Is Jurassic World : Dominion a 'science thriller'?

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  • I sadly saw Dominion. As well as that, I also saw it was apparently a science thriller.
    I disagree.
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  • @bumberquest3031
    @bumberquest3031 Год назад +338

    I often think people forget that the reason that dinosaurs are so inherently cool in the first place is that they were just animals apart of the environment just like what we see today. When you start propping up dinosaurs as these highly developed killing machines that "want to watch the world burn" you have effectively made goofy fiction out of something that was very real. Like how did you make an actual animal feel less feasibly real than a Xenomorph??

    • @treyrex5987
      @treyrex5987 Год назад +46

      That's... honestly so true. Especially with the Xenomorph example.

    • @rac1equalsbestgame853
      @rac1equalsbestgame853 Год назад +35

      Fr, the Zenomorph actually looks like a plausible living creature in comparison to JW dinosaurs.
      Like I can easily suspend my disbelief and see how in some alien planet a creature like the zenomorph evolved via natural selection

    • @goji5052
      @goji5052 Год назад +8

      THANK YOU. FOR FINALLY SAYING IT. OML.

    • @AlanGChenery
      @AlanGChenery Год назад +18

      Tbh Jurassic World felt painfully like the plots found frequently In the dark horse aliens comics.
      Particularly Aliens:Rogue.
      In that one a research station has a large stable xenomorph hive in an artificial environment so they can be researched, observed, and harvested in relative safety... And the mad scientist of the hour makes a genetically modified super-alien-queen (or in this case a 'king') which escapes, kills folk, releases the hive, and in the end is defeated by the classic queen and xenomorphs.
      Just combine that with any of the dozen Alien stories where a mad general (or corp boss) tries to make tame xenomorph super soldiers (aka the raptor plot), and while it works for a while, they inevitably eat said general at the end.

    • @Betweentheraindrops8
      @Betweentheraindrops8 Год назад +14

      I never realized until now how realistic the xenomorphs are compared to JW. Pretty sad. A lot of that has to do with the Alien franchise having better stories. It just goes to show how important the plot is, as it can make a literal monster feel that much more realistic.

  • @Dinoslay
    @Dinoslay Год назад +97

    ”You heard what others had done and took the next step. You didn’t earn the knowledge for yourself so you didn’t take any responsibility for it. You stood on the shoulders of geniuses to accomplish something as fast as you could and before you even knew what you had you had patented it, packaged it, slapped it on a plastic lunchbox and now you’re selling it, you want to sell it,” - Ian Malcolm, Jurassic Park.
    Seriously, that entire quote more than describes the whole sequel deal in a nutshell. Dominion doesn’t really approach any new area of what was already told. Even the 2015 film did that better with the Indominus and an operating theme park. All that the sixth film does is re-heat earlier leftovers and adds some ”new” lazily built pseudo-science with the locusts to justify itself and the all-important merchandise that it helps to sell. Dominion is a corporate product standing on the shoulders of yesterday’s more skilled storytellers through and through. A franchise DLC, nothing more and nothing less. What else is there to say, really?

    • @alang.bandala8863
      @alang.bandala8863 Год назад +11

      There is an actual commentary from Rick Carter (producer and designer from JP 1993) that predict the entire JW saga

    • @dozierworld4350
      @dozierworld4350 27 дней назад +1

      We should make our own entertainment

  • @paperbinder356
    @paperbinder356 Год назад +47

    Despite all the film’s failures, the one positive thing I took from this film was that we were given a genuinely dangerous herbivore in therizinosaurus. Sure it could’ve been done significantly better but it was still cool to see a non meat eater presented as a real threat to the protagonists

    • @kade-qt1zu
      @kade-qt1zu Год назад +29

      To be fair, dangerous herbivores have been around since the Lost World. It's just that the Therizinosaurus is the first example of a dangerous herbivore having a spotlight.

    • @losingmymind611
      @losingmymind611 Год назад +4

      but why did they give the toys tyrannosaur teeth :(

  • @dapperraptor8789
    @dapperraptor8789 Год назад +51

    I think the worst thing about dominion was it’s treatment of the giganotosaurus. Despite its ugly design I think behaviourally it’s the best dinosaur in the film because it actually acted like an animal.
    The way it died was so un needed and would’ve been better if the giga just walked away instead of trying to fight a Tyrannosaurus rex and Therizinosaurus simultaneously.

    • @JPOG7TV
      @JPOG7TV Год назад +9

      I hate how Colin tried to make a monster and it ends up being the most chill big carnivore in the franchise.

    • @mrizqyabd1071
      @mrizqyabd1071 Год назад +4

      At this point they thought the target audience was children , and they forced a fan service out of the blue . Worst case that this fight has no connection to the plot, not to mention, T-rex Asspulled

    • @mrizqyabd1071
      @mrizqyabd1071 Год назад +1

      ​@@JPOG7TV yeah, he mentioned the giga would like a "joker"

    • @ctdaniels7049
      @ctdaniels7049 Год назад +2

      The funny thing about gigas is that they really *do* just have smoother skull designs. It's hard to compete with the action-hero jawline of the Rex. u.u

    • @matthewconnor696
      @matthewconnor696 Год назад +3

      The giga design in dominion isn’t even that bad, it pretty tame in comparison to the designs of the dinosaurs in Jurassic: The Hunted for PS3 and Xbox 360

  • @adamgrogory
    @adamgrogory Год назад +164

    One of the worst things I remember thinking about during Dominion was when Owen just straight up choked one of the Dilophosaurus out and threw it away. And it had its venom leak out of its mouth like it was coughing up blood or something. It just felt so disrespectful, especially in a meta sense. That the dinosaurs have just become these disposeable vessels for nostalgia and mindless thrills for getting butts in theaters with no reverance or respect paid to them as actual animals. Can you imagine someone choking a dinosaur out in Jurassic Park at yeeting it like some wortless ragdoll? I don’t think so

    • @treyrex5987
      @treyrex5987 Год назад +16

      Yeah. When I saw that scene for the first time, I actually thought it was pretty cool but now that the hype is gone and after watching the film multiple times.... I realize how ridiculous and disrespectful that scene was.

    • @kennethsatria6607
      @kennethsatria6607 Год назад +19

      I kept waiting and waiting that maybe this was a small comedic prelude to when the juviniles run off and then a full grown Dilophosaurus could appear and force them all to retreat.
      But this movie cucked me all the way to the ending.

    • @grendel8342
      @grendel8342 Год назад +11

      tbh though if you moved fast enough, you could feasibly beat a JP dilophosaurus to death. The same way you could feasibly beat a coyote or dog off you when they attack (speaking from personal hiking experience, coyotes and feral dogs are dangerous as fuck but a few thrown rocks and sticks handles it fine) But i get your meaning in the comment.

    • @blackhammer5035
      @blackhammer5035 Год назад +3

      I think the closest anyone gets to someone choking out a dinosaur is Alan Grant when they're watching the baby dino hatch and he finds out they made raptors.

    • @RuthenTheDarkMagus
      @RuthenTheDarkMagus Год назад +11

      Yes, I could actually. The main things that make the dinosaurs in Jurassic Park 1 so dangerous is the combination of humans underestimating what the dinosaurs can do, and the fact that the humans can't get access to any weapons. This then gradually devolves over time from "The humans don't get a chance to shoot or are too panicked to shoot straight" like in the Lost World, to "They're literally bulletproof monsters" in the World series. Being able to take on a juvenile Dilophosaurus by treating it with the proper amount of danger is great because it finally reasserts that they are ultimately just animals, something which was sorely lacking.

  • @Godzilla00X
    @Godzilla00X Год назад +62

    The biggest thrill when i saw it was the $5 I found on the ground in the parking lot. How can a movie with dinosaurs on the mainland be so bad? That premise literally writes itself, infinite story possibilities

    • @obambagaming1467
      @obambagaming1467 Год назад +10

      Instead we have to focus on locusts

    • @treyrex5987
      @treyrex5987 Год назад +5

      @@obambagaming1467 I hate those damn locusts.

    • @beastmaster0934
      @beastmaster0934 Год назад +7

      @@treyrex5987
      Yeah.
      And they make no sense either.
      Insects that big in the modern world are impossible. They have a respiration system that uses holes in their skin that lead to their internal organs, and thus need a lot of oxygen in the atmosphere to grow to the size they do in the film.
      Irl, the second those locusts were released, they’d suffocate and die minutes later due to not having enough oxygen.

    • @Bagelgeuse
      @Bagelgeuse Год назад +2

      It shouldn't be possible to make a movie about a global dinosaur outbreak bad. And even if it fails critically, it should still be fun. Yet Dominion comes along and somehow succeeds at making DINOSAURS boring.

