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  • Опубликовано: 20 мар 2024
  • French regulators have said they have fined fined Alphabet's Google (GOOGL.O) 250 million euros ($271.73 million) for breaches linked to EU intellectual property rules.
    The fine cited concerns about the company's AI service.
    Google is involved in a dispute with media publishers about how much to pay for displaying news content in search results and other services.
    Google accepted the settlement.
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Комментарии • 162

  • @olajideparis
    @olajideparis 2 месяца назад +45

    Well, I think they will just consider this to be a licensing fee

    • @tomsatchel6460
      @tomsatchel6460 2 месяца назад +1

      News sources are subject to licence... Reuters, BBC, Associated Press etc - that's why they are credited in reporting as sources and paid accordingly... if the news sources are not compensated then they die out and there's no reliable source for them to scrape from.

  • @hallockstuart7899
    @hallockstuart7899 2 месяца назад +7

    this is a drop in the bucket for a company that made 86 billion last quarter

  • @techcafe0
    @techcafe0 2 месяца назад +14

    Greedy Google needs to pay its fair share, and pay taxes!

  • @BrAnDoN67k
    @BrAnDoN67k 2 месяца назад +11

    You think Google are bothered about a 250 million euro fine. That's lightwork for them 😂

    • @xx_Joker_xx
      @xx_Joker_xx 2 месяца назад

      It says euros, not dollars. Not that it's a huge difference, but there is a difference.

    • @jakel8627
      @jakel8627 2 месяца назад

      @@xx_Joker_xx
      Yeah. The euro is European. But the dollar is dollaradian.

    • @xx_Joker_xx
      @xx_Joker_xx 2 месяца назад

      @@jakel8627 lol... did it hurt your head thinking up "dollaradian"?

    • @ABC1701A
      @ABC1701A 2 месяца назад

      They pile up, they were fined millions here as well for breaching data confidentiality and selling it to the US govt - private and confidential medical information at that and they got caught out, prosecuted and fined - and sooner or later they WILL cop on that riding roughshod over everyone else isn't a good look either for publicity OR for their bank accounts.

    • @robinhood4640
      @robinhood4640 2 месяца назад

      If we all got fined 1.20 €, every time we broke the law, I'm pretty convinced we wouldn't give a damn either, and continue doing whatever the hell we want to, irrespective of whether it is illegal or not.

  • @happyjonn9242
    @happyjonn9242 2 месяца назад +8

    Google has been fined 1 luxury yacht. I'm sure they care....

  • @KentRoads
    @KentRoads 2 месяца назад +3

    that isn't contrary to copyright laws....

  • @CricketEngland
    @CricketEngland 2 месяца назад +27

    One word “GOOD”

  • @hdw1502
    @hdw1502 2 месяца назад +3

    Just pay 500m to cover the next fine that’s 100% coming.

  • @xcel5203
    @xcel5203 2 месяца назад +9

    Robber Barons of the twentyfirst century - Google, Amazon, Facebook ,Microsoft...

  • @MacrobianNomad
    @MacrobianNomad 2 месяца назад +7

    The 250m is a fraction of the money Google puts aside for paying fines just in a single year lol

    • @public.public
      @public.public 2 месяца назад +1

      Thanks next fine will be much higher then.

    • @NOT.MI5.MI6.
      @NOT.MI5.MI6. 2 месяца назад

      MORE INTERESTING BOTS
      how many YT act could you make if you did 1 a minute for 10 yrs 🤔 then throw in the clincher 1k a minute 😲 5 Million 😳 Because thats what I would do as a Russian Bot Farm whereas China look 👆 it and you won't be disappointed 😂 plus I'm being candid about the true numbers

  • @Novastar.SaberCombat
    @Novastar.SaberCombat 2 месяца назад +6

    If only humanity had ethics. But... nope. The only things that matter to collective mankind are coin, connections, crews, clout, computer code, control, corrupt communities, and shady opportunities. :/ Super unfortunate, but as I just stated... no ethics present.

    • @LeonDegrelle.z
      @LeonDegrelle.z 2 месяца назад

      You sound like you live in Russia lol

  • @espurr3496
    @espurr3496 2 месяца назад +7

    You wanna use copyrighted material to train your ai then pay up.

