Make Sodium Oxalate - Primary Standard for Analytical Chemistry

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  • Опубликовано: 30 май 2023
  • In this video we make a sodium oxalate, a simple primary standard for the standardization of potassium permanganate titrant.
    The reaction is pretty simple. 120g of oxalic acid is dissolved in 300mL of boiling water and mixed with 80g of sodium hydroxide dissolved in 200mL of water. The sodium oxalate precipitates out and is allowed to cool. It is filtered and dried.
    Sodium oxalate will be used in an upcoming video to standardize potassium permanganate solution that will in turn be used to titrate hydrogen peroxide.
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  • @NurdRage
    @NurdRage  Год назад +127

    Admittedly this video is rather simple, but my next video will be on finding the concentration of hydrogen peroxide by titration. To do that we need to standardize the titrant using the sodium oxalate we make here.

    • @firehoax9230
      @firehoax9230 Год назад +4

      Why not just add KI and measure the volume?

    • @NurdRage
      @NurdRage  Год назад +15

      The KI itself will need to be standardized.

    • @kinexkid
      @kinexkid Год назад +4

      Simple or not, the way you explain chemistry is better than any chemistry teacher I've had

    • @ejkozan
      @ejkozan Год назад +11

      Dear NurdRage, I think a very important thing as you dab into analytical chem, would be to talk a bit about error of method and obtained result. It would be nice to see a comparison of how big is error with titration, titration with standardized reagents, and some other widely used methods in home chem, like measuring the volume of oxygen from decomposition. I am curious how much +/-% would result from volume compared to proper titration. And this can also open home chem eyes to proper analysis.

    • @n2kbg
      @n2kbg Год назад +2

      This should be quite different from the usual youtube chemistry video where a guy carefully measures an amount of 10 year old reagent of questionable purity on a kitchen scale, throws the majority of it in a beaker (except for what spills off the paper onto the floor) and then "calculates" that the resulting reaction was 12.456785049560% efficient from the poorly washed and recryltalized product! LOL

  • @ejkozan
    @ejkozan Год назад +47

    Great to see your new video!
    I hope the community will appreciate the PROPER analytic approach. A good starting standard is crucial to get exact results. And people should be glad to see a way to experimentally determine the exact concentration of hydrogen peroxide, especially as some are concentrating it by themselves. Great idea NurdRage btw!

  • @Amateur.Chemistry
    @Amateur.Chemistry Год назад +23

    It is good to see you making videos again, you are the best chemistry channel on youtube :)

  • @mileswelch5136
    @mileswelch5136 Год назад +6

    I don't always fully understand what your videos are about, but I am able to understand enough of it. Thank you for making these and increasing my knowledge.

  • @ThatOneOddGuy
    @ThatOneOddGuy Год назад +8

    Ah here we go something to do with oxalate and it has to do with standards
    Perfect for me to learn and this is relevant to my anchem course

  • @lehandron0
    @lehandron0 3 месяца назад

    Thank you for the method! Our analytical lab is overloaded, so I was looking for the way of determining h2o2 concentration, and here it is!

  • @yaboyblacklist2431
    @yaboyblacklist2431 Год назад +2

    Feels good to see a new Nurdrage video.

  • @edgeeffect
    @edgeeffect Год назад

    One of your first videos I watched was "make potassium permanganate" and it quite literally (with no exaggeration) changed my life... and I love a nice titration... so I'm really looking forward to the next video.

  • @rickvandenberg
    @rickvandenberg Год назад +2

    Thanks Nurdrage - analytical techniques are a wonderful idea for a series.

  • @twocvbloke
    @twocvbloke Год назад +2

    It's so fun seeing liquids just turn into powdery stuff like that, chemistry is still an amazing thing to watch happen... :)

  • @JamesBakerOhio
    @JamesBakerOhio Год назад +1

    Not trivial at all, love ❤️ your content and look forward to the titration videos. Have learned much from you over the years and appreciate your efforts.

  • @Guido125
    @Guido125 Год назад +2

    Simple yet polished videos like this are amazing. Honestly, I love anything you put out as I always find I'm learning something.

  • @timmybaber007
    @timmybaber007 Год назад +1

    I'm so so glad to see a video from you, this channel is one of the first ones o subscribed to after creating a YT account, and you fueled my love for chemistry during my middle and highschool years, i hope you're around for much longer, cheers!

  • @michaelhicks8603
    @michaelhicks8603 Год назад +3

    Your content is invaluable to chemistry enthusiasts! Thank you and welcome back!!!!

  • @science_and_anonymous
    @science_and_anonymous Год назад +1

    Always so happy to see videos from you. Been watching for years. Just saw a synthesis on pyrimethamine and it made me think of you.

  • @larrybattraw6972
    @larrybattraw6972 Год назад +1

    Thanks for another quality video, they're really appreciated!

  • @zeyogoat
    @zeyogoat Год назад

    Gotta love the cleanliness of your analytical setup =P

  • @SetTheCurve
    @SetTheCurve Год назад +1

    If you want to avoid bubbling with the sodium carbonate, pour the oxalic acid into the carbonate so only bicarbonate is formed, not the carbonate into the oxalic acid which results in going all the way to CO2. If you want high quality sodium carbonate, bake some baking soda in the oven.

