@@endlessparadoxproductions3621 all i know is they did have a brief moment catching up before they went back to business. I didnt personally read it but yeah.
the Arbiter killed billions of our kind. As I've gotten older I begin to see things from ONI's perspective and not the naive child I was who hoped for an amicable outcome where Chief and Arbiter are friends.
Him and R'tas team up with chief against the banished would be great, but I think R'tas is wanted by ONI for destroying a UNSC ship while hunting down brutes.
In the book Halo: Bad Blood which picks up at the end of the game, it's mentioned that the Master Chief and the Arbiter ended up spending the night catching up with each other before the gang left to meet up with the Infinity in the morning. Before they left, the Arbiter promised that they'd defeat Cortana together as they had done the Covenant.
@@anouaressanoussioh gods I hope not. I was just happy that they managed to find a half decent way to stop that story line. I’m not saying the writing to get rid of Cortana in infinite was excellent or even good, but they made the right choice not whipping a dead horse.
@@zanesnep like they’re not terrible, but they look so much less cooler than 1, 2 and Reach. I’ll admit 3 they looked a bit goofy, but they still looked cool, especially the arbiter. However 4 and 5 gave them mega hunch backs and incredibly clunky aesthetic
I feel like buck should've been a lot more confident than the younger spartans considering he's been an ODST since reach and knows what he's doing, whereas the others haven't had that on-the-ground experience
The others are still highly trained soldiers though? Right? I haven't played five but I wouldn't think you'd let just any random soldier become a Spartan. They should all be confident because they're treated like gods in this game, being able to just run through a huge battle with no issues
@@jeff3221 True, but I think if Buck is scared, considering what he's been through the others would be too. Specifically, Vale was recruited straight from training exercises rather than from active duty like most Spartan-IVs. Having her scared at the start of the game and comforted by the others, then later in the game having her confidence grow and during the last few missions her being unafraid would be a nice opportunity for character growth.
@@angrywizard3199 Wasn't Vale an exception due to her service as a mediator between Humanity and the Elites? I don't remember the specifics, but as far as I'm aware she was one of the UNSC's experts on Elite culture. (Which is why she carries a Plasma Pistol as default rather than a Magnum) Besides, most Spartan-4s were just Spartan-3s, ODSTs, and veteran marines. I'm pretty sure Buck was one of the best soldiers the UNSC had though.
@@tTaseric That has nothing to do with combat efficiency tho. It’s like saying Upham from Saving Private Ryan was a qualified soldier because of his knowledge of German culture and language, clearly that wasn’t the case. Not to say Vale is useless cuz she’s far from it.
Buck was going through it at this time; he denied leading a spartan team after all the problems with his original odst team. After Halo 5, is when he regains his confidence and willingness to be a leader
@@erendripaeger9875 Dont worry my bro. Halo Infinite will have dlcs that we will probably play as the arbiter. I understand its ridiculous and stupid but atleast its something.
Meanwhile Arbiter has killed millions of Humans. You Halo fanboys sure are dumb. And Locke Still has a better personality than Chief and the other socially inept Spartans.
Thel'Vadam is a straight-forward man. He knows this whole formal human greeting thing is pointless and he is wise enough to inform himself about who he is working with. It's easy to see why the Sangheili houses rallied behind him.
Not really; Halsey definitely did have and deserved a more emotional connection with Chief. She's basically his mother and has known him for like 42 years at this point whereas the Arbiter has known Chief for a month tops. That said, the Arbiter 100% deserved more interactions with Chief. According to the novel, "Bad Blood" Chief and Blue Team after that final cutscene ate dinner and told war stories well into the early hours of the next morning
@@Arby6784 A month tops? Are you serious? They've known each other since H2 and H5 takes place years after. They spent almost every moment together basically throughout all of H3 as well. Tho Halsey definitely would have more of an emotional connection still since she practically raised all the Spartan II's.
the MC did not know the arbiter that long, yall are on something. After H3, the chief was frozen for 5 fuckin years, and sanghelios was already in a civil war by the time Chief is out, from what I recall.
But what made those two great was the people around them that played off them like noble team with six and the other ODSTs with Rookie Locke's team were all generic and boring.
I hope we get to play as him in some point in infinite. Edit: Ive heard that the campaign will have expansions, I have hope now, this game is suppose to last 10 years. Edit 2: never have hope in 343 industries.
Who needs Arbiter in 343? For them he is but a reminder of an age gone long ago. An anachronism. They want to introduce new cardboard characters. Who needs an old one?
@@user-xb1wh5mt4l The Arbiter DESERVES to have his story fleshed out further. He wasn't in H4, He was barely used in H5. If anything, it's the Master Chief character that's long in the tooth imo.
the way Halsey refers to chief by simply name compared to Locke just being another solider is something I never really noticed. chief is more than just a machine or another soldier and well Halsey would know it best
Halsey selected chief personally. She was the one that promoted him to squad leader during the spartan training. He is her greatest success. Combined with cortana, he saved humanity with the assistance of the arbiter later on.
I mean she basically sees Spartan IVs as an insult to her Spartan Program, which it is. A random soldier with better equipment can never hold up with a Spartan II.
Seeing Spartans/humans and Sangheli fighting side by side is just amazing. Hatred at the start of the war turned into respect by the middle and then into friendship at the end
Mostly they respect Chief tbh I don’t believe most swords of sanghelios respect the others besides chief imo like arbiter he respects Chief however he some what respects Locke to a certain degree
Elites still see Humans as their inferiors, since most Humans aren't warriors by elite standards. The only Humans they would respect are (some) Spartans since they are just as strong and capable fighters.
