Perhaps I shouldn’t be surprised by PRR 612’s inclusion here. She did pull some trips before being scrapped, and she was an iconic Pennsy K4. Awesome video as always, Thunder!
Thunderbolt I'm from Paducah and we also tried to save 2613 but unfortunately we were unable to raise what the Illinois Central Railroad wanted for her which was what she would bring for scrap.
@@warriorpredator128 the Illinois Central Railroad gave us 1518 a 2-8-2 or Mikado for the money we did raise. The Illinois Central Railroad asked that we take the money we had raised and use it to maintain 1518.
@illinoiscentralrailroadfan6015 The good thing is that 2 4-8-2s from the IC survive today that bring 2500 and 2542 in Mississippi but 2613 should've been saved
I’ll be looking forward on seeing this premier tomorrow night, I’m already curious on which former scrapped excursion stars are gonna be in the second part. Guess I’ll have ti wait and find out soon.
Great video! I also quite loved how at 7:40 you used the the Moon Festival theme music from Angry Birds seasons. I had quite a laugh when I heard that.
In my model railroad’s lore, they were able to save several steam locomotives from scrapping, including a PRR K4, a New York Central J3a Hudson, and an Atlantic Coast Line 4-6-2, all of which are still running. They also saved two Baldwin 2-10-0 Russians of their own.
Great video again, Nicholas. It is sad that these excursions stars couldn't be saved from the scrappers torch. But they will always live on in the memories of simulators and models too. Can't wait for part 3!
@@Thunderbolt_1000_Siren We all know that in Back to the Future Part 3 there are train that appeared in the movie, like Central Pacific No. 131 (Played by Sierra Railway #3, which is currently undergoing a FRA inspection and overhaul at the Railtown 1897 State Historic Park in Jamestown, California).
New Haven 3006, 3016, and 3020 were set aside for snow melting duties in Boston, New Haven, and Providence respectively. All three later saw the torch. My coworker has a photo of him taken in the cab of 3020 as a child.
Interesting to hear about, if New Haven 3006 is preserved to this day, it could’ve been displayed at the Delaware & Ulster Railroad in Arkville, New York.
Thanks for talking about New Haven 3016. My mom loved Doris Day, so I saw "It Happened to Jane" multiple times with the steam train being my biggest draw. I figured that she was a New Haven loco, but didn't have much info about it until now. A shame she wasn't actually preserved like her movie counterpart.
New Haven 3016 isn’t the only New Haven Steam Locomotive to be used in excursion service. New Haven 1372 (Built by American Locomotive Company’s Schenectady Works in 1916) had also pulled a farewell of steam excursion on the New Haven Railroad. That I-4 class 4-6-2 “Pacific”. But was scrapped not long after. If it was preserved to this day, it could’ve ended being displayed at the Lake Superior Railroad Museum in Duluth, Minnesota to be honest.
Northern Pacific: We will not repair any engines that we do not own. Also Northern Pacific: *buys the engine and fixes the problem* Just found that hilarious.
Well, that was their company policy. My Great-Great Grandfather worked for that railroad as a locomotive engineer, and I'm sure he was aware of it, as well as my Grandfather. However, both of them are gone, so I can't ask them about it. However, there is something about Northern Pacific that's very important: they were the very first railroad to use steam locomotives with the 4-8-4 wheel arrangement, and that wheel arrangement was named after them as a result. Northern Pacific had a very large fleet of 4-8-4s, all of different classes (A; 2600 to 2611, A-1; held exclusively by Timken 1111/NP 2626, A-2; 2650 to 2659, A-3; 2660 to 2667, A-4; 2670 to 2677, A-5; 2680 to 2689), and they were all very amazing locomotives. Sadly, however, none of Northern Pacific's 4-8-4s survive today, as they were all scrapped. However, Spokane Portland and Seattle 700 is here today, and she is a class E-1 4-8-4 Northern. The E-1s were the exact same thing as the A-3s, but the A-3s burned coal, whereas the E-1s burned oil. If you want to see a Northern Pacific 4-8-4 Northern, SP&S 700 is the closest there is to one.
Hey thunderbolt thank you for being one of the few people /places that actually acknowledge 3025s Knox and Kane history. I'm from near there and I'm always disappointed that the kkrr is never mentioned as a part of her history
I live in Paducah. Not only 2613 was painted on a mural of the locomotive, one of its sisters, 1518, is up on display in Downtown Paducah by the mural wall.