    • @matthewconnor696
      @matthewconnor696 Год назад

      Dominion isn’t even that bad, there are way worse movies that have been released recently that make dominion look good

  • @gogglesesm9122
    @gogglesesm9122 Год назад +161

    I gotta thank Dominion for one thing it kinda make me bond with my partner, we were talking about movies we have recently watched and when we got to the topic of Dominion we both agreed and bonded on how terrible the movie was, now we are 6 months into our relationship xD

    • @treyrex5987
      @treyrex5987 Год назад +17

      Congratulations.

    • @Bagelgeuse
      @Bagelgeuse Год назад +27

      Well, at least something good came out of this movie. Congratulations.

    • @austinames9340
      @austinames9340 Год назад +27

      Life found a way

    • @kristianj.8798
      @kristianj.8798 Год назад

      @@austinames9340 Life, uh, found a way

    • @thedripkingofangmar6778
      @thedripkingofangmar6778 Год назад +8

      If she/he hates JP Dominion then he/she may really be the right one

  • @treyrex5987
    @treyrex5987 Год назад +32

    I don't think it even knows what it wants to be. One moment it's a teen drama, then an action movie, then tries to be a thriller, then becomes a mystery, than attempts to be a natural disaster/apocalyptic film and it does all of these WRONG. This is coming from someone who actually likes the film as it is too. It mainly fails at being the one thing that matters the most... just being a Jurassic film.

  • @matteolucarelli4615
    @matteolucarelli4615 Год назад +43

    Christ my man, you just unleashed more hell on Trevorrow in one single video than all the times you trash talked Magnamalo in the history of the channel XD I approve of this.

  • @DefinitelyNotEmma
    @DefinitelyNotEmma Год назад +33

    "The short answer is the thumbnail, the long answer the rest of the video"

  • @jamescampbell4416
    @jamescampbell4416 Год назад +255

    It’s so unfortunate how low the Jurassic franchise has fallen

    • @bobisuncanny2760
      @bobisuncanny2760 Год назад +18

      At least the first 2 JW tried but this and Camp creatacous is pure bullshit

    • @DefinitelyNotEmma
      @DefinitelyNotEmma Год назад +41

      You could say it's a...fallen kingdom

    • @obambagaming1467
      @obambagaming1467 Год назад +19

      @@bobisuncanny2760 tbh even fallen kingdom wasn't even trying.
      They tried to go into a more "horror" direction.
      I actually love this idea. The horror aspect is why I love Lost World and some parts of the original movie so much.
      But they only did that near the end and it was more action than actual horror...
      Also, as usual, all the main characters had massive plot armor, exspecially the girl.
      I actually hate it when they include children in such movies since you can be 100% be certain they will never die in a hollywood movie, which makes it incredibly predictable and boring.
      Would this have been something like a cartoon or anime like Primal, it would have been much different.

    • @ohyea8486
      @ohyea8486 Год назад

      Real

    • @roguetheoutlander8800
      @roguetheoutlander8800 Год назад +9

      ​@@bobisuncanny2760 those first 2 JW movies are just JP and TLW:JP, but worse. Colin doesnt even trying, he just took some things, put it together and hoped for it to be good and then hide it behind nostalgia and lots of nonsense tyrannosaurus scenes

  • @Bonedragon1300
    @Bonedragon1300 Год назад +32

    another thing was the stupid hand thing. they even brought up that holding up a hand as a sign to "stop" worked on the raptors in World is because they were raised to respond to that action, any other dinosaur that they tried that on would have ignored the hand at best or bitten it off at worst, and that's one of the things that was bothering me the entire time I was watching Dominion

    • @Bagelgeuse
      @Bagelgeuse Год назад +3

      If I remember right, Chris Pratt said the hand thing was a display of dominance. Kind of hard to display dominance to wild dinosaurs that have to look DOWN just to see the hand and the person it's attached to.

    • @Bonedragon1300
      @Bonedragon1300 Год назад +14

      @@Bagelgeuse exactly, the raptors recognized it as a dominance display because they were trained since hatching to recognize it as such, none of the other animals would know what the means. you can't just put your hand out to a bear or lion and expect them to do anything other then claw at it or bite it, why would a multi ton dinosaur be any different?

    • @treyrex5987
      @treyrex5987 Год назад +5

      Remember in the first Jurassic World, when Hoskins tried to do the same thing to Delta after he was giving his monologue... only to have her bite his hand and kill him. I miss that. 😔 Now anybody (especially Owen) can put their hands up and that will somehow halt a Carnotaurus and Allosaurus dead in their tracks.

    • @ctdaniels7049
      @ctdaniels7049 Год назад

      To be fair, I saw it work on a cheetah once. Those goobers.

  • @willtroman9286
    @willtroman9286 Год назад +18

    Trevorrow wanted the Giga to be a supervillain, yet it really does nothing wrong and could maybe even be considered a victim at the film's end

    • @rhedosaurus2251
      @rhedosaurus2251 Год назад +10

      Worse, in the cut prolouge, the original Giganotosaurus was actually DEFENDING himself from the T. rex. The revived Giganotosaurus didn't even remember the fight.

    • @jackdeviluke3969
      @jackdeviluke3969 Год назад +4

      I actually agree giga did nothing wrong they only had be the villain to cater to rex fanboys

    • @XxTheCupidKidxX
      @XxTheCupidKidxX 3 месяца назад

      @@rhedosaurus2251the film implying rexy remembered that fight is so unbelievably stupid, you don't remember shit that happens to a dinosaur that wasn't actually you 66 MYA lmao

    • @YEY0806
      @YEY0806 2 месяца назад

      ​@jackdeviluke3969 Rex fan boys, whenever you bring up another therapod: 🤬😡

  • @masterrafferty4065
    @masterrafferty4065 Год назад +13

    Even if Therizinosaurus wasn't my favorite dinosaur, it still would have been the best scene in the movie because it was actually suspenseful rather than simply loud.

  • @ghatastrophe5444
    @ghatastrophe5444 Год назад +92

    "To my great regret" is the best video opener when it comes to talking about this movie lmao

    • @taliesincoleman6569
      @taliesincoleman6569 Год назад +1

      no it's not...not when there are people that genuinely like it... already it just alienates them and makes it especially hard to hear his opinion

    • @hplovecraftcat
      @hplovecraftcat Год назад +17

      ​@@taliesincoleman6569 even if you enjoyed the movie that doesn't make it good. The movie is bad. You like it, but it's still bad. I respect your opinion, but a fact is a fact.

    • @taliesincoleman6569
      @taliesincoleman6569 Год назад +1

      @@hplovecraftcat i can counter that argument with "just because you don't like something, doesn't make fully bad"
      it's not great but it's not god awful like the video is trying to suggest. it's more somewhere in the middle.

    • @Bagelgeuse
      @Bagelgeuse Год назад +12

      ​@@taliesincoleman6569And whose problem is that? If they're so close minded that they can't accept an alternative opinion, then don't watch the video. It's really that simple. If people want to watch a more positive review, then there's Swrve's.

    • @taliesincoleman6569
      @taliesincoleman6569 Год назад

      @@Bagelgeuse perhaps... but not just Swrve

  • @cyan_2877
    @cyan_2877 Год назад +21

    I think a neat concept for a Jurassic movie could be soft tissue for dinosaurs. A lot of modern study about dinosaurs also involves look at what soft tissue they had and what the capabilities of dinosaurs are. Maybe they bring back dinos and they didn't expect dinosaurs to grow weird fleshy bit as adults or something. The scientists had only looked at the bones and had arrogantly assumed that was the whole story. Then a dinosaur does something and makes everything go to shit. You can have various side plots about soft tissue structure or intelligence of dinosaurs.

    • @ctdaniels7049
      @ctdaniels7049 Год назад

      Maybe they go with more lizard dna in the dinos because the bird dna keeps giving their raptors wattles, which are uncomfortable at high speed. :P

  • @mr.rathalos1155
    @mr.rathalos1155 Год назад +53

    can’t wait to watch through the entire vid keep up the good work UCH
    also this is kinda random but what ecological and physical attributes do small prey specialists have? I create fictional animals in my mean time as a way to express my creativity and I want to make a small prey specialist for a Savannah area

    • @unnaturalhistorychannel
      @unnaturalhistorychannel  Год назад +34

      Typically you'd expect them to be more slender and gracile than large prey specialists. This is more apparent in the skeleton than just eyeballing them, but a smaller, more delicate head and slimmer limbs may help convey this visually.

