Bronny James beats him all day. He's so good because he's young. And being young means he's talented. That's why he got into the NBA, for that sole reason. He would destroy 50 year old Jordan you know that is fact
Jordan had nothing left to prove at this point he was just playing for fun and the love of the game, and still schooling cats, just shows you what a freak of an athlete he was. Forever the greatest.
@@MrMathoks calling any 90s player “soft” is ridiculous. You seen players nowadays? LeFlop James, Joel Embiid, Luka Doncic, and those are just a couple of the big names.
@@DailyReminder2Hydrate your 90s gods flopped, broke down before 40 and got in their feelings at the slightest trash talk. They are the definition of SOFT
@@MrMathoks maybe they occasionally flopped, but if you think they were softer than now, then you’re on something. One of many reasons why MJ was so good, is because he used anger as fuel, but in such a defense physical era, he couldn’t just bull through players throwing elbows shoulders etc. at people, so he was obviously more controlled. It’s also the era known best for defense. Anyways only a handful of players have played till 40, and 1 of them was Michael Jeffery Jordan, so I have no clue where you got that last fact. The average NBA career is 5 years, so most players in NBA history have retired before 40. If you think 90s players were soft, then you obviously either watch only clips, lowlight, or highlights. If you actually watch their games and still believe this nonsense, then something is genuinely wrong with you.
@@dojo2157 ball hogging and jacking up shots at 43%, all while not sniffing the playoffs and bullying a teenager relentlessly (with his hand picked pack of goons he had put on the team to be his muscle). Resume caviar right there. 👍
I am glad to hear these guys acknowledging the fact he had the injury in that 1st year with the Wizards. Previous to him having that, the Wizards were doing extremely well and he was absolutely killing it. He slowed after that, but if you look at his stats from those years, it is really close to Kobe's lifetime states. And to everyone's point, he changed his game completely to still compete at a very high level. Amazing
@@startrekstarwars7629 I’ve been saying this for years & if we truly wanted to say that somebody or someone came close, then it would’ve been Kobe Bryant, but even he didn’t surpass MJ ( in my opinion ) 🤷🏾♂️
Something beautiful about this vintage Wizard Jordan is his pure basketball IQ and skillsets without any of those athleticism left. You get to watch his true footwork, how he posed his position, how he felt his defender, and how he used his body or speed change to create space for shots. To me, that's the moment when the true craftsmanship comes in for the art of the basketball.
@@mikedownload4029 Backcourt: MJ and Stockton, Center: The Dream, Frontcourt: Sir Charles and Oscar Schmidt. I'll put them against any other team from the same draft.
I guess not, since he led them to b2b 26-56 records. I guess he also had nothing to prove in his first six seasons with the Bulls? When he never led them deep in the playoffs until he was almost 30?
Footwork Jordan was still a top 10 player. Ron Artest (I think) was on a podcast talking about how if he didn’t break his rib in the offseason, he would’ve averaged over 30 a game.
I'm 37 and started playing 2 months ago after not playing since High School. A young guy recently asked if I wanted to play his friend. They give each other that little shit-eating grin. His friend is the SF for one of the high schools. I busted that young man's ass🤣😏🤷🏻♂️
Back in the early 2000s, we subscribed to the NBA package in 2001/02 & 2002/03 just so we could see MJ on the Wizards. I remember watching him drop 40+ points 8 times including the 51 point game vs. the Charlotte Hornets. He had a few buzzer beaters as well. When Michael played on the Bulls in the 80's and especially the 90's, all Chicago did was win, win, win. It seemed like a majority of the games went to the Bulls. They were unstoppable. Jordan would have 45 points, Kukoc would have 25, Pippen would have 20, etc.
I know Jordan fans won’t like this, especially the younger Jordan fans who only saw his wizards attempt through highlights and stuff, but as somebody who watched it He was a shell of his former self. He should’ve never come back IMO. A lot of times it was kind of sad to watch.
His 2nd year with wash was pretty good, his scoring eff was 45%. His 1st yr, his scoring eff was 42% and his average in chicago was 52%. His 2nd yr at washington, he had Stack, Larry hughes, Haywood, Laettner, Oak, Russell. Thats a decent team and they should have made the playoffs with that group. Their last 20 games, they were 6-14 which is underachieving for that group.
@@spurfan76 ikr & when he first came into the league, he broke his foot, and had to rehab, so imagine if that injury never ever happened, and I am not even a Jordan fan, and I didn’t find this out, until I watched ( The Last Dance ) 🤷🏾♂️
I saw the Charlotte game live and another wizards game where he scored 40 some odd points. He was amazing, I also saw the LaBradford Smith game at the US Arena in 1993, I think he was 16 for 16 in the first half. It was definitely like seeing God disguised as Michael Jordan.. I was eight years old. Michael Jordan is the goat.
