My Daughter wants a horse, being as our ground is hard packed sandy clay, normal hammer style pounders won't work. I had to fab up a heavy duty tamper style pounder to get the job done.
Hey BentRZR! Awesome. I am Freakin' impressed. Those who aren't NEVER spent an eight hour day with a hand post hole digger. Then tried the Auger. Then tried the Hammer one. All better than the one before. I have been thinking along these lines for my upcoming pasture project. It is the best method I have seen yet. Would love more technical details. Model Compactor number, dimensions of your accessory plate. Notes on lessons learned. This IS the future of post hole setting.
And I sometimes feel overwhelmed by my dad duties. Yours, "Dad, I want a horse" buying horse is the easy part. Then mile of installed fence posts, cross members, AND painting. Now we need a barn. Sure kid, anything else, lol.
I know I just commented a few weeks ago, but man o' man is this cool. I really need just alittle guidance on the adaptor plate. You obviously have skills and imagination, in addition to being a great Dad. I am getting ready to do 26 acres of pasture fencing. I was dread, sorry DREADING! getting the posts in. This would be such a great solution. I can rent the Skidsteer, but I am considering buying the Ho Pac 400 and doing exactly what you did. Then when I am done all the fencing , maybe renting it out or selling it. It costs about $4000 to buy new. But then it would be worth it not to hand dig all those holes. Any info or even a discussion of the plate fabrication would save me a lot of trouble and time. I have read every comment from start to finish. Thank you for any info. USN DAV, Navy Dad, Firefighter/ Paramedic Dad.
Being as you're a Fire fighter and you served your country, I would be honored to assist a bit more! The plate adapter fabrication is fairly straight forward. Look at the Skidsteer mount with no attachment on it (no bucket or forks). There is a groove on the top where the skid steers top plate fits in, there is a bend in the adapter plate so it fits the contour of the mount and at the bottom, there are 2 holes in the plate where the mounts locking pins fit through. I took 1/4" plate steel, bent it in my brake to fit the contour but you can either use 2 pieces and weld them on an angle or mark a line where it needs to be bent, cut it 90% through with a zip disc, bend it with your hands and weld along the ":Score" line. At the top, weld a strip of plate steel to form a groove for the mounts top to fit in. Weld supports on either side of where the mount fits in so it won't bend after use. When plumbing in the hydraulics, remember that the big hose is the return. You never want to run the unit in reverse so check on the tamper for direction of travel and ensure you have the hoses ran correctly! You can shoot me an email any time if you need more help! kevin@younkerswelding.com
Excellent tool!.. I use my compact tractor bucket to push T posts in but there is no way it has enough hydraulic pump to drive this implement.. Guess thats why post hole augers were invented..:)
Good looking rig! Not to familiar with that type of packer. What size/model is it, and about what do they cost? Looking at something like this or the Hammer from Danuser. We have hard packed clay/hardpan here as well, and I don't want to buy something that won't/can't do the job.
dirtTdude - What an idiotic statement. Good dads do all sorts of nice things for their children. I know mine certainly did and still does. And I didn't turn out to be an entitled libtard. In fact, I'm the opposite. I learned from both my parents that doing nice things for others is one of the best things in life! You should also watch your dirty mouth. Your lack of respect for others is a hallmark of an entitled libtard.
I did everything I could to help my daughter succeed. I can't live her life for her, but I've tried to support and encourage in every endeavor she's chosen. Thankfully I'm able to 'block' ppl like dirtdude, who apparently never had a supporting parent.
enough oil volume would be the issue. 13 gpm would be the minimum, many up in the low 20. Most compact tractors can't get more than 10 gpm. Skid steers, because of their motor drives always have a higher capacity.
BentRZR: I thought about making one for my own use. I wanted to weld a cup at one end for line/corner post and one at the opposite end for T-post. Any concern?
+Andy Everett I wouldn't weld on either end, you won't have much striking force. You should only weld a cup on the downward 1/2 of the plate (when watching it cycle from the cab, you will see there is a circular rotation to the plate). If you weld on the opposite (up) side, there will be little to no effective strike. You can add bolt holes to your cup, so you can bolt on the T-bar adaptor. Let me know how you make out...
+BentRZR 10-4 Didn't realize that. Makes sense now that you mention it. Used them for 20 years. Hadn't put much thought into exactly how it worked. Thanks for your time!
A great idea to use the HoPac to pound 180 post in 10 hours.I have a buddy with a 50 acre farm and needs to put a perimeter fence around and divide into multiple pastures for a heard of Highland cattle. I can rent a HoPac for a couple of days. Is that the Allied Construction Products HoPac 400? Their manufacturing plant is in Cleveland. i work with their Marketing Dept in a PR and Advertising free lance capacity. That's a great application, I'll forward this video for the Marketing Dept.
