The biggest difference between Pokémon and Digimon is the scope of what a battle means. In Pokémon, when you lose your Pokémon faints and you lose some money. You take them to a Poké center to get healed up and you try again. In Digimon, when you lose *you die.* Digimon in the digital world fight to the death, meaning you don’t get a second chance. You either win, or get eaten by a bigger, stronger Digimon. During the Digimon movie, Greymon tore off Parrotmon’s (10:18) wings because he was threatening Tai and his little sister, Kari. Even as an Agumon he tore apart a vending machine because Kari wanted something to drink, and accidentally blew up a bus stop because he thought the bus was trying to hurt her. This combined with the fact that later in the movie, the team was trying to stop a Digimon virus hybrid from taking over the United States nuclear weapon deposit and subsequently _nuking Colorado and Japan_ - kinda speaks for itself. Digimon is a different type of “intense” compared to Pokémon. This is why Tai straight up jumps Red, because while Red thinks it’s just another Pokémon battle for sport - Tai thinks Red is trying to kill his best friend.
To be fair, in the pokemon manga poke battles can and will end up deadly and the kanto elite 4 basically wants to commit genocide on the world. So yeah.... not all of pokemon media is as harmless.
@@HUNTERxROY I'm aware, the manga was epic. Charmeleon slicing Ekans in half is iconic for how brutal the manga can be. That and the melting Pokémon - that too. Even the anime has its intense moments. The original movie has Mewtwo massacre an entire research laboratory after watching all of his clone friends die. However, I'm referencing the games and anime, not the manga - which when compared to the Digimon anime and games, is not the same type of intense.
I would say the stakes in the wild for pokemon is quite high, it is only because battleing in the pokemon counts as sports that most of the time stakes is not high.
Red thought he was doing a pokemon battle, but he literally just attacked a stranger who doesn't know what pokemon battles are, he certainly wasn't expecting to get punched in the face 😆
Not to mention he was still trying to capture it despite it already having a "trainer" and not even saying hey, sorry. Want to battle for real now? Red was a bit of a jerk in this fight lol.
If it was Agumon S he found instead of regular Agumon, well, yeah. Either Agumon just straight up punches a few times and knocks out Charizard, or Marcus appears and deletes Charizard
I remember it was so funny when in thr comment section of the Death Battle Video people complained that Tai cheated when he punched Red. They called punchining your enemy in a fight cheating. That was so funny to me back then.
What's next? Saying using Light That Burns The Sky on Ultra Necrozma in a ruleset that allows Ultranecrozmium Z usage immediately after your opponent used a Devastating Drake Dialga on said Ultra Necrozma is cheating? Those people forgot Logic and replaced it with Salty Tears.
Something this battle doesn't focus on is the differences between Digimon Tamers and Pokemon Trainers. Pokemon Training is a job and a hobby where Pokemon fight for sport. Digimon Tamers usually only have one Digimon, and said Digimon is a friend, not a pet, and Digimon fights tend to be super brutal with Digimon getting killed in battle. Also, Tamers can, and will, fight alongside their Digimon, hence why Tai straight up attacked Red.
As a fan of both series I knew what was about to happen. The big difference is that pokemon trainers are essentially sports stars like mma while, while the digi destined are like war vets. They've both seen allot of combat but its a different type of combat..
@@LiMe251 nothing in pokemon can come as close to the beginning of cyber sleuth imo, like sure it's not graphic, but the main character almost gets CONSUMED ALIVE, and for the rest of the game is now essentially a digital lifeform in the physical realm while his actual body is in a coma. (also just all the people that have been consumed by the eaters) but none of that even grazes digimon survive which I haven't finished yet but from what i've seen you are literally interacting with 2 dead ghost children throughout the story (no spoilers i'm on chapter 2)
One other thing to note is that Digimon oftentimes have more than one evolutionary path, meaning that just about anything is possible. In regards to Tai's Agumon, he has at least 3 different mega forms, one being Wargreymon, another being Blitzgreymon, and his evil mega level being Machinedramon.
With this being an aspect better explored by the Adventure(2020) reboot. By the original’s standards, it was Skullgretmon that was a result. As evolution for digimon is not as linear.
@@cyberdragoon1432well thats how a small ancient reptile evolve into big dinosaur species alot of it..by not being linear in evolving..which the *accurate* evolution unlike pokemon which isnt🤣
@@akatsukigajou1639 probably should have said branched, since for most digimon their evolution outcomes are a result of their surroundings and circumstances
This is using the original anime as its source material though, the reboot wasn't even around when this Death Battle got made. In the original Agumon didn't have any alternative mega forms, instead he had different Ultimate stages, SkullGreymon and in Season 2 there was MetalGreymon (blue), both being dark digivolutions.
Fun fact: Tai was voice here, by Todd Haberkorn; who voiced Natsu Dragneel in Fairy Tail. Considering Natsu uses Fire Dragon Slayer Magic, it's no surprise he voiced the winning trainer.
@@CaptainCFalcon Actually, it came out in July. It was an experimental episode that didn't really turn out the way Chad and Ben had hoped, so they didn't continue with the idea.
Something that I don't see brought up a lot is how more directly involved digidestined are in fights compared to pokemon trainers. Depending on the situation they won't just let their digimon handle evrything and will (attempt) to throw down.
Even in Adventure the kids aren’t always on the sidelines even Joe attempted to remove a black gear and he is considered the “wimpy one,” of that group.
This one's a classic. Fun fact, they actually did a twitch release "live view" for this episode, before RUclips had a streaming option for content creators. It was the first time they did this I believe. The funny thing about all this is apparently they didn't see the final parts of the animation where the finisher happened, because the animator wasn't finished with it until like the day of or something. So they weren't prepared for it when it happened live.
I think someone may have already pointed it out but battling is much different between the Pokémon World and the Digital World. In the Pokémon World, battling is something like a hobby or sport. And you typically battle to become stronger and become a top trainer. And if a Pokémon loses a fight, usually a Trainer can just take them to a Pokémon Center or use potions/revives to heal them up. In the Digital World, battling is all about survival. While in human world, Digimon are usually bonded to their Tamer with a strong friendship. Though in the Digital World, they sort of roam around and live "wild" in a sense. And losing to a stronger opponent in the Digital World means you could most likely be killed or eaten. So, on that note, Digimon are going to go all out in their battles because their use to losing possibly resulting in death. Though, there is also the difference in the relationship between human and monster in both worlds. In the Pokémon World, Pokémon have been shown to have a level of sentience that does allow them communicate in their own way with their Trainers being able to understand and communicate with them. Though mostly the relationship is that of a Master/Pet or Master/Slave though some of the canon lore did depict that in the "olden times" in the Pokémon universe, relationships between Trainers and their Pokémon were potentially much more intimate. Yes, that is actually a canon thing in Pokémon lore, but to quote a nice RUclips series; "that's a story for another day." Still, losing a battle doesn't really mean death and since it is akin to a sport, Trainers aren't going to be jumping in to throwing hands alongside their Pokémon. In The Digital World, the bond between Tamers and their Digimon are that of a strong friendship. And the strength of their bond can make their overall power stronger as well. And since to Digimon, losing could mean death, there is a good chance their Tamers would potentially find some way to fight along with them to keep their Digimon from potentially getting killed.
So much wrong with this. First off most people are treated as actual companions not pets and pokémon do in fact die in battles, the fainting thing is a game mechanic and trainers can and sometime do fight along side there pokémon
@@reggielacey2235Actually, supposed "game mechanics" are canon, since they are consistently acknowledged in the only other continuity that is largely cared about, the TV series, and since the way status and 0% HP works spans across multiple continuities... The fact that you are claiming otherwise makes you look like one of two things I doubt you want to look like and hope you aren't, those being a televised edgelord who subscribes to those coma/purgatory conspiracies, and someone who makes liking Pokéspe, specifically the angsty fanfic parts, their entire personality. I would advise that you stop spouting this edgy nonsense and, if you are indeed one of those two things, that you better yourself to fit neither. Sincerely, a stranger whomst thou will most likely never meet.
@@reggielacey2235The fact you can have up to six on you at a time means that not all of them receive equal attention. The only one that most trainers bond with is their starter. Not to mention most are just left in the PC never to be used once you get their Pokédex entry.