Imagine jordan actually coming back during that time and putting him on a team that actually had a chance to really do something like a playoff type of team jordan probably would've had a few more rings
Was he incredible with Wizards, well maybe not. Giving all circumstances and factors Jordans stint there wasnt any dissapointment. Coming into first season he had damaged finger in his shooting hand, they had to drain fluids of his knees, he suffered broken rib in scrimmage. And yes his FG% dropped from his Bulls days, but as the season progressed he was getting better, for 46 games before he torn his meniscus(not sure it was that tbh) had a line of 25,6,5. Wizards stood at 26-20 eyeing on the playoffs. Whats worth mentioning Jordan was real defensive anchor of that team and turnaround from last season, they made any big additions in the offseason beside him. Aside from Rip Hamilton there wasnt any star caliber player and when they were on the floor together Wizards had 15-1 record. The NBA was a different landscape back then with very low pace, scoring, defensive 3sec rule still not in play, tight spacing. I put emphasis on first season , because that's when he could left some mark. Heading into second one it was expected to be more of a proper farewell than him thriving at 39-40 on a bad knee
🤣🤣His edge wasn't "largely" his grip. That's just ridiculous. Pretty sure Jordan having almost a 10 inch higher vertical than Kobe had a LITTLE more impact. Not to mention being much stronger.
@@brian4180 he was two inches taller and weighed more. So did a lot of guys. Its a ten foot goal so obviously vertical prowess has diminishing returns at some point. I dunno man, take it up with guy who coached them to 11 championships.
@@courenidomLebron himself has done everything humanly possible behind the scenes to try to discredit Jordan’s career accomplishments. Klutch Sports started a campaign years ago to elevate LeBron and diminish Jordan. You can’t fool us that watched both during their entire careers. 😂
Last week youtube's algorithm was guiding me to Derek Rose's 50 point game. So many people give him credit for that, but look at Jordan's # of games played a season, every season he played. Imagine how durable/tough Jordan was and now imagine Jordan was 10 years older than Rose was when Rose got 50, Rose was 30 years old, Jordan was 40 when he got 50.
Skills... Technician in the post, real actual-factual basketball skills. Unlike a certain person who takes a running start from the 3 point line, bulldozing all clumsy to the basket...
Lebron plays 21 seasons and is the leading scorer all time all of a sudden now people care about Wizards Mike when I was growing up they said we don’t talk about his time on the Wizards but now all of a sudden the narrative changes and he was amazing
It's simple, MJ's standards were that high that Wizards Jordan paled in comparison, so people felt that was a low point WITH RESPECT to his prime years. Then when Bron started hitting the late 30s, somehow that context was lost and it started becoming overcriticized because people who had never seen his prime or even his Wizards years were jumping on the bandwagon of MJ sucked at a late age, which led to MJ sucked in the 2000s, which again somehow led to MJ would not have done well in Bron's era. The stupidity of those logic jumps then created a backlash of 'no, MJ was NOT that bad', especially if we take into account all the factors that go into it, his age, his comeback from a longer retirement and him playing in a lower level team, MJ was pretty amazing. Heck, despite the general consensus being that LeBron has by and far the best performance of a late-career NBA star of all time and has now played to the same age MJ was in the Wizards as a perennial All-star and a perennial force in the NBA, MJ still has a higher number of 20+ scoring games after the age of 38, and around the same number of 20+ scoring games after the age of 37 Also note that every person commenting here is/was an NBA all-star calibre athlete, none of them being from MJ's generation, so this isn't some fan led agenda being suddenly pushed.
Also leading all time in turnovers and had played with the most all-stars for a HOFer in nba history and only got 4-10 in the finals while playing with all that talent. LeBadTeammate James
Jordan was a shell of himself in Washington I don't know what those dudes were talking about in the beginning of the video. Yet he still was able to go off on players when he wasn't injured which wasn't often.
There NBA players man before he got injured on the Wizards.They was like second place in the east, Most people are watching all 82 games.You must not have been
As someone who actually watched Jordan in his prime and the Wiz..I agree. Jordan with the Wiz was a shell of himself - an inefficient volume scorer (TS% well below 50%). The Wizards kept feeding him the ball and setting up isos for him because of his stature and reputation, but they were a sorry team and Jordan didn't make them better...probably made it worse because they weren't playing team ball.
@joshb.1118 that's a lie before Jordan got hurt they were 3rd in the east and had a top 10 defense he was averaging 25 6 6 an getting better before he tore his knee I doubt you watch one game of Mike ever
@@joshb.1118 Actually they won way more games with MJ on the floor so your totally wrong, yes they where a shitty team and yes MJ was diminished but diminished MJ was still better than 90% of gaurds in the league with 20ppts per game. His shooting splits in his second season improved greatly as well. So we are talking facts here not total horse shit Wizards won only 19 games in 2000-01 season Lost Juan Howard & Mitch Richmond who were combining for near 35ppg, and Jordan came in they won 37 games the next 2 seasons. So saying "Jordan didn't make them better" is false, are you claiming it was because of Kwami Brown they won more?
I remember him speaking on that back in those days. He said he was going to curtail the dunking part of his game to preserve his legs for the second half of his career. He said that the higher he jumped the longer distance to land and that would put stress on his legs and I think it was his lower legs that he was concerned about. Keep in mind he had that broken foot early in his career and was very anxious to get back in the lineup back then. He was like a caged animal fighting with the Bulls management but they made the right decision to not allow him back too soon. He saw that as a missed opportunity to make the playoffs back then.
Even Kobe wouldn't play the whole 82 game season with painful tendonitis in one knee. man is sitting out nuff games No athlete would do that except Michael Jordan 😮 General.
