How a Catastrophic Illusion Caused this Boeing 737 to Crash Into the Ground | FlyDubai 981 | 4K
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- Опубликовано: 19 июн 2024
- Find out how this Boeing 737 crashed in an attempt to land during a storm in southern Russia.
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Actually, something similar happened to me years ago. I was flying out of a rural airport in Mississippi when shortly after take-off I unexpectedly entered a white out. I didn't have instrument training beyond the basics, but it had somehow been drummed into me that you MUST believe your instruments. So, here I was, enveloped in what looked like thick cotton wool, barely able to see the nose of the aircraft. I almost immediately felt that the plane had rolled to the left and was entering a kind of slip at very high speed. Looking at the instruments, though, I could see that the plane was flying straight and level, at no more than about 90 knots, no loss of altitude, no loss of direction. Yet the feeling that it was pulling to the left at high speed was almost overpowering. Had I believed that sensation, I would have corrected by rolling right and applying right rudder, which would have definitely brought the aircraft down. So, believe your instruments unless they are contradicting each other - which they weren't in this instance. Like Otcubaba below says, it's not just an optical illusion - your whole body is telling you that the aircraft is going in a certain direction, and we tend to believe our bodies. Which is a mistake in this situation.
Thank you, Sir.
Kudos to you. That must have taken some serious balls to have not gone with your 'instinct'.
The motion of clouds can easily give you the compelling illusion that they are stable and you are moving when you are in them. Had a similar experience on a mountain top.
I'm not a pilot, but reading this give me chills as i read the story you share. I can't think how terrifying it would be to witness, but you were saved by your muscle memories which is a good thing. Hope you doing good
Amazing! Thanks for the tip, it's great to know.
people underestimade or dont understand what that actually means. its an illusion that mostly happens at night with no visible fixation points , military jet pilots get extra training for this event because it can happen easily when taking off from a carrier ship at night. Its not only an optical illusion . what acutally happens is the whole body and mind of the pilot is telling him that the nose is pitching up and of course he should trust the instruments but at the same time you dont want to be fool who died because he put his life into the hands of some intruments. So at that moment his body his eyes his gut is telling him dude we are pitching up and gonna stall so do something about you are the pilot you are responsible , so he does what seems right to him at that moment.
Imagine sitting in a self driving car and you see how the car is driving towards a wall and you think this is 100% real and happening but the instruments tell you everything is fine , your brain kicks in and tells you to fucking grab the steering and change direction which actually leads you to crash into the wall while you were trying to avoid a disaster that was never going to happen.
That's horrible! So you don't know who to believe, the plane or what you see.( or don't see.)
Best description by far that I've seen with regard to spatial disorientation.
thats crazy man..i can picture the disorientation kind of like going upside down in the sky on a amusement park ride.. if you cant fix your eyes on something you won't know what's straight or up and then the vertical stall thing makes total sense..unfortunate they couldn't realize sooner and pull out of the dive
otcubaba 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼 best way to describe it
I am an instrument rated commercial pilot, and I have been disoriented at night, especially when that attitude indicator flopped over and played dead. I noticed that the DG was also showing strange readings so I immediately assumed the vacuum pump had failed. Fortunately I turned to the turn and slip indicator to keep the wings level, and watched the climb and descend indicator to keep the nose pointed straight forward. I would recommend that every airplane have two turn and slip indicators, at 90 degrees to each other. They are fail-safe, they don’t fail. The climb and descend indicator is sometimes called vertical speed indicator.
The view from inside the cockpit when the plane is barreling to the ground makes my stomach turn every time
same here
Yes, in an instant the Pilots see and act, but it is too late. It was a quicker 'end' than the Pilots of the JAL 747 that completely lost its' vertical tail section.
@@peterduxbury927 I just watched the crash animation, it was bad.
The pilot can't even jump out...like in a car.
@@29subhra
Still nearly impossible in a car ...
However a train engineer on the other hand, they actually have a shot if they jump, ... and jump they do.
"In reality they were taking a safe situation and turning it into a disaster."
That one sentence perfectly sums up the most unfortunate aspect of human nature and all of our ventures : *What we THINK we are doing vs what we ARE doing.*
Seems very close to the 737 software glitch to me.
Not only this but also ignorance.
@@TheRatlord74 : I thought that too, at first, until the end of the video which explained what actually happened. In this case, it wasn't an MCAS failure, but the failure of the pilots to ignore what their bodies were telling them and rely on their instruments. This kind of spatial disorientation is not uncommon. It's hard to resist the feeling that you're pointed in a certain direction even when your instruments are telling you otherwise. But resist it, you must. It's what killed JFK Jr., and it has happened to many other pilots, too, over the years.
That proves that the saying "trust your feelings" is not always truth.
@@Ultrajuiced All people have ignorance. It's natural and unavoidable. This is just a natural result.
That whoop whoop sound everytime an airplane about to crash is so traumatizing
Indeed it is, by the time you hear it, it is usually too late to recover...
Crazy if it said after pull up, pull up, pull up, too late your fucked, too late your fucked, too late your
P U L L U P
W O O P W O O P
P U L L U P
@@krispysback I shouldn't laugh but your comment was pretty fucking funny 😂😂😂
2 hour hold for windshear ? No. Divert to your alternate and land. Its freaking 3 am, you are running out of fuel and are tired. Thats a bad combination.
My thoughts exactly. Other planes were doing the same...
Grey Ghost This is PRECISELY what I said. Another case of “get-there-itis.” I wonder if there was a penalty/discipline from FlyDubai managers for diverting?
radtech21 I wonder too. I had a friend of mine killed doing this very thing. On the third approach they misjudged their position because of cockpit distraction and descended into a Mountain. I flew with the Pilot for a decade. He was a good stick. He is missed.
When we did a missed approach for weather we might do one more approach but after that we diverted. Weather does not change that fast plus fuel was a factor in the Passenger Jets I flew. The old DC9’s were gas hogs.
radtech21 normally flight managers don’t pressure their pilots to continue. It’s normally the Pilots decision. The Dispatchers May advise but it’s the Captains decision.
