i guess that explains why at 3:17 he says he doesn't exspect same kind of behavior on a intel cpu but he doesn't bother testing or showing test results with a intel cpu....
@@Limbo26 AMD side, probably just beyond their scope of advertising ZEN. Linus side, probably to prevent any driver issues? I used a 5700XT before selling it earlier this year and it had a ton of issues with just regular Win 10. AMD drivers + Beta software is just asking for trouble lol.
those 2 linuses keep getting crazier day by day, old age no doubt, they could still retire gracefully, just say no to filming anything again, resist the urge
@@sandcrakes The eye transmits information to the brain, but some characteristics of the signal are lost or altered in the process. For example, the retina is capable of following lights that flash at a rapid rate. So, in conclusion, the higher Hz, the more frames we will be able to see, nevertheless of the 30-60 fps the human sees.
I feel like Intel might finally be waking up and trying to step up their game a bit knowing they actually have legitimate competition, and if not, surely this should send a clear message :P
Ryzen 5000 is almost entirely in stock, so its not like a complete waste. 5900X and 5950X have both gone down in price by $50 on amazon, 5600X, 5800X, and 5950X can all be ordered today, the 5900X looks like it has a two week back log but has the most drastic decrease in price.
@@joshj3369 To be fair, CPU's were out of stock for the most part of the last year and a half. At least for team red. I wasn't able to get a 5900x until a couple months ago
Interesting, although we still have at least several months before full release, if not longer. I'd like to see another comparison video once W11 goes gold.
As a guy who *just* upgraded to windows 10 from windows 7 this year, I can wait. Didn't see any difference whatsoever when I installed windows 10. Windows 11 will probably be the same.
@@evlfck With you on that sir. And I have no need to jump ship, Everything works as indented on 10 and runs great and will do for the next few years under full support, But somewhere in-between 1-2 years time is when I will make the jump as I have to eventually and that seems a sweet spot for maturity.
I swapped back from W11 a week ago, Valorant was unplayable. I got like 300 FPS no problem, but the second I moved the mouse, it dropped at least 100 FPS, often more causing suttering and making it unplayable. 2-3 patch notes back they said they tried to fixed this, but no. It's still the same for me. Not sure if this affects other games too or if it's a Valorant spesific issue.
I'm NOT impressed with the other sponsor, Nord. They have been caught not disclosing there server being hacked, and they are headquartered in the united states who's government is well known for data hording through the use of laws that prevent them from even disclosing when they have to give away your data. Plus their the biggest vpn provider, so their servers get blocked first anywhere that tries to block vpn's. Trust me when i say its worth the extra $ for a quality vpn like mullvad with ipv6 support and less crowded servers. By the time I had figured this out, I had already bought their cheap(in every way) 2 year plan.
@@chillhour6155 amd literally doesnt profit off the scalping. amd sells the gpu chip to the board partners the board partners build the gpu product the board partners sell the gpu product to retailers the retailers sell the product to us meaning the board partners and retailers are the ones doing a price markup and inturn profiting ltt even had a video about it
@@MrTeathyme unless they hike up the price of the silicon from source which make everyone along the value chain having to sell their parts at a higher price - Hardware Unboxed did talk about this too, they are corporation and like everyone else they hiked up price whenever they can
5:00 When LTT once again launches into talk about HDR, showing me how great HDR content is on my non HDR monitor while I instantly dismiss the idea of spending that much money on a monitor.
I have hdr on my TV and my tablet and despise it on both. It always causes me weird issues where black is grey on my oled and in general makes colors way too warm.
@@robertt9342 Suppose that makes sense. And it also feels like they sort of grew out of it at this point. It's not like any of them (unless a unknown staff member) could call anyone up and get a fair price. So while that sucks, it is what it is. It'd be cool if they could do regular "bang for the buck" videos though based on what hardware is currently attainable. They could dedicate just one guy to pick up the parts, so don't have to deal with the downsides there. And we'd still get videos about what kinds of deals you can get.
@@alexanderjohansson2671 I believe that was one of the main reasons they stated. They are all well known now so they can't be the unknown buyers that they used to be.
@@tj32408 it’s worse somehow than launch. Probably going to use W10 for as long as it’s supported. Then hopefully 11 is useable or the next windows version is.
LOL AMD finally came around and thank LTT for all the kind words over the past 2 years. They should do a verified actual gamer collab , that's gonna worth 10x the impact compare to Intel extreme upgrades.
it's really funny to me that microsoft neglected the PC for so long that steam could establish itself as THE PC game store, and now is doing such a bad job catching up that valve might even take the title of the gaming OS too.
@@norton9216 Yes, but valve will forever be remembered as the messiah of Linux gaming. The steam deck is going to start a shift in the market that Microsoft can't do anything to stop.
@@williamjohnson4193 I am not sure if it will make such a big shift, but what it will do is at least make developers treat Linux seriously rather than as "the other OS"
Microsoft could unironically make Windows 11 better for gaming by having some severely cut down Windows 11-G (G for Gaming). Windows 10 (and 11 for sure) are bloated and full of services that many users don't want or need (11's new widgets, 10's "news" feed, to name two).
That's what IT people do in their free time lol. I rather prefer the opposite approach of Linux, adding what you need when you need it rather than the way it works on windows, removing stuff there "just in case". Especially when it comes to background processes. Imagine Microsoft providing services for: - Audio and networking - Scheduling tasks (such as checking for updates once a day) - Anti malware - File indexing - Handling global keyboard shortcuts - Caching on RAM frequently used files - Plug and Play - Power management - System notifications - Very minimal system tasks (such as logging and crash dumping) - Probably I'm forgetting about something And ONLY those services running the entire time by default making everything else tasks explicitly started by the user? One can sure dream...
Would love if you had a reduced base version and everything else is just „flavour“ or plugins. And Windows will detect if you need something and ask if you want to install it. So basically Linux
my first pc gaming experience has started on windows 11, and I believe I've had more issues than I should have with the OS like programs not closing properly and other minor things. I'm considering starting from scratch on a debloated windows 10, Linus has a video on that
It's dreadful. Tried the 3 last dev releases. It's horrible. And currently, it's really slow. And I am using an Sabrent m.2 rocket with an AMD 3900x. And it runs like a bag of spanners.
@@marko2262 I suspect it will be sorted in the final release, but yes, the 3 I tried, where far from a pleasant experience. Luckily I have a snapshot of my windows 10 and can get that back on in 2 minutes.
@@williamjohnson4193 i do and you know exactly what i mean. and i' pretty sure windows is in a state that squeezes out every possible drop of performance your card can offer. you can't magically get 100 more fps because of a software update. you're still hardware limited.
Really I stuck with Windows 10 because I don't like the start menu and context menus in Windows 11. I wonder if Windows 11 is just an experiment to see if we like the new GUI. Well, I don't. I am used to classic versions of Windows like XP (even though I no longer use XP I prefer its GUI). I even like Windows 7 through 10 with the exception of 8.
With ExplorerPatcher you can completely control the Win11 start menu and task bar and restore Win10 functionality. I just switched to Win11 because it fixes the horrid multi-monitor window instability on resume in Win10 and I've had no problems at all even though my system is Ryzen based (5950X). Pleasantly surprised that I had no issues or performance hits in games. I've even seen an increase in my download speeds from 1.7mb to 2.3mb on Google Fiber!
I have to do three clicks just to rename something in Windows 11 (after one right click, I have to choose “more options”), who’s the smoothbrain that had the idea to implement that?
@@Konomi_io I'm an Arch user, I wouldn't recommend Manjaro (or Arch in general) to a Linux newcomer and I 100% wouldn't recommend it to a Windows user. For Valve to pull it off they'll have have to ditch the community & chaotic repos entirely and probably rely more on AUR where they can at least use PKGBUILDs to ensure things don't get stuck in dependency hell. Either that or they'll just do what they did with Debian based SteamOS, create their own repo and heavily curate anything offered officially to users through any package manager. I have a suspicion they'll just cheat and use flatpaks and snaps for pretty much everything though.