Plus, if you look at the Digimon Tamers show, a "Tamer" literally _did_ end up having their partner Digimon die outright. And it's not an off-screen death either, you actually _see_ said Digimon getting killed. About the only times Digimon fights didn't end in death was during the initial File Island arc of the original anime, as most of the hostile Digimon were being controlled by Devimon's dark gears and thus were not in control of their actions, so those fights were more to free the afflicted Digimon than to just outright kill them.
Yes yes yes!!! So happy you guys are watching this one!!. I'm a huge fan of both but Digimon has always been better due to its focus on trust, relationships, survival and finding yourself. So happy you guys get to experience it!!!
@@SufferingSuccotashat the end of the day they still go back in the Pokeball. Yes, you can love, trust, and have a great relationship with you Pokemon, but not near the extent of Digimon where you are partners on equal footing
@@beastlygamer21 I also did that for my dog, took care of it really good. But still was not on the level of my friends that I have made. Because at the end of the day its not about how much you take care of some one its whatever or not your on the same level as them.
Ya know... I always enjoyed Pokemon, so seeing Digimon in the past, I just figured it was a Pokemon ripoff. But I gave Digimon a chance and loved it. Both Pokemon and Digimon are great in their own ways
I think the Digimon series is better. But that's mostly because it tells a story. Whereas Pokémon is mostly a "monster of the week" type. There is a story being told over the course of the show, but it's not like you'll miss much if you don't see an episode. Of course, Pokémon games are much more successful and it is one of the most successful franchises in history. I don't think it's losing much in that regard.
I think the original Digimon and Pokemon products were being made about the same time... Digimon were originally little virtual pet devices, like Tamagotchi, while Pokemon was an RPG game... You could argue that, while they have similarities, they had different developments... Monster Rancher maybe came a bit later, I think... It had some interesting gimmicks though and was probably different enough... I don't think I would call any of them rip-offs exactly... But yeah... Kinda interesting that three similar, but different products all came about to have similar anime around the same time... Well, I guess it was a trend, so not that weird...
@@blaze048 The dub song is pretty catchy, but it's not that great. The sub though? Better all round music, not as catchy but way better to listen to over an over. That's pretty much how it goes for all the Digimon shows.
The pokemon games are objectively better but going back to that time period. I myself loved pokemon the games I hated the anime. Whereas while I really didn't like any of the digital games I did like the anime.
@@0potion i liked both, the pokemon games ate definitely better than the digimon games. But the storyline of Digimon is way better. The creators had a limited vision and executed their vision perfectly
So a couple facts about Digimon. 1. Digimon are living packets of computer data. They are created by the data deleted off of our computers and because of that they vary wildly in design and concepts. It also means every human on earth has a potential Digimon partner of their very own. 2. Digimon can slide all over the place, and from/to any stage of growth. Sometimes they can even become different Digimon of the same level in a process called Slide Evolution. 3.Most Digimon are basically wild and feral. While there are plenty of nice friendly Digimon, there are also plenty that will kill on site, and yes i said kill.
And also Digimon evolution is not necessarily linear, as depending on the surroundings and circumstances evolution can be something else. Granted DB were using the first show as reference material and what was known around the time of production.
Digimon existed before computers. They just existed as yokai,demons,spirits that were summoned trough magic or sorcery or were subjugated in Japan via the ancient art of onmyodo. Ethereal beings that in the present have become tangible and visible through digital means. Digimon also inhabit higher layers of existence that transcend the Human World. Humans discovered Digimon and the Digital World when they created computers, tapping into a small part of the Digital World
Actually in Adventure and Survive Digimon are the counterpart of their human partners and the other half of their souls. In ancient times Digimon were recognized as yokai,shikigami,spirits. Ethereal beings that have become tangible and visible through digital means.
Tai throwing punches might seem out of left field, but him and his second-in-command Matt got in fights with each other lots and taking swings was something that happened a few times. Meanwhile, Ash tried to take a swing at Mewtwo once (which went poorly) and the most he does is tackle people that he has disagreements with. Since he's comparable to Red, it's likely that he'd be unprepared to duke it out.
The comedy was great and love how Tai just went to beat the crap out of Red but I think they made the winner too obvious too soon in this fight. Charizard was going all out already while Greymon still had 2 transformations waiting.
@@katomamundara8106 Most likely Death Battle knew that, too. They basically admit that Metal Greymon would be more than enough to win in the analysis at the end. But if they didn't show another form, it would be sort of disappointing for people who wanted to see War-Greymon in a Death Battle.
Comparing a series where you ensl*ve monsters who can't talk and put them in container for competitions and a series where monster and human have to fight to death to save two worlds are unfair itself lololol
I agree when you have any attachment to the characters, the deaths are brutal. Especially this with kids involved. But that's the point of Death Battle and I kinda appreciate too that they stick to the format no matter what.
Not always. There's at least one instance I can think of where they went pretty easy with the loser's death. Specifically one of the ones featuring a character from RWBY.
Digimon is just on a different level of power. Even the most powerful pokemon have stats that can be quantified and weaknesses that can be exploited. Digimon are more like characters of myth and lore, they can beomes unbelievably powerful and can't really be measured. Its a lot like comparing Dragon Ball characters to DC characters.
It's also exciting that Tai interfered and punches Red...because the characters in the Pokemon world are incredibly naive and the characters in Digimon..they were all kids who had to deal with this extreme situation and matured early because of it. Slave is the wrong term I think... it's more like a mixture of pet and employee that you use and then pack away again. But yeah Boomstick was right..
Yeah. In most cases, the relationship between a Trainer and their Pokemon has the Trainer as the one in charge. A Tamer and their Digimon however are best friends and equals, with neither being superior to the other, and a Tamer would do anything to help their Digimon and vice-versa. And while a Tamer usually only has one Digimon partner, there are rare instances of a Tamer having two or more Digimon partners (the protagonist of Digimon World: Next Order for instance has two Digimon partners rather than just one).
For those wondering what the music was once WarGreymon started fighting, it's from the game Xenoblade Chronicles X, it's a song called "Uncontrollable" which in-game plays whenever you enter combat with a "Tyrant" enemy (basically mid-bosses that are often well beyond your capabilities the first time you run into them).
If you want to watch a friendship battle. Than I highly recommend Deadpool vs Pinkie Pie. It’s honestly really good and it was a nice thing to watch after countless deaths of your favorite character lol
Bethany: I don't want them to fight. I don't wanna see Charizard get skewered 😢. Lol. That's cute and understandable 😁. But to be fair, Beth. Red started it. Tai just finished it 😉
In the digital world, every day fight is a life threatening situation, where if you lose you die. While compared to the pokemon world things are more tame. Thats why Tai attacked Red while the latter commented "we're not supposed to fight!".
Theee days the matchup would be more one sided. This is because Agumon has a new form called Bond of Bravery which washes Wargreymon out of competition.
As a fan of both, this outcome was gonna happen. I mean, Digimon was the first to do Mega Evolution (even if we didn't see Metalgraymon fight (ーー;) ) but also that Tai was gonna help by punching Red since we have seen him get physical in the show.
Same 2 words but different terminological use. Since that’s just comparing a natural stage of evolution to an circumstantial upgraded. Granted this was likely because for westerners the digimon stages of evolution were sorta changed and flip flopped around. With it going from Baby, Baby 2, Child, Adult, Perfect, Ultimate.
i always prefered Digimon. Just in the fact there was a story and these kids dealt with acutal death, loss, and real life issues like divorce, depression, finding out they were adopted, and stress. The kids fought knowing they could die. I get angry when people say Digimon is a rip off.
Knowing both franchises really sells this battle as someone bringing a knife to nuclear warfare and having the pokemon fans cheer on the guy with a knife
They wanted to add Tai throwing punches at Red just to show the idea of "charizard needs a trainer", but that was hardly necessary, Wargreymon defeated threats like MetalSeadramon and MachineDramon within moments. Charizard might be awesome, but WarGreymon is on a completely different level.
Tai punching someone is something that actually happens more time than I wish to remember. If I remember correctly, there's one episode Tai huge heavy stick to fight other Digimon to protect..... Mimi?? TK?? It was way too long ago. I may be mixing things up.
