Such an unorthodox player back then. Sat about 12” off the ground, tilted the snare way forward in his knees and buried the beater constantly. If you see Vinnie today all these bad habits are gone.
Vinnie is just an absolute beast. I listen to and watch and I often feel like he’s sometimes speaking in another language and saying things that I don’t understand because they are so advanced and so conceptually out there. I wish could have seen him in concert with Zappa.
Holy FUCK he rips. I've always heard the name, never sat down and listened to the guy. Amazing sounding kit, first of all. Everything is in a perfect cohesion. And the playing is masterfully unique. What a monster, I've been playing seriously and "professionally" to a degree for about six years and I'm ashamed to be introducing myself to this wizard so late. Sorry Bruford, I've got another master to learn from now.
Well per Zappa's book....Vinnie got Frank's personal award for not wandering with the tempo and not playing all over Franks time. High praise indeed from a guy who has played with Bozzio, Dunsbar, Billy Cobham, Wackerman, Jimmy Black....and on and on...
@@globextradingsystemsllc1740 so you're a self proclaimed expert on who should be in Frank's band, including Frank himself. I'll give you this; your arrogance and ego far excedes any notion of being a clever sort.
@@globextradingsystemsllc1740 You are probably very very alone with your opinion. Vinnie and Frank had a gigantic synergy. I think I've seen this type of comment of you on another place (Actual proof...) , for some reason you hate Vinnie. Save me your explanation Vinnie is playing sloppy, I find it ridiculous.
Vinnie C from Zappa to Megadeth. No other drummer has such a range and his technique’s not bad either. Clearly that is understatement. Once I could play Led Zeppelin I thought I had completed drums then a friend gave me Joe’s Garage. Phenomenal player. When non drummers get tumescent about certain well known rock drummers this is who they should be listening to.
Why can’t you guys be happy that he’s an ‘American’? Sure, VC had parentage from Italy and that blood will forever remain in his system. But for god’s sake, be proud that he’s a son of the USA and stop the needless search for past genealogical glories. It’s simply not relevant. And if if is, then that’s his choice. I see him first as a great musician and then an American from Pennsylvania! 🥁
I still use rotos. At least the 6 ". They don't make shelled 6" Drums anymore, except maybe for marching band. It doesn' t have tone, though. It is resonance that you are hearing. The other toms are dead.
Check out Chad Wackerman's solos during the live versions of "Let's Move To Cleveland" also. This one's from Sept. 1st 1984: ruclips.net/video/L2PTmKMM6iU/видео.html
My pleasure, man! I actually just listened back to that link I shared & it's not the one I thought it was lol. His solo is more expanded in other versions...but man, the band was always on their A-game when they played that piece!
Youthful enthusiasm. I had it once. And after 8 years of playing, I was this good. I suck now, compared to what I could do back then. Basically, I knew enough about playing drums to not suck, but youthful enough to not know, I wasn't that great. Also youthful enough to power and speed through things to make it sound like I was good. Now that I am old, I realize, I am not a very good drummer. After reading this, it sounds conviluted. I just know, listening to old recordings, I seemed a hell of alot more confident when I played. Now, I question myself. I did play better back then.
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz……….See my response to Zolar Czakl above! He’s a f***ing American, geddit? I’m from Scotland and my father was from Lithuania but I am simply proud just to be SCOTTISH and don’t need to be recognised as Lithuanian-Scottish! It all sounds so desperate having to constantly remind everyone where your ‘roots’ (or a part of them) actually lie. I know of my roots but I don’t feel the need to justify bringing them into the equation over and over again, mainly because I’m delighted with where I am NOW and not reliant on the distant past! Oh….greetings from John O’Groats 🏴…..!!
@@2earache The difference is that the Scottish are an ethnicity, while "Americans" aren't. Frank Zappa was ethnically a Sicilian, so an Italian, I don't mind that he was "American".
