Agreed. When Rakell came to the "Burgh, it seemed like he and Sid shared the same mind as he seemed to be in the right spot for a Sid pass. Hopefully, they regain that.
I think he'll probably end up costing even more than Guentzel, but Sam Reinhart seems like he would solve an awful lot of problems for us. And, I'm not saying that the power-play couldn't be fixed without him, but the guy is lethal from the slot, and the left side hash marks. And, if that's not enough for you, 4th in Selke voting. I'm sure that a portion of that is due to playing with Barkov, but Sid Crosby isn't exactly chopped liver. Pulling a big fish like that to fill LW1, assuming DO'C doesn't do it, and I'd prefer if he didn't, means that you're going to have to move out one of Smith or Rakell if you want any sort of cap space. People talk about trading POJ, but I thought we wanted to rebuild the team with good, young players, no? And trading him only frees up $825k. Of course, he does need to be re-signed.
Another place to look at, for a trade, is Vegas...again. They have gotten into cap trouble, again, and have only 897,000 available but still have right free agents to try resigning.
@Milliardo66 look at the current teams left in the playoffs, look at there books. A lot of them are going to lose a lot of those pieces. Look at the penguins last two cups. We had Murray cheap as possible because he was a rookie, kessel Toronto retained salary, so we had him on cheap. Our depth was from the ahl that panned out well, on cheap. After that final cup we couldn't afford anyone. Rutherford instead of realizing hey we need to retool now so in 6 years we aren't in the crapper sold off prospects and picks to attempt more runs. Rutherford replacements did the same. I like Dubas because he gave them until trade deadline to prove they could compete for a cup, thru couldn't, he stopped the bleeding and sold jake to start the serious retool needed. He still has Rutherford and hextalls mistakes that he's got to deal with for a whild.
Float Jake a 9.5Mx7 If he signs it, trade Smith to the wild for a pick no retention. Sign Henrique to a 1 year contract around a 3-3.5M aav Guentzel Crosby rust Bunting Malkin Rakell Doc-Henrique - pussty Acciari-Eller-JP Bring up blomqvist Need to bring back POJ on the cheap (somewhere near 2M) or get out from under Graves contract. It can work, but a lot has to go right
We 💯 need a top line winger. We had a guy that was the perfect fit and let him walk..Jake Guentzel was never the problem. Rust is inconsistent and misses significant time year in and year out. Can't be relied on. Don't need Marner or Zegras. Plus after what happened between Sid and Zegras I don't believe Sid did a big Zegras fan. Maaayybbbeee Stamkos but he's older. If that's the case might as well bring Jake back. We need a top 6 shut down Damn and a top line winger. That's what we need. Also need a healthy Jarry and to stay healthy and a very capable back up just in case
@@jsebby2284lol.hes a good.player but it's true .he can fill a top 6 role but we definitely need a consistent top 6 winger. Sid and Geno are not spring chickens..a few years back you could put a sack of potatoes on their line and they would make them look good. Sid is still close to that level. Geno has slipped a bit. The fact is they need a little more help. Rust is a solid player but the fact is he's never played a full season ( he did play 81 once) and he's never put up 30 goals..is he skilled, yes. Does he have the ability to play with Sid and Geno, yes..but is he the answer for Jake Guentzels missing production, no. Rakell will likely have a bounce back year and he could fill a top 6 role. DOC was a great story and maybe he fills a top 6. Bunting was great he fills a top 6. Are those 4 good enough to help get us to the finals or even the playoffs? Probably not. We need help on the wing. That is this teams top priority along with a strong left handed shut down D man
@@brandonconnelly6562 oh I'm not saying he's a Guentzel replacement or anything like that. And your point about his missing games is totally fair. I was mainly just being cheeky haha - but he is a good legitimate top 6 forward. He's a RW so he really wouldn't be a Guentzel replacement anyway They could definitely use a top 6 left wing to replace Guentzel. But I also wouldn't be opposed to spreading that money around for better depth. But yes - another defensively minded LHD would be great. I absolutely agree. I agree with pretty much everything you're saying - like I said I was just being a bit cheeky about Rust haha
Crickets during free agency. Lots of drafts picks and no top six forward moves having lost Geuntzel and Smith And not replaced their goals. Bunting is fine but you lost around 60 goals between the two. Gonna be a long season methinks
Trade - Jarry, Smith, Nieto, POJ, and maybe Acciari. Sign - a middle 6 forward, and a LD to play with Letang Trade for - get a 1G, prospects, and picks W or L?
