Bad Gear - Yamaha SU10 Sampling Unit - Too LoFi???
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Welcome to Bad Gear, the show about the world's most hated audio tools. Today we are going to talk about the Yamaha SU10 Sampling Unit. Is it too lo-fi???
That "Lo-fi af slightly off the grid wonky dystopian" beat is fire!
Thanks!
Definitely on to a winner winner chicken dinner with it 😁 seriously...
No lie! GREAT work on that one!
Prolly best Bad Gear tune I had heard
@@HashMagician I second that notion.
It looks like the kind of thing you'd find in a pawn shop with the wrong cables and a mystery crust on the corners of the screen.
How did you know about the crust? ;)
I've absolutely walked past this answering machine at least ten times. Usually reshuffled amongst the growing stack of used keyboards and yellowed desk lights.
@@AudioPilz he smokes meth too
The fact that Björk used it as a sketch pad for ideas when working on Homogenic is enough on it’s own for this to deserve a place in music history.
Absolutely!
playing on top of a volcano is a total mood. i'm with björk here.
also i think that lo-fi af slightly off the grid wonky distopian hip hop instrumental is my new favourite musical genre
Björk rules! Thanks!
"Look son, this is how Volca Sample looked like when I was your age"
Full midi capability ;)
"less" knobs,but better in every way!
probably faster file transfer too
If this is the volca sample then the Yamaha QR-10 is the old school pocket operator. It has a built in speaker and does sampling. It’s a fun little unit!
Realtime sampling :p
This is RAD GEAR not bad.
I had one in the late 90's, it was brilliant, and I used to sample old ladies chatting on the bus, and make tunes on the spot in headphones.
It was genuinely great.
That's the way to go!
Ahh, some good ol' granny-lur sampling.
Agreed - I loved this piece in the 90's, and always wanted to own one growing up
Low Fi Granny Grooves are the way
I never figured out sequencing on it. It was sooo convoluted.
It's criminal that this channel doesn't already have a million subs
Thanks! I wholeheartedly agree ;)
I love my SU -10! i bought one in 1999 and i still have it, I have made about 3 albums of music with it, Hip Hop and evil distorted Jungle (all between 99-2003). I used to trigger the samples by hand and record to minidisc, jamming the tune until i had great sections and then chop up sections on the minidisc edtor function I shit you not! that is how i made 3 records! all on batteries ! amazing!
Agreed! One of my favorite compact samplers!!!
Thats sounds cool but where can I find them?
I want to hear those albums! Do you have them up on Bandcamp or anything?
Now, you can't just tell us this without giving us some hope that we'll be able to hear it!
@@HyPeRGeNeRaToR ah shit sorry guys yes i have one on Bandcamp but the other 2 I dont one day !hahah
New bad gear vid - another not bad friday evening
Happy to hear that, thank God it's Friday
How little this show has changed in 2 years. It‘s all here already, the concept, the structure, the execution. Wonderfully timeless, I‘d say!
Thank you so much!!!
Can we all just take a moment to appreciate the awesome video-editing that goes into these video's? Great stuff again, those tracks are ganz super!
Vielen Dank!
"only" 10k views and over 500 comments. That's how you know your content absolutely slaps. RUclips would be a much shittier place without you, and I appreciate the time you take to make this dope content. Thank you.
Thank you so much!
That Lo-Fi AF Slightly Off The Grid Wonky Dystopian jam was crunchy as chips. Id listen to that on my free time.
Thank you!
Great video! This was my first sampler. I didn't care much about sound quality at the time, I was recording on a cassette 4-track. There was a record store in my area that was getting rid of all their vinyl stock, 5 for 1 dollar and I bought so much just cheesy random stuff, specifically for sampling. I had so much fun. I'll always love this sampler.
Thanks! Vinyl session FTW
OOOH! The "biting the bullet" thing with "I married a strange person" was awesome. Love that movie!
Bill Plympton - legend!
That first tune is a banger! Did not expect you to go full sweaty warehouse rave right out the gate with this one but I'm so glad you did.