Jordan, whether liked or not, was a formidable player, dangerous rather. I respect his commitment to the game. MJ was the trailblazer of that "by any means necessary" killer mentality. He showed you who he was & later it paid off to simply live off the reputation alone. His opponents were afraid of his earlier works, which in term, made it easier for him to dominate later ('96-'98). One thing I will also mention about LeBron; he's also a formidable player. Had he entered the game when Jordan did, he'd be the Len Bias of that generation. No way was he PHYSICALLY going to be stopped moving that fast, that strong & that athletic. I truly believe LeBron would have won rings in the early to mid '90s just as I believe Jordan would have won in the millennium. They're both uber prototype players
Bron's only weakness is that he's lacking 'by any means necessary' and that's a big one for me and he's stuck at number 2 even though he's built like Hercules. If he had half of MJ killer mentality, let me scratch that. If LeBron didn't flop so much and everything remains the same, I'd regretfully would have called him the GOAT over MJ. Flopping from an Herculean athlete and generational talent like LeBron automatically disqualifies him from being mentioned next to Jordan. I don't even think he surpassed Kareem and Chef is biting on his heels. He needs an extra Durants type hardware and accolades to even catch up to Jordan...who only played equivalent of 13 years including Wizards. Why even bother mentioning him with the GOAT.
Certain levels of greatness and mastery are self evident. They don’t need an explanation. Jordan’s level is that level. There’s irony in my comment but shit, life is ironic. Just ask Alanis. 🤷🏾♂️
Footwork Mike reminded me of a chess master. You look at the tape, and he isn't doing anything intricate. It's like playing a video game with all the cheat codes at your disposal
Everybody so divided on Jordan vs LeBron in the comments when neither side is truly appreciating how good both players were. Was Jordan on the Wizards an all-star level player? No. Was he still a bucket despite his age? Absolutely.
He's visually slower than how he used to be, even compared to his 2nd 3peat. What's funny is, Kawhi Leonard and Demar Derozan looks just like 40 year old Jordan (in terms of athleticism) and still dominate the midrange.
Put lebron on the Wizards now and his stats would be way crazier than jordans. He has played more games, more minutes, every stat of his is higher (career totals) . I think it is much more impressive what lebron is doing now.
That’s one thing I always credit older players for. They didn’t sit out just because. They played every damn game with worse recovery techniques and technology than they have today. Those guys were warriors. These guys are more athletic but they’re so soft
FYI also... for anyone comparing MJ and Lebron. Borrowed from someone else: “Michael Jordan never came to me and asked for other players, he never asked me to trade for a player, never once did that happen”: When the late Jerry Krause revealed insight details of his professional relationship with the Bulls legend. That is and incredible statement! Poor sportsmanship Lebron wore a cast to a playoff postgame conference as an excuse & walked out without shaking hands after being eliminated by the Phoenix Suns MJ accomplished a lot more in much less time MJ (15 years, 6 titles, 5MVPS, 13 statistical titles (led the league in a single season), 9 All defense, 1 DPOY, 2 three-peats) Lebron (20 years+, 4 titles, 4MVPS, 2 statistical titles (led the league in a single season), 6 All defense, 0 three peats) MJ played with exponentially less talent MJ (4 NBA Top 75 members; 0 seasons with 2+ all stars; 9 top 5 picks; 11 total all star appearances Lebron ( 6 NBA Top 75 members; 6 seasons with 2+ all stars; 34 top 5 picks; 100+ total all star appearances) Lebron folded like a cheap tent when it counted the most JJ Barrea outplayed Lebron in the finals when Dallas beat the superteam of Miami. You cannot have a loser as the best of all time. When it counts the most, Lebron is a 4-6 in the finals. MJ in only ELEVEN complete seasons with the Bulls -10 STRAIGHT scoring titles, -Won Defensive Player of the Year, -9 times all defensive team, -9time All NBA, -5 league MVPs -6 finals MVPs A hall of fame resume separates MJ and Lebron 2 Finals, 2 FMVPs, 1 MVP, 1 DPOY, and 9 scoring titles is the difference between the true GOAT and the wannabe Lebron MJ on the GOAT debate in the press conference after winning 70 games in 1996 "No. I think that's something that I really can't say can be established," Jordan said. "Each of us played in different eras, with different teams, with different levels of success, and to compare all of them and say one's better than the next is an unfair justice to the art or to the artists. You know, being that Magic Johnson, Wilt Chamberlain, and all the guys before me were the artists of this game of basketball, and we've all learned from them, and we've improved the picture to a certain extent and to say that one improvement is better than all of it? It's an unfair assessment." Lebron on the GOAT debate "That one right there made me the greatest player of all time" Fun fact: In 2001 prior to Michael Jordan's meniscus tear the #Wizards were 26-21 Last 20 games pre injury MJ avg 27/6/5 Last 10 games pre injury MJ avg 29/6/6 Wizards were on pace to win 47 games #1 ranked defense and a 15-1 streak with Jordan and RIP playing together Michael Jordan's best games | In his final season, at 40 years old 45 pts, 6 ast, 3 reb, 1 stl, 1 blk 43 pts, 10 reb, 4 stl, 3 ast 41 pts, 12 reb, 4 ast, 3 stl 39 pts, 8 reb, 1 ast, 1 stl 35 pts, 11 reb, 6 ast 32 pts, 8 ast, 6 reb, 2 stl Michael Jordan's 37.0 MPG at 40 years old in 2002 Would be 2nd to Luka Doncic (37.5mpg) in this 2023-2024 NBA season
For all those who didn't know, the reason why MJ could still average 20ppg at age 38 after retiring for 3 years and was injured is because he was playing on another planet a league called "galactic dudes". There was nothing left for him on earth, so he left for 3 years and spent them on some foreign planet... I dare any player in the NBA to retire for 3 years and come back and play like Wizards MJ.