As a new linux user playing with and gaming on (Arch based) Garuda Linux, I think things might have been easier for them than it might seem, Arch based distributions aren't necessarily that intimidating, and even a n00b like me is already having a blast. I'm getting serious about moving my laptop and desktop over to Garuda linux as my next step after Windows 10, just need a large external drive to dump the windows files to and a NVME to act as the new boot drive for my desktop since the old 120gig ssd is going to be home to the lonely little Windows 10 VM
I'd love to see a comparison with input delay in games (both new and old). FPS isn't everything, and input delay is actually an issue on Windows 10 when not playing in native full screen.
@@TeenPerspektiva For streaming at least, it isn't always easy to capture games while playing in full screen, so sometimes borderless windowed (or just windowed in general) is actually necessary. And additionally there are hundreds of thousands of games that do not have native full screen as an option. A game taking up the full monitor visually is not inherently the same as a game running in native full screen. For example, a Flash game running in a browser would not register as full screen just because you hit F11 (not that Flash is really a thing anymore).
@@thelonelydekuscrub4817 Ehh, proton has really changed things. Some online games still have issues and won't let you past anti-cheat, but most offline games work fine. Some even work better on Linux, I think I even read that RDR2 runs a little faster on Linux than windows.
as someone with an all AMD system who’s favorite game just happens to hate multithreading and must be forced to run on physical cores as it is, this is huge news. thank you linus.
@@h3lblad3 Never before have a collection of semi-intelligent ASCII characters given the most advanced and powerful (depending on your definition of that word of course) consumer level CPUs the world has ever seen such a thorough beating. Granted I'm only running a 3600 at the moment but I OC'd the hell out of it because my cooling solution is unreasonably strong for a midrange CPU, but I've seen numerous CPUs that focus single threaded performance instead of multi-threaded and even they start to struggle sooner than one might expect.
You mean steamOS. That's already based on Linux, and uses Proton to run games with no native linux suport. Likely that Proton will get an update when steam deck is launched
SteamOS is just Linux with a newer version of Proton. So basically it will fair similar to a pure Linux PC with decent hardware, at least once this Proton version Valve has been working on releases for the general public.
@@aadisahni Yeah, but SteamOS 3 will be a huge overhaul. I have high hopes it'll be an awesome OS for a living room PC that you can operate just with a controller from the couch.
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@@ksnell No, quit selling off Linux, you guys are like telemarketers. Even if you did that, your information is still out there regardless, through other avenues.
If it’s like any of the previous versions I’ve experienced since windows 95, it will horribly suck at launch major compatibility issues etc but with continuous development and patching they’ll get it working pretty well right before windows 12 comes out
@@DemeDemetre Wrong. Windows 10 had gotten worse and worse over the years. Every fucking update is another useless feature, more spyware, more ways for you to give all of your money to Microsoft. They don't care about you or your user experience, only the illusion of it so that they can make as much money off of you as possible.
@@williamjohnson4193 The UI and everything has matured a lot overtime. W10 feels like a complete OS now, unlike the Chinese replica of Windows 8 it was back in the day.
They suck at launch because hardware/software developers generally don't put much effort into updating their products for compatibility with new operating systems until they are out since not many people upgrade right away. It isn't a flaw with the OS itself and is in most cases out of Microsofts hands. Windows ME and Vista are the only real exceptions to this as they were both very unstable at release and while ME never really got fix, Vista did after a few months. But by then it had built up such a bad reputation that no one wanted to touch it. This is what lead to the release of Windows 7, it was basically a reskinned optimized version of Windows Vista with a few new things implemented from the development of Windows 8 that was going on at the time. That is why these 3 OS's are fairly similar. Vista flopped so they made Windows 7 a half and half release incorporating aspects of Vista and 8 and pushed back the release of 8 which probably would have been "7" if Vista didn't bomb so hard initially.
RE Intro: Still waiting for Bill Gates as a playable Doom character. Installing new Windows in the first year of its life = being an unpaid tester for it.
I mean… if you want to ask for features and have your feedback heard, join Windows insider. As someone who has been one almost since the Windows 11 beta became (officially) available, I can attest that they actually listen to insiders for feedback.
Don't get your hopes up. I've been using 11 since 22000.51 and it still does the same thing. There are registry entries you need to modify to correct the window behavior when waking from sleep. I did a fresh install of windows 11 to make sure it wasn't old entries carrying over, and it's one of the reasons I switched too.
Not sure if that will change. On my system it upset me that because I have a TV and a monitor hooked up that Windows 10 always made my TV Display 1 and my main monitor Display 2 and depending where I plugged into my video card my TV would come up as the first display until I got to Windows which sucked if I needed to go to the system bios. If I tinkered with the HDMI ports though by changing where the displays plugged into the card I was able to get my main display to come up first but it was still listed as display 2 in Windows 10. When I tried Windows 11 I thought maybe they got rid of that and would make it so my main display was display 1 but it was the same thing on Windows 11.
Linus would make an awesome cartoon/animation character voice! Major film studios should totally contact him! I'd pay to see any movie with him as the voice actor!
To get round this issue you need to take the games out of the folder that Microsoft automatically loads the games too and create a new folder to load the games into. This then removes the security that GFWL introduces. Create a new folder called Games (or whatever you want) and install games to that folder. This will bypass GFWL security and allow you to play those games trouble free. This works for all games inc. Fallout 3, Bioshock, RE5, etc.
Now since windows 11 is out will we get a updated video? Im honestly curious to see the actual performance impacts between both OS’s on a 2060 GTX with a Ryzen 5 and intel i7 9700k cpu or equivalent in performance between operating systems.
@@olivetho The bots do constantly get banned. The thing is, there are always new bots. Also, I don't get how other "anti"-cheat like EAC or BE would improve TF2, which uses VAC (which already works).
finaly caved and got windows 11 after experiencing some network issues i havent had before. the update solved the network issues but only 2 hours after i got my first blue screen ever...
Rushing to 11 may be good for generic builds but for those of us using audio software through our 7.1 on board and other things doing so so fast could give broken results right now
I'm still using Win7 and I see no reason to upgrade to any higher OS yet, since everything still runs fine on my 10 year old game pc (upgraded gfx card to RTX2070 though).
@@powerpc6037 I'm glad I'm not the only one rocking an ancient hooptie of a PC. I'm running W10 because it's free and still getting security updates but prefer 7, and a Sandy Bridge i7 because I got it cheap used and still handles everything I need it to with a GTX 1070 because I think $400 should get you a higher-end card rather than something comparable to my 5 year old GPU.
For me, the one thing that invalidated this experiment was using drivers designed for Windows 10 on a Windows 11 system. Obviously this gives the Windows 11 system a disadvantage because the drivers aren't optimized for the system.
@@yungcoculus7309 well if u go then u gotta settle there, u moved into a new apartment and expected your old stuff to be sorted the way they were in your old hag
Since I'm looking more and more into switching to Linux than anything else, as Microsoft tries to get more and more control and data from me with Windows and Office. Gaming has been an issue, so I expected to run a dual boot for a long time. But with the progress on Proton and open drivers from AMD, I'm feeling positive it will work.
I think you should review the latest window 11 for us since the official launch, we need a latest information about the window 11 for us to make a better decision.
I know it's not a priority but if they add a performance mode of windows 11, beyond changing the power plan and some graphics settings. An actual cut-down mode that would require a restart. Not being bogged down by any unnecessary Windows processes.
No no, Have Patience pal. Once the sweet sweet anti cheat comes to linux, then it would be a hell of a comparison. We just need a little bit of patience for that to come out
@@lonttugamer2939 Exactly. Speaking of , once Anti-Cheat comes to Linux do you think there would be any reason to use WIndows ? (Other than Ofiice 365 of course)
@@r.g7261 and Adobe and Autodesk and other obscure softwares. There are those problems as well. But, if the market has shifted to 10% or more on Linux Desktop then I think those companies will start to support Linux as well.
honestly Linus, i ran the pre beta of win 11, while it was still in development. it ran great, but i noticed all my custom stuff was gone, like any additional task bars i may have made. also it's really weird too, because if you say had forza horizon 4 on win 10, but you uninstalled it before you upgraded to win 11. problem occurs when you try to re-download the program. win 11 won't let you. What happens is from what i've seen it scans you're microsoft account for any games you may have then automatically installs them for you. this is also any games for gamepass you may have. it didn't do it to my steam account. just the microsoft account. I'm back on win 10 now.