+michaelovitch Thanks Michealovitch. My daughter filmed the video, I drove the skidsteer and a friend held the posts. My daughter also helped attach the boards, drive my rzr/trailer back and fourth hauling the boards...but was nowhere to be found when it came time to paint :)
Seems in my way of thinkin, that pencil point you have on the post would make for harder driving since you have increased the amount of surface area in contact with the ground
+Myles Nicholas Yes, I thought of that when I was designing the unit but the thought of the annoying rattling sound killed it for me. I never thought of using a rope with a weight until after...dang it! And you could have it's length adjusted to hit the ground at the desired depth...hindsight is 20/20 eh! Take care! and thanks for your suggestions!
I really like this idea. Did you weld the post cup to the plate. Also do you think it matters if the cup is bigger to handle larger posts or does in need to fit fairly close to the size of the post and maybe have an adapter for bigger or smaller posts.
+Mark vanDonkersgoed To prevent the post top from splitting, you should keep it from moving laterally, so the closer the fit, the better. Yes, the cup is tacked on with 4- 2" stitch welds.
Wait, this is where kids get the idea that they'd get a pony if they ask for Christmas from?!?! (jk that's pretty awesome, including showing us how it works, ya'll are some generous parents)
I am very pleased that you are still taking the time to answer questions with this video being the age that it is. Very inspiring fabrication and innovative thinking. I am years away from being able to afford land and build a home, but man am I taking notes. I love fabricating and designing special-use items for tasks like this. I hope you continue to work on projects and continue this trend. You sound like a great father, and I am sure your kids will be raised right and be respectful and admirable adults one day. Do not let the negative comments here mess up your day.
igotsomespace thanks for the kind words my friend...as always, if you find yourself in a situation where you can't solve a design issue, feel free to reach out!
The Posts cost 2500, the 2x6 3000 and the paint was 1500. I fabbed up board spacers that hung off the top of each post and held the 3 boards in place so I could fasten them. I used an airless sprayer to paint the fence, it was much faster!
As long as you use a large model skidsteer, you should be ok. Go back through the entire conversation, there is a complete description of how and why I built it the way it is. Good luck!
@@BentRZR i have a kubota 95 track loader with high flow. I was thinking of using a blank skid steer plate and welding the ho pac to it? Would that work? It's a hopac 1000?
@@Cartwrightoutdoors I checked the max flow of the hoepac and compared it to the skidsteers output and pressure. Ensure you have the hoepac mounted properly! I mounted mine sideways, so the vibration didn't transfer directly to the frame. When you hook the lines up, make sure you know which way the hoepac spins and only flow that way. If you spin them in reverse, the locking bolt inside the motor will back off and you will loose all function. The rotation should be marked on the unit.
Hello (from down in New Zealand) I hope your daughter is getting on well with her horse - I'm a horseman and fencer down here! Older video now but I see you are still looking in sometimes. I'm looking at building one of these units and wonder if you could please be as specific as possible about the specifications of your hoe-pac unit, I'd like to know its weight, power, oil flow required (both as speced and what you estimate it took i.e. how hard did you run the carrier). I note you were right onto it regards where to place the post guide ring!
I read all the comments and replies and could not find an answer to this question. On your skidsteer mounting plate above the frame of the HoPac there seems to be a steel rib welded to the mounting plate going around the frame of the HoPac ???? Is this correct? Believing that it must be to distribute the vibrations of the HoPac more evenly on the plate frame ?? Also wondering it the HoPac is welded or bolted to the plate frame? I am thinking welded. What are the dimensions of the steel used for the "rib" surrounding the HoPac frame ??? I've been viewing this video for a couple years now and finally have everything to put one of these drivers together ! Just want to make sure I include all the features that yours has since yours seems so well thought out !!! Great tool ! Great video !!! Thanks !!! :-)
Hi John, The mounting plate was pre fitted to the Skid steer system to ensure it would fit prior to welding it to the hoe pac frame. There is a stiffener welded to the mounting bracket to keep it from flexing.
Hugh, Although I never observed this, my neighbor said he rented a heartland post pounder to build his fence. Using the same size posts, he said it was taking up to 45 minutes to do each post. The hard packed clay/sand in this area is ridiculous ! Never heard of Shaver pounders but as with anything, it depends on weight! I chose my method because of previous experience with tampers and oilfield pile driving...