As someone that has grown up with both, I was gonna win and lose no matter who the victor was. It did sting me seeing my favorite Pokémon die like that, but at least my 2nd favorite Digimon won. (The Guilmon line being my absolute favorite) But hey, it’s all in good (morbid) fun of Death Battle. And I know you didn’t ask about it, so I’ll just state this as a bit of trivia regarding the relationship between the 2 franchises. Way back in the day, Digimon started out as like a Tamagatchi toy in Japan. Tamagatchi being these little devices that show little creatures you can take care of like a real life pet (play pretend basically). Meanwhile, Pokémon games and eventually anime came out a little bit after, and became a Worldwide Phenomenon. Digimon eventually did as well when it’s own anime came into being, but unfortunately, it just didn’t get a big enough following as Pokémon did, to the point where people just called it a Pokémon-ripoff. Thankfully that died over the past 2 decades, but Pokémon is obviously still going strong as a worldwide brand, while Digimon has had some rough spots here and there. Digimon may not be as popular as Pokémon, but I believe Digimon outshines Pokémon in a lot of aspects. Like story and characters mostly. If you want to make reaction videos (or just check out on your own time) to look deeper into these franchises, then I suggest KingK for Pokémon games and Billiam for Digimon anime as they have retrospectives for them.
Yeah honestly anyone whos seen Digimon and Pokemon knew this was no contest Digimon are on a whole other level. Heck some at the Rookie/child stage like Agumon could probably take down a fully evolved Mega Charizard, and I don't mean Agumon just a Digimon at that level. Lucemon being the obvious reference
Frankly I found Digimon more adultish or frightening...cause in se 2 there is a scene where a powerful Digimon returns and the first thing that sicko does is tests his telepathy and torture his minion...in Japanese the talk is darker than English dubbing
I tremendously love both series so I felt torn but I will say this *_*DIGIMON IS JUST AS HYPE AND MEMORABLE AS POKÉMON! SOME OF YOU GUYS JUST AREN'T READY FOR THAT CONVERSATION*_*
When I first heard this battle was going to yo allow Agumon to go all the way to mega I just laughed so hard. There's just no comparison. Your average Mega level could destroy continents. For comparison ,weak Ultimates can level mountains.
Digimon power scaling can be insane. Basically, all versions of Angemon are on the tier above. His Ultimate form was battling Mega forms and holding his own.
The funny thing is Wargraymon isn't it's final form while red and charizard lacked any real bond to go the extra mile Even if they were equally matched it would have gone the same way, Digimon are immortal and will fight to kill, when Digimon die they're reborn with a few small changes so no fear of death
Digimon are kinda immortal when they die the get reset so they don't remember their past life ..... but they can die and never get reborn like how Wizardmon, Pumpkinmon and Gotsumon all die in the human world... also in tamers absorbing that data when a digimon dies also prevents them from being reborn and that happens alot
If your looking for more Ark content there are some battle videos where people put creatures from different mods against each other. They often have custom animations and so are really cool to watch! Kumama games is the best channel for that.
God I remember being so hyped from the digimon movie, tai blowing the whistle, the music kicking in... badass I like to think Pokemon Manga Red would have a better shot... but he uses Venasaur so would still probably use, but he'd at least punch Tai
Yeah, the manga is way darker, and thematically more similar to Digimon than the games or anime, but it is more limited for red in terms of power scaling, far as I remember
If you guys want a truly difficult to predict deathbattle, Deadpool vs Pinkie Pie. That and Deadpool vs The Mask. All the characters are so bizarre that the fights are genuinely difficult to guess. Other good (maybe more predictable) fights include Voltron vs Power Rangers, Hulk vs Broly, and the Megaman Battle Royale.
Great video, I was on side of Digimon too! Try that DB with Satan (from Dragon Ball!) vs that other guy, who's name I can't remember! It was super funny!
I expected such reaction, coz difference is huge! Everything starts from age rating: Pokemons have max 15+, but Digimons - 20+! Pokemons are just like sportsmen only! They don't know much about how to survive or protect their homes! They also don't know what to do without a trainer! And if they die, they will not comeback. But Digimons know who to do it, and when digimon is dieing, they will be turned into digi egg to be revived again! Digimons are more warriors than Pokemons! They are more like humans than pokemons. They can talk, eat, cook, dance and etc. like humans! They have access to all languages, so they can speak freely! For example, Floramon like French more than the others, coz she thinks it is most lovely and beautiful language. So, having a Digimon it is like you have another sister or brother from other world! Will be cool if you will start watching Digimons with eng subs, coz dub is not very good! Plus. You can also play in Smash or Pass or you can make a Tier List, especially for DigiWaifus!😊
The major difference between Pokémon and Digimon are that Pokémon are animals, while Digimon are capable of civilization and society, ranging from tribal to sophisticated. That and most Digimon vastly overpower most Pokémon.
Pokemon series/seasons end with a big tournament. Digimon series end with a life or death battle against an apocalyptic foe trying to destroy one or both worlds *Digital and Real worlds*. Apocalymon, MaloMyotismon, The D-Reaper, Lucemon, Belphemon *merged with a genocidal human*, Bargamon, *OVA: we had a conflict between Yggdrasil and Harmony (two programs) resulting in existential horrors and a giant naked woman called Ordinemon trying to expand the Digital world into the human world through force, and then the reboot used Milleniummon (like the Manga did ages ago), and the current series...is still on-going but every other Digimon is trying to kill people or something so still guesses who the final FINAL foe will be.
This episode really hurts your soul lol But something digimons reach the “It beats Goku” level. An idea for a Death Battle that has been around for a while is “Gogeta vs Omnimon”, and Omnimon is the fusion between WarGreymon and MetalGarurumon. Just to give an idea of the power levels here.
Digimon will remain above any other anime for me ❤ They are literal digital code and human emotions infused within them. Digimons are your partners not your pets and their energies comes from trust and bond you have within them. When a digimon dies its over in a batte thus the amount of levels it can go to. I am glad it didn’t got to the point that Tai had to digivolve it to Omnimon. Imagine the wreck it would have caused.
Pokemons were mostly designed and built for battles while almost every kind of mega level Digimons were designed capable of mass destruction. Also, Death Battles' results were made of by votes, so they're not that accurate, whoever had more fan wins.
I would love you guys to watch the first part of the digimon movie where Tai is a young child with Kairi. It's so cute. the second part that takes place after the original series takes place is good too, but it would be better to watch the original series before that part to get context. It's not a long segment. But you will definitely get an idea of how different Digimon is compared to Pokemon tone wise.
The power difference that Digimon has over Pokemon is ridiculous. Most Mega level Digimon are god level in power There are groups of Digimon who are all Mega levels like The Royal Knights The Olympos 12 The Seven Demon Lords For example Lucemon who is the Demon of Pride is based off Lucifer from the bible. Oh and Agumon's Mega level Wargreymon is not the only Mega level he can achieve his evolution line can branch off into unique and different Greymons. The Angumon evolution line has some of the most powerful mega level Digimon and one of them is a Royal Knight Digimon.
the reason they did the Charizard getting BLOODY DESTROYED. I think its a punch to the gut against the American/English localization of Digimon. If you... Search Digimon stuff directly from Japanese, you get the thing unfiltered, and it is very deep and dark. While the American version... is Dumbed down and censored SO MUCH for Children to the point that is almost an insult (really) Small example: Wargreymon´s Claws, they are called "Dragon Killers" Literally. But in the American translation they are called "Dra-Mon Destroyers"... which is Uuuuhhggg, why? Also other stuff like one scene where Wargreymon cuts a digimon in Half and in English Agumon says "You´ve been cut like Tofu!" And in the Japanese Original Version he says "Ill never loose, Because I have Tai and Kairi... and all of my friends on my side!"
The "Dragon Killers" are called Dramon Killers in Japan so that part wasn't censored, as Dramon's are a specific types of Dragon Digimon in the series...
@TheMaxCloud nope, it's name in Japanese is ドラモンキラー what reads doramon kilaa, while dragon would be ドラゴン/doragon with the first o's being overall silent on both, meaning it's always supposed to be dramon.