You are going to likely get better FPS and stability in Windows 11 when it launches. Not to mention direct storage access which Windows 10 doesn't support will be a game changer.
@@rubiconnn did you watch the video? windows 10 will now support direct storage. you'll still have to have an nvme drive and who knows what windows 11's new storage stack will contribute, but it'll still be faster without having to deal with any other weird potential issues. i can see myself updating to windows 11 once support for windows 10 ends but pretty much not until then.
8:34 Pretty sure most people only upgrade their operating system when it comes preinstalled on a new system or when their previous one was end-of-life'd 3 years ago and they've been hit with ransomware for the 5th time that month.
i'm not a gamer and i'm a linux user, but i do have windows installed for the occasional game (basically means it never gets booted cause i never game), but aren't the graphics on games that do run on linux significantly worse? i played gta 5 on linux and later on windows and the graphics in my view were significantly better.. might be that i just did something wrong.
@@supersilverhazeroker This is possibly true since most games are native to Windows and have some or no support for linux. Unless you are running windows through vm then of course it’s worse.
@@supersilverhazeroker it’s more likely that your GPU isn’t configured accurately under Linux or your system defaulted to lower visual settings in the game itself than the Windows version did.
Watching this video on Manjaro. Just switched from Windows 10 a week ago - had to jump through quite a number of hoops (after all, I am a self-proclaimed power user), but no regrets overall.
@Xclav I honestly don't understand why Manjaro gets so much heat. To me it's basically Arch but with a bit more work done for me ahead of time. And it's not like I'm In some sunk-cost fallacy either - I've been playing around with dozens of distros for several years now, just not using Linux as my daily driver. Manjaro was my final choice after very close contest between it, Fedora, Arch, SUSE, and the newest kid Garunda (or however it's spelled). I know some people just dislike rolling releases in general - okay fair enough - I prefer stable distros for mission critical work too; all my servers run RHEL/CentOS/Rocky for example. But for desktop use, the user will always be there to fix the issue in case an update breaks something (which let's be honest, happens significantly less often than haters claim they do). Plus you get cutting-edge software, which while theoretically less stable also contain the latest bug fixes, not to mention the newest features. That and AUR. It's quite literally the best source for getting niche software bar none. Anyways, I think Manjaro deserves a bit more love than people give it. It is a first-tier OS and I believe many users would be very happy with it.
I clicked on the video with the expectation of typing "Switch to Linux!" Having Linus beat me to it? LOL That's so awesome that Linus is finally taking Linux Gaming seriously and was that a bit of excitement I'm sensing? AWESOME!
@@NoneRain_ Valve and Google are no one? Linux is a much bigger deal for gaming than your average Windows gamer has a clue about, and it's only getting bigger
I updated the other day I have 16GB RAM, Nvidia Geforce GTX 1660 SUPER 6GB and an Intel Core i7 107k and I didn't really see a difference in performance the only thing it did do was change some of the sound properties to make sounds literally inaudible when turned away from the thing making the sound
@@norton9216 Alternative to dualboot,you can also do a VFIO setup,a Windows virtual machine with a graphic card passthrough,that way you can game without restarting the PC and the performance is near metal,check out SomeOrdinaryGamers VM videos to have an idea.
No it won't be. 99% of people who buy and use the Steam deck won't even know it's using Linux and everyone else won't care. People are buying a handheld gaming machine that's it. People aren't buying it to use an OS. Absolutely foolish to think people give any fucks about the OS it's using.
yes please anthony, we want to see how well steam decks arch performs vs win11. i think this is a good opportunity for linux to get more ppl onboard because win11 is so restrictive with older hardware.
You cant turn off Microsoft Virus and spyware in Windows11. On Windows 11 over 1500 exe files and 12000 dll files were trying to dial Israel CIA headquarter with my key strokes, videos I've watched, and websites i visited as well as my banking details. Windows 11 also stored my nearby SSID devices to 3D map where i am.
If people do start switching to linux then they'll have no choice. For the past 20+ years people have been trying to get more support for linux. It has gotten a lot better now days with AMD and NVIDIA official drivers for linux, but software support just isn't there for the games. One time I remember linux was being sold on netbooks until Microsoft realized that the market was giving linux a way in. MS then resurected their old windows XP and got manufacturers to install it. Another time I remember linux getting close was when HP said they would put it on all of their systems...shortly (maybe 1 year) after the CEO was removed. Steam machine was another good attempt to make linux mainstream and it helped, but no more steam machines.
"Windows 11 is best for gamers" is what they said when "Windows 95 is best for gamers" to try get as many people as they could to migrate from MS-DOS/Win3.1, they even had those demo disks full of games where the menu was a 3D spaceship interior you had to walk around in.
I suspect he's correct about the die to die communication slowing things down. Would be nice to see the test repeated with an 8 core AMD or Intel CPU to see if his hunch is correct.
he literally said it might not happen with an intel cpu, which makes it weird that he didnt show a comparison with an intel cpu to give us an objective look. but i guess it would be abit weird to do when they are sponsored by amd 😅
I really do hope you guys can get SteamOS 3 from Valve. Would love to see a video with performance comparisons between Win10/11 and SteamOS 3. I have already been gaming on Linux for a while now, but yeah the Anti-cheat such as EAC or Vanguard do get in the way all of the time. If Valve can find a way to get those working with Linux, then I would never have a reason for dual-booting windows anymore.
@@rezanugraha7144 Your option is assuming alot about the hardware, VM's on shaky hardware are bad enough on their own. let alone use for gaming which would require setting up GPU pass through which for a fact knocks the performance down. So those two combined would make a for a horrible gaming experience
I think everyone should just stick to windows, it is just so much simpler and having a whole bunch of other operating systems will just get very complicated.
@@karljuliuz thats not entirely true... The faster something can be put into vram the faster it can be rendered. It can also prevent stuttering in certain cases. Either way faster loading times are still a good benefit.
5:11 "Even with Microsoft's track record aside, you would hope that the next version of anything works better than the old one." Linus, this is a video about Microsoft. Making new versions worse than old versions isn't just their track record; it's their godlike talent.
Hey remember when Microsoft couldn't get anyone to switch to Vista, so they made it so Halo 2 needed you to update to Vista to play it ? I could see them doing something like making sure DirectX 13 whenever it comes out only working on Windows 11
Have you ever tried using Farming Simulator 22 as a test game, I know it’s not most popular game but it is up there. And it’s a very demanding game so running tests with it should be insightful.
lmao go full Linux. No more games, u gonna scratch your head just doing simple basic things like installing a Wi-Fi driver or other drivers lol. Linux still FAR behind.
He literally has a series of videos where Intel, which is a much larger company than AMD, gives them $5000 for his employees to mess around with, and you are impressed by a sponsored deal with AMD?
I didn't expect AMD to sponsor the video ngl, caught me off guard.
Ik l was like wait AMD is sponsoring you guys not like some software or peripheral for a PC . . . Ok then
I mean they already get sent a bunch of stuff by them it wouldn't surprise me
And they still used nvidia gpus for the benchmarks
i guess that explains why at 3:17 he says he doesn't exspect same kind of behavior on a intel cpu but he doesn't bother testing or showing test results with a intel cpu....
@@Limbo26
AMD side, probably just beyond their scope of advertising ZEN.
Linus side, probably to prevent any driver issues? I used a 5700XT before selling it earlier this year and it had a ton of issues with just regular Win 10. AMD drivers + Beta software is just asking for trouble lol.
"Thanks to AMD for sponsoring this episode!"
>Uses Nvidia GPUs in their testing.
This caught me off guard too
First thing I noticed, but it didn't cause me a second stroke.