This video is wild for me. I am from Centralia, Illinois where ICRR 2500 is in static display in Fairview Park right across the street from the Fairview Shopping Plaza. I now live in Paducah, Kentucky (after living in the Lehigh Valley for 8 years). I see 2513 in display too right in front of the Carson Center and the mural. Paducah also has a railroad museum here and the Paducah and Louisville Railroad here. I live right behind their railyard. Kind of cool to see trains passing by!
As for the rest of the other steam locomotives. Texas & Pacific 638: Could’ve been displayed at the Museum of American Railroad located in Frisco, Texas. New Haven 3020: Could’ve been displayed at the Berkshire Scenic Railway Museum in Lenox, Massachusetts. Illinois Central 2524: Could’ve been in operation at the Steam Railroading Institute located in Owosso, Michigan. Illinois Central 2612: Could’ve been displayed at the Henry Ford Museum located in Dearborn, Michigan. Illinois Central 2802: Could’ve been in operation in Fort Worth, Texas by BNSF with their own steam excursion program (Which also could’ve happened). Illinois Central 2807: Could’ve been displayed at the Arizona State Railroad Museum located in Williams, Arizona. Illinois Central 2739: Could’ve been displayed at the Douglas Railroad Interpretive Center located in Douglas, Wyoming. Pennsylvania Railroad 1737: Could’ve been displayed at Steamtown National Historic Site located in Scranton, Pennsylvania.
I really like that you mentioned NP S-4 1372 on this list. Even though she's gone, she does have a few surviving sisters (NP 1354, 1356, 1364, and 1382). In addition to that, one of 1372's cousins, NP S-10 328, has also been preserved. 328 had a very lengthy excursion career herself (1981 to 2001), and my very own Great-Great Grandfather actually drove her!
Back again! BTW,my grandmother was the secretary to the plant manager during WWII @ Timken Bearing plant here in Columbus OH. She got the position because she was Valor Dictorian of her school in Del Co. I can remember the plant here in Cols,it was huge took up like 150 acres just east of downtown Cols. Buckeye castings,was another huge plant located on the south side of Cols,owed by the Bush family of presidential fame. They made lots of railroad parts i.e. wheel,trucks,couplers,etc.
Reading T-1 No. 2123, although it wasn't an excursion star engine, it was one of the members of the T-1 class, built in 1924 as an I-10sa 2-8-0 Consolidation, but was later rebuilt as an 4-8-4 on 1947 by Reading themselves, 2123 was retired in 1959, it was originally to be scrapped but it was saved to be used as a spare parts source for other T-1s used on the Iron Horse Rambles excursions, which are Reading 2100, 2101, 2102 and 2124, on 1966, 2123 was finally scrapped after being cannibalized for parts.
@nathancorcoran5347 At least 2102 got the chance of her life, She also came to north Jersey in Bergen County and Hoboken along with central NJ with the High Iron Company
On PRR 612's entry I couldn't stop myself from whistling The Amazing Digital Circus Theme. and i myself as a PRR fan will miss 612, Think of her along side N&W 611 since both almost have the same numbers. That would've been cool to see.
Some other PRR excursion engines that got away were 2 G5s, and E6 1000 and a E3. I knew many a PRR engine man growing up. Most only liked the K4 because it could haul heavier trains easier. But they said the E6 rode better and handled better “they rode like a baby buggy” than a K4 which felt it would derail at any moment over 100mph! In addition the E6 was very sure footed for an Atlantic and was easier to fire than a K4 even after stokers were added. While not an Excursion star Reading G3 219 was almost saved. The Reading tried to donate her to the City of Reading to be placed in City park. The Mayor of Reading at the time was a member of the Reading Society of Model Engineers and a knew most of the Reading Brass reportedly. But the donation was refused because The Reading wanted the city to pay for the truck to get it from the rails to the park. The mayor wouldn’t spend $50 for the lowboy truck to save her !!!
28:48 Just as a point of clarification, there is no current rework of the Timken 1111 Four Aces in progress for Trainz Forge. A team member I asked personally on the matter said "a Timken rework is not in the pipeline".
That interesting you featured New Haven steam locomotives, cause I all ways wondered what happened to those steam locomotives made by New Haven. That steam engine 3025, I've seen that steam engine several times at the Essex steam train ride, but I didn't know its a Chinese locomotive in disguise. Thats Unfortunate the New Haven locomotive you mentioned was scrapped, but at least it lives on in that movie. Nice video by the way.