    • @mr.rathalos1155
      @mr.rathalos1155 Год назад +5

      @@unnaturalhistorychannel thank you very much that helps me quite a bit and I am going to start brainstorming ideas quite soon

    • @Bandersnatch41
      @Bandersnatch41 Год назад +1

      Coyotes are a good place to start

    • @mr.rathalos1155
      @mr.rathalos1155 Год назад +1

      @@Bandersnatch41 thank you I just looked at coyote skeletons and a couple pictures of wolf skeletons and though the differences are kinda minute it seems to me as though wolf skeletons are a lot more robust than coyote skeletons so that’s sure to help me think of something, again thank you for suggesting a place for me to start

    • @Bandersnatch41
      @Bandersnatch41 Год назад +1

      @@mr.rathalos1155 There were also smaller species of terror birds that were less bulky than their giant cousins that hunted small game

  • @Betweentheraindrops8
    @Betweentheraindrops8 Год назад +9

    Trevorrow annoys the shit out of me because he writes about how he wants the dinosaurs to be more accurate, and how he didn’t want to make up dinosaurs...and then that’s what he ends up doing with them, based off how he makes them act.
    No one cares how feathery a dinosaur is if the movie has 8 subplots that don’t pertain to the dinosaurs, and then makes the dinosaurs act like killer robots programmed to destroy everything.
    We deserve a redo of the whole trilogy.

  • @Strawberrymilkdrink
    @Strawberrymilkdrink Год назад +41

    Honestly, I think this could have been better as a "found footage" movie about students writing a paper on the effects of the dinos set loose on the world. In a more troll hunter esque way where we can see the effects of the mashing of different forms of DNA can have on a creature. Or how such Mega fauna would affect the environments they are in. Hell have it talk about the toxic side of the exotic pet trade instead of just kinda having trillionaires getting mauled.

    • @unnaturalhistorychannel
      @unnaturalhistorychannel  Год назад +17

      A found footage dinosaur film would be awesome

    • @Bagelgeuse
      @Bagelgeuse Год назад

      I find it absolutely ridiculous that no one in Dominion brings up the dinosaurs' affect on ecosystems. They're an invasive species, and for some reason they're not only left alone but PROTECTED?
      Oh yeah, the dinosaurs should live. And while we're at it let's ban python hunting so they can decimate Florida's Everglades alongside the dinos.

    • @ctdaniels7049
      @ctdaniels7049 Год назад +3

      THAT WOULD BE SO COOL
      Maybe they end up discovering who's releasing the zillions of new dinosaur species. :P

    • @saurianfan7102
      @saurianfan7102 7 месяцев назад

      @@unnaturalhistorychannel There is a found footage dinosaur film! Exactly how good it is is... debatable, but it certainly is interesting to watch if nothing else. The basic premise is that a TV crew travels into the heart of the Congo in search of Mokole-Mbembe (which turns out to be a freshwater plesiosaur in this). Also, don't let the cover art with the stock T-Rex and Velociraptor designs fool you, most of the species on the poster for the movie don't actually appear.

  • @reallycantthinkofausername487
    @reallycantthinkofausername487 Год назад +28

    Oh boy, this movie is....
    Something?
    I did really feel the Giga reflected the Joker perfectly, truly one of the dinosaurs of all time

    • @obambagaming1467
      @obambagaming1467 Год назад +7

      The Spinosaurus and Indominus are much more "joker like" than the Giganotosaurus.
      But wanting to make a dinosaur the "joker of the dinosaurs" is very stupid and hilarous to begin with.
      Tbh, it's probably one of the stupidest things I have ever heard.
      This idea sounds more like it was made for a trash low budget dinosaur monster movie, with the only exception that they had a high budget.
      Without the CGI, certain famous actors or belonging to a popular franchise, no one would watch those movies.
      The same also goes for Star Wars.
      No one would watch those movies if it weren't for those 3 things.

    • @reallycantthinkofausername487
      @reallycantthinkofausername487 Год назад +3

      ​@@obambagaming1467 well, tbf, it is a hilarious quote and I'd be significantly less happy without its existence

    • @bobisuncanny2760
      @bobisuncanny2760 Год назад +7

      The actual antagonist should have been Therizinosaurus, in less time and talk, they better portrayed the danger of the menace. While all everyone talks about Giga for being the biggest terrestrial animal on Earth and for being the only rival of Roberta, Theri had only pure cinematography for describing him as : a herbivor, a territorial animal, a threat, being blind. If we erase Giga from the plot, and replace him for Theri, it would have made more sense and made the final fight much less cringe and anticlimatic. At least there would have been a real "JOKER" in the movie. it would have made a stylish irony where the Theri would pursue the protagonists, for "apparently no reason", which would reinforce the psychopathic and "JOKER" side of the animal. While,in the end, he was just territorial

    • @roguetheoutlander8800
      @roguetheoutlander8800 Год назад

      Sarcasm? I hope

    • @obambagaming1467
      @obambagaming1467 Год назад +4

      @@reallycantthinkofausername487 ironically I actually like the idea they had with the Giganotosaurus being the Joker.
      It's like with Morbius, it's so bad it's actually good. But only if you don't take it seriously.

  • @berserkasaurusrex4233
    @berserkasaurusrex4233 Год назад +6

    For those looking for Crichton-esque "science thrillers", I point you to an obscure book called "Fragment" by Warren Fahy. It's the closest I've found to a Crichton novel, while not just ripping off Jurassic Park like most Crichton-clones do. It's effectively a Lost-World type scenario, but instead of dinosaurs it deals with an alien environment where arthropods evolved in total isolation for 500 million years to become the dominant lifeform in their environment. It does go into a fair bit of the "science" aspect and has some honestly interesting creature designs.

  • @aphato2770
    @aphato2770 Год назад +10

    "Mario Pratt what does the scouter say about it's Genetic power level? "

  • @PaleozoicProductions
    @PaleozoicProductions Год назад +13

    I think it would be cool to see you eventually cover an "Unnatural History" spec breakdown for Jurassic World/Park to see how paleontology in their universe differs from ours, with stuff like the Prologue, Dilophosaurus, etc. Wouldn't be much but it'd be neat regardless
    Same for 65 whenever it comes out, but it has more potential for speculative evo stuff there than JP/JW

    • @Bagelgeuse
      @Bagelgeuse Год назад +10

      According to Dominion's Cretaceous prologue, I guess each time period immediately has every dinosaur that lived in it. That's why Iguanodon and T.rex are seen together, despite Iggy being twice as old as Tyrannosaurus.
      In other words, it's a kid's recreation of the Mesozoic era, albeit way less charming and more idiotic.

    • @thanujadamithangani7265
      @thanujadamithangani7265 Год назад +1

      @@Bagelgeuse What’s next? A megalodon living in the Cretaceous 65 million years ago according to Dominion’s logic?

    • @Bagelgeuse
      @Bagelgeuse Год назад +1

      @@thanujadamithangani7265 Probably.

    • @YEY0806
      @YEY0806 2 месяца назад

      ​@thanujadamithangani7265 what about Dimetrodon living alongside Triceratops

  • @wildcatxpert676
    @wildcatxpert676 Год назад +13

    Yeah, I was really hoping that we would get more of what was shown during Battle at Big Rock, but no, we timeskip to almost all of the dinosaurs in an isolated area again. The Telltale game did a much better job of addressing that dinosaurs in our world would contaminate the current ecosystem, and I would’ve loved a new Roland Tembo-esque character that was killing dinosaurs to protect modern wildlife and showcasing conflict with activists that don’t understand the danger that leaving the dinosaurs alone would bring.

  • @Lin_Nascimento
    @Lin_Nascimento Год назад +14

    Dinosaur media is best when they show dinosaurs being dinosaurs

    • @JPOG7TV
      @JPOG7TV Год назад

      Instead we got fast and furious with dinosaurs.

