From what I've gathered from UNLV fans, the fan base is 100% convinced the Big 12 invitation is as good as in the mail. They think that since the Big 12 hosts their championship game in Vegas and UNLV has only lost 5 games in the last season and a third that the only logical conclusion is that the Big 12 is so enamored by their city and success that they no choice but to add them. I'm internally split between feeling bad for them and laughing at their naivete.
They just took a 1 time check to take a big step down in comp. and media exposure. 21 of the last 25 seasons with 5 wins or less (many a lot less), and next to last in viewership in the low viewership MW over the last 10 years, only gotten better very recently, but no history of winning or supporting the team, their top coaches will be getting poached soon. It's over.
Best Case For Pac Moving Forward 2 Divions East PAC & West PAC 12 teams, 6 per division. 8 conference games with 5 div games & a conference champ game. Add 4 more BB only teams to make 16 PAC WEST OREGON ST WASHINGTON ST BOISE ST FRESNO ST SAN DIEGO ST UTAH ST BB Only Gonzaga Saint Marys PAC EAST TULANE MEMPHIS S FLORIDA UTSA UTEP / N. TEXAS / TULSA / RICE COLORADO ST BB Only WICHITA ST GRAND CANYON
@@BroncoBleymaierno body from the AAC is joining this crap conference organizers. The MWC is ran better than the new PAC and think they would have learned from the old PAC12 mistakes but nope.
Welcome to the PAC. It will be as good as we can build it together. It as already clearly the top G5, and I don’t think gunning for power status in the short term is unrealistic. Fan base, facilities, athletic budgets, all there. Now, go get a top notch 8th member and cement this thing. Memphis still out there for the getting. Hell, bring over Tulane and UTSA also. Add Gonzaga as a basketball member and it would really be something. Let’s get it done.
Had we been consistent with winning since the Petersen days, where do you think we would be? I agree, this alignment came along when we were not at our best. I look at Houston, SMU, Cincy and they have no where near the brand we have- however, they were “buzzing” at the right time.
@@himrbean100you are absolutely incredibly incorrect and naive about the schools added. First the schools added outside of BYU had been in power conferences before with success and been D1 football and D1 schools as a whole far longer than Boise. All of the schools have vastly superior academics and Olympic sports and history superior. No doubt Boise State belongs in the Big12 as I never said they didn’t. How they have gone about things are what matters and concerns me. It is not illegal until you get caught, and SMU knows all too well about that as does UCLA and Miami and Penn State but neither of them got the Death Penalty, although they should have or got very close enough to be so hammered it felt like it. Memphis has been around way longer than Boise State and is a Tier 1, Carnegie 1, R1 academic institution of research and education and has been in power conferences before with success. But they are not in a power 4 conference yet. Boise State has feasted upon primarily inferior conference competition and has been required to try and schedule tough non conference meetings in football to prove their merits. Everyone knows this and knows that the four or five G5 schools added to A4 conferences have sustained substantial history in winning and winning in stronger Autonomy or former Autonomous Conferences. Boise State and the other schools added to the PAC have no such history and the networks know this too along with the investors.
Football Make a 2 division East & West PAC Conference consisting of 14 teams, 7 per division. Each team plays 9 conference games with 6 divisional games & a conference championship. PAC WEST OREGON ST WASHINGTON ST BOISE ST FRESNO ST SAN DIEGO ST UTAH ST COLORADO ST PAC EAST / BIG EAST TULANE MEMPHIS S FLORIDA UAB UCONN TULSA UTEP Basketball PAC East (Except UTEP) move to BIG EAST giving them 16 teams. PAC West + UTEP merge with the top 4 WCC teams and 2 WAC Teams. 14 total for PAC, the rest of WCC & WAC teams merge to form a 14 team conference. PAC North Oregon St Washington St Boise St Gonzaga Utah St Colorado St Utah Valley PAC South San Diego St Fresno St Grand Canyon Saint Marys Santa Clara San Fran UTEP Also note that UTEP should/could ]have been UNLV.
Two questions for the viewers. 1. Do you agree with Jake that long term college football is moving to a multi-tiered relegation and promotion system? 2. What do you think it will take for Ashton Jeanty to win the Heisman?
