Are you shitting me? This is quite simply brilliant! Winger just keep getting better and better with age - truly amazing stuff, which puts many other older rock bands to shame. It doesn''t get much heavier than this!! And tight as fuck on all the time changes!! Bravo!!!
It’s quite ironic how many of the so called great musicians of said “ hair band” era have come and gone, yet Winger has survived, if not progressed, to one of the most proficient, talented and widely recognized talented musicians in the rock world!
The early stuff they put out was fairly cheesy but no worse than a lot of the rubbish put out in the hair metal era. The “Pull” album had some really great stuff and they were and remain stellar musician that always seem to get a tough time in the media unfortunately.
Anybody written a comprehensive lyrical song recently? It ain’t easy. Recognize this band who has been writing music, for the love of music, for almost four decades now, as one of the great rock bands in Amercan rock history. Very talented group of musicians.
I am just amazed at how Kip's voice continues to be great 25 years after their first record. He's hitting full voice high notes that are just insane. I would say his tone is actually better now than in the 80's.
Watching Kip’s journey into orchestral composition, it’s so very cool seeing this type of cross-over. Very rarely do you hear such music with these musical elements AND a message on top. Kudos brother! Never disappointed......
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Honestly...just seeing these guys back bought a tear to my eye. Finally, music is making sense again. Reb, your guitar sounds just as good as it did in the 80's. This a great progressive song with once again kip's killer vocals.
I bet Rod loved this one being a Fusion/Prog type drummer (yes he can play anything you throw at him)! Awesome playing from all on board and Kip still had his voice wow! 👍
they were the poster children for all that was wrong about 80s metal for a while, which is sorta sad as they are all killer musicians and were really eaten alive by the machine as it were.
Their first album was unfortunately in the midst of this 80's hair metal era but In The Heart Of The Young was a major leap forward for them, Unfortunately, again, this was released around the time Grunge was in full swing. Pull suffered the same fate and nobody listened. IV for me was their magnum opus and I was hooked from the first listen. Karma mixed the old with the new and I was hooked immediately. I have had Better Days Comin' for over two weeks now and I can say that this is their best album yet! It mixes all I loved about IV with the immediacy of rock with Karma. Tin Soldier is them at their progressive best but those looking for more will be disappointed. The title track is their tribute to Kiss, Rat Race is their early Maiden at their best, but Out Of This World is the best track Winger has ever done! I cannot stop listening to it! This album is for ALL Winger fans past and present as it is so diverse, constantly changing from one track to the next. The ballads are the only let down, especially Be Who You Are, Now. It's not a bad track but it belongs o a Kip solo album, not here! 96/100 for me. Trust me, it will be worth the wait!
People dont get this...without Winger there would be no Dream Theater or other Progressive Metal acts. Yes Rush were the Godfathers but Winger held the torch in the early 90s and if it weren't for grunge they may have broke the mold. Extremely underrated musicians musicians band that got labeled as hair metal. Yes it helped them with popularity but they were so much more beneath the surface. Just break out those first two albums or their demos and you'll get whawt i mean.
I love the intro on the piano, Reb and John never seize to amaze me at their guitar playing, Kip still can kill it on the base and vocals. Rod still amazes me on the drums. Just love the whole feel on this song from the composition, lyrics, music and especially the video.
Every musician in this band is incredible. This song is proof. Each on of them has to be dead-on, or you could hear it even if you aren't a musician. The timing in this song is extremely difficult. They are very tight. Its very strange to me that this is first time I've heard this song. But definitely not the last.
So far I have really liked all 3 songs off the new album. Cannot wait to hear the entire thing. Kip's voice is in fine form and as always the entire band sounds excellent. Really hope people give this album a chance and listen.
YES! Kip is using the strap I lent (Dave) his guitar tech a straplock at the Charlotte show...my straplock is now in a WINGER video...and the video is KILLER!!! LOVE IT!
Good use of ostinatos (main section is 10+6 with band grooving in 5 underneath, which takes away any sense of a downbeat within the ostinato itself, as the downbeat keeps landing at different spots of the 16 notes) Then later a bridge with an ostinato in 6 where the drums make the measures grouped in 9 + 15 + 12 + 12 and then later the solo is back to 5 but the drums play as if like a backbeat in 10 so the snare is on the perceived downbeat of every other measure of the original 5 (beat turned around) Cool stuff. They always were a very rhythmically advanced band. And of course you probably know that Morgenstein is a pretty well established fusion drummer.
