@@jacoboranday7078 mat he’s the only one giving an actual reason u like a lot of RUclipsrs. Zak made 0 good reasoning on his points at all in this video in my opinion. He said that yellow gogeta still has the option of assault chain so it’s not bad but him having assault chain literally is a replacement of cover null but you can only chain for a short time .
@@luisthefishyyt7047 personally, I don’t think gogeta needs a gofrieza buff but the assault chain in general definitely does. Gogeta’s good at EVERYTHING but the main thing he’s meant to do
@@luisthefishyyt7047Brother...The only diffrence of gogeta and vegito is the unique ability. The damage output and etc is almost exact. They both deserve no buffs nothing. Both of those units are number 1. It comes down to preferences.
The only thing I’d want is card on entry for gogeta and being able to go into assault chain off of green card hit. It’s so annoying when people can kill your combo if they switch into gohan or UI when you hit green. Completely kills his gimmick for me.
@@jasonmussck3794 definitely not, Vegetto's way better. You're saying "everything except the ability is the same", but first, that's not entirely true, and second, the abilities ARE THE PROBLEM. Vegetto gets a guaranteed kill with his ability, while Gogeta's is useless 99% of the time and also prevents you from doing more damage.
i mean it makes sense cuz gogeta’s assault chain is very situational and it forces you to potentially end your combo after landing a few hits and the ability itself isn’t even that good on top of that gogeta has 0 cover null not even mentioning his bad design that doesn’t syn with his melee card based assault chain
As a f2p that just started to play this game for about a week who got both vegito and gogeta, I was able to push myself to rank 60 no problem. Ultra gohan is the most annoying individual I’ve ever encounter and I personally is gonna put him at 1st place while vegito and gogeta go second and third. UI and golden frieza can be either 4th or 5th. As for the others idc because every team I face is just ultra gohan vegito and gogeta☠️☠️
i can understand that you think gohan is so broken,but if u get some game knowledge,you will see he isnt the worst enemy and he wont be top 1 for u anymore
Something that I think most people dont know who dont watch goresh (which makes sense) is that he plays on JP SERVERS. wildly different landscape where the majority of players have higher starred characters and different rosters on average than on the NA or Europe servers. Thats why he see's so much more fusing vegitos because hes more popular in Japan than Gogeta where as in the west, after Broly dropped Gogeta exploded in popularity.
I really think they should’ve included his green and blue cards in gogetas assault chain. Feels weird to me the character whose gimmick is to ignore strike gauges still in some scenarios has to play around strike gauges.
him not having a long range blue and or green is madness, wouldve loved to make a long ranged green that force draws a blast wouldve added so much to the character.
@@chrisbendross6229 it’s just so annoying to hit your green as they switch to gohan or IU then your whole combo is cooked. Really kills the feel of the unit.
FSV basically got a version of G4s Revive Disruption plat. FSV gets endurance null and G4 gets another 2 DBs(4 including the unique and 20% health), is the difference on the disrupt.
Idk why they are mad at it but after two ultra units super vegito deserves this. UL Super Gogeta have the abilities to pull the ultimate when only he is in the battle field, his unique gauge gives him HP Draws a special move. On the other hand if you will se UL Super Vegito he just got a counter green card and a counter to blast or tap shot with unique gauge. Similiarly, UL Gogeta Blue gets special move whenever he uses green card and his gauge saves him from attacks. On the other hand UL Vegito Blue just got a countering green card and reduces vanishing by 0. I have pulled fusing gogeta blue but I'll say this time vegito deserves better like nullifying element, Getting ki by 10℅ when the card draws and many more with the goat ability guaranteed rush. Overall, This time vegito deserves the Top 1 meta.
Yamcha is valid idc what you say. Yamcha is crazy and they put respect on him. Just cuz nobody summoned and you don't see him doesn't change the fact hes wild.