Well he still used an AMD CPU
those 2 linuses keep getting crazier day by day, old age no doubt, they could still retire gracefully, just say no to filming anything again, resist the urge
And said that the legacy game would be faster on Intel. It just shows that Linus isn't biased
Mans really got sponsored directly by both Intel and AMD
Mans really did stull
I’m playing both sides, so I always come out on top.
It's like a custody battle between divorced parents
@@theawes0mesauce hahaha
@@Scarbrine bruh
Linus: “thanks for our sponsor AMD”
Also Linus: “We used Nvidia cards to experiment windows 11”
Doesnt amd also make cpu
@@theeclipsemaster they do both cpu and gpu
loyalty 0
AMD has crazy thread response, but Nvidia has way better video cards. I personally use a Ryzen cpu and RTX for video.
@@NorthmenStudios Same
'Remember Games for Windows Live?'
Man, I'm eating!
haha
Speaking of steaming piles of shit…
I could see this comment... man! I'm eating,
yeah for real, didn't that shit *always* never work without some workaround? lol
@@FusionC6 GTA IV on PC was broken for years because of Windows Live until Rockstar recently patched it out of the game.
Only 500 fps on csgo? Literally unplayable.
Its putrid really!!
Pathetic
Seriously though, monitors can mostly capture 240Hz.
A decrease of 100fps is barely to non noticeable
@@sandcrakes The eye transmits information to the brain, but some characteristics of the signal are lost or altered in the process. For example, the retina is capable of following lights that flash at a rapid rate. So, in conclusion, the higher Hz, the more frames we will be able to see, nevertheless of the 30-60 fps the human sees.
Lmao this. I fking play with 13 inch laptop, all settings minium 760p reso or something, 60-90fps depending on map
@@faermann bro copied a Forbes article
LTT has been sponsored by Intel so many times that it feels so weird seeing AMD pop up as a sponsor's name.
intel's going to disown him.
@@official_pol2198 can't get disowned if you already disowned them beforehand
Linus is 100pc aware of the backdoors in windows and intel chips but never ever warns people or talks about it.
I feel like Intel might finally be waking up and trying to step up their game a bit knowing they actually have legitimate competition, and if not, surely this should send a clear message :P
@@gerryadams2011 Every piece of software and hardware created EVER has a potential backdoor.
Linus: "As for how an older GPU fairs.." *Proceeds to use the GPU currently in my PC as an example*
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i have radeon hd 5450 :/
I have used integrated graphics my entire life.
I ahve a GTX 860m, lol
@@Gurj101 cringe
I play on microwave :/
I know LTT has been sponsored by AMD before but this one caught me so off guard, with chip shortages I was expecting something else I guess lol
yeah
Ryzen 5000 is almost entirely in stock, so its not like a complete waste. 5900X and 5950X have both gone down in price by $50 on amazon, 5600X, 5800X, and 5950X can all be ordered today, the 5900X looks like it has a two week back log but has the most drastic decrease in price.
@@tehbest everyone is thinking more about GPU shortage
@@joshj3369 To be fair, CPU's were out of stock for the most part of the last year and a half. At least for team red. I wasn't able to get a 5900x until a couple months ago
Their GPUs werent even in the video 😆
Interesting, although we still have at least several months before full release, if not longer. I'd like to see another comparison video once W11 goes gold.
I’m sure it will happen.
As a guy who *just* upgraded to windows 10 from windows 7 this year, I can wait. Didn't see any difference whatsoever when I installed windows 10. Windows 11 will probably be the same.
@@evlfck With you on that sir. And I have no need to jump ship, Everything works as indented on 10 and runs great and will do for the next few years under full support, But somewhere in-between 1-2 years time is when I will make the jump as I have to eventually and that seems a sweet spot for maturity.
I swapped back from W11 a week ago, Valorant was unplayable. I got like 300 FPS no problem, but the second I moved the mouse, it dropped at least 100 FPS, often more causing suttering and making it unplayable. 2-3 patch notes back they said they tried to fixed this, but no. It's still the same for me. Not sure if this affects other games too or if it's a Valorant spesific issue.
@@evlfck yo sorry if this is dumb question what is a distro tho
I’m impressed AMD did a sponsorship again when at this point when I see Linus face I just think AMD
I'm NOT impressed with the other sponsor, Nord.
They have been caught not disclosing there server being hacked, and they are headquartered in the united states who's government is well known for data hording through the use of laws that prevent them from even disclosing when they have to give away your data.
Plus their the biggest vpn provider, so their servers get blocked first anywhere that tries to block vpn's.
Trust me when i say its worth the extra $ for a quality vpn like mullvad with ipv6 support and less crowded servers.
By the time I had figured this out, I had already bought their cheap(in every way) 2 year plan.
They got all that extra cash from theyre scal..retailers though, so I'm not surprised
@@chillhour6155 amd literally doesnt profit off the scalping.
amd sells the gpu chip to the board partners
the board partners build the gpu product
the board partners sell the gpu product to retailers
the retailers sell the product to us
meaning the board partners and retailers are the ones doing a price markup and inturn profiting
ltt even had a video about it
@@MrTeathyme unless they hike up the price of the silicon from source which make everyone along the value chain having to sell their parts at a higher price - Hardware Unboxed did talk about this too, they are corporation and like everyone else they hiked up price whenever they can
@@nullvoid3545 Also looking at his surprised faced as he first introduce them "nordpass?" does makes ya wonder. I'm happy with PIA though.
"Damn, they really worked hard for us to use it"
-me on windows 7 using integrated graphics
I been there man
@@gianni3611 I wish i could still use 7
*Me crying on windows 7😭
Me on windows 10 with integrated graphics:
same can't even play D2
5:00 When LTT once again launches into talk about HDR, showing me how great HDR content is on my non HDR monitor while I instantly dismiss the idea of spending that much money on a monitor.
TRRRUEEEEEE
You often get more uniform/effective HDR on consoles.
I have a hdr screen and windows 11 it still sucks.. Everything looks dull and when using a citrix session my cursor disappears.
I have hdr on my TV and my tablet and despise it on both. It always causes me weird issues where black is grey on my oled and in general makes colors way too warm.
@@agodelianshock9422 same here, so I disabled HDR, as it wasnt paying off than it already looked good like for me.
Linus: This video is sponsored by AaMD
Also Linus: Uses an Nvidia GPU
To be fair tho even amd uses Nvidia gpus
Aye em di
The video isn't sponsored by amd. They only bought a sponsor spot
I mean, when benchmarking, you don't want your GPU to be a bottleneck, so they got the best of the GPUs
But a ryzen cpu!
When are you guys bringing scrapyard wars back? I loved that series!
They announced on the wan show a while back that they were calling it off for good. Sad to see it go, I enjoyed watching those
Pandemic plus high prices don't usually turn out well.
Too bad they are cancelling it. Seems like a great to competition between members of the staff.
@@robertt9342 Suppose that makes sense. And it also feels like they sort of grew out of it at this point. It's not like any of them (unless a unknown staff member) could call anyone up and get a fair price. So while that sucks, it is what it is.
It'd be cool if they could do regular "bang for the buck" videos though based on what hardware is currently attainable. They could dedicate just one guy to pick up the parts, so don't have to deal with the downsides there. And we'd still get videos about what kinds of deals you can get.
used markets been fucked in the area since
@@alexanderjohansson2671 I believe that was one of the main reasons they stated. They are all well known now so they can't be the unknown buyers that they used to be.
I usually wait about a year to upgrade to the new windows. By then, most of the major bugs and security holes have been patched out.
Nice
@@tj32408 it’s worse somehow than launch. Probably going to use W10 for as long as it’s supported. Then hopefully 11 is useable or the next windows version is.
"You would expect the next version of something to be better"
*core i9 11900k laughing nervously*
*Sweating intenses*
*Temperature rapidly increases*
Internal temperatures rising
And all the temps won’t recede
Have been watching this man for 4 years, still can't expect his sponsor segways.
Pathetic
@@agambansal902 fax
segways* :)
today i learnt its not segway
So I've been misspelling 'segue' as 'Segway' this whole time. Embarrassing!
LOL AMD finally came around and thank LTT for all the kind words over the past 2 years. They should do a verified actual gamer collab , that's gonna worth 10x the impact compare to Intel extreme upgrades.