Miles C Actually I do know what Im talking about as I did it everyday (almost) for 33 years.
Very good presentation! I fly the B737NG iin the USA and I am also an active flight instructor in Cessnas and in the SIM. The error made by the pilot flying might be something committed by a low-time IFR pilot, but not an experienced B737 crew. But there must have been other factors. The simulator recreation will show you that the crew is afforded 3 independent systems to analyze heading, airspeed and attitude. A go around at full power does indeed induce Somatographic Illusion and that was well depicted here. However, the training programs of all airlines address this, and the proper procedure is to follow the missed approach profile.
The destination Rostov-on-Don had convective weather, so the crew was subjected to turbulence. Plus, it was a "redeye" (overnight) flight, and the Captain decided to hold for TWO HOURS after already being in the air all night! What was the FlyDubai Dispatcher doing? In airline operations, a Dispatcher shares responsibility with the PIC (Captain) as to the conduct of the flight, and should have offered the crew updates on weather and alternate courses of action. Why not follow Aeroflot to the alternate instead of burning 5000kg of his company's fuel and increasing the fatigue level of the crew?
Many airlines require their pilots to engage the autopilot almost immediately after takeoff, and only disengage it on short final. In many countries people do not have access to, or cannot afford, flying airplanes outside of their airline flying. The result is a deterioration in what is called "stick and rudder" manual flying skills. If FlyDubai was the type of airline that allows the pilots to hand-fly their 737s up to altitude and hand-fly approaches, the pilots would develop the "feel" for their airplane, and understand what "normal" and "abnormal" handlng feels like.
For all you IFR pilots out there: TRUST YOUR INSTRUMENTS! Cross-check the instruments, and if you are flying with another pilot, back your buddy up. In this accident case study, the Pilot Monitoring should have called out trends in pitch, airspeed, and altitude. There is never any reason for a 737 to be pointed 50 degrees nose down.
The video was very tastefully constructed, and should be used in airline training programs. Very well done!
The best comment on this video!
In icing conditions you cannot rely solely on the instruments e.g. West Air 294
These are very good observations sir! Thanks for the comment!
The role of FZ Network Control Centre was never investigated properly. "Network Control" is FZ's equivalent to Dispatch.
The tapes of the conversations between Cockpit and Ground "...could not be obtained"
I suspect NCC told the pilot he had to continue to hold rather than divert
I too was wondering why they didn’t give them weather updates !
I would think fatigue played a role in this too that was not mentioned. Two hour hold? Wee hours of the morning? Crazy! Just divert and deal with other issues while safely on the ground.
Imagine what the feeling those pilots had at the moment they realized they fucked up, and it was to late. It's horrifying.
@Jack Casey okay...
Jack Casey who cares? He got the message out and that’s plenty to understand.
Jack Casey who cares? He got the message out and that’s plenty to understand.
No, imagine being a pilot that's such a moron that they think the nose is slightly high because of their idiot feelings, instead of believing their gauges (the whole literal point of their existence), but negative 1G and a negative 50 degree pitch feels like level flight.
Jack Casey you don’t need to be condescending. Who fucking cares
How sad to know the pilot wanted to change his life to deal with family and fatigue issues, and before he could this happened. Thank you for always putting the effort in research and production, and for doing it in a respectful way to the dead. Hopefully they all passed quickly as it looked like the aircraft was incinerated. Thank you again!
@I Em Hoo I Iz ok
God bless
@I Em Hoo I Iz but the fear you had to go through before that though...
your research into every video is awesome, thanks x
Tracey Rossmann
Terrible tragedy where random circumstances all happened at once.
Condolences to the families. May their souls rest in peace.
The "Pull up" warning comes so late that it's not a warning any more. It's a last wish. Manufacturers should modify it.
I don’t think that happens when the landing gear is down
I thought the same... they don't have time to "pull up".. so what's the use..
I agree. You're right, it's no longer a warning.
i guess the flight computers cant really anticipate that someones yanks the controls full forward while sitting at full engine power in less than a kilometer height. the plane probably was doomed just a very few seconds after the nose dropped below level flight in that situation. not much a pull up warning can do there.
I mean I don’t know how many videos you’ve watched on this channel but there’s been plenty of occurrences where that warning plays over a longer period of time where they could still fix the mistake, but they continue to ignore the instruments.
The Plane: "PULL UP"
My brain: "Goodbye, my friend!"
Or, you can PULL UP! When the Ground Proximity Warning System kicks in, you have time to recover. Don't waste a perfectly good airplane. Planes are enormously expensive!
@@davidlegeros1914 Do you really mean that? If he could have, he would have.
@@davidlegeros1914 If you think just pulling up the plane is enough to avoid the laws of physics why do you think you need years of study to fly a plane ?
@@MatthiasLabaye You are correct, sir. You DO need years of study and training to fly "on instruments" when visual reference is lost. The body feels sensations that may not be correct, and only by checking and cross-checking instruments can you assure of a safe outcome.
@@davidlegeros1914 The other way around also exists. You do need years of study to determine the right solution when instruments fail. Which is, by the way, the reason for many plane crashes. Also, my point here was, just pulling up the plane while it's losing thousands of feet per minute is not necessarily enough to bring it back to a positive climb rate on time, especially because the lower the rate, the longer it takes to increase. Increasing the rate of one degree while the profile is completely horizontal will require less energy than increasing it of one degree when it's vertical. Descending too quickly means gaining speed, more speed means more energy needed to move the plane upwards. One should therefore, in such situation, find the right balance between speed and descent rate to be more likely to get out of this alive. And I believe this is more a matter of feeling the plane than mathematical and acquired knowledge through hours and hours of study. Also, you might be the smartest guy on earth and feel your plane very well, if the laws of physics have decided that you technically can't pull up on time in this situation, you're fucked.
Found this channel like 2 days ago ... been binge watching videos before I go to bed ever since ... idk why but these videos calms my nerves & makes me appreciate life . Life’s too short 😔
Yo Istg... I do thee exact same thing ... literally.... I feel like it’s a mix between Kobe’s death and actually getting to learn how things can mistakenly happen fr and also the music is calming .... and it also puts on my mind how I’m choosing certain flights and it just hopping on any flight ....
