These 4 submarines were purchased for 750 Million Dollars (newly constructed the 4 would have cost 3 Billion). And after, all electrical upgrades ( and even repairs of unplanned fire aboard 1 ), the bill still sat at 1,5 billion ( still half the cost). They use the latest standard of Mk48 Adcap torpedo (same as US), but are equipped with Canadian Sonar (highly regarded worldwide). Recently, one Victoria class patrolled the east China Sea and performed admirably (the presence of 1 extremely quiet sub stirred fear in possible adversaries, as it could be anywhere). While nuclear subs do indeed have greater range and speed, the Victoria class (amongst other allied Diesel subs), are much quiter boats. You won't know they are there until it is too late. The boats, and their crews deserve respect irregardless of the fact that they will soon be replaced. As a conclusion, any and all US carrier groups are happy to have an upholder in their group, as they are extremely capable ASW pickets.
Spent time aboard a Canadian Submarine in 1972 while serving on a US Navy Sub in Norfolk, Va. Thanks for your hospitality to a fellow Sub sailor. Go Navy!
Do not forget the German Class 212 A submarines...although not powered diesel electric, but by a fuel cell drive. They are considered among the quietest submarines in the world.
uh... it's a city in Quebec, and usually pronounced in French... in that language it sounds to English ears like: "She-koo-tee-me" there's no "a" sound in it anywhere.
@@TomokosEnterprize Wore them out? They were hardly used by the Brits! Their British service life was short, with the subs being decommissioned in 1994. The first was commissioned in the RN in 1990, the last in 1993. Worn out my ass. Poorly mothballed? Maybe. Now was the Canadian takeover and getting them in service an expensive, poorly executed nightmare…you betcha.
Yup. Brand new technology, they added two batteries for the starter making it 24 volts. Now it start better ( faint engine noise cranking but failing to start )
as Rusty as they may Look they are by far the best Looking Subs I have ever seen , While I do not know much about subs as long as the Hull is in Tact and not Rusting out is it not possible to Fix these subs up properly to make them sea worthy? why so many problems , design flaw?
No design flaw, just a lot of human caused error and a lack of funds to bring up to snuff. Much better now as they have received an injection of funding to make them last out to 2035 under the “Victoria Class Modernization” program VCM. Who knows they might see action in the SCS.
I served on the O Class boats in the early 80s. The fact that we were the quietest boats in the world made for a big advantage in hunting big ass noisy nuke boats/ships. That and for use on specialized missions. The Victoria class are much the same.
The government just announced plans to buy 12 new Dielsel Electric Subs. The news has already greatly upset the Russians as the Diesel subs can be completely silent.
@@Caesar316 it has not upset the Russians. Don’t be daft ffs. We’ll be lucky to occasionally field one of those subs up north. Max one in the water on each coast at a time. If we have the crew. The Russians aren’t even our adversaries in our North. They have their own coasts to patrol.
The biggest issue with these British subs was the Brits didn’t properly store them, for yrs before the Canadians bought them, salt water corrosion does terrible things over time, should have bought them at 80% off. Personally anything I’ve bought that was built by the Brits was a rolling piece of junk,construction and engineering is the worst.
@@mikemurphy2112only one & that is being fixed by Babcock as they messed it up and agreed to fix it at their expense. They ruptured a ballast tank on emptying it with too much air pressure. That was Corner Brook.
@@jeffhedrich3551yes just search user the topic corner brook. Babcock agreed to pay all fixed costs and negotiated for the navy’s budget to pay for some of the variable costs. It will require replacing the ballast tank with a new tank,that requires cutting the sub open completely. Babcock wants to do right by the navy. So much had already been spent on the corner brook already under the VCM leaving it as is would mean all was for nothing. Canada plans on spending $2.5 billion on these four subs to make them fully operational until the mid 2030s. Just type in google “can the HMCS corner brook dive without any restrictions” and you will find the article. Know this that initially Babcock repaired the tank and said they could not guarantee the integrity of its ability the dive to its specifications which lead to accountability responsibilities.
Canada is a joke nowadays. Even worse, the "lea de r" IS a clown. 9 millions for an apartment in New-York with an handmade copper bathtub… 9 f king millions. For what ? For his friend.
Craigslist? Woah woah calm your horses. We are Canadian. Not rich Americans. We bought them from a sleazy vendor met on a sidewalk. Not stolen. Guarantee, owned by a priest. Never driven in the winter
@allannantes8583 I don't need any. I've watched many documentaries on our military. Since the early 60's there has been a steady decline in Canadian military, navy and it's equipment. Maybe you should get some history. Ashat!