  • @udtheaesir
    @udtheaesir Год назад

    Yay, more upcoming videos by NurdRage~!

  • @shanesanders5074
    @shanesanders5074 Год назад +4

    Fantastic... content from NR.. great work.. a class mate.. respect from far north Queensland, Australia 🇦🇺... very useful reaction. Cheers.

  • @DVN7992
    @DVN7992 Год назад +1

    Cool video. You definitely bring new possibilities to life.

  • @kaboom4679
    @kaboom4679 Год назад

    Beats watching old vids or new vids of old done to death preps .
    Just glad you are back .

  • @Alloran
    @Alloran Год назад +1

    Welcome back my man. Have fun

  • @maphischen432
    @maphischen432 Год назад

    Wow, glad to see you again on youtube

  • @metrologic5000
    @metrologic5000 Год назад

    Even us amateurs need to know. Your videos have brought me back to the craft.

  • @imikla
    @imikla Год назад

    Yay! Analytical Chemistry!
    Thank you for doing this!

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    Keep on keeping on.

  • @SharpAssKnittingNeedles
    @SharpAssKnittingNeedles Год назад

    Awesome video! Other than college did all the chemistry in dry labs. You post such useful and informative videos though! Thank you for your work!

  • @ZoonCrypticon
    @ZoonCrypticon Год назад

    Great seeing you coming back ! Thank you ! Could you show one day, how to make H202 in different ways ?

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  • @TheCuriosium
    @TheCuriosium Год назад

    Awesome video!
    Thank you!

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    @asmaael-sayed8744 Год назад

    Fruitful information

  • @diegoandradex12
    @diegoandradex12 11 месяцев назад

    Though it is a simple video it is still great! Keep up the good work!

  • @c6q3a24
    @c6q3a24 Год назад

    Great to see a new video.
    I've got the same scale (00:29). It seems accurate enough... but it's definitely not great below 0.1g.

  • @Cristi0986
    @Cristi0986 Год назад

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  • @bedlaskybedla6361
    @bedlaskybedla6361 Год назад

    Nice video! I am looking forward for next video, not many people do analytical chemistry.
    As a side note - I personaly never had issues with using oxalic acid as primary standard.

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    @WarblyWark Год назад

    We need more!!!

  • @5Breaker
    @5Breaker Год назад

    4:05 dat scale just said "NOPE! I AIN'T PLAYIN WITH YOU ANYMORE"

  • @torchofkck4989
    @torchofkck4989 Год назад

    Thanks for sharing
    Very interested
    Looking forward
    Thanks again

  • @AssistantLeaflet
    @AssistantLeaflet Год назад

    Always a great occasion to see what you’ve been up to again beautiful.

  • @syntactyx
    @syntactyx Год назад +3

    Excellent. I have some H2O2 of unknown concentration (been concentrating it with P2O5) that I'd like to titrate.

  • @quanquoctruong1276
    @quanquoctruong1276 Год назад

    not even a chemist but love chemistry and the video

  • @front2760
    @front2760 Год назад

    Nice,hope to see others and maybe update on gold silver reduction please.

  • @196Stefan2
    @196Stefan2 Год назад

    "Urtitersubstanz" (in German), like Sodium Oxalate, Potassium Bromate, Arsenic (III)-oxyde, Amidosulfonic Acid etc.

  • @YuriHabadakas
    @YuriHabadakas Год назад

    Welcome back :)

  • @tyke0
    @tyke0 Год назад

    welcome brother

  • @jerrysanchez5453
    @jerrysanchez5453 Год назад

    I love how just a few drops of permanganate will color a entire gallon of water but it just disappears into solution in this reaction

  • @pepe1011lol
    @pepe1011lol Год назад +1

    Pls do a video to make potasium pergamate!

  • @redmadness265
    @redmadness265 Год назад

    Wake up babe, new NurdRage video

  • @neoputotyra
    @neoputotyra Год назад

    melting point apparatus also can be used to confirm the purity
    some supervisors rather fork out some hard earned money to buy standard reagents than making it this way

  • @miklov
    @miklov Год назад

    Thank you for the video! If I want to detect lead in alloys (possibly around 50% but would be neat to do lesser too), would sodium rhodizonate be a good pick? If I can't get it, is it feasible for an amateur to make it from inositol and nitric acid? I'd be grateful for any ideas for the lead detection, I want to make sure that if I import goods that they actually comply with RoHS, for instance by using unleaded solder.

  • @FaizCaliph
    @FaizCaliph Год назад

    Crazy looking back how fast it seems time went. Still remember watching the pig heart in liquid nitrogen like it was just a 2 years ago 😩

  • @koukouzee2923
    @koukouzee2923 Год назад

    Welcome back :D

  • @urgtuiop5455
    @urgtuiop5455 Год назад +1

    Big question. Can you tell me how to make a cheaper Evapo-rust substitute? Are there any commonly available components that could be used to make up a substitute?