Digimon also works with Neoplatonic Emanationism. What does Neoplatonic Emanationism mean? The adopted concept of Platonism is that there is a higher reality, a true abstract existence that is responsible for all that is individual to exist. The concept of emantionism is that there are in fact innumerable layers of reality, one more abstract than the other, but in the end with all arising from a single higher and absolute layer.According to Emanationism, Creation occurs by a process of emanation - "out-flowing". The entire cosmos, and even all the gods and godheads beyond the cosmos, have come about through emanation. Just as the ocean forms its surface into waves, so the absolute forms create successive manifestations, successive entities. And these in turn create - or rather, emanate - further entities, and so on, with all these entities combining and interacting in the extraordinary network of existence. Emanationism is an idea in the cosmology or cosmogony of certain religious or philosophical systems. Emanation, from the Latin emanare meaning "to flow from" or "to pour forth or out of", is the model by which all things are derived from the first reality, or principle. All things are derived from the first reality or perfect God by steps of degradation to lesser degrees of the first reality or God, and at every step the emanating beings are less pure, less perfect, less divine. One could think of the relationship between each of these levels as being like "body and soul", "spirit and matter", or "creator and creature", in that each higher level is the soul, spirit, and creator of the level immediately below it; and the body, matter, and creature (created being) of the level immediately above it. The inhabitants of the higher worlds act like the souls of those in the lower worlds. (imgur.com/a/60iJBPJ) Basically the structure of existence is divided into several layers with a physical and metaphysical difference between the layers.To each level of existence, there is a higher level with this physical/metaphysical difference. Our physical bodies have souls, souls have other souls (I will call it the second soul), the second soul has a third soul, and so on. Digimon follows the same cosmology, the world is structured in a multi-layered hierarchy.When it comes to Digimon's cosmology, the worlds are not simply side-by-side of each other (or all over the place). Digimon goes by a world hierarchy (that have been called layers, levels, etc), meaning the worlds go vertically, up and down. The Human World for example is a part of that hierarchy, and it happens to be at the very bottom. The worlds of the Human World would be side-by-side, horizontally. With the worlds of the Digital World also existing horizontally within its layers (the DW is made up of various layers), but the entire Digital World itself is beyond the Human World (all of them) because it's in a hierarchical position superior to it. Due to the Human World being at the very bottom, any world that's a part of the hierarchy (layers beyond the HW) would be beyond the Human World. This can start before even touching the Digital World. The Human World is your classic infinite multiverse. Every possible world has emerged in a multi-layered way...and the worlds quite similar yet different to one another lie side-by-side. ( imgur.com/a/rTO5DYx ) In short, it's nothing akin to universes in parallel to one another, which a superficial knowledge of all this stuff would lead to, nor is it the difference in between the Real and the Virtual/Digital, posited by the V-Pets and by anything following the lore of the V-Pets, but the relationship between a higher plane of existence and the one that's emanated from it. It's vertical, not horizontal. The Digital World is a plane of existence in which the otherwise poorly defined "soul", or the essence, of humans can take physical form. I've used this example elsewhere but I guess I can use it here as well. This example uses "threads" and "posts" on sites.Imagine each thread to be a layer (such as this one), with the posts within each thread being universes. The layers are a part of the world hierarchy. They're obviously many threads on the first page, with each one being a layer with universes within them.The lowest thread would be the lowest layer, equivalent to the Human World. Each post within this thread (layer) would be universes/timelines. This layer alone is basically your classic infinite multiverse. It would be the lowest, smallest, etc, layer.Each thread (layer) is superior to the last. So the second to the last thread would be superior, and the one above that would be superior to everything below it. This goes on until the very top. You might be able to see each "page" as another collection of worlds, such as the Homeros' Digital World, the third Digital World, possibly Witchelny, etc. These worlds should be in a similar position to Yggdrasill's Digital World, which transcends the Human World (so Yggdrasill's DW would be beyond a HW, Homeros' DW would be beyond a HW, etc). In fact, according to Re Digitize (Decode), they're a variety of Digital Worlds, and all of them transcend the Human Worlds (each should have a Human World below them). We don't know how many layers would make up those worlds though (we don't know much about these worlds in general. Most worlds we've seen have been a part of Yggdrasill's DW).I believe verses like Umineko and the Dark Tower use similar logic with layers.
great video. but i never understand why they change the soundtrack back in the days. even we in germany got the original soundtrack, just with german Lyrics
Hehehe, this was very interesting, I recommend Renamon vs Lucario at some point. Also, I recommend Tanjiro vs Jonathan and/or SpongeBob SquarePants vs Aquaman at some point.
Pokemon was inspired by animals, while Digimon was partially inspired by superheroes (which is why even t-rexes look like they do arm curls). Pitting a Pokémon against a Digimon is like pitting the most dangerous animal you know of against Superman.
The biggest difference between Pokémon and Digimon is the scope of what a battle means.
In Pokémon, when you lose your Pokémon faints and you lose some money. You take them to a Poké center to get healed up and you try again.
In Digimon, when you lose *you die.* Digimon in the digital world fight to the death, meaning you don’t get a second chance. You either win, or get eaten by a bigger, stronger Digimon.
During the Digimon movie, Greymon tore off Parrotmon’s (10:18) wings because he was threatening Tai and his little sister, Kari. Even as an Agumon he tore apart a vending machine because Kari wanted something to drink, and accidentally blew up a bus stop because he thought the bus was trying to hurt her.
This combined with the fact that later in the movie, the team was trying to stop a Digimon virus hybrid from taking over the United States nuclear weapon deposit and subsequently _nuking Colorado and Japan_ - kinda speaks for itself.
Digimon is a different type of “intense” compared to Pokémon. This is why Tai straight up jumps Red, because while Red thinks it’s just another Pokémon battle for sport - Tai thinks Red is trying to kill his best friend.
To be fair, in the pokemon manga poke battles can and will end up deadly and the kanto elite 4 basically wants to commit genocide on the world. So yeah.... not all of pokemon media is as harmless.
@@HUNTERxROY
I'm aware, the manga was epic. Charmeleon slicing Ekans in half is iconic for how brutal the manga can be. That and the melting Pokémon - that too.
Even the anime has its intense moments. The original movie has Mewtwo massacre an entire research laboratory after watching all of his clone friends die.
However, I'm referencing the games and anime, not the manga - which when compared to the Digimon anime and games, is not the same type of intense.
I would say the stakes in the wild for pokemon is quite high, it is only because battleing in the pokemon counts as sports that most of the time stakes is not high.
Then we also have the pokemon dex entries that are quite dark.
So ... team Aqua trying to use Kyogre to drown the entire world isn't high stakes?
Red thought he was doing a pokemon battle, but he literally just attacked a stranger who doesn't know what pokemon battles are, he certainly wasn't expecting to get punched in the face 😆
Not to mention he was still trying to capture it despite it already having a "trainer" and not even saying hey, sorry. Want to battle for real now? Red was a bit of a jerk in this fight lol.
@@Alphasnowbordergirl Red was always a bit of a jerk tho xd
It’s a good thing he didn’t run into Marcus.😂
If it was Agumon S he found instead of regular Agumon, well, yeah. Either Agumon just straight up punches a few times and knocks out Charizard, or Marcus appears and deletes Charizard
I remember it was so funny when in thr comment section of the Death Battle Video people complained that Tai cheated when he punched Red.
They called punchining your enemy in a fight cheating.
That was so funny to me back then.
What's next? Saying using Light That Burns The Sky on Ultra Necrozma in a ruleset that allows Ultranecrozmium Z usage immediately after your opponent used a Devastating Drake Dialga on said Ultra Necrozma is cheating? Those people forgot Logic and replaced it with Salty Tears.
Red should consider himself lucky he wasn’t fighting Marcus. Charizard wouldn’t have survied his punch.
Something this battle doesn't focus on is the differences between Digimon Tamers and Pokemon Trainers.
Pokemon Training is a job and a hobby where Pokemon fight for sport.
Digimon Tamers usually only have one Digimon, and said Digimon is a friend, not a pet, and Digimon fights tend to be super brutal with Digimon getting killed in battle.
Also, Tamers can, and will, fight alongside their Digimon, hence why Tai straight up attacked Red.
Some Pokémon trainers will fight alongside their mons as well.
@@BJGvideos there was a short of the ice type gym leader from unova throwing hands against Team plasma alongside his beartic
@@jerome6519badass
@@jerome6519 Ah yeah in Generations, right?
@@BJGvideos yeah it was pokemon Generations
As a fan of both series I knew what was about to happen.
The big difference is that pokemon trainers are essentially sports stars like mma while, while the digi destined are like war vets. They've both seen allot of combat but its a different type of combat..
Not even, have you read the pokémon manga. Shit is brutal
@@reggielacey2235pokemon is brutal? When? Like seriously idk if ur just a pokemon fan or what but compared to Digimon, pokemon is a walk in the park
@@dstar9016Tbf the manga does have some violence from what I've heard.