@@BentRZR I had a Shaver 10 mounted on a Ditch Witch and pounded average 1/4 mile fences in a couple hours....that's 4" flat posts in Iowa. I fenced for 13 years and loved it for the most part doing quarter mile five strand barb in 7 hours and woven in about 8 1/2 hours. A pounder is the only way to go in my opinion. I did all my fence by myself. Im in NC now and did one fence here ...never again...whole state is rock...lol. Your set up might work better here than my pounder.
What size hoepac is that? Ive got an allied 1600 i mounted on my cat 297 but i mounted it the other direction...from the end. I found it shook the machine too much though. Perhaps from the side is a better route, yours runs smooth! Works fantastic on the excavator and with the hardened spikes i built it will break rock. I might have to try your mounting style to see if it runs any smother. Or maybe thats a little smaller hoepac than a 1600
+Travis 297c Hey Travis, your allied 1600 is one step up from the one I used. The reason I mounted my hoepac sideways was: the mounting plate would fit easier and the vibration would be absorbed left and right by the loader arms. I think if you mount yours the same as mine...you will have a "Killer" post pounder!
+BentRZR thanks for the info. The impulse force on the 1600 is almost double the 1000 which i think would be the next size down but i never thought of it that way. It might make all the difference sideways. I do run my cap off center and my spike off center as well to generate more of a slap and hammer effect. Did you just weld your quick attack direct to the side of the hoepac? I might fab up some mounts so i can can still swap from excavator to skid steer. Cheers!
+Travis 297c Yes, I welded mine directly to the hoepac. I was worried that if I just bolted it, it could come loose and fall on whoever is holding the posts...lol An allied hoepac here in Alberta runs about 11,000, which is why I bought an American brand, so I didn't need to worry about it. It cost me 3 grand and is the same size as my allied 1000, which has about 8,000 lbs of hitting force.
+BentRZR Im out in northwest BC. I lucked into an Allied for under 5000 in decent shape. Mine wasnt a pin on its just got the flat base on top for a q/a for a hoe to bolt to. I worry a bit as well but we keep a close eye on them! Cheers!
+BentRZR What brand did you buy? I am located in the Lowermainland of BC - for $3K - I would pick one up in a heart beat - looks pretty easy to fab the back onto it as well!! GREAT idea.
+Mark vanDonkersgoed My John Deere CT332 skidsteer handles this hoepac with no issues, with it mounted sideways. I think the limiting factor would be the flow that your skidsteer can provide. If you go with a larger hoepac, you may be disappointed because the heavier counterbalance may not revolve fast enough to give you the same (or more) hammer as a smaller one, because the skidsteer's pump can't flow the required gpm of fluid. Maybe you should hook the hydraulic lines from the hoepac to your skidsteer and try it first, before committing to the build?
+BentRZR That makes sense what model of Demac is that i can't find any specs on those online i see a few for sale but having trouble finding any info on them.
+Mark vanDonkersgoed here is the same tamper: cochranauctions.hibid.com/lot/23147-53012-176302/2015-demac-mo--bhc8377-vibratory-plate-tamper-/ theres not much info out there, is there...
+Mark vanDonkersgoed i tried an allied 1600 which we figured was a size bigger and its too much. I have a 297 which is the largest cat skid they make. I picked up a npkc4 and mounted it sideways like this and its works awesome!
+Travis 297c Thanks for sharing your experience with the larger model. Will definitely be looking at the smaller models to see if i can pick one up. There aren't to many in my area like the one BentRZR used
nice! but I don't know why you are showing the driver to come forward after the post has been inserted in the ground, its just a waste of fuel, time, and you arm will hurt after a while:) nice unit
the earth seemed so hard that i thought after half of meter insertion, its pointless to try straightening the post. nice vid nice unit keep on posting!
+waylon miller Sorry Waylon, I just seen your question now. The unit is called a vibratory plate tamper. It is used to compact dirt. I fabricated an adapter plate to attach it to my skidsteer and modified it a bit to handle posts. The tampers cost between 3000 and 12,000 "new" depending on manufacturer but you can pick them up at auction fairly cheap.
You're NOT through , YET! YOU need to install atleast (2) HOT wires along the entire fence run , otherwise your ponies will scratch their BIG asses on your shinny new fence and push IT OVER , over time ! BUT , you already knew this , RIGHT ?