It's actually tricky to count or feel that first ostinato... It also could be like (6 + 10) or (6 + 4 + 6) or just think of it as a 16 note phrase. But there's a certain accent in there that makes me want to break it down to the 6 - 10 or the 10 - 6
I'm hoping that this reopens the door to great rock music here in American. I think we have been without it long enough. Enough of all that modern music, hip hop club BS. The world needs our rock heros back, musicians that actually know how to play
wow. 5/4 vrs 4/4 time is so progressive. This is a very creative song. And then the vocals about all the inner struggles that we all go through. Wow. This is not your normal 80's hair band. This band is up there with Opeth and Dream theater as far as talent goes. wow
Amazing as always.... Kip and the guys have never disappointed me (except by taking so damn long between albums). I hope they can make it through Seattle soon!
Wow! This is certainly an extension of IV, which is my favorite Winger album to date. As much as I look forward to the new release and enjoy the other songs I have heard, it would be incredible to hear more material like this in the future.
Great, as they always have been. Even in the early 90s their music was carefully made and arranged; even more so since "Pull". Some people saw them as "pretty pop-rock band" but they were overlooking the material made by someone who, at the time, was becoming one of the greatest rock composers of his time: Kip Winger. This guy went to music university. In 2010 he even composed classical pieces. His musical knowledge and good taste can be best appreciated in his solo albums.
wonderful.. incorporating classical into "classsical" masterpiece riffs..the rhythm & lead guitar are simply replacing the piano.. & it works..incredibly ...wonderfully well..this relatively new album is w/o a doubt Winger's best rock work yet...just like a fine wine
I lost track of Winger after their second release, but always liked them. Look at the back catalog I have to catch up on now. Kip! Dude, thanks for keeping the dream alive!
In the days that true metal became competitive with one another and slammed WINGER for what they stood for, I would sit in my English class saying "one day it will all fade away and the memories of tis great rock era will be their torchure" and finally when it did and modern life killed the rock star..I just looked at them now decaying and wishing they had it all back. I'm thankful I liked everything from WINGER to DEICIDE...I always stayed faithful to the art of rock and metal. Feels good to actually hear a guitar rck solo after all these year..??.
from butt rock to prog rock..hated these guys back in the day..but cant say that now...kip's voice is much more refined now and allot more bottom end to it..as for the rest of the band what's to say...absolute musicianship all this one...good stuff
Great song especially if you understand music. They are constantly changing from major to minor chords and being that I sing with a group, it's not easy to sing what Kip is singing. Great stuff!
Right on! Liking his use of sustain at "Come hide inside, come in under.' His voice almost floats on top of the other sounds and it works so well with what Reb is doing on guitar there. Love the use of odd meter, too.
I wonder if this song is about veterans who continue to suffer? I couldn't help but think after the line "war is not over" that it is about ptsd/tbi etc, being a veteran suffering with ptsd myself. I know he supports the military and in fact was honored with a plaque and historical USA flag for the song Blue Suede Shoes by General Harold Cross. You all probly know this. But that's what I think of hearing this song.
Are you shitting me? This is quite simply brilliant! Winger just keep getting better and better with age - truly amazing stuff, which puts many other older rock bands to shame. It doesn''t get much heavier than this!! And tight as fuck on all the time changes!! Bravo!!!
As a guitar player I always loved Reb Beach, Man! His fluid sounding tone is amazing.
The fact that Kip still has a vocal range like he does ....just wow. Definitely using proper technique
I am completely impressed. What a great song. Much better like Dream Theater etc.. Winger is now one of my new favorite bands.
Wow. Progressive Rock at it's best. Thank you Winger.🤯
It’s quite ironic how many of the so called great musicians of said “ hair band” era have come and gone, yet Winger has survived, if not progressed, to one of the most proficient, talented and widely recognized talented musicians in the rock world!
queen babylon and better days coming are my favorite songs. ❤
Metallica needs to watch this and see how its really done. 🎸🎵🎶
Metalica after 90 is a bad joke
Winger returns and goes prog rock on our asses?! Good on you Kip! Fucking A I'll allow it! Yeah!