So true! xx@@kobealldayeveryday
I enjoy it at night too. I think it's because it makes me read.
Sooooo weird because this has literally been me nights in a row!! I thought i was crazy but its comforting to know theres other people who feel the same way ♥️
@@amnaaas15 yes amna
I remember that there were many news about the Aeroflot flight, mentioned on this video, which decided to land in Krasnodar airport after some unsuccessful attempts of landing in Rostov. Passengers talked about that they were really angry about pilots’ decision but when they heard about this crash totally had changed their minds. It’s really sad FlyDubai pilots didn’t do the same, Rest In Peace
Elya Umyarova Its called Fly YoloBai :) Flydubai be like: Oh we are not scared of anything. To prove that we are better than aeroflot at landing, we are gonna land in this dangerous weather at this AirPort in russia :) HO LEE FUK!!! *crashes* Bang Ding Ow!!
^ that's very disrespectful
They played it safe and waited for hours in a holding pattern, the plane didn't crash while trying to land you moron.
@@barthill9578 - Should of diverted.
Who's to say the stabilizer wouldn't of got stuck if they diverted.
The "Low Terrain," Pull Up," "Banking," and sirens that the systems make before the flight impact are incredibly haunting
this is a good example of why you should trust your instruments, and don't try and land if the situation is bad. it's 3am, windshear and poor weather. divert somewhere else
Trusting your instruments is great......as long as the pitot tubes aren't frozen over....
I don't even want to imagine how those pilots felt like as soon as they came out of the clouds and saw the fast approaching ground right ahead. Terrifying stuff.. Thanks again for a beautifully made video
Too fast just a emotional jolt then peace. Rip for flight 981✝
Should have pulled up
There was someone I knew on that flight. He use to work with EK here in SEZ airport. I did not interact directly with him, but time and time again I will see him boarding the EK aircraft. I worked for the SEZ national airline who also runs the passenger and cargo services for other airlines. Being a cargo agent part of my job was to collect cargo documents which allowed me to board all airlines. EK was one of them. This same individual also helped with my travel arrangements two years before. I knew that later he went to work for Flydubai as a flight attendant. I was SHOCKED when I heard he was on the downed flight. May he rest in peace. Up to this day I can still remember him. 🙁🙁
Hope he rests in peace
SEZ is beautiful, and I can't wait to visit it again!
You didn’t know him aside from seeing him...but I hope you got the attention you wanted by plugging yourself into a disaster based on seeing somebody walking a few times. How desperately do you need attention? I went to high school with a guy that was killed in the El Paso Walmart shooting. I never met him but saw him in the cafeteria a few times, so please give me attention because I saw someone a few times I never even knew who died in a tragedy.
@@Bravo-Too-Much looks like your the one who wants attention not me. It was more than just I saw him. If you were reading my comment you will see that I also mentioned, He HELPED ME WITH MY TRAVEL ARRANGEMENTS, when he was working for Emirates. I also know who his friends were as some of those friends I know them, i've worked with them even. I knew and know his colleagues working with Emirates now. When you work some place small as SEZ airport. Everyone knows everyone, you may even have a job as a cleaner and everyone will know you. How often did you see that guy you spoke off? I doubt i that you would see him several days every month 365 days, same routine at work for donkey years, then he went away. I had no idea he went to work for FlyDubai at first, only perhaps about a couple of months before the incident. the only thing I knew before that he got a job in Dubai. Then tragedy struck and he lost his life. I know death can come and knock at your door any time, I did not plug myself into the disaster as you so implied. Would you even say that you knew the guys name? I do, Did he ever do something for you? A service, he did for me and I was grateful. Ever heard the saying, the friend of my friend is also a friend? Before you criticise and post comments, try and put yourself in my shoes. What i've written on top is not to gain attention. What i've left here are memories, be it how I remember him professionally.
I know i don't know you but i feel sympathy for your ''kind of loss''.
I was in a go round for 10 minutes it got me worried. This for 2 hours wonder what the passengers felt. Must have been horrified . RIP
Go arounds are fine. It literally means the pilots are keeping the plane safe and waiting in a holding pattern for a slot to get in line and land again. There is nothing to be terrified about just flying in a circle (or oval as most are for jetliners). Plus, the plane always ..... ALWAYS ..... let me say that again .... A L W A Y S .... has far more fuel than is required to get from one airport to another. There is a bare minimum they are REQUIRED to have onboard incase of vectoring around weather, or go arounds, or reroutes to other airports. A plane flying from Florida to Dallas has enough fuel to make it to Albuquerque (at altitude, supposing they dont have to scrub a decent and regain altitude they have enough), probably Phoenix depending how the winds are up high.
The thing to be aware of is the 'minimums' which mean the minimum visibility required to land. If a pilot cannot see the landing threshold at a minimum altitude they MUST abort landing and go around, possibly enter a holding pattern and wait for weather to move off field. A pilot that ignores those minimums, and their instruments for no good reason, should not be flying. period.
“Pull Up Pull Up “to be renamed as “Its over Its over”
It'd certainly seem that way from watching these kinds of videos, but that's because all these videos end up in a crash or an incident.
Just an anecdote here, but once I was flying into Houston, arriving from the southeast which puts you along the shoreline of the Gulf of Mexico. We were descending through about 34,000 when the airplane said, "WHOOP! WHOOP! Pull UP!" It scared the absolute shit out of me and as I was reaching to pull the aircraft into a climb I realized it had to be an erroneous indication. Mt. Everest isn't even that high and everything in the area we were in was right around sea level. It still took a couple of minutes for the adrenaline to subside.
What if it was at night? Would you react with complete awareness of your situation at hand?
“Thou hast purchased the farm.”
One thing I am noticing from all of these videos is that the majority of the crashes happen at night.
@@UrCuteBalls-sk3di Well... not really. This accident was primarily pilot error. The two MAX crashes, while there probably was a human factor involved, have the new MCAS as the main culprit for the crashes. For now.