I still remember when Jordan was coming off a broken foot and was in the playoffs against a prime 80's Celtics and still has the highest score in playoff history. Jordan earned his paycheck, he loved the game, and he gave the fans what they wanted. Today's game is garbage, overpaid, load-managing divas!
What he just didn't have the help are the wizards the old bullets what I had a championship with Michael Jordan if he had the help he should have got a special award for playing with the wizards even though we didn't get a championship
Even in the longevity category he accomplished numbers above and beyond Lebron. goat goat goat. no doubt. As impressive as Lebron is at 38-40, he's just not as magical and lethal as MJ. He'll never top him, even with 2 more rings.
I think some of this comes from not playing in The Triangle. You got to see MJ operate within a different style offense. He was an excellent passer out of the post. I see where they are coming from. Jordan wasn't "better" you just got to see him operate on all skill, little athleticism, outside The Triangle.
Kobe Bryant was the Washington Wizards version of MJ because people don't understand how athletically average Mamba was and this was how Mike was in Washington not much athleticism was just average but still had the skill set to dominate and that's how Kobe was.
All 82 games at age 40 with a bad knee that’s 🐐 mentality MJ23
Yup, 82 to Cancun.🎉
where the mamba mentality came from
Bronny James beats him all day. He's so good because he's young. And being young means he's talented. That's why he got into the NBA, for that sole reason. He would destroy 50 year old Jordan you know that is fact
Yes.. he will do that and won't bail out as long as he can
@@nnayren he left his teammates and organization high and dry when he bailed out to play baseball. Does that count?
82 games at 40 is enougn for me....G.O.A.T.
Jordan had nothing left to prove at this point he was just playing for fun and the love of the game, and still schooling cats, just shows you what a freak of an athlete he was. Forever the greatest.
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And he gave ALL his salary to help the victims of 9/11, so he basically played for FREE! 🐐
LeBron Would NEVER
He Would Give a Dollar and Cry that he "helping" People
And Have his people take pics to try and "prove" he did it
Nah that was debunked. He wanted to show that he had longevity and got a lucky 50 point game against bum defenders 💀
@@Sectrix2pp Still the GOAT 🐐
One leg, dropping 51 at 40 years old in a league where points are harder to get is wild when you remember games weren’t ending with scores of 110+
You can say a lot bad things about MJ, but no one can criticize his ability to win
He had injuries 🤕 and still played great at that age .
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Soft af
@@MrMathoks calling any 90s player “soft” is ridiculous. You seen players nowadays? LeFlop James, Joel Embiid, Luka Doncic, and those are just a couple of the big names.
@@DailyReminder2Hydrate your 90s gods flopped, broke down before 40 and got in their feelings at the slightest trash talk. They are the definition of SOFT
@@MrMathoks maybe they occasionally flopped, but if you think they were softer than now, then you’re on something. One of many reasons why MJ was so good, is because he used anger as fuel, but in such a defense physical era, he couldn’t just bull through players throwing elbows shoulders etc. at people, so he was obviously more controlled. It’s also the era known best for defense. Anyways only a handful of players have played till 40, and 1 of them was Michael Jeffery Jordan, so I have no clue where you got that last fact. The average NBA career is 5 years, so most players in NBA history have retired before 40. If you think 90s players were soft, then you obviously either watch only clips, lowlight, or highlights. If you actually watch their games and still believe this nonsense, then something is genuinely wrong with you.
His Airness, The Black Cat, Behold the GOAT, none higher, none better, RESPECT!!
that right there made me the greatest of all time. 82 games on one leg at age 40.
thank you.
@@dojo2157 ball hogging and jacking up shots at 43%, all while not sniffing the playoffs and bullying a teenager relentlessly (with his hand picked pack of goons he had put on the team to be his muscle).
Resume caviar right there. 👍
@@hieroglyphy6181Why you diss Le Bronze like that ?!
Michael Jordan, legend, facts ❤.
I am glad to hear these guys acknowledging the fact he had the injury in that 1st year with the Wizards. Previous to him having that, the Wizards were doing extremely well and he was absolutely killing it. He slowed after that, but if you look at his stats from those years, it is really close to Kobe's lifetime states. And to everyone's point, he changed his game completely to still compete at a very high level. Amazing
Straight GOAT, stop all discussions.🐐
hell no
51 at 40 is nuts
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In deadball era too
On no knees... knee getting drained after every game...
And came back and dropped 46 the next night. This Jordan guy was way, way ahead of his time. BLUEPRINT, no question. No damn question!
and in a defensive era
I remember watching him play as a kid. I know how good he was. He is look out. Nobody comes close to passing him. Whatsoever
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@@startrekstarwars7629 I’ve been saying this for years & if we truly wanted to say that somebody or someone came close, then it would’ve been Kobe Bryant, but even he didn’t surpass MJ ( in my opinion ) 🤷🏾♂️
Something beautiful about this vintage Wizard Jordan is his pure basketball IQ and skillsets without any of those athleticism left. You get to watch his true footwork, how he posed his position, how he felt his defender, and how he used his body or speed change to create space for shots. To me, that's the moment when the true craftsmanship comes in for the art of the basketball.
would have been cool if somehow MJ, Hakeem, and Stockton could have did a run together at the end since they all got drafted together
No Barkley?
@@mikedownload4029 Backcourt: MJ and Stockton, Center: The Dream, Frontcourt: Sir Charles and Oscar Schmidt. I'll put them against any other team from the same draft.