@@tTaseric that shit always bothered me in Halo wars 1 and halo 2. Never understood why their nose plate when down and between their mandibles. Shit annoyed the fuck out of me. Glad the redesign fixed it
It would've been great if Arbiter approached Chief and Locke stepped forward in a defensive manner and Chief just walks forward as well saying, "He is my brother" and actually greets Arbiter
It would have been even better if Chief would just casually have locked up Lockes armour tipped him over and then greeted Arbiter with "good to see at least one real warrior"
In Bad Blood, it talks about how Chief and Thal actually spent the night catching up. The pair started as enemies only to become brothers. THAT is Halo, not the crap that Paramount is spewing.
Love how arbiter just straight up tells locke that chief is blatantly better than any other Spartan includeding him. Just shows the respect that he has for his former enemy and how little he thinks of Locke which who can blame for that last point
I hate how Arbiter didn't have a single word with Chief in this cutscene. What were they thinking? Chief and Arbiter went through so much together to not say a single word to each other
I'm going to say this, the Arbiter needs his very own game where he's is the main character. My idea is that it would be like a blend between the previous Halo Games and the 2018 God of War game along with a few things. 1. it would be an Open-World where you can travel to different planets, command armies/fleets and battle enemies such as the Flood and The Banished. 2. Like 2018 God of War, you can upgrade and customize with new armor sets and weapons throughout your journey. 3. You can play the Campaign in either Single or Co-Op like in the previous Halo Games. 4. You'll also be able to switch weapons from 1st Person/Shooter to 3rd Person/Melee.
@@davidbarker3374 I mean it's not THAT ambitious of an idea. Most of it already exists in Halo Infinite, just add weapon/armor upgrades and more of an emphasis on AI allies. Infinite already does the Open World formula well enough as a first attempt so it's not like, too much of a change except maybe more environments.
Spartans are the star of the show ultimately. It would however, be possible to have gameplay where you either play as master chief or the arbiter. Maybe have a half spartan and half elite campaign were both perspectives of the story are shown kinda like halo 2 OR you get to pick which race you want to pick at the start and you play an entire campaign as one of the two races.
What made the last cutscene annoying for me was that it was Halsey that said the final line, not The Arbiter. Like, I get it for story reasons, but The Arbiter saying something to Chief instead would, in my opinion, been more effective.
If chief said something to Halsey or even had some extra cutscenes of them interacting chief Halsey and arbiter been probably the best cutscene in the whole game
Well, as far as i know Arbiter didn't appear in Halo Infinite, but maaybe a DLC including more content could make him show, maybe a Sword's of Sangheilos group/fleet arrives to Zeta Halo to rescue the remaining forces of the UNSC or something like that. Or better, in the next main Halo game have a co op campaing with arbiter as active character like Halo 3, or a Spin Off of Arbiter during the story of Infinite. I dunno there are a lot of options
While the Arbiter wasn't in Infinite, a few days ago a new book was announced to be coming out called Halo: Outcasts and it features the Arbiter and Olympia Vale from Fireteam Osiris going to the planet Netherop in search of an artifact that supposedly can help to defeat Cortana while an outside force manipulates them. I'm guessing that that's Nizat 'Kvarosee and I'm hoping that it FINALLY brings an end to his character.
The fact that a character so great as the arbiter was only featured for 4 1/2 minutes of cut screen time is insulting to the character. Halo 5 was upsetting.
Even with all of the redesigns that 343 did, Arbiter looks like a warrior king and I love it more than his original (but that’s just me) to Andromeda and back.
They’re a different race, kinda like Africans, Asians, philippine, ect. If you played all the halos reach, 1-3, 2 anniversary, and 4-5 you can tell subtle to obvious differences. Even in the halo legends there’s another race
@@user-iy7jo7bq4f The reason Arbiter and the Swords of Sanghelios looked like the other race was because modelling an entirely new set of models for Elites would be incredibly time-consuming and resource-intensive. The Elites pretty much change their anatomy every game anyway, this was just the first time it's noticeable.
@@tTaseric "Time consuming..." A bad excuse... "Noticeable..." Like so blatant that it broke the suspension of disbelief... It's a terrible choice through and through.
@@HartyBiker 65 is getting up there considering these games take about 4-5 years to make. If they started today he would be 70 by the time of release so that is my point. They better get on it.
I love that the Arbiter on the first meeting basically said "Yeah cut your formal bullshit, we both know you're not here because you like me so much." He smells ONI a mile ahead.
@@Aredel To be fair though, MC didn't have much of a character in his first game either. Then again, that was a whole different era of gaming when games were much less story-driven.
@@Mediados The games still had established characters that developed over the course of the series. Arbiter was the biggest among them. Chief, as Joe Staton said, was mainly a vessel for the player to experience the story. That still doesn't excuse that they cut what could have been an epic revelation just to hamfistedly advance the plot.
It would be interesting if 343 makes a dlc telling the story of Arbiter and his forces during the campaign of Halo Infinite, as a paralel story of the main game. Or, maybe a story after the campaign where Arbiter and his forces, or maybe a mixed UNSC-Swrods of Sanghelios group with arbiter in charge arrives to rescue chief and the remaining forces
There is concept art of halo infinite where the Arbiter appear with a fussion of the Halo 2 anniversary armor and the halo 5 armor and a red cape with the logo of the Sanghelios Swords in somekind of dessert and i would kill just to see that concept in a videogame
Man they really squandered the story potential in this game. How did no one during the design process of the final cutscene go "Hey remember how people really like the idea of chief and arby being buddies? How about instead of being lazy and lame we actually give Arbiter some lines where he acknowledges that he is glad that one of his closest allies during the end of the Covenant war is actually alive?" Honestly the story would have been better if they just paid some deep lore fans to write the damn thing lol. The Chief VS Locke fight scene was also one of the game's biggest story blunders. Its like two potato sacks smacking each other around.