Rielly Smith has been linked to Nashville, i’d try to do a 3 way trade to get rid of Jarry, and Smith and somehow bring in Saros. maybe add a pick or low prospect.
Should they not just trade away all their draft picks for the remaining years that Crosby is there? Need NHL proven players now, we don’t have time to develop players and waste Crosby’s last years. Then when Crosby retires we go back to developing players….maybe have a bad year and get a good chance at 1st round pick. Idk if it’s good that they went on that streak this year and lost this years 1st rd pick (although they would had chance at lottery draft being like 7th worst if they would kept losing), but now they have next years 1st rd pick instead of keeping this years cause deal was if they finished 12th or better they lose this years 1st rd, if they’d finish in bottom 11th or worse they would kept this years and gave up next years.
If they did that, they wouldn't have just one bad year. They would be the Red Wings post Datsyuk and Zetterberg. They are already on that trajectory now.
@SupplementalSense: Yeah post Datsyuk and Zeterberg but not while they were there. It’s a sure thing anyways that Pens will blow when Crosby/Malkin retire. They will have the draft picks starting the year after Crosby retires. Probably a better thing if they’re horrible for 2 years after Crosby’s gone so they can have chance at winning draft lottery. I don’t think they’ll be Stanley cup contenders after Crosby till they hit that draft lottery on a good year when a Crosby/McDavid type of player is available. Just my opinion.
@@brandonn7770yes - they have money to pay him. Good lord there is no way you just said DOC is better than Guentzel hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
@jsebby2284 thats why drew is faster. Younger. Stronger. And Jake is a rag doll who gets thrown around. And jarry is pile of dog crap who can suck a golf ball through a garden hose. And Jake is a selfish scumbag who was offered a team friendly deal he said no.
Again with old guys who do yall get this junk from. You said yesterday no one from Florida incase they "win" the stanley cup will want the big tax. But we need you talk bout young blood on cap friendly. And jarry sucks.
@jsebby2284 he really does he wants 10 mil when we tryed to get him for a team friendly deal he said no. Pens only have 12 mil in capspace. Do you have 10mil to pay him? No? O'Connor is better younger faster and throws his body
@@brandonn7770 I think you may need to read my comment again because your comment has nothing to do with what I said. I don't even know who you're talking about to be honest
@brandonn7770 nowhere did I say I didn't know Drew O Connor. I actually love DOC and have been defending him for years now. Are you okay man? Nothing you're saying is even remotely making any sense haha
Really interesting listen. Great work.
Just think how great you'd look as a GM if you got Guentzel back. You'd be loved in Pittsburgh for a long time.
I would prefer Rakell and send Smith out. I feel Rakell will be better next season. But who really knows??
I agree
Agreed. When Rakell came to the "Burgh, it seemed like he and Sid shared the same mind as he seemed to be in the right spot for a Sid pass. Hopefully, they regain that.
I think he'll probably end up costing even more than Guentzel, but Sam Reinhart seems like he would solve an awful lot of problems for us. And, I'm not saying that the power-play couldn't be fixed without him, but the guy is lethal from the slot, and the left side hash marks. And, if that's not enough for you, 4th in Selke voting. I'm sure that a portion of that is due to playing with Barkov, but Sid Crosby isn't exactly chopped liver. Pulling a big fish like that to fill LW1, assuming DO'C doesn't do it, and I'd prefer if he didn't, means that you're going to have to move out one of Smith or Rakell if you want any sort of cap space. People talk about trading POJ, but I thought we wanted to rebuild the team with good, young players, no? And trading him only frees up $825k. Of course, he does need to be re-signed.
Another place to look at, for a trade, is Vegas...again. They have gotten into cap trouble, again, and have only 897,000 available but still have right free agents to try resigning.
