11.5" Supremacy
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- Опубликовано: 10 сен 2024
- Everybody knows that 11.5" is objectively the best barrel length for an AR, and in this video The Nova Group boys talk about their 11.5" AR setups. These builds are meant to be full featured GPRs, not dedicated night fighting guns, which means they have to have a lot of stuff on them.
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Let's see Paul Allen's 11.5
🔥🔥🔥🤣🤣 solid
Look at that subtle FDE cerakote. The tasteful lightness of it. Oh my God, it even has tax stamp.
Fuck I just commented the same thing without realizing you beat me to the punch.
REAL ORIGINAL BRO!
Meh it’s ok he does get into Dorsia though.
Assfacts has a slightly better haircut
That's obviously not hop because he just admitted to actually liking something.
it's a meat suit being piloted by nova 2
-Brass
Hop meme = JJ from Spiderman saying Crap, Crap, Mega crap!!!
😂
Bizarro Hop
Negative, I am a meat popsicle
Public service announcement: do NOT take a drink every time that man says "f**k".
DO IT. LIVE YOUR LIFE (for not much longer)
-Brass
Fuck it we ball
Five seconds in, pour up
Fuck your liver!
Let's see Nova's 11.5 setup
More of a 13.21857” fan
13.14159 inches
I prefer 13.22” for better velocity coefficients
that .218 really hits different
instructions unclear, got 11.5 .308
That boy gonna rattle some teeth
@@bradley5890put a can on it then
RiP that optic! 😆
Baste
😂! I almost built a 14.5” .308 just for SAG… Built a .300 blackout instead. Glad I thought better of it!
The 11.5 barrel in my parts bin talking to me like the green goblin mask
😂
You know how much I sacrificed?
I thought is was just me!😂
Ah perfect time to confirm my biases.
That’s an impressive vocabulary he’s got there.
12.8" is where it's at!
I hope that length is a nice round number in metric.
@@Hoplopfheil nah, it just a random length that my hacksaw cut
@@PolenarTacticalatf is getting a visa now
@@PolenarTacticalAmericaaaaa Fck yeah !!!! 😂
What about 6.9”?
20” because everybody knows bedtime is 9:00pm 😎
M16A4 cloners on top
@@bradley5890 all are welcome, from A1 to hypothetical A5 👌
8:30 smart ass
nobody actually runs 20” guns lmfao
@@cardboard_shaft Sure man, whatever you say 👍
Thank you for justifying my predisposed love for 11.5" guns.
the left guy's almost every other word is "fucking"
he's a marine, so it's not even slightly surprising.
-Brass
It's what Marines do. Took time to quit saying fucking grass, fucking car, fucking Marine Corps. 🫡🇺🇸
You always talk about what you wish you had ...
Took me like 3 years of consciously forcing myself to not do that. USMC just does that to you.
beer+gun= fuck
But 20" barrels are the cutest.
Got this queued up as my bedtime story tonight. Love these longer form rambly podcast type discussions you guys do.
I really like Hop's rifle, but it's missing Iron sights and cat hair.
And it’s got all those ambi gizmos.
12.5 guys *grumbling*
A Sionics 12.5" mid-length barrel with a Polonium K on the end of it is the ultimate meta. You could get a lot done in many places with an upper like that.
@@AncientGloomlove my sionics 12.5 build, but with a griffin hrt. Love it. Also have a hodge 11.5 build with Dual-lok 5
Add 1" get 200-250 fps more 🙄
@@AncientGloom12.5 hardly gains anything over 11.5
@goawaybaizuo, how are you liking the hrt? I've got a recce 5 k in waiting now. I almost did the hrt but wanted lower back pressure.
Love the discussion! NERD ALERT: I design plastic injection molded parts and injection molded tools (made in the USA) are between $35K on the cheap end for smaller/simpler parts (like the HRF magwell parts) but can be up into the $400K+ for really big or crazy geometries. If you're feeling frisky, you can get your molds with a side of questionable labor practices for under $10K overseas. I'm sure HRF chose to just scale up slowly with SLS 3D printers (plus they make all their other stuff with those machines) rather than go all in on a mold for one particular SKU.
I love the wide range of rifle setups that everyone is running! Especially in barrel length!
Ladies enjoy 11.5"
My favorite part was when 11.5
The tism is over 9000 in this video
Hop alone is well over level 9000 tism 🤷🏻♂️
The individual chair selections seem to match their owners. Not sure why I noticed this, I’m going to go outside now.