Lol! Yup, I learned that lesson. I did install a single wire around the top and hooked up a solar powered electric fence. That stopped them from eating the top boards! Good observation 👍
Alright Craig, post a video showing your hydraulic pounder completing 5- 6" posts in a row without shutting the video camera off. This will give us a good time reference to prove your claim! Be careful because if you dry-fire those hydraulic breaker bar units, you will destroy them in minutes! It took me and a friend a full 10 hours just to pound the posts with the tamper and the reason I chose a tamper over a breaker bar (which is what you are referring to) is because we have used plate tampers attached to track hoes to drive Steel piles in the patch for 25 years, yet I have never seen one breaker bar used...not once. Thats because they will detonate internally if you fire them with no resistance on the output end. As for pushing the posts and hanging 3 layers of 2 x 6 boards in a 12 hour day.......pfft!
BentRZR 320 post in 8 hours 12 foot red pine (shit posts) for apple trellis, red rocky ground. You cut scenes its not 1 video shot the ground you got is definitely sand.... with a hydraulic boom i can pivot, tilt back and fourth. If im having a tough time with roots rocks etc i can plum the boom with post completely like a nail gun. Three sided boom for safety,
As stated above, My children get good marks in school, they are into sports, don't do drugs and are very respectful...I will do everything in my power to reward them for positive behavior.
Hey SterlingK, There will always be dimwitted keyboard warriors who try trolling for arguments. I agree with you, they have issues that can't be resolved by discussion, so we are better off ignoring them. I could block their posts but I find it more satisfying leaving them for the amusement of others! Cheers!
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Your spotter was awesome. Stood the post at the right distance & guide you as you were driving the post.
That was excellent. Best darn way to put in posts and nice and safe too. Great job!
truly a tool that is very cool and very useful for my work hoping to have it.
Like the way you 'spray painted' all the fence - ground and all.
Hey BentRZR! Awesome. I am Freakin' impressed. Those who aren't NEVER spent an eight hour day with a hand post hole digger. Then tried the Auger. Then tried the Hammer one. All better than the one before. I have been thinking along these lines for my upcoming pasture project. It is the best method I have seen yet. Would love more technical details. Model Compactor number, dimensions of your accessory plate. Notes on lessons learned. This IS the future of post hole setting.
You guys did one hell of a lot of work in 10 hours.
Thanks for the video.
Damn dude you need to patent that! That is way better than the other post drivers on the market.
And I sometimes feel overwhelmed by my dad duties. Yours, "Dad, I want a horse" buying horse is the easy part. Then mile of installed fence posts, cross members, AND painting. Now we need a barn. Sure kid, anything else, lol.
Baby gets what baby wants
Brilliant!
Good job daddy. Your daughter should always come first. After all what is money for? Spend it with the people you love.
Awesome! Can you tell me the make and model of that plate compactor? I need this in my life...
That is a beautiful fence. Love the one person pass through. Great idea
Will work on a lots of spots... I like it... !!
Wow. This is by far the best way to install fence posts. Why people go with messy augers when you can do it this way? And, you are a good dad.
I know I just commented a few weeks ago, but man o' man is this cool. I really need just alittle guidance on the adaptor plate. You obviously have skills and imagination, in addition to being a great Dad. I am getting ready to do 26 acres of pasture fencing. I was dread, sorry DREADING! getting the posts in. This would be such a great solution. I can rent the Skidsteer, but I am considering buying the Ho Pac 400 and doing exactly what you did. Then when I am done all the fencing , maybe renting it out or selling it. It costs about $4000 to buy new. But then it would be worth it not to hand dig all those holes. Any info or even a discussion of the plate fabrication would save me a lot of trouble and time. I have read every comment from start to finish. Thank you for any info. USN DAV, Navy Dad, Firefighter/ Paramedic Dad.
Being as you're a Fire fighter and you served your country, I would be honored to assist a bit more!
The plate adapter fabrication is fairly straight forward. Look at the Skidsteer mount with no attachment on it (no bucket or forks). There is a groove on the top where the skid steers top plate fits in, there is a bend in the adapter plate so it fits the contour of the mount and at the bottom, there are 2 holes in the plate where the mounts locking pins fit through.
I took 1/4" plate steel, bent it in my brake to fit the contour but you can either use 2 pieces and weld them on an angle or mark a line where it needs to be bent, cut it 90% through with a zip disc, bend it with your hands and weld along the ":Score" line.
At the top, weld a strip of plate steel to form a groove for the mounts top to fit in. Weld supports on either side of where the mount fits in so it won't bend after use.
When plumbing in the hydraulics, remember that the big hose is the return. You never want to run the unit in reverse so check on the tamper for direction of travel and ensure you have the hoses ran correctly!
You can shoot me an email any time if you need more help!
kevin@younkerswelding.com
beautiful Border Collie. Have had 2 of them, gets interesting when they learn all the key words, then how to spell them.
Wow that thing works great
Thanks! It sure beats augering...