If you were actually a 'deep lore fan' you'd know Halsey deserved the moment more than Arbiter. An Arbiter / Chief reunion would have been incredibly surface-level fanservice. I would have liked an after-credits scene with them. This is the first time Chief and Halsey have seen each other since First Strike, Halsey thought he was dead most of that time. Also, Arbiter did have some lines where he acknowledged Chief and their partnership, but they were in-game lines rather than cutscenes. If you actually believe the sentiment of "343 are lazy, they should hire some REAL fans" then you're either an idiot or a child.
@@tTaseric Yeah well surface level fan service isn't a bad thing if you do it sparingly. You need to chill out my dude. Maybe the deep lore entitles Halsey to a moment with chief and I know that but people are more familiar with Arby so having a scene with them and not having them exchange at least some lines once they're finally face to face is a huge missed opportunity. I don't think 343 are actually lazy. I think they didn't know what they were doing and their focus was in the completely wrong direction.
it is a crime that we never got to see halo 6. such a beautiful setup with osiris, blue team, John and thel+the swords of sanhelios VS cortana and the created. dont get me wrong i love infinites story, but infinite is a halo 7 or 8, there is SO MUCH story there that had a perfect cliffhangar. not to mention guilty spark in the legendary ending
I hate that in the halo 2 anniversary opening halo 5 cut scene, the arbiter and elites have a classic design, but in the real game they look like the storm covenant elites
Dude fr gets me mad cause the halo 2 one looks so good and then we get to the halo 5 one which is like wait how did Arbiter just change form. I just pray that in Halo Infinite if Arbiter pops up he looks like his old self.
@@theshipmasterbanished3902 there were art style inconsistencies between the two, because Halo 2 cinematics were handled by outsource studio Blurr, and were meant to be consistent with the art style of Halo 2, while Halo 5 already was all knees deep within the new 343 art style and combining them would probably feel even more odd to an eye. 343 mishandled the art direction utterly with Halo 4 and 5, not because of the art style itself, but because of it's aggresive and not thought out implementation. If Chief for instance started with og Mark VI armor on Forward Unto Dawn, and later on got the new armor and were it more in the future when the UNSC had time to adapt new armor looks and generally new technologies, it would be much more acceptable, it would feel like evolution of what came before and not utter upside down of it just for the sake of having their own style.
in a way it is kinda emotional, like yeah its missing alot such as the arby and chief interaction but cathy seeing basically her son again after all this time is really nice... its grown on me since the first i saw it years ago...
@@thecommunistloli1042 i will totally scream if i see that, it would be totally badass seeing Arbiter with a MGR style with Rules of Nature playing un the background while running agaisnt a Banished Scarab and cut it in half with he's energy Sword
That’s actually quite a good theory he also did question why Locke wanted to go at him in the anniversary cinematic of halo 2 anniversary that’s actually really quite interesting
I never really liked Halsey as a character but that final line of dialogue at the end from her put the nail in the coffin. She's like, "It took you long enough" and Chief is like "Yeah sorry for trying to track down and destroy the one thing that could put us all 6 feet under while also fighting through waves of Covenant and Prometheans"
Arbi is just badass if we see arbi again in the next halo end they both kickass in the next game, I'm gonna cry. Most likely he's gonna die for dramatic effect (mostly happens to the characters that had lived a long time such as Sgt Johnson) but still. Would be pretty sick
I think they made the elites seem too...heavy, I always imagined them as strong, tall, and swift, kinda like a linebacker. Solid, but still fast and agile, but they bulked them up too much. I mean it's like you can feel how heavy and slow they are.
Heavy, yes, but not slow. I mean you have to imagine that they are basically a tower of muscle and sinew, it makes sense that they have some weight in their step.
They certainly have weight, but they aren’t clumsy, stumbling fools who have to throw their weight forwards with each step. These fuckers can sprint up to 35mph.
@@Mediados Yeah, but they also use camo right? So they should be able to move quietly. That's why I like the Reach designs, you can see that height and power, but they look more swift. These designs were just too heavy for me, its was as they made them more like Brutes to make up for the fact that there were little to no brutes
Imagine playing an entire game dedicated solely on the Elite side, it should be called "Holy Relic" and it should focus on the life of the Arbiter, his rise and fall from the ranks, the 1st encounter with Spartan 117 and and.... there is so much writing potential here! Microsoft.... please make this one for the fans!
While the Arbiter wasn't in Infinite, a few days ago a new book was announced to be coming out called Halo: Outcasts and it features the Arbiter and Olympia Vale from Fireteam Osiris going to the planet Netherop in search of an artifact that supposedly can help to defeat Cortana while an outside force manipulates them. I'm guessing that that's Nizat 'Kvarosee and I'm hoping that it FINALLY brings an end to his character.
Damn Palmer’s armor looks like it was thrown into a shredder. I fr know how tough she is to that battle on Sanghilios must’ve been brutal now that I think about it.
I’m happy I was the one who made it 1k likes
@clone who punched a droid how’s ur hand
@@natecondy6193 felt like it shattered across the stars but nothing a little Bacta couldn’t fix
@@Clonewhopunchedadroid1 rule 69 never say no to bacta
lol
I'm happy that you're happy
I was mega pissed when Cheif and the arbiter didn't at least have a bro moment when they see each other
I know right? damn man, feels bad.
Well, they did in the books but it should've been in-game
@@zyphurite what did they say if u know? Just curious
@@endlessparadoxproductions3621 all i know is they did have a brief moment catching up before they went back to business. I didnt personally read it but yeah.
the Arbiter killed billions of our kind. As I've gotten older I begin to see things from ONI's perspective and not the naive child I was who hoped for an amicable outcome where Chief and Arbiter are friends.