@@UrCuteBalls-sk3di No, it was not. There is nothing to indicate in the FlyDubai crash that there was anything wrong with the plane.
Riscit'Alle which is crazy, aren’t pilots supposed to be looking at their instrumentation and not out the window?
@@UrCuteBalls-sk3di night, bad weather, missiles, suicide pilots, mechanical fault,pilot error, air traffic error, fighter planes, mountains, etc...I guess you fly long enough something will get you
Riscit'Alle
Lower visibility.
12:02 I swear I hear that sound in my nightmares.
Bruhhh sameee
W O O P W O O P
P U L L U P
CLIMB. CLIMB NOW. CLIMB. CLIMB NOW!
right next to TERRAIN. TERRAIN. PULL UP. TERRAIN. TERRAIN. PULL UP.
There’s another video by this channel entitled “When a flight crew trusts a plane too much”. Exactly opposite of what happened here when the crew didn’t fully trust their instruments...
Lukas Loh huh?
They’re saying there’s another flight accident that happened, when the crew could see something was wrong but didn’t do anything because their plane instruments indicated everything was fine (which wasn’t the case for them)
Lukas Loh mate when its dark and you’re tired your brain might play tricks on you. Since it was dark the pilot could not see. He thought that the nose was going too high, but the instruments said it was fine. So he had to do what he thought was right. Imagine seeing a wall but it isnt real but you think its real then you turn into a real wall and crash
@@scavanger4618 Your comment makes no Sense when it's a reply to Lukas
Omg i was just about to comment the same . So its basically damned if you do and damned if you don’t situation. Crazy
A friend of mine is an easyjet pilot. Before he went to easyjet, he was at ryanair, and while he was doing his checkride for the 737, he got chattinng to a nee recruit from flydubai, he happened to be quite good friends with one if the pilots on that flight and he said that it was one of the reasons that he left the airline, was the way they handled the staff, schedules they were working on and hours they were on, even the pilot that died made it known that one day something disasterous was going to happen, and sadly this was the outcome
Man, you have these re-creations down to an art form.
Go into a holding pattern for 2 hours!!??? Does that sound typical? Just asking... (btw - part of my glider and light plane training involved closing my eyes while the instructor put the aircraft in unusual attitudes and then asking me to identify what the plane was doing while still keeping my eyes closed. Was wrong every time. Your body and vestibular system will lie to you without adequate input from your eyes....)
Not at all typical in the U.S. But this company had planned on extensive holding and carried plenty of fuel. The airline seems averse to diverting.
I don’t know if it’s “typical,” but it definitely happens. I was once on a flight from LAX to Logan International in Boston and we were in a holding pattern above the airport for about 2-3 hours due to severe thunderstorms.
It's not typical; in the US, airline schedules are very demanding and tightly coupled, with no room for play. Every hour the aircraft is delayed is not just an hour of lost revenue, but hours or even a full day of disrupted scheduling, repositioning flights to patch holes in the schedule, customer complaints, and ticket refunds. That's a big hit.
So the airlines normally will not stand for their planes spending two hours holding. They'll divert.
But sometimes the adverse weather conditions are widespread and severe enough that there's not really much other option.
I was taught (and subsequently taught my students) to "trust my instruments" and to "ignore my feelings and senses" during times of acceleration with no visible clues.
If these pilots were taught this then unfortunately, it was forgotten. Sadly, the results speak for themselves.
Airport should have diverted planes away if planes are struggling, unless it's an emergency
yea the other plane tried 3 times & DID decide to land somewhere else!
Our plane took 3 detour rounds nearby before landing
@@sallylemon5835 F that ! id freak out so bad.
It's about money, if the alternate is say a 3 hour coach ride away they may have to pay hotel bills for 200 or so pax
@@neillp3827 sad but probably true
One thing our flight instructors put in our brains: ALWAYS-TRUST-THE-INSTRUMENTS!
Do NOT trust your imagination!
R.I.P.
Flying through the night, at a time when we humans biologically are in a deep sleep mode, is very hard and total fatigue is normal, severe weather and stress even contributes to a fatal accident.
Total fatigue promotes disillusion and disorientation.
And airlines want their pilots to fly even longer hours during a day!
That is suicidal!
I'm curious about that too. Is the instruments that error-prone that the pilots don't trust it?
@@TheDavidLiou Today, flight-instruments are 99.9% fail-safe.
It also depends on maintenance.
If properly maintained, they are 99.999% fail-safe.
That is one reason why pilots worldwide are required to follow their TCAS (traffic collision avoidance system) by all aviation authorities of all countries.
No exception.
But pilots are ordinary humans.
Prone to fatigue like anyone else.
And that's the point!
The more hours airlines want their pilots to be on duty, the higher the risk for human errors.
The Kennedy jr crash was a classic example of how pilots can lose it in pitch-black conditions...ruclips.net/video/-P-3Kl1P0as/видео.html
@@tungstenkid2271, I did not hear that J.F.K.J. was an I.F.R. licensed pilot!
All I know is that JFR jr was doing fine at first, but then it got dark and pitch black outside and he went on instruments but completely lost it.
The plane was fully automated and the instruments were actually saving the plane!
certain Instruments on Certain aircraft appear of late, to be , well to be honest, the pilots hadn't known that a certain instrument had been added by BOEING, , hence two Crashes, Etheopia and the Java Sea.. prangs..I guess that the armchair pilots will have an excuse for this of course.
@@terryofford4977 : Those were different crashes with different airplanes.