Wouldn’t have happened because he wasn’t too fond about the teaming up
Floor Jordan was still incredible when he had the energy.
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I’m in my 40s and still out run kids half my age in baseball and I never worked out a day in my life just work everyday lol
Kenyon Martin called this version "Footwork Mike"
(when his knee wasn't hurt)
Floor Jordan?! 💀💀
Simply the best to ever do it, end of conversation!
Wait until you see 40 year old Lebron
@@sportstalkonly1442😂😂😂
Facts
@@sportstalkonly1442 Promise you he ain't dropping 51 and 46 back to back
@@graham5990 Oh yes he can. What chu talkin bout Willis. And it is possible, that he flops 51 times, and 46 times the very next night 😂
By the time that MJ got to Washington, he had absolutely nothing left to prove 🤷🏾♂️
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I guess not, since he led them to b2b 26-56 records. I guess he also had nothing to prove in his first six seasons with the Bulls? When he never led them deep in the playoffs until he was almost 30?
He should have stayed away he was just a waste of time and a distraction in D.C.
@@larsonpark3819 just by your reaction, I can tell you weren’t or aren’t old enough…
No need for me to elaborate!😑
@@nygmatik2699 Well said.👍
Respect for wizards MJ
Imagine Footwork Mike’s basketball IQ at this point in his career…a wiser *best to ever do it* MJ
Footwork Jordan was still a top 10 player. Ron Artest (I think) was on a podcast talking about how if he didn’t break his rib in the offseason, he would’ve averaged over 30 a game.
Michael Jordan is the Greatest of All Time🏀
MJ ... love it
It was like when that older guy walks into a pickup game of smirking kids.
I'm 37 and started playing 2 months ago after not playing since High School. A young guy recently asked if I wanted to play his friend. They give each other that little shit-eating grin. His friend is the SF for one of the high schools. I busted that young man's ass🤣😏🤷🏻♂️
@@josephreese6502 Exactly!
The goat Michael Jeffrey Jordan
He fked badder chicks than LeBron too
Jordan goes to a contender those years instead of a cellar dweller & he gets at least 1 more
Back in the early 2000s, we subscribed to the NBA package in 2001/02 & 2002/03 just so we could see MJ on the Wizards. I remember watching him drop 40+ points 8 times including the 51 point game vs. the Charlotte Hornets. He had a few buzzer beaters as well. When Michael played on the Bulls in the 80's and especially the 90's, all Chicago did was win, win, win. It seemed like a majority of the games went to the Bulls. They were unstoppable. Jordan would have 45 points, Kukoc would have 25, Pippen would have 20, etc.
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It goes to show how he knew how to switch his game up at a new way of doing things that he didn’t do before and mastered it
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He played more like Paul Pierce and Alex English in his late 30’s and early 40’s on the Wizards
Simply the Best, better than all the rest.
He so underrated with Wizard but was still a beast Goat shyt.
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Only if you look at highlights. Jordan was a shell of himself with the Wizards. Less efficient. Little D. They fed him the ball because he was Jordan.
@joshb.1118 lol at 42 he was still balling we know he wasn't prime MJ but he was still Goat and his shot was more deadly
I know Jordan fans won’t like this, especially the younger Jordan fans who only saw his wizards attempt through highlights and stuff, but as somebody who watched it He was a shell of his former self. He should’ve never come back IMO. A lot of times it was kind of sad to watch.
This is what the greatest ever does
Father Time: It's over, my son. Time to rest.
Jordan: It ain't over until *I say it's over.*
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Jordan: …and I took it personal.
You spelled Lebron wrong. The guy jordan youre speaking of had to retire 3 times.
It was more like "hold my cigar"
@@JP-ks3kh no he meant what he said forget LeBron
His 2nd year with wash was pretty good, his scoring eff was 45%. His 1st yr, his scoring eff was 42% and his average in chicago was 52%. His 2nd yr at washington, he had Stack, Larry hughes, Haywood, Laettner, Oak, Russell. Thats a decent team and they should have made the playoffs with that group. Their last 20 games, they were 6-14 which is underachieving for that group.
Just think if he wasn't hurt......
If if if.....if your aunt had balls she would be your uncle 😢
pre injury wizards jordan average 25/6/5 which put him near identical to kobe during that year
@@spurfan76 ikr & when he first came into the league, he broke his foot, and had to rehab, so imagine if that injury never ever happened, and I am not even a Jordan fan, and I didn’t find this out, until I watched ( The Last Dance ) 🤷🏾♂️
I saw the Charlotte game live and another wizards game where he scored 40 some odd points. He was amazing, I also saw the LaBradford Smith game at the US Arena in 1993, I think he was 16 for 16 in the first half. It was definitely like seeing God disguised as Michael Jordan.. I was eight years old. Michael Jordan is the goat.
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Good scorer....
He's just living proof that anyone from that era could play in modern times...He was like 40
This man is amazing
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See how he toyed with a young dallas team who demolished leflop..
Same thing I was thinking.
Key word “young” 🤦♂️
@@Robss_Bla Bla Bla...