BentRZR its a plate tamper for an excavator
Northern farmer I
Excellent tool!.. I use my compact tractor bucket to push T posts in but there is no way it has enough hydraulic pump to drive this implement.. Guess thats why post hole augers were invented..:)
Good looking rig! Not to familiar with that type of packer. What size/model is it, and about what do they cost? Looking at something like this or the Hammer from Danuser. We have hard packed clay/hardpan here as well, and I don't want to buy something that won't/can't do the job.
Armaah
What a good dad!
dirtTdude - What an idiotic statement. Good dads do all sorts of nice things for their children. I know mine certainly did and still does. And I didn't turn out to be an entitled libtard. In fact, I'm the opposite. I learned from both my parents that doing nice things for others is one of the best things in life! You should also watch your dirty mouth. Your lack of respect for others is a hallmark of an entitled libtard.
I did everything I could to help my daughter succeed. I can't live her life for her, but I've tried to support and encourage in every endeavor she's chosen. Thankfully I'm able to 'block' ppl like dirtdude, who apparently never had a supporting parent.
Hahaha! Putting the level on the pole when it's already driven a yard into the ground, priceless.
VERY HUMBLE 👍💪
Nice video where can I buy that post driver attachment thank you
Awesome tool
Do you think I could use some thing similar on my compact tractor ?
enough oil volume would be the issue. 13 gpm would be the minimum, many up in the low 20. Most compact tractors can't get more than 10 gpm. Skid steers, because of their motor drives always have a higher capacity.
wow nice job looks great
Jose lupe m thanks Jose'...it's still straight and white!
Still works with some rock. They do vibrate away. 4 ft rocks would be a problem with any pounder.
pretty slick
Thanks!
Hydraulic drivers are the way to go
BentRZR: I thought about making one for my own use. I wanted to weld a cup at one end for line/corner post and one at the opposite end for T-post. Any concern?
+Andy Everett I wouldn't weld on either end, you won't have much striking force. You should only weld a cup on the downward 1/2 of the plate (when watching it cycle from the cab, you will see there is a circular rotation to the plate). If you weld on the opposite (up) side, there will be little to no effective strike.
You can add bolt holes to your cup, so you can bolt on the T-bar adaptor.
Let me know how you make out...
+BentRZR 10-4 Didn't realize that. Makes sense now that you mention it. Used them for 20 years. Hadn't put much thought into exactly how it worked. Thanks for your time!
A great idea to use the HoPac to pound 180 post in 10 hours.I have a buddy with a 50 acre farm and needs to put a perimeter fence around and divide into multiple pastures for a heard of Highland cattle. I can rent a HoPac for a couple of days. Is that the Allied Construction Products HoPac 400? Their manufacturing plant is in Cleveland. i work with their Marketing Dept in a PR and Advertising free lance capacity. That's a great application, I'll forward this video for the Marketing Dept.
Huh, that's a hell of a thing you got there.
Nice tool,clever use of it.
Your daughter helped you ?
+michaelovitch Thanks Michealovitch.
My daughter filmed the video, I drove the skidsteer and a friend held the posts. My daughter also helped attach the boards, drive my rzr/trailer back and fourth hauling the boards...but was nowhere to be found when it came time to paint :)
+BentRZR
She helped you,that's cool : )
That's quite a work and materials.
Nice place to do this : )
That's fast! Did you also make a giant pencil sharpener to put points on the posts? Great job.
Jajajaja
180 posts in 10 hours? That is fast.
Seems in my way of thinkin, that pencil point you have on the post would make for harder driving since you have increased the amount of surface area in contact with the ground
Did you say you put a depth gauge on it? Ifso where abouts. Awesome set up man
Thanks Grant! We put a paint mark at 4'. The posts are 8'
Other machines have a heavy steel chain, which helps the driver to see how vertical the post is, from inside the cab.
+Myles Nicholas Yes, I thought of that when I was designing the unit but the thought of the annoying rattling sound killed it for me. I never thought of using a rope with a weight until after...dang it! And you could have it's length adjusted to hit the ground at the desired depth...hindsight is 20/20 eh!
Take care! and thanks for your suggestions!
Your lucky daughter.
Best performing post pounder anywhere. And there's a lot on the market nowadays.
How did you sharpen the bottoms and chamfer the tops of the posts?
Thanks! The posts were purchased from ufa as is.
Hi, I am interested in the red part of the post pounder. Do you know where to buy it?
Allan, if you read the comments, there are several comments on the model and where to buy them in Western Canada.
Good luck!
Outstanding idea.