@@masterjunky863….here’s how to go about it. You’re completely determined to miss my point at hand, aren’t you! I don’t care that he was an Italian, an Eskimo or a Kumquat! He, no doubt (should he consider it), was proud of his Italian heritage. Great! My issue when it was raised was and still remains is WHY so many Americans (most notably) - and who are admittedly ethnically diverse because of the nature of the ‘birth’ of their country, not forgetting the original Native Americans of course - are forever on the path of processing their ancestry almost out of desperation not because it’s an informative and satisfying avenue to seek, but because it’s almost become a necessity without which their country and families wouldn’t have the societal glue to remain intact. Do you see where I’m coming from? It’s a wonderful feeling to be curious and proud of one’s roots and that knowledge can create a much larger and colourful picture in terms of family. But I believe America has now got to that point of no return in that it is culturally such a diverse place in so many ways and they have become the most modern Empire of the times - although all Empires do have a habit of inevitable loss of influence and collapse as they no doubt have been realising! It IS a country unto itself with American citizens unto themselves! It is a place, a country of its own just like Ecuador, Jamaica, Norway or even Monaco. I just want to throw these two examples in on the basis of us being that human animal, to highlight that the United States does indeed measure up to the ethnics of what makes a country but also integral to that, is the subject of race which most certainly plays a vital role. Incidentally, in Scotland there are 2nd and 3rd and 4th generation Scots who come from, originally, entirely different countries and backgrounds. Throwing Scotland into the ‘Ethnic’ box alone therefore, doesn’t wash! Ethnicity’ describes the culture of a people in a given geographic region, including their language, heritage, religion and customs. ‘Race’, on the other hand, refers to the concept of dividing people into groups on the basis of various sets of physical characteristics and the process of ascribing social meaning to those groups.
The stuff Vinnie played with Frank I do not believe has been fully digested by the drumming community you listen to the shut up and play your guitar albums of their live shows...a song like 5/5/5 the level of polyrhythmic improvisation Vinnie is playing at breakneck speeds....WAY ahead of the curve in a "rock" setting, ridiculous playing
It's so cool to see Vinnie playing at this early stage...and hearing the few mistakes he makes. Plus that incredibly low drum stool! He would later go on to never cause comments like this.
He was young and probably on drugs. Older Vinnie became a beast of precision but always playing on the edge of a cliff, playing the most insane and daring stuff with an extraterrestrial fluidity.
He was sitting like 10" off the floor during this era - Looks so cool - but hard on the back --- also was playing more matched grip at this time - even tho he is a traditional grip guy!...
The drumming of the DVD-A Halloween which features the track titled "Zeets" is spacially placed to fly all around the room in a circle around you. I mean, it isn't a natural way to hear a drum solo, but technically interesting.
As a member of the audience that night trust me we were cheering as we had just seen Vinnie for the first time as Terry Bozzio was FZ drummer for the previous 3 years
I think Terry bozzio was the best sounding with Frank. I love Vinnie's playin to death but when it comes to playing frank's music nobody does it better than bozzio. Vinny 2nd and then Chad wackerman 3rd. Chad wackerman was the longest standing drummer with Zappa. All 3 of those guys are very close but so unique and so different in their playing. But I guess if I enjoyed someone's playing the most when it was with Frank it had To be TERRY Bozzio. But as an all around drummer I don't think it gets any better than Vinny or Steve gadd. But a drummer that had the biggest impression on my life, it's bill Bruford.
Everyone's a bit different. It took me a while to decide my personal #1. Vinnie vs Terry. Both so explosive and avalanches of energy. To me, Vinnie is a bit more jawdropping, always coming with a surprise, always coming from an unexpected angle. Just wanted to share
That's Arthur Barrow the bass player. Edit: At 2:30 it's Patrick O'Hearn. In 1978 Zappa had 2 bass players in the band for a while (check out Zappa SNL 1978)
Vinnie might be the most technically skilled overall drummer alive. Dave Weckl and Steve Gadd are his main challengers, I'd say. Neil Peart, Terry Bozzio, Billy Cobham, Rod Morgenstein, Stewart Copeland, John Bonham, and Keith Moon would round out the top ten. Mitch Mitchell, Ginger Baker, Danny Carey, Ian Paice, Mike Portnoy, Al Jackson Jr., etc as honorable mentions.
