I think this is one of my new fav rugby shows from an AB’s supporter. You guys just tell it like it is. Watch the Breakdown or kiwi rugby shows and most people on there are afraid to speak their minds or speak the truth and it’s frustrating to watch. Well done gents👌🏼
One benefit of the Mt Smart test for Bokke coaches was they recognized the folly of starting the match with Marx and PSDT on the bench. Sia was also absent that day so it was a very different Bok side that played at Twickenham. AB fan and I am resentfully nodding my head at the commentary here as you are right, the 8 men up front win you the test, the backs determine by how much
This was an amazing episode. very blunt and insightful. we have to see reality otherwise we are doomed. I hope Jeff Wilson watches this. And Malcolm being injured is beyond devastating
I’m loving you guys and your honesty because I can handle the truth I’ve got my big boy pants on. We play and watch rugby because it is potentially dangerous not inspite of it. The rewards far out-way the potential risks just like in real life Cheers guys keep it up Go the All Blacks
Agree 100% with this. Pollard can even play 15, giving us drop goal options that we always had in world cups. And then move to 12 or 10 with a willemse or willie coming on later in the game
Hes on the bench for the Leicester Tigers tonight...get some game time under his belt for a Bok call up next week...maybe even a run off the bench against Ireland then, all going well, latest ready for the Tonga game...following which we are the only probable qualifying playoff side with two prep weeks for the Qtrs...the other teams will all have had theirs during the pool stages, interestingly.
The head contact analysis is spot on. The world has become so risk adverse that there is no willingness to try anything and challenge yourself! This will have a devastating impact on people's resilience and mental health.
To concur with the comment below ... so good! This has become THE best rugby show amongst the many I watch. We need a bit of light-hearted banter and the ability to give other teams a hard time without all this sensitiveness. Give some jabs but also take it. The nay-sayers take you guys way too seriously and at the same time overlook the wealth of knowledge and experience you have.
I was also at that 1999 semi - great game! Had a NZ supporter in front of us who took great delight in telling us early on our team was going home that night… but it was tight! And I was pleased the All Blacks lost the next day - wish I could have seen his face.
I feel if the head-contact is an accident, only incidental with no intent to harm, no cards please. Thanks for a really fantastic program. The wealth of knowledge and humour displayed by Keo and Zels make this probably the best rugby show out there and definately worthwhile to subscribe to.
The whole thing that makes a World Cup worth watching is that the minnows play each other as well as the big boys. If you just want to watch the tier one nations , we get that every year with the autumn tests, 6 nations and championship. Just watch the smaller teams and enjoy it for what it is. Also it really helps expose rugby in less rugby max countries
That’s a bad take. They should have two world cups. Tier 1 and 2. Run them both at the same time and let the tier 2 nations play for something, while also raising the stakes for the tier 1 nations. These takes about how beneficial it is for tier 2 nations is beyond stupidity.
Zels' short paragraph on what skill and flare is in Rugby,absolutely spot on. A true connoisseur of rugby will truly understand and appreciate all styles of Rugby....The beauty of a proper kick battle, a clash of titans amongst the forwards and of course a no-look pass and goose step all these things offer different entertainment value.....we watch sport for unscripted entertainment ,this nonsense blanket approach of saying running rugby is the future is BS!
Agree to some degree. It’s no secret that travel for the SA teams did give the Aussie and kiwi teams some advantages. That said at club level nz teams are way ahead of other clubs
I'm a Kiwi, love the ABs AND I agree with all your criticisms! And Steve Hansen became the High Priest of throw it around! And his apprentice Fozzy is still trying to do it! Keep up the banter! Love it!!!
In regards to your thoughts about head injury rules and laws . WHY dont they make head gear ( like Kolbe) compulsory for all players ? Then they can relax a bit ... nobody is talking about this possibility .
I think the Boks management team are waiting to see how this team handles Romania. If van Stadden and/or Deon Fourie do not perform well, then they may bring in Dweba, otherwise they will risk with Pollard. Pollard may be brought in because of Libbok's lackluster kicking performance, but if that happens we are undermining Libbok's confidence. Dweba should be picked ASAP, because Romania will not be a great test for Deon Fourie at hooker and they risk damaging the 5 meter lineouts/mauls which is something everyone fears. If Deon Fourie comes in as part of the bomb squad and he starts missing the jumpers, then all of a sudden you have uncertainty at 10 and a disaster at 2. Bring Dweba, it will provide RWC experience and by recent calls he is the 3rd hooker. Trust Libbok and with only 10 tests to his name mistakes will happen and they need to help him during tough matches. I don't like the fact that the 6-2 or 7-1 split forces players to play out of positions consistently. I know that this is a game of forwards first and foremost, but to not replace a Hooker for a Flyhalf that can kick, seems a mistake. Trust the people you have picked. I sometimes think Rassie/Nieanaber love to micromanage everything. If it wins a RWC great, but if they don't then they will have a problem sooner or later. This uncertainty certainly changes the odds for the Boks.