Honestly the only reason halo 5 was tolerable for me was the parts with the arbiter and the fact buck is still himself
Arbiter’s part of the story was pretty much the only good part
facts
So true
We need an Arbiter and Buck side story 😂 imagine those two
@@lambdaweaponscache5394 Yeah,it would be cool
The Arbiter deserves his own game.
Halo 2
@@sierrachief117 that's only a few missions but yeah I get what you mean.
Him and R'tas team up with chief against the banished would be great, but I think R'tas is wanted by ONI for destroying a UNSC ship while hunting down brutes.
What ever happened to shipmaster the white elite with arbiter in halo2
@@theboxfoundation6067 that's who R'tas is lol.
I just love how Abiter has his own army. Makes him one of the best Elites in the halo games. Hope to see him again in Halo Infinite
For some reason he appears huge compared to other Elites. Is it some kind of Warhammer 40k Ork "rank=size" thing?
he had his own fleet, bit of a downgrade tbh
@@user-xb1wh5mt4l i think its just his armor and posture
He better be playable in infinite.
I think he will be midway in infinite
In the book Halo: Bad Blood which picks up at the end of the game, it's mentioned that the Master Chief and the Arbiter ended up spending the night catching up with each other before the gang left to meet up with the Infinity in the morning. Before they left, the Arbiter promised that they'd defeat Cortana together as they had done the Covenant.
RIP
Press F for that promise
@@Orionis_Delta Atriox is still alive after we thought he was dead, who says cortana may not be?
@@anouaressanoussioh gods I hope not. I was just happy that they managed to find a half decent way to stop that story line. I’m not saying the writing to get rid of Cortana in infinite was excellent or even good, but they made the right choice not whipping a dead horse.
even with the art style of 5 arbiter still looks great I only wish we got to see him and chief talk in the game not in a book
nah nu-elites are terrible
@@zanesnep like they’re not terrible, but they look so much less cooler than 1, 2 and Reach. I’ll admit 3 they looked a bit goofy, but they still looked cool, especially the arbiter. However 4 and 5 gave them mega hunch backs and incredibly clunky aesthetic
In what book did they talk ?
@@johnderat2652 idk just remember watching a video about it
@@johnderat2652 it’s a conversation Buck fell asleep on until the end of the conversation. From the Book Bad Blood
I feel like buck should've been a lot more confident than the younger spartans considering he's been an ODST since reach and knows what he's doing, whereas the others haven't had that on-the-ground experience
The others are still highly trained soldiers though? Right? I haven't played five but I wouldn't think you'd let just any random soldier become a Spartan. They should all be confident because they're treated like gods in this game, being able to just run through a huge battle with no issues
@@jeff3221 True, but I think if Buck is scared, considering what he's been through the others would be too. Specifically, Vale was recruited straight from training exercises rather than from active duty like most Spartan-IVs. Having her scared at the start of the game and comforted by the others, then later in the game having her confidence grow and during the last few missions her being unafraid would be a nice opportunity for character growth.
@@angrywizard3199 Wasn't Vale an exception due to her service as a mediator between Humanity and the Elites? I don't remember the specifics, but as far as I'm aware she was one of the UNSC's experts on Elite culture. (Which is why she carries a Plasma Pistol as default rather than a Magnum)
Besides, most Spartan-4s were just Spartan-3s, ODSTs, and veteran marines. I'm pretty sure Buck was one of the best soldiers the UNSC had though.
@@tTaseric That has nothing to do with combat efficiency tho. It’s like saying Upham from Saving Private Ryan was a qualified soldier because of his knowledge of German culture and language, clearly that wasn’t the case. Not to say Vale is useless cuz she’s far from it.
Buck was going through it at this time; he denied leading a spartan team after all the problems with his original odst team. After Halo 5, is when he regains his confidence and willingness to be a leader
Arbiter and Chief deserved their own bro moment cutscene and a mission dedicated to the two of them.
Were it so easy…
@@mechcommander7876 😢
@@erendripaeger9875 Dont worry my bro. Halo Infinite will have dlcs that we will probably play as the arbiter. I understand its ridiculous and stupid but atleast its something.
@@yourewallsareveryconvenien8292 honestly having campaign dlc in a game is refreshing considering how multiplayer focused every game is these days
@@mechcommander7876 yup :(
Said "I saved your life today" to the Arbiter
I don't want to hate you Locke, but dude you're making it hard
Ebonics
Meanwhile Arbiter has killed millions of Humans. You Halo fanboys sure are dumb. And Locke Still has a better personality than Chief and the other socially inept Spartans.
@@zoharborage6609 you’ve got to be trolling
@@nathangordon4891 Halo Fan boys are dumb don't even know there own lore....
Locke wasn’t that bad of a character for me and he *did* save the arbiter
I really love how arbiter was the first one to turn off his blade when he saw chief
It's a subtle hint of the respect and care the two of them have for one another, they would never have an activated weapon in front of the other.
I KNOWWWWW BRUHH I WAS WAITING FOR SOMEONE TO SAY IT !!
@@cedricallman9733 He's also like "oh, it's him. Never mind."
Ah the Arbiter...a design so cool you can't fuck it up.
But boy did they try!
Lmaoooo
He looks cooler
Honestly his new design is really cool but I miss the old armor. They should have kept the helmet at least.
@@godzillaking4828 he’s definitely not cooler, he looks like a naked turkey wearing plastic
@@BasedSpaceGoji nah man you blind gold is cool
Spartans: *need jetpacks to safely land on the floor*
Elites: “just drop in, smack the lip wah-pah, drop down sbahhAAAHHahhh”
Their armor weight less. It is not a 500 kg walking tank the Mjolnir armor is.
@@user-xb1wh5mt4l It's basically a lightly armored harness, the personal shield does most of the work
Ashley I also think that Covenant's armor material is far lighter than titanium plate the Mjolnir suits are made of.