Damn, this song is the definition of prog!!! Those time signatures! Major and Minor movements. Wow!
Winger got crap being dismissed
as a hair band,when in reality they are
great musicians.
Great musicians doesn't neccessarily mean great music... they might been in the hands of record companies wanting hits...
The early stuff they put out was fairly cheesy but no worse than a lot of the rubbish put out in the hair metal era. The “Pull” album had some really great stuff and they were and remain stellar musician that always seem to get a tough time in the media unfortunately.
Musicianship was always top notch. Lyrics? Not so much, especially on the first album.
Anybody written a comprehensive lyrical song recently? It ain’t easy. Recognize this band who has been writing music, for the love of music, for almost four decades now, as one of the great rock bands in Amercan rock history. Very talented group of musicians.
This is High Quality Rock / Hard Rock / Metal with a strong Progressive vein
Very well could be the best Winger song I've ever heard. That's a LOT of music crammed into less than four minutes. Awesome!
I am just amazed at how Kip's voice continues to be great 25 years after their first record. He's hitting full voice high notes that are just insane. I would say his tone is actually better now than in the 80's.
They're so much more than that. Reb is a guitar genius & Kip? Master at work
Watching Kip’s journey into orchestral composition, it’s so very cool seeing this type of cross-over. Very rarely do you hear such music with these musical elements AND a message on top. Kudos brother! Never disappointed......
Pure professionalism, every note is right. They sound live great. Maestro Winger!
We 💯 agree, criminally underrated band.
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Honestly...just seeing these guys back bought a tear to my eye. Finally, music is making sense again. Reb, your guitar sounds just as good as it did in the 80's. This a great progressive song with once again kip's killer vocals.
Have you heard "Out of this World" yet? Some of Reb's best soloing. IMO, he is just improving all the time!
Now we are talkin' This is what music should sound like. Awesome Winger is still around. Great tune "HEAR"!!!! ROCK ON!!!!!
Í have loved winger since headed for a heartbreak 💔
I bet Rod loved this one being a Fusion/Prog type drummer (yes he can play anything you throw at him)! Awesome playing from all on board and Kip still had his voice wow! 👍
Interesting to think they were once considered a pretty-boy pop-rock band. Nothing like that here. Gone full prog-rock. Good stuff.
They were always more than that once people got past the image. They've turned out some fantastic, well-crafted songs and this one's no exception.
they were the poster children for all that was wrong about 80s metal for a while, which is sorta sad as they are all killer musicians and were really eaten alive by the machine as it were.
That they were, Todd!
Their first album was unfortunately in the midst of this 80's hair metal era but In The Heart Of The Young was a major leap forward for them, Unfortunately, again, this was released around the time Grunge was in full swing. Pull suffered the same fate and nobody listened. IV for me was their magnum opus and I was hooked from the first listen. Karma mixed the old with the new and I was hooked immediately. I have had Better Days Comin' for over two weeks now and I can say that this is their best album yet! It mixes all I loved about IV with the immediacy of rock with Karma. Tin Soldier is them at their progressive best but those looking for more will be disappointed. The title track is their tribute to Kiss, Rat Race is their early Maiden at their best, but Out Of This World is the best track Winger has ever done! I cannot stop listening to it! This album is for ALL Winger fans past and present as it is so diverse, constantly changing from one track to the next. The ballads are the only let down, especially Be Who You Are, Now. It's not a bad track but it belongs o a Kip solo album, not here! 96/100 for me. Trust me, it will be worth the wait!
Never been disappointed by one of theirs yet, Craig!
Winger Great !!! Epic !!! Forever!!! 🙌🏻🙌🏻👏🏻👏🏻💪🏻💪🏻👊🏻👊🏻👊🏻!!!
Rod's snare sounds AWESOME
Dude, he sounds that good standing 10 feet away on a 'backline' rented set too...I've been there...they are all awesome people and players....
Yep. Been there
To me they write tunes on a bachian level. Winger is ahead of their time so to speak. I am thankful I found them as a young kid
People dont get this...without Winger there would be no Dream Theater or other Progressive Metal acts. Yes Rush were the Godfathers but Winger held the torch in the early 90s and if it weren't for grunge they may have broke the mold. Extremely underrated musicians musicians band that got labeled as hair metal. Yes it helped them with popularity but they were so much more beneath the surface. Just break out those first two albums or their demos and you'll get whawt i mean.