Indeed. An old conductor I work with came from that line being both a Conneticuit native and New Haven fan his favorite engine to work with was clearly the 3025 and though its a replica, its a darn good one.
When I first watched this video, I didn’t know that PRR 612 was another K4 excursion star besides 1361. It’s awesome to see two K4s still here to this day, but still, there should’ve been more K4s with streamlined bodies and unique modifications in the hands of preservation. It’s still sad that many thousands of steam engines had to face the cutter’s torch. Even the engines that have changed railroading forever should’ve been preserved. I can go on and on about having more steam engines being preserved just to make preservation better. And I didn’t know that there was a New Haven steam locomotive. And yes, I do know that the New Haven along with the Lehigh Valley don’t have any steam locomotives preserved with a few parts preserved. For example: A Lehigh Valley locomotive had its bell preserved at the Railroad Museum Of Pennsylvania aka my favorite railroad museum of all time. Really love this video. 10/10
icr 2613 we will miss you now it is time for you to venture were trains can run forever in peace and no scrap in site thank you for your time with our world.
It's sad to see a Steam Train get scrapped, Steam Locomotives are one of the most amazing man-made Transportation Mode. It's sad to see a iron giant like a Steam Locomotive be scrapped just because other powerful and faster Trains were made. In my opinion, Steam Trains should've been saved for freight or something...
I don't think the FRA had anything to do with plain journals being blocked from interchange. The AAR is the interchange organization you are thinking of.
I enjoy your videos. I would like to make a suggestion for your next project. I would love to see you make a video about the Livingston, Louisiana train Derailment of 1982.
Im gonna be honest with you, both 5629s and 2613s stories are frustrating. (one engine I think deserves a replica is the 4 aces because of how it was the best advertisement and the reason why roller bearing are used on trains today)
I live literally a block from the Worthington Railway Museum, where they have the N&W 578 It's too bad that they can't get any corporate sponsors to donate to our local Museum. I have even tried to get Anhiser Busch to come on board,but they replied that isn't a endeavor that they would be willing to take part in.. shameful, since our Railway Museum is literally across the tracks from their Columbus bottling mega brewery. We need our locomotive to go to age of steam round house for restoration! Save our beluigered Railway history!
Norfolk & Western 578 is the most forgotten excursion star steam locomotive besides some of these steam locomotives, even in the previous video from last year too.
I did know that Norfolk & Western 578 isn’t the only N&W 4-6-2 to be used in excursion service. It’s sibling Norfolk & Western 563 was also used on a few excursion trips before it was sadly scrapped. It could’ve been in operation at the Steam Railroading Institute in Owosso, Michigan to this day if it was still around in preservation today.
Here’s how I would imagine if all of these steam locomotives could’ve been preserved at to this day. Along with the two I mentioned previously of another video from last year. Southern Pacific Cab Forward 4274: Could’ve been displayed at the Western Railway Museum located in Suisun City, California. New Haven 3016: Could’ve been in operation at the Strasburg Railroad located in Strasburg, Pennsylvania. Illinois Central 2613: Could’ve been displayed at the Illinois Railway Museum located in Union, Illinois. Pennsylvania Railroad 612: Could’ve been displayed at the Baltimore & Ohio Railroad Museum located in Baltimore, Maryland. Timken 1111 (A.K.A Northern Pacific 2626): Could’ve been in operation at the North Shore Scenic Railroad located in Duluth, Minnesota (Located near the Lake Superior Railroad Museum). As for the honorable mentions. Southern Pacific 4443: Could’ve been displayed at the San Francisco 4th and King Street Train Station located in San Francisco, California. Northern Pacific 1372: Could’ve been in operation at the Mid Continent Railway Museum located in North Freedom, Wisconsin. Chicago, Burlington & Quincy 6315: Could’ve been displayed at the Galveston Railroad Museum located in Galveston, Texas.
@@nathancorcoran5347 Nathan, I just want to say this. You are perhaps the king of alternate history for steam locomotives. It'd be cool if you make videos about excursion stars if they were not scrapped.