  • @heisenbergstayouttamyterri1508

    After 2 months of no chems, it was time to go to lab!

  • @user-yw9mw9hv8o
    @user-yw9mw9hv8o Год назад

    There's a big analytical chemistry shaped gap in youtube chemistry, ngl, seeing this is pretty nice.

  • @kevinmartin7760
    @kevinmartin7760 10 месяцев назад

    Could the sodium oxalate be precipitated out using sodium chloride? Or would the accumulation of chloride ions, or the continuing presence of H+, interfere? Or is is just that the resulting solution of hydrochloric acid is more trouble to dispose of than the mostly-only-water left when using sodium hydroxide?

  • @munnavarbasha188
    @munnavarbasha188 Год назад

    Hi sir how to make anti iron coin or how to make 2.4 blub without set chemical reactions burning filmymeet

  • @napalmholocaust9093
    @napalmholocaust9093 Год назад

    How impure is the purple stuff? Just noticed it at the depot in the plumbing for water treatment or something.
    Can it stay purple as a pigment or is that conversion to black the only thing?
    Probably a bad idea to stain wood with it. Might burn a bit faster than you'd like if you had to run for yr life from it.

    • @LuisBorja1981
      @LuisBorja1981 Год назад +1

      Potassium permanganate can decompose to manganese dioxide, which is brown by itself and can be hard to notice in the middle of a dark purple solution. That colour is very intense and can be achieved even with fairly low concentrations of pot. permanganate.
      And wood staining with KMnO4 is not a good idea because it would react with the wood and decompose, again, to brown manganese dioxide... and, well, brown over wood doesn't look that great

  • @beryllium1932
    @beryllium1932 Год назад

    Thought you were going to oxidize ethylene glycol

  • @piranha031091
    @piranha031091 Год назад

    Huh, I didn't expect the sodium salt to be less soluble than the corresponding acid. That's unusual!

  • @jogandsp
    @jogandsp Год назад

    If you're doing the titration based on amount of permanganate added, wont you get inaccuracies from the manganese 2+ product catalyzing decomposition?

    • @bedlaskybedla6361
      @bedlaskybedla6361 Год назад

      No. On the other hand Mn2+ acts as catalyst for the reaction.

    • @jogandsp
      @jogandsp Год назад

      @@bedlaskybedla6361 that's what I just said

    • @bedlaskybedla6361
      @bedlaskybedla6361 Год назад

      @@jogandsp Mn2+ acts as catalyst for oxidation of H2O2 or Na2C2O4 by permanganate. In the case of oxalate it is actually advantageous to add some MnSO4 before the titration and heat it up. Otherwise the reaction is painfully slow.

    • @jogandsp
      @jogandsp Год назад

      @@bedlaskybedla6361 but Mn2+ would likely independently catalyze the decomposition of hydrogen peroxide. Most transition metal salts do to varying degrees.

    • @bedlaskybedla6361
      @bedlaskybedla6361 Год назад

      @@jogandsp That's true, but that reaction isn't that fast. Titration is done way before H2O2 can decompose to some measurable amount. Error by this reaction is insignificant.

  • @residentenigma7141
    @residentenigma7141 Год назад

    I wonder what it tastes like ?

  • @uglyweirdo1389
    @uglyweirdo1389 Год назад

    Hey hey!

  • @FlatEnough
    @FlatEnough Год назад

    It's a pity that you are not open for a discussion with Peter & Pete: your channel, and theirs, are the two most advanced chemistry channels in youtube, in my opinion. Both very practical, and with extensive experience.

  • @hanleypc
    @hanleypc Год назад

    Amazingly oxalic acid seems to have been banned here recently.

  • @Jawst
    @Jawst Год назад

    Is this the same stuff that gives you kidney stones !? How much would it take to put you at risk of getting kidney stones!?

  • @SpitefulAZ
    @SpitefulAZ Год назад

    Show us how to make potassium metal.
    Again.

  • @wissen5410
    @wissen5410 Год назад

    Uplode +2000%

  • @alvi_samu
    @alvi_samu Год назад

    How many brazilians are watching this video?

  • @krtm7231
    @krtm7231 10 месяцев назад

    :((( u shouldnt see brown color when doing the titration, ruins the result. add more Mn2+ ions or heat it up.

    • @NurdRage
      @NurdRage  10 месяцев назад

      i'm not doing the titration in this video, i'm making sodium oxalate.

  • @experimental_chemistry
    @experimental_chemistry Год назад

    Titration without a burette isn't very accurate...

  • @9daywonda
    @9daywonda Год назад

    Speak English?

  • @drmarine1771
    @drmarine1771 Год назад

    You're the best.

  • @kelvinpino4065
    @kelvinpino4065 Год назад

    NO NOTIFICATION WAS SENT YO ME!!! WTF RUclips!!!!!!!

  • @rickvandenberg
    @rickvandenberg Год назад

    I found this paper very interesting: nvlpubs.nist.gov/nistpubs/jres/15/jresv15n5p493_a1b.pdf