@@CitAcanadathere are gaps in your history on the subs we bought from the RN. The rest of the things you speak of as far as cuts to Canada’s military is sad but true. The electorate of Canada seems to think that social spending is more important than protecting what we have. Maybe they (us) have to be scared into thinking that anything worth having is worth protecting with a credible military. Let me know when you find the answer, please.
Unfortunately, we could not have built our own boats, as Canada does not have the manufacturing capability. What we do have are highly skilled men and women able to adapt to any challenge the ASW world can provide.
@@patrickharwood-jones2215we actually did have the technology back in the 1970s as the hulls for the U.S. Navy 688 LA class nuclear powered subs were built in Montreal as per “Mark Norman”. As contracts expire you lose the capability, now we have to buy MOTS as we can’t afford the time to gear up again.
Yeah ok, us and russian have nukes, tell me what do you hear with a stem plant and then tell me what do you here when you turn a flashlight on? That's the difference between nukes and diesel. Plus we also use the mk48
It’s not pronounced drought, it’s pronounced “draft”. Canada needs to ditch its diesel electric submarines like the Australians and buy Virginia class nuclear submarines
@@musa7010depth reflects how deep it can go underwater while draft is how much depth is required for the ship to pass through a shallow area without hitting bottom
Canada is looking at buying 12 new subs to replace the existing Victoria-class (ex-Royal Navy 'Upholder' class) submarines. It is not yet known if they will be nuclear or powered with conventional diesel-electric powerplants. Canada can't afford nuclear submarines, and the modifications the Virginia-class subs would need to suit Canadian operational doctrines and methods would likely be extensive and cost-prohibitive. Plus, an entirely new training and maintenance infrastructure would need to be created. Before the Victoria-class subs were acquired, the Canadian Navy operated British-made Oberon-class subs, so the training and maintenance infrastructure for the new Victoria-class subs is pretty much a follow-on setup from what the old subs had.
Really? It’s quiet, it’s armed with the same Mk.48 torpedo as is carried by all U.S. Navy submarines, including Seawolf, Los Angeles, and Virginia-class nuclear attack submarines, and it has U.S. sensors, sonars, radars, and fire control systems. They are at the end of their life cycle and replacement procurement process has started, but their lethality is far more than you underestimate, as RIMPAC and other exercises against U.S./NATO navies have indicated.
We don't have billlion dollar subs what a joke we have the left overs of the British Navy boats they won't use when infact we should build and deploy a new fleet of these at least a Dozen. We should also be building a Navy with multiple aircraft carriers,Distroyers and Cruisers The F 35s on order should be changed to the Naval Version and ships should be built to carry them Canada should build our own interceptor Air Superiority Aircraft right now and all Future Aircraft needs. We need to actually build an airforce as we don't have one and our Navy is a joke with a hand full of Frigets Support Vessels basically.
lol lol entered dry docked and stayed there for 5 and a half years then went to sea sprung a leak and had to go back to dry dock then shoe caught fire like only been operational 2 years and now being retired lol
@@kbbb4227maybe you should ask your neighborhood submariner how well he or she have been able to operate on a shoestring budget for decades? Our military has most certainly not been a money pit of the tax payers dollars, but the social safety net certainly has been. Excuse me I have to go dumpster diving for some chicken bones as it’s time to make some more soup.
The subs got the help they needed and for the most part are very capable subs presently. I can’t say the same for Trudeau. He is well past his best before date. In fact he made a fool of himself on the Stephen Colbert show on Sept. 24, 2024.
These 4 submarines were purchased for 750 Million Dollars (newly constructed the 4 would have cost 3 Billion).
And after, all electrical upgrades ( and even repairs of unplanned fire aboard 1 ), the bill still sat at 1,5 billion ( still half the cost).
They use the latest standard of Mk48 Adcap torpedo (same as US), but are equipped with Canadian Sonar (highly regarded worldwide).
Recently, one Victoria class patrolled the east China Sea and performed admirably (the presence of 1 extremely quiet sub stirred fear in possible adversaries, as it could be anywhere).
While nuclear subs do indeed have greater range and speed, the Victoria class (amongst other allied Diesel subs), are much quiter boats. You won't know they are there until it is too late.
The boats, and their crews deserve respect irregardless of the fact that they will soon be replaced.
As a conclusion, any and all US carrier groups are happy to have an upholder in their group, as they are extremely capable ASW pickets.
Any and all US carrier groups are happy to have an upholder in their group, as they are extremely capable ASW pickets. Pure horse manure.
@@mikemurphy2112 and your submarine experience is?
I think you mean a Victoria class in their group.