15 years is definitely a short time for a steam, some New York Central steam locomotive were scrapped that werent even in service for 5 years. As far as Illinois Central goes even though they're rebuilt from 2-10-0's there are still two 4-8-2's preserved, 2500 is on display not far from me in Centralia , Il and 2542 in Mississippi.
I heard about port of tillamok bay railroad 4406 + 4716 (maybe) they both gave train attractions until 2007, there were left to rot after a storm caused damage to the rails and were left to rot What remains of the POTB railroad is Potb no.101 and the railcars and are still there today
If you do another video, look up southern Pacific 4367, it was the last SP MT type scraped and it made it all the way to 1961, I've seen pictures of it double heading a steam excursion.
I wish there was more train usage. As in way more than it currently is here in the United States. For passenger travel. For both cross-country and statewide travel
Are their any videos about the cab forward that don't include commentary about smokey tunnels and that being the reason they exist, or does it have to be gone through with all of them.
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Perhaps I shouldn’t be surprised by PRR 612’s inclusion here. She did pull some trips before being scrapped, and she was an iconic Pennsy K4.
Awesome video as always, Thunder!
Thunderbolt I'm from Paducah and we also tried to save 2613 but unfortunately we were unable to raise what the Illinois Central Railroad wanted for her which was what she would bring for scrap.
Atleast you tried and that's what's important
@@warriorpredator128 the Illinois Central Railroad gave us 1518 a 2-8-2 or Mikado for the money we did raise. The Illinois Central Railroad asked that we take the money we had raised and use it to maintain 1518.
So Centralia illinois actually has a steam engine at least I think it's in Centralia
@illinoiscentralrailroadfan6015 The good thing is that 2 4-8-2s from the IC survive today that bring 2500 and 2542 in Mississippi but 2613 should've been saved
@@Voucher765 I agree 2613 should have been saved, the irony is that she was scrapped by the shop that built her just like her sister's.
I’ll be looking forward on seeing this premier tomorrow night, I’m already curious on which former scrapped excursion stars are gonna be in the second part. Guess I’ll have ti wait and find out soon.
Whoa! Nicely done! Can’t wait for part 3!
Great video! I also quite loved how at 7:40 you used the the Moon Festival theme music from Angry Birds seasons. I had quite a laugh when I heard that.
Aye I see a few of my suggestion lost steam excursion stars managed to be in the video. Thank you for that man!
We need another one of this. I’m SO interested in these lost steam stars.
Such a sad but very interesting video. Even tho all your videos are always well put together but this one really hit home!
In my model railroad’s lore, they were able to save several steam locomotives from scrapping, including a PRR K4, a New York Central J3a Hudson, and an Atlantic Coast Line 4-6-2, all of which are still running. They also saved two Baldwin 2-10-0 Russians of their own.
Nice, What Scale?
@@22NCRAILFAN23 HO.
Sounds fun, man!😁
I love doing that too!
@SouRwy4501Productions Awesome, There's actually ACL 1504 being restored for US Sugar Corporation along with ex FEC 148
I heard about that.
Great video again, Nicholas. It is sad that these excursions stars couldn't be saved from the scrappers torch. But they will always live on in the memories of simulators and models too. Can't wait for part 3!
Was not expecting a Delorean on a flatbed lol 👍🏼 3:19
It's a running joke XD
@@Thunderbolt_1000_Siren oh 😂 im like theres no way thats a joke when i seen it lol
@@Thunderbolt_1000_Siren We all know that in Back to the Future Part 3 there are train that appeared in the movie, like Central Pacific No. 131 (Played by Sierra Railway #3, which is currently undergoing a FRA inspection and overhaul at the Railtown 1897 State Historic Park in Jamestown, California).
New Haven 3006, 3016, and 3020 were set aside for snow melting duties in Boston, New Haven, and Providence respectively. All three later saw the torch. My coworker has a photo of him taken in the cab of 3020 as a child.
Interesting to hear about, if New Haven 3006 is preserved to this day, it could’ve been displayed at the Delaware & Ulster Railroad in Arkville, New York.
Thanks for talking about New Haven 3016. My mom loved Doris Day, so I saw "It Happened to Jane" multiple times with the steam train being my biggest draw. I figured that she was a New Haven loco, but didn't have much info about it until now. A shame she wasn't actually preserved like her movie counterpart.
