Charge... as that is its only real limit.
This so click baiting just a scam
Don't click it
Thought was app combined 2 faces make a hypocritical baby
It's a game that scams you as need add money to play decent game
Cimoo gets paid to promote it
@@kodytiffany5686 Cimo also missed lethal on that turn, he could have popped the star eater with blaster, revived back the newly discarded hermitree and swung for game.
One interesting bit of trivia about this episode. At the time, Patrick Hoban was easily the most influential player in the community, and ppl would look up to see what he deemed the "best deck". He topped a tournament with lighsworn rulers as soon as they were released, ensuring a lot of people started playing that deck. Then he preceeded to enter nationals with Sylvan.
He later explains that he knew ppl were going to netdeck him as long as what he was playing was good enough, so he attempted to manipulate the meta by getting everyone into LS rulers, while keepig the "better" Sylvan deck to himself.
That's the danger with focusing too hard on what the pros/meta are playing, it gives them the chance to manipulate the information so everyone else is under prepared. Some could say it's a bit scummy, but honestly people copying the "top decks," almost always verbatim, was a lot more toxic to the longevity of the game 🤔 (though it was more of a problem during this period of time iirc, so maybe people learned from this bait and switch 🤔 .)
Absolute sheeple killer.
@@homerman76 *cough* Spright *cough*
No matter what thats an asshole move
That's still a problem to this day. But at least now the sims have gotten better to allow people to experiment without paying a fortune so they can realize what they're actually going to be able to do well with.
The craziest thing to me in Yugiohs history is just how long Vanity’s emptiness stuck around before it hit the chopping block. What an obnoxious card!
And also how long it was released before it started getting used. It came out in Starstrike Blast (same set as Formula Synchron), and it was almost never used until Ruler format
The difference was that people played the out and as a result sometimes drew it
Insane how long Mystic Mine and Crystron Halqifibrax have been around XP
@@verbalengine95 Vanity’s outs itself if another card is sent to the grave so no, it wasn’t just that people “played the out”
Soul Charge is way more busted.
This is the most minor cheat in the series so far, but when Cimo revealed for Sylvan Charity at the beginning of Game 1, he was also supposed to reveal Sagequoia since you reveal both cards.
MBT gets almost nothing from that tidbit of extra information, but it’s in the back of my brain so I thought I’d mention it.
You're not even a cimoooooo bot wtf is this?
My favorite part is he stopped to read the card a couple of times and still missed that
It's crazy how the vanity's went from a fragile floodgate that let's your opponent 2 for 1 you, to an oppressive floodgate with an easy off switch.
When you play explosive deck then stopping your opponent for one turn is more than enough. That's why Dimensional Barrier was such a pain.
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2:20 Deck List / Breakdown
14:45 Duels
In present day HAT format, Sylvan lists look a bit different. The combos are basically the same, but many people have cut down on the floodgates and Kuribandit to increase turn one combo potential.
Archfiend’s Oath is pretty much standard in Sylvans now. Although you occasionally have to blindly guess the top card of your deck, it happens a lot less often than you’d think. It’s kind of like extra copies of Upstart Goblin in some situations, but you can also trigger Sylvan effects by intentionally calling the card wrong to get the mill effect. It pairs incredibly well with both Sylvan Charity and Mount Sylvania.
The fact that it’s a continuous spell makes it great for follow up plays too.
Players have recently been testing builds of Sylvan that run trade-in for even more draw power and Malefic Stardust Dragon as a level 8 extender.
One of the great things about Oath is that it offers a method of outing Vanity's via stacking Shroom/Marsh without having to run MST in main as in other hands its just a good extender.
Could you link me a modern HAT Sylvan list? These techs seem super cool. I've been playing HAT with friends but I've mostly only been able to find lists from when the format was going on.
Hopefully the link I sent sends as I know youtube can be weird with links.
@@cairill If you sent a link, I can't see it
@@mophead1666 take the sylvan list in the video, replace one kuribandit, one emptiness and the foolish burial with 3 copies of oath. Replace the book of moon with a second forbidden lance/rose archer.
If you wanna play the trade in version, take out one forbidden lance/rose archer from the list I just showed you, one Archfiend’s Oath and both Kuribandit so you can fit in 2 copies each of trade in and malefic stardust dragon. Also you should replace the decisive armor in the extra deck for a second stardust dragon.
Also this probably goes without saying, but make your own side deck specific to what your locals/friend group is likely to play. Flying C is still busted in sylvans because you can loop it with Orea.