@@terryofford4977
The 737MAX had a system that pushes the nose down if it detects a stall. The trim wheel trims down the stabilizer. This is compensation that Boeing made to their latest model to compensate for the foward-mounted powerful engines. It's called the Maneuver Compensation Augmentation System (MCAS). Pilots were not informed of its existence, but the recovery procedure is identical to the Runaway Stabilizer Trim Memory Item. Every B737 pilot, whether you fly the antique B737-200 or the B737MAX, knows that a "runaway stabilizer trim" can be deactivated by accomplishing the following Memory Item checklist in this order:
1. Pulling the control wheel back (This doesn't work with the MAX), if the trim is still running:
2. Trim in the opposite direction (touching the trim switch disengages the autopilot). if the trim is still running:
3. DO NOT RE-ENGAGE THE AUTOPILOT! If the trim is still running:
4. Turn the STAB TRIM power switches OFF. If the trim is still running:
5. STABILIZER TRIM WHEEL, GRAB AND HOLD
The FAA reviewed records of B737MAX operators American, United, and Southwest, who has the largest fleet of 737MAX airplanes. They found out, to their horror, that the US crews also had the MCAS act up on them. When questioned, the pilots replied that, yes, they had experienced that 30-second adventure, shut off the system, and continued the rest of the trip flying by hand. Upon arrival, the trim system was written up in the maintenance logbook.
The Lion Air accident airplane had a similar write-up. On a previous flight, the trim ran away, and was only saved by another Lion Air pilot in the jumpseat who reached forward and flipped two switches off. The pilots should have caught that, as this is part of their training.
The average new-hire hired to fly a 737 in the USA has over 5000 hours flying corporate of regional jets, or 2000 hours flying fighter jets in combat. The safest airplane in the USA is not the 737, which itself is very safe, but the Airbus A320. The A320 has not experienced a single fatality in the USA, despite having the largest fleet of Airbus 320s in the world. This is because the average pilot flying an Airbus A320 has over 10000 hours flying BOEINGS.
And yet a Professional crew still managed to DESTROY a perfectly airworthy A320 recently in Karachi.
It does make a difference from which country the crew is flying. Europeans are far better drivers than us Americans, because earning a license in Europe or the UK is a much more rigorous process. Europe has a culture of high-performance cars, racing, and high-performance driving. In the USA, we have an aviation culture borne out of the necessity to cover big distances. It's cheap and accessible to obtain licenses and build flight time in all kinds of wind, terrain, and weather situations. By FAA regulation, the most junior pilot in a Beechcraft Be1900 airliner must have 1500 hours just to play the game! This is not the case in Indonesia or Ethiopia. Consequently, a new-hire 737 pilot would have gone directly from his Diamond DA-40 to the right seat of the 737 or Airbus A320, without an opportunity to even "fly by himself" or take his girlfriend or family up and scare himself shitless in a crosswind landing! That's experience.
It comes down to a matter of Airmanship and Experience. Airmanship improves with experience, and there is no substitute for experience.
Fly Safe!
@@davidlegeros1914 thank you for explaining this.
Same thing happened at the Three Mile Island nuclear plant. At the first sign of trouble had the operators left, everything would have been fine. Instead they turned off the emergency core cooling system. Twice. There was logic behind their decision, but it was wrong.
I can't imagine the terror they felt when they saw the ground coming at them that fast😱😰
Holy crap! Landing conditions were "poor visibility, thick clouds, severe wind, rain showers, mist, severe turbulence, and wind-shear"? That's what they were going to land in? Sometimes being the passenger in the back and not knowing is a good thing.
Another fascinating video and always so very respectful to all parties concerned. I also want to say thank you for all of the useful and polite comments on this channel -this is how people should and can act on social media.
Amen to that @Gringo! I get so tired of seeing abusive people on YT, but rarely see that here. Props to the aviation community, no pun intended.
The more I watch these flight disasters the less I want to travel on one!
You're more likely to die on the way to the airport than in a plane crash.
@@xeldinn86 aint it less scary than being trapped inside a plane knowing its about to crash and you can hear people screaming :(
The more I watch these disasters the more I freak out about travel. Though i love to travel but still 😵
@@amina9044 Well yeah. But I am not scared to fly. Look on Flightradar24 and see how many planes are in the sky at one time. Thousands of planes. "According to IATA, in 2017 the estimated number of commercial flights is 36.8 million, not including private, business and military aviation. More than 100,000 flights a day" So if every day there are 100,000 flights and this is how many crashes we have then I think you're pretty safe. :-D
oh i gave up flying many years ago.
That made the skin all over my body crawl and brought tears to my eyes just after 12 minutes. So sad. Imagining what they were going through.
I was at work that day. Our break room was the closest to the crash. Right before the tragedy it rained harder than I’ve ever seen! Soon as the rain abruptly stopped, we heard the crash. It was surreal watching what was happening for the rest of that night. I still think of the tragic loss of life. I will never forget.😢
I've been in the situation where you start to question your instruments and the pressure to follow our instincts is incredible. In my case, I wasn't flying an aircraft but the sensation is just … horrendous. People talk about a cognitive dissonance (which is what this is, two conflicting "ideas" at once) but usually that's just damn uncomfortable. Thank you again for another fascinating video - these really improve my knowledge.
WhenI was a young pilot in training, before I had gotten my license, I got into some wicked vertigo in the clouds (long story how I ended up IFR). The sensation is overwhelming to fly what you FEEL, instead of what you SEE. Luckily, I forced myself to fly the instruments and survived.
I can imagine that would be an awful feeling. We're raised to trust our instincts and then are expected to blindly trust instruments that could also be incorrect. Terrible.
"I can't see anything and I don't trust my instrument. Therefore I fly by feeling."
_dies_
Use the force, Luke.
#basically
This is why you don't put unintelligent third world pilots in these situations.
@@gandalfthegrey8236 Oh look, i insulted these retarded third world pilots (which is all of them you think)
Now give me likes.
Its not like crashes caused by pilot error ever happen in the west! No it only happens in third world countries!
@@gandalfthegrey8236 So Spain and Cyprus are Third World now is it?
You deserve your own show on a cable network like the history channel. Fantastic videos
I have a flight tonight. And I'm genuinely scared. Prayers. 🙏🏾😔💜
@bigbodyrover yes. Loool. 🤣🤣🤣 I made it home. Thank you for checking on me! 😘
@bigbodyrover 💋
....stupid is as stupid does....lol. in a good way.
Great video as always. I look forward to Fridays because I get paid and there's a new video from Flight Channel. Moral of this tragic story is; when flying in instrument conditions trust your instruments!
This animation is the best, so detailed, wow.