New Haven 3016 isn’t the only New Haven Steam Locomotive to be used in excursion service. New Haven 1372 (Built by American Locomotive Company’s Schenectady Works in 1916) had also pulled a farewell of steam excursion on the New Haven Railroad. That I-4 class 4-6-2 “Pacific”. But was scrapped not long after. If it was preserved to this day, it could’ve ended being displayed at the Lake Superior Railroad Museum in Duluth, Minnesota to be honest.
Northern Pacific: We will not repair any engines that we do not own.
Also Northern Pacific: *buys the engine and fixes the problem*
Just found that hilarious.
Well, that was their company policy. My Great-Great Grandfather worked for that railroad as a locomotive engineer, and I'm sure he was aware of it, as well as my Grandfather. However, both of them are gone, so I can't ask them about it.
However, there is something about Northern Pacific that's very important: they were the very first railroad to use steam locomotives with the 4-8-4 wheel arrangement, and that wheel arrangement was named after them as a result. Northern Pacific had a very large fleet of 4-8-4s, all of different classes (A; 2600 to 2611, A-1; held exclusively by Timken 1111/NP 2626, A-2; 2650 to 2659, A-3; 2660 to 2667, A-4; 2670 to 2677, A-5; 2680 to 2689), and they were all very amazing locomotives. Sadly, however, none of Northern Pacific's 4-8-4s survive today, as they were all scrapped. However, Spokane Portland and Seattle 700 is here today, and she is a class E-1 4-8-4 Northern. The E-1s were the exact same thing as the A-3s, but the A-3s burned coal, whereas the E-1s burned oil. If you want to see a Northern Pacific 4-8-4 Northern, SP&S 700 is the closest there is to one.
I'm glad you mentioned 6315 in the honorable mentions. That is such an underrated engine that no one mentions.
Hey thunderbolt thank you for being one of the few people /places that actually acknowledge 3025s Knox and Kane history. I'm from near there and I'm always disappointed that the kkrr is never mentioned as a part of her history
I live in Paducah. Not only 2613 was painted on a mural of the locomotive, one of its sisters, 1518, is up on display in Downtown Paducah by the mural wall.
1518 isn’t actually a sibling to 2613. 2613 is a 4-8-2 and 1518 is a 2-8-2.
This video is wild for me. I am from Centralia, Illinois where ICRR 2500 is in static display in Fairview Park right across the street from the Fairview Shopping Plaza. I now live in Paducah, Kentucky (after living in the Lehigh Valley for 8 years). I see 2513 in display too right in front of the Carson Center and the mural. Paducah also has a railroad museum here and the Paducah and Louisville Railroad here. I live right behind their railyard. Kind of cool to see trains passing by!
As for the rest of the other steam locomotives.
Texas & Pacific 638: Could’ve been displayed at the Museum of American Railroad located in Frisco, Texas.
New Haven 3020: Could’ve been displayed at the Berkshire Scenic Railway Museum in Lenox, Massachusetts.
Illinois Central 2524: Could’ve been in operation at the Steam Railroading Institute located in Owosso, Michigan.
Illinois Central 2612: Could’ve been displayed at the Henry Ford Museum located in Dearborn, Michigan.
Illinois Central 2802: Could’ve been in operation in Fort Worth, Texas by BNSF with their own steam excursion program (Which also could’ve happened).
Illinois Central 2807: Could’ve been displayed at the Arizona State Railroad Museum located in Williams, Arizona.
Illinois Central 2739: Could’ve been displayed at the Douglas Railroad Interpretive Center located in Douglas, Wyoming.
Pennsylvania Railroad 1737: Could’ve been displayed at Steamtown National Historic Site located in Scranton, Pennsylvania.
Love the Delorean, TH&B at 3:31, CN etc.
I like sneaking in easter eggs in my videos. The DeLorean's becoming a running joke at this point XD
ANOTHER CAB FORWARD MY FRIEND LOVES THOSE ENGINES!!!!!!!
I love the Thomas And Friends music in the background
It’s tragic that these beautiful historical steam locomotives were destroyed
I really like that you mentioned NP S-4 1372 on this list. Even though she's gone, she does have a few surviving sisters (NP 1354, 1356, 1364, and 1382). In addition to that, one of 1372's cousins, NP S-10 328, has also been preserved. 328 had a very lengthy excursion career herself (1981 to 2001), and my very own Great-Great Grandfather actually drove her!
That’s a cool fun fact there.
IC 4-8-2 2500 was saved at Centralia, IL
Back again! BTW,my grandmother was the secretary to the plant manager during WWII @ Timken Bearing plant here in Columbus OH.