I think you are right. Think they are waiting to see how Willemse and Faf perform at flyhalf. Then how Fourie performs at hooker. Whichever position is more at risk with coverage gets the replacement. I for one think it should be a hooker replacement. Dweba has his moments where he can't throw. In that case similar with Manie, get someone else to do that job. For now we need scrum cover. Need to maintain that set piece dominance.
Dweba is the player with the most scew line out throws in the URC which is why I think they are not backing him. Specifically for those 5m throws we need someone that can throw straight even if they aren't as good at scrumming and carrying as Dweba, because the props can pick up some of the slack there.
@@tappie34 if that is the case they should have taken 1 or 2 other hookers instead of Dweba to step in if an injury eventuated. Then again who knows how long van Staden and Fourie have been training as a back up
@@tappie34 That is true. I would still favour Dweba, but you do have a very good point. Those 5m lineouts has been our favourite attacking weapon. It would be interesting to see how many tries have been scored by the Boks from there. Over 40%?
@@PauloJorgeMonteiro Very high conversion rate especially this last year with the additional variations out the back and on the blind. I agree with evan, we should have been building a bit more depth there and dumped Dweba earlier when the issue with throwing became aparent.
Excellent summary of what rugby is - the one thing we English know is that we'd sure as $hit kick the ball over the top of the Boks with rugby intellect than try and run through them!
Yea I’m a Saffa and I dunno why these okes are talking like we’re invincible. France and Ireland and even the Islanders could match our physicality no problem. Marx is a massive loss but I reckon if we stick to our strengths and keep our discipline in games we’ve still got a great shout to bring it home 🔥
@Keo, on citings, agreed with sentiments on intent, maybe throw in the reckless element there, then you have a great combo to keep discipline intact. Barbaric game played by gentlemen. Loving the show!
Marco Van Basten Van Staden is not a giggle. He's built like Marx. Similar skill-set in jackaling and ball carrying. He needs to work on scrumming and throwing in. Simple.
I think scrummaging he’s fine but line out throwing is a different beast, it took Marx years to perfect it when he converted to Hooker. Even Bongi throws skew at times and he’s a 60+ test campaigner
I like your way of thinking. He is Marx-esque in stature and playing style but I agree that it may be a little bit of a dice rolling getting him to throw with little track record. UNLESS Rassie And Jacques have been cooking up some secret training for him but I doubt it with bongi and Deon both covering for nr2. Eish not a bad problem to have if we’re even entertaining these thoughts. Just shows what a stroke of genius our squad depth strategy is. Could be what separates us from the rest of the best teams
Not a joker at all. I take my rugby fandom very seriously. There's a reason why Van Staden is being considered at 2. He's built like a hooker and plays a lot like Marx does.his core stability is insane so he can suit scrumming in the front row. The throwing in I agree is no joke, but, he has the opportunity to work on it. My other choice would be to draft in Grobbelaar who also plays a similar game with strong hooker fundamentals. I'll say it again through, Marco has the attributes needed. Review his hi-lights package and you'll see. @@71bootneck
Boks have good strength in depth up front to take a hit or 2...World rugby would be better off helping tier 1 nations to get A team calender to play tier 2 nations instead of hoping they'll magically get better every 4 years
The Hulk marx out is the biggest blow ever, no matter who they bring in I can't see a difference, now this limits our chances of going thru, it's gonna be very tough now
Pollard is welcome back and take the kicks as long as Manie can start as well. Our backline is finally firing in a way that we seldom did with Pollard at 10.
It's one thing to say that people accept the risks when they play rugby, it's entirely another when what the player does on the field is owned by someone else who doesn't risk their health, but takes the majority of the profit made by the player on the field. Also, maybe a rugby player once chose to play and take the risk, but when you become a professional player you no longer have a choice, because if you don't work you don't eat.