No times wasted;)
Pretty sure I saw Bjork using one of these live - think it was a Gilles Peterson curated multi-artist show. I was in the crowd stood next to a woman with a hoodie and backpack. At a point in proceedings she nonchalantly walked to the stage and got on up, revealed her identity and pulled out this little sampler from her backpack, plugged in and knocked out a couple of sparse, glitchy and haunting numbers.
Wow, I would have loved to be there
I had one of there in 1998 and loved it. Just today at work(I work for a music gear shop), we were organizing stuff and I found an SU-10 that’s literally been sitting behind me for 6 months without my knowledge. Looks like I’m getting reunited with the beast!
Nice find!
"Too lo-fi?"
Only makes me like samplers more. The trashier the sound, the better
I understand the approach but for me there's a limit (and it's the Yamaha DJX;)
Yea there's no such thing as 'too lofi'
@@AudioPilz how dare you!?!?!?
Fun fact, the Yamaha SU/QY line of this era is the exact same form factor as Korg's Volca line, so they fit perfectly in a Volca stand along with other Volcas. Only issue is that the ports are on the "top"/back instead of the face, so in some stands, like the official Sequenz Volca stands, you can only place them in the upmost row, as the others block the MIDI and audio jacks.
The Volcas are even a bit bigger (just had to check that out now;)
Always finds a way to make the bad gear sound gnarly
Thank you!
Every time I go back to watch one of your previous episodes that I missed by not knowing about this channel for way too long, I wonder if you have some secret list of "movies that would make great episode intros"
this thing is honestly my favorite sampler. If there was a modern version with the same workflow, the ability to save and load projects, and about double the sample memory per project, I would be all over that. Model:Samples is the closest thing.
Agreed, we need more of these boxes!
This was my first sampler which I bought at the end of 1997. I remember how liberating it was for me to to finally be able to incorporate sound form the outside world into my music. These were the first truly afforable samplers. Before the mid nineties samplers were horrendously expemsive, even second hand ones.
These units were among the first samplers to use flash RAM so samples stayed in memory after powering the unit down, which was just as well because saving samples over MIDI SDS was very slow and pretty much impossible. I used to just save my sampes as audio files on cassette and sample them back in when I needed them, it was much easier!
You could have used midi dump for backups using a joystick to midi cable and an old PC
My first sampler was a second hand Mirage rack, cost me £400. two seconds of mono 8 bit sampling. How can anyone slag this amazing piece of kit?
@@MegaBadgeman hahah yes! my first Sampler was an Akai S-01. 2.64 seconds of 8 bit mono sample time hahah so i know the score!
This guy is absolutely one of my favorite personalities on RUclips.
Thank you!!!
One of the best parts about it is that you can use it to edit samples (setting loop points accurately is an absolute JOY on this thing) and then SYSEX transfer them to old sample-capable workstations like the SY85.
Wow, didn't know that! Great!!!
@@AudioPilz I spent best part of a week sampling and transferring bits from an MC-303, RM1X and EMX-1 over to my 85. Was traumatising, but entirely worth it.
The SU is also a great as a drum expander for the QY70..... 😅
Yeah it was designed to sit on an sy85
@@nickmonk634 the case is just a reworked RY8 so it seems unlikely the format was specifically designed for the SY. It was definitely aimed at SY owners (there was even an ad that said something about it being the 'ultimate upgrade for the SY85/99') but they just happened to have that case that would fit on the blank areas nicely.
@@nickmonk634 perhaps but it’s blue casing was more intended to be a companion to the CS1x
Straight up the best editing on any music gear channel by far!!!
Thank you!!!
My Friday routine: Close laptop, pour wine, go to studio and watch AudioPlz weekly upload! Another great vid. This little machine passed me by (I was probably too immersed in Cubase VST or something) but it's very cool. Superb jams as ever.
Thank you! And thank God it's Friday!
@@AudioPilz amen to that!
Honestly this thing looks fucking dope. I want one. Yamaha (or some clone maker like Behringer) should remake this with the same interface and updated internals. Fix a few of the limitations and re-release it
Yeah, many nice features most contemporary samplers are missing
Ho yeah, i buy it immediately!
you have no idea how much I look forward to these every week
Thanks! So happy to hear that!
@@AudioPilz if you ever want to do a collab with a shitty vtuber who loves synths let me know LMAO
This was my first sampler. I kept a backup copy of the sounds on cassette. Not as data, as audio..