She got the position because she was Valor Dictorian of her school in Del Co. I can remember the plant here in Cols,it was huge took up like 150 acres just east of downtown Cols. Buckeye castings,was another huge plant located on the south side of Cols,owed by the Bush family of presidential fame. They made lots of railroad parts i.e. wheel,trucks,couplers,etc.
15:36 thunder bolt activity simping over the 8in drive wheels 😂 (not being offensive just thought it was funny)
Reading T-1 No. 2123, although it wasn't an excursion star engine, it was one of the members of the T-1 class, built in 1924 as an I-10sa 2-8-0 Consolidation, but was later rebuilt as an 4-8-4 on 1947 by Reading themselves, 2123 was retired in 1959, it was originally to be scrapped but it was saved to be used as a spare parts source for other T-1s used on the Iron Horse Rambles excursions, which are Reading 2100, 2101, 2102 and 2124, on 1966, 2123 was finally scrapped after being cannibalized for parts.
Reading T1 2123 could’ve been displayed at the Ohio Railroad Museum in Worthington, Ohio.
@nathancorcoran5347 At least 2102 got the chance of her life, She also came to north Jersey in Bergen County and Hoboken along with central NJ with the High Iron Company
@@Voucher765 Yes.
On PRR 612's entry I couldn't stop myself from whistling The Amazing Digital Circus Theme. and i myself as a PRR fan will miss 612, Think of her along side N&W 611 since both almost have the same numbers. That would've been cool to see.
As a bit of a Pennsy fan, I can agree that 612, along with 1737, should've been preserved. Then we could've had all four PRR K4's in preservation.
The 2613s tender was not sold to Richard Jensen, IC 2612 and 2614s tenders were. Both were cut up in the early 2010s
How do you know this?
@@NWCell1138 I've talked with a few who have looked into Richard Jensen's history
Some other PRR excursion engines that got away were 2 G5s, and E6 1000 and a E3.
I knew many a PRR engine man growing up. Most only liked the K4 because it could haul heavier trains easier. But they said the E6 rode better and handled better “they rode like a baby buggy” than a K4 which felt it would derail at any moment over 100mph! In addition the E6 was very sure footed for an Atlantic and was easier to fire than a K4 even after stokers were added.
While not an Excursion star Reading G3 219 was almost saved. The Reading tried to donate her to the City of Reading to be placed in City park. The Mayor of Reading at the time was a member of the Reading Society of Model Engineers and a knew most of the Reading Brass reportedly. But the donation was refused because The Reading wanted the city to pay for the truck to get it from the rails to the park. The mayor wouldn’t spend $50 for the lowboy truck to save her !!!
If their Reading G3 219 had still be around to this day, it could’ve been in operation at the Age of Steam Roundhouse in Sugarcreek, Ohio.
I loved locomotives when I was 5 ,but it is sad to see one gone.
SP 4460 is preserved at the St Louis Museum of Transport
Was not expecting TADC music in this video.
I hope someday we will have enough new build locomotives to make up for these poor engines that were gone too soon.
So 4443 was one of my honorable mentions for other retired excursion star videos
Wow the Southern Pacific 4443 the GS-4? Nice!
28:48 Just as a point of clarification, there is no current rework of the Timken 1111 Four Aces in progress for Trainz Forge. A team member I asked personally on the matter said "a Timken rework is not in the pipeline".
Then why was it removed?
what is the sad music of 2613 at 11:49?
R.I.P to our steam locomotives that do not survive the museum saving them
"Friction bearings" were a marketing term Timken invented to sell more roller bearings to make plain bearings seem like bad juju.
Amazing video!
How about the next video of this caliber be about the most underrated preserved American Steam Locomotives in operation
Yes plz do a video about CB&Q 6315!!!
That interesting you featured New Haven steam locomotives, cause I all ways wondered what happened to those steam locomotives made by New Haven. That steam engine 3025, I've seen that steam engine several times at the Essex steam train ride, but I didn't know its a Chinese locomotive in disguise. Thats Unfortunate the New Haven locomotive you mentioned was scrapped, but at least it lives on in that movie. Nice video by the way.
Indeed. An old conductor I work with came from that line being both a Conneticuit native and New Haven fan his favorite engine to work with was clearly the 3025 and though its a replica, its a darn good one.