1. The problem with a relegation/promotion system is that means some of the “haves” could be relegated to a “have-not” and I don’t think any of those schools are going to be willing to risk that. Cash Rules Everything Around Me. Why would a Kansas or Iowa State or Vanderbilt risk being relegated and lose all that income? Personally I love that idea. Let the teams move up and down each year based on wins and losses. It would make college football amazing to watch. All games would really matter. 2. Play for a P5 school? I think it would help if we got into the playoff and maybe win a game or two. Otherwise no way. Even then probably not. The “haves” don’t like to give up money, power, or prestige.
The MWC-5 schools are going to regret their move, especially the last foolish defector USU, which was the proverbial last lemming to sleepwalk over the cliff, and into the lap of the stillborn PAC-X...yeah, good luck with that! The irony is that besides the outrageous exit fees -- and legally-binding penalty fees -- the foolish defector schools and the PAC-X must pay penalty fees to the MWC (thank you very much!)... ...and to add insult to injury, the MWC used these funds owed by the PAC-X to not only retain the residual MWC members (6 full-time members plus Hawai'i), but also strengthen them financially -- especially UNLV and AF -- while also granting the latter two a NO PENALTY future exit to an AQ4 conferece! Hahaha! In contrast, BSU, SDSU, FSU, CSU, and USU are trapped into a deal with the stillborn PAC-X in which they would have to fork over $30M to exit to an AQ4 conference and $40M to exit towards another conference! Hahaha - - good luck with that! UNLV and AF got the proverbial bag and a free/no penalty exit clause to the big-time conferences. Of course, the ACC isn't going to fall apart so no one is going to be going anywhere anytime soon -- FSU and Clemson will have the performance-based payments they sought from the ACC, as will other conferences soon enough, so the ACC isn't going to fall apart anytime soon. But back to the PAC-X, if I were any of the defector schools, especially USU, I would be sweating bullets about the mess of a conference that I have joined, wondering why the AD and staff didn't conduct proper due dilligence prior to jumping the gun because the grass seemed greener on the other side. The MWC-5 are going to waste so much money on a lateral move into a conference that doesn't have the administrative leadership nor funding to make it a truly "best of the rest" G-5 conference. Yeah, good luck with that! As a fan and alumnus of two MWC schools, I'm enjoying seeing that the PAC-X is stuck in its organizational development because it certainly doesn't have the funds to acquire the desired AAC f-ball schools alongside the preferred b-ball ones -- it can't even acquire the AAC schools just by themselves. Meanwhile, the MWC is more workman-like an practical, seeking to add new, emerging schools that are more easily acquireable and organizationally suitable. And I greatly thank and appreciate Gloria's efforts in keeping the MWC together and protecting the interests of it's least visible and most vulnerable members, which all have immensely loyal fanbases in often remote and distant parts of the country. It's truly refreshing to see her run circles around Teresa at the PAC-X while standing up for the interests of the "little guy." At this point, I'd be happy with any or all of Texas State, NMSU, UTEP, SFA, Arkansas St, Toledo, NIU, and any other school joining the MWC because part of the fun is not just adding rising programs to the conference but also foreclosing the number of schools that the PAC-X could acquire to get an 8th full member, particularly because the PAC office and school leadership would undoubtedly look down upon any of the minnow(s) added as merely being cupcake(s)/filler(s) to meet the minimum conference creation requirements. Conversely, any new members would be more highly regarded and respected by the MWC office and its member schools' leaderships. The MWC has the PAC-X by the proverbial balls with that phony lawsuit that was filed. The PAC-X can't get out of its legal obligation, especially since the MWC will counter that the PAC-X sought control of the PAC-12 monies left behind to rebuild its own conference, thus making the residual monies left by the departing 10 schools into an effective penalty for their departure that allows the PAC-X to rebuild. Furthermore, the PAC-X has imposed its own $30M/$40M exit penalties upon its new members, so these are some of the many reasons why the PAC-X lawsuit is doomed. The AAC schools aren't going to join the PAC-X due to 1) travel distance, time, and difficulty of reaching the rather remote locations of some PAC-X schools, especially for all their sports teams, 2) the atmospheric and weather differences between the relatively mild southeastern climate and the rather frigid northwestern one, and 3) PAC-X's lack of money to buy them out and subsifize their exit costs and travel costs, and 4) the organizational mess that the PAC-X has shown itself to be, including the public relations disasters it faces from its behaviors and the ongoing litigation that it has foolishly launched against the MWC -- no one wants to partner with such ac lousy organization like the PAC-X that launches frivolous lawsuits and can't be trusted because it renegged on a contractual arrangement to poach upon it's business partner's assets! Have I made the case sufficiently for why the MWC is going to come out far ahead of the PAC-X, and why the departing MWC schools must be regretting the stupidity and short-sightedness of their ADs?