I retired with 22,600 flight hours, all accumulated in flight segments of 2 1/2 hours or less, resulting in multiple takeoffs and landings per day, and numerous missed approaches in all weather events. It's unimaginable to me, that thoroughly trained professional pilots would allow themselves to act upon their perceived spatial sensations, rather than responding to the information provided by their flight instruments. That was the cause of JFK, jr's crash, and he was a 100 hour non-instrument private pilot.
As an Flydubai pilot, I think your comment is ridiculous!
If you have 22600h you have more than enough not to say this kind of stuff!
Everything is very easy when you are fresh at 10:00am but try to imagine to wakeup at 8pm, all fatigued from years of poor rostering, and after the first go around being in holding for more than 2h in a dark environment and the company OPS keeping saying not to divert but to land in Rostov.
And the big piece of the puzzle that is not mentioned is that we as a captains are required to fly a HUD. If you know what is to fly a HUD, all green at night when tired and having this pitch up movement then you can come back to me to talk about it!
And btw, I'm not defending anyone. I knew both guys and flew with the Captain once and if there was someone I could possibly see as having an accident was him because of his "I'm the god" posture.
@@FlightdeckChannel Your ridiculous excuse-making has ensured I will never FlyDubai into the ground.
@@carlhopkinson Excuse-making?
You have 22600h of what? Flight simulator?
For you is an excuse, for people working in Flydubai is their really!
Most of the flight are thought the night because of the heat, it's a 24h cycle!!!
2 body clock changes per week average!
50⁰C OAT during summer. You don't know what you are talking about and if you don't want to fly with flydubai who cares?! And it's better to avoid Emirates, Etihad, Qatar, etc, because they have the same problems. Have you seen the Emirates accident in home base Dubai during day? What's the excuse there?
This is real life my friend!
Captain Vince!
Upon reading this post, I see that some company cultures emasculate the Authority of the Pilot in Command, and these PICs do not assert their rightful authorities. Sure, one might find himself TEMPORARILY out of a job, but he will be alive to find another job in short order and support his family. I have the same time as you do, probably in the same airspace.
Fly Safe!
Dave
@@FlightdeckChannel
Dear Captain,
I am also a 737NG Captain, like you. I have a HUD, but I don't like it. I find the all-green display very disorienting, especially at night. We at Southwest are allowed to decide whether to use it or not. Sure, you can hand-fly down to 50 feet in close to ZERO vis, but how safe is that? I would sooner divert.
Your comment about FlyDubai and the other Gulf Airlines reflects a Corporate Culture that needs to change. The Captain is PIC and is "the ultimate authority, without limitation, on the conduct of the flight, the airplane and his or her crew". Vince Sabella is correct. As a Captain you can call in fatigued due to poor rostering (scheduling). You can refuse a trip. You can demand a course of action from your co-captain, the Dispatcher, and your FO. Tell the company that you want to divert. you are the CAPTAIN, not some pogue on the ground!
If your Company is not allowing you to make CAPTAIN DECISIONS on your own, please leave that company. If this is indeed the case, then those 98 passengers and crew of FlyDubai were murdered by a toxic company culture. Sooner or later you will lose more of your comrades, or you yourself will die, taking your crew and passengers with you.
Think about this. I am not some RUclips surfer. I am a high-time 737NG Captain like you. Be the Captain that you are and don't take bullsh-t from anyone!
Fly Safe!
Of all the crashes I`ve seen on this amazing channel thus far, this crash is the most eerie given the fact that the pilots must`ve realized the final few seconds (that I`m sure felt like hours) that they would crash and die. A runway is pretty lit up and the fact that they saw it approach from the nose tip down angle and not being able to do anything about it must`ve been a nightmare.
Holding for 2 hours waiting for better weather conditions? How ridiculous
Getting up the nerve. I would like to hear the last 5 mins of the cockpit recorder. Something just is not right about the way this flight captain was flying around for no real good reason. He was paranoid the whole time. I'm not saying the crash was intentional. Seems like he was under a lot of stress, pilot wanted to change his life to deal with family and fatigue issues.
Said the pilot had just made changes so his family life would get better..... Seems to me this guy took the dive on purpose, but was maybe struggling with the desision or wanted it to look like accident so his family would not be shamed... they had the black box but nothing was reported that he ever tried to pull out once he stalled and was headed down.... No one, not pilot or passenger would be mistaken about the the plane stalling in mid air.....
@@thespiritof76.. How dense do you could be? The pilot working on a surgical level of precision environment that is the commercial airplane cockpit at 3AM after 2 hour hold in the middle of windshear. Making a life decision yesterday does not save him from this amount of stress on top of fatigue, let alone pressure after being on hold. By no means it was his fault to be delayed and yet he have to deal with schedule change, extra administrative work, and taking responsibility for the flight IF he landed safely. It's been mentioned that there are such thing as Somatogravic Illusion, especially when your center mass is in your abdomen instead of your head giving the impression of tilting in eardrums when there are only acceleration without pitch.
I guess you were so dense, your center mass is located on your head, making you're immune to Somatogravic Illusion while ignoring the entire video you were watching.
I know man! Us _RUclips Comment Section Pilots_ woulda landed that bad boy on two wheels blindfolded in a hurricane with a stripper in our lap!!!! Smh.................................................
Ridiculous to a lay person, not to a pilot. He had 4 hours of fuel left ; he couldn't justify just diverting the aircraft to an alternate. Diversion involves a hell lot of expense and effort - the same crew will not be able to fly back the aircraft because their duty timing ( fdtl ) will expire. He could even lose his job.
One of my favourite RUclips channels content wise. It must take ages to get these videos up to the quality they are, thanks for all the time you spend editing all these videos
I absuolutely love your videos! For some reason i'm obsessed into watching your videos...Maube it's cause they're so awesome! Great work on all of them. It must take alot of time to make these, but you know, time is worth it to make such and amazing video! Keep up the great work TheFlightChannel!