@@LiMe251 nothing in pokemon can come as close to the beginning of cyber sleuth imo, like sure it's not graphic, but the main character almost gets CONSUMED ALIVE, and for the rest of the game is now essentially a digital lifeform in the physical realm while his actual body is in a coma.
(also just all the people that have been consumed by the eaters)
but none of that even grazes digimon survive which I haven't finished yet but from what i've seen you are literally interacting with 2 dead ghost children throughout the story (no spoilers i'm on chapter 2)
@@DaDonroy101 I know, I'm mainly a Digimon fan.
That digimon movie scene of Tai blowing the whistle, makes me emotional.
But it’s so funny especially the “did u see that, no but your driving”
@@PillowheadRidesDialogue added specifically for America.
I know people HATE the film, bit I loved it. It was MY childhood!
aye Digimon, aye Digimon. Champions for the boys and girls Aye Digimon. Age Digimon CHAMPIONS OF THE DIGITAL WORLD
@@LiMe251 things are Always added for dubbing from 1 language to another lol
One other thing to note is that Digimon oftentimes have more than one evolutionary path, meaning that just about anything is possible. In regards to Tai's Agumon, he has at least 3 different mega forms, one being Wargreymon, another being Blitzgreymon, and his evil mega level being Machinedramon.
With this being an aspect better explored by the Adventure(2020) reboot. By the original’s standards, it was Skullgretmon that was a result. As evolution for digimon is not as linear.
@@cyberdragoon1432well thats how a small ancient reptile evolve into big dinosaur species alot of it..by not being linear in evolving..which the *accurate* evolution unlike pokemon which isnt🤣
@@akatsukigajou1639 probably should have said branched, since for most digimon their evolution outcomes are a result of their surroundings and circumstances
This is using the original anime as its source material though, the reboot wasn't even around when this Death Battle got made. In the original Agumon didn't have any alternative mega forms, instead he had different Ultimate stages, SkullGreymon and in Season 2 there was MetalGreymon (blue), both being dark digivolutions.
@@WolforNuvaThis wasn't referring to anime, it was referring to the franchise.
Fun fact: Tai was voice here, by Todd Haberkorn; who voiced Natsu Dragneel in Fairy Tail. Considering Natsu uses Fire Dragon Slayer Magic, it's no surprise he voiced the winning trainer.
I thought he sounded familiar
Did Tai blowing that whistle make anyone else tear up? Just me? Okay.
So many 90s kids say that their playgrounds were spkit between Pokemon and Digimon fans but my all of the kids at my school loved both.
Congratulations! You've officially watched the very first Death Battle where they killed a minor!
@@blackdarkness6798 Well, there was Justin Bieber vs Rebecca Black. But I don't know if many people want to acknowledge that one....
@@dogzilla0578i mean, that one was literally an April Fool's lmao.
@@CaptainCFalcon Actually, it came out in July. It was an experimental episode that didn't really turn out the way Chad and Ben had hoped, so they didn't continue with the idea.
@@dogzilla0578 oh... I could've sworn it was.
Oh well, it was *_OBVIOUSLY_* a joke episode regardless lmao.
@@CaptainCFalconYeah, the only April Fool's episode they ever did was Vegeta vs Mewtwo.
Something that I don't see brought up a lot is how more directly involved digidestined are in fights compared to pokemon trainers. Depending on the situation they won't just let their digimon handle evrything and will (attempt) to throw down.
Yep, I also think back to Monster Rancher too, with the protag literally attacking monsters.
Digimon savers when Masaru has to literally punch the shit out of a digimon in order to get Agumon to Digivolve
@@meijinx9673literally the best thing the series ever did. Lol
Same as pokémon
Even in Adventure the kids aren’t always on the sidelines even Joe attempted to remove a black gear and he is considered the “wimpy one,” of that group.
This one's a classic. Fun fact, they actually did a twitch release "live view" for this episode, before RUclips had a streaming option for content creators. It was the first time they did this I believe. The funny thing about all this is apparently they didn't see the final parts of the animation where the finisher happened, because the animator wasn't finished with it until like the day of or something. So they weren't prepared for it when it happened live.
I think someone may have already pointed it out but battling is much different between the Pokémon World and the Digital World.
In the Pokémon World, battling is something like a hobby or sport. And you typically battle to become stronger and become a top trainer. And if a Pokémon loses a fight, usually a Trainer can just take them to a Pokémon Center or use potions/revives to heal them up.
In the Digital World, battling is all about survival. While in human world, Digimon are usually bonded to their Tamer with a strong friendship. Though in the Digital World, they sort of roam around and live "wild" in a sense. And losing to a stronger opponent in the Digital World means you could most likely be killed or eaten.
So, on that note, Digimon are going to go all out in their battles because their use to losing possibly resulting in death. Though, there is also the difference in the relationship between human and monster in both worlds.
In the Pokémon World, Pokémon have been shown to have a level of sentience that does allow them communicate in their own way with their Trainers being able to understand and communicate with them. Though mostly the relationship is that of a Master/Pet or Master/Slave though some of the canon lore did depict that in the "olden times" in the Pokémon universe, relationships between Trainers and their Pokémon were potentially much more intimate. Yes, that is actually a canon thing in Pokémon lore, but to quote a nice RUclips series; "that's a story for another day." Still, losing a battle doesn't really mean death and since it is akin to a sport, Trainers aren't going to be jumping in to throwing hands alongside their Pokémon.
In The Digital World, the bond between Tamers and their Digimon are that of a strong friendship. And the strength of their bond can make their overall power stronger as well. And since to Digimon, losing could mean death, there is a good chance their Tamers would potentially find some way to fight along with them to keep their Digimon from potentially getting killed.
So much wrong with this. First off most people are treated as actual companions not pets and pokémon do in fact die in battles, the fainting thing is a game mechanic and trainers can and sometime do fight along side there pokémon
@@reggielacey2235Actually, supposed "game mechanics" are canon, since they are consistently acknowledged in the only other continuity that is largely cared about, the TV series, and since the way status and 0% HP works spans across multiple continuities... The fact that you are claiming otherwise makes you look like one of two things I doubt you want to look like and hope you aren't, those being a televised edgelord who subscribes to those coma/purgatory conspiracies, and someone who makes liking Pokéspe, specifically the angsty fanfic parts, their entire personality. I would advise that you stop spouting this edgy nonsense and, if you are indeed one of those two things, that you better yourself to fit neither. Sincerely, a stranger whomst thou will most likely never meet.
@@reggielacey2235The fact you can have up to six on you at a time means that not all of them receive equal attention. The only one that most trainers bond with is their starter.
Not to mention most are just left in the PC never to be used once you get their Pokédex entry.
Plus, if you look at the Digimon Tamers show, a "Tamer" literally _did_ end up having their partner Digimon die outright. And it's not an off-screen death either, you actually _see_ said Digimon getting killed.
About the only times Digimon fights didn't end in death was during the initial File Island arc of the original anime, as most of the hostile Digimon were being controlled by Devimon's dark gears and thus were not in control of their actions, so those fights were more to free the afflicted Digimon than to just outright kill them.
Interestingly if you hear the music in the background during the explanation....that's the orginal opening for Digimon song is called butterfly
Yes yes yes!!! So happy you guys are watching this one!!. I'm a huge fan of both but Digimon has always been better due to its focus on trust, relationships, survival and finding yourself. So happy you guys get to experience it!!!
But pokemon does have trust and relationships
…….you’re my enemy now
@@SufferingSuccotashat the end of the day they still go back in the Pokeball. Yes, you can love, trust, and have a great relationship with you Pokemon, but not near the extent of Digimon where you are partners on equal footing
@krbchris26 I mean, they don't have to go in the ball, like pikachu.
Besides, they can go in and out whenever they want
@@beastlygamer21 I also did that for my dog, took care of it really good. But still was not on the level of my friends that I have made. Because at the end of the day its not about how much you take care of some one its whatever or not your on the same level as them.
Ya know... I always enjoyed Pokemon, so seeing Digimon in the past, I just figured it was a Pokemon ripoff. But I gave Digimon a chance and loved it. Both Pokemon and Digimon are great in their own ways
No matter what your feelings on Digimon is, they've definitely got a much catchier theme song lmao.