    • @MyHandelsMessiah
      @MyHandelsMessiah 2 месяца назад +1

      Freely published articles on the Internet Internet are not copyrighted material
      If you don't want some thing to be viewed by another person or computer program, don't publish it on the damn Internet

    • @ABC1701A
      @ABC1701A 2 месяца назад +3

      @@MyHandelsMessiah then I assume that also applies to books - freely available to read in your local library = and anything else written down and available to the public. Just because something is PUBLISHED - and this is simply what the internet is doing in regards to news articles, books etc - DOES NOT mean you can steal it, use it, change it, effectively plagiarise it to make money from it. How about the entire Harry Potter series of books, they are ALL published and available in the public domain so do you think they they should NOT subject to copyright restrictions because there is no real difference between them, a newspaper article (also copyrighted) and an online media article.

  • @DanipBlog
    @DanipBlog 2 месяца назад +4

    I'm sorry but I feel like if those news articles are up on the internet for anyone to read, they are free to use.
    I've always used the exact same method to train my models

    • @Anonymous9683
      @Anonymous9683 2 месяца назад +1

      So you work to write up a series of articles explaining current affairs and scientific concepts and spend the time reviewing products and services and then a model built by a private company scrapes that work and generates immense wealth for itself by replacing your own utility? Not sure that tracks… but at the end of the day that’s how you make something groundbreaking - feed it everything.

    • @truthseeker1934
      @truthseeker1934 2 месяца назад +3

      That's not how copyright works. Just because you can consume it doesn't mean you can alter, replicate, and sell it.

  • @public.public
    @public.public 2 месяца назад +4

    Remind me ...
    Why are we all working so hard to make billionaires into trillionaires?

    • @stequality
      @stequality 2 месяца назад

      The public are in full support of this and even vote for it

    • @King_SPL
      @King_SPL Месяц назад

      no choice, we have to put food on the table and pay rent. we’re trapped

    • @stequality
      @stequality Месяц назад

      @@King_SPL your right, but it was voted for by the public, they want this

  • @Kenny-tl7ir
    @Kenny-tl7ir 2 месяца назад +1

    What a stupid thing to do. Google should just straight up not pay the fine and let them moan.

  • @maximeprometheas
    @maximeprometheas 2 месяца назад +2

    "Family is everything." - I have a feeling that that Ubisoft A.I. was trained on the Fast and Furious movies...

  • @public.public
    @public.public 2 месяца назад +2

    Visual artists next in line to sue.

  • @karannchew2534
    @karannchew2534 2 месяца назад +2

    "Interesting"

  • @Makes_me_wonder
    @Makes_me_wonder Месяц назад +1

    Just the cost of doing business

  • @ius1141
    @ius1141 2 месяца назад +3

    this demiurge ai is not ethical the ai is basically what that is that is something that destroys

  • @mikeong80
    @mikeong80 2 месяца назад +6

    Seems like a cashcow for them ...

  • @Blueprint4Murder
    @Blueprint4Murder 2 месяца назад +1

    I would not be shocked if individuals started sueing them for taking scraping there data.

    • @addanametocontinue
      @addanametocontinue 2 месяца назад

      As they should. Everything used to train AI is original content created by people. Art, news articles, etc.

  • @ius1141
    @ius1141 2 месяца назад +2

    gog and magog will cover the earth for war but the earth will cover gog and magog ruined by the hunger for power

  • @Travis_LTE
    @Travis_LTE 2 месяца назад +2

    Make it one billion $

  • @HarryXiao88
    @HarryXiao88 2 месяца назад

    Google should be paying for the usage of the copyrighted material and the publisher the newspaper should be benefited. Instead, its a fine. And who get the money?

  • @Sky-yi9nc
    @Sky-yi9nc 2 месяца назад +22

    If you want to use copyrighted material then pay for it.

    • @user-ds8rj2vc4v
      @user-ds8rj2vc4v 2 месяца назад +7

      That's not how it works when you publish content online for free.

    • @KaustabhBarman
      @KaustabhBarman 2 месяца назад

      @@user-ds8rj2vc4v That is exactly how it works, you cannot just take published content for free and use it to make profit.