Then you get pitted, so pitted like that 🤙🏼
@@user-xb1wh5mt4l Your correct, titanium holds more weight while worn than.. whatever the the covies use.
This video being under 5 minutes is criminal.
I love how Arbiter just calls out Locke. Like you were sent to kill me in the past, but here you are working for me.
Thel'Vadam is a straight-forward man. He knows this whole formal human greeting thing is pointless and he is wise enough to inform himself about who he is working with. It's easy to see why the Sangheili houses rallied behind him.
@@Mediados especially after the events in the Kilo-5 trilogy books.
@@bigjohnny9759 A man of culture I see.
Yeah wiping up your own shit doesn't give any points.
The Arbiters voice never fails to give me chills…
Keith David at his best
They should have atleast lowered his voice like halo 2 & 3. This threw me off
Watch Spawn the animated series Kieth lends his voice to Spawn and it's awesome
@@KrOnIc343 fr
They absolutely shafted Arbiter in this story. He should’ve had the more “emotional” connection when it came to Chief, not the doctor
Not really; Halsey definitely did have and deserved a more emotional connection with Chief. She's basically his mother and has known him for like 42 years at this point whereas the Arbiter has known Chief for a month tops. That said, the Arbiter 100% deserved more interactions with Chief.
According to the novel, "Bad Blood" Chief and Blue Team after that final cutscene ate dinner and told war stories well into the early hours of the next morning
@@Arby6784 A month tops? Are you serious? They've known each other since H2 and H5 takes place years after. They spent almost every moment together basically throughout all of H3 as well. Tho Halsey definitely would have more of an emotional connection still since she practically raised all the Spartan II's.
@@Arby6784 almost 30 years tf u mean months
the MC did not know the arbiter that long, yall are on something. After H3, the chief was frozen for 5 fuckin years, and sanghelios was already in a civil war by the time Chief is out, from what I recall.
@@Marcel-xu3dl Where the hell do you get 30 years from??? more like 5/6
Thel and Rtas need to come properly back to the games again. Those two alone are badass enough to have their own standalone games!
“Brute ships, staggered line! Shipmaster! They outnumber us, three to one!”
“Then it is an even fight.”
@@fionnnellis2117 All cruisers, fire at will! *BURN* their mongrel hides!
Imagine a prequel set during Reach or installation 05
really. please 343
@@fionnnellis2117 "all ships fire at will. Burn their mongrel hides"
Even arby knew Locke couldn’t fuck with master chief
The re entrance of the fucking Arbiter deserves at least a close up man
Imagine if Agent Locke was another nameless, talkless character, like Noble 6 or Rookie? How much better would this game be
But what made those two great was the people around them that played off them like noble team with six and the other ODSTs with Rookie Locke's team were all generic and boring.
@@solisprime2669 Buck was ok
Buck and Vale were cool
Noble six talked lol
@@seabass9132 six talked less than chief did in CE
I hope we get to play as him in some point in infinite.
Edit: Ive heard that the campaign will have expansions, I have hope now, this game is suppose to last 10 years.
Edit 2: never have hope in 343 industries.
There were rumors that he was supposed to appear on Infinite right ?
My guess is he'll be like campaign dlc
@@ASHtheSLUGCAT why DLC ? Why can't they put him in campaign instead of DLC ?
Who needs Arbiter in 343? For them he is but a reminder of an age gone long ago. An anachronism. They want to introduce new cardboard characters. Who needs an old one?
@@user-xb1wh5mt4l The Arbiter DESERVES to have his story fleshed out further. He wasn't in H4, He was barely used in H5. If anything, it's the Master Chief character that's long in the tooth imo.
the way Halsey refers to chief by simply name compared to Locke just being another solider is something I never really noticed. chief is more than just a machine or another soldier and well Halsey would know it best
Halsey selected chief personally. She was the one that promoted him to squad leader during the spartan training. He is her greatest success. Combined with cortana, he saved humanity with the assistance of the arbiter later on.
I mean she basically sees Spartan IVs as an insult to her Spartan Program, which it is. A random soldier with better equipment can never hold up with a Spartan II.
Seeing Spartans/humans and Sangheli fighting side by side is just amazing. Hatred at the start of the war turned into respect by the middle and then into friendship at the end
Mostly they respect Chief tbh I don’t believe most swords of sanghelios respect the others besides chief imo like arbiter he respects Chief however he some what respects Locke to a certain degree
Elites still see Humans as their inferiors, since most Humans aren't warriors by elite standards. The only Humans they would respect are (some) Spartans since they are just as strong and capable fighters.
It's like World War II, Japan didn't like the United States but after the War ended, both nations became best friends.
That is precisely what it is based on. The Elites are literally alien samurai with their own alien bushido and everything.
Halo 2 anniversary armor: oh wow that’s a great redesign
Halo 5 armor/mandibles: *look at how they massacred my boy*
To be fair the Halo 2 Anniversary mandibles weren't exactly amazing either, but at least they didn't go into his fucking eye lmao
that's logical, the Arby aka Thel Vadamn is no longer an arbiter
@@tTaseric that shit always bothered me in Halo wars 1 and halo 2. Never understood why their nose plate when down and between their mandibles. Shit annoyed the fuck out of me. Glad the redesign fixed it
It would've been great if Arbiter approached Chief and Locke stepped forward in a defensive manner and Chief just walks forward as well saying, "He is my brother" and actually greets Arbiter
Master Chief wouldn't say something so overtly sentimental. He's too reserved for that.
It would have been even better if Chief would just casually have locked up Lockes armour tipped him over and then greeted Arbiter with "good to see at least one real warrior"
@@redaug4212 knowing chief it would probably be one subtle nod
@@candle_eatist exactly. And Arbiter would just nod back
@@redaug4212 now he might
God I love Arbiter so damn much! Hes just such a badass! Keith David gives him such a phenomenal presence! Love Buck too, one of my favorites!