11.5” suppressed running 77gr OTM is hard to beat
That’s exactly what I’ve got. It’s hammered a lot of deer even out to 150 yards
Fax
7 mins in and I can already grant the gentleman on the left honorary Australian status.
Mr. Yeast and Com Truise
And lo, the mk 12 did cry unto heaven, saying, "forgive them father, for they know not what they do"
Reconfirming the fuck out of my 11.5 URGI black friday purchase last year gentlemen.
Thank you.
Man what the fuck last week it was 14.5 supremacy
Next week it’s 18
14.5 has always sucked
14.5 is only good for legal compliance
Honey, it’s time for another AR build to keep up with your favorite influencers’ opinions
I'm a 16in bitch, best of most worlds, waiting for a 14.5 tho
"EOTechs are known for not breaking"
👀
Say that again in a different way
I’m glad that hop can explain why he doesn’t need backup irons here where on TFBTV he just gets cut off
Based and 11.5 pilled
I liked the part with the 11.5" AR
i recently put together an 11.5" (that i run a k-can on to take the edge off) and it's in my trunk every range trip
Glad I’m not the only one putting optics on risers because of the d2
If you're not running a Unity mount on top of a Goobers riser are you even operating?
welcome to the cope gang. Rich enough to want a good laser. To poor to afford a mawl.
@@novagroup2Surefire UVL2 over here. Mawl is out of my range.
10.3 flex in the crowd! RC2 mini FTW
13.7 gang on suicide watch
Always have been. Seeking out a special barrel length just to fit a special muzzle device _just to throw a suppressor on it_ ? They weren't in a good headspace from the start.
@@ALovelyBunchOfDragonballzor they’re just seeking out a “rifle” that’s less than 16” while not requiring a $200 permission slip?
@@msquared9605 thats what a 14.5 is for. The 13.7 is a length specifically for the SOLGW NOX device, a device thats first and foremost a suppressor mount with overly long tines.
Looking at a ballistics chart made it obvious to me early on that 11.5" is the minimum you want to go, and will do most of what you want.
10.5 is the minimum for ar's but clearly it comes with drawbacks. Truly anything less is detrimental to ballistic performance and longevity of the weapon system. I would not consider a 10.5 a do-all rifle, but with mk262 or like ammo it's very good within closer distances
Agreed, anything less then 11.5 with 223/556 is kinda meh
12.5 is better because you get a sizeable FPS gain in the loadings that actually matter. I'm getting 2580 with 77gr and 2750 with 62gr. 11.5 testing shows a loss of ~100fps for each loading compared to 12.5. from 12.5>14.5, velocity gains were 25fps in the 77gr and 30 fps in the 62gr.
Ammo used was the Black Hills tmk, and Federal Fusion MSR.
Almost like a video detailing the guns that y’all keep instead of the experiments. I’d love to see this for some of the other systems yall keep on hand. Like checking in on the guns yall kept after the review/experiment
Flatline FiberCo slings are the way. Nothing groundbreaking, they just fucking work.
Love mine, glad I bought one on the Hop/Brass recommendation. Throw some BFG QD swivels on it and you're cooking.
Hey now, a lot of people say that a 10.5" is perfectly adequate, if not big at times...right?
Yeah babe, the big ones hurt anyway
You having flashbacks of the showers in basic training? Lol
"But 12.5s are what everyone on the Internet says is the best because it's as short as a 10.3 and has as much velocity as a 14.5!"
I love my BCM 11.5. I'd love to see a video expanding on the use of a Flow 556K on an 11.5. If I ever buy a can, that would probably be the one.
Saw this just in time for my sbr build. Had 11.5 on my mind and now I’m thinking it’ll be the perfect length for me 🤙
12" is better because it has slightly better velocity while still being the same length as 10.5"
the correct way to make your gun look cool is black but with tan stock, grip, and optics
EDIT: real ones chicken wire their shit to their rails
Paint the rifle, paint everything
@@1stidvet553 I've got a painted rifle and I think the black and tan is more aesthetic. My rail covers are tan as well so it looks absolutely perfect
I was sent a Criterion 12.5 by mistake and was going to send it back until the internet told me that 12.5 is the same as 11.5, but with more velocity.
@@JosephWhales 14.5 is the same as 12.5 but with more velocity
@@JosephWhales im extremely jealous of a free 12.5 criterion.