Thank you Sir!
u have a good ground for that too. we have many rocks in our ground so that an pounder will bring nothing. every holy has to shovel out
I really like this idea. Did you weld the post cup to the plate. Also do you think it matters if the cup is bigger to handle larger posts or does in need to fit fairly close to the size of the post and maybe have an adapter for bigger or smaller posts.
+Mark vanDonkersgoed To prevent the post top from splitting, you should keep it from moving laterally, so the closer the fit, the better.
Yes, the cup is tacked on with 4- 2" stitch welds.
+BentRZR Thanks How thick is the plate you fabricated for the the attachement plate
+Mark vanDonkersgoed The adapter plate is 1/4".
+BentRZR Thank you
your a good dad
fab up?
How did you make sure that they were aligned in straight line?
gary24752 I ran a string line. you can see it in the video
we crushed the pillars with a JCB telescopic loader jib with its weight
Superb awesome
Very impressive. What's the flow rate required for the tamp? Did you try driving flat bottom posts too?
The tamper I used doesn't require the hi-flow option, I think it's min is 14 gpm. I drove dozens of 4" flat bottom posts with it with no issues.
What brand was the tamper you used?
Very cool! Too bad you didn't treat the wood with anything before driving it into the ground, it would last a lot longer.
Nothing compares to a vector post driver
Wait, this is where kids get the idea that they'd get a pony if they ask for Christmas from?!?! (jk that's pretty awesome, including showing us how it works, ya'll are some generous parents)
I am very pleased that you are still taking the time to answer questions with this video being the age that it is. Very inspiring fabrication and innovative thinking. I am years away from being able to afford land and build a home, but man am I taking notes. I love fabricating and designing special-use items for tasks like this. I hope you continue to work on projects and continue this trend. You sound like a great father, and I am sure your kids will be raised right and be respectful and admirable adults one day. Do not let the negative comments here mess up your day.
igotsomespace thanks for the kind words my friend...as always, if you find yourself in a situation where you can't solve a design issue, feel free to reach out!
Absolutely will do :)
Omg I need that for T posts
They make one for T-post works off air and hand held
Nicely done and fast. About how much did all that wood and paint cost ya?
The Posts cost 2500, the 2x6 3000 and the paint was 1500. I fabbed up board spacers that hung off the top of each post and held the 3 boards in place so I could fasten them. I used an airless sprayer to paint the fence, it was much faster!
BentRZR Do you have pics of the board spacers? Thanks!
What did you cut the post with to make a sharp point on them?
The posts were purchased that way. They are 9' long, 6" diameter treated wood with sharpened end.
Would an allied 1000 for a backhoe work the same way if fabed up?
As long as you use a large model skidsteer, you should be ok. Go back through the entire conversation, there is a complete description of how and why I built it the way it is. Good luck!
@@BentRZR i have a kubota 95 track loader with high flow. I was thinking of using a blank skid steer plate and welding the ho pac to it? Would that work? It's a hopac 1000?
did you have to set the hydraulic flow to the ho pac?
@@Cartwrightoutdoors I checked the max flow of the hoepac and compared it to the skidsteers output and pressure. Ensure you have the hoepac mounted properly! I mounted mine sideways, so the vibration didn't transfer directly to the frame. When you hook the lines up, make sure you know which way the hoepac spins and only flow that way. If you spin them in reverse, the locking bolt inside the motor will back off and you will loose all function. The rotation should be marked on the unit.
@@BentRZR I finally got mine fabed up.. can you explain what you mean by "make sure its turning the correct way"..
Hello (from down in New Zealand) I hope your daughter is getting on well with her horse - I'm a horseman and fencer down here! Older video now but I see you are still looking in sometimes.
I'm looking at building one of these units and wonder if you could please be as specific as possible about the specifications of your hoe-pac unit, I'd like to know its weight, power, oil flow required (both as speced and what you estimate it took i.e. how hard did you run the carrier). I note you were right onto it regards where to place the post guide ring!
interesting, but what if there happen to be a rock in the ground? we got a lot in my estate for sure!
Thanks Leo. The vibratory action, along with a sharpened post will help to displace smaller rocks but not large boulders.
Where is the horse I want to see them running
I read all the comments and replies and could not find an answer to this question. On your skidsteer mounting plate above the frame of the HoPac there seems to be a steel rib welded to the mounting plate going around the frame of the HoPac ???? Is this correct? Believing that it must be to distribute the vibrations of the HoPac more evenly on the plate frame ?? Also wondering it the HoPac is welded or bolted to the plate frame? I am thinking welded. What are the dimensions of the steel used for the "rib" surrounding the HoPac frame ??? I've been viewing this video for a couple years now and finally have everything to put one of these drivers together ! Just want to make sure I include all the features that yours has since yours seems so well thought out !!! Great tool ! Great video !!! Thanks !!! :-)
Hi John,
The mounting plate was pre fitted to the Skid steer system to ensure it would fit prior to welding it to the hoe pac frame. There is a stiffener welded to the mounting bracket to keep it from flexing.