Literally almost one shotted Them with Zamasu blue and my enemy decided to tag out to vegeta thinking he would heal but the uppercut killed him and he forfeited 😭
Bombku is still good, before I pulled the new units I was running zenkai G4, bombku and LF 17 and was running threw the FG and FV you just need zenkai buffs and decent equips
as u can see my pf i know why gogeta is low bc compared to vegito it anin't gonna cut it bc vegito gets a gurented kill once he fused and gets a good amount of color null then gogeta
What if the first strike was meant to work like pikkon/gogeta’s long distance blue? Meaning if you catch opponent in a sidestep, you activate assault chain first strike
I’ve used fusing gb and sv together for like hundreds of time, I’m relatively high ranking in the pvp rn and tbh I don’t really feel any problem that goresh mentioned when using GB lol, am I the only one that thinks the assault chain could combo more without any interruption is better than side stepping or charging step 💀💀💀.
No you ain't 😭,assault chain literally saves me in most situations tbh But nah I have a feeling they gonna buff gogeta,people start to overhate him so much to the point he could get a buff like lf g4 and gofrieza
@@a1saiyan382 I think they won’t lol, even goresh said gogeta doesn’t need a buff, the only problem he has is assault chain is not “good enough “, but other aspects of the character is op as hell
@@VCDragonBallLegends I can see them giving him a plat for some base stats,base health and the 3rd slot to make him get a strike 4 or 5 times when he hits with a strike card,something like lf vb
I was waiting on you to reply….. but @thedummy got a perfect list… but 🟢 Ultra gohan is 3 and 🔴 17 it’s 4 but 🟡 The Baby I put him in the top 10 he good….. and number 2 🟣 Frieza and Number 1 you know what I am about to say 🔴 Beast GOHAN #1… because new characters drop don’t mean you drop them….. go play with Beast…. You will see…. Now let me watch this videos let go Zak…. You keep it real
9:24 I do see Red beast though.... Btw ,in my opinion the new GB is No.3 at best. If I see someone putting him at No.4 ,I would have no issue agreeing with that person but I don't think he is No.5.
You have no idea how poor gogeta is compared to vegito and the rest of the ultras. He only compares to ULTRA UI, everyone else he gets washed out. Be real with yourself
@@jalenweston2378 Gogeta is just better than vegito,he have good strike,good defense end a mechanic power for gohan ultra end ui ultra goku,vegito just rush, rush is just sh.t
I have fought a total 114 Gogeta's and a total of 58 Vegito's in Battle Rank 70+. Also, we're talking about being among the top 400 players in the game.
Judging by the way you play in the videos you posted YOU ARE NOT EVEN CLOSE TO 70 rank. Stop lying. To be fair i would be surprised if you even managed to hit rank 60."Also, we're talking about being among the top 400 players in the game"🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@luisthefishyyt7047 I think he is top two, I find him and Vegito neck neck, and I find him doing a better job than uui and Gohan ball legends 2 and I used them on the same team but swapped uui with broly since uui is a glass canon. He needs a bit of a buff, Goresh really doenplayed him a lot, probably wanted to find a reason to put Frieza in top 3 since he is his favorite character.
hear me out i aint gonna say his list is bad but it misses some things lemme fix it 1- super vegito 2- ultra gohan 3- ssb gogeta 4- ultra ui 5- ultra frieza 6-super 17 7- napgeta 8- super gauge 2 9- paikogeta 10 - bombku
it is 14 stars so goresh is completely right you cant one combo with ssb gogeta uui or ultrahan with 4-5 cards plus they can just switch when they become low at 14 stars not that hard to understand
@@BlazeGotDonut i did get shafted but his ult does 0 damge im not a lier i dont have any reds too im so not scared of uui now he used to one shot my gofreiza when i used them
I liked his list by the way. I timestamped it so you can skip accordingly. It is a long video haha (Watch the whole thing or 100 years of shaft)
Broski I’m about to watch this in school 😭🙏
The thing about goresh when it comes to units. He's a LOE fan boy. He's very bias when it comes to LOE
@@jacoboranday7078 I would assume so, but I’d like to think he’s reasonable when it comes to units on his list.
Facts bro
@@jacoboranday7078 mat he’s the only one giving an actual reason u like a lot of RUclipsrs. Zak made 0 good reasoning on his points at all in this video in my opinion. He said that yellow gogeta still has the option of assault chain so it’s not bad but him having assault chain literally is a replacement of cover null but you can only chain for a short time .