I actually don't think there's a meaningful difference between 12.5 and 11.5 and either is good
My 11.5" Build is a GAU/5/A/A no forward assist A1 sight's, Brownells Retro 1-12 chrome lined barrel, 4½" XM-177E2 flash hider, Black Nitride M-16 MPI/HPT Bolt Carrier, Stoned and polished milspec LPK, A1 grip, Essential Arms aluminum CAR stock on 6 position buffer tube with H2 weight, and SOPMOD BLOCK1 Kit and a PEQ-15. It's pretty Bitch'n for around the farm and in the woods busting hogs all night under NOD's but with the classic style of a 1967 Ford Mustang.
Time for a Nova nap in the shad of Hop. Noice!
I think the Velos is one of the best cans to come out in the past few years. Getting the entire family lineup now.
11.5 is the way.
11.5 is also my primary rifle length of choice, perfect for general purpose use.
11.5" Faxon Mid Length Barrel with an adjustable gas block, Full Auto BCG, H3 Buffer, with a Geissele Super 42 Spring. You're welcome.
11 point fucking 5 fucking fucks. Love 11.5!
(Patrick Bateman Voice)
Nice, very nice.
Now let's see Paul Allen's 11.5
Hell yeah Flatline Fiber Co
Love my 11.5 DD and the Hux 556K.
just got my SOLGW 11.5 m76, with aero ambi lower. Love it
Its nice to see such diversity in your crew! Hope his Tourette will be okay!
You guys go train and are very knowledgeable about your stuff. I envy your nerdy conversations about the details of your equipment!
I love my 12.5, its got as much velocity as a 14.5 and just as long as a 11.5
Team Geissele right here. Never had an issue, don't worried about an issue! a running machine!!
Great video. Love hearing about peoples builds especially 11.5s.
I thought Hop was only working with a 4”
depends on the lighting and camera angle.
I really enjoy seeing people running the URGI . Like seeing peoples diffrent setups
12:00 using the shot timer as a brass deflector 😅
Brass. Your alcoholism is admirable. We salute you.
11.5 vs 11.5 vs 11.5
Geezuz
Maybe a 13.9 or 9"?
Blaming it on the poor beer choices
Just playin.
Y'all have an amazing weekend
Fuck, this funny. Good talk, guys. Thanks for the content.
finally someone joined 11.5 + fullsize polo gang. I run a colt 11.5 barrel with a superlative arms gas block, shoots like a dream
I wish I had an 11.5 , but I’ve only got a 7.
hey quick question what glasses is the dude in the middle running?
I just got a Witt Machine 5.56 can. It’s a little heavy but fairly effective. What do you think of this silencer?
11.5 is my fav ❤
You guys crack me up. Looks fun. Cheers!
50 second mark; mag in, drinking beer, literally flags the dude's face to his right
CAT WB silencer, compared to my hux 556k gas is maybe 10% more if that, significantly better sound compared to a hux especially to bystanders. I’d say it sounds similar to the full sized polonium when standing next to it, but way more pleasant to actually shoot. 5.45”, 718 weighs 13oz. Got to get the 718 though, friend has a titanium and it reached max operating temperature around a dozen rounds of range 55g, took about 5 minutes to cool down to under 150 where cat says to shoot again for the firing schedule heat test they recommend.
The CAT cans are just bonkers.
I agree about the CAT, I wish I would have waited last year and got one instead of the KAC PRT or HUX Flow cans. My buddy has the WB 718 and it's insane how well it performs in a short package
Did you have to tune your rifle for it?
@@fightmilk8613 only DI guns I've used it a lot on is an LMT 12.5 mid length and a URGI 14.5'', everything stock and it's not very gassy at all, URGI is maybe a little bit more gas. like I said if the Hux or something like the sig SLX is a 10/10 on reduced gas, this is a solid 8.5, I'm sure if i wanted to I could make it even better, but I've never gotten gassed out, even indoors it's fine. I've also run it on a Type A piston 11.5'' that I own with adjustable gas and you can make it even less gassy. I've yet to try it on a short carbine length DI gun yet.