  • @bobisuncanny2760
    @bobisuncanny2760 Год назад +43

    Basically all dinosaurs in nutshell :
    Lystro : I'm ugly
    Dreagnouthus : i'm replacing brachiosaurus
    Blue : Everyone left me during the movie just to see me 2 min at the end
    Beta : I have the most static animatronic for the quickest dinosaur in the movie
    Pyroraptor : I can swim into a frozen lake even tho, i'm supposed to be a pyroman
    Atrociraptor : We're good dogs and that's it
    Dimetrodon : Only 30 seconds during the darkest scene in the whole movie
    Morros Intrepidus : I don't know why a little girl feed me without precaution or reason, after all i could have ripped her fingers off at the end of the movie
    Gigano : Why you bully me ?
    Quetzal : I didn't even know that I could reach the speed of an airplane
    Rexy : I had less than 4 mins of screentimes even tho i'm the most well-known dinosaur in the whole world and an icon of a great saga
    Dilo : When Owen grab me... I was like : "HARDER DADDY"
    Paras : a log and a rope can stop me
    Theri : I'm basically the best dino in the whole movie, and i was the REAL JOKER OF THIS MOVIE (seriously, imagine the Dominion logo as a theri rather than a rex, like spino in JPIII)
    Iguanodon : I didn't even know I was in the movie (he's seriously in the movie, just less than 40 sec and we only see some pixels of him)
    Carno/Allo : We're best buddies
    Mosa : I'm friendly towards whales even tho it's surely my last viable preys
    Locusts : We made a flamme tornado and one of us made the Gigano spit fire
    Sinoceratops : I thought i was in the Lion King
    The others : Forgotten
    On a serious note :
    The actual antagonist should have been Therizinosaurus, in less time and talk, they better portrayed the danger of the menace. While all everyone talks about Giga for being the biggest terrestrial animal on Earth and for being the only rival of Roberta, Theri had only pure cinematography for describing him as : a herbivor, a territorial animal, a threat, being blind. If we erase Giga from the plot, and replace him for Theri, it would have made more sense and made the final fight much less cringe and anticlimatic. At least there would have been a real "JOKER" in the movie. it would have made a stylish irony where the Theri would pursue the protagonists, for "apparently no reason", which would reinforce the psychopathic and "JOKER" side of the animal. While,in the end, he was just territorial

    • @treyrex5987
      @treyrex5987 Год назад +5

      Change Giga's to: "I'm a sad attempt at being another Indominus Rex for another one of these movies as an antagonist but do a piss poor job at it and die just as stupidly... why am I even here?" and we'll be good.
      I agree that the Theri would have been a far better antagonist than the Giga tho.

    • @Masterofhammers
      @Masterofhammers Год назад +3

      I feel like the giga should have been the one to "team" up with rexy(sort of).
      How about this?
      Rexy (being very old and rusty) has a hard time fighting theri and even though the psycho chicken is blind it relies on smell and hearing. It gains the upper hand and wounds rexy critically. But then Giga shows up and is just like he is in the movie, a normal animal doing territorial displays. Theri gets distracted and wounded with eventually calling it off and fleeing.
      Rexy does not win nor loose. And giga is unintentionally the savior of the day. It would not as epic but it would be much more believable than the theri just teaming up with rexy for no reason.

    • @aaronramos4178
      @aaronramos4178 Год назад +3

      My take on the Giga: "I was framed as the big bad dino of this movie, but I just behaved like a normal animal... and yet they killed me like if I deserved it"
      And I agree with the Theri, it was the only dinosaur that had a good introduction scene. It became my favorite dinosaur of the movie, its a shame that it was just a casual obstacle for our protagonists, instead of having a mayor role in the film.

    • @dalekrenegade2596
      @dalekrenegade2596 Год назад +4

      Imagine it look more like a real Theri, with long ragged hair, and add a bit of Skeksis to spice things up.

    • @davidostapenko2578
      @davidostapenko2578 Год назад +1

      "Theri : I'm basically the best dino in the whole movie, and i was the REAL JOKER OF THIS MOVIE (seriously, imagine the Dominion logo as a theri rather than a rex, like spino in JPIII)".
      That's... ACTUALLY A GREAT IDEA.

  • @cro-magnoncarol4017
    @cro-magnoncarol4017 Год назад +21

    JWD is the movie equivalent of that person who can talk for hours & have nothing of value be said...

  • @aitkrapee9042
    @aitkrapee9042 Год назад +12

    So sad that the trailer of the T. Rex going through a movie theatre and acting like a real animal wasn’t the theme of the movie, just big scary dinosaurs eating things

    • @troythedeconstructionist1382
      @troythedeconstructionist1382 Год назад +2

      Yeah, man. I was really holding my ducking breath for the movie industry to finally tackle tyrannosaurs and their relationship to drive in theatres. Shake my ass.... 😔

    • @kade-qt1zu
      @kade-qt1zu Год назад

      ​@@troythedeconstructionist1382 Hol up

    • @troythedeconstructionist1382
      @troythedeconstructionist1382 Год назад

      @@kade-qt1zu It's a real ducking problem 😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠

  • @matthewmitchell5636
    @matthewmitchell5636 Год назад +35

    what especially boggles the mind is how someone made the conscious decision to write in the Locust plot that takes up half the film in order to have some sort of talking point about irresponsible Genetic Engineering and Invasive Species when the entire last film was LITERALLY TO SET UP INGEN'S DINOSAURS BEING INVASIVE SPECIES

    • @mememachine6022
      @mememachine6022 Год назад +3

      But but they are just like the little clone girl! Introducing dinosaurs into our ecosystems doesnt do anything they just big cows and little guys!

    • @ctdaniels7049
      @ctdaniels7049 Год назад +2

      @@mememachine6022 Meanwhile every park ranger has to be replaced by a Navy Seal team just to keep carnotaurs from cracking open an aluminum Streamline like a breakfast burrito.

  • @Bandersnatch41
    @Bandersnatch41 Год назад +6

    There's a Manga that just came out called Dinosaur Sanctuary. Basically Jurassic park if all the Dinosaurs actually behaved like real animals with accurate appearances and behaviors and the speculative aspects are plausible on how these animals would actually live.

    • @Bagelgeuse
      @Bagelgeuse Год назад

      I managed to read the first issue online, and I absolutely love it.

    • @Bandersnatch41
      @Bandersnatch41 Год назад

      @@Bagelgeuse It's so refreshing to actually see something where they aren't mindless monsters that attack everything that moves on sight.

    • @kade-qt1zu
      @kade-qt1zu Год назад

      ​@@Bagelgeuse Where can I find it?

    • @Bagelgeuse
      @Bagelgeuse Год назад

      @@kade-qt1zu I looked it up online and found a website with it. I can't remember the name unfortunately.

    • @beastmaster0934
      @beastmaster0934 Год назад

      @@Bagelgeuse
      Do you have the link for it?

  • @WildWorld81
    @WildWorld81 Год назад +44

    I’m frankly grateful that Prehistoric Planet aired before the JWD theatrical release. I feel it (rightfully) took the wind out of JWD’s sails
    Essentially, JWD is hot garbage and I’d recommend Prehistoric Planet well before JWD if people ask what paleomedia to watch from 2022
    Edit: JWD also angers me because it forced me to say something positive about JWFK (at least that movie, was, Y’know, a MOVIE, not some amalgamation of various plotlines stitched together)
    Edit: We did it boys… Prehistoric Planet 2 is now an incoming reality

    • @dr.archaeopteryx5512
      @dr.archaeopteryx5512 Год назад +5

      JWFK has the decency to also be funny bad instead of just somewhere between annoyingly bad and insultingly bad

  • @rhedosaurus2251
    @rhedosaurus2251 Год назад +11

    While I agree that Colin Trevorrow was not a good choice, shouldn't you place most of the blame for Universal instead? I mean, I find it hard to believe that a rookie director can be given so much power on billion dollar franchise. Not only that, but even if this was the case, the fault would still lay with Universal Studios for not properly caring about the franchise in the years after TLW...Which includes letting Trevorrow work on this in the first place.

  • @CrissBluefox
    @CrissBluefox Год назад +6

    Great video and thanks for answering my question in your Q&A, I felt it was an important one to ask considering how much of an impact humans have on wildlife, from crashing the numbers of scavengers, to the ecological degradation with the loss of certain species like Monoblos to the tragedies wrought through no fault of the animal when over confident hunters fail ie Bloodbath. Plus I found it interesting in Worldborne how the Guild and researchers are all about understanding nature instead of destroying it while allowing arena quests where you kill monsters in a pen. Or after you crippled the monster after capture and they release said creature back to the wild to thier doom.

  • @alang.bandala8863
    @alang.bandala8863 Год назад +5

    Some time ago I read a book called Neanderthal. It was a good adventure book, but I feel like it fails in the TechoThriller sense, it ends up being just a copy of HG Wells' Time Machine with a Starship Troopers-like comment of "A guerrilla society doesn't last long" I feel like that novel is part of the trend of people wanting to imitate Michael Crichton in the same way that they imitated Stephen King, Breat Easton Ellis or Tolkien

  • @sentinelstorm487
    @sentinelstorm487 Год назад +4

    Thank you for this video essay. As always you have a very thought out and well articulated perspective that I never tire of hearing. This video really helped me figure out what I found wrong with Dominion. So many of the other video essayists out there (from the film side of RUclips mostly) we’re bashing this movie and I reflexively resisted them while my lack of satisfaction for the film brewed in my subconscious.
    I was very focused on defending the film for what it ‘did right’ that people were attacking it for, like daring to have something that wasn’t dinosaurs be a big issue and criticizing it for having dinosaurs off the islands. I blanket rejected most criticisms of the film because I didn’t want to participate in hating something, especially a franchise I love, just to hate it. Especially when it seemed they were attacking it over themes that were present in the first novel about how ecologically destructive genetic power can be and how you cannot control nature to the point the novel started with dinosaurs already off the island. But you’ve elucidated the emptiness I felt walking out of the theatre that day, how the ending totally tossed out all the themes of the dangers of invasive species and sidestepped all the scientific quandaries we’ve experienced with animals over the past 20 years as you laid out in your video.
    You are absolutely right that this movie values flash over science, substance, and the core of what made the original novel so engaging. I was just too blinded by my exhaustion with popular media “criticism” to properly dissect my own feelings about the film. Thanks again, and keep up the great work!