@@allannantes8583 both names are correct
Thx for the the brief.
Spent time aboard a Canadian Submarine in 1972 while serving on a US Navy Sub in Norfolk, Va. Thanks for your hospitality to a fellow Sub sailor. Go Navy!
Cutting edge 1980's technology. Far more dangerous to the Canadian crew than to anyone else.
Nope.
Been there, did that and sure got nothing for my time than repairing junk. HMCS Provider. 75>79.
Right!
Sorry how old is the F-16? F-22?
@@Nobber399 Don’t forget F-15…or B-52 (in service 70 years)! People realize these things get upgraded?
Sweden has the best one if a diesel battery is yours choice
Do not forget the German Class 212 A submarines...although not powered diesel electric, but by a fuel cell drive. They are considered among the quietest submarines in the world.
No. Actually they are looking for patrol submarines 😂
Nope, plenty of diesel boats use AIP. And no Sweden doesn't have a blue water navy
“Chee-koo-teem-ee”? Chicoutimi is pronounced “she-coo-ta-me”.
uh... it's a city in Quebec, and usually pronounced in French... in that language it sounds to English ears like: "She-koo-tee-me" there's no "a" sound in it anywhere.
@@petersilva037 You are correct and I stand corrected with my spurious vowel. Still better than “Chee-koo-teem-me”.
Computer generated narration...
A "drought" of 5.4 meters. I believe the common nautical term nowadays is "draft," though maybe Commonwealth countries will disagree.
Exactly. Was just about to comment on 'draft'.
"Drought" = A I.
Also spelled draught
I am a Canuckian and use Draft.
@@TomokosEnterprizeIn Canada, draught is the official spelling. But draft is acceptable as well.
The Brits wore them out and sold them to us for a premium. It's our way.
@@TomokosEnterprize Wore them out? They were hardly used by the Brits! Their British service life was short, with the subs being decommissioned in 1994. The first was commissioned in the RN in 1990, the last in 1993. Worn out my ass. Poorly mothballed? Maybe. Now was the Canadian takeover and getting them in service an expensive, poorly executed nightmare…you betcha.
@@davidkendall1614but they (we) finally got it right. They are a force multiplier in the RCN.🇨🇦
@@davidkendall1614 I'm glad there's someone here who knows what they're talking about. Thank you.
These submarines don't look like that anymore. They've all been upgraded with new technology.
They have Bluetooth capability now.
Yup. Brand new technology, they added two batteries for the starter making it 24 volts. Now it start better ( faint engine noise cranking but failing to start )
I'm assuming that's 1 Billion Canadian? That's like $275 US? LOL! Just teasing, Canada... you're awesome!
Big thankx my southern friend.
At the current exchange rate. I’d say 259$…
Well, there's 4 of those Victoria's class subs. But one headed Sonora domo smashed up. So who knows if it labber being service?
That would be Corner Brook, not to worry it is back in the game. Even fixed Babcock’s mess up.
as Rusty as they may Look they are by far the best Looking Subs I have ever seen , While I do not know much about subs as long as the Hull is in Tact and not Rusting out is it not possible to Fix these subs up properly to make them sea worthy? why so many problems , design flaw?
No design flaw, just a lot of human caused error and a lack of funds to bring up to snuff. Much better now as they have received an injection of funding to make them last out to 2035 under the “Victoria Class Modernization” program VCM. Who knows they might see action in the SCS.
Lol. Nice. I thought we still had those damn Oberons.
Tim Hortons has more advanced electronics.
For fucks, It’s HMCS not HMSC! Guess editing is a luxury.
Interested in the 2.8l and internal boot and folded seat dimensions
Cool but we need 2 Nuclear sub we need to start playing in the big league not in the clown one !
It will never happen in Canada.
2 subs? Whatever happened to the rule of 4?
I served on the O Class boats in the early 80s. The fact that we were the quietest boats in the world made for a big advantage in hunting big ass noisy nuke boats/ships. That and for use on specialized missions. The Victoria class are much the same.
The government just announced plans to buy 12 new Dielsel Electric Subs. The news has already greatly upset the Russians as the Diesel subs can be completely silent.
@@Caesar316 it has not upset the Russians. Don’t be daft ffs. We’ll be lucky to occasionally field one of those subs up north. Max one in the water on each coast at a time. If we have the crew. The Russians aren’t even our adversaries in our North. They have their own coasts to patrol.