Why do people think Top 5 is bad tho? It's 5th place out of literally hundreds of characters, he's still a fucking AMAZING unit, I'm not complaining
Exactly and people saying he need a buff like gofrieza when gokufrieza was completely different and bad bad on release
@@luisthefishyyt7047 personally, I don’t think gogeta needs a gofrieza buff but the assault chain in general definitely does. Gogeta’s good at EVERYTHING but the main thing he’s meant to do
@@luisthefishyyt7047Brother...The only diffrence of gogeta and vegito is the unique ability. The damage output and etc is almost exact. They both deserve no buffs nothing. Both of those units are number 1. It comes down to preferences.
The only thing I’d want is card on entry for gogeta and being able to go into assault chain off of green card hit. It’s so annoying when people can kill your combo if they switch into gohan or UI when you hit green. Completely kills his gimmick for me.
@@jasonmussck3794 definitely not, Vegetto's way better. You're saying "everything except the ability is the same", but first, that's not entirely true, and second, the abilities ARE THE PROBLEM. Vegetto gets a guaranteed kill with his ability, while Gogeta's is useless 99% of the time and also prevents you from doing more damage.
i mean it makes sense cuz gogeta’s assault chain is very situational and it forces you to potentially end your combo after landing a few hits and the ability itself isn’t even that good on top of that gogeta has 0 cover null not even mentioning his bad design that doesn’t syn with his melee card based assault chain
People stoped using beast Gohan and they forgot what a cluch unit he is
Fr i still use him at 8 stars
They got it twisted he’s still him
he was top 4 used nobody stopped using him just people arent biased
Clutch*
Just shut up man, he's fkin ahh.
As a f2p that just started to play this game for about a week who got both vegito and gogeta, I was able to push myself to rank 60 no problem. Ultra gohan is the most annoying individual I’ve ever encounter and I personally is gonna put him at 1st place while vegito and gogeta go second and third. UI and golden frieza can be either 4th or 5th. As for the others idc because every team I face is just ultra gohan vegito and gogeta☠️☠️
Same you got discord need to add new people I’m new aswel
Thank God you didn’t play when UVB was released💀 we just put the phone down and watch him cook
UVB rlly wasnt that deep, Gofrieza was way more annoying
i can understand that you think gohan is so broken,but if u get some game knowledge,you will see he isnt the worst enemy and he wont be top 1 for u anymore
14 star tier list max value so goresh is correct also japan meta is different than europe meta
Something that I think most people dont know who dont watch goresh (which makes sense) is that he plays on JP SERVERS. wildly different landscape where the majority of players have higher starred characters and different rosters on average than on the NA or Europe servers. Thats why he see's so much more fusing vegitos because hes more popular in Japan than Gogeta where as in the west, after Broly dropped Gogeta exploded in popularity.
yeah i tried to explain that throughout the whole video. his premise is different to ours
@@chrisbendross6229 why does he play on jp servers?
Happy to watch your content again after my long break from this game. Still hypes me up about there game!
The goat fusion is number 1😭
A lie 😂😂😂😂 try again
Ui got amazing tools overall while gogeta needs to build up in order to fuse and do great which is why ui is just better.
If they just made the gauge require less cards that wouldve been an easy fix for gogeta and his card problems 😭
I really think they should’ve included his green and blue cards in gogetas assault chain. Feels weird to me the character whose gimmick is to ignore strike gauges still in some scenarios has to play around strike gauges.
him not having a long range blue and or green is madness, wouldve loved to make a long ranged green that force draws a blast wouldve added so much to the character.
@@chrisbendross6229 it’s just so annoying to hit your green as they switch to gohan or IU then your whole combo is cooked. Really kills the feel of the unit.
FSV basically got a version of G4s Revive Disruption plat.
FSV gets endurance null and G4 gets another 2 DBs(4 including the unique and 20% health), is the difference on the disrupt.
Idk why they are mad at it but after two ultra units super vegito deserves this.
UL Super Gogeta have the abilities to pull the ultimate when only he is in the battle field, his unique gauge gives him HP Draws a special move. On the other hand if you will se UL Super Vegito he just got a counter green card and a counter to blast or tap shot with unique gauge.
Similiarly,
UL Gogeta Blue gets special move whenever he uses green card and his gauge saves him from attacks. On the other hand UL Vegito Blue just got a countering green card and reduces vanishing by 0.
I have pulled fusing gogeta blue but I'll say this time vegito deserves better like nullifying element, Getting ki by 10℅ when the card draws and many more with the goat ability guaranteed rush. Overall, This time vegito deserves the Top 1 meta.