  • @bumpb7753
    @bumpb7753 Год назад +4

    Could've sworn I had seen that Quetzal model somewhere before...

  • @theoneandonlymichaelmccormick
    @theoneandonlymichaelmccormick Год назад +7

    In terms of demonstrating Trevorrow’s ankle-deep conception of what intelligence is, there isn’t a movie he’s made that can compare to The Book of Henry.

    • @JPOG7TV
      @JPOG7TV Год назад +2

      It still amazes me that he was only brought to work on this franchise because of one short film he made that happened to be good. Everything else he made was shit

  • @gabbrooh9126
    @gabbrooh9126 Год назад +10

    I think Dominion should have focused on how the dinos affect the economy, everyday human life and the wild life. Despite the title, the theme should have been coexistence with humans and dinosuars, with some being used as pets (small ones at least), some dinos can coexist with existing species like bison and a ceratopsian, and even expand the malta black market.

    • @dozierworld4350
      @dozierworld4350 27 дней назад

      At this point parentheses on the wild life because clearly they are doing a good job at the coexist thing with no expectation

  • @thatnickwalker
    @thatnickwalker Год назад +5

    beyond the terrible plot and dialogue, i got so so so mad in the theatre when they said "oh the dinosaurs here are accurate" and they were all incorrect. imagine how they could have just done a little flexing making accurate dinosaurs no matter how much the audience may dislike them

    • @Bagelgeuse
      @Bagelgeuse Год назад +4

      Agreed. It's ironic how Ramsey says they're genetically pure, yet they still resemble the [insert Dr. Wu's rant from JW1] dinosaurs. Was it too hard to give the Pyroraptor a normal face? Why does the Giganotosaurus, a progenitor of the Indominus rex, look even more monstrous? Was it too hard to use TLW PS1's or Warpath's Giganotosaurus?

  • @davidegaruti2582
    @davidegaruti2582 Год назад +2

    16:00 it's even funnier because : giganotosaurus was likely an extra large prey specialist ,
    So human sized preys may have fallen out of it's menu straight up ,
    One may even speculate that we would register as annoyances rather than preys ...

  • @howdyimhowdy
    @howdyimhowdy Год назад +6

    "why does the villains want more if he's already a billionare" don't know but its sure not stoping real companies like nestle from always wanting more

    • @obambagaming1467
      @obambagaming1467 Год назад +2

      That's the thing with greed. Wanting even more, even if you could never spend all that money.
      So its actually a real thing.
      I just don't like it when such characters in movies/shows are just plain one sided "bad rich guys". It just makes them boring.
      This is a problem I already have with this series.
      In JW we had one sided "evil military guy" and "evil mad scientist guy".
      In Fallen Kingdom we had "evil rich people" and "evil trophy hunter".
      Yes we also had a trophy hunter in Lost World but he actually wasn't a bad guy. He was a morally grey character. This made him much better.

    • @spinosaurusstriker
      @spinosaurusstriker Год назад

      Exept thats not how it works, these things happen in real life not just because haha im eeevil business man! Like in the jw movies.

    • @beastmaster0934
      @beastmaster0934 Год назад +1

      @@spinosaurusstriker
      You’re right.
      It’s because greedy bastards just want more and more and more, and can’t understand the concept of the word “enough”.

  • @connortripp99
    @connortripp99 Год назад +3

    11:48 Ah yes, my favorite pterosaur species.

  • @morcinus6449
    @morcinus6449 Год назад +6

    Movie could've been saved if Giganotosaurus had clown makeup on and said "society".

    • @kade-qt1zu
      @kade-qt1zu Год назад +3

      Rexy, don't you see? We live in a society.

    • @obambagaming1467
      @obambagaming1467 Год назад +3

      @@kade-qt1zu and then it blows up a hospital.
      Then Batman Rexy has to stop him together with his sidekick Therizino Robin.

    • @obambagaming1467
      @obambagaming1467 Год назад +3

      Tbh, if the movie was like that, I would actually watch it.

  • @Dylan-Hooton
    @Dylan-Hooton 8 месяцев назад +2

    Will you do a review on the 65 film soon?

  • @Hecuba107
    @Hecuba107 3 месяца назад +1

    14:04 What if instead of locusts, Biosyn had cloned prehistoric bees specifically to grow their crops more efficiently because of pollination. However, it would be revealed that the bees had genes that not only made them larger in size, but also more aggressive, leading to a genuine threat to both the humans and dinosaurs. To give more suggestions, what if they crossbreed with other bees? More importantly, have it be in a different show/ movie separate from a new plot for a Dominion rewrite.

  • @cjbroskin1327
    @cjbroskin1327 Год назад +7

    It's always a pleasure hearing you talk about JP, btw i'm curious of what you think of the Spinosaurus in JP3, it's not the best in terms of animal behaviour considering it literally follows the group all over the island for no real reason. But i'd be interested to know if there's a way to reasonably explain its vitriol towards humans other than just being territorial or if such an animal could disrupt an ecosystem much like Deviljho.

    • @kade-qt1zu
      @kade-qt1zu Год назад +5

      The only possible explanations I honestly have for the Spinosaurus acting so aggressive towards humans is that it simply just hates them due to the damage they caused to him (when they hit him with a plane).

    • @beastmaster0934
      @beastmaster0934 Год назад +1

      @@kade-qt1zu
      That’s what I always assumed was the reason he hated them.
      I mean, wouldn’t you hate the dumb bastards who hit you with a PLANE!?

    • @kade-qt1zu
      @kade-qt1zu Год назад +2

      @Plain Water It may not be accurate, but goddamn it was awesome, if not a bit too OP.

    • @Masterofhammers
      @Masterofhammers Год назад

      Well alot of people assume that the Spino holds a grudge against humans for hurting him. And may be more intelligent than we think. Of course it's not a raptor but I could believe it. I mean it literally stopped what it was doing and just wanted revenge.

    • @logandelacruz2152
      @logandelacruz2152 Год назад

      He actually did talk about Deviljo and explains that the species is a waning leftover from the past, whose regular prey isn’t around as much anymore.

  • @BrontoSmilodon1
    @BrontoSmilodon1 Год назад +2

    I think what should have happened with this movie was to lean a bit more with the exodus connections. The Locust seemed to be one of the plagues and somehow should have found ways to incorporate the other plagues.

  • @samuelrodriguez9801
    @samuelrodriguez9801 Год назад +8

    What about the ending where it spouted nonsense about "coexistence" even though the franchise up until that point showed that coexistence was practically impossible?!

    • @Bagelgeuse
      @Bagelgeuse Год назад +4

      Oh my god, the ending was terrible. 5 movies spent warning us that escaped dinosaurs are dangerous, and the Dominion comes along and now they're perfectly fine? Bullshit.

    • @matteomastrodomenico1231
      @matteomastrodomenico1231 Год назад

      I think most people don't get the ending: it's not about coexisting with dinosaurs, but with nature.

    • @Bagelgeuse
      @Bagelgeuse Год назад +1

      @@matteomastrodomenico1231 Then what's the point of having dinosaurs? If the ending is telling us to coexist with nature, then you could make the same movie with modern animals and nothing would change.

    • @matteomastrodomenico1231
      @matteomastrodomenico1231 Год назад

      @@Bagelgeuse That's easy: that's not the actual message of the movie. The movie warns about science being used for greed and that bit at the end is just shoehorned to give a conclusion.

    • @Bagelgeuse
      @Bagelgeuse Год назад +1

      @@matteomastrodomenico1231 So, basically the last 5 movies, but with locusts and dinosaurs in the background. Got it.

  • @kennethsatria6607
    @kennethsatria6607 Год назад +4

    I feel like its time for other stories to test the boundaries, JP had its time and JW squandered its final chance, have more films like 65, Primeval or Primal just expand the gold standard for prehistoric entertainment outside of documentaries and JP if they aren't gonna do anything with the concepts.

  • @MourningCoffeeMusic
    @MourningCoffeeMusic Год назад +6

    I found the choking of the Dilo scene both cartoonishly hilarious and uncomfortably disrespectful. The cringe JP3 raptor saying “Alan” is better and I hate that scene.

    • @kade-qt1zu
      @kade-qt1zu Год назад +1

      One of my favorite things to think about is Owen trying to pull the same stunt on a scientifically accurate Dilophosaurus.

    • @treyrex5987
      @treyrex5987 Год назад +1

      How was that JP3 scene... cringe?