I think the Digimon series is better. But that's mostly because it tells a story. Whereas Pokémon is mostly a "monster of the week" type. There is a story being told over the course of the show, but it's not like you'll miss much if you don't see an episode. Of course, Pokémon games are much more successful and it is one of the most successful franchises in history. I don't think it's losing much in that regard.
I think the original Digimon and Pokemon products were being made about the same time... Digimon were originally little virtual pet devices, like Tamagotchi, while Pokemon was an RPG game... You could argue that, while they have similarities, they had different developments... Monster Rancher maybe came a bit later, I think... It had some interesting gimmicks though and was probably different enough... I don't think I would call any of them rip-offs exactly... But yeah... Kinda interesting that three similar, but different products all came about to have similar anime around the same time... Well, I guess it was a trend, so not that weird...
@@CaptainCFalcondepends,sub or dub?
@@blaze048 The dub song is pretty catchy, but it's not that great. The sub though? Better all round music, not as catchy but way better to listen to over an over. That's pretty much how it goes for all the Digimon shows.
I love tai and Greymon, pokemon was cool but to me, digimon is S Tier
@zirath17better Monster designs too
@zirath17nah
@@We_Have_Dragons100%
The pokemon games are objectively better but going back to that time period. I myself loved pokemon the games I hated the anime. Whereas while I really didn't like any of the digital games I did like the anime.
@@0potion i liked both, the pokemon games ate definitely better than the digimon games. But the storyline of Digimon is way better. The creators had a limited vision and executed their vision perfectly
Fun fact: Nathan Sharp/Natewantstobattle, does both the music for this fight and voices Red!
Can't wait for you to do Goro Vs. Machamp, probably the best Pokemon Death Battle so far.
By a wide margin too!
So a couple facts about Digimon. 1. Digimon are living packets of computer data. They are created by the data deleted off of our computers and because of that they vary wildly in design and concepts. It also means every human on earth has a potential Digimon partner of their very own.
2. Digimon can slide all over the place, and from/to any stage of growth. Sometimes they can even become different Digimon of the same level in a process called Slide Evolution.
3.Most Digimon are basically wild and feral. While there are plenty of nice friendly Digimon, there are also plenty that will kill on site, and yes i said kill.
And also Digimon evolution is not necessarily linear, as depending on the surroundings and circumstances evolution can be something else. Granted DB were using the first show as reference material and what was known around the time of production.
Digimon existed before computers. They just existed as yokai,demons,spirits that were summoned trough magic or sorcery or were subjugated in Japan via the ancient art of onmyodo. Ethereal beings that in the present have become tangible and visible through digital means. Digimon also inhabit higher layers of existence that transcend the Human World. Humans discovered Digimon and the Digital World when they created computers, tapping into a small part of the Digital World
Actually in Adventure and Survive Digimon are the counterpart of their human partners and the other half of their souls. In ancient times Digimon were recognized as yokai,shikigami,spirits. Ethereal beings that have become tangible and visible through digital means.
Tai throwing punches might seem out of left field, but him and his second-in-command Matt got in fights with each other lots and taking swings was something that happened a few times. Meanwhile, Ash tried to take a swing at Mewtwo once (which went poorly) and the most he does is tackle people that he has disagreements with. Since he's comparable to Red, it's likely that he'd be unprepared to duke it out.
Don't forget that one episode in Adventure 2 where TK just kicks the shit out of Ken.
@matthewdykeman8149 Yeah, our boy TK took a whip to the face and responded by knocking Ken flat on his ass.
The comedy was great and love how Tai just went to beat the crap out of Red but I think they made the winner too obvious too soon in this fight. Charizard was going all out already while Greymon still had 2 transformations waiting.
Charizard shoulda and woulda lost conventionally to a _normal_ Greymon anyhow. Giving anything more is the literal definition of overkill.
@@katomamundara8106 I know that but my point still stands.
@@katomamundara8106 Most likely Death Battle knew that, too. They basically admit that Metal Greymon would be more than enough to win in the analysis at the end. But if they didn't show another form, it would be sort of disappointing for people who wanted to see War-Greymon in a Death Battle.
@@saltyk9869 They could've shown Wargreymonin in the last 30 seconds after Metalgreymon beat charizard to a pulp just to assert dominance
@@katomamundara8106Exactly. Outside of Numemon, the average champion could take out a fully powered Pokémon who is at a 100 level.
Comparing a series where you ensl*ve monsters who can't talk and put them in container for competitions and a series where monster and human have to fight to death to save two worlds are unfair itself lololol
I agree when you have any attachment to the characters, the deaths are brutal. Especially this with kids involved. But that's the point of Death Battle and I kinda appreciate too that they stick to the format no matter what.
Not always. There's at least one instance I can think of where they went pretty easy with the loser's death. Specifically one of the ones featuring a character from RWBY.
Although the most brutal one involving kids was probably the one with Justin Bieber and Rebecca Black or whatever lol.
@@KitsyX Justin Bieber? I don't know if I watched that 😅. Maybe I did but there are so many that I forget about some.
The dog was like "Must. Eat. Mommy's. Ear!"
Digimon is just on a different level of power.
Even the most powerful pokemon have stats that can be quantified and weaknesses that can be exploited.
Digimon are more like characters of myth and lore, they can beomes unbelievably powerful and can't really be measured.
Its a lot like comparing Dragon Ball characters to DC characters.
It's also exciting that Tai interfered and punches Red...because the characters in the Pokemon world are incredibly naive and the characters in Digimon..they were all kids who had to deal with this extreme situation and matured early because of it.
Slave is the wrong term I think... it's more like a mixture of pet and employee that you use and then pack away again. But yeah Boomstick was right..
Yeah. In most cases, the relationship between a Trainer and their Pokemon has the Trainer as the one in charge. A Tamer and their Digimon however are best friends and equals, with neither being superior to the other, and a Tamer would do anything to help their Digimon and vice-versa. And while a Tamer usually only has one Digimon partner, there are rare instances of a Tamer having two or more Digimon partners (the protagonist of Digimon World: Next Order for instance has two Digimon partners rather than just one).
For those wondering what the music was once WarGreymon started fighting, it's from the game Xenoblade Chronicles X, it's a song called "Uncontrollable" which in-game plays whenever you enter combat with a "Tyrant" enemy (basically mid-bosses that are often well beyond your capabilities the first time you run into them).
Bethany's hair: *exists*
Pup: Finally. Some good freakin' food.
If you want to watch a friendship battle. Than I highly recommend Deadpool vs Pinkie Pie. It’s honestly really good and it was a nice thing to watch after countless deaths of your favorite character lol
I believe they have already watched that one.
Bethany: I don't want them to fight. I don't wanna see Charizard get skewered 😢. Lol. That's cute and understandable 😁.
But to be fair, Beth. Red started it. Tai just finished it 😉
In the digital world, every day fight is a life threatening situation, where if you lose you die. While compared to the pokemon world things are more tame. Thats why Tai attacked Red while the latter commented "we're not supposed to fight!".
*Tai. Takuya's from Frontier.
Theee days the matchup would be more one sided.
This is because Agumon has a new form called Bond of Bravery which washes Wargreymon out of competition.
As a fan of both, this outcome was gonna happen. I mean, Digimon was the first to do Mega Evolution (even if we didn't see Metalgraymon fight (ーー;) ) but also that Tai was gonna help by punching Red since we have seen him get physical in the show.
Same 2 words but different terminological use. Since that’s just comparing a natural stage of evolution to an circumstantial upgraded. Granted this was likely because for westerners the digimon stages of evolution were sorta changed and flip flopped around. With it going from Baby, Baby 2, Child, Adult, Perfect, Ultimate.
We did see Wargreymon fight he was in the animation lol
@@DIEFORME173 I meant Metalgraymon. My bad.
@@crcoghill ah ok
That is one clingy dog 😂
i always prefered Digimon. Just in the fact there was a story and these kids dealt with acutal death, loss, and real life issues like divorce, depression, finding out they were adopted, and stress. The kids fought knowing they could die. I get angry when people say Digimon is a rip off.
First DB when they killed a pet and a kid all in one episode 😭
Digimon will always be cooler than Pokemon because they're not afraid to kill monsters in their show
They had to just to stay alive. Kill or be killed.
Knowing both franchises really sells this battle as someone bringing a knife to nuclear warfare and having the pokemon fans cheer on the guy with a knife
"CALL OFF YOUR DRAGON!"
proceeds too beat him up not giving him a chance too call of his dragon.