pete g Sorry, that was my rock list but I didn't mention that. I also said it was a list of the greatest overall drummers alive, and it started off okay until I started listing drummers who are dead. As for jazz, yeah, some of my faves are Buddy Rich, Art Blakey, Tony Williams, Max Roach, Jack DeJohnette, Jimmy Cobb, Joe Morello, Alex Acuna, Dennis Chambers, Gene Krupa, and more I can't think of right now.
Christian Gasior It's so damned hard to make such lists because it's so easy to get distracted by names outside of the original idea for the list! I've done it, too.
My drummer I work with a lot had the set of 3 smallest but in the last two years he's collected all the sizes and has a monstrously huge set with all of them in there. Way too much fun.
@@Farksisten - * *Farksisten,* * No....that's the bass player at 2:31, Mr. Patrick O'hearn. Watch close. He leans in and drops two notes during the solo!!!!!
Ohhh Vinny I love your nails you big walrus...as a pure musician bad ass fucking drummer Vinnie was it 4 Zappa but the best fit for the music was Terry bozzio(I still think bozzio is a badass motherfuker to in his drum solos to me we're just as good).... Wackerman had some good chops to
I'll take Ralph Humphrey over Vinnie any day of the week. He can groove. Technical does not = Great. Vinnie's stint with Jeff Beck was horrific imho. Stepped all over Jeff's tasty licks. I know many will hate on me, but as a professional drummer for over 50 years that's just my 2 cents.
hippydippy. I get that with Jeff. incredible stuff but crazy busy. yet he grooves with sting so he can do it. I never really cared for his snare tone either.
he's not considering technique and only evaluating on what the music makes him personally feel like, which is fine. everyone knows vinnie blows everyone out of the way technically
i am with you 100% Paul. Vinnie can definitely do both, but some people only want one. His creative side really messes with people I've noticed, and they don't appreciate the subtleties in his grooves
i think it's so amazing that the generation vinnie inspired to go to college and study music, or sit around in their parents' basement and just practice all day, they still can't hold a candle to him
Vinnie overplays sometimes. Yet on some records he is so inside the music it's insane. As with any player, there are some times where there is a mismatch somewhere.
Vinnie is 22 years old here 😯
I'm always blown away at how low he sat in those days.
Such an unorthodox player back then. Sat about 12” off the ground, tilted the snare way forward in his knees and buried the beater constantly. If you see
Vinnie today all these bad habits are gone.
Vinnie is just an absolute beast. I listen to and watch and I often feel like he’s sometimes speaking in another language and saying things that I don’t understand because they are so advanced and so conceptually out there. I wish could have seen him in concert with Zappa.
1:43 “I knew I shoulda hired this kid” - F. Zappa
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Beat Down love your channel.
1:43 I love how Frank is just sitting having a smoke while all this is going down 🤣
LOL.
Holy FUCK he rips. I've always heard the name, never sat down and listened to the guy. Amazing sounding kit, first of all. Everything is in a perfect cohesion. And the playing is masterfully unique. What a monster, I've been playing seriously and "professionally" to a degree for about six years and I'm ashamed to be introducing myself to this wizard so late. Sorry Bruford, I've got another master to learn from now.
Well per Zappa's book....Vinnie got Frank's personal award for not wandering with the tempo and not playing all over Franks time. High praise indeed from a guy who has played with Bozzio, Dunsbar, Billy Cobham, Wackerman, Jimmy Black....and on and on...
Over rated and not a good fit for Frank.
@@globextradingsystemsllc1740 so you're a self proclaimed expert on who should be in Frank's band, including Frank himself. I'll give you this; your arrogance and ego far excedes any notion of being a clever sort.