I love you! ❤
"Your family member just died, here's 15k"
Something tells me that $15,000 isn't enough compensation for that... you could pay me billions and I still wouldn't be happy.
what else are they gonna do?
that 15k wasn't even meant to be compensation anyway, that would be an issue for the airline later. that 15k was given by the government of the region where the plane happened to crash. it wasn't their fault or their airport or ATCs fault and the plane wasn't even from their country, but most of the passengers were. they gave the money to the families with no strings attached to help them avoid immediate financial hardship at a very bad time.
Add the $20k from FlyDubai to that $15k.
And it's not a consolation prize.
What about your mother-in-law?
I wouldn't be outraged by a fully-body illusion like this. I'd fight an airline for decades if it was lousy pilots, suicide, terrorism, sloppy maintenance, overweight, etc.
Yeah, let's dive and watch the altitude meter count down to zero and believe in our hearts that we got this under control.
Thats a bad way to calibrate your instruments
inshallah
yes these pilots were poorly trained. I can hear one of them staying, "no don't push the nose down!!!!!!" while the other one pushes the nose down.
@@damkayaker Terrain terrain pull up!
Great work in portraying the events and circumstances that led up to this disaster. Very timely for me as I am getting my commercial license right now and learning about somatogravic illusion. Having just learned about this from various books, it was difficult to visualize. With this video, it is crystal clear how this is a very real illusion that can be very overpowering. THANK YOU so much for this very sobering visual lesson. My thoughts and heart go out to those who experienced the loss that tragic day. May their survivors find peace.
It is amazing that in this day and age mere darkness and clouds can still prevent pilots from knowing for certain if the aircraft is going up or down.
As a pilot, you are trained to use all of your avionics in addition to looking outside the window. In fact, it's company policy. Flying at night, narrow runways (width) give the illusion that you are too high on approach, so your reaction is to fly lower... That's why you have to force yourself to use the GPS or ILS avionics to verify your altitudes as you descend.
Lee, it wasn’t the darkness and the clouds, it was pilot incompetence.
I've watched many air crash investigations as well as many of TheFlightChannel's videos and I've never had the reaction I did when it showed the aftermath on the runway. I literally said out loud, "Jesus there's nothing left!" as my jaw hit the floor.
Very tragic! Crazy work hours and schedules can lead even the best individuals [pilots] down a slippery slope to disaster. I crashed my car backing out of a parking space of 10 yrs after working a late shift because I was spatially disoriented or impaired; the crash snapped me out of it. I didn't realize how fatigued I was when I got behind the wheel; the only difference is that I'm not a pilot.
One tip: Back car in when you arrive so you can pull straight out later when you're tired.
I suddenly thought about one incident that I entered a busy road and turned left. Halfway through the middle of the road I realized I was at red and the on coming cars from left and right has the right of way. Glad there were no cars. It was 6pm that time and rush hour too. Woke my senses up after working 12hrs ugh!
Fatigue may well have been a factor here--either chronic or acute. Why else would a seasoned pilot act in such an erratic manner? There is an attitude indicator in front of him to prevent just such conflicts. Perhaps a less fatigued pilot would have remembered to trust his instruments--especially in what must have been total IFR conditions.
Self True - When I had my airplane, just a small private one, I was considering going on to Instrument Flying, basically 'under the hood'. One thing the instructor said over and over was, Always trust your instruments! Fatigue could well have been an influence in this crash. Consider how many times they chose to go around, and how long they'd been flying just this one flight. Truly sad.
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I'm surprised that the F.O. didn't ask the pilot about the possible confusion.
Where you in the cockpit? how do you know they weren't following instruments?
Yep sad though they didint trust the instruments and decided by prediction the instruments were not malfuntioning
No don't need to fly to see contradictions in the report.
@ TheFlightChannel : once again an outstanding video. Music, image, details, info, narration... Perfection does not exist but you're damn close!!!
Great videos! I’m a helicopter guy and I am still interested the causes of these accidents. As a crew chief on a Huey we had to learn about this problem. But since I didn’t actually fly the acft I wasn’t taught to this knowledge level. I participated on a post accident recovery years later as a civilian as a military contractor. The crash site was unbelievable. The preliminary cause was weather. As the final report was released I still wondered what happened. After seeing this video it is more clear that not trusting the instruments along with this effect was fatal for this crew. After being at the wreckage site if one doesn’t already realize it how the importance of a mechanic like myself to make sure the aircraft is at it’s best condition so if called upon the pilots can have that safe flight.
omg how incredibly sad.i dont remember ever seeing this on the news and it is just.. a terrible situation to watch play out.
Great video I love how you show us what the pilots do in the cockpits settings and all thank you 💖✈🙂👍
This is an amazing channel . I'm addicted !
Definition of a Go-Around: "A normal procedure which turns usually into an abnormal situation". I never forgot that remark from my flight instructor. So true...
Seing the aproach lights lighting up the ground on its final seconds was horrifing even in the simulation.
Gr8 video showing in detail. RIP to all the 60+ people who died that day.
Flying will never be the same for me again having found this channel.
Really informative, great content nonetheless.
I really appreciate you giving the details about the pilot's personal life before beginning, it really helps one get an insight into them as people.
Normally personal details are only given when they have something to do with the crash, but this is much better.
Kudos to your detailed simulations, if you don't mind sharing, which simulator do you use for your videos?
Uses chutiya simulator
Your presentation of these tragedies is very respectful and professional. Good work.
Finally u uploaded this
I had been waiting for it
One of the best video u ever made
All ur videos r the best
Good job
May their souls Rest In Peace and their families find closure. Thanks for a well done and informative video.
I'm back after years i love this channel but it gives me second thoughts on being a pilot
Well I'm not going to force you make JAL123. What I'm gonna say is that you have such a great video worth like 1M sub lol. Great work
thanks for the 4k vid quality :)
Too lazy to type eo.
Very well done video, my favourite of yours so far :) great if slightly terrifying shot of the plane barreling into the runway!
Here is an idea:
You know the "Bank angle" alert? Here is my AMAZING idea to prevent these illusions from crashing a plane
just put the "pull up" alert whenever the nose drops too far, even if you are at 30,000 feet.
Also do a "stall" alert as soon as the nose goes too high, even if you are not stalling yet.