@@Thunderbolt_1000_Siren that's really cool.
Pennsylvania RR 612 also has another train sister still in existence: the all too familiar and famous K4 611... I would love to c a vid of that one...
4:58 no there are not. There was water left in her boiler and now it’s rusted out. That’s gonna just gonna be for show.
When I first watched this video, I didn’t know that PRR 612 was another K4 excursion star besides 1361. It’s awesome to see two K4s still here to this day, but still, there should’ve been more K4s with streamlined bodies and unique modifications in the hands of preservation. It’s still sad that many thousands of steam engines had to face the cutter’s torch. Even the engines that have changed railroading forever should’ve been preserved. I can go on and on about having more steam engines being preserved just to make preservation better.
And I didn’t know that there was a New Haven steam locomotive. And yes, I do know that the New Haven along with the Lehigh Valley don’t have any steam locomotives preserved with a few parts preserved. For example: A Lehigh Valley locomotive had its bell preserved at the Railroad Museum Of Pennsylvania aka my favorite railroad museum of all time. Really love this video. 10/10
4:51 I’ve seen this SP cab forward at the CSRM before!
Me too.
15:36 🤨a y o🤨
NP superpower locomotives really got the short end of the stick with preservation
Except for the early 4-8-4’s of the Northern Pacific. Which were the first 4-8-4’s ever to be built.
Yeah. It's a big shame. However, 19 of their steam locomotives have survived, including 1070, 924 (who's now operational) and 328.
I would like to see another scrapped excursion star video
icr 2613 we will miss you now it is time for you to venture were trains can run forever in peace and no scrap in site thank you for your time with our world.
Shame 3016 was scrapped, I remember watching It Happened to Jane when I was a child with my momma.
It's sad to see a Steam Train get scrapped, Steam Locomotives are one of the most amazing man-made Transportation Mode. It's sad to see a iron giant like a Steam Locomotive be scrapped just because other powerful and faster Trains were made. In my opinion, Steam Trains should've been saved for freight or something...
It's really sad that these trains were scrapped but great top 5 video 6:10
I don't think the FRA had anything to do with plain journals being blocked from interchange. The AAR is the interchange organization you are thinking of.
14:28 You can kill the locomotive, but you can't kill the memories.
The old lesson they didn't know what they had until it was gone.
I enjoy your videos. I would like to make a suggestion for your next project. I would love to see you make a video about the Livingston, Louisiana train Derailment of 1982.
Can u do another top 5 scrapped excursion star
15:36 LOL! 😆
Im gonna be honest with you, both 5629s and 2613s stories are frustrating. (one engine I think deserves a replica is the 4 aces because of how it was the best advertisement and the reason why roller bearing are used on trains today)
Which instrumental version of “The Wreck of Old 97” did you use as the background music for number four?
Hey Lemon
@@Voucher765 Yooooooo
@@TheGs4_4449 Hey bud
YIPPIE ITS FINNALY HERE
I live literally a block from the Worthington Railway Museum, where they have the N&W 578
It's too bad that they can't get any corporate sponsors to donate to our local Museum. I have even tried to get Anhiser Busch to come on board,but they replied that isn't a endeavor that they would be willing to take part in.. shameful, since our Railway Museum is literally across the tracks from their Columbus bottling mega brewery. We need our locomotive to go to age of steam round house for restoration!
Save our beluigered Railway history!
Norfolk & Western 578 is the most forgotten excursion star steam locomotive besides some of these steam locomotives, even in the previous video from last year too.
I did know that Norfolk & Western 578 isn’t the only N&W 4-6-2 to be used in excursion service. It’s sibling Norfolk & Western 563 was also used on a few excursion trips before it was sadly scrapped. It could’ve been in operation at the Steam Railroading Institute in Owosso, Michigan to this day if it was still around in preservation today.
3:43 there’s my Rivarossi model!!!
@Random4-6-2 I know. I’m just saying that’s the locomotive I have
15:39 "why am I so weird..."
*looks at my steam locomotive waifus* Good question
I think Illinois railway museum wanted to buy 2613 for preservation
Here’s how I would imagine if all of these steam locomotives could’ve been preserved at to this day. Along with the two I mentioned previously of another video from last year.
Southern Pacific Cab Forward 4274: Could’ve been displayed at the Western Railway Museum located in Suisun City, California.