WE have Dr Danie Craven to thank. hes foundations and principle philosophy that rugby is a simple game , you just have to do it right. Back in the 80s we were the best even though we were isolated. keep up the good work and stay humble
This is a long shot, but could the reason behind NZ and Australia's down fall be down to South Africa leaving Super Rugby? The SA teams and players play in Europe against European stars (European rugby starting to dominate the sport), so they learn their tactics and their weaknesses. I dunno, just a thought
I wonder why nobody is speaking about the “chop” tackles anymore - early in the Scotland game, Sous gets chopped with a no arms, shoulder dive into his knees. Not a peep about it. Now that is a Red card offence. Not these ridiculous head bumps that is ruining the wonderfully physical game we all love.
Yes bring back the spear tackle like the off the ball neck breaker on O'Driscoll in 2009, not looked at by the ref or TMO, not cited afterwards, the AB coach stating it was nothing, we should just forget it and move on. Just loving the idea of cheering on a player being put in a wheelchair.
I actually agree with you that the head contact issue is farcical, head contact is inevitable, I feel that intentional foul play would be an easier issue to determine, such as a no arms shoulder to the head, this is likely an insurance directive, an attempt to reduce insurance claims. I watch motorcycle road racing and they were forced to put stupid chicanes in place inorder to meet insurance costs.
The guys were funny in the last episode. I like them but now they are arrogant towards the other teams. Beware if the bocks are out in the quarters. Eventhough the game analysis is right ( mostly)
If Pollard is back then we definitely winning against Ireland 🇮🇪, we missed lots of penalties chances, however the guys who stepped in they did their best but we all know what Pollard can do, go Bokkie, bring it home .
A little bit harsh to say that the Aussie Super teams are just ice cream. The Cheetahs just recently struggled to overcome the lowest ranked franchise in the competition i.e. The Western Force.
Im an all blacks fan and i usually hate-watch this show just to see the worst examples of SA fandom and hubris (love it). Today though you are so absolutely spot on about the allblacks and what's wrong with them i wish i could put it in an info packet and send it to nzru. Great thoughts and analysis as usual. ABs are down now but im hoping for some renewal in the next cycle. All blacks by ten!
Losing Marx sucks, but I would rather have Pollard than Dweba. We still have the top 2 best forward packs in the world even without Marx. But gaining a reliable place kicker can make a much bigger difference than having a hooker specialist
Ever heard about a weak hooker being separated from the loosehead and both the opposition tighthead and hooker scrumming against him?Is Deon Fourie strong enough?
Our Boks does have deep depth and it looks like the only team that can really stand up against that physicality is ourself in training looking at how our guys getting injured
This isn't to sound arrogant but Ireland have beaten the boks with Marx and Ethzebeth before the Bok's will obviously qualify but that Ireland was always going to be a real test.
Pollard may or may not come back........remember what Nienaber said......only if there was an injury to one of the flyhalfs would Pollard be considered to return for the Boks.....besides....we have Deon Fourie and apparently Marco Van Staden who has been practising the position of N02 as cover for both Fourie and Bongi so I highly doubt that Pollard will make an entrance in the 2023 World Cup
Nienaber also said that any injury in the back row would be replaced by a midfield back. The bokke camp are constantly putting out contradictory statements.
fully agree with how officials need to call these head clashes, and to be fully honest in my humble opinion, how has it even become a part of the law because there is just no way around it. a high forearm to the neck upwards is always easy to see if its intentional and is absolutely thuggery even if its accidental. because there's a skill gap there or just bad discipline on any defender's quick reaction when you are already beaten. a head clash is never intentional but always accidental because you don't need a skill to be tough or rough laying your body on the line when we play in the name of Rugby. this topic has never sat right with me after watching Angus Ta'avao getting a red for the Irish & AB test last year in Dunedin. absolutely ridiculous by these tiddly winks officials and an embarrassment to try solidifying any argument in these scenarios. if player chooses to play then continue the game, depending on the severity of the injury then you should make the call to send him for a HIA which covers player safety. instead, you give a red which is an atrocious decision that kills all fairness for rivals to battle on the biggest stage of their athletic carriers and a chance at lifting the ultimate goal writing history. this call from officials is criminal beyond a reasonable doubt that WR needs to relinquish this law effective immediately.
Well said gents. So tiered of pundits who try to not hurt feelings. Call it as it is. As of right now SA, Ireland and the French are front runners. The rest are just competing. Can this change, sure. But not likely.
I would like everyone's opinion, is pollard the choice because he hasn't seen game time. And yes manie is not at full strength missing kicks but in my opinion shouldn't we stick to someone who has been performing
Zelim being a bell-end at 40:10. You must seriously be blind or hopelessly biased to say that DDA is better than Esterhuizen. DDA fluffed some wonderful passing opportunities against Scotland, but these guys are such big fans of domkrag rugby.