That is awesome. Is that a plate compactor for an excavator that you started with?
Yup!
Yuz a bad dude!
Whats the reason a Shaver couldn't pound them posts? I have pounded plastic Forever posts in gravel driveways....not the fastest but wasn't too bad.
Hugh, Although I never observed this, my neighbor said he rented a heartland post pounder to build his fence. Using the same size posts, he said it was taking up to 45 minutes to do each post. The hard packed clay/sand in this area is ridiculous ! Never heard of Shaver pounders but as with anything, it depends on weight! I chose my method because of previous experience with tampers and oilfield pile driving...
@@BentRZR I had a Shaver 10 mounted on a Ditch Witch and pounded average 1/4 mile fences in a couple hours....that's 4" flat posts in Iowa. I fenced for 13 years and loved it for the most part doing quarter mile five strand barb in 7 hours and woven in about 8 1/2 hours. A pounder is the only way to go in my opinion. I did all my fence by myself. Im in NC now and did one fence here ...never again...whole state is rock...lol. Your set up might work better here than my pounder.
Did you buy the post already sharpened or did you sharpen them yourself and if you did, how did you do it?
Hey Lloyd, there are vendors all over Alberta that offer sharpened fence posts. I purchased mine from UFA and Co-op.
Do yo have any blue prints on this?
Also is that a low flow or high flow?
What size hoepac is that? Ive got an allied 1600 i mounted on my cat 297 but i mounted it the other direction...from the end. I found it shook the machine too much though. Perhaps from the side is a better route, yours runs smooth! Works fantastic on the excavator and with the hardened spikes i built it will break rock. I might have to try your mounting style to see if it runs any smother. Or maybe thats a little smaller hoepac than a 1600
+Travis 297c Hey Travis, your allied 1600 is one step up from the one I used. The reason I mounted my hoepac sideways was: the mounting plate would fit easier and the vibration would be absorbed left and right by the loader arms.
I think if you mount yours the same as mine...you will have a "Killer" post pounder!
+BentRZR thanks for the info. The impulse force on the 1600 is almost double the 1000 which i think would be the next size down but i never thought of it that way. It might make all the difference sideways. I do run my cap off center and my spike off center as well to generate more of a slap and hammer effect. Did you just weld your quick attack direct to the side of the hoepac? I might fab up some mounts so i can can still swap from excavator to skid steer. Cheers!
+Travis 297c Yes, I welded mine directly to the hoepac. I was worried that if I just bolted it, it could come loose and fall on whoever is holding the posts...lol
An allied hoepac here in Alberta runs about 11,000, which is why I bought an American brand, so I didn't need to worry about it. It cost me 3 grand and is the same size as my allied 1000, which has about 8,000 lbs of hitting force.
+BentRZR Im out in northwest BC. I lucked into an Allied for under 5000 in decent shape. Mine wasnt a pin on its just got the flat base on top for a q/a for a hoe to bolt to. I worry a bit as well but we keep a close eye on them! Cheers!
+BentRZR What brand did you buy? I am located in the Lowermainland of BC - for $3K - I would pick one up in a heart beat - looks pretty easy to fab the back onto it as well!! GREAT idea.
A fella could get a lot of work done with a machine like that.
How did you paint it, a spray gun?
Yes, an airless 110 V gun, it took 15- 5 gallon buckets of 10 year UFA white barn paint. It took about 12 hours.
just wondering if u made any of these units for sale? i would be intersted in buying one if u did.
Jason Becker I don't want to get in to the legalities of manufacturing a product for sale...sorry.
I need to rent that skid steer and driver
Do you think the next size model up would be too big for the job
+Mark vanDonkersgoed My John Deere CT332 skidsteer handles this hoepac with no issues, with it mounted sideways.
I think the limiting factor would be the flow that your skidsteer can provide. If you go with a larger hoepac, you may be disappointed because the heavier counterbalance may not revolve fast enough to give you the same (or more) hammer as a smaller one, because the skidsteer's pump can't flow the required gpm of fluid.
Maybe you should hook the hydraulic lines from the hoepac to your skidsteer and try it first, before committing to the build?
+BentRZR That makes sense what model of Demac is that i can't find any specs on those online i see a few for sale but having trouble finding any info on them.