I love the intro on the piano, Reb and John never seize to amaze me at their guitar playing, Kip still can kill it on the base and vocals. Rod still amazes me on the drums. Just love the whole feel on this song from the composition, lyrics, music and especially the video.
This song is like a dream.
This one tops them all. Superb in every way. Dynamics, ideas and execution. Just amazing.
Every musician in this band is incredible. This song is proof. Each on of them has to be dead-on, or you could hear it even if you aren't a musician. The timing in this song is extremely difficult. They are very tight. Its very strange to me that this is first time I've heard this song. But definitely not the last.
Holy crap is this a great song! Always loved Winger, nice to see the magic is back on this album..
This makes me happy. Always loved Winger. They haven't skipped a beat
I'm shocked at how good this sounds...
Yeah, now buy all their old stuff too. It has always been laced with this!
Holy crap! This is awesome! Love how it has a modern hard rock sound.
Great playing, great tune, GREAT DRUMS !
Winger- masters 😀
So far I have really liked all 3 songs off the new album. Cannot wait to hear the entire thing. Kip's voice is in fine form and as always the entire band sounds excellent. Really hope people give this album a chance and listen.
Wow! Prog-melodic-hard? Incredible!!!
Creativity at its best! So glad to see Kip and Co. back in the swing(heavy swing!)of things!!
YES! Kip is using the strap I lent (Dave) his guitar tech a straplock at the Charlotte show...my straplock is now in a WINGER video...and the video is KILLER!!! LOVE IT!
Love Winger
always great song great vocals and great music
this is music not the sad crap they play on the radio today
bubble gum pop
Absolutely amazing! Prog rock Winger is definitely something they should explore more.
Beautiful video for a great tune! I like Rod's playing on this one very much... :-)
Good use of ostinatos (main section is 10+6 with band grooving in 5 underneath, which takes away any sense of a downbeat within the ostinato itself, as the downbeat keeps landing at different spots of the 16 notes)
Then later a bridge with an ostinato in 6 where the drums make the measures grouped in 9 + 15 + 12 + 12
and then later the solo is back to 5 but the drums play as if like a backbeat in 10 so the snare is on the perceived downbeat of every other measure of the original 5 (beat turned around)
Cool stuff. They always were a very rhythmically advanced band. And of course you probably know that Morgenstein is a pretty well established fusion drummer.
It's actually tricky to count or feel that first ostinato... It also could be like (6 + 10) or (6 + 4 + 6) or just think of it as a 16 note phrase. But there's a certain accent in there that makes me want to break it down to the 6 - 10 or the 10 - 6
Brilliant music from brilliant musicians.
I've always been a fan of Kip Winger. This song sounds good.
I'm hoping that this reopens the door to great rock music here in American. I think we have been without it long enough. Enough of all that modern music, hip hop club BS. The world needs our rock heros back, musicians that actually know how to play
Incredible song! just like the rest of the album, Winger are such a misunderstood and underated band.
Arguably their best track.
wow. 5/4 vrs 4/4 time is so progressive. This is a very creative song. And then the vocals about all the inner struggles that we all go through. Wow. This is not your normal 80's hair band. This band is up there with Opeth and Dream theater as far as talent goes. wow
Never been a winger fan but this track is brilliant, top top tune
Top tune right here. Love it.
I love it!!! Very prog, and it's pretty clear than Mr. Morguestein is playing and sounding like he want. Chapeau.
LOVE this! Chill-inducing stuff on the chorus and the ending is just killer. I am now officially excited for this new album.
Nice tune. I like the prog elements and that it plays around with time signatures. The one is my favorite of the new Winger tunes.
Amazing as always.... Kip and the guys have never disappointed me (except by taking so damn long between albums). I hope they can make it through Seattle soon!
Brilliant
This song is AWESOME! It sounds like they've been hanging out with Dream Theater. I love the melody in this song.
Absolutely fantastic!! I love it!!!