Gents, my opinion on the overzealous "safety" protocols is that history will likely repeat itself. Like rugby league and union split due to disagreements, so will this eventually. The elite rugby bureaucrats are appeasing non rugby enthusiasts and changing what rugby looks like in the name of safety. At some point, I forsee a rebel league split from World Rugby. Perhaps in the future, tag rugby will be a new international variant..
Boyz the biggest worry now is who is going to boss the breakdown? Can we slow down Ireland/France ruck and stop quick ball without Marx? If we cant slow down the breakdown and those teams get into a flow we are going to get pounded
I think Wales was a first class side but have had a few rough years recently. Welsh Rugby is having problems with its Youth System too, so hopefully you guys can sort it the issues and return to being a top team again. Good performance against Fiji (250 tackles is a heck of a lot) so maybe things are starting to get back on track again.
Ireland didn't play their best team aginst Romania, they are closer to their best team this week, likely they will be able to rest a few players against the boks! Just kidding, I think there will be 1 or 2 changes for the game on the 23rd.
Coming from a Kiwi, I couldn't agree more about the thoughts on the ABs current style of rugby. Great episode. Kia ora lads!
I pray my wife always looks at me the way Keo looks at Zelz when he does the Ricky Rodriguez impression 😍😍🤣🤣🤣
Quality riposte 😅
You said it, there's a bro-mance in the air bro lol!!
I think this is one of my new fav rugby shows from an AB’s supporter. You guys just tell it like it is. Watch the Breakdown or kiwi rugby shows and most people on there are afraid to speak their minds or speak the truth and it’s frustrating to watch. Well done gents👌🏼
One benefit of the Mt Smart test for Bokke coaches was they recognized the folly of starting the match with Marx and PSDT on the bench. Sia was also absent that day so it was a very different Bok side that played at Twickenham. AB fan and I am resentfully nodding my head at the commentary here as you are right, the 8 men up front win you the test, the backs determine by how much
Malcom out of the world cup is a real blow to the Boks, however, the depth of the squad will pull through. In Rassie I trust...
Enjoying this show so much! 🔥😄. Especially R Rodriguez! Great insight and keep it up ! 🙏🏽
Great show, coming from a New Zealander!
Kiwi here too. Currently wiping away tears hearing truth bombs. I'll never forget Owen Franks getting dropped for 2019rwc
Good to have some Kiwi’s on the pod…welcome… you will be back when Razor is in charge!
These guys are the real deal absolutely awesome, very marketable ,thanks for the entertainment and wisdom !😊
Absolute excellent commentary from zels on the head contact stuff. The whole thing feels like an attack on rugby. And yes esterhuizen to dominate haha
This was an amazing episode. very blunt and insightful. we have to see reality otherwise we are doomed. I hope Jeff Wilson watches this. And Malcolm being injured is beyond devastating
I’m loving you guys and your honesty because I can handle the truth I’ve got my big boy pants on. We play and watch rugby because it is potentially dangerous not inspite of it. The rewards far out-way the potential risks just like in real life
Cheers guys keep it up
Go the All Blacks
Pollard please...we must have a kicker for the playoffs...Libbok 10...Pollard 12...best of both worlds..
Agree 100% with this. Pollard can even play 15, giving us drop goal options that we always had in world cups. And then move to 12 or 10 with a willemse or willie coming on later in the game
This is the most perfect answer. We need what Libbok brings at 10, and that boot will be fantastic at 12. Would say Pollard is too slow for 15
Hes on the bench for the Leicester Tigers tonight...get some game time under his belt for a Bok call up next week...maybe even a run off the bench against Ireland then, all going well, latest ready for the Tonga game...following which we are the only probable qualifying playoff side with two prep weeks for the Qtrs...the other teams will all have had theirs during the pool stages, interestingly.
Best rugby show/podcast in the world. Boks by 85
The head contact analysis is spot on. The world has become so risk adverse that there is no willingness to try anything and challenge yourself! This will have a devastating impact on people's resilience and mental health.
To concur with the comment below ... so good! This has become THE best rugby show amongst the many I watch. We need a bit of light-hearted banter and the ability to give other teams a hard time without all this sensitiveness. Give some jabs but also take it. The nay-sayers take you guys way too seriously and at the same time overlook the wealth of knowledge and experience you have.
Okay, I’ll admit, Keo knows his shit.