They wanted to add Tai throwing punches at Red just to show the idea of "charizard needs a trainer", but that was hardly necessary, Wargreymon defeated threats like MetalSeadramon and MachineDramon within moments.
Charizard might be awesome, but WarGreymon is on a completely different level.
Tai punching someone is something that actually happens more time than I wish to remember.
If I remember correctly, there's one episode Tai huge heavy stick to fight other Digimon to protect..... Mimi?? TK?? It was way too long ago. I may be mixing things up.
And then there was the time he jumped on the back of a Bakémon and started raining punches down upon him.
As someone that has grown up with both, I was gonna win and lose no matter who the victor was.
It did sting me seeing my favorite Pokémon die like that, but at least my 2nd favorite Digimon won. (The Guilmon line being my absolute favorite)
But hey, it’s all in good (morbid) fun of Death Battle.
And I know you didn’t ask about it, so I’ll just state this as a bit of trivia regarding the relationship between the 2 franchises.
Way back in the day, Digimon started out as like a Tamagatchi toy in Japan. Tamagatchi being these little devices that show little creatures you can take care of like a real life pet (play pretend basically). Meanwhile, Pokémon games and eventually anime came out a little bit after, and became a Worldwide Phenomenon. Digimon eventually did as well when it’s own anime came into being, but unfortunately, it just didn’t get a big enough following as Pokémon did, to the point where people just called it a Pokémon-ripoff. Thankfully that died over the past 2 decades, but Pokémon is obviously still going strong as a worldwide brand, while Digimon has had some rough spots here and there.
Digimon may not be as popular as Pokémon, but I believe Digimon outshines Pokémon in a lot of aspects. Like story and characters mostly.
If you want to make reaction videos (or just check out on your own time) to look deeper into these franchises, then I suggest KingK for Pokémon games and Billiam for Digimon anime as they have retrospectives for them.
Puppy heard death battle and accepted the assignment 😂
Yeah honestly anyone whos seen Digimon and Pokemon knew this was no contest Digimon are on a whole other level. Heck some at the Rookie/child stage like Agumon could probably take down a fully evolved Mega Charizard, and I don't mean Agumon just a Digimon at that level. Lucemon being the obvious reference
Frankly I found Digimon more adultish or frightening...cause in se 2 there is a scene where a powerful Digimon returns and the first thing that sicko does is tests his telepathy and torture his minion...in Japanese the talk is darker than English dubbing
Only a fool would think Legendary Pokemon can throw hands with Mega Digimon
I tremendously love both series so I felt torn but I will say this
*_*DIGIMON IS JUST AS HYPE AND MEMORABLE AS POKÉMON! SOME OF YOU GUYS JUST AREN'T READY FOR THAT CONVERSATION*_*
When I first heard this battle was going to yo allow Agumon to go all the way to mega I just laughed so hard. There's just no comparison.
Your average Mega level could destroy continents. For comparison ,weak Ultimates can level mountains.
Digimon power scaling can be insane. Basically, all versions of Angemon are on the tier above. His Ultimate form was battling Mega forms and holding his own.
@@saltyk9869
Holy and Devil digimon tend to be like that, especially in the most recent stuff.
The funny thing is Wargraymon isn't it's final form while red and charizard lacked any real bond to go the extra mile
Even if they were equally matched it would have gone the same way, Digimon are immortal and will fight to kill, when Digimon die they're reborn with a few small changes so no fear of death
Digimon are kinda immortal when they die the get reset so they don't remember their past life ..... but they can die and never get reborn like how Wizardmon, Pumpkinmon and Gotsumon all die in the human world... also in tamers absorbing that data when a digimon dies also prevents them from being reborn and that happens alot
@@keanugibson3753Wormon remembered Ken.
The one with the power of friendship won!
i heard mr picolo voice when red was geting punched saying "DODGE"
Yeah little did Red know Tai also knew Mega Punch lol
Ken: “Where’s the friend battle? Where’s the friend making one?”
Me: *having flashbacks to Deadpool vs pinkie pie.
If your looking for more Ark content there are some battle videos where people put creatures from different mods against each other. They often have custom animations and so are really cool to watch!
Kumama games is the best channel for that.
God I remember being so hyped from the digimon movie, tai blowing the whistle, the music kicking in... badass
I like to think Pokemon Manga Red would have a better shot... but he uses Venasaur so would still probably use, but he'd at least punch Tai
Yeah, the manga is way darker, and thematically more similar to Digimon than the games or anime, but it is more limited for red in terms of power scaling, far as I remember
If you guys want a truly difficult to predict deathbattle, Deadpool vs Pinkie Pie. That and Deadpool vs The Mask. All the characters are so bizarre that the fights are genuinely difficult to guess. Other good (maybe more predictable) fights include Voltron vs Power Rangers, Hulk vs Broly, and the Megaman Battle Royale.
The little doggy looked like a baby goat for while. XD
Digimon is overall a stronger fictional universe by an insane regard
The awesome music when Wargreymon appears is from Xenoblade X btw.
Digidinosaurs and digipeople do get along sometimes.
Great video, I was on side of Digimon too! Try that DB with Satan (from Dragon Ball!) vs that other guy, who's name I can't remember! It was super funny!
Dan Hibiki from Street Fighter
For all you Pokémon haters in the comments…
Pokémon🤝Digimon
I expected such reaction, coz difference is huge!
Everything starts from age rating: Pokemons have max 15+, but Digimons - 20+!
Pokemons are just like sportsmen only! They don't know much about how to survive or protect their homes! They also don't know what to do without a trainer! And if they die, they will not comeback.
But Digimons know who to do it, and when digimon is dieing, they will be turned into digi egg to be revived again!
Digimons are more warriors than Pokemons! They are more like humans than pokemons. They can talk, eat, cook, dance and etc. like humans!
They have access to all languages, so they can speak freely! For example, Floramon like French more than the others, coz she thinks it is most lovely and beautiful language.
So, having a Digimon it is like you have another sister or brother from other world!
Will be cool if you will start watching Digimons with eng subs, coz dub is not very good! Plus. You can also play in Smash or Pass or you can make a Tier List, especially for DigiWaifus!😊
The major difference between Pokémon and Digimon are that Pokémon are animals, while Digimon are capable of civilization and society, ranging from tribal to sophisticated.
That and most Digimon vastly overpower most Pokémon.
Pokemon series/seasons end with a big tournament. Digimon series end with a life or death battle against an apocalyptic foe trying to destroy one or both worlds *Digital and Real worlds*. Apocalymon, MaloMyotismon, The D-Reaper, Lucemon, Belphemon *merged with a genocidal human*, Bargamon, *OVA: we had a conflict between Yggdrasil and Harmony (two programs) resulting in existential horrors and a giant naked woman called Ordinemon trying to expand the Digital world into the human world through force, and then the reboot used Milleniummon (like the Manga did ages ago), and the current series...is still on-going but every other Digimon is trying to kill people or something so still guesses who the final FINAL foe will be.
I mean the games usually cap off with some huge region, world, or universe threatening event
This episode really hurts your soul lol
But something digimons reach the “It beats Goku” level.
An idea for a Death Battle that has been around for a while is “Gogeta vs Omnimon”, and Omnimon is the fusion between WarGreymon and MetalGarurumon. Just to give an idea of the power levels here.
Digimon will remain above any other anime for me ❤
They are literal digital code and human emotions infused within them. Digimons are your partners not your pets and their energies comes from trust and bond you have within them. When a digimon dies its over in a batte thus the amount of levels it can go to. I am glad it didn’t got to the point that Tai had to digivolve it to Omnimon. Imagine the wreck it would have caused.
Pokemons were mostly designed and built for battles while almost every kind of mega level Digimons were designed capable of mass destruction. Also, Death Battles' results were made of by votes, so they're not that accurate, whoever had more fan wins.
Death Battle results are based on feats, while a second version, forget what it's called, is by votes.
I would love you guys to watch the first part of the digimon movie where Tai is a young child with Kairi. It's so cute. the second part that takes place after the original series takes place is good too, but it would be better to watch the original series before that part to get context. It's not a long segment. But you will definitely get an idea of how different Digimon is compared to Pokemon tone wise.
The power difference that Digimon has over Pokemon is ridiculous.
Most Mega level Digimon are god level in power
There are groups of Digimon who are all Mega levels like
The Royal Knights
The Olympos 12
The Seven Demon Lords
For example Lucemon who is the Demon of Pride is based off Lucifer from the bible.