New Haven 3016: Could’ve been in operation at the Strasburg Railroad located in Strasburg, Pennsylvania.
Illinois Central 2613: Could’ve been displayed at the Illinois Railway Museum located in Union, Illinois.
Pennsylvania Railroad 612: Could’ve been displayed at the Baltimore & Ohio Railroad Museum located in Baltimore, Maryland.
Timken 1111 (A.K.A Northern Pacific 2626): Could’ve been in operation at the North Shore Scenic Railroad located in Duluth, Minnesota (Located near the Lake Superior Railroad Museum).
As for the honorable mentions.
Southern Pacific 4443: Could’ve been displayed at the San Francisco 4th and King Street Train Station located in San Francisco, California.
Northern Pacific 1372: Could’ve been in operation at the Mid Continent Railway Museum located in North Freedom, Wisconsin.
Chicago, Burlington & Quincy 6315: Could’ve been displayed at the Galveston Railroad Museum located in Galveston, Texas.
New Haven 3016 would probably make more sense at the Essex Steam Train than Strasburg.
@@BenBensonStudios Honestly it doesn’t matter.
@@nathancorcoran5347 Nathan, I just want to say this. You are perhaps the king of alternate history for steam locomotives. It'd be cool if you make videos about excursion stars if they were not scrapped.
Northern Pacific 1372 would probably make more sense being operational at the Phoenix Valley Central from December 1972 to January 31, 2012.
@@EwanMajko Let Nathan make the alternative histories.
Mentioned that there's a deloran from back from the future
Wow mr conductors sparkle sound from shining time station 25:42
I'm surprised a lotta people haven't noticed that yet
Here’s the list for part 3
5-CB&Q 6315
4-SP 4443
3-NP 1372
2-CN 90
1-UP 3967
Why is 6315 so low? :(
15 years is definitely a short time for a steam, some New York Central steam locomotive were scrapped that werent even in service for 5 years. As far as Illinois Central goes even though they're rebuilt from 2-10-0's there are still two 4-8-2's preserved, 2500 is on display not far from me in Centralia , Il and 2542 in Mississippi.
I think Gordon and Scotsman should show Hank more respect.
@Random4-6-2 Hank is a Pennsylvania Railroad K4 who showed up in season 12 of Thomas & Friends.
Hey the K4 doesn’t look bad on freight trains
yes make a 3rd part
We need that third installment
I heard about port of tillamok bay railroad 4406 + 4716 (maybe) they both gave train attractions until 2007, there were left to rot after a storm caused damage to the rails and were left to rot
What remains of the POTB railroad is Potb no.101 and the railcars and are still there today
Oh wow it's too bad these locomotives are gone
I have a feeling that 2613 is going to take number one on this
Me too
I love 4274! I will always miss her! R.I.P. 4274! ❤🙏😔
Me too.
1943-1959
@@jacksalvin364 That’s Right.
Let's not forget CNJ 810 which was scrapped after doing an excursion in May 1953
@@Voucher765 Central Railroad of New Jersey 810 could’ve been in operation at the Age of Steam Roundhouse in Sugarcreek, Ohio. If it wasn’t scrapped.
Yes I have my honorable mentions
If you do another video, look up southern Pacific 4367, it was the last SP MT type scraped and it made it all the way to 1961, I've seen pictures of it double heading a steam excursion.
Interesting. 👍💯
What about Union Pacific Challenger 3967? From what I heard, it pulled an excursion, too.
Yea what about her
Give us part 3
I’ve heard of steam locomotives being scrapped before, including the scrapped American excursion stars.
I wish there was more train usage. As in way more than it currently is here in the United States. For passenger travel. For both cross-country and statewide travel
I need to see these engines
I Think the type of engine in the thumbnail is still alive in Brazil, but i Can be wrong
21:44 you should also include the film pall Joey because 4443 was filmed on it
Do a vid about the Penssys K4s
What’s the song at 4:30?
Hey thunderbolt 1000 l have a some question what kind of music that you like and can I talk to you. Thanks.
Good
HISTORYYYYYYYYYYYYY
YO I LOVE 4274
Are their any videos about the cab forward that don't include commentary about smokey tunnels and that being the reason they exist, or does it have to be gone through with all of them.
Is it bad that I caught the “Not Alone” soundtrack from Digital Circus as soon as the video started?
Since you love the K4s so much, why don't make a video of the history of K4s?