They did a Verified actual gamer collab already
could we get an update on this soon?
it's really funny to me that microsoft neglected the PC for so long that steam could establish itself as THE PC game store, and now is doing such a bad job catching up that valve might even take the title of the gaming OS too.
@@wolfgangzeintl6425 Yeah but it'll be on a lot of Linux distros.
@@norton9216 Yes, but valve will forever be remembered as the messiah of Linux gaming. The steam deck is going to start a shift in the market that Microsoft can't do anything to stop.
@@williamjohnson4193 I am not sure if it will make such a big shift, but what it will do is at least make developers treat Linux seriously rather than as "the other OS"
@@norton9216 Jenga 500 got you good.
Did you use Linux? It's terrible
When there's a sponsor but it's not Raid: Shadow Legends:
It is... acceptable
Or skillshare or squarespace lol
@@christianbennett6970 or any vpn
nice
altho ur pfp
is cursed
@@thelegendarypoglin fr it's starting to get annoying the talking points of all these sponsor is getting burned in my mind
Microsoft could unironically make Windows 11 better for gaming by having some severely cut down Windows 11-G (G for Gaming). Windows 10 (and 11 for sure) are bloated and full of services that many users don't want or need (11's new widgets, 10's "news" feed, to name two).
Yes that’s a god idea
Unfortunately they will never do that, only lip service with regards to PC gaming support
That's what IT people do in their free time lol.
I rather prefer the opposite approach of Linux, adding what you need when you need it rather than the way it works on windows, removing stuff there "just in case". Especially when it comes to background processes.
Imagine Microsoft providing services for:
- Audio and networking
- Scheduling tasks (such as checking for updates once a day)
- Anti malware
- File indexing
- Handling global keyboard shortcuts
- Caching on RAM frequently used files
- Plug and Play
- Power management
- System notifications
- Very minimal system tasks (such as logging and crash dumping)
- Probably I'm forgetting about something
And ONLY those services running the entire time by default making everything else tasks explicitly started by the user? One can sure dream...
Disabling services doesn't provide lots of performance benefits, if at all. You disable them manually and check for yourself.
Would love if you had a reduced base version and everything else is just „flavour“ or plugins. And Windows will detect if you need something and ask if you want to install it. So basically Linux
my first pc gaming experience has started on windows 11, and I believe I've had more issues than I should have with the OS like programs not closing properly and other minor things. I'm considering starting from scratch on a debloated windows 10, Linus has a video on that
lmao
If i now the things happens to my laptop after upgrading i'd rather choose to eat horse shit than upgrading
I'll probably hold off on Windows 11 on my gaming PC until it's improved after launch. Excited to get it right away on my school laptop though
It's dreadful. Tried the 3 last dev releases. It's horrible. And currently, it's really slow. And I am using an Sabrent m.2 rocket with an AMD 3900x. And it runs like a bag of spanners.
@@PaulAnom2dogs slow ? Hmmmmm on my 1600x runs pretty good actually
@@marko2262 I suspect it will be sorted in the final release, but yes, the 3 I tried, where far from a pleasant experience. Luckily I have a snapshot of my windows 10 and can get that back on in 2 minutes.
@@marko2262 runs fine for me too. And I’m definitely on the side where I expect snappy performance.
@@PaulAnom2dogs why do we think you full of shit? bet you have a junk pc if not a junk laptop, or worse a console
Ah yes 1 extra fps is what I wanted all those years.
It's like a dream come true
well software can't make your hardware better. better start saving some money boy
@@Snafuuu but software can make your software better.
@@Snafuuu Do you have the slightest idea how wrong you are?
@@williamjohnson4193 i do and you know exactly what i mean. and i' pretty sure windows is in a state that squeezes out every possible drop of performance your card can offer. you can't magically get 100 more fps because of a software update. you're still hardware limited.
"Windows 95 is better"
Me: No shit.
As an OG 80s baby I'd be down to going back to the old DOS gaming days
It's 9.5 times better than windows 10
Really I stuck with Windows 10 because I don't like the start menu and context menus in Windows 11. I wonder if Windows 11 is just an experiment to see if we like the new GUI. Well, I don't. I am used to classic versions of Windows like XP (even though I no longer use XP I prefer its GUI). I even like Windows 7 through 10 with the exception of 8.
which windows 10 you use my friend?
With ExplorerPatcher you can completely control the Win11 start menu and task bar and restore Win10 functionality. I just switched to Win11 because it fixes the horrid multi-monitor window instability on resume in Win10 and I've had no problems at all even though my system is Ryzen based (5950X). Pleasantly surprised that I had no issues or performance hits in games. I've even seen an increase in my download speeds from 1.7mb to 2.3mb on Google Fiber!
I have to do three clicks just to rename something in Windows 11 (after one right click, I have to choose “more options”), who’s the smoothbrain that had the idea to implement that?
A pothead smoking rat poison
Windows 8 is still fine with classic shell.
I'm actually more excited to see Linux to run all of my games than seeing Windows 11 now.
Use wine , proton, etc.
They don't affect performance seeing linux already making games faster
I'd love to, but I have games that has the Anti Cheat nProtect so I still just can't switch to it just yet unfortunately.
That's the power an Anthony can have.
I switch 100% to Linux years ago. Gaming on Linux is great.
@@evergaolbird Just go full Mutahar and spin a windows 10 hyperV VM inside windows 10 VM on kvm linux hypervisor
I cannot wait to see SteamOS 3.0 in the flesh, I cannot fathom what Valve has done to Arch to make it consumer friendly.
Well, if anyone can, Valve can.
i mean manjaro made arch user friendly... well it did, apparently its not so user friendly anymore
@@Konomi_io I'm an Arch user, I wouldn't recommend Manjaro (or Arch in general) to a Linux newcomer and I 100% wouldn't recommend it to a Windows user. For Valve to pull it off they'll have have to ditch the community & chaotic repos entirely and probably rely more on AUR where they can at least use PKGBUILDs to ensure things don't get stuck in dependency hell. Either that or they'll just do what they did with Debian based SteamOS, create their own repo and heavily curate anything offered officially to users through any package manager.
I have a suspicion they'll just cheat and use flatpaks and snaps for pretty much everything though.
As a new linux user playing with and gaming on (Arch based) Garuda Linux, I think things might have been easier for them than it might seem, Arch based distributions aren't necessarily that intimidating, and even a n00b like me is already having a blast.
I'm getting serious about moving my laptop and desktop over to Garuda linux as my next step after Windows 10, just need a large external drive to dump the windows files to and a NVME to act as the new boot drive for my desktop since the old 120gig ssd is going to be home to the lonely little Windows 10 VM
Artix has desktop options that are still very minimal, and it's based on Arch. Doesn't have all the Arch repos enabled by default though
I'd love to see a comparison with input delay in games (both new and old). FPS isn't everything, and input delay is actually an issue on Windows 10 when not playing in native full screen.
Facts
Ok but why wouldnt you play in native fullscreen? This is a genuine question.
@@TeenPerspektiva For streaming at least, it isn't always easy to capture games while playing in full screen, so sometimes borderless windowed (or just windowed in general) is actually necessary. And additionally there are hundreds of thousands of games that do not have native full screen as an option. A game taking up the full monitor visually is not inherently the same as a game running in native full screen. For example, a Flash game running in a browser would not register as full screen just because you hit F11 (not that Flash is really a thing anymore).
@@TeenPerspektiva For the easy alt-tab. Some games are jank with alt-tabbing.
If linux could effectively remove mouse smoothing, change liftoff range and acceleration. I would switch.
And you just reminded me why I got annoyed with Linux last time
I have no clue if this is true because I don’t use Linux but I heard they can’t run most steam games. Is that true?
You can remove mouse smoothing on linux very easily, just change pointer acceleration profile to "flat" (at least on KDE) and mouse smoothing is gone
@@thelonelydekuscrub4817 Ehh, proton has really changed things. Some online games still have issues and won't let you past anti-cheat, but most offline games work fine. Some even work better on Linux, I think I even read that RDR2 runs a little faster on Linux than windows.