I hope this helps. : )
It didn’t really get shown off in this ep, but one of the most insane cards in Sylvans was Fertilizer. Because it is a SOFT once per turn. That means multiple copies mean multiple revives each turn, and Orea can bounce them to your hand to use them AGAIN in the same turn. Truly busted card.
In addition to Fertilizer, also bouncing Sagequoia, you can summon the Sagequoia you just bounced if you excavated a Sylvan for Orea. This and the Fertilizer at the same time of Oreas eff lets you keep making plays. Nutty
Not the worst kid. I hereby name them... CBT.
Sylvans always held a special place in my heart. I was never really fond of plant decks in general, but, for some reason, I remember trying it once and falling in love with it. Really think it's a shame that it fell off super hard over the years, specially in comparison to its contemporary archetypes, such as Shaddoll and Burning Abyss. The few cards we got over the years for it weren't enough to reignite it as a viable archetype.
Also, Cimooo's ad game is absolutely top tier. If I ever had a company looking for someone to sponsor, this man would be one of the first options.
25:21 "it's legal for the next format!"
Buddy, if only it were that tame. It's legal for the next *three years*
and at 3 until early 2015
Wasn't expecting MBC lore this episode lol
MBoooooooo imo is a better fused name, but I ain't in charge of their love.
@@williamfalls MBoooooooo is Cimo's pet name for MBT.
I mean the way MBT talks about Cimo on stream, he should have expected this.
Also: for this episode only, I am Team Cimo all the way. I love Sylvans. I haven't watched past the deck profiles yet but I am excited.
Everybody laughs at the card world carrot weight champion but its decent for sylvan you can dump rose lover to summon the champion don't disrespect your veggies!
@@kevinmorad2563 I like that card a lot
The first minute or so of this video taught me that THAT is what I want for 30+ minutes. Throw in some RJB and I’m all in. *Throwaway Thursdays*. A throwaway day where you guys just talk Yugioh and your respective communities.
I used to think older yu-gi-oh formats were less susceptible to floodgates, boy was I wrong.
Maybe hat Historic should just Banned Vanity's Emptiness? It definitely would be interesting
Well I wouldnt say "boy was I wrong" as some floodgates did shine as the time went by so they were worse in certain der formats, and they switched they usefulness pretty heavily depending on the firmat. So you were kinda right, certain formats were less susceptible to floodgates
Dang…I was super excited to see MBT’s turn at 20:46 to see if he could out Cimo’s board. And then 20:54 happens and ruins all the fun 😂
I think I speak for everyone when I say that we can’t wait for Vanity’s to get banned. Like seriously
@Cearus C No, I don’t think any of us forgot about that considering we can always see Cimo’s cards. That wasn’t the point of my comment
@Cearus C no, he didn't. thats the point lmao
You guys made this episode for me, these are literally 2 of my top 5 favorite decks of all time.
History of Yu-Gi-Oh! episode wins
Cimoooooooo: 51
MBT: 47
Being a Felgrand enjoyer and watching Game 3 made me sad. Felgrand can negate monsters too.
I personally love Sylvans as a deck: it has one of the only Brainstorms in all of Yugioh and its sad that this deck really only exists for exactly one format. One of the coolest combo decks in all of ygo's history.
To negate Blaster so it would stay on the field?
@@AlphaSquadZero This might surprise you but Felgrand can negate monsters on both sides of the field. Against Lightsworn, who can pretty easily beat over Felgrand and have to, using Felgrand to negate cards like Raiden or Kuribandit is really powerful.
@@lamiaprincess6371 I see, just stopping Cimo from potentially getting a high roll.
I remember a couple funny tidbits about both of these decks and they both involve Patrick Hoban:
-Hoban was initially on Sylvan during this stage of the format but pivoted to LS Ruler, a seemingly worse deck before jumping back to Sylvan for nats. Why? Because he knew that if he piloted LS Ruler and word got out people would buy into the hype of the deck, play it at Nats and he'd be able to pick up easier wins on them with his superior Sylvan deck. This was one of the first instances where Hoban would use how the playerbase acts to his advantage (the most infamous one of these being Djinngate).
-One of my friends was at Nationals and was passing by one of the tables that happened to have Hoban at them and the man was on tilt or something. I think time was coming up? All I know is that he distinctly remembered Hoban yelling, "It takes more than a minute to resolve Sylvan Charity!" and it's become a meme in our friend group since.