Excuses
Not Today Lebum James
@@Elvis-pj6gv context and excuses are not the same thing lol
This wasn't even the team Bron played, but I see you can't go a day without mentioning Bron
Imagine jordan actually coming back during that time and putting him on a team that actually had a chance to really do something like a playoff type of team jordan probably would've had a few more rings
Pretty darned athletic for 39/40 yrs old 🐐
He's the Goat, hes what made me love B- ball
They were in route to make it to the Playoffs until his knee injury
People forget, I was hot when I felt like they got snubbed because if I can remember correctly they missed the playoffs by one or two games 😩
goat, no question
If not for that leg issue, they def woulda made playoffs
He was A Balla! Reminds me of my 46 year old version. No more hops but fundamentally sound and simple.....AND the jump shot neva dies!
that pump fake was a thing of beauty
Was he incredible with Wizards, well maybe not. Giving all circumstances and factors Jordans stint there wasnt any dissapointment. Coming into first season he had damaged finger in his shooting hand, they had to drain fluids of his knees, he suffered broken rib in scrimmage. And yes his FG% dropped from his Bulls days, but as the season progressed he was getting better, for 46 games before he torn his meniscus(not sure it was that tbh) had a line of 25,6,5. Wizards stood at 26-20 eyeing on the playoffs. Whats worth mentioning Jordan was real defensive anchor of that team and turnaround from last season, they made any big additions in the offseason beside him. Aside from Rip Hamilton there wasnt any star caliber player and when they were on the floor together Wizards had 15-1 record. The NBA was a different landscape back then with very low pace, scoring, defensive 3sec rule still not in play, tight spacing. I put emphasis on first season , because that's when he could left some mark. Heading into second one it was expected to be more of a proper farewell than him thriving at 39-40 on a bad knee
Lebalco who?? MJ is the undisputed GOAT, period
MJ could have easily won 15 championships had he had a better team in the mid-80s and had he not played baseball in the mid-90s
Mike’s edge is largely his grip. Phil said it when he compared him to Kobe. Long fingers forever!
🤣🤣His edge wasn't "largely" his grip. That's just ridiculous. Pretty sure Jordan having almost a 10 inch higher vertical than Kobe had a LITTLE more impact. Not to mention being much stronger.
@@brian4180 he was two inches taller and weighed more. So did a lot of guys. Its a ten foot goal so obviously vertical prowess has diminishing returns at some point.
I dunno man, take it up with guy who coached them to 11 championships.
for all the LeStans, your boi have 1 season where he played all 82... ONE
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Every video about Jordan must also be about lebron. Nice
@@courenidomLebron himself has done everything humanly possible behind the scenes to try to discredit Jordan’s career accomplishments. Klutch Sports started a campaign years ago to elevate LeBron and diminish Jordan. You can’t fool us that watched both during their entire careers. 😂
@@StoneGoneyou would have to be about 60 to have seen both play. And I mean honestly to have watched both play in College and Pro
When you retire a few time and really only play 14 years lol
MJ is the BTEDI‼️
Averaging 20ppg on one leg, just think if the knee didn't give out? Could probably get back to 28-30ppg the way he was scoring.
Mj Wizards was effin dangerous he sent players to the twilight zone
The best MJ was probably in his early 30s. During that time, his combination of athleticism and skill was at its peak.
Last week youtube's algorithm was guiding me to Derek Rose's 50 point game. So many people give him credit for that, but look at Jordan's # of games played a season, every season he played. Imagine how durable/tough Jordan was and now imagine Jordan was 10 years older than Rose was when Rose got 50, Rose was 30 years old, Jordan was 40 when he got 50.
At his age, he was in top 5 of scoring leader before he got injured.
Skills...
Technician in the post, real actual-factual basketball skills. Unlike a certain person who takes a running start from the 3 point line, bulldozing all clumsy to the basket...
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Who could you possibly be referring to? 🫢🤷🏻♂️😏😏😁👍
his fg dropped by 10% with the wizards lil bro
@@MakaveliDior So what does that mean to you lil bro?
You're embarrassing yourself. Nobody fucking mentioned Lebron. Stop obsessing.
Imagine if Jordan was on a contending team during this time. We would have added two more rings.
Seating out 3 years challenging yourself is crazy leave in 98 then coming back in 01
Lebron plays 21 seasons and is the leading scorer all time all of a sudden now people care about Wizards Mike when I was growing up they said we don’t talk about his time on the Wizards but now all of a sudden the narrative changes and he was amazing
It's simple, MJ's standards were that high that Wizards Jordan paled in comparison, so people felt that was a low point WITH RESPECT to his prime years. Then when Bron started hitting the late 30s, somehow that context was lost and it started becoming overcriticized because people who had never seen his prime or even his Wizards years were jumping on the bandwagon of MJ sucked at a late age, which led to MJ sucked in the 2000s, which again somehow led to MJ would not have done well in Bron's era. The stupidity of those logic jumps then created a backlash of 'no, MJ was NOT that bad', especially if we take into account all the factors that go into it, his age, his comeback from a longer retirement and him playing in a lower level team, MJ was pretty amazing.
Heck, despite the general consensus being that LeBron has by and far the best performance of a late-career NBA star of all time and has now played to the same age MJ was in the Wizards as a perennial All-star and a perennial force in the NBA, MJ still has a higher number of 20+ scoring games after the age of 38, and around the same number of 20+ scoring games after the age of 37
Also note that every person commenting here is/was an NBA all-star calibre athlete, none of them being from MJ's generation, so this isn't some fan led agenda being suddenly pushed.
Also leading all time in turnovers and had played with the most all-stars for a HOFer in nba history and only got 4-10 in the finals while playing with all that talent. LeBadTeammate James
Jordan was a shell of himself in Washington I don't know what those dudes were talking about in the beginning of the video. Yet he still was able to go off on players when he wasn't injured which wasn't often.