You can see the happiness on Linus's face when he does the sponsor message.
$$$
I'd be smiling at $100,000 one liners
The feeling of incoming cash
Straight cash baybee
Dem cash
as someone with an all AMD system who’s favorite game just happens to hate multithreading and must be forced to run on physical cores as it is, this is huge news. thank you linus.
Ah yes, Dwarf Fortress.
@@h3lblad3 Never before have a collection of semi-intelligent ASCII characters given the most advanced and powerful (depending on your definition of that word of course) consumer level CPUs the world has ever seen such a thorough beating. Granted I'm only running a 3600 at the moment but I OC'd the hell out of it because my cooling solution is unreasonably strong for a midrange CPU, but I've seen numerous CPUs that focus single threaded performance instead of multi-threaded and even they start to struggle sooner than one might expect.
@@ladams391 stop!!!
I'd really like to see how Steam's Deck OS would fair against Win 11 or 10. Definitely would be an epic battle!
You mean steamOS. That's already based on Linux, and uses Proton to run games with no native linux suport. Likely that Proton will get an update when steam deck is launched
SteamOS is just Linux with a newer version of Proton. So basically it will fair similar to a pure Linux PC with decent hardware, at least once this Proton version Valve has been working on releases for the general public.
@@aadisahni Yeah, but SteamOS 3 will be a huge overhaul. I have high hopes it'll be an awesome OS for a living room PC that you can operate just with a controller from the couch.
@@TheSUPERWIND2023 They don't want it, it's just possible.
@@TheSUPERWIND2023 no my guy
A year later and I’m still getting the sudden drops in FPS
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@Anna nobody cares
It would be interesting to know how telemetry is handled in Windows 11. Seeing how it was such a big deal with Windows 10 on release.
telemetery?
It's only going to get worse. Data collection pays. 🤑
Finally a comment thats not about sponsors, I really need the comments opinions. so your the first.
@@SwanChairUh Yup. If you value your data/privacy, use linux.
@@ksnell No, quit selling off Linux, you guys are like telemarketers. Even if you did that, your information is still out there regardless, through other avenues.
The steam deck makes Linux gaming far more viable in the future, and a far more appealing option than Windows 11.
xD
720p 30fps
lol
@@starrymohannad oh no , the pc master is here
You mean there's a way to hook up a video card? 🤔
2:44 i see a lot of middle fingers
If it’s like any of the previous versions I’ve experienced since windows 95, it will horribly suck at launch major compatibility issues etc but with continuous development and patching they’ll get it working pretty well right before windows 12 comes out
@@DemeDemetre Which it was the same as Windows 10.
@@DemeDemetre Wrong. Windows 10 had gotten worse and worse over the years. Every fucking update is another useless feature, more spyware, more ways for you to give all of your money to Microsoft. They don't care about you or your user experience, only the illusion of it so that they can make as much money off of you as possible.
Yeah, I think I'll continue my strategy that has worked well since Windows 3.1: skip every other new Windows. So, can't wait for Windows 12.
@@williamjohnson4193 The UI and everything has matured a lot overtime. W10 feels like a complete OS now, unlike the Chinese replica of Windows 8 it was back in the day.
They suck at launch because hardware/software developers generally don't put much effort into updating their products for compatibility with new operating systems until they are out since not many people upgrade right away. It isn't a flaw with the OS itself and is in most cases out of Microsofts hands. Windows ME and Vista are the only real exceptions to this as they were both very unstable at release and while ME never really got fix, Vista did after a few months. But by then it had built up such a bad reputation that no one wanted to touch it. This is what lead to the release of Windows 7, it was basically a reskinned optimized version of Windows Vista with a few new things implemented from the development of Windows 8 that was going on at the time. That is why these 3 OS's are fairly similar. Vista flopped so they made Windows 7 a half and half release incorporating aspects of Vista and 8 and pushed back the release of 8 which probably would have been "7" if Vista didn't bomb so hard initially.
RE Intro: Still waiting for Bill Gates as a playable Doom character.
Installing new Windows in the first year of its life = being an unpaid tester for it.
It's a free download, so there's that.
I mean… if you want to ask for features and have your feedback heard, join Windows insider. As someone who has been one almost since the Windows 11 beta became (officially) available, I can attest that they actually listen to insiders for feedback.
You're not a tech bro if you dont risk all your data.
@@raracool6531 I mean if your insider you gotta enable literally every tracking option
You know people sign up to be testers for free, there is a whole initiative that Microsoft runs. "Windows Insider" sound familiars?
I’d love for Steam to give there OS for use… I mean it just promotes their store anyway, I’m down for that for an old PC turned console
I'm pretty sure they'll make it available for the public when the Steam Deck launches.
They said they’ll release it like SteamOS 2.0 but probably waiting till the first steam decks are received
oh boy oh boy time to set up a duel boot XD
“so they can finally make you link your microsoft account” truer words have never been spoken
Might be worth upgrading just so my displayport screens don't rearrange everything when the computer wakes up from sleep.
I might have to upgrade so my display actually turns on after waking up from sleep.
Don't get your hopes up. I've been using 11 since 22000.51 and it still does the same thing. There are registry entries you need to modify to correct the window behavior when waking from sleep. I did a fresh install of windows 11 to make sure it wasn't old entries carrying over, and it's one of the reasons I switched too.
That has never happened to me lol
@@Hotrod3 This Right Here! 😆😆, Even On Windows 7, I Have These Issue's! 😂😂
Not sure if that will change. On my system it upset me that because I have a TV and a monitor hooked up that Windows 10 always made my TV Display 1 and my main monitor Display 2 and depending where I plugged into my video card my TV would come up as the first display until I got to Windows which sucked if I needed to go to the system bios. If I tinkered with the HDMI ports though by changing where the displays plugged into the card I was able to get my main display to come up first but it was still listed as display 2 in Windows 10.
When I tried Windows 11 I thought maybe they got rid of that and would make it so my main display was display 1 but it was the same thing on Windows 11.
I’d be more curious to see the 1060 test with settings that we’d actually use. Prob all High or a mix of Med-High. Def not Ultra…
It's not a GPU review...
Ill upgrade my 1060 when ps6 comes out.
@@mrmagoo756 that means never?
@@menantumakawak maybe
@@aweigh1010 Right at 7min mark on this video Linus says that MS will give Direct Storage to Win10 as well cause of huge user backlash...
Linus would make an awesome cartoon/animation character voice! Major film studios should totally contact him! I'd pay to see any movie with him as the voice actor!
He already makes more then the movie industry would want to pay him🤪
there is already a deepfake copy of his voice
I like how Linus comments on his own video as Mike J
Anime
If I ever get to make cartoons someday I’d definitely reach out to him for voice work.
"Thanks to AMD for sponsoring this video"
-> uses nvidia gpus
-> mentions that amd processors have a problem intel doesnt
A suggestion: Please re do these tests if you can, once the update is official. Maybe they would've patched?
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GFWL refuses to be forgotten, as it still cripples games that have it built in.
@LadiesMainEvent Resident Evil 5, Bioshock 2 😔
To get round this issue you need to take the games out of the folder that Microsoft automatically loads the games too and create a new folder to load the games into. This then removes the security that GFWL introduces.
Create a new folder called Games (or whatever you want) and install games to that folder. This will bypass GFWL security and allow you to play those games trouble free. This works for all games inc. Fallout 3, Bioshock, RE5, etc.
Whoever sneaked that drum and bass tune for the background, needs a raise.
Do you know the id for it?
Now since windows 11 is out will we get a updated video? Im honestly curious to see the actual performance impacts between both OS’s on a 2060 GTX with a Ryzen 5 and intel i7 9700k cpu or equivalent in performance between operating systems.
2:55 "Spreading the load on your multicore cpu" - we get you Linus 👌
If it truely was the "best Windows for gamers", it would let me move my taskbar to second monitor.
why cant I like this more than once
Just put your second monitor as your main one and it will have the taskbar
Rip 😢
@@TheBaxes Then I would have to set every game I want to play on my "main" monitor to that display manually, assuming they even have the option.