Good to know Gage is not only having a steamy night of passion with MBT, but also with CIMO
I feel like one deck that history missed was the brief period where soul charge skyrocketed Infernity to tier one contention.
The deck; combined with lavalval chain and soul charge was a notable player with crazy turn 1’s. Not sure if they opted not to explore it but I recall that deck was crazy especially on the arg circuit
Cimo and MBT just showing us that Konami was on CRACK when designing Emptiness and Soul Charge
Tbf Soul Charge was an anime card from DM
Do wanna see this format again, but full on gentleman's out of Vanity as this seems like a super cool format.
Definitely agree to that. The lightsworn deck looked sick when it popped off.
I can link you the discord for the h.a.t. format discord, if you're interested in playing the format
@@aut0mata please do !
There's a reason why the format is named after a grindy control deck and not either of the sacky explosive combo decks they played for this episode. Vanity's is unironically not that problematic when you're summoning a couple of monsters per turn at most and trading with backrow every turn. It's like when MBT went out of his way to run Scythe when he played HAT and lost to Cimo's Geargia deck because Scythe does nothing against grindy control strategies.
@@Click3tyClick moist
MBT hand in game 3 is why some people ran Hand Destruction. Wyvern and rulers are really bad in hand so a card to fix that is really nice. As I liked to tell myself "going minus one doesn't matter if you win next turn."
Ahh, Sylvans. I remember wanting to build this deck as soon as I saw it. It was such a fun but competitive deck. Felgrand and miracle fertilizer really gave this deck its power! Sucks they couldn't show off Alsei but I remember my opponent's face when I call blue eyes just so I could get the mill so I could spin their cards!
I love that he called in the H.A.T Artifact Traptrick format in the intro. I love playing the Hand Artifact Traptrick Artifact Traptrick format
Since my connection at work is constantly buffering the D2 Kings Fall day 1 race, this is something good to hold me over.
Lightsworn Rulers will always have a special place in my heart. In 2014, as a high school student who didn’t have a ton of money to spend, the main deck of LS Ruler was very affordable and did great at a local/regional level. Lightsworn Structure, Eclipse Wyvern came in a structure. Rulers were all rares I just had from pulling LTGY. And Soul Charge was a super in Dragons of Legend. Good times.
The lightsworn starter deck was my second deck ever. (Still have it too) This is the time I really started getting into yugioh more heavily. Had a small collection back then, now it’s outrageous.
I’m honestly surprised Kuribandit has never gotten more recognition. It’s kinda cracked.
Aside of Rulers which should almost never have been printed. Sylvans might be the most pushed archetype in the game so far historically. Charity literally reads like a custom card. If Duelist Alliance wasn't so significantly good Sylvan Chairty or just more plant stuff would've gotten hit.
Ah, Sylvans. I remember playing a Sylvan deck that used Amaryllis and Circle of the Fire Kings to cycle into Hermitree and draw crazy advantage. Reasoning was also a ridiculous card in Sylvans. Here’s hoping they make another appearance! :)
sylvans were definitely not the best deck in the format, they just had the highest ceiling. They could be really bricky and through the course of an entire tournament they didnt tend to stick which is why HAT ended up winning the WCQ, where people were more scared of Geargia and Lightsworns/Rulers
Soul charge and vanities emptiness what a fucking format
LIGHTSWORN RULER! this is deck I use for my HAT local, I love it!
Props to Cimo, gun to my head I could NOT have told you where that intro ad was going
2014 sylvans is one of the most skill intensive decks of all time
Happy 100th episode of History of YU-GI-OH!!!
Ah Lightsworn Ruler. My best memory of it is playing my Fabled deck against it. Round 1 I used Unicore to negate Tidal, Eclipse and Tempest in one go, locking a card out of the game for good. It traumatized my opponent so badly that in round 2, they summoned Judgment Dragon while I again had Unicore, but instead of risking me activating a card to change my hand size when they used its effect, they attacked my Unicore...eating an Honest and losing their dragon. Whoops! Not sure how well he slept that night...
I never knew how to play Unicore control, but Honest was my best Fabled card
@@nnnp634 Jar of Greed, Karma Cut & Phoenix Wing Wind Blast were my ways to tinker with my hand.
The Jar got me mocked with "Oh looks like someone found a replacement for Upstart!" until Unicore hit the field and it was all "Oh...fuck".
Also my build wasn't the beast-centric one. But instead Kushano abuse. Using Tour Guide or Mathematician to get it into the grave quickly, then Lurrie for the Synchro Summon.