Colorado st. Utah st. Top mw teams??? Nobody thinks that the pac is even close to the same league as it was two years ago. You're pac 7 conference is no different than the mwc 😅
Great collaboration. The "studio" was awesome.
Once in a life time experience!!
Glad to have you both in studio!!!
It was an absolute blast!!! One of the coolest experiences of my life! Thank you for having me over!
Great show Gentlemen. Keep ‘em’ coming!
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Well done! I'm not sure that I agree with you on everything, but there was a lot of great analysis.
That’s the best kind of show, if you just hear evening you already believe then what’s the point of watching 😁
Thank you for the kind words! This was really fun to make!
What a fun combo of personalities here. Good Energy 🤓
Thank you 😁
Wow ! This is dope blaymeir! You’ve came a long way
Appreciate that! Thank you! Don’t get used to this though, this was an awesome once in a lifetime experience 😂
From what I've gathered from UNLV fans, the fan base is 100% convinced the Big 12 invitation is as good as in the mail. They think that since the Big 12 hosts their championship game in Vegas and UNLV has only lost 5 games in the last season and a third that the only logical conclusion is that the Big 12 is so enamored by their city and success that they no choice but to add them. I'm internally split between feeling bad for them and laughing at their naivete.
They just took a 1 time check to take a big step down in comp. and media exposure. 21 of the last 25 seasons with 5 wins or less (many a lot less), and next to last in viewership in the low viewership MW over the last 10 years, only gotten better very recently, but no history of winning or supporting the team, their top coaches will be getting poached soon. It's over.
I’m leaning into laughing 😂
PAC-12 should go after Texas State.
Definitely need a school or two from Texas.
God bless Texas!
There’s better Texas schools…🤷🏻♂️
@BroncoBleymaier but it has STATE in the name!
@@BroncoBleymaier your right let’s go get Texas 🤦♂️
@butchcassidy8965 NT or UTSA would be better options
Best Case For Pac Moving Forward
2 Divions East PAC & West PAC
12 teams, 6 per division.
8 conference games with 5 div games
& a conference champ game.
Add 4 more BB only teams to make 16
PAC WEST
OREGON ST
WASHINGTON ST
BOISE ST
FRESNO ST
SAN DIEGO ST
UTAH ST
BB Only
Gonzaga
Saint Marys
PAC EAST
TULANE
MEMPHIS
S FLORIDA
UTSA
UTEP / N. TEXAS / TULSA / RICE
COLORADO ST
BB Only
WICHITA ST
GRAND CANYON
Love that plan! Gonzaga and Saint Mary’s would be great adds for basketball 🏀
Not a bad idea!
@@BroncoBleymaierno body from the AAC is joining this crap conference organizers. The MWC is ran better than the new PAC and think they would have learned from the old PAC12 mistakes but nope.
Welcome to the PAC. It will be as good as we can build it together. It as already clearly the top G5, and I don’t think gunning for power status in the short term is unrealistic. Fan base, facilities, athletic budgets, all there.
Now, go get a top notch 8th member and cement this thing. Memphis still out there for the getting. Hell, bring over Tulane and UTSA also. Add Gonzaga as a basketball member and it would really be something.
Let’s get it done.
Had we been consistent with winning since the Petersen days, where do you think we would be? I agree, this alignment came along when we were not at our best. I look at Houston, SMU, Cincy and they have no where near the brand we have- however, they were “buzzing” at the right time.
