I think Hard Rock is already in the $500 range. So, that sounds about right as a starting point for Helios. One day, fortune may smile upon you and you're bringing us a video from your room at Helios. Thanks for the video!
I actually wouldn’t be shocked if there is a $600-$700 rack rate for it. One day I believe you’ll be right and hopefully we will make some videos from our room there
Awesome information, at first I never liked the idea of a commercial hotel as a center piece to the park, but this sounds like they really put in the effort to make it add to the theming and experience~ Hope the leaked details are true. I wonder if they will let guests to the park enter the hotel just to look around? I'm guessing not since it's a special entrance into the park from the hotel, and not just an open path.
I have that question as well cause if they let everyone into the hotel to just wonder around it could cause a lot of logistical issues for the hotel staff… but then again they would make a lot of money on food, drinks, etc
Lowe’s does an incredible job tbh. Portofino bay feels like you’re in another country and they didn’t try to theme much other than an Italian vibe. Given the time, effort, thought and funding going into Helios, I’d say it will be the best theme park hotel in America if they do it right.
Long as it is in line with Hard Rock Cafe I have no problem, but the only concern I have is with the hotel being in park…meaning in terms of needing to leave to get other food, personal items etc. how will we be able to move about…..
The original source of the leak wasn't there any longer but Orlando Theme Park Zone does have this article: orlandothemeparkzone.com/2024/01/30/concept-art-for-helios-grand-hotel-at-epic-universe-emerges-online/
Do you think Express pass from Hard Rock etc will apply to Epic Universe? Or will they have a separate set of tickets and express pass for Epic? Do you think they will expand to 4 park tickets and AP?
We stay at the Portofino Bay at Universal & at the cheapest time of year it is around $425 a night. That does include express pass and we never have to rent a car we get picked up & then use the water taxi (which I Love) to City Walk & the parks. They have more than one pool, restaurants on site & the resort is beautiful, rooms are very nice & employees very friendly & helpful. Yes it is expensive but for a vacation most people spend more than they normally do & when going to the parks know it isn’t cheap. I was amazed at the prices for the two new hotels right in front of Epic Universe, they are a good price. Universal is doing lots of things great & making the hotel prices not so high is a great way to keep them full & pull in even more people. They are pricing them so families can afford them. Are You Listening Disney?? I think the Helios hotel will be comparable in price with the other premium hotels & probably the most expensive because it is new & sounds like there will be added interaction for hotel guests so it adds to the whole experience.
I agree with everything you said about the Universal hotels. We are actually staying at Surfside this evening and the staff, food and service has been great. Universal had said a few years ago they were willing to price the hotels “at a loss” (which they probably aren’t actually but just below market value) to increase market share. I think that plan is working and more people are giving them a try
@@capthemagic ya I checked the price for these two new hotels and they are reasonable and affordable. My son wants to go to universal this year but I told about the new land with new Harry Potter land and rides which open 2025. So he agrees to go to Disney world this year with me lol and 2025 we are going to stay in the new hotel at Christmas.
Not sure exactly what you’re referring to. If it was where I said the Starcruiser comes to mind I was just commenting on the idea of it being a heavily themed hotel with a story
I think it will be closer to Animal kingdom prices so $750 a night on the high side an $550on the low side. But if it where$900 a night I think it would still always be full. I started saving at the $900 a night price.
@@capthemagic I think people will plan a trip to Orlando for Epic Universe but stay for Studios and IOA as well, so if anything, I strongly believe the crowds will increase at all nearby parks as well. Pretty sure Disney is banking on this, and that's why at their earnings call they didn't confirm a 5th gate, but instead talked about expanding capacity at their existing parks.
This is why Universal has been adding things to their existing parks to try and spread our crowds with new things IMO. I’ve also said for a long time that Disney doesn’t need a 5th gate as they can do a lot in their existing parks with updated and new attractions.
Definitely possible. If I were to guess the rack rate would probably be something like $999.99 if they go up that high and not actually hit the $1k per night number… but that’s just a guess
The reason the Star Wars hotel failed was because of the price. That's it. The average person does not have $5000+ to spend for 2 days. That in no way is practical or sustainable. Now it would have been different if certain rooms had that price point but that wasn't the situation.