@@martianshoes
Cobham wasn't in Zappa's band, but they were in the same concert hall when Cobham was in Mahavishnu Orchestra.
@@globextradingsystemsllc1740
You are probably very very alone with your opinion.
Vinnie and Frank had a gigantic synergy.
I think I've seen this type of comment of you on another place (Actual proof...) , for some reason you hate Vinnie. Save me your explanation Vinnie is playing sloppy, I find it ridiculous.
Love the textures of this solo,using alot of sonic flavours combined with his sublime technique.
Nice shot of Frank watching Vinnie!
He is watching how the crowd reacts.
@@erikkroll2154 Yep, Frank being Frank. "If the audience approves, maybe, just maybe he'll get another solo spot." lol
Vinnie C from Zappa to Megadeth. No other drummer has such a range and his technique’s not bad either. Clearly that is understatement. Once I could play Led Zeppelin I thought I had completed drums then a friend gave me Joe’s Garage. Phenomenal player. When non drummers get tumescent about certain well known rock drummers this is who they should be listening to.
That snare angle is nuts.
What’s even crazier to me is how LOW he is sitting lol.
I used to do that as well. Hard on the Wrists.
Monstrously prodigious drummer on his A game. Zappa was about to open the funkin clouds!
The one and only Vincent Colaiuta. The Best!
Basically, everybody on stage is just appreciating some worldclass drumming
Traditional grip has its place in the game but you can't argue the efficiency of matched grips! Go Vinne!
Damn what a beautiful drum solo
Soooo musical
Brilliant, as always. And, at 22, no less.
He was 22 here?! Holy shit!
Vinnie is one of the best for sure , I had the privilege of seeing him with Jeff Beck a few years ago ,
"Let's hear it for another great Italian, ladies and gentlemen... Vinnie Colaiuta!"
Why can’t you guys be happy that he’s an ‘American’? Sure, VC had parentage from Italy and that blood will forever remain in his system. But for god’s sake, be proud that he’s a son of the USA and stop the needless search for past genealogical glories. It’s simply not relevant. And if if is, then that’s his choice. I see him first as a great musician and then an American from Pennsylvania! 🥁
Think the Creativity comes from the environment what Zappa Create with different talentet Musician
Way way ahead of his time, just look at Zappa he can't fucking believe it
Meanwhile, Zappa is sitting there analyzing the solo and coming up with a whole host of ideas and
maybe even a few songs on the side.
Definitely enjoying the smoke though as well.
I love how the Roto Toms have more tone than the rest of the kit. Seventies, baby!
Your not hearing front of house sound...just the camera from back in the day. Like standing on the side of the stage basically
This is a board mix.
Eric Bailey m
I only want to listen to vinnie play the rotos..
I still use rotos. At least the 6 ". They don't make shelled 6" Drums anymore, except maybe for marching band. It doesn' t have tone, though. It is resonance that you are hearing. The other toms are dead.
Tony Williams influence coming through on this one.
He did even have the yellow kit, inspired by Williams. :-)
Definitely, and Eric Cravatt and Peter Erskine in Weather Report
@@musopaul5407 Focal Point!
How does he play so great and be so tense? I've always wondered that when I watch him play.
Only a few drum solos in all of FRANK Zappa's music!!!!!! Terry Bozio does a great one also...
Check out Chad Wackerman's solos during the live versions of "Let's Move To Cleveland" also. This one's from Sept. 1st 1984:
ruclips.net/video/L2PTmKMM6iU/видео.html
@@ListenToManicAntenna Thanks bro, Chad has some CHOPS to be sure 👍
My pleasure, man! I actually just listened back to that link I shared & it's not the one I thought it was lol. His solo is more expanded in other versions...but man, the band was always on their A-game when they played that piece!
@@ListenToManicAntenna BIGTIME!!!!!
He started playing at 14. My question is how at age 22 he could already play like this.???
Maciej Krzyżyński it’s a gift
@T C Sounds good :). Thanks.
Practice practice practice...