Youth and a consistent first string goalie
lets ignore Marner. I think everyone forgets that Dubas was most likely fired because he wanted to trade Marner and Shanny didn't want to do that.
I think he was fired because he signed Marner to that stupid contract with an NMC.
I wouldn’t want Marner for a 7th round pick
The problem with this journalists list is that there is this thing called a salary cap
Facts
Well she said this is what cup winners had on their roster
@Milliardo66 look at the current teams left in the playoffs, look at there books. A lot of them are going to lose a lot of those pieces. Look at the penguins last two cups. We had Murray cheap as possible because he was a rookie, kessel Toronto retained salary, so we had him on cheap. Our depth was from the ahl that panned out well, on cheap. After that final cup we couldn't afford anyone. Rutherford instead of realizing hey we need to retool now so in 6 years we aren't in the crapper sold off prospects and picks to attempt more runs. Rutherford replacements did the same. I like Dubas because he gave them until trade deadline to prove they could compete for a cup, thru couldn't, he stopped the bleeding and sold jake to start the serious retool needed. He still has Rutherford and hextalls mistakes that he's got to deal with for a whild.
@@christopherharte4741 Yes sure, but that doesn’t change the fact, that all teams who won the last few cups had this
@@Milliardo66 tb and Vegas both had to circumvent the cap and go well above it
Float Jake a 9.5Mx7
If he signs it, trade Smith to the wild for a pick no retention.
Sign Henrique to a 1 year contract around a 3-3.5M aav
Guentzel Crosby rust
Bunting Malkin Rakell
Doc-Henrique - pussty
Acciari-Eller-JP
Bring up blomqvist
Need to bring back POJ on the cheap (somewhere near 2M) or get out from under Graves contract.
It can work, but a lot has to go right
Top 6 goal scoring winger is obviously our biggest need
The goal tending is the last thing. They need two 20 goal plus forwards. One being a second line center. They need a LD to play with Karlsson.
They already have a 20 plus goal 2nd line center
they need a player to help Sid...a player to complement Malkin & Bunts + a few players for lines 3 & 4 (hopeful some of the kids can make this jump)
We 💯 need a top line winger. We had a guy that was the perfect fit and let him walk..Jake Guentzel was never the problem. Rust is inconsistent and misses significant time year in and year out. Can't be relied on. Don't need Marner or Zegras. Plus after what happened between Sid and Zegras I don't believe Sid did a big Zegras fan. Maaayybbbeee Stamkos but he's older. If that's the case might as well bring Jake back. We need a top 6 shut down Damn and a top line winger. That's what we need. Also need a healthy Jarry and to stay healthy and a very capable back up just in case
I won't accept any Rust slander lol. Especially after the year he just had
@@jsebby2284lol.hes a good.player but it's true .he can fill a top 6 role but we definitely need a consistent top 6 winger. Sid and Geno are not spring chickens..a few years back you could put a sack of potatoes on their line and they would make them look good. Sid is still close to that level. Geno has slipped a bit. The fact is they need a little more help. Rust is a solid player but the fact is he's never played a full season ( he did play 81 once) and he's never put up 30 goals..is he skilled, yes. Does he have the ability to play with Sid and Geno, yes..but is he the answer for Jake Guentzels missing production, no. Rakell will likely have a bounce back year and he could fill a top 6 role. DOC was a great story and maybe he fills a top 6. Bunting was great he fills a top 6. Are those 4 good enough to help get us to the finals or even the playoffs? Probably not. We need help on the wing. That is this teams top priority along with a strong left handed shut down D man
@@brandonconnelly6562 oh I'm not saying he's a Guentzel replacement or anything like that. And your point about his missing games is totally fair. I was mainly just being cheeky haha - but he is a good legitimate top 6 forward. He's a RW so he really wouldn't be a Guentzel replacement anyway
They could definitely use a top 6 left wing to replace Guentzel. But I also wouldn't be opposed to spreading that money around for better depth.
But yes - another defensively minded LHD would be great. I absolutely agree.
I agree with pretty much everything you're saying - like I said I was just being a bit cheeky about Rust haha
Stammer is older but out of all of them mentioned , I would take Stammer .