So for me, this is quite interesting. I love learning about old things/history of stuff I love which is why I love HoY and HoJ.
I've been looking forward to this episode since the series began as light sworn ruler is what I came back into Yu-Gi-Oh playing back in 2014 or so.. only for a b tier version of the deck we played. Only one breakthrough skill in the main deck, no necro gardna that protects from attacks while in the graveyard, turn, only 2 recharge.. and iirc only 2 Vanity's Emptiness.. Not even including the turns of "kuribandit pass"
Giving an archetype a Brainstorm is a hilarious part of history that I'm just learning about. This format rules outside of Vanity's though
This deck was so hard them made a whole nuisances teaching you it (Sylvan Learning)
I LOVE HAT FORMAT!!!
I LOVE EVERY GAME BEING DECIDED BY VANITIES AND MAXX C!!!
I hope y’all cover one of my fav old decks from this period- ilmos (stands for in loving memory of Stratos) it topped in Jan 2014 and was a deck based around using monsters with stratos like effects to gain value-the name refers to the fact that stratos was banned around that time
Some people did test using sylvan charity in infernity: so they could empty their hand.
Next week will probably be XYZ Infernity. It's about the only deck they haven't used yet.
One thing didnt come up in this episode is that the sylvan rank 8 can stack the top 8 cards of your deck, when paired with draw effect like charity or upstart and with 3 vanity in deck this almost means search vanity on turn one.
I love the History of Vanity's Emptiness
He would’ve won one turn earlier because he hit the komushrumo and didn’t use the effect. That misplay could’ve cost him the game
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Ohhh....... so this is gonna be one of THOSE kinda episodes, huh? I thought you had to be a Starlight Rare Patron to watch those vids 😏😏😏
*This list looks like the 5th place Oceania LIGHTSWORN deck, except they played 0 soul charge.* They played gold sarc too. He’s the only list I’ve ever seen play Leo too.
This is the best intro for a sponsor I’ve ever seen
MBT didn't have to do gage dirty like that
Theyre just straight up encouraging MPreg fics at this point...
So we're close to 100 episodes in the History of Yu-Gi-Oh! Awesome👍👍
I loved my lightsworn deck. Nothing beat the opening hand brick with Wulf taunting me
Wow I played this exact Lightsworn deck when I came back into Yugioh, ah the nostalgia
Vanity's Emptiness is a fair and balanced card.
Been playing Rikka Sylvan in 2023 (now 2024 as its Jan 1st nice) and... Sylvan Dancepione is just actually an insane link monster? Dancepione excavate 3 is literally just double e-tele. Then you level fix... and she doesn't negate the cards that come out. So Dance into stuff like Lonefire or Mardel, Hermitree, etc it just feels insane. THEN after that you go Aromage Jasmine, then the new Aromage link 3. Then Benghalancer. Not even considering all the rikka cards too. And the Sylvan Rank 1 Xyz is ALSO insane?? Revive any plant pitching any plant and you make it so incredibly easy between Dancepione/Evilthorn/Rikka-Petal/All the sylvan level 1's.
When Konami is so done with the stackers that makes it an actual game mechanic, and of course the deck performs really well.
I swear, the SECOND I saw the new Lore, I just hit the like button and laughed myself sick for half the video!! I love this!! Also great dueling today!
So early Ruxin and the Auction Series hasn't returned yet
23:34 You know how the saying goes: When you draw a bunch of bricks, make a brick house.
I love the Sylvan cards. Plants have always been one of my favorite.
This was honestly the best format
I'm glad you didn't show off the Stardust Spark Dragon/Vanity's Emptiness combo. I absolutely hated that combo even more than Emptiness by itself back in the day. Doesn't getting around the downside of one of the most powerful floodgates in the game's history so fun!?
Mystic Dragon rulers needs an episody. And a final episody of HAT with they wheel returning. And next... Pendulums, BA and dolls...
Sagequoia's summon from hand is a "when ... you can" effect so the activation window can be missed
Most importantly, if you draw off of hermitree after milling a sylvan. The draw was the last thing to happen, not the sylvan going to grave
No, read hermitree.
Wow. So hyped for this Episode- Lightsworns vs. Sylvans, I loved combos those two archetypes could make in one turn during that time so much🤩🤓💥👍
Cimo hyped up the sylvan xyz so hard and then didn't even use it.