In Bad Blood, it talks about how Chief and Thal actually spent the night catching up. The pair started as enemies only to become brothers. THAT is Halo, not the crap that Paramount is spewing.
Yeah I actually am re reading bad blood aswell cause it’s such a good read
I just wanna see humans and elites fighting brutes again
Just realized arbiter is voiced by Keith david, who also did sgt Foley from mw2
"Ramirez get out the way, you're gonna get run over!"
He voice spawn from the hbo series
And spawn from Mortal Kombat 11
Love how arbiter just straight up tells locke that chief is blatantly better than any other Spartan includeding him. Just shows the respect that he has for his former enemy and how little he thinks of Locke which who can blame for that last point
I hate how Arbiter didn't have a single word with Chief in this cutscene. What were they thinking? Chief and Arbiter went through so much together to not say a single word to each other
To be fair, Chief says a grand total of two lines and a single word to Arby throughout the entire Bungie trilogy.
THEY DIDNT ADD TALKING WITH ARBITER AND CHIEF
Arbiter did say to Locke, when you see the chief, tell him, I send my greetings.
@@Nate-rl6he doesnt count
@@popdacorn7949 ok alright.
Yeah, should've added a legendary ending where he pushes past halsey and just gives Arby's a massive bro shake or hug
Thats because chief was in genesis or whatever
I'm going to say this, the Arbiter needs his very own game where he's is the main character. My idea is that it would be like a blend between the previous Halo Games and the 2018 God of War game along with a few things.
1. it would be an Open-World where you can travel to different planets, command armies/fleets and battle enemies such as the Flood and The Banished.
2. Like 2018 God of War, you can upgrade and customize with new armor sets and weapons throughout your journey.
3. You can play the Campaign in either Single or Co-Op like in the previous Halo Games.
4. You'll also be able to switch weapons from 1st Person/Shooter to 3rd Person/Melee.
Same with master chief
How about 8k graphics and VR while you’re at it. There’s a reason games that ambitious don’t exist. They’re impossible to make.
that concept would be neat, would work well as a hypothetical halo wars 3
@@davidbarker3374 I mean it's not THAT ambitious of an idea. Most of it already exists in Halo Infinite, just add weapon/armor upgrades and more of an emphasis on AI allies.
Infinite already does the Open World formula well enough as a first attempt so it's not like, too much of a change except maybe more environments.
Spartans are the star of the show ultimately. It would however, be possible to have gameplay where you either play as master chief or the arbiter. Maybe have a half spartan and half elite campaign were both perspectives of the story are shown kinda like halo 2 OR you get to pick which race you want to pick at the start and you play an entire campaign as one of the two races.
What made the last cutscene annoying for me was that it was Halsey that said the final line, not The Arbiter. Like, I get it for story reasons, but The Arbiter saying something to Chief instead would, in my opinion, been more effective.
If chief said something to Halsey or even had some extra cutscenes of them interacting chief Halsey and arbiter been probably the best cutscene in the whole game
@@ThelRiSycusee I would have loved Halsey to say "You look nice" and the Chief just replies "Thanks"
Arbiter should have said: "Were it not so easy."
We need more Arbiter in the Halo Games
Halo infinite should of had him helping fight the Banished
agreed, i wish we could see more of him and chief in game rather than books
Well, as far as i know Arbiter didn't appear in Halo Infinite, but maaybe a DLC including more content could make him show, maybe a Sword's of Sangheilos group/fleet arrives to Zeta Halo to rescue the remaining forces of the UNSC or something like that. Or better, in the next main Halo game have a co op campaing with arbiter as active character like Halo 3, or a Spin Off of Arbiter during the story of Infinite. I dunno there are a lot of options
While the Arbiter wasn't in Infinite, a few days ago a new book was announced to be coming out called Halo: Outcasts and it features the Arbiter and Olympia Vale from Fireteam Osiris going to the planet Netherop in search of an artifact that supposedly can help to defeat Cortana while an outside force manipulates them. I'm guessing that that's Nizat 'Kvarosee and I'm hoping that it FINALLY brings an end to his character.
The fact that a character so great as the arbiter was only featured for 4 1/2 minutes of cut screen time is insulting to the character. Halo 5 was upsetting.
Without a doubt, Arbiter’s bits were the best thing about 5.
Even with all of the redesigns that 343 did, Arbiter looks like a warrior king and I love it more than his original (but that’s just me) to Andromeda and back.
His armor is really well made. It is practical while it is still very obvious to everyone that he is the Arbiter.
They tried making him worse but instead he looks like a spartan king as a sangheli
2:25 never noticed that vale sound
I hate how all the elites are hunched over
They’re a different race, kinda like Africans, Asians, philippine, ect. If you played all the halos reach, 1-3, 2 anniversary, and 4-5 you can tell subtle to obvious differences. Even in the halo legends there’s another race
@@jakobthepeacekeeperlaviera6271
Then how could the Arbiter have different anatomy than before???
The retconed designs made no sense...
@@user-iy7jo7bq4f The reason Arbiter and the Swords of Sanghelios looked like the other race was because modelling an entirely new set of models for Elites would be incredibly time-consuming and resource-intensive.
The Elites pretty much change their anatomy every game anyway, this was just the first time it's noticeable.
@@tTaseric
"Time consuming..."
A bad excuse...
"Noticeable..."
Like so blatant that it broke the suspension of disbelief...
It's a terrible choice through and through.
@@jakobthepeacekeeperlaviera6271
And Asians and Africans do look like being parts of the same species.
Hate the fact that Arbiter looks like 343 elite instead of his old design. Love the fact that he's in the game
But he's not really the arbiter anymore so why keep the old armor. He's like a world leader now
Arbiter looks like a one man army and a badass king, hes like king Arthur but with a badass energy sword and badass kaiden armor.