    • @obambagaming1467
      @obambagaming1467 Год назад +2

      The JP 3 raptor "Alan" scene is truly one of the scenes of all time

    • @spinosaurusstriker
      @spinosaurusstriker Год назад

      ​@@treyrex5987 i mean it was kinda ridiculous, like... A dromeosaur appearing and talking hehe

    • @treyrex5987
      @treyrex5987 Год назад +1

      @@spinosaurusstriker That's true, yeah but then again... it was a dream sequence.

  • @macmurfy2jka
    @macmurfy2jka Год назад +3

    Weight the film wasn’t a satirical meta comedy about the incompetence of the leaders often found at the top of large organizations, especially ones that just buy and merger their way into power?
    Could have fooled me. I was laughing my ass of the whole film.

  • @CakedUpDumptruck
    @CakedUpDumptruck 5 месяцев назад

    17:28
    “The director, Roger Christian, has learned from better films that directors sometimes tilt their cameras, but he has not learned why.”
    - Roger Ebert, on Battlefield: Earth

  • @Castigar48
    @Castigar48 Год назад +2

    Man I can't wait for 65. Kyle Ren shooting scary @ss dinosaurs. God I hope it's good

  • @hiattgrey9161
    @hiattgrey9161 11 месяцев назад +1

    "65 does look like crap". You read my mind.

  • @tazzreviews1578
    @tazzreviews1578 Год назад +2

    Here’s my question… why didn’t Wu just use CRISPR to edit the locust genes? He didn’t need Maisie.

  • @Krona-fb4dn
    @Krona-fb4dn Год назад +5

    Oh shit first. This'll be good, I know it.
    I think the only positive I can actually say about my thoughts on this film is that the "scientifically accurate" giga was ugly.
    If it was a genuinely beautiful attempt to represent carcharodontosaurid dinosaurs, then I'd genuinely feel upset at its death. Since it was so calm in comparison to past megatheropods in the JP franchise.
    At least the joker giga meme was funny for awhile, and the first good choice Colin made with this franchise was posting a video of him saying "Everyone should go watch Prehistoric Planet".
    Biggest hope I have is that the adaptations of the Primitive War franchise go well, both novels set in the Cold War with dinosaurs coming back was a very fun read and the sequel pulls off the "dinosaurs are a global threat" MUCH better than Jurassic World ever did. Where utahraptors come back and bring back a dromaeosaur disease that quickly jumped to birds with extremely lethal results, and one utahraptor is singled out to be carrying a strain that can infect and kill humans.
    Granted I doubt a disease can adapt that quickly and the utahraptors are intelligent beyond their true capabilities and the author does admit this. Though there are more elements I won't spoil for the story that make it more interesting than Jurassic World.

    • @kade-qt1zu
      @kade-qt1zu Год назад +2

      I would rather watch a Primitive War movie over any kind of modern Jurassic media.

    • @Krona-fb4dn
      @Krona-fb4dn Год назад +1

      @@kade-qt1zu Thankfully they are making one! There is an adaptation of the 1st book by Luke Sparke. Although its likely to be awhile from now.

    • @kade-qt1zu
      @kade-qt1zu Год назад +2

      ​​@@Krona-fb4dn Whoo, yeah baby! That's what I've been waiting for, that's what it's all about!

    • @dozierworld4350
      @dozierworld4350 18 дней назад

      Deino... I mean velociraptors, not utahraptors

  • @purplehaze2358
    @purplehaze2358 Год назад +3

    "Not necessarily an alien, but potential pathogens or organisms."
    I mean.. if it's a living thing, and it comes from space, it's an alien so far as I'm concerned.

    • @unnaturalhistorychannel
      @unnaturalhistorychannel  Год назад +2

      You know what tf I meant

    • @Bagelgeuse
      @Bagelgeuse Год назад +1

      Now you're just being nitpicky. I doubt the first thing anyone thinks of when they hear the word "alien" is a pathogen.

  • @flightlesslord2688
    @flightlesslord2688 Год назад +3

    sure, its uses crispr-type science (like barely), but it aint thrilling.
    I liked Grant and Ellie though. They were their characters... so like that was good. Not really something to write home about, but eh, could've been worse in that regard. But yeah, Grant's my favourite character, but honestly I'd rather watch JP3 that this if I wanted my favourite fictional palaeontologist content.
    Rest of the movie poop. Genuinely, it is amazing how the kids show with robots and full of plot convenience is imo the best canonical thing to come from the Jurassic World franchice. Wild.

    • @kade-qt1zu
      @kade-qt1zu Год назад +1

      Both the show and the movies give me a headache. It's just that the show through some dark magic gives me less of a headache.

    • @flightlesslord2688
      @flightlesslord2688 Год назад +1

      @@kade-qt1zu lol yeah. I'm genuinely looking forward to what comes next with it, unlike the movies

    • @kade-qt1zu
      @kade-qt1zu Год назад +2

      ​@@flightlesslord2688 I'm not. Do you know any other dinosaur media I can enjoy that's not just documentaries or Dinosauria?

    • @flightlesslord2688
      @flightlesslord2688 Год назад +1

      @@kade-qt1zu to each there own, and Primeval was pretty good in its day, even the later seasons have their moments (even if the story/characters overall are weaker). Beyond that, there aint much

  • @purplehaze2358
    @purplehaze2358 Год назад +2

    I'm gonna level with you; prior to watching this video, I didn't even know what a science thriller even was.

  • @thekingofdinos8518
    @thekingofdinos8518 Год назад +2

    At this point I'm shocked Colin Trevorrow is allowed to direct movies. Those quotes make him sound like a pretentious thirteen year old bragging about how deep his cringy fanfics are. Granted, I've only seen JW and JWD so he might be a good director outside of these movies; I'd love for someone to tell me if he has any good ones. But for now, all I can say is that I'm immensely happy that he's out of this once good franchise, and that this once good franchise is gone for a while.

  • @quark4016
    @quark4016 Год назад +1

    Ooh a discussion on Jurassic World Dominon! This'll be interesting...

  • @mikecampbell7950
    @mikecampbell7950 Год назад +5

    I enjoyed the movie, but I wish that the plot dealt with dinosaurs being invasive species

    • @kade-qt1zu
      @kade-qt1zu Год назад +1

      But that would make people think, which the movie doesn't want.

    • @matteomastrodomenico1231
      @matteomastrodomenico1231 Год назад

      @@kade-qt1zu Not really, it just would have been more convoluted and boring.

    • @Bagelgeuse
      @Bagelgeuse Год назад

      ​@@matteomastrodomenico1231How would that be convoluted? Invasive species are species introduced to a habitat in which they don't belong, often with negative effects on the ecosystem. This time, the invasive species are dinosaurs. It's that simple. As for it being boring, just remove the characters' plot armor. It's what made Dominion so boring in the first place.

    • @matteomastrodomenico1231
      @matteomastrodomenico1231 Год назад

      @@Bagelgeuse Yes, but it would have just been a series of scenes of people catching dinosaurs. The idea of dinosaurs living in the modern world isn't as scary when we have the means to deal with them.
      The locusts are better as a threat because you can't trap a whole swarm.

  • @Voc_spooksauce
    @Voc_spooksauce Год назад +3

    I have no clue how they managed to make a series like Juras-sick Park from a cool and sometimes even spooky movie series into an empty, copy and paste being less interesting each time. Like, they have all the possible dinos and creatures from similar times to use and they never do anything with it.
    It's so obviously lazy and pointless, while also making no sense cus are they even getting money from these new movies?

  • @mudshrooze
    @mudshrooze Год назад +1

    My Dad and I always enjoy big monster movies and the transformer movies. It's one way we bond in my adult years. Movies with giant beings fighting each other. Like Pacific rim. The story doesnt matter usually. But when my Dad and I went to this film we were both literally falling asleep and when it was over we both thought it was a boring and poorly written movie. It really dissapointed.

  • @LBTElectricDinoOnline
    @LBTElectricDinoOnline Год назад +2

    Great video analysis explaining everything wrong with Jurassic World Dominion and I pretty much agree with you on this.
    Prehistoric Planet, The Dino King Movies and Camp Cretaceous are way better than Jurassic World Dominion

  • @The_PokeSaurus
    @The_PokeSaurus Год назад +6

    I agree with everything you said, but I also admit I still enjoyed Dominion, as shlocky and shallow as it was. But it did kinda do some stuff like Blood Sport in the film, but not enough.
    Also, I really thought it was a missed opportunity to do a prehistoric animal version of Fatal Attractions.

    • @johncaulfield8935
      @johncaulfield8935 Год назад

      It’s bad. Don’t kid yourself

    • @The_PokeSaurus
      @The_PokeSaurus Год назад +1

      @@johncaulfield8935 Can I still watch it and enjoy it?