That's the way to go. At least it's not possible to lose any more high frequencies ;)
The cassette was better quality.. It must've been like using 24bit.96kHz sampling tech to record an old, on its last mofo legs, 78 record 🤣
Mine too before I sold it to fund the purchase of an MPC2000. I bought another one a few months back. Needless to say, I'm so spoiled with modern tech.🤣
Almost my first sampler ..but I backed up the audio on to my mini disc Walkman 😂
I knew nothing about the SU10 and have been using an SU700 for 20 years, as always , great video
Thanks!
Great stuff! I think this is the first time a Bad Gear episode made me actually want the gear that was featured! But damn those prices already went up...
Really? I was too afraid to check it out
So I lay around and watch these after work. And laugh hard at all the silly imagery.
Then marvel at the musical lemonade from the lemons.
Which eventually motivates me to do *something* with all the toys in the den. Thanks, and have a good weekend.
Happy to hear that! Thanks!
"This was crunchy as chips!"
Indeed!
'Bjork suggested we use one while sitting on a volcano' This may be the least strange sentence with Bjork in it that I've ever heard.
Great review once again!!
Thank you! Love Björk!
@@AudioPilz Amazing lady!
All examples were bangers.
Thank you!
@@AudioPilz Always welcome! You stay well mate. Have a nice weekend. :- )
They always are!
so nice to see this video... i used that sampler for a great number of years and still currently own one that I use together with my MPC 2500
Thank you!!!
I remember the Bjork video where she demonstrated it. A classic Bjork moment was here interview with the she opened up a CRT tv.
Always loved her interviews!
Was this the interview in which she sampled the sea and pitched it to a hihat?
Hahaha that 'the machine' joke caught me off guard. Great channel, been binging your videos like crazy. I'm entertaining getting my 18-year old hands on one of these and a Novation Bass Station rack for my humble little studio. Cheers!
Happy to hear that. Thanks!
This is what I do for every new Bad Gear episode: 1) find out what item he’s ridiculing; 2) check my ebay purchase history to (more often than not) find out I bought said item years ago for cheep; 3) search basement for it 😂
AudioPilz wants to know your location ;)
I got a wersi bass synthesizer in the basement, the only synth with an haweii button feature
Every time I see a new Bad Gear episode in my feed my day is made.
Happy to hear that!
That non-backlit screen looks like it'd be a ton of fun at a gig. Along with a box of floppies the size of a Juno
That is definitely a challenge
Why you wearing that little light strapped to your forehead?
Cuz, reasons!
Good shit as always.
Remind me to invite you out for a beer after the plague is gone for good.
Thanks! Post-plague is gonna be really nice!
I see that RNC in every video, it’s like a mop bucket for sound.
It's sooooooooooo tight!
@@AudioPilz I read that in your beautiful accent !
That first jam brought me back to late-90s Drumcode records with such nostalgia whiplash that I wanted to boot up a PS1 immediately after.
😀
Fridays in 2019: gonna get sweaty in da club. Fridays 2021: watch bad gear in da tub.
We know what's healthier ;)
I feel like your editing is getting better and better and better. Always a pleasure to be reminded that it´s friday
Thank you!!!
That goddamned vocoder shout-out is the most ridiculous synth-nerdiest thing ever. It's the coolest Patreon perk I have seen.
Happy to hear that! Currently working on a few things to make it even more spectacular
Just starting to get into recording. So glad I found this channel!
Thanks! Stick around!
I had the SU200 and the SU700 (love the floppy drive🤣)
Nice!!!
The predecessor of SU700
Btw... this one deserve a chapter too! ;)
I Love your channel...
Thanks! Great suggestion!
The Burt Kreischer reference blew my mind
THE MACHINE!!!
Damn, I was feeling all three of your tunes this episode. Great work.
Happy to hear that, thanks!
My first sampler ❤
Made a whole album with this bad boy and an Atari ST.
Good times 😊
First love is the deepest!
Back when making an album was a big undertaking 👍
I laughed out loud at the Krabs sample drop and then just milliseconds later I was looking for my glow sticks and a pacifier. Great ep.