This is why I said at the beginning that we can’t confirm this is true information and it’s called “a leak” as it seems it may have come from the hotel design team that was instructed internally that they wanted a “inhabitable Disney Castle” of sorts. Sure, publically they would never say that but internally companies do stuff like that all time as they get inspiration and ideas from competitors
I've been following this park since inception, and I've never heard of some of the information brought up by the leak. Sure he goes over other things around the leak that we already knew, but the main point is the new details from the leak which allows additional speculation.
I think Hard Rock is already in the $500 range. So, that sounds about right as a starting point for Helios. One day, fortune may smile upon you and you're bringing us a video from your room at Helios. Thanks for the video!
I actually wouldn’t be shocked if there is a $600-$700 rack rate for it. One day I believe you’ll be right and hopefully we will make some videos from our room there
@@capthemagicyes this is their grand Floridian
Except probably better IMO lol
Awesome information, at first I never liked the idea of a commercial hotel as a center piece to the park, but this sounds like they really put in the effort to make it add to the theming and experience~ Hope the leaked details are true. I wonder if they will let guests to the park enter the hotel just to look around? I'm guessing not since it's a special entrance into the park from the hotel, and not just an open path.
I have that question as well cause if they let everyone into the hotel to just wonder around it could cause a lot of logistical issues for the hotel staff… but then again they would make a lot of money on food, drinks, etc
Lowe’s does an incredible job tbh. Portofino bay feels like you’re in another country and they didn’t try to theme much other than an Italian vibe.
Given the time, effort, thought and funding going into Helios, I’d say it will be the best theme park hotel in America if they do it right.
Agree on Lowe’s hotels. I do think Helios is going to be something Disney will eventually copy and do a similar type of hotel in the future
They've already have Disney's Grand Destino Tower, Disney's Riviera Resort, Tokyo DisneySeas Fanatasy Springs Resort Opening Summer 2024
I’m too broke to go but I still can’t wait to see what this ends up being like inside 😂
Maybe they’ll give the rest of us a viewing window to see what’s going on in there 🤣🤣
Long as it is in line with Hard Rock Cafe I have no problem, but the only concern I have is with the hotel being in park…meaning in terms of needing to leave to get other food, personal items etc. how will we be able to move about…..
If I were to guess it'll be probably closer in line with Grand Floridian pricing and I'm curious as well about the details like you mentioned.
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The original source of the leak wasn't there any longer but Orlando Theme Park Zone does have this article: orlandothemeparkzone.com/2024/01/30/concept-art-for-helios-grand-hotel-at-epic-universe-emerges-online/
Will they offer express pass?
No word officially but I’m sure it will include Xpress Pass with your stay
Do you think Express pass from Hard Rock etc will apply to Epic Universe? Or will they have a separate set of tickets and express pass for Epic? Do you think they will expand to 4 park tickets and AP?
How much do you think each night will cost? $1000-1500? Park view and reservations to the upstairs bar. I’m down!
It’s definitely possible. If I were to guess I would say around $700ish perhaps? With theme park view that comes with a hefty price tag I’m sure
It would cost me$ 3,762 for 5 nights probably $4k . Hmm 1.5k over budget .😢 I'll probably go in 2026 new years week less crowd by that time
We stay at the Portofino Bay at Universal & at the cheapest time of year it is around $425 a night. That does include express pass and we never have to rent a car we get picked up & then use the water taxi (which I Love) to City Walk & the parks. They have more than one pool, restaurants on site & the resort is beautiful, rooms are very nice & employees very friendly & helpful. Yes it is expensive but for a vacation most people spend more than they normally do & when going to the parks know it isn’t cheap.
I was amazed at the prices for the two new hotels right in front of Epic Universe, they are a good price. Universal is doing lots of things great & making the hotel prices not so high is a great way to keep them full & pull in even more people. They are pricing them so families can afford them.
Are You Listening Disney??
I think the Helios hotel will be comparable in price with the other premium hotels & probably the most expensive because it is new & sounds like there will be added interaction for hotel guests so it adds to the whole experience.
I agree with everything you said about the Universal hotels. We are actually staying at Surfside this evening and the staff, food and service has been great.
Universal had said a few years ago they were willing to price the hotels “at a loss” (which they probably aren’t actually but just below market value) to increase market share. I think that plan is working and more people are giving them a try
@@capthemagic exactly. They bring people/families in at reasonable prices & they tell others & then return again & again.