Youthful enthusiasm. I had it once. And after 8 years of playing, I was this good. I suck now, compared to what I could do back then. Basically, I knew enough about playing drums to not suck, but youthful enough to not know, I wasn't that great. Also youthful enough to power and speed through things to make it sound like I was good. Now that I am old, I realize, I am not a very good drummer.
After reading this, it sounds conviluted. I just know, listening to old recordings, I seemed a hell of alot more confident when I played. Now, I question myself. I did play better back then.
He certainly did not start playing at 14 my friend. Way earlier. He started when he was a kid, like 6 or 7
You should credit Vinnie Colaiuta for this amazing solo!
1:41 great shot of Frank Zappa
Italian-Americans are incredible! Greetigs from Milan. 🇮🇹🇮🇹🇮🇹
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz……….See my response to Zolar Czakl above! He’s a f***ing American, geddit? I’m from Scotland and my father was from Lithuania but I am simply proud just to be SCOTTISH and don’t need to be recognised as Lithuanian-Scottish! It all sounds so desperate having to constantly remind everyone where your ‘roots’ (or a part of them) actually lie. I know of my roots but I don’t feel the need to justify bringing them into the equation over and over again, mainly because I’m delighted with where I am NOW and not reliant on the distant past! Oh….greetings from John O’Groats 🏴…..!!
@@2earache The difference is that the Scottish are an ethnicity, while "Americans" aren't. Frank Zappa was ethnically a Sicilian, so an Italian, I don't mind that he was "American".
@@masterjunky863….here’s how to go about it. You’re completely determined to miss my point at hand, aren’t you! I don’t care that he was an Italian, an Eskimo or a Kumquat! He, no doubt (should he consider it), was proud of his Italian heritage. Great! My issue when it was raised was and still remains is WHY so many Americans (most notably) - and who are admittedly ethnically diverse because of the nature of the ‘birth’ of their country, not forgetting the original Native Americans of course - are forever on the path of processing their ancestry almost out of desperation not because it’s an informative and satisfying avenue to seek, but because it’s almost become a necessity without which their country and families wouldn’t have the societal glue to remain intact.
Do you see where I’m coming from? It’s a wonderful feeling to be curious and proud of one’s roots and that knowledge can create a much larger and colourful picture in terms of family. But I believe America has now got to that point of no return in that it is culturally such a diverse place in so many ways and they have become the most modern Empire of the times - although all Empires do have a habit of inevitable loss of influence and collapse as they no doubt have been realising! It IS a country unto itself with American citizens unto themselves!
It is a place, a country of its own just like Ecuador, Jamaica, Norway or even Monaco.
I just want to throw these two examples in on the basis of us being that human animal, to highlight that the United States does indeed measure up to the ethnics of what makes a country but also integral to that, is the subject of race which most certainly plays a vital role. Incidentally, in Scotland there are 2nd and 3rd and 4th generation Scots who come from, originally, entirely different countries and backgrounds. Throwing Scotland into the ‘Ethnic’ box alone therefore, doesn’t wash!
Ethnicity’ describes the culture of a people in a given geographic region, including their language, heritage, religion and customs. ‘Race’, on the other hand, refers to the concept of dividing people into groups on the basis of various sets of physical characteristics and the process of ascribing social meaning to those groups.
22 years old !! Unreal
I'm not normally the biggest drum solo guy but..... woh.
Magnifico .
very impressive!
does anyone have tabs for this
LOLOLOL
There are two kinds of players. Either, you have to have tabs or you can listen to it and figure it out. I am the latter.
@@erikkroll2154 Actually you sound like an asshole that sucks and never accomplished anything. lol
@@tonyjackson4099 you can assume all you want, doesn't make a difference.
@@erikkroll2154"This channel doesn't have any content."
1:59 - 2:00
What was he playing on there?
I love this so much! Thanks for sharing.👍🏻
Is that possible! Fucking incredible 😁👍🌿
His snare and cymbal angles were way different back then!
VINNIE!!!!!
❤❤❤❤ love this.
