This was helpful, thank you! I need to wrap my head around this now. Am only interested in the implications as far as bending is concerned. Lot of conflicting info on the internet about bending on chromatics. Some say you can bend only on draw notes, some say both draw and blow. Some say you can bend only a semi-tone, some say you can bend a full tone. And then theres valved vs valveless. You are saying valved has more bending potential. Okay 🤔
I think the best sounding valveless chromatic out there right now is the seydel nonslider. It is much, much netter sounding than the foreruner, but obviously different since it has no slide
@@TheRatBoyBoy true, bit C, which most play, is valveless. Anyways, I'm a bigger fan of JDR's trochilus now, which is essentially a 10 hole valveless chronatic (if you buy the solo tuned version) it's tone is far superior to the forerunner in my opinion
I Never tried Suzuki chroms because I don't get a long with their diatonics. I don't think 300€ is bad for a harmonica this good. It has quickly become my favorite and that says a lot, because it competes against some pretty expensive companions 😂
Man it was a biased review! You were clearly boxing with the poor Forerunner's slide to make it sound. It has quite a quiet slide. Yes, there's a difference but it's like 5-7% not ten times as the price difference between the two is.
It was not intentional, the slide on the Seydel is a lot stiffer so transitioning between them like that doesn't feel natural. I probably transferred the muscle memory from the Seydel to the Forerunner. I can post a side by side comparison with slide noise if you would like?
This was helpful, thank you! I need to wrap my head around this now. Am only interested in the implications as far as bending is concerned. Lot of conflicting info on the internet about bending on chromatics. Some say you can bend only on draw notes, some say both draw and blow. Some say you can bend only a semi-tone, some say you can bend a full tone. And then theres valved vs valveless. You are saying valved has more bending potential. Okay 🤔
Valved can bend on draw and blow notes. Some are able to bend several semitones, but that's not something I am familiar with. I only bend for expressive effect on valved. If you are curious you can always make some valves at home and try on one hole on a diatonic to test it?
Easttop is just fine
They make some decent harmonicas at a low price. Which one is your favorite?
This was helpful, thank you! I need to wrap my head around this now. Am only interested in the implications as far as bending is concerned. Lot of conflicting info on the internet about bending on chromatics. Some say you can bend only on draw notes, some say both draw and blow. Some say you can bend only a semi-tone, some say you can bend a full tone. And then theres valved vs valveless. You are saying valved has more bending potential. Okay 🤔
I think the best sounding valveless chromatic out there right now is the seydel nonslider. It is much, much netter sounding than the foreruner, but obviously different since it has no slide
I haven't tried the nonslider as I am quite fond of my button, but Seydel certainly are reliable! Have you played the nonslider for long?
depending on the key, not all nonsliders are fully valveless
@@TheRatBoyBoy true, bit C, which most play, is valveless. Anyways, I'm a bigger fan of JDR's trochilus now, which is essentially a 10 hole valveless chronatic (if you buy the solo tuned version) it's tone is far superior to the forerunner in my opinion
A bit thinner is an understatement. The difference would be a lot more pronounced in other circumstances....
The Easttop actually cuts better in the mix when played amplified. I use it frequently for busking and live shows and play a 270 for recording.
I agree, it's a distinct difference. At least to my perception as a player. Have you tried them yourself?
That's interesting. I rarely play amplified and haven't taken the Forerunner through a PA. What kind of music do you play when busking?
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300 Euros for a Seydel deluxe? Never liked em much, but at the price you quote you could buy a Sirius 56 for less....
I Never tried Suzuki chroms because I don't get a long with their diatonics. I don't think 300€ is bad for a harmonica this good. It has quickly become my favorite and that says a lot, because it competes against some pretty expensive companions 😂
Man it was a biased review! You were clearly boxing with the poor Forerunner's slide to make it sound. It has quite a quiet slide. Yes, there's a difference but it's like 5-7% not ten times as the price difference between the two is.
It was not intentional, the slide on the Seydel is a lot stiffer so transitioning between them like that doesn't feel natural. I probably transferred the muscle memory from the Seydel to the Forerunner. I can post a side by side comparison with slide noise if you would like?
What's the tyk tuk sound with slider in forerunner
This was helpful, thank you! I need to wrap my head around this now. Am only interested in the implications as far as bending is concerned. Lot of conflicting info on the internet about bending on chromatics. Some say you can bend only on draw notes, some say both draw and blow. Some say you can bend only a semi-tone, some say you can bend a full tone. And then theres valved vs valveless. You are saying valved has more bending potential. Okay 🤔
Valved can bend on draw and blow notes. Some are able to bend several semitones, but that's not something I am familiar with. I only bend for expressive effect on valved.
If you are curious you can always make some valves at home and try on one hole on a diatonic to test it?