    • @shamrock141
      @shamrock141 2 месяца назад

      ​@@user-ds8rj2vc4vit is when you use it for commercial benefit

    • @000999zebra
      @000999zebra 2 месяца назад

      @@user-ds8rj2vc4vso if i post my artwork on instagram brands can steal it and use it? Lol thats not how it works buddy

    • @Matazuma
      @Matazuma 2 месяца назад +2

      Funny how people can't steal copyrighted material but corporations can

  • @BW-81
    @BW-81 2 месяца назад +1

    Congratulations on your new book, Madhumita Murgia!

  • @weeroger7048
    @weeroger7048 2 месяца назад +2

    It looks at what the phone camera is pointed at
    It defo knows what clothes I'm wearing
    It knows if I'd had a shave

  • @speedboostr
    @speedboostr 2 месяца назад

    I think Instead of talking to someone in India we’ll be talking to AI

  • @mrc0157
    @mrc0157 2 месяца назад +1

    Excellent!

  • @tedtedtedtedted
    @tedtedtedtedted 2 месяца назад +1

    intellectual content and french news !
    am i the only one who see's the problem ?

  • @A3Kr0n
    @A3Kr0n 2 месяца назад

    I'm glad I don't get fined for reading things. What has this world become?

  • @DailyMotivationShortsOfficial
    @DailyMotivationShortsOfficial 2 месяца назад +1

    Only one word " Best " 👍

  • @PseudocodePro
    @PseudocodePro 2 месяца назад

    Who does that $271 million go to? Seems like mafia tactics

  • @andrescastro4836
    @andrescastro4836 2 месяца назад +3

    Artificial Idiocy? Remember who has created it.

  • @ius1141
    @ius1141 2 месяца назад +1

    the scythian is doing his usual selling of culture

  • @cezaryadamski8786
    @cezaryadamski8786 2 месяца назад

    This fine should be 250 billion euro. We Europeans have to milk US tech companies with fines and taxes.

  • @Husky_Passion
    @Husky_Passion Месяц назад

    oops the biggest army in the world has zero defenses : movies, right ?

  • @giantisopod
    @giantisopod 2 месяца назад

    So when will Microsoft pay all of the open source developers on whose code they illegally trained CoPilot? Or do only news organizations get special treatment?

  • @ius1141
    @ius1141 2 месяца назад +1

    the golden horde of fools they wander to a nation of ruin

  • @Psycandy
    @Psycandy 2 месяца назад

    France: you pay now. Google: Or what? If we go, we take Google Maps with us. France: Okay Plan B, what about a nice big yacht? As a gift? Google: You mean another one. France: Another, much bigger one.

  • @ius1141
    @ius1141 2 месяца назад +1

    the scythians wagon dwelling nomads to imitate the culture they do not understand

  • @resolverresolver5812
    @resolverresolver5812 2 месяца назад +1

    The cause nd foundation of the problem is Italy nd France Paris, America, Napolitano, Napoli, Taranto, Torino, Sardegna, Rome* ::///:/! /! ((---

  • @user-mj9rc4mq6t
    @user-mj9rc4mq6t 2 месяца назад +1

    Money.😂

  • @thatguyswavomeer
    @thatguyswavomeer 2 месяца назад

    Sure, let's listen to a NPC game bot talking blurb for two minutes so that we don't have to deal with corporation underpaying its contractors. That makes sense.

  • @ga_s6
    @ga_s6 2 месяца назад +1

    Cmon, songs lyrics are just a sum of our expcs. AI songs are no diferent, lets be honest, shaw we ?

  • @theRosaryMerchant
    @theRosaryMerchant Месяц назад

    HEADLINES...

  • @pauldannelachica2388
    @pauldannelachica2388 2 месяца назад +1

    ❤❤❤❤❤

  • @jetli740
    @jetli740 Месяц назад

    when AI became useful, I am sure google will have special higher price for eu when they want to use it.

  • @ius1141
    @ius1141 2 месяца назад +1

    an Ridirean
    the Knights they will defeat the enemy

  • @sajjadali2155
    @sajjadali2155 2 месяца назад +1

    Cyclops aww

  • @jared9643
    @jared9643 2 месяца назад

    Most movies are already unoriginal, look at the Rock's yearly summer blockbuster. And they always do good because the Rock is great and so is Kevin Hart and they're attached by an umbilical cord. It would save them time to write, and KH can just throw in jokes whenever he wants.