@@fightmilk8613 I haven’t run it on a gun where it hasn’t cycled yet. I never really shoot cheap underpowered ammo though and I’m sure you can find a build where it would be unreliable. To date I’ve shot it on, an 11.5 type A piston upper, 12.5 LMT DI, 14.5 urgi upper, and a B&T APC 223 12.5”. The type I didn’t bother adjusting the gas at all, whatever it was on before ran fine with minimal gas, but I ran my hux 556k exclusively on that before. On the LMT it has their stock carbine spring and an H2 buffer, very little gas can run really fast strings of fire and not get gassed out, there’s definitely noticeable gas, but it’s not making my eyes water. Should be noted LMT’s 12.5 mid length gas system is a proprietary design that’s very well done, so it’s kind of hard to compare it to a more standard mid length 12.5. URGI at 14.5 has a springco red and H2 and it runs fine with the WB, this is probably the most gassy of all the setups I’ve run it on, but again not making your eyes water and very pleasant to shoot. Theres a lot that goes into gas dynamics escapist shooting suppressed though, lots of variables to account for best to do your own testing. While it’s not fair to compare a cat with surge bypass directly to a traditioanl flow through design like the Hux, B&T RBS, SIG SLx or RC3 designs it’s still a similar concept except the cat technology really helps to restrict late time flow for significantly better signature reduction especially to bystanders, that’s really where you notice the biggest difference comspred to other flow throughs. Behind the gun they are all similarly “loud”, but cat seems to have a deeper tone if that makes sense.
Are the geissele uppers really that heavy? Compared to what?
All three are on the spectrum
"The flow doesnt have any downsides"
Genuine question brassfacts, as a left handed shooter why not invest in some left side eject uppers?
Looked like those optics and the placement of them were causing the stove pipes on those AKs
Hunter Biden has better taste in guns than Hop.
- James Reeves 06/10/24
Has Hop defended himself *yet?* Now I gotta go check...
Hold up. What AK’s are you all running? Genuinely curious be you all are trying to say that they aren’t reliable
That's hilarious when I was able to shoot out to 400 we had 8in plates at 3 and 400 and it was no problem with my 11.5 and my 308 gas gun i had All kinds of trouble getting hits just because I didn't know where to hold like you said all kinds of trouble and it's what your familiar with!
Meeting of the minds
Or lack of
"Umpf"; the measure of Gumption
The 11.5 with EoTech and magnifier is my favorite setup. But I like to run the EoTech with a front sight post. Once tried it that way I don’t like running it without. Plus in the event of the optic going down you can be very accurate using the EoTech housing as a as a huge ghost ring. It works. I guess painting cans is not a problem. That polonium is painted. I’ve heard painting them is a no go but Ive seen a bunch of painted cans. I’ve also never had any of my painted barrels smoke. Probably gonna paint my black RC3.
“ If shit kicks off while we’re out here” Is the single stupidest fucking thing I’ve heard on the Internet in years
According to the gunsmith guy on one of the last art and war podcast episodes. geissele is way better than dd as dd is only a milspec barrel. Criterion is next in below geissele in terms of quality and accuracy.
What the F did these guys do to an AK to make it not function?!?
bought american
they bought a PSA AK
ARs are just better than AKs
Bought an ak
Spent 1k+ on PSA guns instead of the same thing from WBP, FB, or a WASR.
So I should go with CHF Noveske barrel over stainless?
Probably 💯
Eotechs being proven...ignoring the photos and issues online as well as the lawsuits.
Why do so many ppl like surefire lights when modlite specs seem better? (Im new to firearms)
"colours has to match, everyone knows that"
guy on the left immediately confirms he has a two tone gun
The magazine must always match the furniture.
I like this kind of video just sitting around talking about your rifles
Hop's clearly never shot a CAT WB if he thinks the HUX is the only one that doesn't make your gun worse...
What kind of gloves was mustache wearing in his shooting clips? Brown leather lookin almost
Truly🍺 Stella conversation on short barreled ARs.. outfitted by your fine 🤣 generation...
Just some dudes loving their Guns.....America!!🇺🇸
Just put together a 12.5 with Riflespeed gas system and black accents poking out through the Fifty Shades of OD Green(my 16.5 build is in FDE) because after my experience at 29 Palms I will NEVER deal with a black rifle in the sun again. This build WILL eventually be wearing a SIG 4XT/Juliet4 combo, but until then Holosun will do. The can and active IR unit will eventually all be 3D printed out of PCTG like the lower and all the furniture- the can out of inconnel from Virtual Foundry, the IR unit cast in aluminum using 3d printed investment - because I'm an insane DiYer.
For a followup I'm building a .45ACP PCC that doesn't take glock mags, and a doublestack 1911 that doesn't take Stacatto mags. I'm not limited to what I can buy because I have CNC machines and I'm not afraid to use them.
Middy or carbine? I did a 12.5 middy as a shorty version of my 16" middy. They have the same handguard, light, foregrip, light, all of it.
Would you guys consider testing some of the optic/LAM risers? Like the OMM or HRF Skiff?
I just wanna know what glasses my boy on the left was wearing
20” or nothing, the way god intended.