Jordan was killing until his tore his meniscus before that is probably what they are talking about
There NBA players man before he got injured on the Wizards.They was like second place in the east, Most people are watching all 82 games.You must not have been
As someone who actually watched Jordan in his prime and the Wiz..I agree. Jordan with the Wiz was a shell of himself - an inefficient volume scorer (TS% well below 50%). The Wizards kept feeding him the ball and setting up isos for him because of his stature and reputation, but they were a sorry team and Jordan didn't make them better...probably made it worse because they weren't playing team ball.
@joshb.1118 that's a lie before Jordan got hurt they were 3rd in the east and had a top 10 defense he was averaging 25 6 6 an getting better before he tore his knee I doubt you watch one game of Mike ever
@@joshb.1118 Actually they won way more games with MJ on the floor so your totally wrong, yes they where a shitty team and yes MJ was diminished but diminished MJ was still better than 90% of gaurds in the league with 20ppts per game. His shooting splits in his second season improved greatly as well. So we are talking facts here not total horse shit Wizards won only 19 games in 2000-01 season Lost Juan Howard & Mitch Richmond who were combining for near 35ppg, and Jordan came in they won 37 games the next 2 seasons. So saying "Jordan didn't make them better" is false, are you claiming it was because of Kwami Brown they won more?
40 year old Mike was anytjing but insane i think even Mike will admit that
Mr. Jordan, U forgot DC.😢! You never done, nothing 😭 for US. I'm 58yrs & myself; send over1 million 😢
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LeBron can't beat that skilled and it doesn't matter about size.
Haha yea ok
@@brianharron3435 it's about will. Not size. LeBron has weak spots.
@@houstonbuckley8466just like Kobe and mj
Funny
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No LeBron isn't this skillful
At 40 never flops
The first 3 peat of chicago bulls was the Air Jordan version the 2nd 3 peat of chicago bulls -- was the fade-away version of MJ.
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I remember him speaking on that back in those days. He said he was going to curtail the dunking part of his game to preserve his legs for the second half of his career. He said that the higher he jumped the longer distance to land and that would put stress on his legs and I think it was his lower legs that he was concerned about. Keep in mind he had that broken foot early in his career and was very anxious to get back in the lineup back then. He was like a caged animal fighting with the Bulls management but they made the right decision to not allow him back too soon. He saw that as a missed opportunity to make the playoffs back then.
He had the whistle with him too.
Even Kobe wouldn't play the whole 82 game season with painful tendonitis in one knee. man is sitting out nuff games
No athlete would do that except Michael Jordan 😮
General.
Jordan, whether liked or not, was a formidable player, dangerous rather. I respect his commitment to the game. MJ was the trailblazer of that "by any means necessary" killer mentality. He showed you who he was & later it paid off to simply live off the reputation alone. His opponents were afraid of his earlier works, which in term, made it easier for him to dominate later ('96-'98). One thing I will also mention about LeBron; he's also a formidable player. Had he entered the game when Jordan did, he'd be the Len Bias of that generation. No way was he PHYSICALLY going to be stopped moving that fast, that strong & that athletic. I truly believe LeBron would have won rings in the early to mid '90s just as I believe Jordan would have won in the millennium. They're both uber prototype players
True, Bron and MJ are in a class by themselves
Bron's only weakness is that he's lacking 'by any means necessary' and that's a big one for me and he's stuck at number 2 even though he's built like Hercules. If he had half of MJ killer mentality, let me scratch that. If LeBron didn't flop so much and everything remains the same, I'd regretfully would have called him the GOAT over MJ.
Flopping from an Herculean athlete and generational talent like LeBron automatically disqualifies him from being mentioned next to Jordan. I don't even think he surpassed Kareem and Chef is biting on his heels. He needs an extra Durants type hardware and accolades to even catch up to Jordan...who only played equivalent of 13 years including Wizards. Why even bother mentioning him with the GOAT.
Certain levels of greatness and mastery are self evident. They don’t need an explanation. Jordan’s level is that level. There’s irony in my comment but shit, life is ironic. Just ask Alanis. 🤷🏾♂️
Footwork Mike reminded me of a chess master. You look at the tape, and he isn't doing anything intricate. It's like playing a video game with all the cheat codes at your disposal
Michael Jordan wasn't in the NBA at 41.
yeah, I think they mean 40
Everybody so divided on Jordan vs LeBron in the comments when neither side is truly appreciating how good both players were. Was Jordan on the Wizards an all-star level player? No. Was he still a bucket despite his age? Absolutely.
Imagine just liking both 🤣🙌
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He's visually slower than how he used to be, even compared to his 2nd 3peat.
What's funny is, Kawhi Leonard and Demar Derozan looks just like 40 year old Jordan (in terms of athleticism) and still dominate the midrange.
Put lebron on the Wizards now and his stats would be way crazier than jordans. He has played more games, more minutes, every stat of his is higher (career totals) . I think it is much more impressive what lebron is doing now.
Lebron’s longevity is unmatched
He was fantastic for his age. He was nothing close to what he was in his prime. So Rasheed and them trying to argue that he was better is ridiculous.