Happy to hear that. Thanks!
Everybody knows it's pronounced "Autechre". As in, "Autechre".
Great vid as always. Stop making me pine for gear I have absolutely no business accumulating!
Thanks! I pronounce it "Autechre"
Love my SU10. Have it since late 90. Made allot of gigs with it and still using it. now it has some samples made with the bucla208c. Gives them a new life.
This needs a part B with the SU200, where they corrected all the Su10 limits while introducing 10 more
Yeah, just looked that one up. They have become quit costly
Not to forget the su700 as part C/3
Your tunes keep getting better and this unit sounds amazingly lofi, I wish you could get that sample coloration as a plugin.
Thanks! Lo-fi plugs never really tickled my fancy, it doesn't seem to do the same thing
Tal dac
OK, that Y2K Electronica jam was a banger!
Thank you!
I love when AudioPilz talks about mashing
haha love the channel homedawg
Thank you!
The Yamaha SU200 is also worth a look - basically a slightly improved SU10 (more effects, more sampling time, ability to save to card, shockingly good MIDI implementation). The Zoom SST-224 is a beefed up SU10 on the audio front but unfortunately its MIDI implementation is absolute pants (have got to program everything via step sequencer when synching externally, if you want to play live you've got monophony and have got to wait a second before playing another sample due to weird release programming).
Thanks for the input!
I wish I could double subscribe to this channel for the mention of cobra killer and nic endo 👏👏👏
Thanks! Always been a fan of them
that techno beat goes deep
Thanks! Damn, I miss loud PA systems
No matter how bad the gear is, you always manage to find its niche and do something creative with it.
This channel is proof in itself that there is no bad gear, it all comes down to creativity, which you have heaps of!
Thank you so much!
Dammmn, that dystopian Hip-Hop track was great! Could you upload a full version?
Thanks! There's a longer version on Patreon, let's see if I can find the time to make a full track
The "dystopian instrumental" jam reminds me of something BOC might do. I love it!
Thanks! Just checked it out!
Kid Koala used at least three of them at a concert I’ve been. One setup with wireless mic transmitter to use it in the crowd.
This guy really knows his stuff
I love watching your reviews the way its put together is interesting
Thank you so much!!!
The Yamaha su10 is also really good for making Chuck Person style vaporwave tracks.
Perfect piece of ART, friend, this upload! Sehr gelungenes kleiner Schau...sehr angenehm und ganz überzeugend...wie immer. Danke für dies fröhliches Leckerbissen ;-} Grüs aus der Ferne (Die Niederlande) ;-}
Dank u wel!
@@AudioPilz Graag gedaan!
This sampler is the most amazing phrase samper for its time
I still have the Sample CD sound library
Absolutely! Unfortunately, mine came without the CDs
Your music examples are amazing !
Thank you!
Flo, your patreon people should get a heads-up a few days before do they can look for these things on eBay before your show makes them go through the roof!🙂❤️
They actually do ;)
So sick! The music you made on this simple box is nothing short of highly accomplished and awesome 😎👍
Thank you so much!
ok gonna throw it out there. make an album with your "demo" tracks, name it "Bad Gear", release it everywhere. Profit!
I thought about selling it as analog cassettes and VHS only. Bigger markups!
@@AudioPilz Your humor is dated and obsolete ;)
This was my first ever sampler owned! This video makes me want to dig it out from whatever closet I have it in. I fit the demo you mentioned, was looking to begin making beats, but later moved on to the MPC2000xl which I still use to this day. I never made an entire beat in this thing (that I remember). I used it as my sampler and played stuff along with the drums from an SR-16 Drum Machine and recorded to a Tascam 424 4-Track tape machine. I was definitely a product of my enviornment back in the late 90's, but I figured it out. Thanks for bringing some light to this piece, lots of great memories here for me.
This is still my favorite piece of gear. I also have the Su 200 it’s bigger brother and I can’t say enough good things about it. I am in Germany if you wanna borrow it.
Thanks for the offer!
Mine is still going strong to this day and remains one of my most loved machines.
Absolutely, it's a keeper!
Kid Koala is definitely a big fan of these as I'm sure are other turntablists. There's something oddly endearing about this, the DJ-70 and other scratch-DJ inspired DJ samplers.