Well, Linux lets me do this without a big fuss. Just tell it to go on the second monitor and there it stays...
Yoo they’re fixing the anti-cheat problem? MCC on Linux would be awesome.
forget mcc, this might actually make TF2 playable again since it's been plagued by linux-run bots which valve doesn't seem to care about.
@@olivetho The bots do constantly get banned. The thing is, there are always new bots.
Also, I don't get how other "anti"-cheat like EAC or BE would improve TF2, which uses VAC (which already works).
finaly caved and got windows 11 after experiencing some network issues i havent had before. the update solved the network issues but only 2 hours after i got my first blue screen ever...
-2021: Windows is the best for gaming
2021+: The best Windows ever for gaming
Linux-Gaming-Rig: I can smell their fear
I'm sticking with W10 until it's a bit developed, dont wanna lose stuff to bugs
Honestly, I've had a more stable experience with win 11 this far over win 10.
@@matthewcentonze3660 same
Rushing to 11 may be good for generic builds but for those of us using audio software through our 7.1 on board and other things doing so so fast could give broken results right now
I'm still using Win7 and I see no reason to upgrade to any higher OS yet, since everything still runs fine on my 10 year old game pc (upgraded gfx card to RTX2070 though).
@@powerpc6037 I'm glad I'm not the only one rocking an ancient hooptie of a PC. I'm running W10 because it's free and still getting security updates but prefer 7, and a Sandy Bridge i7 because I got it cheap used and still handles everything I need it to with a GTX 1070 because I think $400 should get you a higher-end card rather than something comparable to my 5 year old GPU.
Literally everyone: I can't believe AMD sponsored this video!!!!!
Me: Notices Linus's confusion of Nordpass
What?
For me, the one thing that invalidated this experiment was using drivers designed for Windows 10 on a Windows 11 system. Obviously this gives the Windows 11 system a disadvantage because the drivers aren't optimized for the system.
Wasn’t that the whole point of the video to see if it was worth to stay or go?
@@yungcoculus7309 well if u go then u gotta settle there, u moved into a new apartment and expected your old stuff to be sorted the way they were in your old hag
im pretty sure they use the same drivers. but i could be wrong.
Late-2022 and W11 have too much bugs if u use your pc for working.
those were the best options at the time, and the newest they had...not their fault that better drivers werent out yet
Since I'm looking more and more into switching to Linux than anything else, as Microsoft tries to get more and more control and data from me with Windows and Office. Gaming has been an issue, so I expected to run a dual boot for a long time. But with the progress on Proton and open drivers from AMD, I'm feeling positive it will work.
You can't dual boot from Win11 as secure boot destroys that.
@@Vibration_Crew fairly certain you can, you just have to sign linux with the windows keys iirc
@SpyShadow28 Facts.
@SpyShadow28 wait, what is tpm?
We would need a version of this video for low end and top end gear two. And throw a few linux distros into the mix
4:13 "We chose the GTX 1060"
Me who owns one since release: *YES! YES! YES!*
nice choice, i picked an rx 580 instead of that because finewine and more vram for thicc textures.
@@detrwfegstas3983 Same 😊
Poo poo card in 2021
@@zomberkay enjoy your scalper prices kiddo
@@detrwfegstas3983 this kiddo bought in black friday and scalped the scalpers
I think you should review the latest window 11 for us since the official launch, we need a latest information about the window 11 for us to make a better decision.
they might do but they get advantage of using stuff early so accept it and wait :P
I know it's not a priority but if they add a performance mode of windows 11, beyond changing the power plan and some graphics settings. An actual cut-down mode that would require a restart. Not being bogged down by any unnecessary Windows processes.
At that point you don't want Windows.
@@norton9216 And still don't have AAA games that run natively on Linux.
@@killertruth186 give it a few months
@@norton9216 Have you waited until Steam Machines back in the day?
@@Konomi_io I doubt it would be "flawless" at day one.
I would have loved to have seen a comparison to Pop_OS! or Manjaro at the end to get a decent comparison vs Linux
No no, Have Patience pal. Once the sweet sweet anti cheat comes to linux, then it would be a hell of a comparison. We just need a little bit of patience for that to come out
@@r.g7261 Agreed. We gotta wait until there's an even fighting ground.
@@lonttugamer2939 Exactly. Speaking of , once Anti-Cheat comes to Linux do you think there would be any reason to use WIndows ? (Other than Ofiice 365 of course)
@@r.g7261 nope
@@r.g7261 and Adobe and Autodesk and other obscure softwares.
There are those problems as well. But, if the market has shifted to 10% or more on Linux Desktop then I think those companies will start to support Linux as well.
Me who plays Minecraft on an IPad Air 2:
“Well, well, well, I guess we’re going to find out”
this was me 6yrs ago lmaooo
@Anna haha good one 🤣
@Anna 😍
honestly Linus, i ran the pre beta of win 11, while it was still in development. it ran great, but i noticed all my custom stuff was gone, like any additional task bars i may have made. also it's really weird too, because if you say had forza horizon 4 on win 10, but you uninstalled it before you upgraded to win 11. problem occurs when you try to re-download the program. win 11 won't let you. What happens is from what i've seen it scans you're microsoft account for any games you may have then automatically installs them for you. this is also any games for gamepass you may have. it didn't do it to my steam account. just the microsoft account. I'm back on win 10 now.
Real talk: HDR isn't enough to make me switch to W11. It barely makes a difference. FPS and stability in games is more important to me than anything.
Well, stability it's the more important of them all.
Stable 25 FPS is better that a freeze were and there.
@@youkofoxy W10 is plenty stable for me
You are going to likely get better FPS and stability in Windows 11 when it launches. Not to mention direct storage access which Windows 10 doesn't support will be a game changer.
@cpong Let's hope so. It seems they have more optimizations to make.
@@rubiconnn did you watch the video? windows 10 will now support direct storage. you'll still have to have an nvme drive and who knows what windows 11's new storage stack will contribute, but it'll still be faster without having to deal with any other weird potential issues.
i can see myself updating to windows 11 once support for windows 10 ends but pretty much not until then.
Anyone remember when M$ said that windows 10 would be the last OS release?
Atleast it is the longest gap between Windows releases.
But then they cant sell it every few years
So what?
@@GerardoBuenrostro So... they lied.
@@kevinkindororo6286 For existing users 11 will be free like 10 was. Everone else will obviously have to buy it first.
8:34 Pretty sure most people only upgrade their operating system when it comes preinstalled on a new system or when their previous one was end-of-life'd 3 years ago and they've been hit with ransomware for the 5th time that month.
Or they still have the hype from announcement
LTT: "We only got 600 fps on CS:GO
Linus: **throws pc in the garbage can in the backyard**
If Valve can sort out the anti-cheat software in Linux for games like PUBG, I'll be intalling Linux the instant I know it works.
Wait Pubg is using battleeye right? I think they’ll solve that when the deck launches
I'd like to see it for good games.
i'm not a gamer and i'm a linux user, but i do have windows installed for the occasional game (basically means it never gets booted cause i never game), but aren't the graphics on games that do run on linux significantly worse? i played gta 5 on linux and later on windows and the graphics in my view were significantly better.. might be that i just did something wrong.
@@supersilverhazeroker This is possibly true since most games are native to Windows and have some or no support for linux.
Unless you are running windows through vm then of course it’s worse.
@@supersilverhazeroker it’s more likely that your GPU isn’t configured accurately under Linux or your system defaulted to lower visual settings in the game itself than the Windows version did.
Watching this video on Manjaro. Just switched from Windows 10 a week ago - had to jump through quite a number of hoops (after all, I am a self-proclaimed power user), but no regrets overall.
Nice swing another person switching to Manjaro. I really like to too
I tried and will try again, but I never seem to be able to get sound working.
@Xclav I honestly don't understand why Manjaro gets so much heat. To me it's basically Arch but with a bit more work done for me ahead of time. And it's not like I'm In some sunk-cost fallacy either - I've been playing around with dozens of distros for several years now, just not using Linux as my daily driver. Manjaro was my final choice after very close contest between it, Fedora, Arch, SUSE, and the newest kid Garunda (or however it's spelled).