How much you reckon it would cost to stay there for 2 weeks? I’m planing on coming all the way from Scotland again 🏴 🇺🇸
I’d say close to $7-8k if I were to guess
@@capthemagic crazy prices 9 of us came from Scotland to Orlando in October for the villa flights and park tickets it was 17k all in lol
😳😳
“More than I can afford” is my best guess. Hope I’m wrong (I won’t be)
I know what you mean lol
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Wonder if they’ll have a military discount
They currently offer military discounts at some of their hotels at least so there is a good chance they will
LET ME IN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I wish I could use the GIF of the guy trying to get into a gate lol
Imagine disneys castle being a hotel lol essentially this is what they are doing having a huge center piece building
I am too poor for luxury hotel like this one but the other two new hotels’ price seems still within my price range
I hear ya. The other 2 hotels you can book stays at now actually. We have a stay at each one booked, it’s around the $200ish a night range.
@@capthemagic ya I checked the price for these two new hotels and they are reasonable and affordable. My son wants to go to universal this year but I told about the new land with new Harry Potter land and rides which open 2025. So he agrees to go to Disney world this year with me lol and 2025 we are going to stay in the new hotel at Christmas.
That’s awesome! Hope you guys have fun!
The idea that people would just go to the star cruiser and think it was just a hotel with no interactivity is just . . . I have no words
Not sure exactly what you’re referring to. If it was where I said the Starcruiser comes to mind I was just commenting on the idea of it being a heavily themed hotel with a story
Hopefully they can build a hogwarts hotel next
I have theorized this as a home run of an idea for years now! It would never be empty lol
If this place doesn't come with Peacock in all the rooms I'm gonna be pissed!
I think it will be closer to Animal kingdom prices so $750 a night on the high side an $550on the low side. But if it where$900 a night I think it would still always be full. I started saving at the $900 a night price.
That’s very possible
I love your empty shelves!
They’ll be full soon enough lol
I wonder how empty universal and ioa will be when eu opens the first month
I’ve wondered the same thing lol
@@capthemagic I think people will plan a trip to Orlando for Epic Universe but stay for Studios and IOA as well, so if anything, I strongly believe the crowds will increase at all nearby parks as well. Pretty sure Disney is banking on this, and that's why at their earnings call they didn't confirm a 5th gate, but instead talked about expanding capacity at their existing parks.
This is why Universal has been adding things to their existing parks to try and spread our crowds with new things IMO.
I’ve also said for a long time that Disney doesn’t need a 5th gate as they can do a lot in their existing parks with updated and new attractions.
@@capthemagic I definitely dont want disney to make another park its so unnecessary like just fix what u already have lol
Agreed
I’m going with my baby Adi haha
700-1200 per night !!
Definitely possible. If I were to guess the rack rate would probably be something like $999.99 if they go up that high and not actually hit the $1k per night number… but that’s just a guess
The reason the Star Wars hotel failed was because of the price. That's it. The average person does not have $5000+ to spend for 2 days. That in no way is practical or sustainable. Now it would have been different if certain rooms had that price point but that wasn't the situation.
IMO it's a multitude of things to point to for it failing but price as definitely part of the reason no doubt
Buddy. That description is so fake. The company would never reference Disney in the description of one of their products.
This is why I said at the beginning that we can’t confirm this is true information and it’s called “a leak” as it seems it may have come from the hotel design team that was instructed internally that they wanted a “inhabitable Disney Castle” of sorts. Sure, publically they would never say that but internally companies do stuff like that all time as they get inspiration and ideas from competitors
nah they could its just a conversation with the manufacturer/ client so it mskes sense
its a hotel. has rooms for people to sleep in. 500 of them. not much to know
Ok 🤣🤣
I’m the daughter I’m not lying
Huh?
@@capthemagic so basically my dad is working there and I’m his daughter
Great video, but we've known all this information for a year now.
I've been following this park since inception, and I've never heard of some of the information brought up by the leak. Sure he goes over other things around the leak that we already knew, but the main point is the new details from the leak which allows additional speculation.
Are you psychic then smartarse 😂
@suaveclt If the info has been out there I haven’t come across it prior to this info