That’s one thing I always credit older players for. They didn’t sit out just because. They played every damn game with worse recovery techniques and technology than they have today. Those guys were warriors. These guys are more athletic but they’re so soft
FYI also... for anyone comparing MJ and Lebron. Borrowed from someone else:
“Michael Jordan never came to me and asked for other players, he never asked me to trade for a player, never once did that happen”: When the late Jerry Krause revealed insight details of his professional relationship with the Bulls legend. That is and incredible statement!
Poor sportsmanship
Lebron wore a cast to a playoff postgame conference as an excuse & walked out without shaking hands after being eliminated by the Phoenix Suns
MJ accomplished a lot more in much less time
MJ (15 years, 6 titles, 5MVPS, 13 statistical titles (led the league in a single season), 9 All defense, 1 DPOY, 2 three-peats)
Lebron (20 years+, 4 titles, 4MVPS, 2 statistical titles (led the league in a single season), 6 All defense, 0 three peats)
MJ played with exponentially less talent
MJ (4 NBA Top 75 members; 0 seasons with 2+ all stars; 9 top 5 picks; 11 total all star appearances
Lebron ( 6 NBA Top 75 members; 6 seasons with 2+ all stars; 34 top 5 picks; 100+ total all star appearances)
Lebron folded like a cheap tent when it counted the most
JJ Barrea outplayed Lebron in the finals when Dallas beat the superteam of Miami.
You cannot have a loser as the best of all time. When it counts the most, Lebron is a 4-6 in the finals.
MJ in only ELEVEN complete seasons with the Bulls
-10 STRAIGHT scoring titles,
-Won Defensive Player of the Year,
-9 times all defensive team,
-9time All NBA,
-5 league MVPs
-6 finals MVPs
A hall of fame resume separates MJ and Lebron
2 Finals, 2 FMVPs, 1 MVP, 1 DPOY, and 9 scoring titles is the difference between the true GOAT and the wannabe Lebron
MJ on the GOAT debate in the press conference after winning 70 games in 1996
"No. I think that's something that I really can't say can be established," Jordan said. "Each of us played in different eras, with different teams, with different levels of success, and to compare all of them and say one's better than the next is an unfair justice to the art or to the artists. You know, being that Magic Johnson, Wilt Chamberlain, and all the guys before me were the artists of this game of basketball, and we've all learned from them, and we've improved the picture to a certain extent and to say that one improvement is better than all of it? It's an unfair assessment."
Lebron on the GOAT debate
"That one right there made me the greatest player of all time"
Fun fact: In 2001 prior to Michael Jordan's meniscus tear the #Wizards were 26-21
Last 20 games pre injury MJ avg 27/6/5
Last 10 games pre injury MJ avg 29/6/6
Wizards were on pace to win 47 games
#1 ranked defense and a 15-1 streak with Jordan and RIP playing together
Michael Jordan's best games | In his final season, at 40 years old
45 pts, 6 ast, 3 reb, 1 stl, 1 blk
43 pts, 10 reb, 4 stl, 3 ast
41 pts, 12 reb, 4 ast, 3 stl
39 pts, 8 reb, 1 ast, 1 stl
35 pts, 11 reb, 6 ast
32 pts, 8 ast, 6 reb, 2 stl
Michael Jordan's 37.0 MPG at 40 years old in 2002
Would be 2nd to Luka Doncic (37.5mpg) in this 2023-2024 NBA season
That should give you an idea of how good a player is when his athleticism is going or gone!
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For all those who didn't know, the reason why MJ could still average 20ppg at age 38 after retiring for 3 years and was injured is because he was playing on another planet a league called "galactic dudes". There was nothing left for him on earth, so he left for 3 years and spent them on some foreign planet...
I dare any player in the NBA to retire for 3 years and come back and play like Wizards MJ.
Messed up knee and still played 82 games 🤯🤯🤯
I still remember when Jordan was coming off a broken foot and was in the playoffs against a prime 80's Celtics and still has the highest score in playoff history. Jordan earned his paycheck, he loved the game, and he gave the fans what they wanted. Today's game is garbage, overpaid, load-managing divas!
What he just didn't have the help are the wizards the old bullets what I had a championship with Michael Jordan if he had the help he should have got a special award for playing with the wizards even though we didn't get a championship
Even in the longevity category he accomplished numbers above and beyond Lebron.
goat goat goat. no doubt.
As impressive as Lebron is at 38-40, he's just not as magical and lethal as MJ. He'll never top him, even with 2 more rings.
I think some of this comes from not playing in The Triangle. You got to see MJ operate within a different style offense. He was an excellent passer out of the post. I see where they are coming from. Jordan wasn't "better" you just got to see him operate on all skill, little athleticism, outside The Triangle.
Well said !
3min video lol
love wizards MJ...but maybe you can do a better ending, rather than just the video ending abruptly 😅
🤣🤣 my bad fam
He could play now at 60 and score 20 in today's no D league
Don’t be silly now, he’s 60
I got 100 pounds to shed to be what I was and over 15 years of rust at 38
Kobe Bryant was the Washington Wizards version of MJ because people don't understand how athletically average Mamba was and this was how Mike was in Washington not much athleticism was just average but still had the skill set to dominate and that's how Kobe was.
Boy had them buffs on 😂😂 chill out mike
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Take this down......lebum james 😢😢😢😢
His FG percentage would indicate his shot did NOT become more dangerous. This is revisionist history.
wish i could just take seasons off of work
That's cool 😎.
Now imagine what he could've done if he didn't retire. 🙄
I love MJ, especially his shoes it's all I wear, but honestly, his 38-40 run is not even close to LBJ