Wow! This is certainly an extension of IV, which is my favorite Winger album to date. As much as I look forward to the new release and enjoy the other songs I have heard, it would be incredible to hear more material like this in the future.
My jaw is still on the floor!!! Incredible!!
Wow, nice polyrhythm in the intro... really great prog song!
Love It!! This reminds me of their incredible release, PULL, that sadly never got the respect it deserved at the time.
My favorite rock band!
UFFFF INCREDIBLE MASTER SONG.
Awesome rock n roll. A true vocalist meshing with a talented band. Solid!
Winger masterpiece💪
Great, as they always have been. Even in the early 90s their music was carefully made and arranged; even more so since "Pull". Some people saw them as "pretty pop-rock band" but they were overlooking the material made by someone who, at the time, was becoming one of the greatest rock composers of his time: Kip Winger. This guy went to music university. In 2010 he even composed classical pieces. His musical knowledge and good taste can be best appreciated in his solo albums.
wonderful..
incorporating classical into "classsical" masterpiece riffs..the rhythm & lead guitar are simply replacing the piano..
& it works..incredibly ...wonderfully well..this relatively new album is w/o a doubt Winger's best rock work yet...just like a fine wine
This song is awesome!!! Can't wait for the new album :)
Always loved winger.💯
HEY!!!! now they show what they could do! amazing song.
I lost track of Winger after their second release, but always liked them. Look at the back catalog I have to catch up on now. Kip! Dude, thanks for keeping the dream alive!
Oh, yea, just listened to Rat Race and this track. I'm hooked again.
Good to have them back.
Let's see other bands do 5/4 time this smoothly
In the days that true metal became competitive with one another and slammed WINGER for what they stood for, I would sit in my English class saying "one day it will all fade away and the memories of tis great rock era will be their torchure" and finally when it did and modern life killed the rock star..I just looked at them now decaying and wishing they had it all back. I'm thankful I liked everything from WINGER to DEICIDE...I always stayed faithful to the art of rock and metal.
Feels good to actually hear a guitar rck solo after all these year..??.
I really love this one..beautiful groove
Yes! I LOVE 5/8! (or 10/8)
This band really should have had a post-glam/hair prog career alongside their legacy tours.
from butt rock to prog rock..hated these guys back in the day..but cant say that now...kip's voice is much more refined now and allot more bottom end to it..as for the rest of the band what's to say...absolute musicianship all this one...good stuff
Love the 5s main motiff.
incredible, a masterpiece
Love it! ...has that inimitable, progressive drive that has always made Winger superior. No doubt this will be my summer "go to" album!
I'm surprised: It's been such a long time since i Heard your last album This song is really cool, Congrat,
I like this song a lot. Winger gets the last laugh.. Great band
Great song especially if you understand music. They are constantly changing from major to minor chords and being that I sing with a group, it's not easy to sing what Kip is singing. Great stuff!
Right on!
Liking his use of sustain at "Come hide inside, come in under.' His voice almost floats on top of the other sounds and it works so well with what Reb is doing on guitar there.
Love the use of odd meter, too.
My favourite part is the 4/4 piano part being syncopated behind the 5/8 of the main riff! Very cool
Best song they ever did. They should abandon the "Seventeen" crowd (which I'm a part of, by the way), and go full on prog. They're clearly good at it.
Amazing Winger.
Wow...Very progressive. Well done...
amazing work... yay for Mr Winger and band-mates!
Damn power band!!
Meaty sound and really quite Prog! I'm very pleasantly surprised… buying this now.
Music a great band writes and plays when absent of corrupt and controlling record companies!
Pull is a killer album. Light years ahead of the old stuff.
Am I the only one who thinks this is like Dream Theater? It's pure progressive sound
Great Music!
This is a progressive song and it fits perfectly to these amazing musicians.
I like this sound. Good stuff
such a cool band ! reb is a monster guitarist !
I wonder if this song is about veterans who continue to suffer? I couldn't help but think after the line "war is not over" that it is about ptsd/tbi etc, being a veteran suffering with ptsd myself. I know he supports the military and in fact was honored with a plaque and historical USA flag for the song Blue Suede Shoes by General Harold Cross. You all probly know this. But that's what I think of hearing this song.
YooZherName Thank you! You too!
Man - Kip's voices hasn't changed a bit!!!