💯 it’s hard to imagine we would have been left out 🤷🏻♂️
@@BroncoBleymaier totally agree! Thanks brother!
@@himrbean100you are absolutely incredibly incorrect and naive about the schools added. First the schools added outside of BYU had been in power conferences before with success and been D1 football and D1 schools as a whole far longer than Boise. All of the schools have vastly superior academics and Olympic sports and history superior. No doubt Boise State belongs in the Big12 as I never said they didn’t. How they have gone about things are what matters and concerns me. It is not illegal until you get caught, and SMU knows all too well about that as does UCLA and Miami and Penn State but neither of them got the Death Penalty, although they should have or got very close enough to be so hammered it felt like it. Memphis has been around way longer than Boise State and is a Tier 1, Carnegie 1, R1 academic institution of research and education and has been in power conferences before with success. But they are not in a power 4 conference yet. Boise State has feasted upon primarily inferior conference competition and has been required to try and schedule tough non conference meetings in football to prove their merits. Everyone knows this and knows that the four or five G5 schools added to A4 conferences have sustained substantial history in winning and winning in stronger Autonomy or former Autonomous Conferences. Boise State and the other schools added to the PAC have no such history and the networks know this too along with the investors.
BB: Sorry I took so long on that first answer. MF: Hold my Pepsi.
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Football
Make a 2 division East & West PAC Conference consisting of 14 teams, 7 per division. Each team plays 9 conference games with 6 divisional games & a conference championship.
PAC WEST
OREGON ST
WASHINGTON ST
BOISE ST
FRESNO ST
SAN DIEGO ST
UTAH ST
COLORADO ST
PAC EAST / BIG EAST
TULANE
MEMPHIS
S FLORIDA
UAB
UCONN
TULSA
UTEP
Basketball
PAC East (Except UTEP) move to BIG EAST giving them 16 teams.
PAC West + UTEP merge with the top 4 WCC teams and 2 WAC Teams. 14 total for PAC, the rest of WCC & WAC teams merge to form a 14 team conference.
PAC North
Oregon St
Washington St
Boise St
Gonzaga
Utah St
Colorado St
Utah Valley
PAC South
San Diego St
Fresno St
Grand Canyon
Saint Marys
Santa Clara
San Fran
UTEP
Also note that UTEP should/could ]have been UNLV.
"Let's make sure we're clear..."
Great video man!
Loved doing this with you dude!! One of the greatest experiences of my life!
Two questions for the viewers.
1. Do you agree with Jake that long term college football is moving to a multi-tiered relegation and promotion system?
2. What do you think it will take for Ashton Jeanty to win the Heisman?
1. The problem with a relegation/promotion system is that means some of the “haves” could be relegated to a “have-not” and I don’t think any of those schools are going to be willing to risk that. Cash Rules Everything Around Me. Why would a Kansas or Iowa State or Vanderbilt risk being relegated and lose all that income? Personally I love that idea. Let the teams move up and down each year based on wins and losses. It would make college football amazing to watch. All games would really matter.
2. Play for a P5 school? I think it would help if we got into the playoff and maybe win a game or two. Otherwise no way. Even then probably not. The “haves” don’t like to give up money, power, or prestige.
Texas state to the PAC
I hope not but they are better than UCONN
I think UNLV wants to be like Boise State was in the WAC and get handed a few MW championships before they make their move
*handed?! 😂😂😂😂😂
@@BroncoBleymaier 😂 the only team that can compete currently is San Jose State and they’re a 6-6 or 7-5 team at best if we’re honest…
The MWC-5 schools are going to regret their move, especially the last foolish defector USU, which was the proverbial last lemming to sleepwalk over the cliff, and into the lap of the stillborn PAC-X...yeah, good luck with that! The irony is that besides the outrageous exit fees -- and legally-binding penalty fees -- the foolish defector schools and the PAC-X must pay penalty fees to the MWC (thank you very much!)...
...and to add insult to injury, the MWC used these funds owed by the PAC-X to not only retain the residual MWC members (6 full-time members plus Hawai'i), but also strengthen them financially -- especially UNLV and AF -- while also granting the latter two a NO PENALTY future exit to an AQ4 conferece! Hahaha!