Yeah, Kid Koala even had one on a wireless for stage diving
I saw Kid Koala perform the 2bit blues with SU10 in hand... freakin awesome. That man is a genius.
Almost everything you feature for your bad gear vids winds up on my wishlist, haha.
Bad Gear G.A.S. is a thing ;)
@@AudioPilz I already had a Korg DDM-110 but I also got a Casio Trackformer. G.A.S. is a dangerous thing.
i need more 'Lo-fi af slightly off the grid wonky dystopian' beats
Thanks! That machine is such a lofi beat monster!!!
A full album please
Bad Gear Friday!!!!Friday happiness complete! Man that low af jam was awesome!
Thank you!
SU10 aged well, next week QY10? Great show
Thanks! Got a QY10 here but it is too much of a PITA even for me
More-or-less a pocket operator with MIDI. Jam at the end was nasty dude. Very nice.
Thank you!
dude the lofi af song is FIRE
Thank you!
This might be my favorite episode so far. The beats slap especially hard in this one.
Thank you!
Damn I literally just picked one of these up the other week! It's a cool little device, but yeah, the lack of ability to tune individual samples or a resample function does make it a lot less versatile than it otherwise could've been (sequencing and quantisation would've been nice, but that seems to be easily worked around thanks to MIDI). I'm likely going to use mine to sketch out rough beats to flesh out on something more capable, like my Zoom Sampletrak (which is something that would be cool to see a video on in the future).
Also, you should definitely check out the Alesis AirFX! I picked one of those up ages back and it's one of the stranger pieces of gear I've seen.
Damn, I had an AirFX for years but sold it some time ago
AirFX RULES!!!
That dystopian beat was off the chain! Gotta get one of these!!!
Thanks!!!
It was ahead of its time in a cooky way. I have one and it sounds uniquely Lo-Fi. After you get over its quirks, it's a unique piece of gear. Still wished it had a real sequencer - but hey at least you get to record all you F%$#!-up mistakes in high resolution! If Yamaha updated this baby it would be a winner. Live sampling, sequencing, memory expansion, lit screen, battery-powered, effects and filters, and a small synth engine.
Absolutely! Total Volca killer!
What a great episode! & the perfect memejam to accompany it, too!
Thank you!
The cartoon guy swallowing the cheese burger at 3:26 is from a cartoon movie that should be more well known. It's called "I Married a Strange Person" and it's the weirdest shit you will ever see in your life. I should mention it was made by Bill Plympton too
Love Bill Plympton. Didn't he get an Oscar?
@@AudioPilz Academy award nominated for animated short, Your Face and recently made a Simpsons intro.
Super old video, but wanted to comment because 3 years after seeing this video, I finally got one for a decent price.
It's insane how much they go for those days.
The only real thing I missed is resampling, but using a Zoom G1on multieffect pedal which has a looper was the perfect solution to both add high quality effects/EQ/compression and bounce samples by using the looper!
Together they make for an insane lo-fi music production setup!
Nice approach!!!
Zum LoFi HipHop-Track: Bin extrem beeindruckt! 👍🏻
Besten Dank!
5:13 are you kidding me?! you are killing it again,damn i need to step upp my game you are crushing it :)
Damn i really start to like this channel :)
Thank you so much!!!
I actually wouldn’t mind replacing my volca sample with this!
Why not use both? 😈
I use both!
If you were the editor of future magazine, I'd still be a subscriber. And they'd have to bring back reader submitted demos and tone down the ads, but hey you know Rome wasn't built in a day :)
Thank you. Reader submitted demos all day!
Thank you for this, I have the SU20. Its the same for our use im 2k21. Lofi AF. No sequencer, cringe. I use it mostly like effect, to make lofi harsh sounds. i love to make feedback loop out of it, i mostly use my ARQ96 for sampling now but this weirdo adds some 90s character, it can timestretch in like 16bits and all other shits. i dont want to sell it right now but thanks to your videoi can charge much more now, eventually.
You're welcome! ;)
I had one of these in the late 90s and used it as a one shot sampler to fire off air horns during DJ gigs. It was quite fun!
Perfect sampler for that!!!