Voice actor for the Arbiter is getting old. They better make an Arbiter game before he passes on.
Yee
He's only 65 dude. He'll outlast the halo franchise.
@@HartyBiker 65 is getting up there considering these games take about 4-5 years to make. If they started today he would be 70 by the time of release so that is my point. They better get on it.
@@HartyBiker Acting like he couldn't suddenly pass away due to certain issues or an accident...
@@Complexity-lq9fp yeah but you could say that if he was 25 as well so that point is kind of moot
I love that the Arbiter on the first meeting basically said "Yeah cut your formal bullshit, we both know you're not here because you like me so much."
He smells ONI a mile ahead.
Too bad they cut the conversation right when it starts to get interesting. God forbid Locke has some actual character development.
@@Aredel To be fair though, MC didn't have much of a character in his first game either. Then again, that was a whole different era of gaming when games were much less story-driven.
@@Mediados The games still had established characters that developed over the course of the series. Arbiter was the biggest among them. Chief, as Joe Staton said, was mainly a vessel for the player to experience the story.
That still doesn't excuse that they cut what could have been an epic revelation just to hamfistedly advance the plot.
Be pretty cool if halo infinite got a dlc for campaign where we play as arbiter i love the big guy
It would be interesting if 343 makes a dlc telling the story of Arbiter and his forces during the campaign of Halo Infinite, as a paralel story of the main game. Or, maybe a story after the campaign where Arbiter and his forces, or maybe a mixed UNSC-Swrods of Sanghelios group with arbiter in charge arrives to rescue chief and the remaining forces
There is concept art of halo infinite where the Arbiter appear with a fussion of the Halo 2 anniversary armor and the halo 5 armor and a red cape with the logo of the Sanghelios Swords in somekind of dessert and i would kill just to see that concept in a videogame
Man they really squandered the story potential in this game. How did no one during the design process of the final cutscene go "Hey remember how people really like the idea of chief and arby being buddies? How about instead of being lazy and lame we actually give Arbiter some lines where he acknowledges that he is glad that one of his closest allies during the end of the Covenant war is actually alive?"
Honestly the story would have been better if they just paid some deep lore fans to write the damn thing lol. The Chief VS Locke fight scene was also one of the game's biggest story blunders. Its like two potato sacks smacking each other around.
If you were actually a 'deep lore fan' you'd know Halsey deserved the moment more than Arbiter. An Arbiter / Chief reunion would have been incredibly surface-level fanservice. I would have liked an after-credits scene with them.
This is the first time Chief and Halsey have seen each other since First Strike, Halsey thought he was dead most of that time. Also, Arbiter did have some lines where he acknowledged Chief and their partnership, but they were in-game lines rather than cutscenes.
If you actually believe the sentiment of "343 are lazy, they should hire some REAL fans" then you're either an idiot or a child.
@@tTaseric Yeah well surface level fan service isn't a bad thing if you do it sparingly. You need to chill out my dude. Maybe the deep lore entitles Halsey to a moment with chief and I know that but people are more familiar with Arby so having a scene with them and not having them exchange at least some lines once they're finally face to face is a huge missed opportunity. I don't think 343 are actually lazy. I think they didn't know what they were doing and their focus was in the completely wrong direction.
I know Halo 5 isn’t the best game, but I’m loving Arbiter in this.
He’s so cool.
Arbiters lines are so cold
I love the last line when he says HUNT THEM TO THE LAST, today we extinguish the covenants light FOREVER
it is a crime that we never got to see halo 6. such a beautiful setup with osiris, blue team, John and thel+the swords of sanhelios VS cortana and the created. dont get me wrong i love infinites story, but infinite is a halo 7 or 8, there is SO MUCH story there that had a perfect cliffhangar. not to mention guilty spark in the legendary ending
Man I love the Arbiter. Such a f*(#@(# badass character. I was one of those who's always been a fan of his
I love how they tried to hide arbiters appearance as much as possible so he doesn’t look to different.
I hate that in the halo 2 anniversary opening halo 5 cut scene, the arbiter and elites have a classic design, but in the real game they look like the storm covenant elites
Dude fr gets me mad cause the halo 2 one looks so good and then we get to the halo 5 one which is like wait how did Arbiter just change form. I just pray that in Halo Infinite if Arbiter pops up he looks like his old self.
@@theshipmasterbanished3902 there were art style inconsistencies between the two, because Halo 2 cinematics were handled by outsource studio Blurr, and were meant to be consistent with the art style of Halo 2, while Halo 5 already was all knees deep within the new 343 art style and combining them would probably feel even more odd to an eye. 343 mishandled the art direction utterly with Halo 4 and 5, not because of the art style itself, but because of it's aggresive and not thought out implementation. If Chief for instance started with og Mark VI armor on Forward Unto Dawn, and later on got the new armor and were it more in the future when the UNSC had time to adapt new armor looks and generally new technologies, it would be much more acceptable, it would feel like evolution of what came before and not utter upside down of it just for the sake of having their own style.
Guitar Australian didgeridoo theme no one mentioned how awesome the background music was.......
My man’s got a worse hunchback
in a way it is kinda emotional, like yeah its missing alot such as the arby and chief interaction but cathy seeing basically her son again after all this time is really nice... its grown on me since the first i saw it years ago...
Kieths voice is god tier
I would love a MGR style game with The Arbiter
RULES OF SANGHELIOS as arbiter runs into a covenant ship and slices it in half
@@thecommunistloli1042 throws a scarab into a sky, jumps onto it & starts slicing across it
@@antthefool7637
RULES OF SANGHELIOS
AND THE BANISHED RUN WHEN THE SUN COMES OUT
WITH THEIR LIVES ON THE LINE
ALIIIVEEEEE!!!