In contrast, BSU, SDSU, FSU, CSU, and USU are trapped into a deal with the stillborn PAC-X in which they would have to fork over $30M to exit to an AQ4 conference and $40M to exit towards another conference! Hahaha - - good luck with that! UNLV and AF got the proverbial bag and a free/no penalty exit clause to the big-time conferences. Of course, the ACC isn't going to fall apart so no one is going to be going anywhere anytime soon -- FSU and Clemson will have the performance-based payments they sought from the ACC, as will other conferences soon enough, so the ACC isn't going to fall apart anytime soon.
But back to the PAC-X, if I were any of the defector schools, especially USU, I would be sweating bullets about the mess of a conference that I have joined, wondering why the AD and staff didn't conduct proper due dilligence prior to jumping the gun because the grass seemed greener on the other side. The MWC-5 are going to waste so much money on a lateral move into a conference that doesn't have the administrative leadership nor funding to make it a truly "best of the rest" G-5 conference. Yeah, good luck with that!
As a fan and alumnus of two MWC schools, I'm enjoying seeing that the PAC-X is stuck in its organizational development because it certainly doesn't have the funds to acquire the desired AAC f-ball schools alongside the preferred b-ball ones -- it can't even acquire the AAC schools just by themselves. Meanwhile, the MWC is more workman-like an practical, seeking to add new, emerging schools that are more easily acquireable and organizationally suitable.
And I greatly thank and appreciate Gloria's efforts in keeping the MWC together and protecting the interests of it's least visible and most vulnerable members, which all have immensely loyal fanbases in often remote and distant parts of the country. It's truly refreshing to see her run circles around Teresa at the PAC-X while standing up for the interests of the "little guy."
At this point, I'd be happy with any or all of Texas State, NMSU, UTEP, SFA, Arkansas St, Toledo, NIU, and any other school joining the MWC because part of the fun is not just adding rising programs to the conference but also foreclosing the number of schools that the PAC-X could acquire to get an 8th full member, particularly because the PAC office and school leadership would undoubtedly look down upon any of the minnow(s) added as merely being cupcake(s)/filler(s) to meet the minimum conference creation requirements. Conversely, any new members would be more highly regarded and respected by the MWC office and its member schools' leaderships.
The MWC has the PAC-X by the proverbial balls with that phony lawsuit that was filed. The PAC-X can't get out of its legal obligation, especially since the MWC will counter that the PAC-X sought control of the PAC-12 monies left behind to rebuild its own conference, thus making the residual monies left by the departing 10 schools into an effective penalty for their departure that allows the PAC-X to rebuild. Furthermore, the PAC-X has imposed its own $30M/$40M exit penalties upon its new members, so these are some of the many reasons why the PAC-X lawsuit is doomed.
The AAC schools aren't going to join the PAC-X due to 1) travel distance, time, and difficulty of reaching the rather remote locations of some PAC-X schools, especially for all their sports teams, 2) the atmospheric and weather differences between the relatively mild southeastern climate and the rather frigid northwestern one, and 3) PAC-X's lack of money to buy them out and subsifize their exit costs and travel costs, and 4) the organizational mess that the PAC-X has shown itself to be, including the public relations disasters it faces from its behaviors and the ongoing litigation that it has foolishly launched against the MWC -- no one wants to partner with such ac lousy organization like the PAC-X that launches frivolous lawsuits and can't be trusted because it renegged on a contractual arrangement to poach upon it's business partner's assets!
Have I made the case sufficiently for why the MWC is going to come out far ahead of the PAC-X, and why the departing MWC schools must be regretting the stupidity and short-sightedness of their ADs?
No, you haven't.
Sorry to bust your bubble! You're not the PAC 12 you're the pac 7
Colorado st. Utah st. Top mw teams??? Nobody thinks that the pac is even close to the same league as it was two years ago. You're pac 7 conference is no different than the mwc 😅
Better than what the MWC was
We addressed both of those… did you actually watch the video…?
Time to grow up from D2 times and get rid of the childish blue field.
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Jeff works for Bud Light's marketing department...
Background is so annoying.