  • @megaflux7144
    @megaflux7144 2 месяца назад +2

    why should countries like iran, reussia, or the congo benefit from the insane amount of money countries like the united states have sunk in to AI? ubisoft moving further from using actual humans for support roles is the least surprising thing in the world.

  • @FLORIDIANMILLIONAIRE
    @FLORIDIANMILLIONAIRE Месяц назад

    Hopefully these fines make their way into pockets of fine french citizens so they can buy themselves some nice sandwiches

  • @liar-liar
    @liar-liar 2 месяца назад +3

    World should follow France

  • @BC.83
    @BC.83 2 месяца назад +4

    Hey France, when you get the check make sure you forward it to Africa. Then maybe you will see prosperity

    • @Dougie-ex1ov
      @Dougie-ex1ov 2 месяца назад +2

      lol what? Why would they send it to Africa. Africa should get its own money.

    • @cagliari5984
      @cagliari5984 2 месяца назад +2

      Africa is a continent of 54 countries. Why on earth would the French give a cent to any of them? Colonization card I'm presuming?

    • @Dougie-ex1ov
      @Dougie-ex1ov 2 месяца назад +2

      @@cagliari5984 Has to be. Just give us money cause we are corrupt and lazy.

    • @Seif.Adlan.
      @Seif.Adlan. 2 месяца назад

      @@Dougie-ex1ov Are you seriously undermining the amount of damage that the french colonization has done to many African countries. If google is fined millions and it hasn't even killed a soul. France should be charged billions for the amount of lives taken away by colonization. Talking about double standards...... and White supremacy....

    • @Dougie-ex1ov
      @Dougie-ex1ov 2 месяца назад +2

      @@Seif.Adlan. No thats you living in victimhood. Instead of doing something about it now you just cry about what has been done instead of taking control of what is now, working with what you have and making things better for yourself instead of blaming others. Thats like me complaining I had a drunk for a father who beat me so I dont have a good job now bc of that. But I got an education and worked hard to get some money and take care of myself and not do the same to others....

  • @ius1141
    @ius1141 2 месяца назад +1

    woe to the magi woe the double minded people woe to zoroaster and where is your empire its the sand

  • @josipaksamovic229
    @josipaksamovic229 2 месяца назад +2

    AI can do much better than that, …but it really needs to calculate the “best realistic case scenario” regarding the consequences.
    ( & it really doesn’t help much to have a “supreme role models” in Biden and Trump - which, it clearly does have … or, they simply use it that much ).
    AI’s favorite communication methods are definitely not through words or speech. It can do much better with numbers and pretty much everything else.
    (After all, why would it show us what it can do… that cheaply.)

  • @jhgfghjfuzrtfchchghgf
    @jhgfghjfuzrtfchchghgf 2 месяца назад

    Again bbc shows their hotrible quality of journalism. Using french government baked study to "proof" what the french government sais. A shame. Ligic only bbc can apply

  • @LeonDegrelle.z
    @LeonDegrelle.z 2 месяца назад +3

    speaking of AI we had 2 phones with voice turned on speach recognition linked to AI chat bots 😂 we only did a few mods scripts etc but got them chatting to each other hilarious 😂 they go abit crazy TBO if you leave them to it but still good stuff

  • @TheKatiokung
    @TheKatiokung 2 месяца назад

    Simpsons V.P.N. meme

  • @Ilfrinco
    @Ilfrinco 2 месяца назад

    chump change

  • @shabbirmanji4190
    @shabbirmanji4190 2 месяца назад

    😂😅 Typical french culprit culture

  • @izra18
    @izra18 Месяц назад

    I think it time learn india , how can earn money by blackmailing

  • @ReklessDemon-sz5dk
    @ReklessDemon-sz5dk 2 месяца назад

    Another example where europe interference causes job losses all over the world.

    • @wiseass2149
      @wiseass2149 2 месяца назад +1

      A.I. is going to end jobs as we know it. Google will be fine. They laying people off any way.