HMCS not HMSC
Right!!!, I cringed every time he said HMSC. lol
Oh look at the American sailor apparently on a Canadian sub
The biggest issue with these British subs was the Brits didn’t properly store them, for yrs before the Canadians bought them, salt water corrosion does terrible things over time, should have bought them at 80% off. Personally anything I’ve bought that was built by the Brits was a rolling piece of junk,construction and engineering is the worst.
euhh i though we only had wooden boats lol 🤣🤣
It’s my understanding that they have never left the docks for any REAL patrols. A 500 million dollar waste
They have done many secret missions,very capable & highly valued by the RCN.
@@allannantes8583 Now that is hilarious, the subs are not allowed to dive. Dream on.
@@mikemurphy2112only one & that is being fixed by Babcock as they messed it up and agreed to fix it at their expense. They ruptured a ballast tank on emptying it with too much air pressure. That was Corner Brook.
@@allannantes8583 Did they agree to fix it? I thought it was going to cost more to fix than a whole new sub costs. Any link by chance for reference?
@@jeffhedrich3551yes just search user the topic corner brook. Babcock agreed to pay all fixed costs and negotiated for the navy’s budget to pay for some of the variable costs. It will require replacing the ballast tank with a new tank,that requires cutting the sub open completely. Babcock wants to do right by the navy. So much had already been spent on the corner brook already under the VCM leaving it as is would mean all was for nothing. Canada plans on spending $2.5 billion on these four subs to make them fully operational until the mid 2030s. Just type in google “can the HMCS corner brook dive without any restrictions” and you will find the article. Know this that initially Babcock repaired the tank and said they could not guarantee the integrity of its ability the dive to its specifications which lead to accountability responsibilities.
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Does maple syrup power it ? 😂
Yes. But don't tell anyone. Otherwise we have to start guarding our maple trees.
There’s always that one clown 🤡 YOU!
No. But it’s not horse power. It’s beaverpowered
Lots of keyboard Admirals out there that know nothing as per usual. If you know nothing... say nothing.
Il plonge mais ne remonte pas!...
😂😅😂😂
all the time in the shipyard
Canada has Submarines?
Did you have to plagiarize everything from “A Long Beginning”.
Held together with dollar store cash glue..
Yes, witness the might of Duddley Douchebag and his trusty Moose as they embark on their canoe journey.
Our military is embarrassing and doesn't have the same capabilities as other NATO member countries. Sorry but that's the harsh truth
Ditto
Lobby your MP to open the purse strings then.
There are plenty of third world countries with more military power.
Canada is a joke nowadays. Even worse, the "lea de r" IS a clown. 9 millions for an apartment in New-York with an handmade copper bathtub… 9 f king millions. For what ? For his friend.
@@allannantes8583 Nah, they're too focused on spending money to save idiots that wont leave conflict zones and welfare for refugees.
Are you sure they can work again
One has died in a fire crossing the Atlantic on its first crossing. All the subs were worn out. Great deal for the British, not so good for us eh.
@@TomokosEnterprizecatch up would you, stop spreading bullsh*t.
Faint engine cranking noise in the background : - Yup, this baby is like new…
A used military gear bought off Craigslist
Craigslist? Woah woah calm your horses. We are Canadian. Not rich Americans. We bought them from a sleazy vendor met on a sidewalk. Not stolen. Guarantee, owned by a priest. Never driven in the winter
1960s plus
"Canada's Salvation army and Military ". Nothing but hand me down old tech that other countries consider outdated and are decommissioned. Lol
Get some history lessons would you.
@allannantes8583 I don't need any. I've watched many documentaries on our military. Since the early 60's there has been a steady decline in Canadian military, navy and it's equipment. Maybe you should get some history. Ashat!
@@CitAcanadathere are gaps in your history on the subs we bought from the RN. The rest of the things you speak of as far as cuts to Canada’s military is sad but true. The electorate of Canada seems to think that social spending is more important than protecting what we have. Maybe they (us) have to be scared into thinking that anything worth having is worth protecting with a credible military. Let me know when you find the answer, please.
We could have built modern boats with the money wasted on these lemons.The Brits really gave Canada the 'shaft'.
Unfortunately, we could not have built our own boats, as Canada does not have the manufacturing capability.
What we do have are highly skilled men and women able to adapt to any challenge the ASW world can provide.
@@patrickharwood-jones2215we just have open up the purse strings.
Not true, do your homework.
@@patrickharwood-jones2215we actually did have the technology back in the 1970s as the hulls for the U.S. Navy 688 LA class nuclear powered subs were built in Montreal as per “Mark Norman”. As contracts expire you lose the capability, now we have to buy MOTS as we can’t afford the time to gear up again.