+Mark vanDonkersgoed here is the same tamper: cochranauctions.hibid.com/lot/23147-53012-176302/2015-demac-mo--bhc8377-vibratory-plate-tamper-/
theres not much info out there, is there...
+Mark vanDonkersgoed i tried an allied 1600 which we figured was a size bigger and its too much. I have a 297 which is the largest cat skid they make. I picked up a npkc4 and mounted it sideways like this and its works awesome!
+Travis 297c Thanks for sharing your experience with the larger model. Will definitely be looking at the smaller models to see if i can pick one up. There aren't to many in my area like the one BentRZR used
Why such an expensive fence?
Where did you get the pounder from?
I bought the tamper from a company in Edmonton Alberta called Terra Firma
Bada bing Bada boom !
just like a Movax except without the jaws .
Wait if she asked for a horse and you built her a fence..... What happens if she asks for a fence ? Do you build a horse?
nice! but I don't know why you are showing the driver to come forward after the post has been inserted in the ground, its just a waste of fuel, time, and you arm will hurt after a while:) nice unit
the earth seemed so hard that i thought after half of meter insertion, its pointless to try straightening the post. nice vid nice unit keep on posting!
hes having to compensate for the motion of the boom. you have to do the same thing when augering a hole
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Hell of a dad....
Looking for a son
After seeing other versions of this tool either you have soft land or you need to show others how to make one of these because their's look slow
what exactly is the unit made of? how much did it cost you to make?
+waylon miller Sorry Waylon, I just seen your question now.
The unit is called a vibratory plate tamper. It is used to compact dirt. I fabricated an adapter plate to attach it to my skidsteer and modified it a bit to handle posts. The tampers cost between 3000 and 12,000 "new" depending on manufacturer but you can pick them up at auction fairly cheap.
try wheathartb post ponders
JUST SKIP THE FIRST 2 MINUTES!!! THE MACHINE ISN'T WORKING ON SCREEN UNTIL 2 MINUTES IN!!!
Incredible....Bobby Shah....shut up!
She meant a "Rocking Horse"
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I don’t understand haters in the comment section, if u didn’t like the vid move. If u think u can do better make a vid proving it or stfu.
I would say no horse for you
You're NOT through , YET! YOU need to install atleast (2) HOT wires along the entire fence run , otherwise your ponies will scratch their BIG asses on your shinny new fence and push IT OVER , over time ! BUT , you already knew this , RIGHT ?
Lol! Yup, I learned that lesson. I did install a single wire around the top and hooked up a solar powered electric fence. That stopped them from eating the top boards! Good observation 👍
all that for a horse it get lost in there
I could put all those posts in the ground , and slap that board up, in a 12 hour day.
Alright Craig, post a video showing your hydraulic pounder completing 5- 6" posts in a row without shutting the video camera off. This will give us a good time reference to prove your claim! Be careful because if you dry-fire those hydraulic breaker bar units, you will destroy them in minutes!
It took me and a friend a full 10 hours just to pound the posts with the tamper and the reason I chose a tamper over a breaker bar (which is what you are referring to) is because we have used plate tampers attached to track hoes to drive Steel piles in the patch for 25 years, yet I have never seen one breaker bar used...not once. Thats because they will detonate internally if you fire them with no resistance on the output end.
As for pushing the posts and hanging 3 layers of 2 x 6 boards in a 12 hour day.......pfft!
BentRZR 320 post in 8 hours 12 foot red pine (shit posts) for apple trellis, red rocky ground. You cut scenes its not 1 video shot the ground you got is definitely sand.... with a hydraulic boom i can pivot, tilt back and fourth. If im having a tough time with roots rocks etc i can plum the boom with post completely like a nail gun. Three sided boom for safety,
And your height is hideous
My daughter asked for a horse so we did to make a fence soon before winter.... Or just saying no ;)
I used this to install my posts, but I used 3in pipe.....Drove in 200 posts in 3hrs....
So if your daughter want's a ferrari you go out and get it? come on mate in life we don't always get what we want!
As stated above, My children get good marks in school, they are into sports, don't do drugs and are very respectful...I will do everything in my power to reward them for positive behavior.
Don't mind negative comments. Perhaps some are just jealous in life.
You did not state anything above. You don't give your kids what they want.
Hey SterlingK, There will always be dimwitted keyboard warriors who try trolling for arguments. I agree with you, they have issues that can't be resolved by discussion, so we are better off ignoring them. I could block their posts but I find it more satisfying leaving them for the amusement of others!
Cheers!
Cheers BentRZR. Love that post pounder. I did not know this existed. Keep up the good work.