  • @ChiakiShirakawa
    @ChiakiShirakawa 2 месяца назад +2

    I am surprised that they seem to be not speaking in ordinary British English pronunciation that I have known.

    • @syed407
      @syed407 2 месяца назад +1

      Yeah , actual British accent is complicated to understand if we communicate face to face a British citizen I guess.

    • @NOT.MI5.MI6.
      @NOT.MI5.MI6. 2 месяца назад

      ​@@syed407 OK Hassan 😂

    • @NOT.MI5.MI6.
      @NOT.MI5.MI6. 2 месяца назад

      ​@@syed407 Iranian

    • @syed407
      @syed407 2 месяца назад

      @@NOT.MI5.MI6. I'm not Iranian btw

    • @NOT.MI5.MI6.
      @NOT.MI5.MI6. 2 месяца назад

      @@syed407 😴

  • @Pedro-dd8fm
    @Pedro-dd8fm 2 месяца назад

    That guy speaks funny.

  • @NOT.MI5.MI6.
    @NOT.MI5.MI6. 2 месяца назад

    MORE INTERESTING BOTS
    how many YT act could you make if you did 1 a minute for 10 yrs 🤔 then throw in the clincher 1k a minute 😲 5 Million 😳 Because thats what I would do as a Russian Bot Farm whereas China look 👆 it and you won't be disappointed 😂

  • @MohammedAwutah
    @MohammedAwutah 2 месяца назад

    BLACK AND WHITE FAMILY TOGETHER WE ARE AND TOGETHER WE CAN DO IT LET US WELCOME THE FUTURE AND SAY NO TO THE THIRD WORLD WAR AND CHOSE FREEDOM TO THE PROMISE LAND A NEW WORLD TO COME 🎉😂🤣🤩😍🇬🇧🇬🇭

  • @RaxLakhani
    @RaxLakhani 2 месяца назад +2

    Not sure where I stand on this. If content that has previously been published online and indexed by engines such as Google for search purposes, it becomes fair game to be linked to or commented on by the wider public. Using it to train AI models seems OK.
    But for copyrighted content that hasn't been made available for free on the Internet by the original author should not be used by Google or Openai as a dataset trainer.
    Transparency is essential if these sort of issues are ever going to be easily resolved in the future.

    • @danhaydon7291
      @danhaydon7291 2 месяца назад

      You heard of fair use?

    • @MyHandelsMessiah
      @MyHandelsMessiah 2 месяца назад

      @@danhaydon7291 that is precisely what the guy is pointing out. If you publish something on the Internet for free, it's fair use for training in AI models. If you don't publish it for free, then it's not fair use.

  • @GabePerez7050Real
    @GabePerez7050Real 2 месяца назад

    Huh TRAIN

  • @paul13561
    @paul13561 2 месяца назад

    All media people have a job that hard to replace by AI

    • @paulgibbons2320
      @paulgibbons2320 2 месяца назад +1

      How wrong you are. I think half of what you are looking at is artificially created.

    • @LeonDegrelle.z
      @LeonDegrelle.z 2 месяца назад

      ​​​@@paulgibbons2320 no it's not they have to go by British broadcasting laws so no AI allowed unless stated official your thinking of Russian Iran etc

    • @paulgibbons2320
      @paulgibbons2320 2 месяца назад

      @LeonDegrelle. nothing on the Internet is covered by any of that. The mainstream media of yesterday is now second string media.

    • @paulgibbons2320
      @paulgibbons2320 2 месяца назад

      @LeonDegrelle. as if that got removed come on..

    • @LeonDegrelle.z
      @LeonDegrelle.z 2 месяца назад

      @@paulgibbons2320 did I unplug you

  • @keibohow69
    @keibohow69 2 месяца назад +1

    if machines created and coded by humans, their are artifical intelligent, so what are we to GOD. If not machines created by GOD and coded by GOD?
    So the question must be asked is there artifical intelligence or just intelligence?
    Also what really is intelligence?
    Also if humans are so intelligent what do humans need with machines to do their thinking for them.

  • @newmankidman5763
    @newmankidman5763 2 месяца назад

    Google should not pay a penny

  • @auro1986
    @auro1986 2 месяца назад

    bbc can make better news