Yamcha is valid idc what you say. Yamcha is crazy and they put respect on him. Just cuz nobody summoned and you don't see him doesn't change the fact hes wild.
Literally almost one shotted Them with Zamasu blue and my enemy decided to tag out to vegeta thinking he would heal but the uppercut killed him and he forfeited 😭
Bombku is still good, before I pulled the new units I was running zenkai G4, bombku and LF 17 and was running threw the FG and FV you just need zenkai buffs and decent equips
Glad I pulled 3 copies of gogeta blue early in the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd step so I could quit pulling on that banner.
He’s not wrong though sometimes i don’t fuse in GB just because of the tag card draw speed.
YAMACH is not making my top 15 hell no 😂😂😂😂 for new players yes but not a OG 4 years strong 💪🏽
bro, ultra hit is still too cold😫🤤🤤
🔴 Ultra Hit need help 😂 2 years ago he was the truth but not now…I destroy him FACTS
@@SkyChristopherKing i still destroy ppl with him lightwork
Pfp self snitching.
as u can see my pf i know why gogeta is low bc compared to vegito it anin't gonna cut it bc vegito gets a gurented kill once he fused and gets a good amount of color null then gogeta
What if the first strike was meant to work like pikkon/gogeta’s long distance blue? Meaning if you catch opponent in a sidestep, you activate assault chain first strike
that'd make him. better ofc
I’ve used fusing gb and sv together for like hundreds of time, I’m relatively high ranking in the pvp rn and tbh I don’t really feel any problem that goresh mentioned when using GB lol, am I the only one that thinks the assault chain could combo more without any interruption is better than side stepping or charging step 💀💀💀.
No you ain't 😭,assault chain literally saves me in most situations tbh
But nah I have a feeling they gonna buff gogeta,people start to overhate him so much to the point he could get a buff like lf g4 and gofrieza
@@a1saiyan382 I think they won’t lol, even goresh said gogeta doesn’t need a buff, the only problem he has is assault chain is not “good enough “, but other aspects of the character is op as hell
I hope they do we need this fgb buff bad.
@@VCDragonBallLegends that's what goresh said,but the others say that he trash and worse than gofrieza pre buff
@@VCDragonBallLegends I can see them giving him a plat for some base stats,base health and the 3rd slot to make him get a strike 4 or 5 times when he hits with a strike card,something like lf vb
I be oneshotting the new fusions left right and center, if you thing they are the definitive number 1 and 2 your glazing
Zakashi bro please reply I am subscriber what is your prediction for part 2 lf and whate date for part 2
Probably a legends original or god Goku and rumors are that part 2 drops on the 19th this month
future. goku black zamasu. 19th
Let’s be honest goresh was tripping usually he’s pretty spot on but putting him in 5 and claiming I frieza is above anyone is just untrue
Top 6 now because of cmz
Doesn't change anything cuz he is a vegito victim+he is #1
@@a1saiyan382bro cmz can swallow vegito easily (not in gay way)
@@ohhellwhereami2574 1 combo from vegito and it's over
@@ohhellwhereami2574 ayo
I was waiting on you to reply….. but @thedummy got a perfect list… but 🟢 Ultra gohan is 3 and 🔴 17 it’s 4 but 🟡 The Baby I put him in the top 10 he good….. and number 2 🟣 Frieza and Number 1 you know what I am about to say 🔴 Beast GOHAN #1… because new characters drop don’t mean you drop them….. go play with Beast…. You will see…. Now let me watch this videos let go Zak…. You keep it real
He deserves to be 5th because of CMZ
9:24 I do see Red beast though....
Btw ,in my opinion the new GB is No.3 at best.
If I see someone putting him at No.4 ,I would have no issue agreeing with that person but I don't think he is No.5.
UUI gaps him
I don't know how to make it so I don't get anymore recommendations of that guy and there you are putting him on your video.
hour long video is wild
enjoy
I hardly run into gogeta in my experience
An hour and half long Vid?!?!! Ayyy we eating today bois😂
😐
26:56 W
Gohan being above than Gogeta Blue is alright.. But UI and UGF above him is a bit too much
Gogeta is top 1,vegito top 2,ultra golden frieza top 3,ultra gohan ssj2 end ultra ui goku top 5,goresh hate gogeta am sure for this.