    • @johncaulfield8935
      @johncaulfield8935 Год назад +1

      @@The_PokeSaurus Sure, but it just proves you have no taste

    • @The_PokeSaurus
      @The_PokeSaurus Год назад +1

      @@johncaulfield8935 Go to hell asshole. I'd rather have no taste than be that guy who gaslights people for liking stuff.

    • @The_PokeSaurus
      @The_PokeSaurus Год назад +1

      @@johncaulfield8935 Wait, why did you tell me to not Kid Myself? I admitted it was bad!

  • @Sunaki1000
    @Sunaki1000 Год назад +2

    The third Movie gets a lot of hate, but it did a lot of Stuff right. It tries to establish a intimite emotional Core whit the Family reuniting, and it continued some Ideas about Dinosaur behavior, even if it was a bit sloppy. The T-Rex Pee repelling smaller Dinosaurs, and the Ceratosaur not imideatly attacking, just staring, and Proto Feathers on the Raptors, that was all nice.
    Some Producers think a Movie is just a Product, something what isnt good or bad, it is eighter trending or not.
    If JW fails, its because the Audience arent in the mood for Dinosaurs, not because of Quality. Sadly.

  • @sixteenthtower6919
    @sixteenthtower6919 Год назад +7

    Wait, you're saying the raptors who can keep pace with a motorbike, a car, and a plane for minutes at a time aren't scientifically accurate?

    • @obambagaming1467
      @obambagaming1467 Год назад +3

      Or a pteranodon lifting a baby triceratops or human...

    • @sixteenthtower6919
      @sixteenthtower6919 Год назад +6

      @@Rajastega I think part of what the video is saying is that it's hard to take a scientific thriller seriously when the science is constantly, glaringly wrong, which was basically all I could think about during that portion of the movie.

    • @rac1equalsbestgame853
      @rac1equalsbestgame853 Год назад +3

      @@sixteenthtower6919 The most important part is the movie/book taking it's own science seriously
      I know video game but look at MH. While it isn't perfect it takes it's ecology and and other aspects around it seriously in a way you can suspend your disbelief about Rathalos having wings that are too small for it to fly in our gravity.
      JWD doesn't do that

    • @spinosaurusstriker
      @spinosaurusstriker Год назад +1

      The problem is not unrealistic things hapoening on a fictional movie, the problem is the movie not taking it seriously.

  • @christiancinnabars1402
    @christiancinnabars1402 Год назад +5

    My hope of the Jurassic franchise returning to its science-based roots died (or rather, fully died - it was already taking some big hits beforehand) when they released the prologue for Dominion. At least in the modern era, they could hide behind frog DNA and purposeful genetic tampering to handwave any inaccuracies to actual dinosaurs. But when you have a T. rex fight a Giganotosaurus 65 million years ago, you make it _full clear_ that accuracy is not in the slightest a priority for the movie.

  • @bradymcglamory1263
    @bradymcglamory1263 Год назад +1

    This is unrelated to the video but, have you considered covering the various animals from the Star Wars franchise?

    • @kade-qt1zu
      @kade-qt1zu Год назад

      He hasn't. But Curious Archive did a video on Tatootine. You should check out his channel, it's really good.

  • @jonywilliams9522
    @jonywilliams9522 Год назад +1

    Off the top of my head I can think of a better Jurassic park movie, just make it a squid/hunger game esc movie where it's a group of super rice tycoons being a-holes. It would even explain super aggressive dinos, as mister oil tycoon wanted a super Killing monster that can shoot spikes and he threw 30B to make it happen

  • @austinames9340
    @austinames9340 Год назад +6

    To say this was pure catharsis is an understatement. I mirror the hope that we'll get genuinely good dinosaur media again after Prehistoric Planet and Primal (ending notwithstanding) proved it can be done. One question I have for you is what would you say is the best of Crichton's novels and which one was the weakest?

    • @JurassicLion2049
      @JurassicLion2049 Год назад

      Good paleo media is always being made and Dominion is not a bad addition to them. In 2023 alone we’re getting three new documentaries, one narrated by Stephen Fry and another by Nigel Marvin himself.

    • @austinames9340
      @austinames9340 Год назад +4

      Dominion was asinine. As for the documentaries, the Stephen Fry one is hot garbage and I’m cautiously optimistic about the Nigel marven one.

    • @spinosaurusstriker
      @spinosaurusstriker Год назад +2

      ​@@JurassicLion2049 dominion is less than garbage wdym

    • @beastmaster0934
      @beastmaster0934 Год назад +2

      We might get that in Forgotten Bloodlines: Agate.
      A big documentary finally focusing on the Miocene (the most underrated and underused epoch of the Cenozoic, where ancient lineages and modern ones coexist)

    • @Bagelgeuse
      @Bagelgeuse Год назад +1

      ​@@JurassicLion2049The Stephen Fry one is...
      Let's Just say Jurassic Fight Club may lose its crown as the worst dinosaur documentary.

  • @antoniosipalo1671
    @antoniosipalo1671 Год назад +1

    Will you be doing a video analyzing the monsterverse and how it handled skull Island along with Hollow earth.

    • @Bagelgeuse
      @Bagelgeuse Год назад

      Eh, there's no point since Monsterverse Skull Island is just a "100 Ways to Die" island.

  • @samwill7259
    @samwill7259 Год назад +1

    Have we ever seen UHC Upset before?
    I don't think I've seen it before
    And no offense, his voice and tone makes it really funny
    He sounds like my disappointed biology teacher in all the best ways.

  • @MrEmilable
    @MrEmilable 2 месяца назад

    Quick Reminder locust didn´t Actually Evolve until the Paleocene

  • @hagfish4998
    @hagfish4998 Год назад +1

    If there was one scene from any of the world films that's unironically worth praising, what would it be?

  • @brockschannel3927
    @brockschannel3927 Год назад +2

    One thing I really didn't like about Dominion was making Allen and Ellie a couple again. It felt very forced and was added in just to give the finger to jp3. I actually didn't mind having them split up but remain good friends,it's something we don't see often in media or real life.

    • @Bagelgeuse
      @Bagelgeuse Год назад +1

      Alan was honestly treated terribly in Dominion. His reintroduction to the franchise after 21 years is him being disrespected for his seemingly obsolete career, and then he gets dragged into an adventure in which he's useless.

    • @brockschannel3927
      @brockschannel3927 Год назад +1

      @@Bagelgeuse yeah.

  • @thedarkmasterthedarkmaster
    @thedarkmasterthedarkmaster Год назад +3

    My biggest question is how the Dimetrodon was resurrected.

    • @rhedosaurus2251
      @rhedosaurus2251 Год назад +2

      Don't forget the Mosasaurus.

    • @Bagelgeuse
      @Bagelgeuse Год назад +1

      Don't ask questions, just consume the product.
      I don't know how Biosyn cloned them though.

    • @Bagelgeuse
      @Bagelgeuse Год назад

      ​@@rhedosaurus2251There is an in-universe explanation for the mosasaur being cloned. Something to do with a prototype iron analyser Wu used on a mosasaur fossil.

  • @Cottonmouth255
    @Cottonmouth255 Год назад +2

    UHC shitting on Jurassic World again? A surprise to be sure, but a welcome one!

  • @praetorianrex5571
    @praetorianrex5571 Год назад +1

    UHC, what are your thoughts on "principles vs pragmatism"?

  • @hyd3n376
    @hyd3n376 Год назад +5

    6:13 wadiyatalkinabeet
    I've never hated a movie more than Jurassic world. It's pretty much everything wrong with modern films and how the public sees dinosaurs. Stan Winston must've rolled in his grave back in 2015 when Jurassic World and Terminator Genisys came out

  • @thedappercritter6644
    @thedappercritter6644 Год назад +2

    I couldn't agree more with how everything in the video. Everything that comes out of Trevorrow's mouth and the comments about how he talks out his ass are one of my worst fears as a creative: hyping something offensively mediocre as something great and seeing nothing wrong with it.
    Also I hope Primal and Prehistoric Planet set the tone instead of 65 (cripes I hate that title)

  • @i.m.evilhomer5084
    @i.m.evilhomer5084 Год назад +5

    The film couldn't make it's mind if it wanted to be Jason Bourne with dinosaurs or a sci-fi horror film with moral/ethical discourse.
    Personally, I would've done something simple, such as have the dinosaurs on the mainland & becoming invasive species, with all the trappings entail with having dangerous mutant animals running a muck. Rather than dinosaurs somehow being both monsters & animals that can co-exist with animals millions of years apart. Cause if you know what happens when a foreign species is introduced to a different environment, nothing good comes from it. See the effects introduced species have in places like Florida or Australia for example.