Great drumsolo.
Unrealll!!:))
The stuff Vinnie played with Frank I do not believe has been fully digested by the drumming community you listen to the shut up and play your guitar albums of their live shows...a song like 5/5/5 the level of polyrhythmic improvisation Vinnie is playing at breakneck speeds....WAY ahead of the curve in a "rock" setting, ridiculous playing
It's so cool to see Vinnie playing at this early stage...and hearing the few mistakes he makes. Plus that incredibly low drum stool! He would later go on to never cause comments like this.
He was young and probably on drugs. Older Vinnie became a beast of precision but always playing on the edge of a cliff, playing the most insane and daring stuff with an extraterrestrial fluidity.
i love it.
Almost down to earth position behind the kit !
That was his sweet spot, perfect position for him!😁👍
The trick is to mount your snare at 45 degrees.
Not sure he has much choice being how he sits on the floor to play!
He was sitting like 10" off the floor during this era - Looks so cool - but hard on the back --- also was playing more matched grip at this time - even tho he is a traditional grip guy!...
And he can sight read. He may have a chance to make it in the music business
VINCENZO!!!
Damn! Vinnie is so freakin amazing!!🤩🤩
The drumming of the DVD-A Halloween which features the track titled "Zeets" is spacially placed to fly all around the room in a circle around you. I mean, it isn't a natural way to hear a drum solo, but technically interesting.
that was pre clone vin a wowie zowie that man is freaky fast funkin good
Colaiuta.... An idol
Dave Wekl , Vinnie Colaiuta , Gary Novak ... and " Others " ...
Back when Vinnie used to almost sit on the floor, his seat was so low.
Matched grip? When did he switch; anyone know?
😍
Joes Garage is a mudt listen if you love Vinnie. Epic.
Vinnie's throne was 10 inches off the ground 😆. Dave Garibaldi's was 8".
This is much better than the version released on Franks Back Halloween, unless it's my imagination running riot...
Correct me if im wrong , but i believe the crowd doesn't stop cheering.
As a member of the audience that night trust me we were cheering as we had just seen Vinnie for the first time as Terry Bozzio was FZ drummer for the previous 3 years
I think Terry bozzio was the best sounding with Frank. I love Vinnie's playin to death but when it comes to playing frank's music nobody does it better than bozzio. Vinny 2nd and then Chad wackerman 3rd. Chad wackerman was the longest standing drummer with Zappa. All 3 of those guys are very close but so unique and so different in their playing. But I guess if I enjoyed someone's playing the most when it was with Frank it had To be TERRY Bozzio. But as an all around drummer I don't think it gets any better than Vinny or Steve gadd. But a drummer that had the biggest impression on my life, it's bill Bruford.
There more than Vinnie and Gadd, believe that.
Everyone's a bit different. It took me a while to decide my personal #1. Vinnie vs Terry. Both so explosive and avalanches of energy. To me, Vinnie is a bit more jawdropping, always coming with a surprise, always coming from an unexpected angle. Just wanted to share
I didn't know Vinnie ever used match grip. Always saw him use traditional.
2:06 Almost looks like Chad Wackerman
I thought it looked like Terry Bozzio. But, maybe you're right.
@@elmhurst86 this is Chad
That's Arthur Barrow the bass player.
Edit: At 2:30 it's Patrick O'Hearn. In 1978 Zappa had 2 bass players in the band for a while (check out Zappa SNL 1978)
He sat really low back then.
I still do. I found out it isn't correct. To late now.
And no double pedal !
He always had a wicked right foot. Then when adding a double pedal he could probably play death metal if he wanted.
Man that Tony William's right hand right foot 16th move he does make me wet!
Vinnie might be the most technically skilled overall drummer alive. Dave Weckl and Steve Gadd are his main challengers, I'd say. Neil Peart, Terry Bozzio, Billy Cobham, Rod Morgenstein, Stewart Copeland, John Bonham, and Keith Moon would round out the top ten. Mitch Mitchell, Ginger Baker, Danny Carey, Ian Paice, Mike Portnoy, Al Jackson Jr., etc as honorable mentions.