Another good episode, cheers boys. I enjoyed the head collision discussion, agree with your summations.
I was also at that 1999 semi - great game! Had a NZ supporter in front of us who took great delight in telling us early on our team was going home that night… but it was tight! And I was pleased the All Blacks lost the next day - wish I could have seen his face.
Oaks let me just say this show is reigniting my love for the game, sheeesh keep it up!
I feel if the head-contact is an accident, only incidental with no intent to harm, no cards please. Thanks for a really fantastic program. The wealth of knowledge and humour displayed by Keo and Zels make this probably the best rugby show out there and definately worthwhile to subscribe to.
The whole thing that makes a World Cup worth watching is that the minnows play each other as well as the big boys. If you just want to watch the tier one nations , we get that every year with the autumn tests, 6 nations and championship. Just watch the smaller teams and enjoy it for what it is. Also it really helps expose rugby in less rugby max countries
Well said
That’s a bad take. They should have two world cups. Tier 1 and 2. Run them both at the same time and let the tier 2 nations play for something, while also raising the stakes for the tier 1 nations. These takes about how beneficial it is for tier 2 nations is beyond stupidity.
Facts✌🇿🇦
@@frontierlandfrank5314 France - Uraguay wouldn’t have happened and that was a cracker.
Yr show is refreshing in it's openness.
Zels' short paragraph on what skill and flare is in Rugby,absolutely spot on. A true connoisseur of rugby will truly understand and appreciate all styles of Rugby....The beauty of a proper kick battle, a clash of titans amongst the forwards and of course a no-look pass and goose step all these things offer different entertainment value.....we watch sport for unscripted entertainment ,this nonsense blanket approach of saying running rugby is the future is BS!
Don't get too carried away. We still have a long way to go.
That we do, but we stand a very good chance of winning this rwc.
Last week: Boks is a python strangling a cow.
This week: Australia Super Rugby sides are … Ice cream 😂😂😂😂
Zels just keep delivering the goodies.
If super rugby is so shit, how come bokke doesn't win the rugby championship all the time. 4 of 27 times, c'mon man
Agree to some degree. It’s no secret that travel for the SA teams did give the Aussie and kiwi teams some advantages. That said at club level nz teams are way ahead of other clubs
Another great show!! Keeping me entertained while waiting for the next game.
Great show! What a beautiful love letter to the game of Rugby!
I'm a Kiwi, love the ABs AND I agree with all your criticisms! And Steve Hansen became the High Priest of throw it around! And his apprentice Fozzy is still trying to do it! Keep up the banter! Love it!!!
In regards to your thoughts about head injury rules and laws . WHY dont they make head gear ( like Kolbe) compulsory for all players ? Then they can relax a bit ... nobody is talking about this possibility .
I don't think the scrum cap offers any protection.
I think the Boks management team are waiting to see how this team handles Romania. If van Stadden and/or Deon Fourie do not perform well, then they may bring in Dweba, otherwise they will risk with Pollard.
Pollard may be brought in because of Libbok's lackluster kicking performance, but if that happens we are undermining Libbok's confidence.
Dweba should be picked ASAP, because Romania will not be a great test for Deon Fourie at hooker and they risk damaging the 5 meter lineouts/mauls which is something everyone fears.
If Deon Fourie comes in as part of the bomb squad and he starts missing the jumpers, then all of a sudden you have uncertainty at 10 and a disaster at 2.
Bring Dweba, it will provide RWC experience and by recent calls he is the 3rd hooker.
Trust Libbok and with only 10 tests to his name mistakes will happen and they need to help him during tough matches.
I don't like the fact that the 6-2 or 7-1 split forces players to play out of positions consistently.
I know that this is a game of forwards first and foremost, but to not replace a Hooker for a Flyhalf that can kick, seems a mistake.
Trust the people you have picked.
I sometimes think Rassie/Nieanaber love to micromanage everything.
If it wins a RWC great, but if they don't then they will have a problem sooner or later.
This uncertainty certainly changes the odds for the Boks.
I think you are right. Think they are waiting to see how Willemse and Faf perform at flyhalf. Then how Fourie performs at hooker.
Whichever position is more at risk with coverage gets the replacement. I for one think it should be a hooker replacement. Dweba has his moments where he can't throw. In that case similar with Manie, get someone else to do that job. For now we need scrum cover. Need to maintain that set piece dominance.
Dweba is the player with the most scew line out throws in the URC which is why I think they are not backing him. Specifically for those 5m throws we need someone that can throw straight even if they aren't as good at scrumming and carrying as Dweba, because the props can pick up some of the slack there.