Agreed
In aviation nothing, NOTHING is too simple.
Instead of alerts unique beeping sound for up and down pitch can be used it be more efficient
You mean more sounds and noises? Aren't there enough? Y'all gotta stop trying to fix things with computers and alerts. You know what the real cause of this accident was? Fatigue.
@@jamesharris9816 And the fatigue caused the pilots to be DISORIENTED, where the alert could have told them that they were pitching down
These simulations are amazing. I'm so glad this channel popped up in my Suggested Videos...
Wow another great video 👍🏻
Thank you! 😊
Going around in circles for two hours, I'm sure that's going to help.
they tried
Wow! Another great video
Thanks man!
Wow, I had no idea there was such a condition pilots can experience! Great video! RIP to all the victims :(
Can't stop watching these.... Great work dude
Just found your channel and been binging it while playing flight sim 2020. I'll probably never fly in my life, but I love these videos all the same!
Poor devils must have been weary beyond belief; in my piston days we used to watch/pray for those first signs of dawn; didn't matter how rough the sea was below or how stiff/tired you were, gradually the 'dead' feeling would lift and some braincells would flicker into life. Sometimes our oppos in CC were known to have flown into the sea looking for a periscope and not waking up until too late.
It’s like Christmas morning when I see you uploaded a new video!
Excellent video and covering a subject that I had not heard of before. I guess the lesson here is when in doubt; trust your instruments. If they were in good working order before, there no reason to believe they are not now.
They need to change the warning that says “pull up!” To “GAME OVER!”.
Woop Woop, "You're dead"
This the is the content I searched for years with so good editing still sad for the people in the story
When in doubt, trust your instruments.
If you can't trust your instruments, at least disconnect your computer and take your hands off the controls. The airframe is STABLE.
As good as these simulations are I can’t help but wonder if we’ll look back 10 years from now and think this is so prehistoric like a kid watching the 1977 Star Wars. These videos are hard not to watch cuz you always learn. Cheers Bill
I can't stop watching these videos mate
those pictures of the crash site... there seemed to be nothing left at all 0_0
I know, awful. Everyone would have been obliterated
nah that doesn't make any sense. You should still be able to see debris. Makes me wonder what really happened
The amount of work amd dedication in this channel is amazing. Much respect dude u will hit 1 million very soon
Thanks a lot man ☺️☺️
dude no need to thank me, thank ur hard work, u r better than most youtubers and u deserve it
@@theflightchannel hello .If you can do one on the Gimli glider sometime I would greatly appreciate it.Keep up the great work man.Two thumbs up my friend.
Thank you to the many here who respond with respect and intelligence. With the awareness that hindsight while sitting behind a computer screen has nothing to do with being in the situation. That understand that people lost their lives, and what that means to family and loved ones. I salute you.
For the others with snarky posturing, grow up.
Who else can’t get enough of this channel 😃
I get that they felt a real nose up sensation, but they've got 3 artificial horizons in the flight deck which all showed a level blue over brown.
How do TWO professionals with tens of thousands of hours of staring at an artificial horizon in all sorts of weather conditions and levels of fatigue suddenly disregard it entirely?
drunk tire anna scaredey
@J Anonymous wow u are a gut annamanass
they had like 12,000 hours between them, not "tens of thousands" but regardless its easy to dismiss and belittle their attempts from the comfort of your computer, its another thing entirely when your the one experiencing the disorientation and your mind and body is telling you to push the plane down.
@@wyomingptt I've done my share of moonless night or IMC go arounds, and no matter what was going on, kept up my scan. A crash can happen to anyone and only fools say "never me," but this crash is hard for me to put myself in their shoes.
Though maybe I am just a lucky fool. I did just learn 10s of thousands does not mean 10,000 - 99,999.
Fatigue and stress!
Wow, luckily I came here right after watching my mum's flight landed safely at my home~ ❤️
Nice job agaiiin, you seem improved a lot urgh...
I'm watching, nya!
@FSX GAMEPLAYS And walkthroughs
Well, you need to relearn your manner lel.
Bad boi.
C. Camomille E. Arnabell planes rarely ever crash, so there no need to worry...
@@blumac9801 ikr! plane are safier now days!
owo
You have an airport at your home? Amazing!
Man I love this channel
the crash sound is ultimate stunning
Im traveling with fly Dubai very soon wish me luck
GBU! Safe trip!
C. Camomille E. Arnabell Thanks!
Wish you a good flight ;)
I've traveled with them for years and they are one of the best economy airlines I've ever seen. Best of wishes.
what airline
It's amazing that they have all this footage of the actual flight
I know, you are joking, right?
This is a re-enactment using a video game.
@@sludge4125 Silly! I think if they were in a video game, the crash wouldn't have been nearly as serious! They would've had extra lives.
@@465marko Just push the reset button and everything is hunky dory again.
🤪🤪🤪
I honestly never had a clue how many plane crashes take place until I started watching content from this channel. I guess I'd assumed that planes are much safer now and that the reason there weren't frequent stories of plane crashes in the news was because they simply weren't happening.
Makes you want to fly, doesn’t it? 😐
I have been binge watching this stuff even though I have a flight in Two Days!
The more videos he makes the more I question just how safe airplanes really are 😔😔 I really want to fly on a plane but the more he uploads the more discouraging it is
Flying is extremely safe. In fact, it's safer than walking down the street. People just watch these crash videos and get scared, but it's very rare to be killed in a plane crash, compared to how many tens of thousands of safe flights occur every single day. Driving a car is thousands of times more dangerous. Just go look up the statistics and you'll see. Flying is very fun, you should try it.
@@trevorjameson3213 Flying is safer than walking down the street, yeah ok
Avoid flying as much as you can. Ignore the morons who say that "flying is safer than driving". What they never tell you is that statistics show the total number of crashes, which means there are fewer airplane crashes than car crashes per year. Duh! There are way more cars than planes! Also, a car crash is not always fatal, but an airplane crash is almost always fatal. Finally, one car crash kills a few people. An airplane crash kills 50-150 people at a time.
@@RogueReplicant Actually, most plane crashes are not fatal.