I know some people just dislike rolling releases in general - okay fair enough - I prefer stable distros for mission critical work too; all my servers run RHEL/CentOS/Rocky for example. But for desktop use, the user will always be there to fix the issue in case an update breaks something (which let's be honest, happens significantly less often than haters claim they do).
Plus you get cutting-edge software, which while theoretically less stable also contain the latest bug fixes, not to mention the newest features. That and AUR. It's quite literally the best source for getting niche software bar none.
Anyways, I think Manjaro deserves a bit more love than people give it. It is a first-tier OS and I believe many users would be very happy with it.
I clicked on the video with the expectation of typing "Switch to Linux!" Having Linus beat me to it? LOL That's so awesome that Linus is finally taking Linux Gaming seriously and was that a bit of excitement I'm sensing? AWESOME!
Yo, no one is taking LInux Gaming seriously (yet), but I feel you
@@NoneRain_ I think The seriousness is building up
@@NoneRain_ Valve and Google are no one? Linux is a much bigger deal for gaming than your average Windows gamer has a clue about, and it's only getting bigger
@@mgord9518 They're talking about the general public
Yes sir yes sir
I updated the other day I have 16GB RAM, Nvidia Geforce GTX 1660 SUPER 6GB and an Intel Core i7 107k and I didn't really see a difference in performance the only thing it did do was change some of the sound properties to make sounds literally inaudible when turned away from the thing making the sound
The Steam Deck is gonna be the push Linux gaming needs
@@norton9216 Since Microsoft introduced WSL I haven’t had the need to dual boot.
@@norton9216 Alternative to dualboot,you can also do a VFIO setup,a Windows virtual machine with a graphic card passthrough,that way you can game without restarting the PC and the performance is near metal,check out SomeOrdinaryGamers VM videos to have an idea.
@@norton9216 Oh yeah Valorant you are right :/,but with VFIO you don't need a second GPU though,you can do it with 1 GPU.
No it won't be. 99% of people who buy and use the Steam deck won't even know it's using Linux and everyone else won't care. People are buying a handheld gaming machine that's it. People aren't buying it to use an OS. Absolutely foolish to think people give any fucks about the OS it's using.
@@SuperVista64 kvms are great
I use it to play yakuza on win10. Bare metal performance
The .160 beta version made my 3080 drop to around 40%-50% usage at times. So if anyone's thinking of trying 11 out, keep this in mind
I love how after tons of analysis on ryzen 5000 cpus and 6000 gpus linus just drops a 10 sec sponsorship where he says they're so fucking incredible
we need an updated video on this
But for ADL's big/small cores, that's schedule isnt good either... E core should not get scheduled for game's threads
yes please anthony, we want to see how well steam decks arch performs vs win11. i think this is a good opportunity for linux to get more ppl onboard because win11 is so restrictive with older hardware.
I really want to see that new SteamOS! I'd switch to that in a heartbeat.
You'd SWITCH to that?
@@mario_adv2nture lmao
Its gonna be shit lmfao
@@ineedcoffee2575 anything is better then window
You cant turn off Microsoft Virus and spyware in Windows11. On Windows 11 over 1500 exe files and 12000 dll files were trying to dial Israel CIA headquarter with my key strokes, videos I've watched, and websites i visited as well as my banking details. Windows 11 also stored my nearby SSID devices to 3D map where i am.
Game Developers should start adding more optimization and support for linux
more performance and less microsoft dictatorship
If people do start switching to linux then they'll have no choice. For the past 20+ years people have been trying to get more support for linux. It has gotten a lot better now days with AMD and NVIDIA official drivers for linux, but software support just isn't there for the games. One time I remember linux was being sold on netbooks until Microsoft realized that the market was giving linux a way in. MS then resurected their old windows XP and got manufacturers to install it. Another time I remember linux getting close was when HP said they would put it on all of their systems...shortly (maybe 1 year) after the CEO was removed. Steam machine was another good attempt to make linux mainstream and it helped, but no more steam machines.
Game Developers will start to care when the user base start to grow.... 1% of Steam users is not a gaming changing to devs invest time and money into.
How do you keep your kitchen so clean? That’s amazing.
Someone is gonna get wooooshed here
It is rendered, they will post a video soon how they rendered kitchen and Linus using nvidia AI tech
why the Kitchen studio?
why not do more themes, sauna studio? waterblock on the toilettes studio set?
It's not a real kitchen, it's only a set for filming.
@@Gramini r/whoooosh
I feel like you could also argue the disparity could be due to the lack of optimization since it's still a "new" OS.
"Thanks to AMD for sponsoring this episode!"
>Uses Nvidia GPUs in their testing. wao nice
"Windows 11 is best for gamers" is what they said when "Windows 95 is best for gamers" to try get as many people as they could to migrate from MS-DOS/Win3.1, they even had those demo disks full of games where the menu was a 3D spaceship interior you had to walk around in.
I suspect he's correct about the die to die communication slowing things down. Would be nice to see the test repeated with an 8 core AMD or Intel CPU to see if his hunch is correct.
he literally said it might not happen with an intel cpu, which makes it weird that he didnt show a comparison with an intel cpu to give us an objective look. but i guess it would be abit weird to do when they are sponsored by amd 😅
I really do hope you guys can get SteamOS 3 from Valve. Would love to see a video with performance comparisons between Win10/11 and SteamOS 3. I have already been gaming on Linux for a while now, but yeah the Anti-cheat such as EAC or Vanguard do get in the way all of the time. If Valve can find a way to get those working with Linux, then I would never have a reason for dual-booting windows anymore.
@@rezanugraha7144 Your option is assuming alot about the hardware, VM's on shaky hardware are bad enough on their own. let alone use for gaming which would require setting up GPU pass through which for a fact knocks the performance down. So those two combined would make a for a horrible gaming experience
I can’t wait for the official SteamOS release
I think everyone should just stick to windows, it is just so much simpler and having a whole bunch of other operating systems will just get very complicated.
@@Luca200_8 agree but competition is what drives advancement in technology.
The direct store technology is what im interested in for windows 11. It seems it could be a nice fps and loading time boosts.
Yep, this.
storage speeds don't affect fps lol
@@karljuliuz thats not entirely true... The faster something can be put into vram the faster it can be rendered. It can also prevent stuttering in certain cases. Either way faster loading times are still a good benefit.
@@angrynerd2103 exactly, that's why it doesn't affect fps, except for minimizing stutters when loading textures.
5:11 "Even with Microsoft's track record aside, you would hope that the next version of anything works better than the old one."
Linus, this is a video about Microsoft. Making new versions worse than old versions isn't just their track record; it's their godlike talent.
Win 10 is better than 7 in literally every way...
Hey remember when Microsoft couldn't get anyone to switch to Vista, so they made it so Halo 2 needed you to update to Vista to play it ? I could see them doing something like making sure DirectX 13 whenever it comes out only working on Windows 11
They Also Got So Much Heat For It, And Fixed It So Halo 2 Became Universal, And Then Steam Came Along! 😆
Have you ever tried using Farming Simulator 22 as a test game, I know it’s not most popular game but it is up there. And it’s a very demanding game so running tests with it should be insightful.
Honestly the more I read about about windows 11 the more I am looking at going full Linux
Me too bro, me too.
lmao go full Linux. No more games, u gonna scratch your head just doing simple basic things like installing a Wi-Fi driver or other drivers lol. Linux still FAR behind.
I don't see myself switching for a few years. I only use my PC for gaming so as long as my games continue to run fine on Win 10, I'm not switching.
You know this mans making an impact when he gets sponsored by AMD themselves
Congrats on the sponsor!
... and proceeds to use Nvidia GPUs LOL
He literally has a series of videos where Intel, which is a much larger company than AMD, gives them $5000 for his employees to mess around with, and you are impressed by a sponsored deal with AMD?
well its not surprising since intel extreme tech upgrade is a thing
@@kayy-03 well…I am a considerably new viewer so it’s new to me
But if it has happened then I guess the case is different lol
An updated video on this would be ideal.