@@tappie34 if that is the case they should have taken 1 or 2 other hookers instead of Dweba to step in if an injury eventuated.
Then again who knows how long van Staden and Fourie have been training as a back up
@@tappie34 That is true.
I would still favour Dweba, but you do have a very good point. Those 5m lineouts has been our favourite attacking weapon.
It would be interesting to see how many tries have been scored by the Boks from there.
Over 40%?
@@PauloJorgeMonteiro Very high conversion rate especially this last year with the additional variations out the back and on the blind. I agree with evan, we should have been building a bit more depth there and dumped Dweba earlier when the issue with throwing became aparent.
So spot on about the head collision story
Make no mistake Rassie is simply playing mind games.
Keo shooting from the hip. ❤ the World Cup edition is absolute 🔥
You guys are great. When the episode drops. I WATCH. BOKS BY 10 PLUS AN EXTRA 0😂😂😂😂
Excellent summary of what rugby is - the one thing we English know is that we'd sure as $hit kick the ball over the top of the Boks with rugby intellect than try and run through them!
Can we say Romania is a "Mild contact session" I hear you, but this is the professional era and Romania is no small nation in stature and physicality.
we underestimated Japan in 2019, the Romanians would have learned from the Ireland loss
Yea I’m a Saffa and I dunno why these okes are talking like we’re invincible. France and Ireland and even the Islanders could match our physicality no problem. Marx is a massive loss but I reckon if we stick to our strengths and keep our discipline in games we’ve still got a great shout to bring it home 🔥
Calling a spade an ifosholo.. Talking the truth this week! Love it. Jeff Wilson must be in meltdown...
@Keo, on citings, agreed with sentiments on intent, maybe throw in the reckless element there, then you have a great combo to keep discipline intact. Barbaric game played by gentlemen. Loving the show!
I still enjoy watching the mismatches and the minnows. Chile are a great team to watch. Almost like Japan was 4 years ago.
Marco Van Basten Van Staden is not a giggle. He's built like Marx. Similar skill-set in jackaling and ball carrying. He needs to work on scrumming and throwing in. Simple.
I think scrummaging he’s fine but line out throwing is a different beast, it took Marx years to perfect it when he converted to Hooker. Even Bongi throws skew at times and he’s a 60+ test campaigner
He is still being thrown in the deep end,
I like your way of thinking. He is Marx-esque in stature and playing style but I agree that it may be a little bit of a dice rolling getting him to throw with little track record. UNLESS Rassie And Jacques have been cooking up some secret training for him but I doubt it with bongi and Deon both covering for nr2. Eish not a bad problem to have if we’re even entertaining these thoughts. Just shows what a stroke of genius our squad depth strategy is. Could be what separates us from the rest of the best teams
Just bit of work like scrumming and throwing. Simple. FFs. Joker
Not a joker at all. I take my rugby fandom very seriously. There's a reason why Van Staden is being considered at 2. He's built like a hooker and plays a lot like Marx does.his core stability is insane so he can suit scrumming in the front row. The throwing in I agree is no joke, but, he has the opportunity to work on it. My other choice would be to draft in Grobbelaar who also plays a similar game with strong hooker fundamentals. I'll say it again through, Marco has the attributes needed. Review his hi-lights package and you'll see. @@71bootneck
Can we get Zels a Mexican sombrero?
I would like if they gave Akker van DER merwe a call up.
Boks have good strength in depth up front to take a hit or 2...World rugby would be better off helping tier 1 nations to get A team calender to play tier 2 nations instead of hoping they'll magically get better every 4 years
The Hulk marx out is the biggest blow ever, no matter who they bring in I can't see a difference, now this limits our chances of going thru, it's gonna be very tough now
These guys summed up exactly why NZ and OZ youth are more interested in Rugby League.
Without Malcolm there is no bomb squad, let's not kid ourselves.
Pollard is welcome back and take the kicks as long as Manie can start as well. Our backline is finally firing in a way that we seldom did with Pollard at 10.
Rassie is not going to get Pollard back,althoug i wish he does
Agreed the cards surrounding head clashes are ridiculous. Accidental clashes should not be penalised.
It's one thing to say that people accept the risks when they play rugby, it's entirely another when what the player does on the field is owned by someone else who doesn't risk their health, but takes the majority of the profit made by the player on the field. Also, maybe a rugby player once chose to play and take the risk, but when you become a professional player you no longer have a choice, because if you don't work you don't eat.