Oh and Agumon's Mega level Wargreymon is not the only Mega level he can achieve his evolution line can branch off into unique and different Greymons. The Angumon evolution line has some of the most powerful mega level Digimon and one of them is a Royal Knight Digimon.
Not to mention the Celestial Trio.
IF you want a "friendly" Death Battle try Pinkie Pie vs Deadpool
They reacted to that
Iirc the animator for this fight went into a podcast later and introduced himself saying "I killed Charizard"
That whittle white puppy is just a little guy, so cute, I’m more of a dog person myself
You guys should totally give Digimon a watch I would start with the first,second and third season and maybe give the 4th and 5th season a watch
Cute doggy btw and great video btw
Bethany had the same reaction as most people.
This battle ends in such a gruesome way that almost no other battles have captured (no pun intended) 😂
I don't want to say "I told you so", but I warned you that the Pokémon Death Battles are brutal
Pokemon will always be more popular but Digimon will always be better as a series.
12:22 words no one that has seen Digimon would ever say.
Exactly, they are partners.
the reason they did the Charizard getting BLOODY DESTROYED.
I think its a punch to the gut against the American/English localization of Digimon.
If you... Search Digimon stuff directly from Japanese, you get the thing unfiltered, and it is very deep and dark.
While the American version... is Dumbed down and censored SO MUCH for Children to the point that is almost an insult (really)
Small example: Wargreymon´s Claws, they are called "Dragon Killers" Literally.
But in the American translation they are called "Dra-Mon Destroyers"... which is Uuuuhhggg, why?
Also other stuff like one scene where Wargreymon cuts a digimon in Half and in English Agumon says "You´ve been cut like Tofu!"
And in the Japanese Original Version he says "Ill never loose, Because I have Tai and Kairi... and all of my friends on my side!"
That's why I prefer watching Digimon in Japanese
The "Dragon Killers" are called Dramon Killers in Japan so that part wasn't censored, as Dramon's are a specific types of Dragon Digimon in the series...
@@V-Jes Its Dragon, Dramon is the censor
But Yes Dramons are a thing too, but those claws are Dragon Killers
@TheMaxCloud nope, it's name in Japanese is ドラモンキラー what reads doramon kilaa, while dragon would be ドラゴン/doragon with the first o's being overall silent on both, meaning it's always supposed to be dramon.
@@V-Jes Mmm well I guess it must´ve been a very old mistranslation, always thought it was Dragon Killers, not Dramon Killers...
I feel like you should do videos of you guys watching the digimon shows it was so great
Digimon also works with Neoplatonic Emanationism.
What does Neoplatonic Emanationism mean?
The adopted concept of Platonism is that there is a higher reality, a true abstract existence that is responsible for all that is individual to exist. The concept of emantionism is that there are in fact innumerable layers of reality, one more abstract than the other, but in the end with all arising from a single higher and absolute layer.According to Emanationism, Creation occurs by a process of
emanation - "out-flowing". The entire cosmos, and even all the gods and godheads beyond the cosmos, have come about through emanation. Just as the ocean forms its surface into waves, so the absolute forms create successive manifestations, successive entities. And these in turn create - or rather, emanate - further entities, and so on, with all these entities combining and interacting in the extraordinary network of existence.
Emanationism is an idea in the cosmology or cosmogony of certain religious or philosophical systems. Emanation, from the Latin emanare meaning "to flow from" or "to pour forth or out of", is the model by which all things are derived from the first reality, or principle.
All things are derived from the first reality or perfect God by steps of degradation to lesser degrees of the first reality or God, and at every step the emanating beings are less pure, less perfect, less divine.
One could think of the relationship between each of these levels as being like "body and soul", "spirit and matter", or "creator and creature", in that each higher level is the soul, spirit, and creator of the level immediately below it; and the body, matter, and creature (created being) of the level immediately above it. The inhabitants of the higher worlds act like the souls of those in the lower worlds. (imgur.com/a/60iJBPJ)
Basically the structure of existence is divided into several layers with a physical and metaphysical difference between the layers.To each level of existence, there is a higher level with this physical/metaphysical difference. Our physical bodies have
souls, souls have other souls (I will call it the second soul), the second soul has a third soul, and so on. Digimon follows the same cosmology, the world is structured in a multi-layered hierarchy.When it comes to Digimon's cosmology, the worlds are not simply side-by-side of each other (or all over the place). Digimon goes by a world hierarchy (that have been called layers, levels, etc), meaning the worlds go vertically, up and down. The Human World for example is a part of that hierarchy, and it happens to be at the very bottom.
The worlds of the Human World would be side-by-side, horizontally. With the worlds of the Digital World also existing horizontally within its layers (the DW is made up of various layers), but the entire Digital World itself is beyond the Human World (all of them) because it's in a hierarchical position superior to it. Due to the Human World being at the very bottom, any world that's a part of the hierarchy (layers beyond the HW) would be beyond the Human World. This can start before even touching the Digital World. The Human World is your classic infinite multiverse.
Every possible world has emerged in a multi-layered way...and the worlds quite similar yet different to one another lie side-by-side. ( imgur.com/a/rTO5DYx )
In short, it's nothing akin to universes in parallel to one another, which a superficial knowledge of all this stuff would lead to, nor is it the difference in between the Real and the Virtual/Digital, posited by the V-Pets and by anything following the lore of the V-Pets, but the relationship between a higher plane of existence and the one that's emanated from it. It's vertical, not horizontal. The Digital World is a plane of existence in which the otherwise poorly defined "soul", or the essence, of humans can take physical form.
I've used this example elsewhere but I guess I can use it here as well. This example uses "threads" and "posts" on sites.Imagine each thread to be a layer (such as this one), with the posts within each thread being universes. The layers are a part of the world hierarchy.
They're obviously many threads on the first page, with each one being a layer with universes within them.The lowest thread would be the lowest layer, equivalent to the Human World. Each post within this thread (layer) would be universes/timelines. This layer alone is basically your classic infinite multiverse. It would be the lowest, smallest, etc, layer.Each thread (layer) is superior to the last. So the second to the last thread would be superior, and the one above that would be superior to everything below it. This goes on until the very top.
You might be able to see each "page" as another collection of worlds, such as the Homeros' Digital World, the third Digital World, possibly Witchelny, etc. These worlds should be in a similar position to Yggdrasill's Digital World, which transcends the Human World (so Yggdrasill's DW would be beyond a HW, Homeros' DW would be beyond a HW, etc). In fact, according to Re Digitize (Decode), they're a variety of Digital Worlds, and all of them transcend the Human Worlds (each should have a Human World below them). We don't know how many layers would make up those worlds though (we don't know much about these worlds in general. Most worlds we've seen have been a part of Yggdrasill's DW).I believe verses like Umineko and the Dark Tower use similar logic with layers.
What's important is that today we learnt about true friendship, through explicit murder of kids 😅
The ending reminded me of Genshin travail: "The victor will shine brightly while the loser will turn to ash."
It would be amazing if you guys watch pokemon origins. Its 4 episodes long and its red’s whole journey as a pokemon trainer
Finally a digimon reaction. I wish you two react to Digimon evolution...... all of 'em.
Yeah. A pokemon is never gonna beat a digimon.
*coughs*
20:38 pinkiepie vs deadpool
This one is realistically such an unreasonable stomp it's almost unfair
great video. but i never understand why they change the soundtrack back in the days. even we in germany got the original soundtrack, just with german Lyrics
Fun video as always. Who's the new puppers?
Still waiting on Thor vs Vegeta.
Charizard:mega evolve
Wargreymon:this is hilarious "Throws gaia force at Charizard"
Warp digivolving here is kinda overkill in my opinion. MetalGreymon could have easily take Charizard on.
Yes, but it was to give more excitement to the fight and they still did not use the bond of valor form or the new metal greymon 2020 mode
Hehehe, this was very interesting, I recommend Renamon vs Lucario at some point.
Also, I recommend Tanjiro vs Jonathan and/or SpongeBob SquarePants vs Aquaman at some point.
Pokemon was inspired by animals, while Digimon was partially inspired by superheroes (which is why even t-rexes look like they do arm curls). Pitting a Pokémon against a Digimon is like pitting the most dangerous animal you know of against Superman.
Charizard's was doomed the moment he mega evolved
The friendship battle? That'd be pinky pie vs deadpool