14 star tier list and japan meta so goresh is correct and not putting ultrahan top 1 not even top 2 or putting 1a 1b is just glazing gogeta and vegito
Fix your 1 and 2 but good list
You have no idea how poor gogeta is compared to vegito and the rest of the ultras. He only compares to ULTRA UI, everyone else he gets washed out. Be real with yourself
@@jalenweston2378 👀👀👀👀👀
@@jalenweston2378 Gogeta is just better than vegito,he have good strike,good defense end a mechanic power for gohan ultra end ui ultra goku,vegito just rush, rush is just sh.t
Gogeta is mid, even baby at 10 stars or higher is better than him, y’all need to quit coping.
no
Gogeta is better by miles☠he is #1
Nah bro💀💀💀💀
Baby better yellow but overall aside from color wise gogeta has better kit
The glazers are coming for you😂
Did bro just say, "Astaghfrullah"?
I say it all the time
Gogeta is not the best. But he is top 5. I have him at number 4
I got them both 2 copies each with 4k now saving 6k right now
Nice i have 13k rn
Nice i spend 40k to get 1 gogeta and 7 star vegitto
@@ralopyused ll z power on vegito ? Otherwise w worth of the cc
You telling me u got 4 copies in 5 multies? I call cap
@simonmathews9981 i swear bro i really got them. I got vegito with 300 cc
Yes he's 5th.. yall so use to meat riding even when whis said himself vegito is superior..
Real
Bro this vid was a warzone
LMAOOO
saibaman is literally the best, yall are trippin hard
40:48 bro thinks he is red pan
Gogeta hardly top 10 😭
😂
3 stars gogeta> 10 stars gohan
@@bombatomica1002 💀
stretch.
BOMBOCLATT!!!!
I have fought a total 114 Gogeta's and a total of 58 Vegito's in Battle Rank 70+. Also, we're talking about being among the top 400 players in the game.
What do you think of them? Is gogeta significantly worse?
he also plays on JP servers where Vegito is more popular
Judging by the way you play in the videos you posted YOU ARE NOT EVEN CLOSE TO 70 rank. Stop lying. To be fair i would be surprised if you even managed to hit rank 60."Also, we're talking about being among the top 400 players in the game"🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@chrisbendross6229hes popular becuz he gaps gogeta by a mile
Me looking zakashi cook gogeta 👀
i highkey defended him tbf
Please everybody complain to legends so they buff GOATGETA like gofrieza
😂 be patient
He don’t need that dawg gokufrieza was just bad bad the sparking was better than him. gogeta is completely fine he still a top tier unit top 5
@@luisthefishyyt7047 I think he is top two, I find him and Vegito neck neck, and I find him doing a better job than uui and Gohan ball legends 2 and I used them on the same team but swapped uui with broly since uui is a glass canon. He needs a bit of a buff, Goresh really doenplayed him a lot, probably wanted to find a reason to put Frieza in top 3 since he is his favorite character.
@@yoavitanzehavy6244ok you you think he is top 2 and you him to be buffed what is that logic
@@yiohan9574 Goresh doesn't think he is top 2, he trash talks him like a local meathead bullying a tiny kid.
Barku, just….no
hear me out i aint gonna say his list is bad but it misses some things lemme fix it
1- super vegito
2- ultra gohan
3- ssb gogeta
4- ultra ui
5- ultra frieza
6-super 17
7- napgeta
8- super gauge 2
9- paikogeta
10 - bombku
it is 14 stars so goresh is completely right you cant one combo with ssb gogeta uui or ultrahan with 4-5 cards plus they can just switch when they become low at 14 stars not that hard to understand
First one to like and comment lol
First
How is goresh so delusinal to think uui look in is still a guarnted kill hes ult does 0 damge
If you ain’t got a 14 star UUI shut yo ass up. (That’s his basis)
@@Zakashi yo chill chill, stop cooking him!!
guess who's shafted on uui banner
@@BlazeGotDonut i did get shafted but his ult does 0 damge im not a lier i dont have any reds too im so not scared of uui now he used to one shot my gofreiza when i used them
@@mohamdlftat5207 Welp that's not my problem if your uui is lowstar