  • @roguetheoutlander8800
    @roguetheoutlander8800 Год назад +1

    That "Joker of the franchise" would be more funny meme, if people didnt took it seriously and then apologize for it: "but he's Joker of this franchise, he sure did a bunch of bad things off-screen"

  • @hunde01
    @hunde01 Год назад +2

    How i felt 20 minutes into Dominion:
    "- Game over man, GAME OVER!"

  • @enocescalona
    @enocescalona Год назад +1

    oh god, "are they really science thrillers if they have no real world science" I know it is unrelated, but it reminded me of something that happened a few days ago.
    i remember a Hard Science Fiction server whose people always pushed me with this logic. Always forcing me to use a 100% real science even when i just wanted some slight ideas and i'll see what i can do. I felt i was free to seek inspiration and ask experts, but if it didn't fit with the idea, i could eschew it if i needed to. People literally said i was "lying" to people because i didn't have pedantic approach to science, i just wanted ideas, not guidelines. Not do a "scientific paper" as i think you said.
    There was even a stalker freak who harassed people there for not following the dogma. He harassed me and a friend. Honestly, that server was a cult and i think it illustrated the dangers of people who are REALLY sticklers and control freaks. Even for *fictional* writing styles.
    A guy even went as far as implying that Hard Science Fiction is the *only* type of SF: "what's the point of being on this server if what you are doing has nothing to with science fiction" not "nothing to do with science" but science *fiction.* So yeah, great video, it gave me Vietnam Flashbacks, lmao.

    • @victory8928
      @victory8928 Год назад +2

      I really feel ya there, they be a bunch of gatekeepers that community. Hope ya find your answers though

    • @enocescalona
      @enocescalona Год назад +1

      @@victory8928 i guess i can just look it up myself instead of going asking large groups of people. they legit have no sense of suspension of disbelief. Everything has to be grounded in RL physics, if not, they'd whine about it.

  • @themeekwarrior
    @themeekwarrior Год назад

    I just have to say the charcuterie board comment made my jaw drop, lol.
    I saw the first Jurassic World and that was enough for me. To hear the director has left the scene is kindof a relief. I was entertained by his first movie but it wasn't Jurassic Park -- it wasn't trying to bring dinosaurs to life as much as it was trying to make dinosaur-themed drama, and it wasn't profound in any sense to me. In fact I barely remember anything other than the raptor scene, the Indominus escape, and the way in which Rexy and Blue "worked together" against Indominus who finally got eaten by Mosasaurus (what)

  • @Daisythepage
    @Daisythepage Год назад

    There’s a scene where somone mentions a green button and my freind who’s colorblind to green goes ‘OF COURSE THE BUTTON HAD TO BE GREEN’ it was very fun to watch, though they made me promise not to keep pointing out inaccuracies in the theater.
    Though I did mention a couple things, I think I just enjoyed being with my freinds tbh

  • @elijahcafazzo-joyette8226
    @elijahcafazzo-joyette8226 Год назад +2

    11:49 Wow! Thats some crazy art. Is that Kamen Rider Moaten’s work? Tea Common Shark? It almost looks like it could have come from a movie haha. But that would be crazy, right? There hasn’t even been rumours of a Monster Hunter movie. Might be cool if someone made one though. Maybe when James Cameron is done with Avatar he could give it a go.
    On a more serious note, the movie felt completely unfinished. What was with the detail of Dodgson being so scatter-brained and odd? What was even the point of Ramsay’s character, just to stick it to Dodgson at the end with some cheesy line?
    The movie had too many plot threads that never really wrapped up in a satisfactory way, and so even ignoring its very shallow comprehension of its genre and source material, it fails to even justify itself as a basic point A-to-B plot. Even the first few Transformers films can’t boast being that bad.

    • @rylanbrewer3320
      @rylanbrewer3320 Год назад

      Sadly monster Hunter does have a live action movie and it’s terrible

    • @beastmaster0934
      @beastmaster0934 Год назад

      @@rylanbrewer3320
      Yup, just as terrible as Dominion.

  • @Don-ds3dy
    @Don-ds3dy 7 месяцев назад

    My little brother and mother have incredibly low standards for movies and even they thought the last two movies were mind numbingly dumb and didn't make any sense.

  • @obambagaming1467
    @obambagaming1467 Год назад +1

    In the next JW movie the dinosaurs will have Dragon Ball superpowers and their strength is determined by their "Genetic Power Level"

  • @colinbaldwin313
    @colinbaldwin313 Год назад

    If you're interested, I'd like to recommend a good science thriller that too few people know about: 2013's Invasive Species, by Joseph Wallace. It's so obscure that neither the book nor the author even has a Wikipedia article. Without going into details, it concerns the threat to humanity posed by a species of large, deadly parasitic wasp. I found it to be a chilling, well-told end-of-the-world tale with some really good human characters and a neat political allegory to boot. Its premise is easily plausible enough to be considered a science thriller.

  • @NathanCassidy721
    @NathanCassidy721 Год назад +1

    My two cents with science fiction is one should follow the science enough to make the world convincing.
    While entertainment should come first, you are guaranteed to get a better result if you actually base it off real information. A good example of this is The Martian which follows actual science and engineering practices NASA uses. And even if it became outdated, people do appreciate the effort to do research on a topic.
    The problem with modern cinema is they don’t write science fiction at all because they are all dumbasses who don’t read. Robert Meyer Burnett recently summed up how many writers in Hollywood do not read classic books like I, Robot, DUNE, or The Time Machine that would force them to think about bigger ideas beyond themselves. Their only point of reference is other movies they watched and Twitter arguments and it shows that they shouldn’t be trusted with tying their own shoes, nevermind running a massive IP like Jurassic Park.

  • @georgecisneros5281
    @georgecisneros5281 Год назад

    I must admit, I’d almost like to see them dive into that Bond/Bourne style IF it’s one of the raptors who takes the place of Bond/Bourne, and partakes in various clandestine missions or infiltration scenarios.😂🤣

  • @oygemprime3864
    @oygemprime3864 Год назад +1

    ... There's no way 11:49 is actually a scene from the film, right? That's a Rathalos.

  • @taliesincoleman6569
    @taliesincoleman6569 Год назад +1

    5:50 ok fair point there... but perhaps merely a side point.
    dominion might not be strictly a "science thriller" in THAT strict sense but it IS still very much an interesting sci fi world for me.
    8:54
    ok... i'll give you that... begrudgingly.

  • @Exquailibur
    @Exquailibur Год назад +3

    Why cant the dinosaurs be actually cool like in the original Jurassic Park where they were reasonably accurate for the time. If I designed a dinosaur show I would nerd out over a possible behavior and make them seem like actual animals rather than movie monsters, I would embellish it a little but keep it within a somewhat plausible realm. My favorite dinosaur related anything in recent memory is Primal, its just such a sexy show.

  • @Level_1_Frog
    @Level_1_Frog Год назад +1

    I just pretend that there's only one Jurassic Park film, and that makes me feel better.

  • @christosgiannopoulos828
    @christosgiannopoulos828 Год назад +1

    Why would you do that to yourself though ? I haven't watched the last two jurassic world movies and I don't intent to. Because I know what they're about and that I won't like them

  • @tiktaalik7160
    @tiktaalik7160 Год назад +1

    I really hate the way the animals are treated and how we are meant to view them in the JW series.
    In Jurassic world, Clair repeatedly shoots a dimorphodon with five rounds of tranquilizer AFTER she had already knocked it out, most likely overdosing it without needing to.
    The I-rex is not portrayed as a animal, but as a sadistic murder machine that eats its sibling and "kills for sport". You can make the argument that it was behaving aggressively like how orcas would when they are badly treated in captivity, but in no way is this portrayed as a tragedy in the film or the trauma focused on.
    In fallen kingdom, the dinosaurs should NOT have been released. They of corse do not deserve to die, but releasing them would not only be damaging to the environment but also make the dinosaurs suffer as well. These are animals that had only known captivity their whole lives and have no place to integrate into the natural world. They will get sick, they will be attacked by both humans and native animals protecting themselves, they will be mistreated by animal traffickers, they will have a hard time finding food they can eat, etc. They are going to suffer. I fear it would give people justification to release their unwanted pets into the wild because they think that's what's bets for them.
    What I have said about the I-rex also applies to the I-raptor, but I also want to mention that they are really pushing the EVIL DINOSAUR with this one. Especially with the giga being the "Joker" (a literal villain) of the movie to be revenge killed by the T-rex for killing the,,, original rex,,, it was cloned from,,,, christ this is stupid. Anyway, we should not be anthropomorphizing wild animals. This applies to Blue to. It is a beautiful thing when there is a genuine moment when a human and animal can relate with each other, but there is danger that comes with that. Viewing animals through a moral lens has justified the slaughter of countless species and even taken the lives of humans when they lower their guard towards a dangerous animal.