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Watch this and go watch the USA or Russia sub capability’s lol let it sink in sad put some money in your military for the love of god
Yeah ok, us and russian have nukes, tell me what do you hear with a stem plant and then tell me what do you here when you turn a flashlight on? That's the difference between nukes and diesel. Plus we also use the mk48
The sound signature of a nuclear powered sub is very similar to a school of shrimp feeding, they have advantages, but stealth is not one of them.
A sinking offshore ship!!! Shame to hmcs bernays
It’s not pronounced drought, it’s pronounced “draft”. Canada needs to ditch its diesel electric submarines like the Australians and buy Virginia class nuclear submarines
Why not to simply say "depth"?
@@musa7010depth reflects how deep it can go underwater while draft is how much depth is required for the ship to pass through a shallow area without hitting bottom
Canada is looking at buying 12 new subs to replace the existing Victoria-class (ex-Royal Navy 'Upholder' class) submarines. It is not yet known if they will be nuclear or powered with conventional diesel-electric powerplants. Canada can't afford nuclear submarines, and the modifications the Virginia-class subs would need to suit Canadian operational doctrines and methods would likely be extensive and cost-prohibitive.
Plus, an entirely new training and maintenance infrastructure would need to be created. Before the Victoria-class subs were acquired, the Canadian Navy operated British-made Oberon-class subs, so the training and maintenance infrastructure for the new Victoria-class subs is pretty much a follow-on setup from what the old subs had.
got a trillion you don't need ???
With what money ? Trudeau spent it all on dumb things
Gets subs from britain from time to fime. Whats that fringlish
Canadians have a submarine?
In the middle of the ocean??
Who's gonna harvest the maple syrup?
They have the new and improved internal combustion engines. They now make 32,5 beaverpower.
Hiroshima ,,, Nagasaki ,,, Moscow !
You are a sick puppy.
Windows 95
😮omigod 😮
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As lethal as a fishing boat. As old as a dinosaur. Shameful and disgusting.
Diesel/ Electric subs are still far more quiet than nuke boats.
Really? It’s quiet, it’s armed with the same Mk.48 torpedo as is carried by all U.S. Navy submarines, including Seawolf, Los Angeles, and Virginia-class nuclear attack submarines, and it has U.S. sensors, sonars, radars, and fire control systems. They are at the end of their life cycle and replacement procurement process has started, but their lethality is far more than you underestimate, as RIMPAC and other exercises against U.S./NATO navies have indicated.
@@davidkendall1614yes it is highly regarded.
So you think a fishing boat can sink a U.S. carrier, because that is what it did.
@@allannantes8583 Absolutely, if the carrier is a decommissioned carrier, with zero self-defense, that will be sunk to create an artificial reef.
We don't have billlion dollar subs what a joke we have the left overs of the British Navy boats they won't use when infact we should build and deploy a new fleet of these at least a Dozen.
We should also be building a Navy with multiple aircraft carriers,Distroyers and Cruisers
The F 35s on order should be changed to the Naval Version and ships should be built to carry them
Canada should build our own interceptor Air Superiority Aircraft right now and all Future Aircraft needs.
We need to actually build an airforce as we don't have one and our Navy is a joke with a hand full of Frigets Support Vessels basically.
We have done all of that already(been there,done that and bought the tee shirt). We have now moved on to a woke society. Did you not get the e-mail.
The boat that never was,piece of crap
8th comment on first video😂❤❤❤
it's worth nothing
lol lol entered dry docked and stayed there for 5 and a half years then went to sea sprung a leak and had to go back to dry dock then shoe caught fire like only been operational 2 years and now being retired lol
Sounds like a money pit to me.
Hardly, do the math. We have made a lot of chicken soup out of chicken bones.
@@allannantes8583 umm if you say so. Mayhap ask your neighbor about there tax bill before you start making “ chicken soup”.???
@@kbbb4227maybe you should ask your neighborhood submariner how well he or she have been able to operate on a shoestring budget for decades? Our military has most certainly not been a money pit of the tax payers dollars, but the social safety net certainly has been. Excuse me I have to go dumpster diving for some chicken bones as it’s time to make some more soup.
Diesel electric? How QUAINT!!! Are they ALL 1920s models??
Here’s the facts, they sneak up without anyone knowing they are there.
Quietest subs in the world are diesel-electric/AIP.
@@davidkendall1614 Exactly!!!!
you mean the ones they call nuke killers
@@alpearson9158you better get all those nukes before you have to go up for a snorkel.
just like trudo........a disgrace to canada
The subs got the help they needed and for the most part are very capable subs presently. I can’t say the same for Trudeau. He is well past his best before date. In fact he made a fool of himself on the Stephen Colbert show on Sept. 24, 2024.