I am a Bok supporter but I think writing off AB’s and England and Wallabies is dangerous.
😂
Yeah I can’t argue with anything you guys said.
WE have Dr Danie Craven to thank. hes foundations and principle philosophy that rugby is a simple game , you just have to do it right. Back in the 80s we were the best even though we were isolated.
keep up the good work and stay humble
This is a long shot, but could the reason behind NZ and Australia's down fall be down to South Africa leaving Super Rugby? The SA teams and players play in Europe against European stars (European rugby starting to dominate the sport), so they learn their tactics and their weaknesses. I dunno, just a thought
Don't speak like that unless you want to be called arrogant by fans of other teams. Lots of haters of the Boks and Saffas out there 💚💛🇿🇦
@@wot4922 I'm only speaking the truth 😂😂
Who won the rugby championship?
All blacks dicked Saffas in Mt Smart and Ellis Park last year. Short memory?
@@Charlie-uz8vb nothing compared to a 35-7 hiding tbh, but ok
Marx you a Legend 🇿🇦❤ Springboks team got a job to do thats why we are South African
I wonder why nobody is speaking about the “chop” tackles anymore - early in the Scotland game, Sous gets chopped with a no arms, shoulder dive into his knees. Not a peep about it. Now that is a Red card offence. Not these ridiculous head bumps that is ruining the wonderfully physical game we all love.
Yes bring back the spear tackle like the off the ball neck breaker on O'Driscoll in 2009, not looked at by the ref or TMO, not cited afterwards, the AB coach stating it was nothing, we should just forget it and move on. Just loving the idea of cheering on a player being put in a wheelchair.
I actually agree with you that the head contact issue is farcical, head contact is inevitable, I feel that intentional foul play would be an easier issue to determine, such as a no arms shoulder to the head, this is likely an insurance directive, an attempt to reduce insurance claims. I watch motorcycle road racing and they were forced to put stupid chicanes in place inorder to meet insurance costs.
The guys were funny in the last episode. I like them but now they are arrogant towards the other teams. Beware if the bocks are out in the quarters. Eventhough the game analysis is right ( mostly)
Yeah, they are funny. But they need to respect the other teams too.
A little banter is good.
Yip but arrogance comes before a fall
@James-dv6hb except when it's against the boks, then it's WW3 in comment sections around the world
But they are not the Boks😅😅 you must listen to other commentators. Just leave them alone.
Love Ricky 🎉
If Pollard is back then we definitely winning against Ireland 🇮🇪, we missed lots of penalties chances, however the guys who stepped in they did their best but we all know what Pollard can do, go Bokkie, bring it home .
Perfectly said with regard to the head clash yellow and red cards👍🏻
Awesome guys. Top show🤘
A little bit harsh to say that the Aussie Super teams are just ice cream. The Cheetahs just recently struggled to overcome the lowest ranked franchise in the competition i.e. The Western Force.
Cheetahs has 1/4 of their budget probably.
Has anyone noted that PSDT is very close to PTSD, which must behow you feel after playing against him.
Im an all blacks fan and i usually hate-watch this show just to see the worst examples of SA fandom and hubris (love it). Today though you are so absolutely spot on about the allblacks and what's wrong with them i wish i could put it in an info packet and send it to nzru. Great thoughts and analysis as usual. ABs are down now but im hoping for some renewal in the next cycle. All blacks by ten!
Wow, wishing for a Sexton injury!! Desperate??
Sorry to hear Marx is out for the world cup. Big blow
Love this show😂
"Tuks 15" 😂😂😂😂
Losing Marx sucks, but I would rather have Pollard than Dweba. We still have the top 2 best forward packs in the world even without Marx. But gaining a reliable place kicker can make a much bigger difference than having a hooker specialist
Dweba offers nothing but i do worry about a ring rusty Pollard who has the tendency to take a while to show off his best,especially of the kicking tee
Ever heard about a weak hooker being separated from the loosehead and both the opposition tighthead and hooker scrumming against him?Is Deon Fourie strong enough?
The 2 best packs in the world? You are dreaming
@@joedennehy386 Not even close mate
Great show, from a kiwi. The quicker they get Aucklanders out of the all black the better we will be.
4/3 split?
Glad Im not the only one who noticed.
The Seattle Coffee 😂😂
Our Boks does have deep depth and it looks like the only team that can really stand up against that physicality is ourself in training looking at how our guys getting injured
Why didn't you win the rugby championship? You've won it 4 times of 27. You're just dreaming
Great, history lesson on how to win!🤣
This isn't to sound arrogant but Ireland have beaten the boks with Marx and Ethzebeth before the Bok's will obviously qualify but that Ireland was always going to be a real test.