@@thecommunistloli1042 i will totally scream if i see that, it would be totally badass seeing Arbiter with a MGR style with Rules of Nature playing un the background while running agaisnt a Banished Scarab and cut it in half with he's energy Sword
I just want to see MC and Arbiter destroy a flood ship and say
MC: Just like old times
Arbiter: Indeed, brings back memories
And in the foreground, John and Arbiter, back to back, Arbiter with his energy sword, John with his assault rifle, like in Halo 3 after killing Truth
Man... He should have at least appeared in halo infinite multiplayer
The arbiter looked like he was going to shed a tear.
Elites used to stand tall and pround, 343 was like, NO, they are hunchbacks now.
Wait aren't only arbiters trained to use energy swords left handed? At 3:52 there's a basic elite using the sword left handed
Thats nothing to do with it, they are literally just left handed
God these elites look so clunky I want elegant, smooth arbiter back.
its like he gave up just so he could have another shot at getting killionaire again before the game ends from him wiping the floor
Bungie should make another back to back scene with chief and arbiter in halo infinite
Halo 5 and Halo Infinite are made by 343, not Bungie.
Judging by the state of Destiny, we don't want Bungie to touch Halo with a 10 foot pole.
Arby looks like he’s always the biggest elite in the gym
I wonder if Arbiter gambled to delay the attack so Chief can do whatever he was doing before Locked got to him.
That’s actually quite a good theory he also did question why Locke wanted to go at him in the anniversary cinematic of halo 2 anniversary that’s actually really quite interesting
I never really liked Halsey as a character but that final line of dialogue at the end from her put the nail in the coffin. She's like, "It took you long enough" and Chief is like "Yeah sorry for trying to track down and destroy the one thing that could put us all 6 feet under while also fighting through waves of Covenant and Prometheans"
I think it was supposed to be a reference to her telling the same thing to Locke at the beginning of the game.
Arbi is just badass if we see arbi again in the next halo end they both kickass in the next game, I'm gonna cry. Most likely he's gonna die for dramatic effect (mostly happens to the characters that had lived a long time such as Sgt Johnson) but still. Would be pretty sick
Why do the Elites measure time in seconds?
Why does the energy sword make that sound
why wouldnt it
@@massid3774 i dunno bro it just sounds weird maybe im lame but i rlly like the reach energy sword sound effect
The arbiters that bad ass he don’t even say were it so easy
Every part of Sanghelios is the best part of Halo 5.
4:17 image if it ended where chief punched locked into the wall
I was always surprised that the arbiter didn't have a line at the end like the demon lives or something
I think they made the elites seem too...heavy, I always imagined them as strong, tall, and swift, kinda like a linebacker. Solid, but still fast and agile, but they bulked them up too much. I mean it's like you can feel how heavy and slow they are.
Heavy, yes, but not slow. I mean you have to imagine that they are basically a tower of muscle and sinew, it makes sense that they have some weight in their step.
They certainly have weight, but they aren’t clumsy, stumbling fools who have to throw their weight forwards with each step. These fuckers can sprint up to 35mph.
@@Mediados Yeah, but they also use camo right? So they should be able to move quietly. That's why I like the Reach designs, you can see that height and power, but they look more swift. These designs were just too heavy for me, its was as they made them more like Brutes to make up for the fact that there were little to no brutes
@@halo_girl_2434 yeah like idk why 343 has such a problem with keeping the old elite design
"The spies announce themselves now?" Damnnnnn
Arbiter...😍😍😍
They’re both the GOATs
Imagine playing an entire game dedicated solely on the Elite side, it should be called "Holy Relic" and it should focus on the life of the Arbiter, his rise and fall from the ranks, the 1st encounter with Spartan 117 and and.... there is so much writing potential here! Microsoft.... please make this one for the fans!
Well that's kinda of halo 2. As in CE he was just on a ship making commands.
But something after 3 would be cool
Would've killed to see Arbiter and Chief interact in Halo 5...
While the Arbiter wasn't in Infinite, a few days ago a new book was announced to be coming out called Halo: Outcasts and it features the Arbiter and Olympia Vale from Fireteam Osiris going to the planet Netherop in search of an artifact that supposedly can help to defeat Cortana while an outside force manipulates them. I'm guessing that that's Nizat 'Kvarosee and I'm hoping that it FINALLY brings an end to his character.
Hope we can see The Arbiter again in a DLC for Halo Infinite campaign.
Damn Palmer’s armor looks like it was thrown into a shredder. I fr know how tough she is to that battle on Sanghilios must’ve been brutal now that I think about it.
Can't believe they brought back the arbiter this damn game instead of Infinite
Thel 'Vadam is my favorite character in halo.
He is made up of about 65% badass, 40% leadership,
50% Pure Chadasauras 45% Our Boi.
Chief came back for the arbiter, his bro
i honestly didn't like how the Arbitar didnt say something like, "By the sangheli.." When he say Chief, because they we're close.
Arbiter pretty much took the spotlight from Locke the whole 2 missions
Locke was never in it
Technically 5 missions, 3 if you don't count the weird talking ones.
Wished they added ship master also in halo 5 fighting alongside Arbiter
Man Buck, Arbiter and the story are the only reason I played this halo
The old Browncoat sure gets around. Shiny! :D
They really missed the chance to have a “Chief, you son of a bitch.” Moment.
The elites looked so much more elegant and refined in the original trilogy. Now they're all hunched over like cavemen and walk like tommy pickles
Jesus the arbiter is cool, his voice actor is literally amazing
"we get through this I'll buy the whole damn bar" -Buck
Even when the elites like the Arbiter are your allies they still feel intimidating.
I still can’t believe that Buck is still here. From ODST to Spartan
To be honest i kind of wanted halsey to hug chief since she sounded motherly when she told locke to bring chief back