26:19 Cimo could have destroyed the set MST via Komushroomo getting excavated to the graveyard
Missed the early mention of just how fat Komushroomo's behind is. Its even better than Geargia's 1900 def.
I'm a big proponent of Vanity's from a time when special summons were uncommon and, well, special and not combo pieces but the longer History goes the more I get it. I still think an effect like it should exist but it needs to burn the activator just as hard. Really force everyone into playing beatstick YGO. Not just "You can't set up after I have" the card.
Truly an uncut gem
FYI @Cimooo: you have to reveal both cards, not just the sylvan
Duel links sylvan format was the best thing ever
Sylvan Komushroomo giving me horrific Duel Links PTSD
MBT, Game 1: "I hate Vanity's Emptiness!"
MBT, Game 2: "I love Vanity's Emptiness!"
can't wait for them to get to the
"mist of resolving,crowning with the pure green leaf,praise to their father, blessed by the water black night dark sky the devils cry" deck
in a couple of episodes
There is nothing more demoralizing than to lose your turn to emptiness
I honestly like vanities way more than summoning a full board of synchros xyz and whatever. Its also easier to out.
Vantues stop you from playing. At this point felgrand is the only extra deck monster that does anything on your turn
@@geiseric222 And MST solves the whole problem. And i know that most decks don't play much spell and trap removal. But this is only the case because it's rarely useful to have Spell and trap removal. A full Board of immunities and negates can prevent a player from playing the game, just like floodgates do.
And i prefer playing a longer game where i have the chance of drawing my outs compared to loosing all my life points in Turn 2.
But this is a preference thing. Let's not start a debate about whos playstile is more legit or something like that :D. I can totally see why other players love having constant access to toolbox extra decks witha nearly guaranteed Boss Monster on turn X.
@@Trashloot if just drawing the out is enough then just draw dark ruler no more, instantly outs any negate board. But doesn’t stop your opponent from playing.
Though I was talking about in this format where negates basically don’t exist
@@geiseric222 I know. Just wanted to bring negates in to the discussion because Vanities still does what it did back in this format. But you are right.
1:23 Ohhh, look at Gage’s adopted little brother.
I get time constraints and stuff but when you get to this point in yugiohs history you guys may want to consider playing out two matches, one where each of you gets to pick who goes first G1.
Just a thought.
This was the time I joined into yugioh. I loved lightsworn rulers. I miss them every day 😭
Baby cute aww
Cimoo and Ruxin would make a hot red headed baby though lol
It’s very rare for star eater to be good in a format, but when it can be made fairly easy it is a real fun card to use
Also both these decks are so sick, if this format didn’t have soul charge and vanity’s I feel like late HAT would be remembered much more fondly
Bring back auction series! Don’t know how , but need to see it
When you run into Bujins main decking Colosseum and Emptiness you will feel pain like never before.
Duelingbook does have a macro for excavating, type /mill followed by the number of cards
Man this format looked really fun to play, I still hte myself for stopping at Dragon Rulers format to play Cardfight Vanguard.
*I LOVE VANTIES EMPTINESS!*
*I LOVE BEING ABLE TO TURN OFF ALL MY OPPONENTS MOVES, WHILE ALSO BEING ABLE TO TURN IT OFF ON MY TURN*
Just for a nostalgic nod, you should have played RescuCatDuelist's 'Lovely Sylvans" build that turboed out Shooting Star Dragon.
0:47 Add a shitpost Ad? 1:28 now for the actual add
2:27 MBT's Deck: Lightsworn Dragon Rulers 5:48 Cimooo's deck: Sylvan
13:50 Game 1
21:00 Game 2
25:05 Game 3
Really enjoyable to se my first deck in action. Incredible the field cimo did With soul charge
Please never open an episode like this ever again. I don’t want to think about Cimo bottoming for Jospeh
That Gage roast was gold tho
Agreed, cimo would definitely top
@@yarielrobles9003 For sure. Joseph has been watching too much of that sissy hypno to be the daddy.
I knew it was an ad when I started but boy did I not know where it was going
I like to watch this series to see how old formats were, even if it was not the most fun. Emptiness was a big part of the game for a while, I think it's important to show us why
I have an inkling that MBT doesn’t like this format very much
Yeah if you've watched one of MBT's recent Twitch streams, he made it clear he was not a fan of all the episodes they already recorded for this entire format. I think he said he enjoyed the episodes after this format though.
I'm sad we didn't get to see any cool Orea combos with Fertilizer.