Love the September edition of this SARUGBYMAG
there are only two sides in world rugby that will be able to put the AB's on the back foot....Springbok A side and the Springbok B side....
Owen Finegan is NOT unheralded. Possibly the greatest 6 to ever wear the Wallaby jumper.
Hope this show makes its way to the AB’s dresser room…😆
Pollard may or may not come back........remember what Nienaber said......only if there was an injury to one of the flyhalfs would Pollard be considered to return for the Boks.....besides....we have Deon Fourie and apparently Marco Van Staden who has been practising the position of N02 as cover for both Fourie and Bongi so I highly doubt that Pollard will make an entrance in the 2023 World Cup
Nienaber also said that any injury in the back row would be replaced by a midfield back. The bokke camp are constantly putting out contradictory statements.
fully agree with how officials need to call these head clashes, and to be fully honest in my humble opinion, how has it even become a part of the law because there is just no way around it. a high forearm to the neck upwards is always easy to see if its intentional and is absolutely thuggery even if its accidental. because there's a skill gap there or just bad discipline on any defender's quick reaction when you are already beaten. a head clash is never intentional but always accidental because you don't need a skill to be tough or rough laying your body on the line when we play in the name of Rugby. this topic has never sat right with me after watching Angus Ta'avao getting a red for the Irish & AB test last year in Dunedin. absolutely ridiculous by these tiddly winks officials and an embarrassment to try solidifying any argument in these scenarios. if player chooses to play then continue the game, depending on the severity of the injury then you should make the call to send him for a HIA which covers player safety. instead, you give a red which is an atrocious decision that kills all fairness for rivals to battle on the biggest stage of their athletic carriers and a chance at lifting the ultimate goal writing history. this call from officials is criminal beyond a reasonable doubt that WR needs to relinquish this law effective immediately.
Have the 4th and 5th place teams play qf/sf and final for a rwc 2027 qf spot!? I will watch that too
No need to panic. Massive depth. Every team has injuries
Well said gents. So tiered of pundits who try to not hurt feelings. Call it as it is. As of right now SA, Ireland and the French are front runners. The rest are just competing. Can this change, sure. But not likely.
Devastating news. Absolutely tragic
I would like everyone's opinion, is pollard the choice because he hasn't seen game time. And yes manie is not at full strength missing kicks but in my opinion shouldn't we stick to someone who has been performing
Waiting to see the famous Tongan tackling...gonna be some sore Irish limping around afterwards....
Zelim being a bell-end at 40:10. You must seriously be blind or hopelessly biased to say that DDA is better than Esterhuizen. DDA fluffed some wonderful passing opportunities against Scotland, but these guys are such big fans of domkrag rugby.
Gents, my opinion on the overzealous "safety" protocols is that history will likely repeat itself. Like rugby league and union split due to disagreements, so will this eventually. The elite rugby bureaucrats are appeasing non rugby enthusiasts and changing what rugby looks like in the name of safety. At some point, I forsee a rebel league split from World Rugby. Perhaps in the future, tag rugby will be a new international variant..
Boyz the biggest worry now is who is going to boss the breakdown? Can we slow down Ireland/France ruck and stop quick ball without Marx? If we cant slow down the breakdown and those teams get into a flow we are going to get pounded
any more injuroes for you guys and you may start to wonder about your depth and no doubt we would find out
Summed up NZ perfectly.
What do wales have to do to be a first class side?
I think Wales was a first class side but have had a few rough years recently. Welsh Rugby is having problems with its Youth System too, so hopefully you guys can sort it the issues and return to being a top team again. Good performance against Fiji (250 tackles is a heck of a lot) so maybe things are starting to get back on track again.
Pools should be reduced to 4 with tier 2 still able to qualify for spots 8 to 16 in the world cup for the next time
Always in training. Not warmed up enough. I'm upset.
Has Marks ever suffered a major injury before? Why now….😢 Bokke still have the grunt… we’re a V8 now not a V12..😂
Australian teams are like Ice Cream ... genius Zels!
Ireland didn't play their best team aginst Romania, they are closer to their best team this week, likely they will be able to rest a few players against the boks! Just kidding, I think there will be 1 or 2 changes for the game on the 23rd.
Such a setback.... Good for Polly... Bongi need to sort our his line out throwing...
In Ricky Rod we trust.