Over Reinhart, are you crazy? They both have elite sniping ability and would greatly improve the lagging PP, but Reinhart kills penalties too.
Crickets during free agency. Lots of drafts picks and no top six forward moves having lost Geuntzel and Smith
And not replaced their goals. Bunting is fine but you lost around 60 goals between the two. Gonna be a long season methinks
I really wish the organization would stop lieing to themselves... its almost 2025, we havent won a round since 2018! Can we stop the madness already!
Trade - Jarry, Smith, Nieto, POJ, and maybe Acciari.
Sign - a middle 6 forward, and a LD to play with Letang
Trade for - get a 1G, prospects, and picks
W or L?
all of those and Raks
Why would you trade your 1G forcing you to need a 1G? And what goalies are available?
Everything else seems fine though
Rielly Smith has been linked to Nashville, i’d try to do a 3 way trade to get rid of Jarry, and Smith and somehow bring in Saros. maybe add a pick or low prospect.
@@teamcrusade8170 Dont need saros...Ned can be #1
@teamcrusade8170 I mean sure Saros would be great but you'd have to pay so much to have them take Smith and Jarry
Should they not just trade away all their draft picks for the remaining years that Crosby is there? Need NHL proven players now, we don’t have time to develop players and waste Crosby’s last years. Then when Crosby retires we go back to developing players….maybe have a bad year and get a good chance at 1st round pick.
Idk if it’s good that they went on that streak this year and lost this years 1st rd pick (although they would had chance at lottery draft being like 7th worst if they would kept losing), but now they have next years 1st rd pick instead of keeping this years cause deal was if they finished 12th or better they lose this years 1st rd, if they’d finish in bottom 11th or worse they would kept this years and gave up next years.
If they did that, they wouldn't have just one bad year. They would be the Red Wings post Datsyuk and Zetterberg. They are already on that trajectory now.
@SupplementalSense: Yeah post Datsyuk and Zeterberg but not while they were there. It’s a sure thing anyways that Pens will blow when Crosby/Malkin retire. They will have the draft picks starting the year after Crosby retires.
Probably a better thing if they’re horrible for 2 years after Crosby’s gone so they can have chance at winning draft lottery.
I don’t think they’ll be Stanley cup contenders after Crosby till they hit that draft lottery on a good year when a Crosby/McDavid type of player is available. Just my opinion.
Almost like guentzel
lmmfao you guys just traded away a top line winger
Jarry needs to go we dont need another season where jarry fails yet again that was two seasons hes failed to be an elite goalie hes a murray
We need Jake
You have money to pay him. Pens only have about 12 mil he's not coming back O'Connor is better
Jake DeBrusk maybe.
@@brandonn7770yes - they have money to pay him. Good lord there is no way you just said DOC is better than Guentzel hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
@jsebby2284 thats why drew is faster. Younger. Stronger. And Jake is a rag doll who gets thrown around. And jarry is pile of dog crap who can suck a golf ball through a garden hose. And Jake is a selfish scumbag who was offered a team friendly deal he said no.
The team needs grit! We need bertuzzi
Did you pay any attention to his first half of the season? Bertuzzi was invisible and uninterested. No thanks..
We need goals
🤡🤡🤡
Grit, sure. Bertuzzi, not so much. That's more like dirty and lazy.
Again with old guys who do yall get this junk from. You said yesterday no one from Florida incase they "win" the stanley cup will want the big tax. But we need you talk bout young blood on cap friendly. And jarry sucks.
Jarry doesnt suck though
@jsebby2284 he really does he wants 10 mil when we tryed to get him for a team friendly deal he said no. Pens only have 12 mil in capspace. Do you have 10mil to pay him? No? O'Connor is better younger faster and throws his body
@@brandonn7770 I think you may need to read my comment again because your comment has nothing to do with what I said. I don't even know who you're talking about to be honest
@jsebby2284 you don't know drew O'Connor oh my God you aren't a fan
@brandonn7770 nowhere did I say I didn't know Drew O Connor. I actually love DOC and have been defending him for years now. Are you okay man? Nothing you're saying is even remotely making any sense haha