Any top ten list that doesn't include Buddy Rich is wrong.
pete g Sorry, that was my rock list but I didn't mention that. I also said it was a list of the greatest overall drummers alive, and it started off okay until I started listing drummers who are dead. As for jazz, yeah, some of my faves are Buddy Rich, Art Blakey, Tony Williams, Max Roach, Jack DeJohnette, Jimmy Cobb, Joe Morello, Alex Acuna, Dennis Chambers, Gene Krupa, and more I can't think of right now.
Christian Gasior It's so damned hard to make such lists because it's so easy to get distracted by names outside of the original idea for the list! I've done it, too.
pete g Lol, glad I'm not the only one :) .
Copeland for impact maybe, not technique or versatility...
Why did he switch to traditional grip after ripping balls like this?
hear it , don`t watch it;Ucan watch it - but hear it.
roto toms f'n rule!
The best
My drummer I work with a lot had the set of 3 smallest but in the last two years he's collected all the sizes and has a monstrously huge set with all of them in there. Way too much fun.
Gretsch baby!
Never understand the foot-high throne thing. Nick McBrain does something like that too.
Man, those thin ass stands take me back
FLUID AF
2:13 Chad Wackerman ? lol
No, it's Arthur Barrow - the bass player.
@@Farksisten - * *Farksisten,* * No....that's the bass player at 2:31, Mr. Patrick O'hearn. Watch close. He leans in and drops two notes during the solo!!!!!
@@JamminClemmons Yes, but he refers to the person at 2:13 - which is Barrow.
Don’t know about you guys, but the first part of the solo gives me some Bonham vibes
Ohhh Vinny I love your nails you big walrus...as a pure musician bad ass fucking drummer Vinnie was it 4 Zappa but the best fit for the music was Terry bozzio(I still think bozzio is a badass motherfuker to in his drum solos to me we're just as good).... Wackerman had some good chops to
Transcriptions, anyone?
'YEAH......the guys pretty good or he wooden be here'
Man. That Terry Bozzio!
Just kidding. Vinnie Colaiuta.
Gotcha.
Vinnie virtuose Colaiuta
]Some perfect examples of the Mueller technique, as learned from Richard Wlson!!!
Zappa Ibrahimovic
I can't believe how low he sits
Some knee damage for sure, probably the only thing he regrets through the years.
I wonder what John Bonham thought of this.
Sitting so low he's bent in half, and playing on a set of dead drums (sound like those oil-filled heads from the 70s). That is not the real Vinnie!
maaaaaan, he sits way to high.....!!!!!
Believe it or not this is the sloppiest I've ever seen him play
Fuck off
@@ronanscarlett9943 sloppy doesn't necessarily mean bad he just isn't playing really on the beat like later in his career
He was probably doing a lot of drugs back then. And even so he was nailing zappas music despite hitting a few rims here and there.
I'll take Ralph Humphrey over Vinnie any day of the week. He can groove. Technical does not = Great. Vinnie's stint with Jeff Beck was horrific imho. Stepped all over Jeff's tasty licks. I know many will hate on me, but as a professional drummer for over 50 years that's just my 2 cents.
hippydippy. I get that with Jeff. incredible stuff but crazy busy. yet he grooves with sting so he can do it. I never really cared for his snare tone either.
he's not considering technique and only evaluating on what the music makes him personally feel like, which is fine. everyone knows vinnie blows everyone out of the way technically
i am with you 100% Paul. Vinnie can definitely do both, but some people only want one. His creative side really messes with people I've noticed, and they don't appreciate the subtleties in his grooves
i think it's so amazing that the generation vinnie inspired to go to college and study music, or sit around in their parents' basement and just practice all day, they still can't hold a candle to him
Vinnie overplays sometimes. Yet on some records he is so inside the music it's insane. As with any player, there are some times where there is a mismatch somewhere.